DOD / AFM Delete Gone WRONG Part 2. Getting a New Engine - Chevy Silverado 5.3L

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • In this video we show our findings and answer to the terrible noises that our 5.3L L83 has been making after the AFM DOD Delete. Turns out, we didn't do anything wrong! Instead we were sent the wrong heads. FYI, heads for a 6.2L will not fit on your 5.3L motor. The valves will hit the cylinders and pistons.
    Luckily GPI is helping us out big time so make sure to check out the next video for updates!
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    Associated Videos - AFM DOD Delete Series
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    Part 1 - Baseline Dyno: • AFM Delete Part 1 - Wh...
    Part 2 - What Parts Do You Need • AFM DOD Delete Part 2 ...
    Part 3 - Engine Removal: • AFM DOD Delete Part 3 ...
    Part 4 - Engine TearDown: • AFM DOD Delete Part 4 ...
    Part 5 - Installing New Parts: • AFM DOD Delete Part 5 ...
    5A - Cam Phaser Install: • AFM DOD Delete - How t...
    5B - Trunnion Upgrade: • How To Upgrade GM Trun...
    5C - Lashing HP Fuel Pump: • How To Properly Lash H...
    5D - Injector Seals • High Pressure Fuel Inj...
    Part 6 - Reinstalling Engine: • AFM DOD Delete Part 6 ...
    Part 7 - Tuning and Dyno Run:
    Part 8 - Installing Intake Manifold, TB, Air Intake, & Driveshaft:
    8A: AIRAID Intake: • Silverado 6.2 AIRAID I...
    8B: 6.2 Intake Manifold and TB: • 6.2 Intake Manifold an...
    8C: Drive Shaft: • Video
    Part 9 - Tuning and Final Dyno Run:
    Epilogue AFM/Delete Gone Wrong :
    Terrible Noises: • Terrible Engine Noises...
    Time for a New Motor: • DOD / AFM Delete Gone ...
    GPI Saves the Day: • AFM Delete GONE WRONG ...
    Lessons Learned: • AFM Delete GONE WRONG ...
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Комментарии • 366

  • @r3tr0nic
    @r3tr0nic 3 года назад +12

    Appreciate the honesty, things like this are very helpful for the community. Never would of thought the heads would be wrong, but it is a good lesson to all to always veryfy not just part numbers, but measurements and comparisons to original parts. I have yet to make such modifications to my 2014 L83 Silverado, but watching others is both great for tricks n tips, as well as inspiration. Thanks for sharing

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Glad to help! Definitely a lesson learned for sure and hope it prevents someone else from having a similar issue!

  • @Sil80315
    @Sil80315 3 года назад +10

    That's an unfortunate result but glad you found the problem. Still by far the most in-depth how-to videos on this topic and actually helped me out a ton with doing the same GPI delete (minus ported heads) on my 14 Silverado. Keep up the great work

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      Definitely a bummer but still very glad we got the series put together. Excited to have my truck back soon! New parts are on there way

  • @TD-qi8eh
    @TD-qi8eh 3 года назад +5

    Thanks for this update. Using your vids to help me along with my L83 getting a Stage 1 cam kit, DOD/AFM delete, etc. Actually reassembling this weekend. Great vids, and you sharing is much appreciated!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      No problem! Glad the video series has helped you!

    • @MrLoony690
      @MrLoony690 3 года назад +3

      Hey bud let me know how it runs after ? I have a stage 3 cam dod delete kit coming for my L83 with stall converter.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +2

      Runs good! Having a coolant issue haven't been able to track down but it runs well. We will have an update video out soon

    • @anthonymoy4471
      @anthonymoy4471 2 года назад

      How's it running ?

  • @03mach281
    @03mach281 3 года назад +4

    Tough break.. mistakes happen and good thing GPI is a good company. I will be ordering a cam/delete and drop in pistons/rods from them very soon!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      For sure and very true! Couldn't be happier with the customer service I've experienced with them

  • @BigEbikesports
    @BigEbikesports 3 года назад +2

    I did my own tune on my 2017 with HP tuners and several neighbors' trucks in my area. There are a lot of bad tuners out there so please use a very very reputable shop/person when tuning your truck. The Gen V LT engines OS are so different than anything else. Glad to see that company did you right and made up for their mistake. Shid happens but attitude and gratitude is what makes it all good. Thanks for sharing these awesome videos and your experiences.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      Appreciate that input. That always makes me nervois. I'm planning to have GPI tune the truck but if you have any suggestions from your experience definitely let me know

    • @BigEbikesports
      @BigEbikesports 3 года назад

      @@TheSundaeDrive ruclips.net/channel/UCP_LcnBKwJqJOiGoCRT5SCw

    • @BigEbikesports
      @BigEbikesports 3 года назад

      @@TheSundaeDrive Tuning an engine is on ongoing thing, not just an hour or 2 on the dyno. So many parameters, so many variables such as outside temps and weather. My advice is ask lots of questions. There isn't a lot of people who can tune a Gen V correctly. The link to Goat Rope garage channel is all the suggestions that I could ever give in one sentence.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      That’s our biggest fear with the C7. We’re probably going to cam it among some other things and have trust issues with tuners so Pete is motivated to dive into the world of tuning for the LT1 and be as meticulous as possible. Too many wannabe tuners out there

    • @BigEbikesports
      @BigEbikesports 3 года назад

      @@TheSundaeDrive Data logging and more data logging while you drive is your best friend. Always keep an eye on A/F ratios, spark timing, torque management, power enrichment etc. Motivation and patience is all you need and it's very rewarding when you get it all figured out and can pay dividends when friends, neighbors and family need tuning too!

  • @miked8227
    @miked8227 Год назад +1

    I guess this is a lesson learned about blind trust and verification on heads. We are all prone to make mistakes and I guess the old saying trust no one would of applied here. I’ve certainly have learned from this video. Thanks

  • @sk8man48_5
    @sk8man48_5 10 месяцев назад

    Really glad i kept watching the series

  • @Shotzie
    @Shotzie Год назад +2

    I'd be scraping the top of my head off the ceiling. Thanks for the info 👍

  • @ryanmclaughlin1803
    @ryanmclaughlin1803 3 года назад +2

    Great videos! Love the channel! Keep up the good work. One of the best car channels on RUclips.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      Thanks man!

    • @Brutepaintballer
      @Brutepaintballer 3 года назад +1

      WE ARE NOTHING WITHOUT INCREDIBLE VIEWERS LIKE YOU 😭😍

    • @ryanmclaughlin1803
      @ryanmclaughlin1803 3 года назад +1

      @@Brutepaintballer haha thanks. you guys are in my weekend routine! every saturday (lol I know) I watch all the new vids I haven't seen since the last week.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      Love it 😊

  • @bobart1790
    @bobart1790 4 месяца назад +6

    I recently went with a Jasper AFM delete remanufactured engine on our 2015 5.3L,I had a local installer do the work. No more ticking! Three year parts& labor or 100k miles.

    • @jwhmerica504
      @jwhmerica504 3 месяца назад +1

      Could you tell me what the engine it’s self cost?

    • @bobart1790
      @bobart1790 3 месяца назад +2

      @@jwhmerica504 the invoice from the installer I’m guessing (it’s been a while) $5500 for the engine, the shop charged $2700 for the install.

  • @jeffspicoli6088
    @jeffspicoli6088 3 года назад +6

    Note: GPI's HR team needs to regularly drug test fulfillment department, and/or management needs to significantly improve parts validation prior to disposition of inventory to the outbound dock.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +3

      They did end up making it right so even tho it was a huge pain they took care of me and that's way more than most companies would do

  • @nicktorres5540
    @nicktorres5540 Год назад

    Holly cow man I hate that for ya at least you have the knowledge to fix it I’m doing mine this weekend AMS racing DOD/AFM delete kit comes with a Diablo tuner too

  • @KiesMotorsports
    @KiesMotorsports 3 года назад +8

    So glad you got to the bottom of it! There will be tears of joy when this thing is together lol

  • @KrazyKajun602
    @KrazyKajun602 8 месяцев назад

    Yea, unfortnately a consumer can't trust anyone from any company to do their job correctly. Great find.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  8 месяцев назад

      They did make it right getting me a new motor thankfully

  • @mikereese3410
    @mikereese3410 3 года назад +7

    Wow!! I've been following along with this build, I only thought this kind of stuff happens to me!! Love your videos!

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching along man! Haha sadly it happens to the rest of us too.

  • @crazygrady127
    @crazygrady127 3 года назад +4

    Dude you have my kind of luck. As soon as you showed a picture of the valve hitting the cylinder wall I knew exactly what had happened. Sooooo much work. I would be so mad. 🤬

  • @boostseasonracing
    @boostseasonracing 3 года назад +2

    Totally saw that flaw in the head thread it was the video when reassembly happened

  • @osielgarcia8674
    @osielgarcia8674 3 года назад +2

    Thats great that a company 😀 takes care of there customers great job GPI for backing up your products and man I would have done the same due to tge parts are coming from well known company u don't think about can't wait to see the new build maybe some boost

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Definitely planning out future mods! And yes, very thankful they are taking care of me. Very few companies that would do that

  • @barrylimer3732
    @barrylimer3732 3 месяца назад +2

    EPA mandates on fuel consumption are the ultimate culprit here. Engineers are doing the best they can with unrealistic gas consumption standards on new vehicles as the years go by. One day EPA will try to ban gas vehicles altogether.

    • @re2248
      @re2248 Месяц назад

      They are already working on doing just that which is why the push for electric vehicles is so high. By 2035 they won't produce gas powered engines anymore. Careful who you vote for.

  • @MrRGiller
    @MrRGiller 3 года назад +6

    Well, that sucks as far as all of the extra work you have to do again. At least the company is taking care of you.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      Appreciate that. Yes, very thankful they are

  • @super20dan
    @super20dan 2 года назад +2

    the only solutuon to this AFM debacukle is for EVERYBODY to stop buying these trucks period! then mabey GM will do something instead of desighning a system that lasts long enough to get tru warranty periods

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 года назад +1

      Sadly Dodge has a similar system with lots of issues and I think Ford just implemented a similar system.

  • @billthompson9595
    @billthompson9595 3 года назад +5

    Very sorry to hear of the issue and trouble. Hopefully the supplier will go good for it. All the best.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Thanks man! Much appreciated. They are helping us out. We will have an update on a couple of weeks

  • @maxhenry1977
    @maxhenry1977 3 года назад

    What a great opportunity to put a 6.2 in your truck 👍

  • @colt2206
    @colt2206 Год назад

    This why I don’t mess around with these mod’s people recommend on RUclips. Leave it factory and spend your money on maintenance using factory parts. Don’t modify it and leave it stock. All I did was put the deal on mine when new that keeps it running in V8 only. It plugs into port and can be removed at anytime without being permanent or modifying anything. Works perfectly and it always stays in V8 mode so I don’t have to worry about lubrication to valve train

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Год назад

      These were all factory OEM parts (except for the cam shaft of course) everything are GM parts. Was just sent the wrong ones. And definitely recommend using a range device but many have still reported the failure running the plugins sadly.

  • @kevinmoyle6098
    @kevinmoyle6098 3 года назад +1

    Trunyenes how do you spell that? Sorry folks can't spell. Did you give them vin? Crazy s__t! Cast iron any thing gose back when. Man im getting older 😄 hey just got a 64. The good old fashioned stuff. Only thing upgraded points electric module. Eazy pezy? Again sorry my phone won't let me sell Easy- P Z oh got it haha.

  • @n5yiz
    @n5yiz 3 года назад +1

    It's going to be hard to place blame....seems like a very easy mistake to make.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Definitely as easy mistake. Hopefully it will prevent someone else from running into the same issue!

  • @ImNotHereToArgueFacts
    @ImNotHereToArgueFacts 10 месяцев назад +1

    I watched the video where you had all the new parts on a table. I did notice you had the 6.2 l intake w/ rectangle ports. Did original heads have that? Guess I'll try to go back and see.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  9 месяцев назад +1

      I'll have to go back and look at well. Good eye tho

  • @dexter9024
    @dexter9024 Год назад +1

    Are you in mn? I'm trying to find a guy from a couple years ago, PM me if you are thx!

  • @nhabibhabib2135
    @nhabibhabib2135 2 года назад +1

    You got me confused if there is that much difference you will not be able to put them together all the screw will not work that mean the engine size totally different guess what? I put the VLOM on the Yukon denali and it comes on both engine on 5.3 & 6.2 all the screw worked perfectly.

  • @speedcircuit
    @speedcircuit 3 года назад +3

    So in other words, you're going to sleeve and bore the motor out to 102mm now?
    :D

  • @texasfan8892
    @texasfan8892 3 года назад +2

    This video actually gives me a lot of hope because I was sitting here thinking that even if I were to get an AFM/DFM disabler for a 6.2 v8, considering that I'm thinking about getting a 2022 silverado for my next vehicle purchase, that I would still have lifter failure. Sucks that this happened of course but at least it was an issue with the wrong parts being sent and not an internal design flaw with the engine itself.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Agreed! Since I got all the correct parts, I'm at about 11K miles with 0 issues.

  • @danlazar901
    @danlazar901 Год назад +1

    so, it wasn't the AFM deletion that caused the issue..(as the video header shows)??

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Год назад

      Well it happened during the deletion process which is why we said the afm delete went wrong. But if we had gotten the correct parts, there would have been no issue :)

  • @LJK69187
    @LJK69187 2 года назад +4

    Thank You guys for putting this series together!!!

  • @Sherman62
    @Sherman62 Год назад +1

    So this really had nothing to do with AFM delete, but rather the intake valves were .165" too large in diameter. I wonder if you could find a 6.2 liter shortblock to go with those heads.....

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Год назад

      We may put them on Pete's Vette if we can get it repaired.

  • @juniorpineda4151
    @juniorpineda4151 3 года назад +1

    Holly shit get to the point lol

  • @juliewalsh9525
    @juliewalsh9525 Год назад +2

    great video. Nothing better than being able to trace everything back so well. Damn shame though! I bet you’ll measure every head and cylinder in the future now though, I know I sure will! Great feeling too when u finally find the problem and it wasn’t your fault. Makes having to do an engine swap a much more enjoyable experience IMO lol How many miles did you get in it with the 6.0 head?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Год назад

      Lol agreed, would have been nicer if it didn't happen. I honestly forget, not more that 1/4 mile at most. It was still running ok somehow lol

    • @stoney92279
      @stoney92279 Год назад

      ⁵⁵⁵⁵55þc❤😂ć😢😢

  • @DiyAllaroundguy
    @DiyAllaroundguy Год назад +2

    Your definitely a whollllle lot calmer than most people would be after making this video 😂

  • @rodpalm6398
    @rodpalm6398 3 года назад +2

    GPI IMO F'ed up big time, they owe you an engine.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      They are helping out a lot. Update in the next video 👍👍

    • @johngray2526
      @johngray2526 3 года назад

      Agree but I wouldn't have another one if I'd have to go threw this again besides buy one wit 4 cylinder and one wit 8 cylinder eliminates the AFM or am I missing something here 😂

  • @sawfather06
    @sawfather06 2 года назад +1

    Wow the dealer screwed u that sucks

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 года назад

      Yeah it was a bummer :( but they took care of it at least. Just a lot of lost time for sure

  • @Stevenscorp
    @Stevenscorp 4 месяца назад

    I’ve got a 6.2 liter in my shop right now and I’ve done brand new afm lifters. Timing is correct but now I am having a lifter tick issue. This engine has left a bad taste for chevys for me. I’d rather throw an old 350 in which is what I’m going to do.

  • @westcoast8506
    @westcoast8506 7 месяцев назад +1

    Get to the point 3:30 I’m out

  • @gregory2622
    @gregory2622 3 года назад +1

    My trk was exactly like yours and same year .Had 99 thou for miles.Dealer gave me 22 thou for a trade in on a 2020 SILVERADO. Love the new trks Alot better.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      I like the new ones a lot. I'll eventually get one but sticking with this one for now

    • @Brutepaintballer
      @Brutepaintballer 3 года назад

      Pretty good trade in $$$!

  • @dwightlooi
    @dwightlooi 6 месяцев назад

    If they sent you the wrong heads and it damaged your motor, they owe you not just new heads but a motor.
    The the minimum, I'll expect them to rebuild your motor at their expense.
    A new crate motor will be preferable and more expedient. They can have your motor back as a core.

  • @luisdias5132
    @luisdias5132 3 года назад +2

    Love your videos sorry for the bad news at least it's a good Learning lesson hopefully it works out well you get that Kick-Ass truck running again

  • @seanfrank4158
    @seanfrank4158 3 года назад +1

    Wow. That is terrible news. Easy mistake to make I think though. I wonder if someone out there will build a crate motor without all this AMF/DOD crap installed and we could swap directly into our GM trucks without going through all the rigmarole....

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +2

      Hmmm sounds like a good business opportunity for us with a core charge 🤔

  • @JesseMartinez-xj5nn
    @JesseMartinez-xj5nn Месяц назад

    Dang that totally sucks bro but looking forward to a new video showing us that you got a free engine to make up for it 😁
    Wouldn’t that be nice!

  • @Kuzican01
    @Kuzican01 3 года назад +2

    At 5:16 it actually looks like torch marks on that 6.2l head where it was blowing past the head gasket and so forth. That's too bad all this hard work you guys put into this project ends up costing you an entire engine because of head differences. Thanks for putting this video out and looking forward to your next video.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Yeah, really a bummer knowing my truck could have been up and running if it had just been the right part :(

  • @onelove8810001
    @onelove8810001 8 месяцев назад

    Sucks you did all that work and didn’t double check the heads . Ouch ouch ouch
    But hey we live and learn , crappy we must fail to learn some very valuable lessons

  • @Ozzy920
    @Ozzy920 11 месяцев назад +1

    check your part numbers, very well noted, i will be replacing my trunions too

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  10 месяцев назад

      Absolutely

    • @Ozzy920
      @Ozzy920 10 месяцев назад +1

      really like the content, currently rebuilding some ej25 and a 5.3, id like to grow my own
      channel to the level your at down here in el paso tx be safe out there @@TheSundaeDrive

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  10 месяцев назад

      Nice man! Lot of work but with it for sure

  • @knjpollard
    @knjpollard 2 года назад +1

    I delete my AFM by disabling it in the ECU

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 года назад

      Doesn't remove the lifter issue. It helps for sure as they aren't activating but still have seen numerous owners have the failure.

  • @dustyfarmer
    @dustyfarmer 2 месяца назад

    I take it you didn't spin the motor over by hand a few revolutions after assembly to see if everything was happy?

  • @Pugsandhugs94
    @Pugsandhugs94 6 месяцев назад

    Now will they compensate you because you installed the heads without verifying it was the correct part?

  • @52felix87
    @52felix87 9 месяцев назад

    I don’t get how u stuck heads on without knowing the cast number on them 🤦‍♂️

  • @jeffreyhagelin3672
    @jeffreyhagelin3672 Месяц назад

    In other words, you were responsible for unauthorized modifications.

  • @juanalbertomontiel3243
    @juanalbertomontiel3243 Год назад +1

    My mechanic is doing the same for my Yukon , thank you for sharing your experience and I will ask my mechanic to double confirm heads P/N

  • @arthurrodesiler3109
    @arthurrodesiler3109 Год назад +1

    As you get older stuff like this old real fast. Leave it stock and do maintenance. Messing around with stuff like this with electronic stuff turns into nightmare more often than not.

  • @clintburt9821
    @clintburt9821 3 года назад +1

    They should pay for your new motor yeah you should have checked the part numbers but you ordered under the assumption that it was right they should have to pay for a whole new engine

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      They did :) fantastic customer service and owned up to it immediately

  • @wkeil1981
    @wkeil1981 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow that’s fucking wild

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  9 месяцев назад

      It was a fun experience to say the least

  • @jeffstinson4006
    @jeffstinson4006 3 года назад +1

    Why did you change the heads what were wrong with the factory heads all you had to do is change to an LS7 style lifter with your cam and delete kit

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      I wanted to make more power while I was already in there. Seemed like a good idea. Not required for sure.

  • @GrumpyGenXGramps
    @GrumpyGenXGramps 3 года назад +1

    Running the motor for FIVE HOURS after hearing a contact noise like that, that follows the speed of the motor, didn’t help matters either! I was cringing in the last video every time I heard them revving up the motor and hearing that noise! Then when he said a total of 5 hours driving and running the engine to find the noise, I harnessed my netherworld psychic super hero abilities and said, “he just fucked his motor”....
    I’ve gotten SO much work from guys that have ignored or ran and revved their engines because they where trying to find a grinding or clunking or clicking noise! Do yourself a favor, shut an engine down as soon as you hear ANY significant engine noise and by God,, do NOT sit there REVVING it up or driving it around for FIVE HOURS! Unless you’ve got money to burn, don’t care or are just totally oblivious to what a “bad sound” from a motor is!

    • @GrumpyGenXGramps
      @GrumpyGenXGramps 3 года назад

      That might be the issue GPI will try to use to avoid replacing your motor.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      Lesson learned for sure. We were so confident we had done everything correctly was the only reason we kept trying but in hindsight it was definitely a bad idea to keep it running

  • @jud3586
    @jud3586 3 года назад +1

    He spent over $2k just in heads, and now they completely screwed his engine. So much money lost here, very sad.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Mostly time lost rather than money but yea it is unfortunate. The company provided us with the parts needed to get it back to good running condition. Good news is, it’s back and running better than ever so at least it’s behind us.

  • @lmontano1
    @lmontano1 Год назад +1

    So the only 6.2 parts that you had on that engine was the intake and the throttle body? The 6.2 heads were a mistake?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Год назад

      Correct. I ordered 5.3 heads and they sent us 6.2 heads which we didn't realize until too late with how similar they look.

  • @picturemerollin21401
    @picturemerollin21401 2 года назад +1

    What did you replace the engine with? I'm dealing with issues myself having to replace the engine in my 2008 tahoe. I'm trying to figure the route to go. Head gasket and no compression i guess the engines a mess inside my mechanic said when he looked in with a camera. Worst luck ever lol no dk what to do.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 года назад +1

      I used another used 5.3L with fewer miles.

  • @memov5867
    @memov5867 3 года назад +2

    The suspense of what happens next is killing me! I’m definitely subscribing. GPI has amazing customer service. I’m sure they will make it up to you

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      The next video is almost done. Update will be up soon!

  • @jeffchristian9917
    @jeffchristian9917 3 года назад

    I just did the afm disabled through obd port. Not go this route on my daily for this reason.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      Easier and less likely to fail if you caught it early. Still can and likely will fail in the long term tho. The issue in our video was due to a wrong part but the delete itself tho

  • @bettyg7710
    @bettyg7710 10 месяцев назад

    Doesn’t the 6.2L heads have a different valve arrangement than the 5.3L ? The 5.3 e I I eerie e. We’re the the 6.2 is eieieiei ?

  • @petebach7221
    @petebach7221 2 года назад +1

    Wow. Sucks to be you. Good luck with getting an engine from the machine shop.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 года назад

      It was a fun experience - new engine in and up and running with over 20K miles on it :) no issues

  • @vongillman
    @vongillman 3 года назад +2

    Well that sucks !!!
    Yes young jet-eye... measure twice
    Torque once .✌️

  • @kennethalbert4653
    @kennethalbert4653 2 года назад +1

    Pro Tip !!
    When you start a gas engine and it sounds like a diesel.
    Shut it off ! Do not drive it hoping it will go away !

  • @TownerBruce
    @TownerBruce 3 года назад

    Hey man love the videos, I’m wondering if there’s a manual that guides you through all this that I could look atop something that you would recommend?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Thanks! Glad you have been enjoying them. We linked to a Corvette dod delete guide in the description that was pretty helpful to us.

  • @arthurrodesiler3109
    @arthurrodesiler3109 Год назад +1

    Really they owe you a complete new motor and labor for this mess up they did.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Год назад

      While we lost a lot of time in diagnosing and man hours to get the issue resolved, we think GPI did good to us overall so we are thankful for them

  • @Titian92
    @Titian92 2 года назад

    That’s really bad that they didn’t pay attention to part numbers.

  • @Echoepic95
    @Echoepic95 6 месяцев назад

    When i buy parts i have to triple check part number and cross references

  • @grizzlystiks
    @grizzlystiks 3 года назад +1

    Wow....That sucks just a simple mistake would cause all that bummer.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      Yes, it was a pain but we finally got it resolved!

  • @alfredomendoza8239
    @alfredomendoza8239 Год назад

    I just ordered 12620214 heads for my truck 5.3 how would I check to make sure it’s not a 6.2 and is in fact 5.3 ? Does 6.2 have different number or is it the same ?

  • @91toyotapickup1
    @91toyotapickup1 2 года назад +1

    man dont feel bad, as a tech of 18 years. we just had a 2014 l83 die from a cheap ass lifter that literally exploded and blew the roller apart on a stage 1 TSP camshaft

    • @91toyotapickup1
      @91toyotapickup1 2 года назад

      for the record we bought "good parts" but got chinese junk instead be careful

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 года назад

      aww man that stinks! It is so hard to know what you are getting these days even when you buy from a reputable source. Sometimes they get bad stuff and don't even know it until it blows up an engine. That is very frustrating for sure

  • @TheMrmmkkpro
    @TheMrmmkkpro Год назад

    That sucks and looks expensive.
    My 2015 6.2 Silverado at 117k just collapsed.
    I'm old school have built countless engines, but never a LS or LT, so my first go around is coming. GM wants 4k bucks to redo the bad side, they will not put a regular cam and lifters in, I refuse to go back to AFM.
    So I'm doing the delete myself. I'm watching every video I can, a crash course. Kinda nervous, but confident I can make it better than stock for a lot less cash.
    Thanks for posting this, going to check out your earlier work also. 👍👍

  • @Mr.Beastforpresident
    @Mr.Beastforpresident 3 года назад +2

    Great videos! I have a question, when taking the original engine apart did you notice any excessive Carbon build up on the intake valves from the direct injection?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Glad you are enjoying them! I did not but I've also been running a catch can for the last 60K miles or so (108K miles total)

    • @Mr.Beastforpresident
      @Mr.Beastforpresident 3 года назад

      The Sundae Drive I believe if I’m not mistaken after 2016+ GM revised the intake and PVC system.
      I put a catch can on my old 6.0 LY6 with 541,000+ miles then took it off after a couple days, as being so used of the truck I felt the engine wasn’t running optimally and vacuum had lowered.
      In a sense/ to put it another way, sort of like a normal size straw on a drink being lengthen to 4 times it’s length it takes more vacuum to pull up the liquid as gravity and the weight of the liquid itself wanting to go back in the cup.
      The straw representing the extra hose and length required for the catch can.
      Vacuum is essential for helping seal, and keep in place front and rear main seals.
      I honestly believe manufactures do not put catch cans for a reason. Otherwise it would be simple to write it off as a maintenance item like oil filters, fuel filters, air filters etc...
      My option is that of, if a catch can was essential on a stock engine the factory would put it, as there’s too much on the line. Heck a Hellcat doesn’t even have one.
      I know the Silverados had AFM issues but, I believe people aren’t fully aware of the updates/upgrades in 2016 to the AFM Solenoids and updated AC Delco Dexos 1 GEN 2 oil specifically formulated for AFM issues.
      I personally know 4 people with 2016-2018 Silverados with 200,000+ mile with no AFM issues and they aren’t using the new formulated oil. Now they all had injector issues and replaced but, I personally believe and pretty much know they’re not running Top-Tier quality fuels such as Chevron, Exxon, Shell etc...
      Anyhow, just thought I’d share some insight. I can go on and on and on, on anything Automobile related. Also, I’ll tell you something you may not know but, will appreciate because you’ll know what I’m talking about.
      The best oil filter for these engines are Ac Delco, there’s better filtering filters out there but you sacrifice flow for filtration big time. Essentially putting a strain on the oil pump in 3 ways with a ‘ high end ‘ oil filter.
      1) The filter media and or ‘ more ‘ pleats are more restrictive depending on what filter is in comparison to an Ac Delco ‘ E’ filter
      2)The outlet, ( inside the center of the oil filter ) on high end filters have much smaller diameter openings on the center tube compared to the bigger openings on the plastic center tube on the AC Delco 46E filters.
      3)The spring for the bypass valve is too strong on high end filters, meaning when the filter is semi clogged along with trying to push oil through the more restrictive smaller outlet, the oil pump then instead of pushing down a ( thin leaf weaker valve spring like on the Ac Delco filter ) must now push down on a stronger coil spring found on all high end filters.

  • @johnharris6181
    @johnharris6181 3 года назад +1

    Wow . Document part numbers. Assume definitely makes an Ass out of you and me. Love your honesty. Thanks. Very helpful.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Yup we should have known better than to assume it was the correct part 😓

  • @themadmachinist8637
    @themadmachinist8637 3 года назад

    I'm curious how he clearance issue wasn't discovered before first start up? I always rotate the engine at every stage. Add a part rotate just to make sure. That way if you run into an issue you don't have to dig far for the culprit. I'm not trying to play holier than thou or anything, it just seems like an odd thing to overlook. Tough luck on the engine though. It always sucks to finish a build and have disaster strike. Hope the rebuild goes well man.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      I did rotate it by hand many times before putting it in but it wasn't fast enough to hear the issue and there surprisingly wasn't much resistance :(

    • @themadmachinist8637
      @themadmachinist8637 3 года назад +1

      @@TheSundaeDrive Might have been just close enough that there was no interference until the lifters fully primed. Just curious. I work on these often, This is something I'll have to keep an eye out for. Just in case. Thanks for sharing man. You wouldn't believe how much youtube has expanded my knowledge base. It's a community service you guys are doing. I really appreciate the work you put into it.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Glad it is helping man! Hopefully you never run into this issue!

    • @themadmachinist8637
      @themadmachinist8637 3 года назад +1

      @@TheSundaeDrive knock on wood lol. Hope your rebuild goes smooth.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Thanks! It is in progress

  • @regentsuper3086
    @regentsuper3086 3 года назад

    I'm really sorry for that extremely Big and Hard working Job Buddy,
    All U was need to try
    RANGE device
    And next very, very important::: "
    each oil change)= very expensive fully synthetic Oil, Bottle Lucas synthetic Lube , and often Oil change, not longer then 3,500 k miles , Lifter will last till engine makes 350.000 miles

  • @kellyappel3015
    @kellyappel3015 2 года назад

    And that is the world we live in today. So many people have taken it upon themselves to think they can build a motor that thousands and thousands of these "performance aftermarket specialist" shops have opened up. Most of this stuff is built cheap, with cheap labor. Hopefully you get some good support from the people you ordered from.
    On a side note, if you're offended by my opening statements, consider this: ALL engine builders (professional or not) who KNOW what they're doing will ALWAYS gently rotate the crankshaft over after each step in the build. Had that been done, there is no doubt this would have been avoided.
    He learned the hard way that you CANNOT trust anyone to be competent these days, and you had better learn to check and double check everything.

  • @xSxEcuuadorxLx
    @xSxEcuuadorxLx 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is the video the made me a subscribe, your honesty. Good job sir

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  9 месяцев назад

      I appreciate that! Welcome aboard!

  • @bobbyhill1248
    @bobbyhill1248 Год назад +1

    So done change heads got 😂😂😂

  • @austinalsobrook
    @austinalsobrook 2 года назад +1

    Dont know if i missed it or what, but do you have to change the heads on this delete? Just wanted new heads or can you re use the old heads and just replace lifters/valves? Thanks for the vids and info. Looking into doing this on my 08 sierra with 5.3

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 года назад +1

      You can reuse your old heads. I was just looking for more power while I was already in there.

    • @austinalsobrook
      @austinalsobrook 2 года назад +1

      @@TheSundaeDrive thanks! Im just looking to delete the afm and hopefully keep the truck running for a long time and keep it stock or factory.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 года назад +1

      Sounds like a good plan to me! The guys at gpi can help you spec everything out!

  • @lynheydt3304
    @lynheydt3304 3 года назад +1

    If there is one thing I learned in all the years of working on cars after market is not always the hot setup. Hope the pay for a new short block.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      They helped us out thankfully! Always need to double check for sure. These were OEM ported heads.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Yeah, I think the videos helped a lot

  • @alfenner3309
    @alfenner3309 Год назад

    Curious.. There is the manual way to not use the AFM. I think it is M5, but needs to be done everytime the truck is fired up. Is this the reason you were wanting to delere/disable? The pain of doing it everytime you get in the truck.
    Thanks.

  • @The0utmode
    @The0utmode 3 месяца назад

    Just put a gen 1 sbc in it problem solved!

  • @chasejarvis7788
    @chasejarvis7788 9 месяцев назад

    i tell you what needs to happen since it was their fault send you an entire new engine without you paying a dime for it. if i had a a 2009 Chevy Silverado and if they sent me the wrong part i would not cut those people any slack i would demand that they would send me a new engine entirely. If they want the damaged engine back have them pay for the shipping cost since it was their fault.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  9 месяцев назад

      Check out part 2. You'll be happy to hear that they did

  • @MaxTune
    @MaxTune 3 года назад

    If you’re in the Atlanta area. I disable the dod feature Monday thru Friday.

  • @joshradcliff6912
    @joshradcliff6912 8 месяцев назад

    Hopefully they are replacing the motor.

  • @cletustollery6914
    @cletustollery6914 Год назад

    If they made good on parts, threw ya a few a few shirts and learned something... it's all good! Amazing what old school guys can do! Hopefully ya got their prototype "whipass" version before anyone else!

  • @jhendren0001
    @jhendren0001 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video,,,, sorry about the bad news but thank you for posting this for all of us so if there's anything to learn please eveyone not only check part numbers but this kind of damage could be prevented by just taking a few extra minutes to measure things and be sure the parts are right ,hey everyone makes mistakes and things like those heads are so similar its really hard to tell the difference, cant wait to see this back together and on the road again👍👍

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      Appreciate that and very good points! I hope it helps others prevent mistakes in the future! I've learned my lesson for sure.

  • @mikescaffo4850
    @mikescaffo4850 7 месяцев назад

    You video was great the first time well done sorry it didn't work out but shit happens

  • @stevenstair1068
    @stevenstair1068 Год назад +1

    I installed the Range Solution and now it stays in 4cyl and very happy now..

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Год назад

      4cyl mode only? Must be getting great gas mileage :)

    • @stevenstair1068
      @stevenstair1068 Год назад +1

      @@TheSundaeDrive yes best I got with the 5.3 is 29.2... I also have one that stays in 8cly mode when I pull my camper and I get 12 without camper 22..

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Год назад

      Nice!

  • @bendino9016
    @bendino9016 3 года назад +1

    shoulda just bought a nice LSx or 454 big block...

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад

      Lol I could for sure.

    • @bendino9016
      @bendino9016 3 года назад

      @@TheSundaeDrive my dream power train has to be a pushrod v8 and 6l80/6l90. It just feels right to me.

  • @chopper1168
    @chopper1168 2 года назад +1

    Love the honesty of your video and it was very helpful.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  2 года назад +1

      Glad to help! No point in hiding the mistakes. We are all here to learn together!

  • @Restructmusic
    @Restructmusic 3 года назад

    Well, what you did wrong was not get your heads set up from a machine shop with the vin for your motor. They could have ordered you the correct parts. Then if that happens, they own it. Ive built many motors myself and I don't mess around with compatibility. Every mistake I've ever made was one like this. Sorry that happened.

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  3 года назад +1

      Fortunetely, GPI still owned it and replaced the parts and my motor for free. I had ordered the right ones but the wrong ones were sent. Definitely a huge pain in the butt since I had to do the job twice and didn't have my truck for a long time but I'm just thankful they replaced everything for me. It's always a challenge to find a good local machine shop but appreciate the feedback and suggestion!

  • @patrickwarden2933
    @patrickwarden2933 8 месяцев назад

    Wow wrong parts always hurt

  • @arcedias
    @arcedias Год назад

    Question fer ya! Once I disable the AFM should I replace the AFM style lifters with regular lifters. If so what lifter assembly would you recommend. Cam replacement as well?

    • @TheSundaeDrive
      @TheSundaeDrive  Год назад +1

      So if you are just tuning out afm with a range device or something similar, you should not change the lifters. Only change the lifters with a new cam. You will also need several other parts and you will need a tune for that new camshaft and lifters from a custom tuner.