Yeah, It might be PR BS but that tale that they showed De Meo this car in two styles, a basic one and a premium one (as this car looks today), he said, just make the premium styling the default. I’d imagine there was a similar bold direction at Cupra.
De Meo became Renault chief after the brand had become heavily impacted by Ghosn Gate. Luckily for him PSA's (now STLA) CEO Carlos Tavares gave him (and other makers such as a German competitor) a blueprint how to overcome a crisis i.e. a loss making operation. De Meo's Renovolution (ouch) Strategy really copies PSA's. And that's good.
@@DonDixit I think Carlos Ghosn is the reason this car exists. He was talking and developing EVs as early as Tesla cars. Way before VW and PSA. This learning and experience is now visible here.
Don't forget Gilles Vidal who had godlike status in auto design world, he literally saved Pug from bankruptcy and now Renault have three leading car designers, Vidal, Acker and Mesonero who bringed Seat in plus after 8years.
@@poxer1 Yep Ghosn was integral to the quality of this generation with the early introduction of the Twizy, the Zoe and the Leaf providing tons of data and learning towards what we see today, which in the case of the Megane and the Ariya is really nice visually and it sounds like they're pretty trick too
It's the big SUVs people 'insist' they need and the coming wave of pickup trucks I hate to see. The Hummer takes the biscuit there!!! The world needs lighter, slicker and more efficient use of all resources
Really good car review, on a really nice EV. Well done Renault, lovely looking car inside & out & loads of nice touches. Google sourced maps etc... built in, is a HUGE PLUS. Every manufacture should be supplying this setup as standard! Can't wait for a test drive.
And French national grid is actually capable of providing electricity at all times during the day without pivoting to burning more gas or coal. Seems like Renault is quietly making good affordable cars for regular people.
That's what you get when you commit to more nuclear power; reliable, low-carbon energy from the grid. Safety and public perception are the main concerns.
I think it’s a bit of a mistake not to allow people to option a heat pump. Why would the people in France need one and the people in the UK 22 miles away not?
Test drove one yesterday...ordered one 20 minutes later the dealer said it not selling as they wanted. Stop thinking about the past, things have changed. Definitely go and drive one...
Never mind what the sale price is, what's important to a lot of us is the monthly cost and that is dependent on residuals, something that's never mentioned in reviews. It looks like a lovely car and one I'd be proud to drive.
@@simonrak2 how did you pre order it? Are you not in the UK? The priority list in the UK only opened this week. That's just to put your name first for when you can order them. You still can't actually order them yet - we still dont even know the prices.
Although it's not limo-spacious inside, if this thing is keenly priced and given its outstanding infotainment (a bugbear on so many new electric releases) it's going to sell by the shipload
if the adjustments will be as good as this megane on the austral too then we might expect equivalent to number of sold 2008 in eu from that model. it is really rare that renault not cheaping out in few categories to give their customers cold feet.
A wonderful review by a superb motoring journalist who has taken all the essence of a car, and distilled it into what makes it great! Well done. I've ordered a top-spec Uk Iconic (with that essential heat pump). It was a straight choice between the Renault and the Tesla Model 3 (forget the id3/MG4......no contest! The 'sterile', boring and poorly made Tesla is now looking so dated, and the tech is so 'yesterday'. And on the 0-60 time.......the claim of 7.5 seconds, is actually 6.9 (the same as a Mini Cooper S)......how typically French, downplaying it. Unlike the over-exaggerating Italians 😂 . A brilliant touch going to the experts for the tech, Google, constantly updated.......well done Renault!
EV envy! You Europeans have soooo many to choose from now. I think this Megane is a real contender among the other brands in this price range and class. In some way, I like it better than the sister Ariya, but I'd have to actually see and drive them in person to draw a definitive conclusion. I do agree about the need to make EVs efficient, which is why I'm not yet sold on vehicles like the Hummer EV, the F-150 Lightning, the Rivian -despite their amazing features.
forget the f-150, the rivian is great, just not efficient, hummer is trash, cybertruck is sold out for years at this point so if i had cash i would at least test drive a rivian
I prefer compact yet space efficient easy to park vehicles. Even Tesla model 3 is too large. I think something between 4200 and 4500 mm is practical In the UK this Megane doesn't come with a Heat Pump unlike in France. it could be a deal breaker. I like how it weighs 1600 KG rather than 2000 kg almost on par with ICE cars of similar size
I’ve had mine for a month, it’s brilliant, but the range is nowhere near the stated numbers, about 160 miles on a full charge which hopefully improve drastically in milder weather
Absolutely go for the heat pump option without question. Got it on my EV's and they are super effective. Far as i know Renault even has a new updated tech version that is even better.
Agreed: never get less than 4miles/kWh in my e golf in mid winter: better to use the heated seats rather have the heater blowing madly, car pre-heated of course.
Quick observation: I got an email from Car Buyer today on the UK release stating at the top of the article "All three get a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster, and a nine-inch portrait touchscreen" then lower in the article "It boasts a 12.3-inch digital instrument panel and a portrait 12-inch touchscreen" - very confusing - so which size is it?
Looks lovely and I do like Renault car designs. Unfortunately I've had a so so experience with a recent Renault which was 12 months old, all of which were electrical problems which weren't cheap to fix. I'd buy one but I'd need to give it some time to see the reliability of these new cars.
Great review, thank you very much. I have already ordered the car (Techno), let's see when it arrives. The main deciding factors were the more compact size compared to an IONIQ 5 and the presumably better software, especially with regard to charge planning.
Great review, thank's Wookie :o) Ticks almost all the boxes for me, just a bit small and dark in the back. Maybe an ID.3 with the Megane e-Tech's infotainment system? Oh don't forget this also has V2G which is a big winner in my book. Charge the car on cheap overnight tariff and run the house all day when working from home, or charge on solar and use at night....
Interesting review and not a bad looking car. It's really interesting and unusual that the efficiency and range in coldish conditions wasn't that far from the quoted WLTP range. I'm afraid WLTP is a pet hate of mine as to be honest unlike this car, most cars will never, ever, ever get anywhere near the quoted WLTP range. I think it's time manufacturers were more honest and transparent about their cars efficiency ratings but they are probably terrified of how bad it will make them look against cars like the Megane e-Tech. But, if all manufacturers did this they would all look bad so who cares but at least Jo public would have a better understanding of of what they were buying?
It certainly is frustrating... But, in fairness, it's absolutely no different for EVs as it is for ICE cars - you only 'notice' it more in an EV because of the range-remaining reading on the dash. For example, my wife's Yaris Hybrid 'officially' does over 80mpg... We've had it for 5 years now and THE best we've ever got out of it has been 60.7mpg...! 😳
Have now seen 3 reviews of this, the big issue is not the efficiency, range or technical capabilities: it’s the back seating! All of the 3 reviewers have described the bad squab , flat seat, very minimal legroom. Why didn’t Renault reduce the load bay by a few litres to enhance the rear seat space, and Give more supportive seating ? It’s a deal breaker if you have relatives all above 6 foot!
We have two small children. I would prefer even less legroom a few more litres in the load bay. For strollers and stuff. It’s all about preference. (We ordered one btw)
Does the OpenR Link have eSIM for the connectivity? I'm asking this because for example, in Spain, Renault partnered with Orange for the "Internet on the move" in order to use Google Services without a phone, but... What about people who does not want an Orange subscription? Only way is to share their data from the phone using wifi hotspot? Or the car has the option to insert a SIM or set up an eSIM?
Sooo, one of these or a lower spec ioniq 5? I am leaning towards this as I prefer the look and it is not so big. Will need to see final pricing and specs 1st though!
Good review Tom, it sounds like Renault have done a good job. You posted the charging power rates but I think you missed a trick in not taking 30 seconds to drive home now well judged 22kW AC and 130kW DC is. The 22kW AC capability takes full advantage of a lot of car park chargers, while most other manufacturers seem to think 11kW is good enough.
I had a Zoe ZE40, couldn't fault it's utility but it was very dull. This is the best looking mid sized EV I've seen and not too large. Please Renault make a convertible.
Actually, I wonder why BMW hasn't yet offered the MINI Electric as a convertible...? Unless it's to do with the usual extra bracing a convertible needs over the roof version taking up what would be the battery space, maybe...? It's just another ICE-to-EV conversion, surely... 🤔
The infotainment is incredible for the class, definitely blows the ID.3 out of the water, which is even worse for that since the ID.3 relies on the infotainment for literally everything while this has shortcut buttons.
@@shroomyesc Yes it's the same system but with a smaller screen. They have removed/reduced quite a bit on the UK spec (on all Renault's) to make up for the extra costs Brexit has caused. It's just a shame they don't give us the option to pay more for the spec we want.
Great ! physical buttons for climate control, a dedicated display for the driver. But the big wheels make it heavier, less efficient, not to mention the cost of purchase of big tyres.
Two things to mention: Air conditioning is in front (not in passenger area) and connected to the battery/motor temperature control - so no place for frunc (get charging points with cable fitted...😉) In case of fire there is an easy access to the battery interior under the back seat (to fill it with water🚒) - only Renault got this...
@@markwood1533 Very possible,a month ago i was told October /November but a couple of posts have said demo models arriving in some dealerships end of June
I love my Kona 64kw ultimate model, been waiting and watching for this Megane reviewer to give his opinion. It looks to be a great car overalls, my only concern is no pull down rear seat rest , so no rear cup holders? The boot is big but too deep? They could have fitted a riser as in other similar cars to make it easier to get stuff in and out? Love the efficiency of the electric motor, very Kona-like. As in: I can confidently drive from Southend on sea, all the way to Buckfastleigh in Devon on one home charge’ the reviewer didn’t say if the car comes with a granny charger? Which is great to have if your needing to stop overnight where you can get almost a full charge up with a granny plugged-in for the return trip? But what a great looking car, love that it has Google say nab and is a lot lighter than others in the same segment. Great review, many thanks..👍
Great video but did I miss the pricing somewhere..? Apart from being told it's not the cheapest electric car it would be good to know how much I'd have to pay for the model on test.
Great review and like the thought of this myself, although just tried to spec one up on the Renault site and it seems even the Launch Edition doesn't have the 12" infotainment screen 🤔 just the 9", not the end of the world though.
So, I was excited about this car. Then today we found out that the UK will be getting a 9'' screen not a 12'' screen. No leather seats. No Harmon Kardon sound system unless you get one of only 300 launch edition cars. No heat pump. No digital rear view mirror. Forget this review and every other one you have drooled over everyone. This is not the car we will be seeing in the UK. We get a pale downgraded imitation.
It's this just based off the current uk car build website? I assumed these options would be updated when the prices are finalised. The French site allows you to spec it much closer to what I'd want. Agree, if we don't get what's on offer to Europe then I'm not interested
Your exactly right got my iconic yesterday no electric massage seats or self parking or wooden door strips very disappointed I’m going to try to reject the car on Monday
@@Slynell1The seller said I could pick it up in between October or November. But he couldn't promise anything due to how production goes on half speed due to lack of components like its internal cables, chips etc etc. I can end up getting it earlier than predicted. I am willing to wait for a year if need be, it's a freaking awesome car to drive and it was a instant fit for me.
3 other points of interest not mentioned. Door handles recessed, pop out and pull. Not a fan personally. Tiny boot release button. Very large step when back seats down.
IF this starts from £35k it'll be too expensive. That'll get you the smaller battery, the less powerful motor, the smaller infotainment screen and the smaller wheels. I suspect the model shown here will be mid 40's at least, which is just too expensive
I think you are the best beside Alex on Autos and Autogefuehl, but my wish is that you like Alex should be a little more focused on the total lifecost and driving comfort of a car, and not only range and charging time that most people dont need. Most batteries are the same and much fast charging will have a price after some years.
Belt line is too high so it doesn't have interior feeling of spaciousness which isn't helped by the dark interior. I almost wish most cars presented were of a lighter color to see the interior details better.
Feeling very frustrated that it seems like it will be many more months before we can see and drive a Megane E-Tech in the UK. Really looks to be very competitive if you can live with the space limitations. The new Nissan/Renault EV platform bodes well for future models which I guess will include the next generation Leaf.
Not sure why they couldn't have made the car a little bit taller, have better ground clearance and much better rear space. The rear seating experience in EV's is pretty shocking and for the money you're paying it's not acceptable.
Very interested in this car. But I fear it will be too expensive. £35,000 - that's bound to be the 40Kwh version. Let's be real, no-one spending that kind of money is remotely interested in that version. The range is just too small (186miles, but real world probably sub 130). ID3 and Cupra Born have bigger ranges for the money (although still falls short in my book). As does Kia E-Niro/Niro EV, as does Hyundia Kona, as does MG ZS EV. The new Smart #1 looks to be a nice car too, similar price point too apparently and yes a bigger range. It's not got a huge boot, but its bigger than some in this price range. I really hope it's cheaper than I suspect, but I really think to get the 60Kwh with most of the toys you'll be £40,000+ and then you're in EV6 and Ionic 5 territory.
@@jaz4280 yeah that would be a mistake I think. You're firmly in the EV6 and Ionic 5 and even Tesla camp..... that is strong competition. Anyway that would be way out of my range.
Every Renault I’ve ever had (3) has had electrical issues, I won’t get fooled again, especially when electrical issues would pretty much stop you dead.
I went out this weekend determined to buy an EV. No particular make in mind, 35k to spend. After 2 days and many dealerships, I gave up. They are either unobtainable until 2023, boring to look at (nearly all E SUVs look the same), too expensive or have some design flaw. This looks nice, but it will be too expensive and not available for ages. Stick with my diesel pickup another year.
If you're looking for a non-SUV, but still practical EV - which, as far as I know can be had this year - then have you looked at the MG5 Estate? Great value for the range on offer, plus a 7 year warranty. Admittedly, looks a bit like a 1990s Passat Estate - not, in itself, an un-attractive car - but there's a more svelte facelifted one due out later in the year.
It all depends what speed you were doing and for how long as well as if the car was driven from cold and air con heating / cooling was on. An EV is efficient after the car has warmed up or cooled the interior as you notice the % of battery drop by 2 to 3% very quickly. No one in the UK has done a back to back test against the Cupra Born and Telsa model 3. A roads at 50 or 60, motorways at 70 and city driving at 30 for 100 miles on all three roads. Doing this in winter would be useful. This would give cost compared to value for money and REAL world range and efficiency with NO pre-heating the interior.
A VW dealer told me that they have a 12 month wait on the id3 so the Megan could clean up. The MG4 and the GWM ora could be budget alternatives when they finally arrive. 2023 should bring a battery astra into the mix looking forward to non SUV's. Owning an SUV cured me of that affliction. An efficient hatchback is the sweet spot for me.
Surely we'll get to a point with efficiency where governments mandate a range average with non-compliance penalties like we see with CO2 emissions now.
I think the review makes very bold claims on efficiency based on very little. There have been a number of French reviews based on longer drives and longer time periods that haven’t been very impressive. Although these were also in winter. There needs to be far more testing before anyone can shout about how good the efficiency is, ‘near wltp in winter’ is very very unlikely!!
Best thing of its type/size on the market just now it seems. And I swore blind back in 2003 I would never, ever buy another Renault..based on my experience with the UK dealer's response to a problem on my new Megane of the day, along with the advice of my local AA man who I came to know quite well - 5 times in 6 months. Given the years that have passed, along with Renault's vast improvement and the fact that Renault dealers seem to be very different in Ireland where I now live...I'd buy this (I never thought I'd say that) over any of the alternatives who have suddenly been left quite a bit behind. Amazing to think too that the informed opinion is that VW should look to Renault for how to build a quality interior on their ev's; they don't have to be 'flimsy and poor' - not my words but those of friends who have id3's. Things move on very quickly. EV's still too expensive though, no matter how good.
Hi Tom, been on the priority waiting list for the Megane, but now found out the UK is being downgraded ☹️. No lighter interior only all black available, smaller display, limited exterior colours and worst of all no heat pump. What are Renault thinking?? It’s the only car I wanted so now having to wait to see what else comes along.
Curious what those proper measured kWh/100 figures are, when it would be so efficient. For price point the cheap price is without CCS and only 40kWh. And it looks really cramped. ID is really more spacious.
Ever since Luca de Meo took over, Renault Group seems to have real direction and purpose, something they haven't had for a long time. Great to see.
Yeah, It might be PR BS but that tale that they showed De Meo this car in two styles, a basic one and a premium one (as this car looks today), he said, just make the premium styling the default. I’d imagine there was a similar bold direction at Cupra.
De Meo became Renault chief after the brand had become heavily impacted by Ghosn Gate. Luckily for him PSA's (now STLA) CEO Carlos Tavares gave him (and other makers such as a German competitor) a blueprint how to overcome a crisis i.e. a loss making operation. De Meo's Renovolution (ouch) Strategy really copies PSA's. And that's good.
@@DonDixit I think Carlos Ghosn is the reason this car exists. He was talking and developing EVs as early as Tesla cars. Way before VW and PSA. This learning and experience is now visible here.
Don't forget Gilles Vidal who had godlike status in auto design world, he literally saved Pug from bankruptcy and now Renault have three leading car designers, Vidal, Acker and Mesonero who bringed Seat in plus after 8years.
@@poxer1 Yep Ghosn was integral to the quality of this generation with the early introduction of the Twizy, the Zoe and the Leaf providing tons of data and learning towards what we see today, which in the case of the Megane and the Ariya is really nice visually and it sounds like they're pretty trick too
At last, a motoring channel banging on about EV efficiency!
great, you mentioned the efficiency. too many fast evs that will only do 1.5 miles per kWh. still a waste of resources even if it is electric
It's the big SUVs people 'insist' they need and the coming wave of pickup trucks I hate to see. The Hummer takes the biscuit there!!! The world needs lighter, slicker and more efficient use of all resources
Really good car review, on a really nice EV. Well done Renault, lovely looking car inside & out & loads of nice touches.
Google sourced maps etc... built in, is a HUGE PLUS. Every manufacture should be supplying this setup as standard!
Can't wait for a test drive.
It’s not that HUGE when most cars allow Apple car play and android auto to be simply plugged in.
And French national grid is actually capable of providing electricity at all times during the day without pivoting to burning more gas or coal. Seems like Renault is quietly making good affordable cars for regular people.
That's what you get when you commit to more nuclear power; reliable, low-carbon energy from the grid. Safety and public perception are the main concerns.
@@BitCrafted Hats off to Norway! 👍😄
Brilliant review. Really nice to see something just a bit different in this sector
Heat pump is an optional extra but is a new design and a lot more efficient so probably worth ticking the box for it when ordering.
And the heat pump is just £400.
@@alre9766 Sadly not an option in UK.
@@talkandplay that is a shame as it does improve the winter range and At least keep it an option as in France
I think it’s a bit of a mistake not to allow people to option a heat pump. Why would the people in France need one and the people in the UK 22 miles away not?
@@chrisnewman7281 yep this is really annoying me!
Just when I think I know what I want, Renault come up with this, certainly worth considering
Test drove one yesterday...ordered one 20 minutes later the dealer said it not selling as they wanted.
Stop thinking about the past, things have changed. Definitely go and drive one...
Good choice bud👍 I've just done the same.
You 2 happy with it?
How's it faring for you?
Never mind what the sale price is, what's important to a lot of us is the monthly cost and that is dependent on residuals, something that's never mentioned in reviews. It looks like a lovely car and one I'd be proud to drive.
Just for orientation, the Megane starts at 37000€ in Germany, all the way up to 54000€ with full specs.
Definitely on my shortlist. Looking forward to seeing it in the metal. Come on Renault, tell us when we can get our hands on one in the UK.
The lead times are going to be crazy I think........
@@NickLiang I pre-ordered one about 6-8 weeks ago, estimated delivery is late september.
@@simonrak2 That's not bad if they don't delay it.......
@@simonrak2 how? Also only available with 9 inch centre screen
@@simonrak2 how did you pre order it? Are you not in the UK? The priority list in the UK only opened this week. That's just to put your name first for when you can order them. You still can't actually order them yet - we still dont even know the prices.
Renault this time did an amazing job! It is nearly ticks all the boxes.
Great looking car that is getting good reviews for its drivability and build quality. We live in France so expect to see these on the road here soon.
Good review!🌹👍 Looks best in base version with 18 inch wheels and all black painting.
Although it's not limo-spacious inside, if this thing is keenly priced and given its outstanding infotainment (a bugbear on so many new electric releases) it's going to sell by the shipload
Just for orientation, the Megane starts at 37000€ in Germany with the small battery and engine, all the way up to 54000€ with full specs.
When is it being released for you guys, out of interest? I think the UK still has to wait till the end of 2022
@@c4ar1zard I ordered in February, start of delivery is in June and my Megane should arrive at the end of June.
I just wish you'd test the cheaper versions that most people will get rather than the top spec one.
if the adjustments will be as good as this megane on the austral too then we might expect equivalent to number of sold 2008 in eu from that model. it is really rare that renault not cheaping out in few categories to give their customers cold feet.
A wonderful review by a superb motoring journalist who has taken all the essence of a car, and distilled it into what makes it great! Well done.
I've ordered a top-spec Uk Iconic (with that essential heat pump). It was a straight choice between the Renault and the Tesla Model 3 (forget the id3/MG4......no contest!
The 'sterile', boring and poorly made Tesla is now looking so dated, and the tech is so 'yesterday'.
And on the 0-60 time.......the claim of 7.5 seconds, is actually 6.9 (the same as a Mini Cooper S)......how typically French, downplaying it. Unlike the over-exaggerating Italians 😂 .
A brilliant touch going to the experts for the tech, Google, constantly updated.......well done Renault!
Professional and informative with a dash of humour. Good job sir as a 2 x Zoe buyer I am going to get one
EV envy! You Europeans have soooo many to choose from now. I think this Megane is a real contender among the other brands in this price range and class. In some way, I like it better than the sister Ariya, but I'd have to actually see and drive them in person to draw a definitive conclusion. I do agree about the need to make EVs efficient, which is why I'm not yet sold on vehicles like the Hummer EV, the F-150 Lightning, the Rivian -despite their amazing features.
forget the f-150, the rivian is great, just not efficient, hummer is trash, cybertruck is sold out for years at this point so if i had cash i would at least test drive a rivian
I prefer compact yet space efficient easy to park vehicles. Even Tesla model 3 is too large. I think something between 4200 and 4500 mm is practical
In the UK this Megane doesn't come with a Heat Pump unlike in France. it could be a deal breaker. I like how it weighs 1600 KG rather than 2000 kg almost on par with ICE cars of similar size
I’ve had mine for a month, it’s brilliant, but the range is nowhere near the stated numbers, about 160 miles on a full charge which hopefully improve drastically in milder weather
Absolutely go for the heat pump option without question. Got it on my EV's and they are super effective. Far as i know Renault even has a new updated tech version that is even better.
Agreed: never get less than 4miles/kWh in my e golf in mid winter: better to use the heated seats rather have the heater blowing madly, car pre-heated of course.
Heat pump now available as standard /w the new Iconic trim (upgrade from Launch)
Quick observation: I got an email from Car Buyer today on the UK release stating at the top of the article "All three get a 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster, and a nine-inch portrait touchscreen" then lower in the article "It boasts a 12.3-inch digital instrument panel and a portrait 12-inch touchscreen" - very confusing - so which size is it?
Looks lovely and I do like Renault car designs. Unfortunately I've had a so so experience with a recent Renault which was 12 months old, all of which were electrical problems which weren't cheap to fix. I'd buy one but I'd need to give it some time to see the reliability of these new cars.
Exactly my concern. I'd be interested if I had confidence in reliability and freedom from issues.
Great review, thank you very much. I have already ordered the car (Techno), let's see when it arrives. The main deciding factors were the more compact size compared to an IONIQ 5 and the presumably better software, especially with regard to charge planning.
shame they didn't include a heat pump even as an option in UK unlike in France !! it may be a deal breaker
In your view, how does this compare to the Ariya?
Brilliant analysis of the Renault e-Megane. She's a beauty, following your vid, I'm off for a test drive. Ta. 🚗
Great review, thank's Wookie :o)
Ticks almost all the boxes for me, just a bit small and dark in the back. Maybe an ID.3 with the Megane e-Tech's infotainment system? Oh don't forget this also has V2G which is a big winner in my book. Charge the car on cheap overnight tariff and run the house all day when working from home, or charge on solar and use at night....
Doesn't V2G mean more charging/discharging cycles, thus reducing the battery life?
Interesting review and not a bad looking car.
It's really interesting and unusual that the efficiency and range in coldish conditions wasn't that far from the quoted WLTP range.
I'm afraid WLTP is a pet hate of mine as to be honest unlike this car, most cars will never, ever, ever get anywhere near the quoted WLTP range.
I think it's time manufacturers were more honest and transparent about their cars efficiency ratings but they are probably terrified of how bad it will make them look against cars like the Megane e-Tech. But, if all manufacturers did this they would all look bad so who cares but at least Jo public would have a better understanding of of what they were buying?
It certainly is frustrating...
But, in fairness, it's absolutely no different for EVs as it is for ICE cars - you only 'notice' it more in an EV because of the range-remaining reading on the dash.
For example, my wife's Yaris Hybrid 'officially' does over 80mpg...
We've had it for 5 years now and THE best we've ever got out of it has been 60.7mpg...! 😳
Nice review! Thank you for sharing your thought on this Megane e-Tech! The French brand seems to have a lot of great ideas with EVs! 🔌⚡🚘
Looks like Renault have learnt a lot from the Zoe. Averaging over 4 mi/kWh for non eco driving is a great achievement for.
How many miles and what terrain was that 4mi/kWh achieved over?
Have now seen 3 reviews of this, the big issue is not the efficiency, range or technical capabilities: it’s the back seating! All of the 3 reviewers have described the bad squab , flat seat, very minimal legroom. Why didn’t Renault reduce the load bay by a few litres to enhance the rear seat space, and Give more supportive seating ? It’s a deal breaker if you have relatives all above 6 foot!
We have two small children. I would prefer even less legroom a few more litres in the load bay. For strollers and stuff. It’s all about preference. (We ordered one btw)
excellent intro!
Does the OpenR Link have eSIM for the connectivity? I'm asking this because for example, in Spain, Renault partnered with Orange for the "Internet on the move" in order to use Google Services without a phone, but... What about people who does not want an Orange subscription? Only way is to share their data from the phone using wifi hotspot? Or the car has the option to insert a SIM or set up an eSIM?
Dear Tom, another great review, another month where I have no idea when I might be able to buy one! Do you know?
Sooo, one of these or a lower spec ioniq 5? I am leaning towards this as I prefer the look and it is not so big. Will need to see final pricing and specs 1st though!
Thanks , such a good review.
Good review Tom, it sounds like Renault have done a good job.
You posted the charging power rates but I think you missed a trick in not taking 30 seconds to drive home now well judged 22kW AC and 130kW DC is. The 22kW AC capability takes full advantage of a lot of car park chargers, while most other manufacturers seem to think 11kW is good enough.
I had a Zoe ZE40, couldn't fault it's utility but it was very dull. This is the best looking mid sized EV I've seen and not too large. Please Renault make a convertible.
Actually, I wonder why BMW hasn't yet offered the MINI Electric as a convertible...?
Unless it's to do with the usual extra bracing a convertible needs over the roof version taking up what would be the battery space, maybe...?
It's just another ICE-to-EV conversion, surely... 🤔
The infotainment is incredible for the class, definitely blows the ID.3 out of the water, which is even worse for that since the ID.3 relies on the infotainment for literally everything while this has shortcut buttons.
Just a shame the UK won't be getting it. Only the 9" screen for us.. A lot has been removed from the UK spec.
@@seven-xg9wk At least it still has the android system right?
@@shroomyesc Yes it's the same system but with a smaller screen. They have removed/reduced quite a bit on the UK spec (on all Renault's) to make up for the extra costs Brexit has caused. It's just a shame they don't give us the option to pay more for the spec we want.
Love the high frame rate
Great ! physical buttons for climate control, a dedicated display for the driver. But the big wheels make it heavier, less efficient, not to mention the cost of purchase of big tyres.
Two things to mention:
Air conditioning is in front (not in passenger area) and connected to the battery/motor temperature control - so no place for frunc (get charging points with cable fitted...😉)
In case of fire there is an easy access to the battery interior under the back seat (to fill it with water🚒) - only Renault got this...
When is the Megane E Tech actually available in the UK. As the Renault Web site does NOT list it, even for pre-order.
Some dealers getting demo models in June so i would have thought you could pre-order soon after that June/July.
I was told by a Renault Retail dealer it is now November, not June/July.
@@markwood1533 Very possible,a month ago i was told October /November but a couple of posts have said demo models arriving in some dealerships end of June
@@talkandplay @Mika Davies, I was told this on 13th April if that helps
I love my Kona 64kw ultimate model, been waiting and watching for this Megane reviewer to give his opinion. It looks to be a great car overalls, my only concern is no pull down rear seat rest , so no rear cup holders? The boot is big but too deep? They could have fitted a riser as in other similar cars to make it easier to get stuff in and out? Love the efficiency of the electric motor, very Kona-like. As in: I can confidently drive from Southend on sea, all the way to Buckfastleigh in Devon on one home charge’ the reviewer didn’t say if the car comes with a granny charger? Which is great to have if your needing to stop overnight where you can get almost a full charge up with a granny plugged-in for the return trip? But what a great looking car, love that it has Google say nab and is a lot lighter than others in the same segment.
Great review, many thanks..👍
Great video but did I miss the pricing somewhere..? Apart from being told it's not the cheapest electric car it would be good to know how much I'd have to pay for the model on test.
You forgot the towing of up to 1500 kg. That is the reason I ordered that instead of the ID.3
Great review and like the thought of this myself, although just tried to spec one up on the Renault site and it seems even the Launch Edition doesn't have the 12" infotainment screen 🤔 just the 9", not the end of the world though.
Remember how we used to laugh at the Allegro's steering wheel?
The Megan-E will be my next car,, 🥰
So, I was excited about this car. Then today we found out that the UK will be getting a 9'' screen not a 12'' screen. No leather seats. No Harmon Kardon sound system unless you get one of only 300 launch edition cars. No heat pump. No digital rear view mirror.
Forget this review and every other one you have drooled over everyone. This is not the car we will be seeing in the UK. We get a pale downgraded imitation.
It's this just based off the current uk car build website? I assumed these options would be updated when the prices are finalised. The French site allows you to spec it much closer to what I'd want.
Agree, if we don't get what's on offer to Europe then I'm not interested
Your exactly right got my iconic yesterday no electric massage seats or self parking or wooden door strips very disappointed I’m going to try to reject the car on Monday
I wish the rear space wasn’t quite so compromised.. clearly better than competitors but even small families need space
Already ordered the high end version.
How long do you have to wait?
@@Slynell1The seller said I could pick it up in between October or November. But he couldn't promise anything due to how production goes on half speed due to lack of components like its internal cables, chips etc etc. I can end up getting it earlier than predicted. I am willing to wait for a year if need be, it's a freaking awesome car to drive and it was a instant fit for me.
@@carla.n.5078 Nice. I ordered the clio e-tech rs line in March and still have up to 3 more months wait
I just need to know when we are able to order here in the UK.
A wonderful rEView of what looks like a superb EV
That's completely true, its not enough to be electric, you must also be efficient, spot on !! :-)
It might be spot on but there’s only minor marginal gains that can be made until new battery technologies come in.
@@AlanTov as today you find already cars that take double a much energy than others, it sounds not minor to me....
I am curious about he liquid cooled battery, is the heat pump included or it needs to be added as an extra?
I honestly thought the new Megane was turned to a crossover, until I saw Tom next to it. It’s small!
3 other points of interest not mentioned.
Door handles recessed, pop out and pull. Not a fan personally.
Tiny boot release button.
Very large step when back seats down.
9:08 - Nice how you incorporated that squished Animal (:
My son has one on order...... I may have to upgrade from our Zoe now..... 😀🚙
IF this starts from £35k it'll be too expensive. That'll get you the smaller battery, the less powerful motor, the smaller infotainment screen and the smaller wheels. I suspect the model shown here will be mid 40's at least, which is just too expensive
yes but u can get the 60 KW with 130HP and smaller wheels too soon
Another BIG plus voor this Megane is that it can carry a trailer (up to 900 kgs).
Will it be the favourite that the Zoe was or will it be the Ariya that nobody can buy?
UK spec..we only get a 9 inch screen! And no full leather seats as per all the promo videos and early reviews either.
I think you are the best beside Alex on Autos and Autogefuehl, but my wish is that you like Alex should be a little more focused on the total lifecost and driving comfort of a car, and not only range and charging time that most people dont need. Most batteries are the same and much fast charging will have a price after some years.
Belt line is too high so it doesn't have interior feeling of spaciousness which isn't helped by the dark interior. I almost wish most cars presented were of a lighter color to see the interior details better.
Check out the new Smart #1 especially the Launch Edition,much more room in back, brighter too and has panoramic sun roof.
I love this design more than the ariya. I wish they'd bring it to the States
u should wait foir the new leaf then :)
Shame a sun roof is not mentioned, to brighten up that dark interior.
Yeah way too dark and tight in the back, not a good place to be.
There isn’t a sun roof option
Sounds like a real competitor for the Id.3 - sound hit Australian showrooms in like 20 years once oil is totally banned.
This looks nicccccce that head unit will be big winner . Integration with buttons what not to like
Feeling very frustrated that it seems like it will be many more months before we can see and drive a Megane E-Tech in the UK. Really looks to be very competitive if you can live with the space limitations. The new Nissan/Renault EV platform bodes well for future models which I guess will include the next generation Leaf.
Its an absolutely stunning car!
Several people mention difficulty in reversing due to narrow rear view. Doesn't anyone use wing mirrors for reversing?
Megane E tech has a reversing camera
great interior and the exterior is pretty good
Thanks. Very informative, except that miles, etc, don’t mean anything to me.
Not sure why they couldn't have made the car a little bit taller, have better ground clearance and much better rear space. The rear seating experience in EV's is pretty shocking and for the money you're paying it's not acceptable.
Very interested in this car. But I fear it will be too expensive. £35,000 - that's bound to be the 40Kwh version. Let's be real, no-one spending that kind of money is remotely interested in that version. The range is just too small (186miles, but real world probably sub 130). ID3 and Cupra Born have bigger ranges for the money (although still falls short in my book). As does Kia E-Niro/Niro EV, as does Hyundia Kona, as does MG ZS EV. The new Smart #1 looks to be a nice car too, similar price point too apparently and yes a bigger range. It's not got a huge boot, but its bigger than some in this price range. I really hope it's cheaper than I suspect, but I really think to get the 60Kwh with most of the toys you'll be £40,000+ and then you're in EV6 and Ionic 5 territory.
It will be more like near 50.000 with all the toyes.
You will get a decent spec 60kwh version of this for £35 or 36k. That’s what the main competitor id3 58kwh is. And after all this is a Renault.
@@AlanTov Well if that's the case it might be of interest to me. I can live without some of the toys.
@@jaz4280 yeah that would be a mistake I think. You're firmly in the EV6 and Ionic 5 and even Tesla camp..... that is strong competition. Anyway that would be way out of my range.
Great review, however you didn't mention the 0-60 figures!
Yes he did. 0-60 in 7.5 s
Nope, 0-62 in 7.5
Every Renault I’ve ever had (3) has had electrical issues, I won’t get fooled again, especially when electrical issues would pretty much stop you dead.
I have the exact same experience. 😅
I am keeping an eye on it but I am still holding on for the ORA Cat similar size but cheaper. Any word on the Cat?
Hope when the New Renault 5e comes out it has this technology and set up copied into a smaller package.
No mention of the Harmon Kardon sound system? Great info otherwise!
I went out this weekend determined to buy an EV. No particular make in mind, 35k to spend. After 2 days and many dealerships, I gave up. They are either unobtainable until 2023, boring to look at (nearly all E SUVs look the same), too expensive or have some design flaw.
This looks nice, but it will be too expensive and not available for ages.
Stick with my diesel pickup another year.
If you're looking for a non-SUV, but still practical EV - which, as far as I know can be had this year - then have you looked at the MG5 Estate?
Great value for the range on offer, plus a 7 year warranty.
Admittedly, looks a bit like a 1990s Passat Estate - not, in itself, an un-attractive car - but there's a more svelte facelifted one due out later in the year.
One wonders if there are any rainless days in GB...
It all depends what speed you were doing and for how long as well as if the car was driven from cold and air con heating / cooling was on. An EV is efficient after the car has warmed up or cooled the interior as you notice the % of battery drop by 2 to 3% very quickly. No one in the UK has done a back to back test against the Cupra Born and Telsa model 3. A roads at 50 or 60, motorways at 70 and city driving at 30 for 100 miles on all three roads. Doing this in winter would be useful.
This would give cost compared to value for money and REAL world range and efficiency with NO pre-heating the interior.
A VW dealer told me that they have a 12 month wait on the id3 so the Megan could clean up. The MG4 and the GWM ora could be budget alternatives when they finally arrive. 2023 should bring a battery astra into the mix looking forward to non SUV's. Owning an SUV cured me of that affliction. An efficient hatchback is the sweet spot for me.
It looks great.
However many of us like a higher seat position, for a better driving experience.
As long as you have kids in car seats (or no kids) the rear footwell thing is no issue.. I guess
When is this car coming out and how much!
Now UK heat pump standard on iconic
Surely we'll get to a point with efficiency where governments mandate a range average with non-compliance penalties like we see with CO2 emissions now.
Nice looking car, apart from the "Portaloo Latrine Grey" paint job.
Did the droplinks survive the test drive?
I think the review makes very bold claims on efficiency based on very little. There have been a number of French reviews based on longer drives and longer time periods that haven’t been very impressive. Although these were also in winter.
There needs to be far more testing before anyone can shout about how good the efficiency is, ‘near wltp in winter’ is very very unlikely!!
Who's shouting dude?
yes, it's clearly possible to oversize the wheels, this is pure example, as those are annoyingly big
Best thing of its type/size on the market just now it seems. And I swore blind back in 2003 I would never, ever buy another Renault..based on my experience with the UK dealer's response to a problem on my new Megane of the day, along with the advice of my local AA man who I came to know quite well - 5 times in 6 months.
Given the years that have passed, along with Renault's vast improvement and the fact that Renault dealers seem to be very different in Ireland where I now live...I'd buy this (I never thought I'd say that) over any of the alternatives who have suddenly been left quite a bit behind. Amazing to think too that the informed opinion is that VW should look to Renault for how to build a quality interior on their ev's; they don't have to be 'flimsy and poor' - not my words but those of friends who have id3's. Things move on very quickly. EV's still too expensive though, no matter how good.
What evidence that Renault have improved the ownership experience.
Hi Tom, been on the priority waiting list for the Megane, but now found out the UK is being downgraded ☹️. No lighter interior only all black available, smaller display, limited exterior colours and worst of all no heat pump. What are Renault thinking?? It’s the only car I wanted so now having to wait to see what else comes along.
will this car be available in the US?
Curious what those proper measured kWh/100 figures are, when it would be so efficient.
For price point the cheap price is without CCS and only 40kWh. And it looks really cramped. ID is really more spacious.
It’s too dark inside and claustrophobic because of it , Renault please offer a light trim and light roof liner option