@MrTudwud As is the act of an official in blue turning victims away, on grounds that it is a lifestyle choice, only for the poor things to be placed in the taxi from which they had escaped. Fear of being called a xenophobe is no excuse. They have to 'man up', to use an unPC phrase.
Pensioners shafted, young kids ruined for life. This is just the start, I read today that 200,000 jobs in Retail are expected to go that's along with the 200,000 jobs going in the North Sea Oil Business. Its not going to take Labour long to completely destroy the Country.
We see now the law of unintended consequences at work. Their gerrymandering has bitten them on their collective backside, as have their political correctness, DEI, and such.
There are too many Police Officers all ranks and other governmental officials and council officials guilty which will keep this out of the scrutiny of the British Public and legal system
@@johnkitching2248Nice try, but no cigar. We are dealing with a matter of a most serious magnitude. Ask any of the thousands of victims if the matter bores them. Read the clinical literature about the sequelae in adulthood.
Jess Phillips has no rite to say any thing she’s part of the whole coverup, she’s scared of losing her cushy little well paid job , by losing the Muslim vote, 🇬🇧✝🇬🇧
Free breakfast club. Parents should ensure their children are fed before they go to school. I’m 70 my 4 children were my responsibility. They were clothed and fed by me.
The free breakfast club is for the foreigners and immigrants, not British children. Remember the last labour government, made British children second class in schools, instead of everyone being equal. This is a continuation of that plan for education.
You can get food very cheaply in Lidls etc like a loaf for toast, cereals etc but too much trouble for some and when food is free!!. Rather spend it on mobile phones and tattoos 😮
I'm in my 70's as well. Parents have more expenses today then we had whilst we were young like Mobile phone contracts, cigarettes/vapes, Sky/Virgin/Netflik subscriptions etc (tongue in cheek emoji (if there is such a thing))
The ' stench' is indeed palpable unlike the answers needed by not just those young white girls who were raped, tortured and thrown out like trash but we too need answers. May I gently urge Mr S to think of those girls and acknowledge that a full independent inquiry is absolutely needed and if my comment is viewed as ' far right', then so be it ..... some things are too important than callous words . Now the ' Genie in the bottle' has been released , it must never be allowed back .
I shall be checking how my Labour MP (who I did not vote for) has voted in the Inquiry vote today. He won’t miss my non-vote but I shall ensure that everyone, neighbours, friends etc, are aware of his decision whether to vote with integrity or as a coward, afraid of upsetting his masters.
We MUST have a full, PUBLIC National Enquiry. Starmer should be ousted immediately for calling the majority of hard working Brits concerned about murdered girls in Southport and hundreds of thousands of violently raped children far right and racist ; it is too despicable to accept that he does things like that and throw innocent people in jail, to close down the debate and make people frightened to speak out. We will no longer be silent.
@@rosemarywoolley8394 probably because it appears all the Towns/Cities it was happening in are/ were all Labour Controlled! It’s most likely many Politicians, Police and Social Services are involved
We all know this can will be kicked down the road. I hope decent counties put the UK on the danger list for visiting, especially if u want a holiday here
It's not all about losing votes at all, it is about the complicity in the cover up of Labour right to the top. See Raja Miah interview on Tousi TV, he lays out who was involved in the cover up of just Oldham. The treat of being called a racist was always just a weapon to keep people who had concerns that multiculturalism had some serious downsides quiet.
The confluence of so many genuine, serious problems and crises not only throw Labour's ideology in negative light (including importing millions of people), but also their honesty, their probity, their morals. I believe that this crisis is about more than serious lapses. It is about everything that is fundamental to socialism. Regrettably, today we are experiencing a litmus test of socialism, and it is failing; economically, morally and in terms of governance. What has propelled this is the absolutely dire selection practises of the Labour party, which are driven by activists of the most dangerous sort. Regrettably, the Conservatives are not much better. These words of mine do not indicate a desire to run to one of the alternatives, but they do indicate concern that we are now in a dangerous state of flux and instability, with no clear plan. There is the presence of ideologically driven people like Miliband in government, whose ignorance of science is dangerous, with energy policies that are further endangering the economy. Coupled with Reeves' economic madness and, at the bottom of it, people who can neither heat their homes properly, not afford to eat properly, the basis for national collapse has been instituted by people who bear grudges rather than evidence based science, and they are harming the very people their party founded to help.
Where is the King? Please remember, this is his country, this is his government, he is complicit. He has failed, he will continue to do so. Our late Queen, may she rest in peace, would be turning in her grave. 😔 We are weak, and betrayed.
The King has been interfering in British politics and policies for decades, that’s already been proven. In this country and across the commonwealth, everything leads back to the crown 😔 The King , his establishment are responsible , this is his reign, this is his government.
We have no industry we have no manufacturing but we have rape gangs drug gangs barber shops people and scooters kids going missing organ harvesting a lot of the crops come from government homes that's a very big economy
Jess Pisslips used the exact same slur that Elon Musk used (except the word genocide) aimed at George Galloway in 2015 it's still on her X timeline. So drop the Poor Jess Pisslips line.
Innocent, pure, protected she. Wholesome precious baby be. Blank the canvas see how our children write their own script. A script of a world where love and safety reside and trust beckons. The tender years thrust into a world of uncertainty and chaos. The doting parent/s in a fairy tale anticipation feel joy and pride. This, their most precious jewel dreams her dreams in sweet splendour. All those dreams shattered in a moment of unfathomable horror. The cry of pain and suffering amidst the stench of injustice and cowardly silence is palpable. Questions raised with shock and awe within the hearts of those who care. Guardians of the state stand by appeasing with political eye whilst the political theatrics take centre stage. Precious innocence taken by force with villainous contempt to betrayal upon the defiled political altar. Fight we must with might and strength defend our girls from evils hands. 👍✌️💙😢
There were so many MPs or possible MPs that were so vociferous about this prior to the election, like the Waspi women, who are now so negative about further investigations. It feels that history is attempting to be swept under the carpet.
I'm no fan of Labour and TTK. However, we need to remember that for the many years that the Tories were in power they did nothing to bring the perpetrators, and those who turned a blind eye, to justice. We don't need an enquiry, that will just fatten lawyers' wallets, we need to see long overdue justice finally, and very promptly served.
There needs to be an investigation, but the public now see "Inquiries" as long drawn out , expensive , manipulations to kick the can down the road whilst the outcome is already known at the beginning and is the guidelines of the "Inquiry". Then they don't act on it or any other. Anything done by politicians is totally inefficient and expensive.
Stamer still needs to be made responsible for all of this ,he 10:10 just doesn't want to go to jail for the first bit of truth , he needs to cover up , he just can't help like is cabinet being found out and prison cells waiting for them
Why was 2TK trying so hard to divert MP's attention towards the Digital ID for kids Bill... I wonder why? Perhaps its the WEF's 'stage one' in getting the Digital ID thing started???
Why do Local Immam’s not address this grave issue of “gang rapers” in their communities???? Can’t the Immam’s not “rightly expose” those men in their community of believers who are guilty of committing this criminal activity and report them to the Police and expel them from the Muslim Faith????
Do you truly believe that people would trust anything to do with a police task force...a national inquire is what is needed, not more pontification of police authorities saying one thing and "not" doing another...get real
Jess Phillips says she is upset by Elon Musk calling her a "rape genocide apologist", but those are the exact words she tweeted about George Galloway in September 2015.
This looks like shameful political opportunism & shyte-stirring. Why didn’t the Tories or Reform call for another inquiry when the Tories were in government?
Stammer said he would protect them over all others remember that. Sadly uniparty voters hate themselves to the point to theu will keep voting for replacement and ever more islam
“The vote was taken at once, and it was agreed by an overwhelming majority that rats were comrades. There were only four dissentients, the three dogs and the cat, who was afterwards discovered to have voted on both sides.”
Until every officer or head of police who didn't charge the rapiest should be charged, jailed and lose the pensions that taxpayers are to pay. And Gordon Brown, Tony Blair and others should be striped of position, pension and any say in politics then justice could be considered as done.
Well I'll come to a conclusion. It's a massive cover up and it doesn't take a brain surgeon to know why. There are many prominent people to blame. I'm no brain surgeon and I don't need an inquiry to tell me what's gone on and who is to blame. Why do inquiries take so long. The last one took ,7 years just to find out what is obvious. I give up.
There can be no valid excuse not to have a transparent enquiry apart from fear of exposure 👍😤🤬
Why call it grooming gangs when it’s quite obvious it’s rape gangs
Grooming Gangs title. Hides the Actual Crimes of Rape, Torture, Abuse, Violence, Drugs and Mental Cruelty involved.
Because our Peedoh Protector General doesn't like insulting his voting 'communities.'
Yes, that's the honest description. However, the term you've used, needs to also be preceded by the adjective, "Islamic".
🤔 If you give a young mentally messed up vulnerable girl free drugs and alcohol, then abuse her, that is grooming 😔
@@johndean1634 By people who believe they`re the Special Breed
Get on prosecuting those who allowed this known crime to keep occurring,all of them should be ashamed for turning a blind eye,it STINKS OF CORRUPTION
Turning a blind eye is a crime it itself.
@MrTudwud As is the act of an official in blue turning victims away, on grounds that it is a lifestyle choice, only for the poor things to be placed in the taxi from which they had escaped. Fear of being called a xenophobe is no excuse. They have to 'man up', to use an unPC phrase.
Starmer knows he been found out thats why he doesnt want an enquiry
He must resign both from his post, and from his constituency. There are others, and for a variety of reasons.
Pensioners shafted, young kids ruined for life. This is just the start, I read today that 200,000 jobs in Retail are expected to go that's along with the 200,000 jobs going in the North Sea Oil Business. Its not going to take Labour long to completely destroy the Country.
...but the ped@#%lies will be safe.
That is their plan, a country of serfs that they can control. Typical Commie format, make everyone dependent on the government, control them.
As expected.
@@garyb455 Socialism in all its ugly glory. People are fools, they never learn.
People never learn. Billions tossed around like confetti, high taxes, no growth.. Eat, sleep repeat.
I agree this does stink something rotten. I want no stone unturned. I want those who let this happen to be held to account.
That's why starmers fighting the enquiry no doubt threatening not to vote for the enquiry as we speak!😢😢😢
We see now the law of unintended consequences at work. Their gerrymandering has bitten them on their collective backside, as have their political correctness, DEI, and such.
another failure it seems from our completely impartial police
@@MonkeySpanner498 And politicians, social services, councilors the whole establishment knew this was being covered up.
If the boot was on the other foot an inquiry would be a given, without a shadow of a doubt.
There are too many Police Officers all ranks and other governmental officials and council officials guilty which will keep this out of the scrutiny of the British Public and legal system
Starmer calling everyone who disagrees far right is getting as boring as him saying his dad was a toolmaker
And £22 billion ..... hole. Is he allowed to say that?
Trolls saying that Starmer calls everyone who disagrees with him far right are as boring as Farage saying him & Musk are really best pals.
Yes and his dad certainly made a tool!
@@johnkitching2248Nice try, but no cigar. We are dealing with a matter of a most serious magnitude. Ask any of the thousands of victims if the matter bores them. Read the clinical literature about the sequelae in adulthood.
ain't that the truth.
Jess Phillips calling George Galloway a rape apologist is OK?
Galloway i s a traitor to this country..
And at least two others.
Jess Phillips has no rite to say any thing she’s part of the whole coverup, she’s scared of losing her cushy little well paid job , by losing the Muslim vote, 🇬🇧✝🇬🇧
Free breakfast club. Parents should ensure their children are fed before they go to school. I’m 70 my 4 children were my responsibility. They were clothed and fed by me.
AGREE 💯. GOOD OLD DAYS
The free breakfast club is for the foreigners and immigrants, not British children.
Remember the last labour government, made British children second class in schools, instead of everyone being equal. This is a continuation of that plan for education.
You can get food very cheaply in Lidls etc like a loaf for toast, cereals etc but too much trouble for some and when food is free!!. Rather spend it on mobile phones and tattoos 😮
@@lindaramage69X boxes, PlayStations, etc.
I'm in my 70's as well. Parents have more expenses today then we had whilst we were young like Mobile phone contracts, cigarettes/vapes, Sky/Virgin/Netflik subscriptions etc (tongue in cheek emoji (if there is such a thing))
M.P's should vote for their towns and cities constituents, not what the Harmer tells them to do to cover his tracks, this will be telling.
100% SUPPORT FOR TOMMY
100% SUPPORT FOR ELON
100% JAIL FOR STARMER
100% jail for Phillips
The ' stench' is indeed palpable unlike the answers needed by not just those young white girls who were raped, tortured and thrown out like trash but we too need answers. May I gently urge Mr S to think of those girls and acknowledge that a full independent inquiry is absolutely needed and if my comment is viewed as ' far right', then so be it ..... some things are too important than callous words . Now the ' Genie in the bottle' has been released , it must never be allowed back .
_Get Islam out. Cut the cord
Too late, far too late, they are firmly entrenched. Enjoy.
Or earlier before birth!
I shall be checking how my Labour MP (who I did not vote for) has voted in the Inquiry vote today. He won’t miss my non-vote but I shall ensure that everyone, neighbours, friends etc, are aware of his decision whether to vote with integrity or as a coward, afraid of upsetting his masters.
100% correct
We MUST have a full, PUBLIC National Enquiry. Starmer should be ousted immediately for calling the majority of hard working Brits concerned about murdered girls in Southport and hundreds of thousands of violently raped children far right and racist ; it is too despicable to accept that he does things like that and throw innocent people in jail, to close down the debate and make people frightened to speak out. We will no longer be silent.
Tories demanding an enquiry that they never wanted when they were in power and Labour refusing to have one now. They are just as bad as each other.
Of course they are. But now this has reached boiling point Labour has the chance to do something. Why don't they want to?
👏👏👏👏 exactly so 👍
@@rosemarywoolley8394 probably because it appears all the Towns/Cities it was happening in are/ were all Labour Controlled! It’s most likely many Politicians, Police and Social Services are involved
@@rosemarywoolley8394...GUILT and fear of justice for us menials and our children! 😢😢😢
Labour MP's, councillors and Gordon Brown ordered the cover up! Stop blaming the Tories!
There's a whole batch of qualified people you can call upon and they are retired police officers
Totally..👍
Preferably from another country with no mates in the local force. I think the corruption is extensive and it runs deep into law enforcement.
Any mp who does not want a national enquiry needs looking in to !!
Careful now, you'll be called 'faaaar riiiight' in a moment, my friend!
The Oldham one does.
dont forget about all those missing children i wonder how many of them where victims to these horrific acts
We all know this can will be kicked down the road. I hope decent counties put the UK on the danger list for visiting, especially if u want a holiday here
Liebore cover up,,
Stop wasting time on further inquiries,GET ON WITH HOLDING THOSE RESPONSIBLE TO ACCOUNT
Decent people don’t turn a blind eye for a vote? Disgraceful !
Decent people would walk & search for a more wholesome opportunitiy.
'Ultimate safeguard' = National Inquiry...well said, sir and spot on...nothing less will suffice...!
People want justice for those involved, not just an enquiry.
I agree with you 💯💯👍
There should be a Royal Commission into this as well. Surely the King has powers. The silence is terrible from our establishment.
His brother is one of them....
L Mackinlay.
CORRECT
It STINKS
Labour might want to rethink their use of childish smears about the mythical 'faaaar riiiight'.
He's repeating Ben Habib's thought!!
Common sense is not solely the preserve of Habib.
We need an inquiry into who facilitated these grooming gangs to be allowed to operate freely with no worry of being prosecuted for these crimes.
The enquiry should be about Dictator Starmer's antics when he was the head of the CPS/DPP. Get that out of the way first.
It's not all about losing votes at all, it is about the complicity in the cover up of Labour right to the top. See Raja Miah interview on Tousi TV, he lays out who was involved in the cover up of just Oldham. The treat of being called a racist was always just a weapon to keep people who had concerns that multiculturalism had some serious downsides quiet.
Excellent and extremely informative Interview
We are not a medieval culture, we now have moved on.
Agree with all you say
Some of these children were in care! So what when wrong there?
Very good.
This is the time the farmers blockade food disruptions centres
I expect they will force everyone to shut up, and back to their normal. Disgraceful !
Europe is in turmoil because of Islamic emigration into our countries
..all as planned
Labour will hold an Enquiry once they've got their people in place to ensure its a whitewash (if you'll pardon the pun).
They care more about their jobs than protecting our children. What is the point at all of having Safeguarding policies when they are ignored.
Politicians protecting evil people. 😢
The confluence of so many genuine, serious problems and crises not only throw Labour's ideology in negative light (including importing millions of people), but also their honesty, their probity, their morals. I believe that this crisis is about more than serious lapses. It is about everything that is fundamental to socialism. Regrettably, today we are experiencing a litmus test of socialism, and it is failing; economically, morally and in terms of governance. What has propelled this is the absolutely dire selection practises of the Labour party, which are driven by activists of the most dangerous sort. Regrettably, the Conservatives are not much better. These words of mine do not indicate a desire to run to one of the alternatives, but they do indicate concern that we are now in a dangerous state of flux and instability, with no clear plan. There is the presence of ideologically driven people like Miliband in government, whose ignorance of science is dangerous, with energy policies that are further endangering the economy. Coupled with Reeves' economic madness and, at the bottom of it, people who can neither heat their homes properly, not afford to eat properly, the basis for national collapse has been instituted by people who bear grudges rather than evidence based science, and they are harming the very people their party founded to help.
Its the stench of starmer. He exudes bs in spades
Where is the King? Please remember, this is his country, this is his government, he is complicit. He has failed, he will continue to do so. Our late Queen, may she rest in peace, would be turning in her grave. 😔 We are weak, and betrayed.
Oh for goodness sake the king is not doing this Starmer is. But how do you know what he is saying to Starmer in their private meetings.
The King has been interfering in British politics and policies for decades, that’s already been proven. In this country and across the commonwealth, everything leads back to the crown 😔 The King , his establishment are responsible , this is his reign, this is his government.
@@cliff9258the King as Prince of Wales regularly trod close to political issues. The Monarch does not.
Starmer will ignore the King just like he does the rest of us 😢 He believes that he can control the whole lit of us
@@kim-mariefreeston8336 Starmer will do the Kings bidding, just as Kahn will 😔 all roads lead back to the crown.
National enquiry = MPs investigating themselves......... that always goes well..
He smelled the stink for 14 years.
Oh for goodness sake keep up ..
Jess Phillips called Galloway the same thing back in 2015 and no one cried victim
Starmer has said any labour mp that votes yes to inquirey .. loses the whip£££.
How very undemocratic
this isn't about 'values'. This is about our LAW surely
This eill not go away until we get a National Inquiry!
We have no industry we have no manufacturing but we have rape gangs drug gangs barber shops people and scooters kids going missing organ harvesting a lot of the crops come from government homes that's a very big economy
“Something rotten in the State of Denmark.”
From Shakespeare’s Hamlet
Jess Pisslips used the exact same slur that Elon Musk used (except the word genocide) aimed at George Galloway in 2015 it's still on her X timeline. So drop the Poor Jess Pisslips line.
Where is Maggie Oliver's damehood? The UK govt gives honors to actresses and athletes. Why not Maggie?
Listen to this guy he can’t spit out the truth. Different religions but one law with justice for all
Innocent, pure, protected she. Wholesome precious baby be.
Blank the canvas see how our children write their own script.
A script of a world where love and safety reside and trust beckons.
The tender years thrust into a world of uncertainty and chaos.
The doting parent/s in a fairy tale anticipation feel joy and pride.
This, their most precious jewel dreams her dreams in sweet splendour.
All those dreams shattered in a moment of unfathomable horror.
The cry of pain and suffering amidst the stench of injustice and cowardly silence is palpable.
Questions raised with shock and awe within the hearts of those who care.
Guardians of the state stand by appeasing with political eye whilst the political theatrics take centre stage.
Precious innocence taken by force with villainous contempt to betrayal upon the defiled political altar.
Fight we must with might and strength defend our girls from evils hands. 👍✌️💙😢
Starmer, what are YOU hiding?
There were so many MPs or possible MPs that were so vociferous about this prior to the election, like the Waspi women, who are now so negative about further investigations. It feels that history is attempting to be swept under the carpet.
The presence of evil will eventually awaken the people to the truth if they abhor evil
@5.30 unfairly slurred only the exact words “rape apologist “ were tweeted by Jess Phillips in reference to George Galloway.
An enquiry is inevitable, v strange that Starmer can't see it coming. And Phillips must go asap, before he does in the spring
Black Belt Barrister pointed out the home schooling issue. I hope he doesn't mind me saying. It's really interesting.
What should be happening is a timescales enquiry
Not a good enough excuse if they lose votes tough
I'm no fan of Labour and TTK. However, we need to remember that for the many years that the Tories were in power they did nothing to bring the perpetrators, and those who turned a blind eye, to justice. We don't need an enquiry, that will just fatten lawyers' wallets, we need to see long overdue justice finally, and very promptly served.
I agree with you 💯💯👍 justice please 🙏 amen
There needs to be an investigation, but the public now see "Inquiries" as long drawn out , expensive , manipulations to kick the can down the road whilst the outcome is already known at the beginning and is the guidelines of the "Inquiry". Then they don't act on it or any other. Anything done by politicians is totally inefficient and expensive.
Stamer still needs to be made responsible for all of this ,he 10:10 just doesn't want to go to jail for the first bit of truth , he needs to cover up , he just can't help like is cabinet being found out and prison cells waiting for them
Starmer need to be investigated and resign
Starmer dosent want anyone rocking the boat over this as his mates are involved,
If labour vote this down i hope they're named and shamed and their constituency voters blackleg them in all aspects of life.
This interviewer is so dispicable . She has no mercy for Tommy , everybody tried to shut him up and she is now included . She has no moral values.
Why was 2TK trying so hard to divert MP's attention towards the Digital ID for kids Bill... I wonder why? Perhaps its the WEF's 'stage one' in getting the Digital ID thing started???
Oh Julia, how could you ask him that question about the background noise, I could hear it and recognise it for what it is. Tackless from you.
If proper police investigation, how many more victims will come forwards?
Why do Local Immam’s not address this grave issue of “gang rapers” in their communities????
Can’t the Immam’s not “rightly expose” those men in their community of believers who are guilty of committing this criminal activity and report them to the Police and expel them from the Muslim Faith????
They preach what has to be done, and will probably also be guilty
Yeah but there's enquiries and there's whitewashes
i see ben habib suggestion is now being taken on
Ben should chair the enquiry. He was not part of either wing of the Uniparty, and will vigorously allow the TRUTH to emerge.
@@stevev238 yes agree, i was already thinking that myself
Ben Habib and Maggie Oliver for the enquiry plus Peter Bletchley. No lords ladies MPs or police
Ben Habib and Maggie Oliver for the enquiry plus Peter Bletchley. No lords ladies MPs or police
Do you truly believe that people would trust anything to do with a police task force...a national inquire is what is needed, not more pontification of police authorities saying one thing and "not" doing another...get real
Jess Phillips says she is upset by Elon Musk calling her a "rape genocide apologist", but those are the exact words she tweeted about George Galloway in September 2015.
This looks like shameful political opportunism & shyte-stirring. Why didn’t the Tories or Reform call for another inquiry when the Tories were in government?
Starmer protecting his chums and whats left of his voters
Government investigating government. hahahahahaha
Lord Macinlay,
you've had 50 years to do something about this 50 year old scandal. To prosecute or deport these people, And you have done precisely
Mackinlay fails to appreciate that no police force in the UK is wholly trusted by the public.
Its not just that the people need to know what happened - its that the people in public jobs who failed to do their job, need to lose their jobs.
We need someone in power maybe if you ask Trump he may help
Stammer said he would protect them over all others remember that. Sadly uniparty voters hate themselves to the point to theu will keep voting for replacement and ever more islam
The Tories lost 100 pages of the last enquiry
International task force needs to come in and clean your house you can't let rapists investigate rapists it will mount to nothing
Labour Enabler's
“The vote was taken at once, and it was agreed by an overwhelming majority
that rats were comrades. There were only four dissentients, the three dogs and the cat, who was afterwards discovered to have voted on both sides.”
Until every officer or head of police who didn't charge the rapiest should be charged, jailed and lose the pensions that taxpayers are to pay. And Gordon Brown, Tony Blair and others should be striped of position, pension and any say in politics then justice could be considered as done.
Well I'll come to a conclusion. It's a massive cover up and it doesn't take a brain surgeon to know why. There are many prominent people to blame. I'm no brain surgeon and I don't need an inquiry to tell me what's gone on and who is to blame. Why do inquiries take so long. The last one took ,7 years just to find out what is obvious. I give up.
A vile stench more like
All you Journalists knew so don’t try and take the moral ground shameful the lot of you
Julia, Jess Phillips used the very same slur against George Galloway back in 2015. Tweet is still up on X. Hypocrite comes to mind
If the Tories were so "concerned", why didn't they petition the Kaiser or his mum before him to disband the Me6?