Didn't pull Helya once in the times I tried playing this deck. And any amalgam deck/combo is really punished when Zephyrs gives them a silence or mind control type card. Love the idea, but without specific tutors to make sure you pull the combo pieces I ended up with full hands of cards without getting the right cards to go infinite.
That is certainly a problem of all combo decks - you play out your hands and wait for a combo. I would even go as far and say hat if you draw a combo early that is a litle bad. You kind of want a combo to be played out after a zilliax or Primus to not just have a helya but premium drops that can control the board too. I think the experience with this archetype is key, didn't play enough of it yet, but I think that is a good start of having a deck like this and try things with it.
Wow ! I've builded an egg/plague with yodeler, death growl and Reska, I use the new card that spend corpses for have 2 copies of a card in the deck, but I never think about the Amalgam! Today I will give a shot! ^_^
@@DaddySuplex cool, cannot wait to see it. What are your thoughts of new DK cards btw? I feel like, they have a good design, but you just don't need them to win
@@ommo289 I think those are the fillers for the next expansion, so they can work perfectly together. Blizzard does that from time to time. They need to introduce something new to test it with what appears, to fix bugs, and so on, but after they release it and no one plays it, they get cards that interact with the past ones in a really strong manner. That is my thought, at least. I am sure, for example, that the 4-cost card to kill all minions will be used somewhere in the next 2 years when this card is available in standard.
@@DaddySuplex 100%. Imho they also need to be more constant on gameplay mechanics, IE the new cube is antisynergistic with half of the deathrattle cards in standard but works three times with shudderblock ability... We are doing QA test in production guys :D
I played the new mech (dummy) warrior on Cube and it's kind of crazy strong even on top legend. I think it ruins the low rank ladder right now so the cube is actually an awesome card, lol
Chillfallen baron is not enough to dig through your deck. If you want to assemble exodia then play some support cards: overplannner, naga that discovers card from your deck, soul searching (or a way to discover it in a BBU deck), even gaslight gatekeeper, anything that cycles through your deck in general. Value is where you have to compromise...No point in shuffling another Helya or whatever in your deck if you don't have the tools to redraw her reliably. Though if there was a reliable way to draw Helya it would've been instant S tier deck so that's a DK problem not a "this deck" problem. Also please cherry-pick the games you upload. You'll get less negative comments that deck is not working
Thanks for the feedback. We just tried the overall archetype, I am sure the deck can be made better. About the games, I feel like if I upload just like 1 game where I win - I am not honest with the viewers here.
I am glad you decided to try! That is the first video where we started to use this infinite cards combo in almost all the dk decks where it was possible =)
You give Helya a deathrattle from Amalgham that says "when dies, shuffle back in your deck. It keeps all the enhancements." That means the Helya will reshuffle in the deck infinitely, which means you will play it each time shuffling +1 plague in the opponents deck.
When I play a game, I like to think about all the possibilities. I guess if you do not think and just play green cards, you can have fast turns, but it does not help you to climb the ladder high =)
In the beginning of the video, I explained that this is the specific deck against aggro and mages and I never played it before and had zero experience with it. I think I lost some games just because I was not used to it. I just made the deck public as I think it can work well and if not now, than maybe after the nerf of mages. Even though it does well against mages, the deck can be changed as soon as they are out to have a better late game, for example. All we need right now is experience with it =)
I am glad you liked the idea because I think it will work out even better with cards as the new cards appear. This Combo just appeared in the last expension of the Perils in Paradise and will be available for 2 more years. I think at some point this deck can become top tier deck with a few cards changes.
@@stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891 I mean due to the rune restrictions you can make 3 blood deck but no plagues(why just to forge some card and make a 10mana windfury weapon) Or this deck which is better you have headless horseman and helya. You could play this as classic control death Knight and save halya until the very end against warlocks, warrior and thief priests. This spreading the deathrattle to Primus or yogg or helya. Is nice. You need plagues because big spell mage.
I think the idea of this deck is awesome and I just need more experience with it to come up to the best possible list that can work against everything potentially)
That is what it takes to create a new deck and new archetype. When you try to create something new you have to try a lot of cards and find the right one. For example, if you tried the last version of the miracle rogue, I guess you lost first 100 games in a raw before you even understood how it works because that is how the archetype works. The same with all the combo decks like this. We tried things and started the work on it.
This deck became a core of a lot of decks we played to reach top 100 legend, but I guess it is bad for you if you are a higher rank than this and you don't see a point in it)
@@DaddySuplex Well, 1 win out of 5 duels isn’t very convincing, especially when that win was a surrender because your overbloated deck annoyed your opponent. You claim your deck is an 'infinite plague,' but I sat my arse right here for half an hour ( 2X speed ) without seeing a single triumph, so I had to leave this salty comment.
@@hannibalyin8853 All good, mate) I am not here to show wins or triumphs like others, I am here to create decks that can reach high legend, having about an hour a day for everything) But, sometimes, I just cannot create a deck without testing a draft first and making changes after to make it really strong.
Very interesting deck, really want to try it. 1:06:00 you just need threads and kill zilliax , the poison will clear the board.
Thank you! You are right, I was really sleepy that stream because when I saw the deck I decided to try it immediately, but it was late at night =)
Finally I've been waiting for this.
I am glad you liked it =) Have fun with it and let me know how it goes)
By the way, did you try changing your original list recently? Any updates?
Didn't notice it was you at first as I just woke up when I responded lol
By the way, any comments on the gameplay would be great too! Would gladly learn from the creator of the original deck)
Didn't pull Helya once in the times I tried playing this deck. And any amalgam deck/combo is really punished when Zephyrs gives them a silence or mind control type card. Love the idea, but without specific tutors to make sure you pull the combo pieces I ended up with full hands of cards without getting the right cards to go infinite.
That is certainly a problem of all combo decks - you play out your hands and wait for a combo. I would even go as far and say hat if you draw a combo early that is a litle bad. You kind of want a combo to be played out after a zilliax or Primus to not just have a helya but premium drops that can control the board too. I think the experience with this archetype is key, didn't play enough of it yet, but I think that is a good start of having a deck like this and try things with it.
Wow ! I've builded an egg/plague with yodeler, death growl and Reska, I use the new card that spend corpses for have 2 copies of a card in the deck, but I never think about the Amalgam! Today I will give a shot! ^_^
I am glad you liked it =) Try it, it is certainly fun, but to understand the stats of it we have to play it more, I guess.
Been playing it for month 🙆♂️, remade triple blood rune to have some late game with helya and headless
Those are probably the strongest death knight cards for late game that are offered so that is a good choice)
Will definitely try this deck.
Bro, did you try to play handbuff DK in new expansion? What about new DK cards from miniset?
I will try to make a handcuff dk on the next stream. Wanted to do it today, but totally forgot about it when I streamed
@@DaddySuplex cool, cannot wait to see it.
What are your thoughts of new DK cards btw? I feel like, they have a good design, but you just don't need them to win
@@ommo289 I think those are the fillers for the next expansion, so they can work perfectly together. Blizzard does that from time to time. They need to introduce something new to test it with what appears, to fix bugs, and so on, but after they release it and no one plays it, they get cards that interact with the past ones in a really strong manner. That is my thought, at least. I am sure, for example, that the 4-cost card to kill all minions will be used somewhere in the next 2 years when this card is available in standard.
@@DaddySuplex 100%. Imho they also need to be more constant on gameplay mechanics, IE the new cube is antisynergistic with half of the deathrattle cards in standard but works three times with shudderblock ability... We are doing QA test in production guys :D
I played the new mech (dummy) warrior on Cube and it's kind of crazy strong even on top legend. I think it ruins the low rank ladder right now so the cube is actually an awesome card, lol
Which are the preferred targets for amalgam growl combo?
Helya?
Yogg?
Primus?
Marin?
Maw & paw?
Zephrys?
I think the best is helya + Zilliax, but primus and yogg are second best :) all other cards like marin and so on are "better than nothing"
@@DaddySuplex ziliax and oppponent uses yogg to steal it...
well, that can happen from time to time. So, I guess you should try keeping premium drops to play them after a yogg anyway
My problem is that 3 card combo with Helya. I will never draw that to actually use it. Maybe 1 in 30 games
Well, you are not expected to do that in each game, only against a control. Against an agro, you will win turns 6-7 anyway when they run out of steam.
why didnt you just make a ghoul to kill the banjosaur instead of using doomsayer?
Not sure, it was a late stream for me as I was too excited to share the deck mid-night)
Chillfallen baron is not enough to dig through your deck. If you want to assemble exodia then play some support cards: overplannner, naga that discovers card from your deck, soul searching (or a way to discover it in a BBU deck), even gaslight gatekeeper, anything that cycles through your deck in general. Value is where you have to compromise...No point in shuffling another Helya or whatever in your deck if you don't have the tools to redraw her reliably. Though if there was a reliable way to draw Helya it would've been instant S tier deck so that's a DK problem not a "this deck" problem.
Also please cherry-pick the games you upload. You'll get less negative comments that deck is not working
Thanks for the feedback. We just tried the overall archetype, I am sure the deck can be made better. About the games, I feel like if I upload just like 1 game where I win - I am not honest with the viewers here.
sold at 0:58 I'm trying it
I am glad you decided to try! That is the first video where we started to use this infinite cards combo in almost all the dk decks where it was possible =)
No Distressed Kvaldir...😬
That is because it costs 2 unholy runes, and that deck focuses on 2 blood runes for premium board clears and board control =)
how can we give the deathrattle with plagues if we don't play any card that put plagues in the opponent's deck with deathrattle???
You give Helya a deathrattle from Amalgham that says "when dies, shuffle back in your deck. It keeps all the enhancements." That means the Helya will reshuffle in the deck infinitely, which means you will play it each time shuffling +1 plague in the opponents deck.
Thanks , My bad
@@wikels1039 No problem, mate! I am always glad to help)
You take SO long to take your turns, holy shit lmfao You should watch Christian HS, might help make your turns faster
When I play a game, I like to think about all the possibilities. I guess if you do not think and just play green cards, you can have fast turns, but it does not help you to climb the ladder high =)
Was the Point of the video to show the deck doesnt Work? I dont get it...😢
In the beginning of the video, I explained that this is the specific deck against aggro and mages and I never played it before and had zero experience with it. I think I lost some games just because I was not used to it. I just made the deck public as I think it can work well and if not now, than maybe after the nerf of mages. Even though it does well against mages, the deck can be changed as soon as they are out to have a better late game, for example. All we need right now is experience with it =)
@@DaddySuplex ah the idea looks super cool, really liked it but when I watched the vid I got confused... But as you say... More experience needed! 👍👍👍
I am glad you liked the idea because I think it will work out even better with cards as the new cards appear. This Combo just appeared in the last expension of the Perils in Paradise and will be available for 2 more years. I think at some point this deck can become top tier deck with a few cards changes.
you are not running the plague deathrattle cards to spread to other minions
dude, you didn't watched the video, that was my same thought when 2 blood was showed, but infinite helyas is better than that
@@stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891 I mean due to the rune restrictions you can make 3 blood deck but no plagues(why just to forge some card and make a 10mana windfury weapon)
Or this deck which is better you have headless horseman and helya. You could play this as classic control death Knight and save halya until the very end against warlocks, warrior and thief priests.
This spreading the deathrattle to Primus or yogg or helya. Is nice. You need plagues because big spell mage.
That is because you need all of those 2 blood runes, premium board clears these days.
I am glad you liked the archetype)
I think the idea of this deck is awesome and I just need more experience with it to come up to the best possible list that can work against everything potentially)
Pierdes y pierdes jajaja ese mazo no está bueno jajajaja
No good deck started with 100% winrate. It has to be made good and without experience with it that is impossible.
Wow, best deck, don't tell anyone, loses 10 games in a row with shitty deck.
That is what it takes to create a new deck and new archetype. When you try to create something new you have to try a lot of cards and find the right one. For example, if you tried the last version of the miracle rogue, I guess you lost first 100 games in a raw before you even understood how it works because that is how the archetype works. The same with all the combo decks like this. We tried things and started the work on it.
OMG what a terrible deck
This deck became a core of a lot of decks we played to reach top 100 legend, but I guess it is bad for you if you are a higher rank than this and you don't see a point in it)
@@DaddySuplex Well, 1 win out of 5 duels isn’t very convincing, especially when that win was a surrender because your overbloated deck annoyed your opponent. You claim your deck is an 'infinite plague,' but I sat my arse right here for half an hour ( 2X speed ) without seeing a single triumph, so I had to leave this salty comment.
@@hannibalyin8853 All good, mate) I am not here to show wins or triumphs like others, I am here to create decks that can reach high legend, having about an hour a day for everything) But, sometimes, I just cannot create a deck without testing a draft first and making changes after to make it really strong.
cioè fai un mazzo, lo carichi e poi in pratica le perdi tutte? che tristezza di content creator
All good, I am glad people are enjoying Hearthstone more after trying interesting decks)