Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat (Musical Hell #92)
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Sometimes you get a Prince of Egypt, and sometimes you get this.
at least its not joseph king of dreams which tried so hard to be prince of egypt
Christian Calabrese At least JKoD was well done. Nowhere near the scope or star power of PoE, but the story of Exodus and Passover are far more significant.
@@christiancalabrese4923 In fairness, King Of Dreams was meant to be a prequel of-sorts to The Prince of Egypt, so trying to recapture the same feeling isn't entirely unjustified.
You see, Christians, if you gave us more Prince of Egypt and less God's Not Dead, then maybe you could start building back your good will.
@@KrazyKelor And the songs JKoD were amazing.
This production: [includes many scenes and gags of performers groping each other and gratuitous sexy dance numbers]
Also this production: [is touted as being performed at a school assembly in front of a bunch of children]
Someone didn't think that framing device through, methinks...
Performed at a school assembly by a cast who are implied to be the teachers O_O
Those egyptian butts "covered" with nothing but golden net might be historically accurate but not really family friendly:-)
Yeah I picked up on that too. Why do they always include sexy displays in bible based media? Heston as Jesus was a bad example of that as well.
WHY do they insist on these framing devices? Another bad example is "The Pirate Movie" - good God, just start the damned musical, quit trying to ground it or make it relate to a modern context - it never works anyway and people like us will just complain about the unnecessary framing device!
@@jdraven0890 Do you dislike The Wizard of Oz? You would be one of the few who did, as almost everyp- everybody praises that film to no end, even though the doppelgangers serve little purpose, and draw attention to how two of the three companions are poorly handled for what they are trying to represent and overcome, especially when the "real" people early on do it better. This is one case where I go against popular opinion and think the novel and stage musicals are better.
Plus this whole coma fever dream thing undercuts the fantastical elements in a manner that hasn't aged well at all, and subsequent versions of the tale and the original didn't have that problem.
"The 4th wall gets broken so much, it could do stunt work for a Kool-Aid commercial" is such a great line.
Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat may be hot garbage, but it's my hot garbage.
So true!
Hannah Brennan I agree!
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Hannah Brennan disagree forever. I love this show and all the songs! I have enjoyed every production I have seen so far, local and touring!
One thing I will say for this show so far, in the Bible Joseph really WAS a bit oblivious to his brothers’ anger and plight. And he ACTUALLY DID tell them about his dream that HED be successful and THEY wouldn’t as if it was a good thing. He.... wasn’t exactly the brightest of the bunch and was genuinely surprised when they beat him and sold him into slavery because they were sick of his crap and the way their dad blatantly favored him. In hindsight, a lot of people in the Bible were kinda like that. It made a lot more sense when I was a kid
Joseph King of Dreams actually sells that conflict quite well, humanizing the brothers and their indignation, while also showing that Jacob’s favor made Joseph arrogant. He suffers a heavy fall as a result and gets a little vindictive about it. The main theme there is forgiveness, which I’m not always wild about in fiction (or RL).
Emeree Stacy
Yeah, that’s a good point. And a good summary of the character lol
Joseph: the first "himbo". :P
Which if you think about it most of DreamWorks 2D movies were about pretty selfish himbos getting their ass kicked into accepting responsibility and ethics. XD
He was bright and talented, just kind of self-absorbed and vain. But the brothers did something terrible in response. The drama is how both sides needed to learn how to repair their errors.
But musical hell! His coat was red and yellow and green and brown and scarlet and black and ochre and peach and ruby and olive and violet and fawn and lilac and gold and chocolate and mauve and cream and crimson and silver and rose and azure and lemon and russet and grey and purple and white and pink and orange and blue!
That's not even right spectrum, and I'm pretty sure some those are just same colors but with different names
It was a hell of a coat!
Its a joke from the simpsons.
@@tristanhartup4936 Sort of; they're all different shades of colors. Crimson and scarlet are both reds, but they're different shades of red. Scarlet is a bright orange-red, while crimson is a deep middle red. Red on its own usually means a bright middle red. And who says lists of colors always need to be in rainbow order?
But what about teal?
Random thought, but I'd like to see Diva tackle a couple of the Barbie musicals, like Princess and the Pauper or Island Princess. I think P&P would especially surprise her at how, despite the weirdness of early 2000's CGI, it's a really solid film, both story and songs-wise! (Maybe for her 100th episode?)
D.J. Rose yes!
Yeeeeeees
As a kid I hated Barbie, and I remember that I especially hated that the Princess and the Pauper was pretty decent and enjoyable.
Nonono, how about cats for episode 100
That's a good idea.
Calling it now: Musical Hell #100 is gonna be Cats 2019.
Yes, I agree, that would be a TRULY memorable case to mark the 100th review!👍😍
its best to watch that one with your ears only
Wish it could be #666 but I’m not complaining.
I’m hoping for Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark for 100. Or just any review.
I mean, it’s the perfect time to discuss it; that or an anniversary special and/or crossover, whichever comes first.
When talking Vegetables telling a western take the source material more seriously...
The Ballad of Little Joe-up top! :)
Funnily enough, my brothers were in a church performance of this show two or three years back (not at our church) and the entire thing was Wild West themed. I still wish I had gotten to see it, even the photos were amazing.
Hey, the _Veggietales_ writers know their shit, and what they know how to do is to make stories relatable and _funny._
@@SobiTheRobot YES AGREED
The narrator looks like she is in a veggie movie already…
This feels like a movie parents would show their kids because they think _The Prince Of Egypt_ would give them nightmares.
NOT PLAYING WITH THE BIG BOYS NOW
Those parents are way too scared to teach their children about life and think they are stupid
My mom let me watch The Prince of Egypt when I was 6, and I never got any nightmares out of that movie.
Ironically, this musical is what gave me nightmares
Eurgh...I’d take a chance with potential nightmares. I knew the Bible was full of nightmarish stuff from Sunday School. Better than than being talked down to.
i was in a production of this is 6th grade and here’s some highlights:
-we triple-casted the narrator because the director had 3 favorites and couldn’t pick one
-our “children’s chorus” was told to sing like children but it just came off as EXTREMELY loud and annoying
-our joseph didn’t have a single bit of the vocal range needed and had voice cracks CONSTANTLY
-literally no one in the cast enjoyed it. like we were all bored because we were each in 1 song. that’s about it. the poor dancer’s whose main role was the corn of joseph’s dreams 😭
-the colorful coat was UGLY but i think every amateur production’s coat is too so it’s all good
-there wasnt a single wife that could sing 😔
-potiphar’s dancers were all wearing sunglasses that reflected the stage lights and made it EXTREMELY difficult to see. multiple dancers hit each other and my sunglasses fell off during a show
-i was in go go joseph for 2 seconds and it was to do a cartwheel into the splits that i failed to get out of a couple times 😔😔😔
-both our pharaoh and mrs. potiphar were assholes to everyone else in the cast
-our pharaoh couldn’t sing in the elvis voice but tried anyway so no one in the audience could tell what he was saying
-we watched this version in choir before auditions and there was a lot of scenes that the teacher skipped over and said “don’t worry we won’t be doing that”
-“Who’s The Thief” was HORRIBLE. Every student in a chorus of 200 6-8th graders was told to sing the highest notes they could. You can imagine the rest.
-one of the brother’s was stalked by a group of younger girls who would knock on his dressing room door so he would come out shirtless in the process of changing
Oh my.
That’s completely insane but I’ve been in a production of this show for over 18 months now because the pandemic broke out the week before we preformed.
Lemme guess for that second-to-last one: a lot of REEEEEEEEEEEE noises? XD
Sounds like your school should’ve done _Noises Off._
In my school's production, I played one of the brothers, and we ended up cutting both the Potiphar scene and the baker/butler scene from the production.
The thing about Joseph in the actual Genesis story? He was a /teenager/ at the start. So, his attitudes and obliviousness towards his other unhappy brothers make a lot of sense when you remember he was a teenage boy. A spoiled teenage boy.
I do feel like that aspect is often lost on a lot of people.
Should've got Zac Efron to play Joseph.
@@ching-jungyang62 Efron would’ve been 12 when this movie came out so probably not
That edit-cut you pointed out about the sold-into-slavery part. Oh. My. Ghod. My jaw dropped at that. Excellent job there, editing director! Excellent!
It’s disappointing too because the story of Jospeh and his brothers is probably one of the most emotionally nuanced in the Bible. It’s not a black-and-white struggle between the wicked and the righteous; it’s the tale of a loving but flawed family who tear themselves apart, and after years of struggle are finally able to reconcile and forgive each other. It also features an early example of positive dealings between the Hebrews and a pagan culture, which is pretty uncommon in the Old Testament. If handled well This could have been a really powerful musical, instead it’s an obvious garish campfest that values style over substance. If you want to see a marginally better take on this story I’d recommend the animated Dreamworks short.
"Animated Dreamworks short"? You're talking about Joseph: King of Dreams? It's not a short, it's a feature-length movie. And I agree with everything else you said.
"that values style over substance." Well, Diva said the same thing about Phantom of the Opera, so I think that we can safely assume that Andrew Lloyd Webber tends to be like that in at least some of his musicals.
When I was six years old, my mother got this for me on VHS to prepare me for a trip we were taking to London, with the plan of seeing _Joseph_ on the West End. I remember almost nothing aside from the fact that we had a decent understudy on for Joseph, and that I complained because "it wasn't like the movie." Oh, what a sweet summer child I was.
Not only was Pharoah basically being Elvis a way to show he's the king, but Memphis Tennessee is a part of a region in Tennessee known as Little Egypt for all the towns and cities named after Egyptian cities, and of course Memphis Tennessee was also Elvis's home.
The 90s businesswoman is the most distracting thing in this show, especially because she keeps *staring* at me. Her obviously mismatched costume is all I can look at, it drives me mad. Why couldn't they at least dress her up in a robe so she doesn't clash with the cast?
Production I saw kinda had the same wardrobe for the Narrator, but thankfully theirs had a strong voice
She was honestly the worst part for me because instead of letting the other characters sing the story themselves or just occasionally chiming in (like any good narrator), she takes over the whole show to the point of distraction. At least Antonio Banderas’s character in Evita Peron tend to try to blend in with the background characters.
She’s supposed to be like a teacher! When I played her, my approach was inspired by Jodi Benson when she did Guidepost Junction.
i know, why is she wearing an attention-grabbing jacket when that's the point of the main character? her hair and make up is awful too.
I describe this as Broadway does Vegas. It’s a silly, fluffy, show with pastiche musical numbers. I had to watch this in school because it fit within our semester.
I watched it in Junior School (UK) thanks to Choir.
Me too, I watched it as part of my music class in school! 🎶🎹🎻🎷
This one's a bit traumatic for me because I saw this when I had just turned 13 and was publicly humiliated by Elvis/Pharaoh. He came up to me at the side of the aisle 'how you doin,' baby?" and then asked me to rub his back. Obviously I was shocked and just stared. It was mortifying! Then he asked me to say my name, which is kind of long, so I mumbled it. And then imitated me, mocking me in front of the whole audience and they laughed. My mom brushed it off 'he thought you were older." I did look older but there is no way I could be taken as obviously over 18.
Jesus, that's pretty fucked up. I don't really see a way in which "he thought you were older" even looks vaguely like it makes that okay; I'd be completely stunned at being mocked by a performer in front of a crowd at *25*. That's really the kind of thing where, if you felt like it you could probably find the name of performer, name and shame the asshole today, and it would still be pretty bad for him.
Really, movie? You HAD to cut to the black children singing during the number about the main character being sold into slavery?
Ew
yeah that was both cheap in every sense of the word I honestly think one guy added that when no one was looking
I like to think the kid at 7:15 is shaking her head because even she can't believe what a terrible idea this was.
@@superfanmusicmaker I never noticed that as a kid and...yikes.
Me: (noticing it as a kid) Aw, that's sad.
Me: (noticing it as an adult) Really?
So this public speaker described a woman trying to force herself on a man to a bunch of children.
...I guess if it's in the Bible, it's fine for children?
Why does this play have a framing device again?
@@timothymclean It's a better framing device than the movie version of Jesus Christ Superstar. I'm still not exactly sure what was going on in the background narrative. A troupe of traveling actors was putting on the story of Christ...for who, exactly? They seriously nailed a live man to a cross and left him to die? And why are the Roman soldiers using machine guns?
@@robertofenloch9595 I might be able to see the last one, if there's a consistent design choice to blend Roman and modern aesthetics...but it's also the kind of thing that's easy to do hilariously.
Another Weber movie to look forward to, I guess. Has there ever been an adaptation of a Weber musical that doesn't deserve a place in this court?
Were those skimpy costumes part of the school part of that school production too?
😳
@@robertofenloch9595 And (like I always say about this show) If you're gonna do the story of Jesus WHY DIDN;T YOU DO THE RESURRECTION?! I mean, that's THE main event of Jesus's life! THAT'S why he went through the Crucifixion in the first place!
"Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat" isn't everyone's cup of tea. I've always loved it because I grew up with the movie and even sang in the children's chorus for a touring production many years ago. The musicals strengths lie in its use of various musical styles, Donny Osmond's singing and great dance numbers.
I agree. This is one of my favourites from Webber tbh.
Lorz L mine too
Joseph and Jesus Christ Superstar are my favorites of his. They're both so much better than much of his later work.
The blends of music in this show are incredible with country, 50s rock, French music, folk, reggae, etc.
And the fact that all the songs are so damn catchy. I mean, how many people wouldn't leave the theatre humming at least one of these songs? And after listening to the soundtrack twice (my stepkid was obsessed with this musical as a young 'un and wouldn't get in the car for visitation unless we were playing the CD), I couldn't get many of these songs out of my head.
I grew up in Salt Lake City where there's kind of a cult-like worship of Donny Osmond and/or this show, so this was really cathartic.
I went to a Catholic grade school and we had to watch this one day. And now I have that "Jacob and Sons" song stuck in my head all over again...
Buddy if you wanna wash it out i have many good choices, like the red-wall animated series opening or Babar.(who knows maybe little bear)
Imagine being named Jacob and going to catholic school. I never heard the end of it
I remember watching this huddled with other kids around a small computer in the basement my synagogue for Hebrew school. Good times
I went to Catholic schools too. We watched this in 6th and 10th grade.
@@Newt5996 Well, that makes TWO of us, Buddy!
Donnie Osmond's voice is just so pure and nice to listen to. And I appreciate that everyone who participated gave it their all, even for a kids show.
My community theater has put on Joseph as its Christmas play for about 20 years. They get various school choirs to do be part of the play, a different one for each show, and it's a fun time for all the kids. I don't know what will happen this year. The theater is shut down, they have laid off staff and who knows if they will be open for Christmas.
This isn't a great show, by any means, but it does hold a place in my heart as one of the plays that helped introduce my daughter to musical theater many years ago.
Oh it WILL be open for Christmas, we HAVE to have beaten this thing by THEN!!!
I've got a similar story! Some people in a local church production performed the show and I was like six when I saw it. I loved it so much, and still get enjoyment out of some of the more dramatic musical numbers to this show on its soundtrack.
OK, so I was off by a year, sue me.
Eh, still better than that Ten Commandments musical...
Tommy Deonauth's Archives So, the biblical musicals in order would go something like; Children of Eden, Joseph, Prince of Egypt, Godspell and Jesus Christ Superstar.
Yea We can Have fun with JOE.
Even funnier when you realize "Joseph" is a prequel to "Prince of Egypt" !
DON'T YOU BE DISSING THE PRINCE OF EGYPT, THAT MOVIE IS A CLASSIC
*CLOSE EVERY DOOR TO ME*
*KEEP THOSE I LOVE FROM ME*
Those lyrics are a huge mood right now.
Heh, my reaction to the Pharoah bit went a little like this:
Why are there neon musical notes behind him?
Why does...he have...sideburns...?
(Lifts headdress)
...SOMEONE SAVE ME!
Ultimately I fell in love with the sequence just because of how out of left damn field it went! XD (Also, I love the Narrator.)
"Sold to be a slave!" Cuts to black Children. WOW.
That had to be an accident.
“It’s hard to like Donny Osmond’s Joseph...” Except that he was selected for this because audiences adored him in this role. Hence why he played Joseph for years.
That's not her point. Also, I can't believe this video is gonna add fuel to Johnny Bravo's hate to Donny Osmond.
I'm surprised to see this here. I'm not angry, just surprised.
Cute Cobra I’m not lol
I never knew they made a made-for-tv movie based on the Broadway show.
colleen I think it was actually made to be sold on video.
When I watched it a few weeks ago I realised I'd forgotten how insane it was since they showed it to us in primary school
I'm mostly just disappointed. The version that was put on video has so much wrong with it that it could have really been mercilessly dismantled, but all we got was that Diva neither cares for the pastiche concept nor understands that productions of the material used to be significantly more grounded than they were in the 90s.
omg this movie is so good! the hamminess, the multiple song genres, the costuming, the colors- it's all just perfect!
Any weaknesses in Donny Osmond's acting are made up for by the fact that he's an Absolute Babe
I feel like this is a musical that is mostly beloved because of personal attachment. One of my best friends loves it because she watched it as a kid, and I in turn like it because I watched it with her in college. There's a comfortable nostalgia to it that I can't really place to any other show
Pretty much. I'd probably recommend this musical to only kids and not adults.
I had not watched this show since I was a kid (nearly twenty years ago now) when I was obsessed with it and could sing the whole musical. I just watched it again for the first time since then.
I. Can still. Sing. THE WHOLE SHOW. FROM MEMORY!
I’m not sure wether to be proud or terrified
Y'know, Diva, as much as I enjoyed your skewering of Joseph/Dreamcoat, I think I would like this show! We do need a little whipped cream every now and then.
BTW, the incident with Potiphar's Wife proves that sexual harassment on the job is as old as the Bible
Veggietales' version of this Bible story is better.
Little JOOOOEE oh little JOOOOOOEE
LITTLE JOE LITTLE JOE TAKE A BOW
LoOk I mAdE a fRoStiNG cOw
Agreed, even "Veggietales" and "Hi-Tops" were less preachy in comparison!
Ah yes, "The Ballad of Little Joe"
@@trinaq veggietales isn't even preachy than you expect.
The fourth wall gets broken so much is an absolutely brilliant joke.
It may be silly but this show holds a special place in my heart because it was the very first stage show I was involved in when my school adapted it. It gave me a deep love for musical theater and now, ten years later, I'm a backstage manager for what may be our director's last show. Sometimes a little (or a lot) of camp is just what you need.
Is it just me, or is the staging at the end of Pharaoh's Dream remarkably similar to the end of The Rum Tum Tugger? Both having the guy waving his crotch around the girls and the girls going wild. Weird.
I don't know, ask Lloyd Webber, he is the master mind! XD
I know he’s stylized as Elvis, but Pharaoh gives me Joey Richter vibes.
@@bonzupippinpaddleoxacoppil484 Trail To Oregon Joey Richter or Ron Weasley Joey Richter?
This musical is one of my guilty pleasures. It certainly has its flaws but it also has a lot of fun music and colorful effects. Even though I generally enjoy stories with well developed plot points and interesting characters, I have to admit that it’s sometimes good to have something that’s just fun.
Avalasia Love same. It’s enjoyable for what it is but it’s definitely not going to fundamentally change your outlook on things in a profound way. Beyond that, the songs are super catchy and it is a natural fit for community/children’s theater, so...there’s a reason it’s popular. Also, Not a huge fan of the film, but I do like Osmond’s voice. And if you want a different perspective of the musical, there are languages in other versions (at least German and Dutch).
Calling it now- Cats is going to be episode 100
... “Joseph: King of Dreams” is a more dignified adaptation than this, and that movie was was a direct-to-DVD Dreamworks cheesefest.
TBF this one is also a direct to video cheesefest
Short version: Go watch Joseph King of Dreams instead!
Joseph is the musical that made me realize I wanted to do theater, and was either the first or second musical I remember seeing, so it will always have a special place in my heart. But I totally get that it is a silly fluff show with a musical style that is definitely not for everyone. But personally I love it.
Every character in this musical is a terrible person, and I LOVE it.
I unironically love this musical. I grew up on this, mostly because my mom has a massive celebrity crush on Donny Osmond, lol.
Everyone's moms did.
17:47; I’ve been waiting for Diva’s take on The Thief and The Cobbler!
I expect a lot of Pot Shots at Miramax....
Finally! Now I'll be able to watch a non Nostalgia Critic review of it.
I can't wait for her to drag the princess's "empowerment anthem" through the pits.
Me too, me too! Ever since Nostalgia Critic did his take on it.
Sigh - must you tease us with the possibility of a “Cats” review? I’ve been waiting on you to tear it apart since it premiered, Diva!
@Rebecca Woolf I would like to see it as a crossover with Media Hunter.
This was my childhood and what first got me interested in acting!!
I would stand in my room and act out the scene and lines of the narrator as if I was her!
How the hell are there comments from 3 days ago????
It was probably commented from Diva's Paetron page. 😊
I'm 27 and I still do this. But also YES Joseph is still and probably eternally will be my #1 favorite musical. :D
To be fair, "Any Dream Will Do" is a great song. (At least the Broadway version.)
The broadway soundtrack is actually great!
I like that song too.
Can't wait for Hollywood to turn this into a nightmare like they did CATS.
I'd see it, actually. I love Bible movies.
This time around, they'll motion-capture humans and superimpose cat faces into the bodies!
Hollywood doesn't seem to do good with silverware Source material. In this particular play is nothing but
Don't give them any ideas!
I doubt there’d be another Cats level disaster again, but The Phantom of the Opera didn’t work, so I don’t have hopes for this one either.
Let’s Get Down To Business
To Defeat The Drought
This was my childhood. I will forever love this musical and it was my gateway that changed my life. I am always a fan of your reviews and this is one I love none the less.
Give me my colored coat! My amazing Colored coattttt
Even as a kid, I questioned why Benjamin was in the scenes in the first act. In the bible when all of this was going down, he was just a baby for most of the first act. Why is he twirling the coat and making faces at the camera? He shouldn't even be there yet lol.
Also, where the hell is Dinah and why does everyone ignore/forget her?? Jacob did not have an even dozen of offspring, he had a baker’s dozen. This really bugs the hell out of me
An Elvis Presley Impersonating Pharaoh is something I never knew I wanted to see XDXDXDXDXD
I remember watching the seduction scene with Pontifer’s wife as a kid. Looking back as an adult, pretty sure it made me bi.
It’s always a good day when Diva uploads.
Best way to begin a new month!
Re: Joseph being well-liked everywhere he goes
Just gonna do an Islam plug: Joseph (Yusuf) is talked about a lot in the Qur'an and one thing the text and all the commentaries drive home is that he is so impossibly good-looking and an absolute stud. So maybe that's a valid explanation.
Yusuf ibn Yaqub ibn Yishaq ibn Ibrahim ibn Azar, if I remember correctly.
the fact that they cut to the two black girls during the slave line i-
This and Superstar were my first musicals at four years old. My dad loved to watch them around Easter with me and my siblings. So this holds a special place in my heart for nostalgia.
The trouble with this show is that the brothers' decision should probably not be entirely understandable. If I had to put up with Donnie Osmond's smug, insufferable Joseph all the time I'd contemplate drastic action too!
The irony is that the Biblical Joseph was a studly asshole too because of his dad and the coat thing, so they nailed that...but made the brothers completely sympathetic.
@@eatatjoes6751 Trying to KILL your own brother?! Eeehhhh.......
@@colleen4ever No, not in the Bible. I'm talkin' here.
Richard Attenborough spared no expense on that coat. I cannot be the only guy to have made that joke.
One More Angel in Heaven is supposed to be insincere and deliberately so bad it's good because it's the brothers saying they'll miss someone they don't. I saw a version where they really played that part up, and even had a hoedown tempo encore to drive home the fact that they're actually happy.
Will u ever give a review on the beetlejuice musical? Not for musical hell, hopefully, but I’d like to kno ur thoughts on it
I'm starting to realize that the Beetlejuice musical is a very "love it or hate it" kind of musical. Count me in the "love it" category. As a person who adores horror-comedies and a spooky aesthetic, its really up my alley.
This 'dreamcoat' has less screen time than I was expecting.
Me: I am a passionate advocate of socially conscious theatre
Also me: *THERE’S ONE MORE ANGEL IN HEAVEN ~ AHHHHHHH~ SORRY DIVA WHAT WAS THAT?!* ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
Not gonna lie, that is the song I remember most fondly from this show, but I saw it in Tennessee where the actors could put genuine twang into the cheese.
I can't wait for Diva to cover the monstority that is "Cats", still the worst Lloyd Weber based production, in my opinion! 🐱😹
I think we can tell already that the 2019 "adaptation" is gonna be a full-blown ten-sinner, no doubt about it.
Trina Q Seriously! Tom hooper said in an interview that he needed to make the show “not fantastical”....like....he just doesn’t get Cats
I concur. I don't even know what the plot of it is, and why it even exists in the first place. But then again, I never really cared for Andrew Lloyd Webber anyway.
@@dorothyallspice1862 The plot is SUPPPOSED to be that once a year the Jellicle Cats meet and compete to see which one the King of Cats- Old Deteronomy (yes the character is supposed to be MALE) - will choose to ascend into Heaven and be reborn into their next life! (cause cats have nine lives) The musical is one by one the cats basically telling Old Deteronomy about themselves and in the end he chooses Grizabella.
The movie on the other hand.......
colleen but even then, the shows not supposed to be plot driven. The plot is just there to tie all the poems together.
I feel like "Tries to have it both ways" is the sin of most movie musicals.
well, since "having it both ways" IS a sin, musical or not...
Honestly, I'm okay with fluffy musicals being secretly dark. I mean "Forum" is about slavery! And has a sex slave dealing scene worthy of the original Pirates of the Caribbean ride! While taking none of it remotely seriously! But I love it anyway!
@@gentlerat That's fair - can we agree that not every property can stick the landing?
My mom is a HUGE fan of Donny Osmond, like, actual fangirl fan, my dad had to ask her to take down his poster when they got married, so I watched this movie WAY too much growing up to the point of memorizing the songs. It's a fun movie, but there's only so much "go, go, go Joseph" a kid can take! D8
Hmmm. Welp, who wants to watch The Ballad of Little Joe?
PS: Middle of elementary school, we went to see this in a high school production, and the poor kid playing Joseph, his voice was breaking at the time, so the singing was husky, to say the least. Given the popularity of this show, I feel really bad for him looking back, because he would have put a hell of a lot of work into it.
I can’t wait for the court case of Cats! About the next one you’re doing, which version are you watching? Supposedly there are at least 3 English dubs.
Miramax cut
@@MusicalHell Good luck.
Musical Hell So the most infamous of the three. It sounds like there will be lots to talk about!
Honesty, I grew up with Joseph. It was one of the firsts shows I watch, and listened to the cassette tape with my grandparents in car rides. So, while I will acknowledge a bit of fluff with the musical here and there, I still have a soft spot for it.
Wow, One More Angel in Heaven is as bad, if not worse than Beneath a Moonless Sky? Glad I never saw this one.
Beneath a Moonless sky feels like it goes on for 10 minutes. The one thing I can say about One More Angel is that at least it's short.
At least Beneath a Moonless Sky is catchy
every time I see the cut at 7:13, I yell out "OH NOOOO" completely reflexively.
The kids' reactions are hilarious. The first one looks like she's too engrossed in the show to realize what the speaker just said, and the second one just shakes her head a little bit like, "Well, they cut to us, so that's at least a second of screentime."
Two problems with this musical. 1, the grain is represented by corn which is a New World crop. 2, it neglects Asenth the Egyptian maiden who becomes Joseph's wife.
The thing I always hated about Joseph (I know, source material) but what kind of logic is it that Joseph forgives his brothers after they defend Benjamin? They always liked Benjamin, and always hated your smug ass. They'd sell you into slavery for a goat again in a second.
Benjamin is the youngest and, in the source material, became dad's new favourite after Joseph's "death". The brothers standing up for him rather than using this as a convenient excuse to ditch him proves that they've reformed.
@@SuperSongbird21 just playing devil's advocate here but I don't think it was the favouritism that the brothers hated but Joseph's dreams. So if Benjamin was the favourite afterwards I don't think it really shows growth from them.
Sad to say, I think you're right in your assessment: "Joseph" is marshmallowy fluff, tasty but substance-less and sickeningly sweet if indulged in too often. I saw it as ALW just playing around with genres of music for his own amusement. The part that annoys me is how not fluffy it could have been. I mean, the whole source material could be the next GoT without the dragons and white walkers if you start from Jacob working in his uncle's fields and include poor Dinah's story.
Exactly like that and it was way before Phantom and Evita which got serious!
My high school did a production of this ( their productions are really professional) and it was so much better
this remains a good show for schools to do. its fun, and its pretty easy in terms of music and staging. But to see adults perform it is just embarrasing.
@@Paul_Ernst Very true
What an appropriately obtuse yet cruel punishment. You are really a master of these!
Yeah, I saw this movie for the first time when ALW streamed it a few weeks ago. I basically enjoyed it, although I totally agree that it's mostly empty fluff. (But fun fluffy is arguably what we need during social isolation...) For me, the Narrator would be the Saving Grace. She's just so committed, and throws herself into it to the point she pretty much upstages Joseph himself.
I saw the stage production in October and I loved it! I loved everything about it the songs, the costumes, the story and I laughed so much at the jokes. It’s one of My personal favorites but I really enjoyed hearing your opinion on this show
so I was in a children’s production of this when I was younger, and when it got to ~sexy time @ Potiphar’s place~ there was a blackout on the scene and, no shit, A DANCE BREAK BROKE OUT... it went on for SO LONG... I-
And now it's time for Obscure Broadway Showtunes with Donny Osmond, the part of the show where Donny Osmond comes out (of the closet) and sings an obscure Broadway showtune.
Yeah this show is silly. The staging and set in the film version is weird, Donny Osmond’s Joseph is hard to get behind for some, and there’s some real left field stuff in here. But I was still singing along with most of the songs that came on, because I adore the music in this show. Despite Osmond’s acting maybe be off but I still love his vocal performance and the silliness is mostly just right for me. This show is flawed, but it holds a very special place in my heart still.
Except the brother’s group songs. Those are not good I agree.
You're just going after ALL the crappy Opposition based musicals out of bias, aren't you?
I approve!
I mean, the film version of Prince of Egypt is amazing, but based on what I’ve seen of the stage version, I’m hoping that will see its day in Diva’s court.
You mean the ten commandments musical? It's already been done on musical hell.
@@harrietamidala1691 No, there's a Prince Of Egypt musical now, adapted straight from the movie by the original songwriter. (Steven Schwartz) It premiered a couple years ago, but I haven't seen it.
@harrietamidala1691 What Jason Blalock said. There are official promotion vidoes available here on RUclips, mostly snipits, but again, based on what I’ve seen, the cast, costumes, and choreography really do not match wth the story of Prince of Egypt.
Off-topic, love the Gwent thumbnail!
Dreamworks did an animated Joseph musical as well iirc.
Edit: It's called Joseph: King of Dreams, and I think it's a bit better than this.
I watched this in school because it was our choir mistress' favourite musical (Surprise, she was the kind of music teacher who liked to sit everyone in a circle and pass around the tambourine while she strummed Kumbaya on the guitar.) I think it was the first time my young mind grasped the concept of "so bad, it's good."
I _never tire_ of Diva's usage of the "I hate this f*cking song" clip. 😊
Oh no, you came for my childhood! I loved this movie so much as a kid. I still feel a lot of nostalgia for it now. I admit it's not a masterpiece, but I enjoy the silliness of it and the high energy. Even as an adult I did go see the National Tour and a local high school production, and had a fun time at both.
You're saving CATS for episode 100, aren't you?
This is my guilty pleasure musical, I watch it way too much 😁
Seriously looking forward to your review of cats now that you've teased it
Okay, so if the 98 Cats is how to do a filmed stage production, then this is how you don’t do it.
HOLY SH*T, I never noticed the "Sold to be a slave" cut...though the last time I saw this thing was in my Catholic elementary school. Oooooh, the things we were never taught there could fill MULTIPLE gratuitously large volumes.
How DARE you speak ill of Those Canaan Days. That song is a masterpiece.
I 100% agree. Honestly thought it would have been the "Saving Grace". Cracks me up everytime and I appreciate the accents for what they are.
I did Joseph last year and it was one of my favorite youth productions I’ve done, we had a great group of kids putting on a completely zany show and we all just had a blast
As I watch this review, I don't understand why anyone thought the story of Joseph and his dream coat would make a good fluff musical. There are some seriously heartwrenching scenes within the story that would be better played for a straight play or a very dark musical. Having Joseph get imprisoned for being sexual assulted by an evil wife should not be played as some "fun" musical number with garish lighting and "sexy" music does not work because it cheapens the trauma that Joseph had to fight while also fighting for his rights in prison. If I was writing the musical, I wouldn't even consider a musical number for the act because in a world where male rape victims aren't taken seriously I think music would only distract from how horrific the scene is. It should be uncomfortable, not fluffy.
It's Lord Andy; he isn't especially capable of handling serious subject matter seriously, and even when it seems like he can it later turns out he saw what he'd created in a completely different way than every single person in the audience.
This was the first musical I ever saw on stage, so I've always had a soft spot for it. It has its weaknesses, but it's a fun show, and definitely one which is accessible for kids getting into theater.