Queen Elizabeth II's legacy and its impact in Southern Africa
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2022
- The British monarch's legacy in Southern Africa has been that of land and mineral dispositions from natives. Some critics have put the blame on Queen Elizabeth II's great-great-grandmother, Queen Victoria for paving the way.
Lawyer and author of Land Matters: South Africa’s Failed Land Reforms and the Road Ahead, Adv. Tembeka Ngcukaitobi and Xoli Mngambi unpack the legacy trail of the monarch and its impact on Southern Africa.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika, DSTV channel 405, for more details. 
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The lawyer/author knows his stuff like palm of his hand i am impressed
Balanced, nuanced, well researched history and information. Advocate Ngcukaitobi masterclass class any day, sign me up.
So profound how Thembeka contextualises the history of South Africa. If we really knew our history well as society, we would make deliberate course in how we shape our nation and Africa at large. Not merely looking at the sad days of apartheid…but take the whole history of colonisation. Well spoken Advocate! I have been enlightened!
Then it's crystal clear, that if she was the good one as said, why she didn't command that what is stolen from Africa must be returned to the rightful owners? Bcs she truly has the Authority to do that, and no one would have questioned her authority or resist, now simply bcs of her failure to do that, clearly means she condoned and enjoyed the riches stolen from Africans, she's an accomplice to the atrocities done to AFRICANS, SO THE THIEF DIED UNREPENTANT.
@@nathanielkgobe427 The real issue is what are we as Africans doing to correct or rectify what colonial thievery did to the continent. We are still apologetic when it comes to addressing the ills of colonisation and their looting. To the point that many are stealing instead of empowering and strengthening our economy.
@@akhonabozo3442 We are not apologetic but it is the price to be paid that is too heavy. Looking at the global power dynamics, they would starve all of us to death, worse than what they have done to Zim and Venezuela. Are we willing to lose 60% of our population to starvation? We don't stand any chance. Look at what they did to Gadhafi. We are batter off as colonial clerks for now until the Western hegemony is challenged by China in 2050.
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Advocate is not a shame,He's a perfect humanistic and well read researcher, if some of us can learn from him and stop to be pompous and arrogant
This man is a well learned man 👏
This man is very sober, yhoooo. Hayi uvuthiwe lo bhuti ngeke. Thank you for this great history lecture from a great man and scholar.
Need more of this, this type of education is needed in our schools. Emancipate our minds..
Very powerful one, I had to come back for it after watching on 405
This man shows the importance of reading
True, I even went straight to read the article he wrote about Victoria
@@karabomojela3352 send the link
It's sad that most people, leaders too in all colonised nations do not know such vital history. How our economies were created, for who and why ? If we knew well, our current ills and challenges could be minimised adversely and living in better and happier environments.
@@karabomojela3352 Absolutely
Always a pleasure listening to Advocate Ngcukaitobi.🙏🏽
Advocate Tembeka Ngcukaitobi ✊🏾❣️✊🏾😍✊🏾❣️✊🏾
Perfect interview I wish our kids can understand our history.
Advocate Ngcukaitobi is not just an author but a brilliant political historian! It was a pleasure to hear an African history that is not told from the "conqueror's" vantage point but from that of the "conquered"! He dissects the subject matter without wanting to be politically correct but by giving the naked truth. He also doesn't just criticize but gives tangible solutions to be used by the parties involved to the benefit of all concerned. From his talk, it becomes evident that Africans are far from walking their chosen path instead of being guided by their former colonial masters down an unknown path to themselves, on an equally unknown agenda! This however, does not mean that the perpetrators of colonialism don't know what they are doing! They do, as he clarifies. They are perpetuating a disguised colonial agenda! They are giving the Africans something to hold on to while they enjoy the fruits of that scheming. Africans are fighting for salary rewards, not for the benefits accruing from the ownership of the economy and the land, he says! Which are enjoyed through racialised historical structures called the 1910 Union and the Vereening Agreement. Africans find themselves in untenable situations politically and economically. The only way, I believe, for them to extricate themselves from this, is by bringing brilliant minds like this of Advocate Ngcukaitobi together to chart a path that is best for Africans as designed by Africans. The starting point would be by telling our stories ourselves and choosing what life and future we want ourselves, because a lion can never tell a truthful story about its prey! The story told by the prey would always be that much more different. I was shocked to hear him say "the ANC has decided not to make history compulsory in schools"! This is a shocking way of taming our aspirations as Africans, the example of which is reflected in doing away with iconic events like Sharpville Day and Shaka Day, with the pretext that this fosters nation building! This change and elimination of the study of history, leaves our future leaders ignorant of their heroes and their nation-building intentions. This then directly puts us once more in the lap and at the mercy of the very colonialists that we defeated! Like it happened in Kenya after the death of Queen Elizabeth. Instead of demanding reparations from her son, the Kenyans called for a three-day mourning for the Queen!! On Heritage Day, Shaka Day, there was no mention of King Shaka! And if not on the day, and not in history books either, where will that be? It can only be summed up with Alan Paton's words "Cry the Beloved Country"!
All thanks to Mr T. You really have enlightened and inspired me with this conversation
Thembeka you are such a knowledge powerhouse.
Adv TN history lessons need a weekly slot. The man knows his staff.
best interview by newzroom afrika thus far.
"Soft glove over the iron fist", excellent.
This interview is a Gem!!!
We love T Ngcukaitobi you are making history because history is made during ones lifetime We love you so much TAta
Volume!!! please raise the volume on your videos before you lost them. I have to turn my volume almost to the max just to hear what's being said.
I had chosen this Advocate as one of the most intelligent person. I am from Zimbabwe but I rate this Advocate as one of the most well informed lawyer. To me he is a living library.
We should organise class action/suits, those of who are owed statewood pilaged in 1893, even dispossessed, our livestolk headed down south to establish the large commercial powerhouses.
A great researcher and educator Tembeka is. You can't walk away with nothing after listening to his conversations. These facts are key to be widely understood.
Thank you for educating us💁♀️💁♂️👍🏾👌🏿💁♂️💁♀️
I love this chap, brilliant scholar.
Um big admirer of this Afro Stylish advocate ....he knows how to drive point home...and he has dire staff up his sleeves .....he is truly a learned and staunch reader .....and would like to have his books.....in the future ..
@Silent Mpotho There's no need to abuse ellipses when commas would suffice.
Lol. You just distracted me, LeKis, not the elliptic abuse.
@@TheMaradebe That's what happens when someone tries to be clever by half.
I agree. He is good and his presentation bring out undeniable accounts of our past againist Britich monarch colonialism of SADC
And to still have a towns called Harrismith, Grahamstown etc is embarrassing to say the least
Those colonial names need to b changed
Harrismith yes...there is no Grahamstown, we now have Makhanda.
People in Harrismith call the town INTABAZWE. Harrismith has to change because of this man's henious crimes, the name is indeed offensive. Unfortunately renaming towns is a costly exercise
@@mabhubesintombela7600 mazitshintshwe noba it costs a billion Rands!
Grahamstown? What rock do u live under?
It's sad 😔 experience to our ancestors
What a shame our current African leaders cannot do us proud. it is all about their self-enrichment, no different from our colonisers.
Informative stuff from the advocate. As a keen student of history that was orgasmic 🤩🤩🤩🤩
Very Insightful
What an informative and educative interview 👏 🙌 👌
So informative
The Advocate has always been insightful.
SC Please continue teaching
VERY GOOD THANKS MR nGcukatoibi the history we were taught at school , thank you so much .I know think backwards again.
On point 💯💪🏿✊🏿
I need this book ka-Thembela Ngcukaitobi SC!
I also thought the same thing after watching this interview
What a beautiful mind
Much love, this is what we need, and more
what an interview! where can we find this article Xoli keeps on referring to?
We are not apologetic but it is the price to be paid that is too heavy. Looking at the global power dynamics, they would starve all of us to death, worse than what they have done to Zim and Venezuela. Are we willing to lose 60% of our population to starvation? We don't stand any chance. Look at what they did to Gadhafi. We are batter off as colonial clerks for now until the Western hegemony is challenged by China in 2050. People like Julius don't understand the complicated dynamic and the global balance of power. They would rather get us sanctioned and starve to death for political expediency.
Advocate/Author Tembeka Ngcukaitobi and your Dr Lwazi Lushaba are one of the most vital people needed in our educational systems and strategical positions of that portfolio.
I have so much respect for this man.
Can they bring back them our wealth please....
Where is the link to the article by Tembeka Ngcukaitobi on this subject.
elite commentary from the adv. although I would've loved to hear him touch on the atrocities presided over by Elizabeth ||
Eish, Xoli, your "hands" must have been itching when you secured an interview with this gentleman 👏
The sound is very low though
Got my attention!
Does anyone know the article The Adv is referring to? If so, please share the title.
It’s in Mail and Guardian
Where can I buy the book? I am In swaziland
Xoli thank you to invite Ngcukatoibi because he is really telling the history which we all SouthAfricanswere told at Schools.This was not a ( Hidden History otherwise they would n't put it in our History. We don't need the Politicians to tell us we know about it. Thanks Advocate you really know what you are talking about. SOUTHAFRICANS at my age must know this History too. l don't know the Young Ones if they learn the History at schools.
Elite commentary from the adv. Although I would've loved to hear to hear him touch on the atrocities presided over by the Elizabeth ||
the guy is very smart straight on point
The sound is horrible hle
Profound!
Very intelligent guy
Please fix your sound volume i always strugle to hear your youtube videos
Iconic, enkosi Jola.
Insights
History should have been compulsory. As a child I was given a script by a Xhosa storyteller to play Paul Kruger. I viewed his zeal for independence from British rule with a limited lens and lots of admiration unbeknownst to me that my people needed independence the most. I still wonder why Ma Pat (Ms Petros) trusted me with her story.
Knowing our history would agitate many of us to demand redress and a voice to change the narrative. The land is ours the pain of our ancestors can find catharsis through us and our progeny
Yhoo such informative discussions from a young man .Teach our young ones
Wowness
Thank you two gentlemen for the information, even though it was really difficult to follow because of the tone of your voices. As i am now happy to have a little bit of that information of which i am really interested to know more about it. But i am not going to lie and say i was smiling to hear all that, to tell the truth, i was very angry and made me sick in to my stomach, but i am not putting a blame to the South African native people, but to the people who did that to them. I am just happy that i was not even near to be born at that time, even if i was born or near to be born, i would not have done anything to stop what happened, as those native did tried, but it was not possible for them to get whatever they wanted, because that was the way it was. As i can mention that, whatever happened, i hope it is going to be repeated, yes they have had their share, and i hope this generation is not going to allow that to happen again.
Operation Dudula, please come in. Here are the real takers of what should be yours. Hands up Operation Dudula members and sympathisers please.
Real talk
Africa we are suffering bcoz of Britain
Wow thank you African son of soil Themka❤️. Oh yes my brother Land matters. We are indigenous people of south African but we have no Land our government are still submissive to their slave masters
Tag the article...please!?
Indid it was good lesson whatever he says it's true we did learn it in school African history .southern African colonialism form 3 in Zimbabwe thank you for opening our eyes to those who didn't know
😂😂 of course
I don't see many South Africans commenting on the wisdom being belted out by the very informed and intelligent lawyer...bring a topic about foreigners, the forum would be inundated with terrible comments.... Zimbawe land reform should be a lesson for my South African brothers.. Zimbabwe has overcome the hurdle of the land issue largely... with difficulty of course as the lawyer said it is not easy but it is got to be done
As a South African I don't mind going the Zimbabwean route and yes I'd rather put energy on fighting whites for our land even if it means civil war than hating on foreign nationals suffering just like us but being in any country illegally is still wrong
Soon a dollar won't be the dominant currency so their sanctions won't work when we take our land back
I AM LIGHT...I AM LIGHT...I AM LIGHT
SADC countries have supported,fed and financed the UK royal household at the expense of Africans in the region.
The poverty stricken region as a result of the British people still licks its wounds to this day and surely for decades to come.
Couldn't av said it better myself!
@Thulani James Malinga You can include Kenya on the list. The tea and coffee and foodstuffs to this day go to the UK!
A real African man, not a copy.
Hayibo! Mntaka Ngcukaithobi. Ugqats'ulufezile.Teach the Nation
Advocate it's crystal clear so wake up Africans let's come together as one nd retify everything of colonialism together we stand firm but divided we open a big hole for our cunning enemies
I AM LIGHT AND TRUTH AND LOVE AND LIFE
This is triggering to think we are still slaves of that system
Eish, this history just makes me sick in my stomach. Something has to be done, no matter how long it takes.
Southern British Africa 🌍
Adv Thembeka Ngcukayithobi for President!!!!
Profound 👍🏿the truth shall set us free
I AM LIGHT..I AM LIGHT..I AM HOLY.FIRE AND HOLY LIGHT...
It's been a please!!!! to expose the evil empire, dankie Advovo
Plz improve de sound
The ANC is a British project. Oliver Tambo had a head office in London when he was exiled.
@Jacob Ditsheho When Tata Madiba announced his cabinet, the Pretoria regime laughed, they said half the cabinet had been informers during the struggle. The ANC opted for the toothless TRC because the Pretoria regime had huge files of dirt on them, from informers to atrocities perpetuated at Camp Quattro in Angola! They only feared two people; Chris Hani and Winnie Mandela. Hani was assassinated, Mam Winnie was subjected to character assassination.
@@lekis5975 What about Robert Sobukwe?
@@realgenius1402 The great Sobukwe was not part of the ANC, after the freedom charter was enacted he realised the ANC was turning into a white man's project, that's why he broke away to firm the PAC. Did the white power structure fear him? Indeed, they did, as evidenced by the Sobukwe Clause, which was passed to ensure they were able to detain him for as long as they wanted, without trial. Robert Sobukwe and Steve Biko were two great thinkers, erudite, articulate, principled and inspirational little wonder the enemy decided to take them out.
The lived if the wealth of Africa, while Africans starved.
Adv Ngcukaitobi, lex personified
Indeed very powerful.... His summing up of the past "plunder" under racial divisions was a tragedy.....but worse, I witnessed the anc's "plunder" at the sacrifice of their own peoples upliftment, that for me will always be , disgusting
Well said
Spot on!
Malcom Rens but don't you think we would be singing a different tune if the British rule did not treat the natives and people with lighter skin ineqeual from the onset. Anc are just doing nearly a fraction what's been done to black people of this country for centuries by colonilizers as the Advocate stated "they wanted to be babies" of the monarch.
@@malizokhumalo2472 maybe so but don't forget british and dutch did their crimes in far past time, anc still does today.
Looks like nobody learned from their own past history, that's sad.
@@serious1756 its funny when it's so easy to suggest we must forget only because it's in "the past" when nothing has been to make ammends no apology for killings no returning of stolen minerals and land no nothing you lot must mistake us for mental retards
Painful history 😥😥
Who are these agents exactly, we dig deeper into this
A serious topic of displeasure merely discussed as a philosophical exchange and that's what robs the liberation call its potency, we are focused on the discussion instead of the redress and it's high time we move to addressing the issues instead of provoking eloquent speeches
"They were 2 names that became super rich as a result" then the anchor cuts the convo. Wow modern keepers why cut the Advo?
Ma man
People of the world. All royal families in the world live lavish lifestyle. Anywhere. Also politians live lavishly while their citizens languish in poverty. It won't Go Away, only God will fix the ills of this world for every person on this earth to live signified life. ✌️✌️✌️ For the World.
I AM THAT I AM HAS SPOKEN TO THE WORLD..
Stek
History like any other subject to be made compulsory as well...
I strongly agree. South Africans are so obsessed about knowing Dubai; Victoria Falls; etc but know nothing about the significant places I their home country n SADC region. Fortunately some of us saw Tembela Ngcukaitobi nurtured at Unitra to be the best legal mind we have today. For me u need to have history as a major before applying law to the universe. Ngcukaitobi is the epitomy of this; no wonder why he is wiser than many legal minds we have.
Mashonaland became a protectorate and were used against King Lobengula by Leander Star Jameson and brought Mthwakazi Kingdom, who had a peace treaty with the queen from the days of King Mzilikazi. Paul Kruger of the Transvaal never violated this treaty with King Mzilikazi.
An academic yeseees this chap. He .is clear he can be a good lecturer they wanted.us to speak English as we are talking now
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In this video, i am going to refer this to the journalist. I think no matter how much the people appreciate you doing that, feeding us with the knowledge, as i am not going to mention this because i want you to feel offended, but because, just to let you know that, whenever you are interviewing any person on the video, your voice is so soft and very low, as a results people can not hear what you are saying, as a results, the softness of your voice is being noticed to the people you are interviewing, as they as well are trying to match your voice tone or level. Can you maybe try to raise your voice a bit louder please for people who are interested in your speech, as that is so important to us to know about that, as it is so educative. But if there is something that stops you or denying you to do that for us, i am sure people will understand.
God Body Cypher complete 🙏🏿
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