EP7: Is HARRY Blaming The WRONG Parent? The Housekeeper’s Diary

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    • The Housekeeper's Diar...
    This is episode 7 in my review of The Housekeeper's Diary by Wendy Berry!
    In this chapter, we are introduced to James Hewitt for the first time as he starts teaching Prince William and Prince Harry how to ride a horse.
    He is a frequent guest at Highgrove and all the staff are a little concerned.
    We hear about the tragic accident that claimed the life of Prince Charle's equerry and the awful impact that had on all the survivors.
    A fascinating first-hand account of the relationship between the then Prince Charles and Princess Diana in 1988.
    #princeharry #princessdiana #jameshewitt #highgrove
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  • @thevintageread
    @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +53

    If you are NEW to this series, welcome! Here are all the episodes so far: The Housekeeper's Diary By Wendy Berry - Book Review
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    • @sc3942
      @sc3942 6 месяцев назад +5

      Really enjoying your channel which I've just found today. Watched all of the previous videos on this book. I'm also called Shauna ... and I seriously don't know many of us!

  • @ericaknesek3266
    @ericaknesek3266 6 месяцев назад +261

    I’ve always thought that the anger hairy shows toward his father is unresolved feelings of anger of his mother

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +41

      I wonder…it seems misdirected to me.

    • @blesmac
      @blesmac 6 месяцев назад +41

      exactly, because his mother is dead he is unable to be angry with her so he directs his anger to the living

    • @ptrpan61
      @ptrpan61 6 месяцев назад +30

      Yes. I've often felt that Harry's anger is misplaced, his anger is towards his mother.

    • @knn6215
      @knn6215 6 месяцев назад +30

      Agree. In my opinion he was angry at her long before the accident in Paris and when she died there was no chance for him to get what he wanted from her which was her undivided attention.

    • @esmekaffen4961
      @esmekaffen4961 6 месяцев назад +33

      And didn’t Harry refuse to talk to his mum the last time she called before she died?

  • @BuntyMcB
    @BuntyMcB 6 месяцев назад +478

    I remember reading years ago that William was asked, in an interview, about any embarrassing moments with his Dad. He said “my father never embarrasses but my mother does”. To use her boys as a mask for her frequent meetings with her ‘special friend’ is despicable imo.

    • @myway3203
      @myway3203 6 месяцев назад +73

      And as well take two boys on Dodi's father Yacht where was and Dodi and not taking care in front of boys her behavior with Dodi is speechless. William was that one who asked to go back home and stop holiday. Diana bring them home, spend them to Charles, and turn back to Yacht where happen that famous kiss and picture of that kiss fly all over the world. Brilliant behavior mother of future UK king isn't it?

    • @krishnavyas313
      @krishnavyas313 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@myway3203
      william was 15 years old and if she hadn't died few days after then boys at Eton would have teased him after summer brake.
      William was huge rugby fan and Diana had fling with rugby player Will carling and she also introduced him to Will carling.
      Will carling's wife divorced him and midea started calling Diana homewrecker.
      William was so embarrassed by all of this lost his interest in rugby.
      Then Diana gave panorama interview to transfer her homewrecker title to camila.
      When william find out her mother is giving Interview to BBC he asked her what is interview about? She lied and said, it's about charity work.
      Because she was paranoid that william might tell truth to his father or grandparents.
      William was at Eton when that interview aired and william thought it's about charitable work, and watched it with his friends. William was furious and very embarrassed by it and locked himself in his room and he didn't talk to Diana for weeks after that interview. He also told her interview was the stupidest thing she has ever done.
      After this interview people started questioning who is Harry's real father.
      Harry's class mates must have bullied him about this subject many times.

    • @rmanning2750
      @rmanning2750 6 месяцев назад +12

      Never embarrassed them? Really? The fact that his dad was carrying on with his mistress openly and everyone knows must be embarrassing and hurtful on him so many times on behalf on him and his mother. You definitely can't judge Diana introducing the guy to the boys. It's presumptuous of you to say they are having affairs (maybe) with the riding instructor; women should be allowed to have men-friends without being accused of having an affair. I feel for Diana- she must be so lonely and feel unloved and I am surprised that she wants validation from men.

    • @BuntyMcB
      @BuntyMcB 6 месяцев назад +75

      @@rmanning2750 William’s words, not mine about his mother embarrassing him. Her affair with the riding instructor was public knowledge.

    • @myway3203
      @myway3203 6 месяцев назад +46

      @@rmanning2750 women who have kids and family around never can't be lonely. Except if explicitly she think that only man in very special relationship can fulfill her loneliness. One thing is to have very good friend in man, completely different to have lover and using a children like umbrella for covering that. Charles how ever someone think about him never take a children to cover his meeting with Camila. Even later on , after Diana died, he take a long time to introduce Camila to his sons.

  • @heatherprice588
    @heatherprice588 4 месяца назад +31

    Thank you for the truth I am so sick of reading about Saint Diana, which she wasn't.

  • @kittyG-kq5ib
    @kittyG-kq5ib 6 месяцев назад +87

    To this day many of the public still think Diana was a saint, mostly those who were still very young and not even born when Diana died, but those of us who were grown ups could see how loving Diana was, but also how manipulative she was and she could be nasty. She made out Charles to be a unloving father, who never played with the children, of course we can all see from footage that this is not true. Diana had problems before she joined the Royal family due to her own family dynamics she was never the right wife for Charles. Diana had multiple affairs, but considering she wanted the world to feel sorry for her due to Camilla, Diana did not think or care about the wife’s of many of her lovers, who were also married. Diana had many good qualities, but she was also very flawed and those many flaws, I see in her son Harry.

    • @ABC1701A
      @ABC1701A 5 месяцев назад +7

      The worst part was when she complained about a ''third'' in the marriage it wasn't even Camilla she was talking about but the boy's nanny (Tiggy Legg or something like that was her name). She even accused her of getting pregnant and having an abortion with Charles' baby - totally false. I think she sued the media that reported on that claim and won her case but it was only settled relatively recently.

    • @abbatrouble
      @abbatrouble 4 месяца назад +7

      I saw a photograph of Diana hugging her sons when she and Charles returned from a trip. Many years later I saw another picture of Charles enthusiastically hugging his sons that same day but the press only published the Diana hugs. She made money for the newspapers and they paid her back by covering up her affairs.

    • @jleechadwick
      @jleechadwick 2 месяца назад +2

      @@ABC1701A I agree. She tipped the paparazzi off that she and Dodi were leaving the Ritz and driving to his apartment. If she hadn't done that, might she still be alive? Also, that summer, she spent most of it with Dodi Fayed. Maybe she should have spent it with her boys. If she had stayed in England that summer, maybe she would still be alive. I do think that she bad mouthed Charles to the boys too, and that should never have been done. Kids have every right to love both their parents.

    • @ABC1701A
      @ABC1701A 2 месяца назад

      @@jleechadwick Totally agree, but if she'd only worn a seatbelt on that last fatal drive it wouldn't necessarily have been fatal either. But allegedly neither she nor Dodi liked wearing seatbelts (a crime in France and you do get pulled over if seen) as I gather it stopped them 'canoodling' in the back seats. Pride goes before a fall and it certainly did on that evening. Harry is much too like his mother (which might be why he gets the extra mile from his family, they certainly knew what his mother was like and her mental state and he seems to be very much like her with the paranoia and similar antics) and I've a very nasty feeling that neither he nor Meghan are going to be around when those kids are older. Possibly the best thing for the kids though as long as they go to Harry's family and NOT to Meghans (her family are no different to her either, everything has to be played out in the full media glare on the world stage for some reason, not sure if it's a lifetime in Hollyweird or some personality fault but either way it's unnecessary).

    • @nretik
      @nretik 14 дней назад +1

      @abbatrouble I heard Robert Dobson to say some months ago that the boys ran to Charles for a hug as enthusiastically as they ran to Diana, but photographers were not as interested.
      I think that the editor were not interested bc such pictures with Charles would rain on their favorite narrative for ads revenues of St Diana vs Charles the villain.

  • @marniehall7419
    @marniehall7419 6 месяцев назад +34

    I’ve never bought into the saint diana story line nor that Charles was a bad cold parent. This chapter confirms much.

  • @jasminebean5762
    @jasminebean5762 6 месяцев назад +402

    I find this examples of terrible parenting, it seems Prince William has turned his childhood trauma, with the help of Princess Catherine into a positive, ensuring their children have as normal and loving childhood as possible.
    While Harry, with the help of his wife has turned the trauma into rage, hate and jealousy against his family, the UK media, country and it's people. I worry for their children growing up in a bubble, cut off from any sort of normal life or interactions and support from a wider family circle. Growing up with their titles in the US puts targets on their backs for bullying while young and ridicule when adults.

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +31

      Yes, it seems like all the things you shouldn’t do! However it is offset by lots of affection from Diana so the boys at least had that. Heartbreaking situation for everyone! 💔

    • @edd9032
      @edd9032 6 месяцев назад +44

      Yes I agree, it's a matter of wives between these two brothers which makes one into a productive decent human being. Kudos to Catherine Middleton and her stable caring upbringing by both her parents shaping her formative years, as the saying goes; "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree"

    • @terryanderson7545
      @terryanderson7545 6 месяцев назад

      Harry was a loser before he married, it was just covered up. A good wife may have helped him but he was already on the path to destruction before megain lit him on fire to hasten the trip.

    • @milliway2010
      @milliway2010 6 месяцев назад +33

      When he was at Eton Prince William also met with HMTQ on a regular bias, who was tutoring him on becoming king and he escaped whatever daily drama was swirling around Harry.

    • @Cooksongrl
      @Cooksongrl 6 месяцев назад +36

      Sadly neither Charles or Diana had a normal upbringing so all they knew was drama. This is exactly why it's so important William chose Catherine to sort of end the generations of aristocratic mess.

  • @MsGuppie2010
    @MsGuppie2010 6 месяцев назад +314

    I agree that Duana should not have brought Hewit into the prince's lives. Sometimes Diana could be so obtuse and selfish.

    • @lizamartin4705
      @lizamartin4705 6 месяцев назад +10

      I agree but she was in her early 29's. We all did dumb things like this at that age even during divorce/custody battles that later when we matured and looked back on and thought was dumb.

    • @lizroberts1569
      @lizroberts1569 6 месяцев назад +41

      She pursued and harassed married men, she tried to break up marriages and had numerous affairs, she could have had affairs but boy she wasn’t discreet.

    • @myway3203
      @myway3203 6 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@lizamartin4705 sorry if someone in 29's make some dumb things just mean that is Peter Pann character and that never will not grow up. To me it's not normal that women, mother on her position make those dumb things.

    • @myway3203
      @myway3203 6 месяцев назад +10

      She was always selfish without thinking about conference for her Imiditly family that can bring.

    • @joanneolsen5635
      @joanneolsen5635 6 месяцев назад

      @@myway3203❤

  • @kathyprime5430
    @kathyprime5430 6 месяцев назад +105

    Whats interesting is that this book was banned in UK. Of course we haven't got to the end but it certainly sheds different light on Diana. Say as much as you like about Charles and the palace but they preserved Diana's public persona, for the boys perhaps, but definetly at the detriment of Charles to be fair.

    • @susanmilos6251
      @susanmilos6251 6 месяцев назад +2

      👏

    • @sammymerrick9394
      @sammymerrick9394 5 месяцев назад +3

      I didn't realise this book was banned here in the UK...even more reason for me to listen in!😂

    • @abbatrouble
      @abbatrouble 4 месяца назад +1

      I believe that Charles is trying to protect his son and Hewitt's brat.

  • @graphiquejack
    @graphiquejack 6 месяцев назад +218

    I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again… Diana was a nightmare. No wonder Charles took up with Camilla again after trying to salvage a relationship with Diana and failing. I don’t let him off Scott free … he deserves his share of the blame, as do the senior royals who concocted this toxic mess, but Diana was a piece of work, omg.

    • @joan279
      @joan279 6 месяцев назад +14

      I'm not blaming only Charles, you're right both are to blame. But Charles was in his 30s and Diana was a teenager when they started dating. He'd already dated her sister Sarah so he had some knowledge of Diana's family history drama + trauma, and if Diana was a 'nightmare' - Charles appeared to be a spoilt, self-indulged, King-to-be who knew his own importance and expected to be treated as such 😮

    • @Anna_Key
      @Anna_Key 6 месяцев назад +26

      ​@@joan279 Charles had dated Diana's older sister, but that doesn't mean he had any idea about the family's situation behind the scenes. What it really shows is that the Spencer's wanted ANY of their girls to marry Charles. They've been trying to achieve Royalty for centuries. Diana also said she kept herself tidy to make sure she would be chosen.

    • @PS_testing321...
      @PS_testing321... 6 месяцев назад +17

      @@Anna_Key All of the aristocracy was aware of the Spencer drama. When her mother left it was scandalous. They also lived on the Sandringham estate prior to Diana's father becoming Earl and inheriting Althorp.

    • @Anna_Key
      @Anna_Key 6 месяцев назад +12

      @@PS_testing321... they were aware of bad behaviour publicly, but no way they were aware of any personality disorders. Few families face up to disorders etc in their own members, let alone make it known. Except for this latest generation, where it seems to be de rigeur to have kids with issues.
      My subjective feelings only.

    • @Celisar1
      @Celisar1 6 месяцев назад +19

      ⁠@@joan279of course “he knew his own importance and expected to be treated accordingly”.
      That’s how he was brought up, that’s who he is.
      Knowing your status doesn’t make you a bad person. Charles has always been quite down to earth and liked to interact with all sorts of people but nevertheless status is status and needs to be respected. It was not right by Diana trying to outshine the future king but she needed that validation.

  • @jennyhacking1289
    @jennyhacking1289 6 месяцев назад +257

    This book is an absolutely fascinating glimpse behind the scenes of Charles, and Diana's relationship.
    It reveals that there is much more to the story and there was fault on both sides.
    It also humanises them, it shows that Diana wasn't a saint, and Charles wasn't always cold and detached. Its sad how people will only see one side and not see that they were both flawed and deeply unhappy in their relationship.

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +31

      Yes I agree with everything you said!

    • @maggieswithenbank6709
      @maggieswithenbank6709 6 месяцев назад

      Yes! There’s never just black and white, nor saint and villain. There’s many shades of gray and the nuances that make each of us unique individuals. Never fell for the saint Diana and the cold Charles-that was the propaganda machine which still seems to be spewing the same garbage today.

    • @JFra127
      @JFra127 6 месяцев назад +37

      The media likes to pick a simplistic narrative and stick to it. They don’t cope with nuances and depth. Sadly we are still left with the Angel Diana and Devil Charles rhetoric. They were anything but simplistic; complex people in a complex situation.

    • @sarahhayse-gregson689
      @sarahhayse-gregson689 6 месяцев назад +20

      @@JFra127 whoever Diana married, there would be problems. Maybe had she not married so young might have had a chance. She certainly had her head in the clouds and too much of a romantic notion on relationships. Career wise she certainly wasn’t going anywhere so a “good” marriage was probably all she hoped for preferably a city person.

    • @myway3203
      @myway3203 6 месяцев назад

      Some people know to reading between lines and from very first day tell that Diana wasn't Angel. Before Captain she have affair with her bodyguard.

  • @lisajones4683
    @lisajones4683 6 месяцев назад +130

    This is fascinating. The press always seemed to report Diana as a fantastic parent, taking her boys to theme parks and going on the rides with them, whilst Charles was the remote, undemonstrative one. It’s almost like Harry has forgotten his childhood and is now believing the press’ narrative. Diana was emotionally manipulative and selfish in that regard I think. I think her own upbringing probably had a lot to do with that. At least Catherine has a stable, loving, supportive family and has broken that cycle with her children.

    • @pamelacox540
      @pamelacox540 6 месяцев назад +23

      Harry is reliving Markle’s idea of his childhood. He’s a dim, vengeful, jealous creep.

    • @patriciakelly5451
      @patriciakelly5451 5 месяцев назад +4

      You are right about Diana. There is a shot of Diana welcoming the boys on the Royal Yacht, she has her arms open so they could run into them. This was the second shot of that taken, as the first did not have the open arms.

    • @BetFarmer-te2lf
      @BetFarmer-te2lf 5 месяцев назад +5

      Is this the same one where William reached Diana first and Harry kicked William because he wasn’t first.

    • @ABC1701A
      @ABC1701A 5 месяцев назад +7

      Half or more of those visits were deliberately taken on weekends when the boys should have been spending time with their father (she did it deliberately and boasted about it) so there was an ulterior motive as well.

    • @1000paulineanne
      @1000paulineanne 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@BetFarmer-te2lf yes, that's the one. He's always been a bully

  • @madeyed2702
    @madeyed2702 6 месяцев назад +73

    Many people blamed Charles & Camilla for the marriage breakdown and let Diana off the hook easily. I think it is because Diana died prematurely, and she was charming, pretty and expert in playing the media. Coming from a divorced parents, I can say in most cases the blame are usually shared by the two parties. Diana can be immature and emotionally labile, and the more she behaved that way, the more it pushed Charles into his corner toward Camilla. They both just not meant to be. Glad that at last Charles able to have good relationship with his children (before H meet M).

  • @H1X2N4
    @H1X2N4 6 месяцев назад +32

    Harry admitted that it was only relatively recently that he figured James Hewitt wasn’t his biological father. He must have felt very resentful towards his mother and his mother’s affair with Hewitt to put him in this state of mind. Instead he transferred his resentment towards his father.

    • @marlenewolffe4613
      @marlenewolffe4613 3 месяца назад +3

      Harry really isn't too bright!

    • @Gaeliclass
      @Gaeliclass 14 дней назад

      @H1X2N4
      Charles constantly cracked jokes, insinuating that Harry was not his son. That's how the rumors were started, probably by Camilla and her cronies! Diana's affair with James Hewitt was 2 years after Harry was born, and well after Charles and Camilla's illicit affair but C&C were trying to deflect and put the spotlight on Diana. When she died, the pap/Rota went after her 12 year old boy. Shame, shame, shame.

  • @mrcury8014
    @mrcury8014 6 месяцев назад +43

    Great reads Shauna. Thank you. I think what we are all missing is that Harry was indeed an uncontrollable nightmare as a child. Remember a televised interview where Harry was running around all the furniture and would not do as he was told. She lost her cool with him on air He just totally ignored her. I believe that Gabor Matè's diagnosis of Harry with Adhd may well be correct. Lady C' s children played with the Wales when they were young and Harry was out of control and apparently very violent from pre- kindergarten days.
    You ask where the Royal parents are also of the Kents children, they would have been working Royals, visiting 3 or 4 places a day anywhere within the UK or the commonwealth. It would not be in their gift to take a day off because they had a sick child. It would draw criticism that they weren't doing their job. Diana likely would have preferred to take William who was more steady to the Polo, because I imagine she wanted to go in a bollinger tent to socialise with any of the males she had her eye on. William would be her excuse to get away. The more I hear of Diana, the less I like her, the more I sympathise with Charles.

    • @momz42
      @momz42 6 месяцев назад +2

      ADHD is usually outgrown in adults. He doesn’t seems that hyper at all. Js.

    • @mrcury8014
      @mrcury8014 3 месяца назад +2

      @momz42 I work with many adults who have had this diagnosis. It morphs sometimes onto the Autistic scale. Sometimes into other behavioural issues.

  • @DutchJoan
    @DutchJoan 6 месяцев назад +153

    Oh dear, this isn't flattering for Diana at all. I do believe Harry was more than two handfuls as a child, but he's been misused and by his own mother. What I don't understand is why the RF didn't bring in a specialist to advise about Harry. But whatever you do, never ever triangulate your children with an affair.

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +14

      I agree

    • @hazelholmshaw9415
      @hazelholmshaw9415 6 месяцев назад +8

      It wa both the kids not just a Henry,and he was a little older so he could have seen Moore.

    • @DutchJoan
      @DutchJoan 6 месяцев назад +24

      @@hazelholmshaw9415
      Definitely!! There is a book detailing that William would push tissues under the bathroom door towards his crying mother as a teenager. But at least William from a certain age had some intervenors in his grandparents. Queen Elizabeth took it upon herself to prepare William for his task as future king. Harry didn't have that. And he didn't have William's personality and character either. Something like the difference between prince Edward and prince Andrew.

    • @alanaw27
      @alanaw27 6 месяцев назад +26

      Harry was often kept off school by Diana when she was feeling down. He was her little pet and must have found it hard when she started travelling with her boyfriends, to Pakistan and with Dodi to the South of France.

    • @jacquelinevanwickevoortcro1274
      @jacquelinevanwickevoortcro1274 6 месяцев назад +12

      Charles snd Diane were very selfish parents.

  • @jm162
    @jm162 6 месяцев назад +38

    Diana certainly can't be considered the 'better' parent on a dispassionate examination...the aristocratic way of raising children was appalling which is why criticism of Catherine and William putting their children first totally misses the point that they are making a great change...for the better.

  • @Romdormer
    @Romdormer 6 месяцев назад +124

    I've never thought Diana was a good parent. I believe she truly loves her boys, and meant well, but what sort of mother broadcasts to the world that her child's father was disappointed in him from the get-go, and creates the situation which leaves his parentsge in public doubt? And the rest ...

    • @pamelacox540
      @pamelacox540 6 месяцев назад +40

      I agree. She actually said in a broadcasted interview that their marriage was basically over after Harry was born. She said that Charles was disappointed that Harry wasn’t a girl and had red hair. What kind of mother does that publicly?

    • @mirelairinapetre6503
      @mirelairinapetre6503 6 месяцев назад +11

      I wrote this thing so many times,on so many channels.👍👍

    • @ABC1701A
      @ABC1701A 5 месяцев назад +8

      Not only that but if a father spoke about - or treated - a daughter the way Diana treated and spoke about William the public would have been battering down the door as social services because they would (rightfully) be calling it child abuse. Yet Diana could and did treat William as an adult, treated him as her confidente and spoke about him in a way you NEVER talk about your child - calling him her soul mate and how fabulous he was and her perfect male etc - especially in public. It was beyond creepy and definitely bordering on, if not actually, child abuse. Plus what mother allows her 10/11 year old son to become paralytic on board a yacht (as in so drunk he couldn't stand, sorry a term I grew up using) literally with her watching as she did with Harry on Dodi's (or so it was claimed, I don't know the timelines so it might have been someone else's yacht) yacht in the Med. William was left to take him down to his bunk and minister to him while Diana continued partying up on deck.

    • @user-gh6jo4xe5p
      @user-gh6jo4xe5p 5 месяцев назад +3

      Agreed.That bit about Harry being a disappointment was a horrible thing to say.

  • @TraceyBurton-gs6jm
    @TraceyBurton-gs6jm 6 месяцев назад +11

    I always remember that footage of Diana stepping onto the deck of the royal yacht Britannia wearing that red and white checked jacket with the exaggerated open arms hug for William, which is all very nice but you can see Harry standing in the foreground, turning around and looking slightly confused as to why he wasn't getting the same type of hug. He got a hug but oddly less to the one William received.

  • @mirelairinapetre6503
    @mirelairinapetre6503 6 месяцев назад +26

    Telling the whole world that your father was dissapointed by you from day one.....Nice words from a mother! I m not saying KC was perfect as a husband or a father.But there is no wound like the one inflected by your mother.Harry was so unlucky,from all points of view.First one is his character.

  • @nicolechannel3302
    @nicolechannel3302 6 месяцев назад +17

    I have never felt that Diana was the angelic saint everyone makes her out to be. Her life and death was tragic, but she did a lot of messed up things. I always felt she “acted” like some innocent lamb.

  • @user-fl5jh3zi9d
    @user-fl5jh3zi9d 6 месяцев назад +10

    Wow - why would she tell Harry to ask James to teach him about polo? His father, grandfather and I believe Uncle Andrew all played polo. This is so disrespectful of her husband and this boy’s father. It gives him the impression that his father doesn’t want to take the time to teach him. And she also wants Harry to have affection and admiration for James as he is willing to take the time to teach him something that his father is not doing. No wonder people started gossiping that Hewitt was his daddy - she wanted this boy to bond with this man. This dame was a piece of work.

  • @juneerasmus3485
    @juneerasmus3485 4 месяца назад +29

    HARRY??? YES HE IS. HIS MOTHERS IS MORE TO BLAME FOR HIS UPBRINGING.

  • @snoopybluejeans
    @snoopybluejeans 4 месяца назад +5

    Someone needs to send Harry this book. Seriously!
    Thank you for your wonderful narration, Shauna. You have a wonderful voice, one that makes me listen. Your story telling remind me of my grade 2 teacher Ms. Sitter, who read us the most delicious books for our age, Charlotte's Web was my favorite. I think I've been attached to spiders, pigs and Nancy Drew ever since, but mostly reading.
    Anyway, I love your background [set] and seeing I'm doing a reno, I'm going to make sure there's a book nook. 🙂

  • @katiehill619
    @katiehill619 6 месяцев назад +119

    Diana did a lot of damage to those boys. It is actually a very common thing to find during therapy that you've placed all the blame on one parent, when the other was actually the source of much of the issues. She had a very awful childhood herself, and never really had much support with healing and maturing. Her own desperate need for affirmation and attention, her manipulation of those around her clearly had a terrible impact on both Harry and William. William seems to have both had better therapy - and found a partner that supported him to heal, rather than exacerbated his issues. Harry.......well.......maybe he should read Wendy's book.

    • @3_times_mum520
      @3_times_mum520 4 месяца назад +1

      Prince William was more together with his father and his family.. he asked for more time with his father... after he got older.. and even more after Diana's book and interview..
      and Harry was more together with Diana..
      Wanted to get alone time with his mother...
      Maybe because Diana had used all these years, making Alone time with prince William??!

    • @katiehill619
      @katiehill619 4 месяца назад

      @@3_times_mum520 you should read The Housekeepers Diary by Wendy Barry. Not her observations at all

    • @marilynevans8436
      @marilynevans8436 4 месяца назад +2

      I blamed my dad for a lot until my 30's when I found out it was my mother behind it all.

  • @mickidonahue4038
    @mickidonahue4038 6 месяцев назад +21

    So glad you pointed this out about Diana. She gets off easy because she learned to wow the crowds with her good looks and well trained grace. The interview with her public speaking teacher was very telling. She seemed more like a big sister to the boys, and may have been a surrogate emotional partner to William, which is very damaging to a boy.

    • @ytcomms3945
      @ytcomms3945 6 месяцев назад +5

      She kept using William as unpaid psychologist between boyfriends and probably cuddled with Harry a little too closely and too often.

  • @elizabethnicholas1939
    @elizabethnicholas1939 6 месяцев назад +111

    I’ve heard it said that William inherited his Mother’s looks but Harry inherited her neurosis.
    Diana was an emotionally damaged girl long before Charles, as evidenced by the tapes she recorded of stories of a very unloving childhood. The whole thing is terribly sad. Unfortunately I think she was too mixed up and emotionally immature to understand it wouldn’t be wise to parade the lover before the children.

    • @abbatrouble
      @abbatrouble 4 месяца назад

      The boys were also teased by their classmates about their mother's many affairs. William even refused to see her once when she visited his school because a story about her was making the rounds. Everyone in that circle knew what she was.

  • @sahdogwrangler5594
    @sahdogwrangler5594 5 месяцев назад +18

    Very interesting!! Did you notice there's not a tiny whiff of negativity in Spare about his mum?
    Also, nothing remotely negative about his wife, as if they were both angels from Heaven. He's a twisted man that doesn't seem to have had effective therapy to deal with his past.

    • @abbatrouble
      @abbatrouble 4 месяца назад

      I expected Harry to think his mother and his wife were wonderful but what utterly shocks and mystifies me is the legion of Diana worshippers who still think she was hurt by Charles even though there are tons of evidence that she betrayed him ( first and often ) but not one drop of evidence to show that Charles mistreated her in any way!

  • @TammyAus
    @TammyAus 6 месяцев назад +23

    I was a nanny for twenty years and I worked for many parents who refused to take thier children out because they couldn’t manage them. I took them out alone every day but the parents couldn’t. Too hard and not fun.

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +5

      I bet you could write a book! 😉💗

    • @TammyAus
      @TammyAus 5 месяцев назад +3

      I could and it would be a very sad book. The help was spot on. I was sobbing watching that movie.

  • @lindabridget49
    @lindabridget49 6 месяцев назад +109

    Shauna, you are a wonderful storyteller! Absolutely loving this! ❤️

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +5

      Thank you so much! X

    • @DaisyMaeMoses
      @DaisyMaeMoses 6 месяцев назад +5

      She is a very visual speaker. It’s like watching a film when she describes events.

  • @EllieD.Violet
    @EllieD.Violet 6 месяцев назад +152

    From what I read here and there, can't remember exactly: yes. Rumour has it that Diana was well aware of Harry, as #2 being but a side note of history, would feel inferior, so she tried to give him preferential parental treatment and let him misbehave, hardly ever scolding him. That's why she also bequeathed a higher amount of money to him than to William.
    It was IMO the wrong kind of parenting. She should have pointed out the privileges and blessings that come with the #2 position, and should have encouraged him to prepare for a life outside the royal family. Look at Willem-Alexander's brothers, at Victoria's siblings for comparison.
    Edit typo

    • @katemyer1955
      @katemyer1955 6 месяцев назад +37

      I totally agree. I acknowledge that Diana’s parenting philosophy came from a place of love, but it was shortsighted. All people, children and adults, build confidence and self-worth from mastery. She taught Harry he was “just as good as” but also that no matter how hard he tries his brother will always be first, better, more important, the heir.
      If she’d only helped them define what success looked like for them as individuals, and then helped them to move along that path, maybe the Spare would be more fulfilled, and less of a fuzzy spittoon filled with impotent rage.

    • @milliway2010
      @milliway2010 6 месяцев назад +44

      I read years ago (and who knows the truth of any of this then or now, but the results tend to prove it true) that when Diana's tenious relationships failed or felt slighted; she would go into rages and depression. She kept Harry home from school for days at a time to watch movies and eat junk food...like some sort of teddy bear. Of course as a child Harry would lap up the attention thinking he had a special bond with his mum...but one wonders...did he not witness the drama, crying jags, etc.? Whereas she made her expectations of William very clear, she put her adult emotional weight on him. He would be king. IMO, in many ways the then teen William had the much more difficult role to resolve. She also publicly remarked that Harry was "slow" so I don't think she had any expectations for Harry beyond being a sort of royal neer'well/ward of the Monarchy. I am sure many of us have seen this dynamic among our own extended family or friends...the manipulative ex-wife who uses her children against an ex-spouse...it is not an unique situation and millions of children grow up as emotionally wounded as Harry.

    • @karmac2023
      @karmac2023 6 месяцев назад +19

      Well she did call him good king Harry! lol agree she did not prepare him at all for his future. Setting him on a path of value away from the RF would have been valuable to him.
      Can you imagine what went on when William went off to school and it was Harry alone w his mum?

    • @overthepond6616
      @overthepond6616 6 месяцев назад +32

      To put William as a boy through her marital woes talking to him that is sooooo wrong....she was trying to paint Charles in a bad light...hear they became friendly and did better co parenting....you don't confide like that to your children. I liked Diana she was not perfect...had flaws and manipulated the press...MM studied her I believe. I think she thought the OW interview she would get sympathy like Diana's interview but lies now are easier to prove with internet etc....

    • @krishnavyas313
      @krishnavyas313 6 месяцев назад +42

      ​@@karmac2023 she also called Harry, bit airhead like me and she complimented william by saying he is wise beyond his years. William is my best friend and "true soul mate" she also used call william "my DDG boy" ( DDG=Drop dead gorgeous)🙄.
      She also invited Cindy Crawford to Kensington palace because prince william had crush on her.
      She behaved very weirdly with her boys

  • @kathyprime5430
    @kathyprime5430 6 месяцев назад +30

    I always thought Diana hated horses. The children were a rouse.

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +3

      Maybe initially she wanted to learn riding to be closer to Charles? Might be naive of me…

    • @tc1027
      @tc1027 6 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@thevintagereadMost Royals ride....lessons...I don't think I ever saw Diana on a horse....

    • @catherinepositano8544
      @catherinepositano8544 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@tc1027 I read she was afraid of horses....

    • @abbatrouble
      @abbatrouble 4 месяца назад

      Diana absolutely hated horses and anything to do with country life although she did pretend long enough to snare Charles.@@tc1027

  • @larhumba4233
    @larhumba4233 6 месяцев назад +57

    Later on in the relationship with Hewitt, Diana would take the boys to Devon to Hewitt's Mother's cottage, and was a regular guest there. At some point William must have cottoned on to what was happening, which is very sad and irresponsible behaviour by Diana. The boys didn’t meet Camilla till long after Diana had died and they were in their late teens/early 20s. Re the tragic skiing accident, so relieved Charles doesn't Ski anymore, so his current Equerry is not put in danger. This book is fascinating. Thank you for sharing.

    • @lizmacrae4970
      @lizmacrae4970 6 месяцев назад +9

      Oh no we cannot have Johnnie needlessly put at risk …..not Johnnie!

  • @carolthorson7854
    @carolthorson7854 4 месяца назад +3

    I think I see where Harry gets his hatred for being the spare and noting every time William got preference.

  • @garylefevers
    @garylefevers 6 месяцев назад +12

    I have been saying he was blaming the wrong parent for years. I used to think that poor Diana did no wrong, even when she openly confessed her own affairs, even with married men. Until I got more life experience and realized what a hypocrite I had been. Thank God I realized she is only human, like C and C, like us all.

  • @kayzee2675
    @kayzee2675 4 месяца назад +3

    How do we know when they met; or what they got up to? We know what they say - that the fun didn't start until after Harry was born - but they would say that, wouldn't they? Do we actually know they didn't meet earlier - and enjoy one another's company much earlier, than what is admitted to? Perhaps, the riding lessons where just a way to continue the subterfuge - Perhaps, bringing the boys along, simply a way in which the man could spend a little time with the fruits of his labor? Do we know for a fact that this isn't so?

  • @Celisar1
    @Celisar1 4 месяца назад +5

    Diana really set Harry up for all the problems he has now.
    Not an excuse since he is an adult know but you can really see the origin of all his problems.

  • @lindakirk3739
    @lindakirk3739 6 месяцев назад +6

    Not only the hatred of the press but the jealously of William was starting out with Diana.

  • @jimbo6059
    @jimbo6059 6 месяцев назад +10

    I always thought that there was something about Diana that was not right. I seem to have had misgivings from a young age, but i went with it. She exposed her son's to her lovers especially William who was called while he was boarding at Eton.

    • @ytcomms3945
      @ytcomms3945 6 месяцев назад +3

      She then used William as unpaid psychologist between boyfriends ... And probably cuddled with Harry a little too closely and too often.

  • @edd9032
    @edd9032 6 месяцев назад +46

    I appreciate this book, it really gives much insight into the raising of these two boys, it makes me a bit sad for them, even though there was love from both parents, it seems to me a selfish kind of love on the parents part, but nothing to stabilize their characters. William is fortunate to have Catherine, whom showed him through her family life how to be a decent upstanding man, she is to be commended , Catherine, the princess of Wales.

    • @lisaa8795
      @lisaa8795 4 месяца назад +2

      It's funny how those two people were supposed to care for the UK, Commonwealth and its people, and seemed to display compassion towards strangers at every opportunity, but when it came to their own family....they seemed rather selfish. Allegedly Gandhi was like that too. Loving mankind but their own families, not so much.

  • @jaygatsby2790
    @jaygatsby2790 6 месяцев назад +118

    Lady C said Diana told her about her affair with James and was happy to report that Charles and her were amicably separated--she had James, and Charles had Camilla--and Diana gushed how wonderful it was that Charles was so understanding and even let James stay at Highgrove when he was away. Then Lady C said Diana suddenly changed her tune about Charles. Lady C suspected it was because Diana had been advised that she had to play the victim/wronged wife otherwise she would get nothing out of the divorce like Sarah York. Lady C figured if Diana was going to ambush Charles with the Morton book, she would beat them to the punch and publish her own unauthorized Diana biography first and tell the truth about Charles and Diana. She'd already received the advance and she needed the money to adopt her sons so she did it.

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +15

      Yes that is interesting…I wonder if Lady C’s book was commissioned by the Palace? 😂 Only joking 😊

    • @lizamartin4705
      @lizamartin4705 6 месяцев назад +7

      Lady C has inside info because she works for Charles. She says what he wants her to, not necessarily the truth.

    • @helenfrew2319
      @helenfrew2319 6 месяцев назад +32

      @@lizamartin4705 Where on earth did you read that?

    • @Romdormer
      @Romdormer 6 месяцев назад +28

      ​@@lizamartin4705That's just something you've dreamed up, isn't it? Kinda like 2 and 2 make 5.

    • @MiaMia-et4sc
      @MiaMia-et4sc 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@lizamartin4705so you are now like a lawyer in court “drop a name or happening” the say “withdrawn”. Ha ha.

  • @leslieacoca5876
    @leslieacoca5876 6 месяцев назад +23

    Wonderful. So much better than the royal drivel we generally hear. This woman lived at Highgrove when it all happened!

  • @elainemoreland3908
    @elainemoreland3908 4 месяца назад +4

    My opinion, she did not want Harry. She said in an interview things got worst after Harry was born. Loved him, but she was all in to William. He was a little demon with his behavior from the start.

  • @dianelee2318
    @dianelee2318 6 месяцев назад +15

    Sadly, there are a few accounts of Diana being capable of a level of coldness to assorted different people. So, no surprise she was able to ignore and leave Charles at such a vulnerable time. I'm sure there were other people capable of comforting the widow. I was in love with Diana from the start but in retrospect I think she was capable of real nastiness when prompted.

    • @ABC1701A
      @ABC1701A 5 месяцев назад +3

      The only thing I will say in her favour (I had family, now deceased, who spent their lives living near the Spencers and like all locals knew just what the family at the ''big house'' were really like, or you did in those days, not sure you would now, so I grew up knowing what the Spencers were like as a family and none of it was good) is that only Diana and Charles Spencer take after the Spencer family (and Harry). Both her older siblings seem to have avoided the issues - though I believe they both had mental health issues which is something that also runs in that family, has done for centuries - that Diana and Charles both inherited. Look her brother up and see his history, not for nothing was he absent from the weddings of both daughters (he was invited but it was made clear to him he wasn't welcome hence the ''bad injury'' that prevented him from attending either wedding, it was likely that if he came neither of the mothers' of the brides would have been able to enjoy the day as they were able to with him not there) and he has a really terrible track record with the way he treats women. Diana largely raised him as well as neither would interact with their father when they were younger and Diana also publicly proclaimed that Harry was all Spencer, unfortunately this appears to be all too true down to the mental health, addiction issues, really bad behaviour but hopefully he isn't also a spouse/child beater - it runs in the family and wives have abused husbands/kids as husbands have abused wives/kids, truly a not nice family - and his father would certainly know that a certain amount of his issues are genuinely genetic as were Dianas. Unfortunately at this stage I doubt there is anything that can be done to help Harry, but however much I dislike Meghan I have to remember that being married to him is probably no picnic and I really hope he hasn't inherited his Uncle Charles' nasty character as well as his mother's issues.

  • @gibbersking6575
    @gibbersking6575 6 месяцев назад +24

    Charles's game of "big, bad wolf," sounds perfect for young boys! An adversary... a supposed dangerous one, at that. Boys having to summon courage and physical skill such as speed, slippery maneuvers, daring proximity and whatnot. Yet we know that all involved loved nothing more than the wolf catching a child, that brief embrace (a roar, a squeal!) and then that body tossed onto the safe and comfy sofa to break it apart but start all over again. (Maybe the reinvigorated and determined challenger leaping off the sofa onto the wolf?!) What fun for boys of all ages!

  • @roseharvey2664
    @roseharvey2664 6 месяцев назад +86

    That is a very insightful book. A normal person looking at what was going on, particularly in relation to the children. And without extra drama or blame added.

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +11

      Yes I found it to be a very honest and raw book. I really love it!

    • @june6119
      @june6119 6 месяцев назад

      Good point!

  • @cherylanne4390
    @cherylanne4390 6 месяцев назад +34

    Strangely enough this was mentioned in "The Crown" (not that this drama is historically correct), but it made me think. How can Harry ever blame his mother, the wonderful saint Diana, the people's princess? So he takes it out on his father because he can. Goodness, the lives of rich privilege isn't all that it's cracked up to be imo. Love you reading exerts from this book. So revealing all these years later.

  • @lebkha
    @lebkha 6 месяцев назад +13

    Let's just say Diana wasn't the angel we all thought she was and that's fine, she was faulty human just like all of us.
    Poor Charles he was portrayed as the villain when he was only 50% responsible and his frustrations were understandable.

  • @luilu9233
    @luilu9233 6 месяцев назад +35

    Harry was a brat

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +3

      😂 Maybe…or just a normal energetic little boy (I had one like that!)

    • @EllieD.Violet
      @EllieD.Violet 6 месяцев назад +10

      He still is. He behaves like a 5 years old at times.

    • @esmekaffen4961
      @esmekaffen4961 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@thevintagereadAgree. 5 year old children in general are a handful

    • @douglaswilliams9657
      @douglaswilliams9657 4 месяца назад +2

      Was??

  • @mycatsnameiskaren8253
    @mycatsnameiskaren8253 6 месяцев назад +112

    My now ex husband had an affair for over a year and took our 2 daughters with him for "play dates" while i was working. This is devastating to a marriage and the children. 8 years later and he's with her now and it has almost destroyed my relationship with my daughter's. People can be pretty awful to each other and I've never understood involving kids. So unnecessary.

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +28

      💗💗💗 I’m so sorry, hang in there, your relationship can’t be destroyed, they are forever yours. Time, time has a way of bringing balance back, I truly believe that. X

    • @karenburrows4591
      @karenburrows4591 6 месяцев назад +1

      My husband took our youngest with him for play dates

    • @christinaphillips5933
      @christinaphillips5933 6 месяцев назад +3

      My husband 🤡 !! Took my children to the Barbies house 🏠 and the kids said they left them outside playing and they locked the door so the kids said mommy Dad took them to Barbies house,!! It was Linda Barnes she had straight long blonde hair !! Lol😂 that's why the kids said she was Barbie 😂😂😂😂 ! I tried to give him to them 😂 but no one wanted to keep him 😢

  • @gremlin5622
    @gremlin5622 6 месяцев назад +11

    Lady C has said H was a disruptive child so naturally Di would want a nanny along to handle him. Di seems the kind of mother who'd not reprimand her kids and wouldn't allow anyone else to either. So H misbehaving with the nanny could be blamed on the nanny couldn't and Diana would be in the clear. I think William was also a disruptive child but he seems to have grown out of much of the behaviour. He seems in his early teens to have got a clearer picture of his mother's neurosis and misbehaviour. And later he was able to forgive her, love her as a flawed person and not worship her as some do.

  • @dcm103
    @dcm103 5 месяцев назад +10

    Yes, I agree that H is blaming the wrong parent. Someone should give Harry a copy of that book so he can reminisce 🤔 recollections may vary😮

  • @dominaevillae28
    @dominaevillae28 4 месяца назад +2

    From what I remember from hearing the ski story before, the equerry that died in the skiing accident, hadn’t wanted to go. The slopes weren’t closed, though there was some kind of avalanche warning, but Charles insisted on skiing.

  • @thepunpolice11
    @thepunpolice11 6 месяцев назад +8

    In Lady C's book about H&M she says very early on she was bringing lovers to Highgrove. Also talks about the reasons no one in the family could intervene when Diana was alive to provide any Dicipline or boundaries. Pretty sure she called the paps when she had the boys so she could play victim.

  • @priv9512
    @priv9512 6 месяцев назад +43

    Looking forward to this. Shauna is a fantastic story teller.I love this series. The book is so expensive.

  • @marywest2896
    @marywest2896 6 месяцев назад +15

    I have always felt that Harry's biggest problem in moving on in life is not facing his mother's failures in her parenting....he won't allow himself to be angry with his mother because he can't be angry with a saint....if he would allow himself a deep view of his childhood and see how his mother also made mistakes get mad and get over it, then when he could be equally mad at both parents he could grow up....the stages of grief HAS to all be gone through, Harry is stuck in the grief because he won't allow anger to be felt toward his saint of a mother.....people are always wanting harry to move on, you can't move out of the grief process without all the steps felt and went through. too bad all those high priced therapist just wouldn't or couldn't get the stages worked through.....makes you wonder about the training of them, heck I learned the stages in nursing school, to help patients. don't seem to be the same with "therapist".

    • @MarianneOz
      @MarianneOz 6 месяцев назад +4

      Yes he seems stuck in the freeze response to the trauma if his mother’s death. Understandable but yes, a trauma informed therapist surely should have given him some bloody relief from this terrible state. I actually do feel sorry for him as a witness to his pain which is made so public.

    • @abbatrouble
      @abbatrouble 4 месяца назад +1

      I wonder if Harry is subconsciously trying to borrow the adoration some people feel for his mother just to make himself more important. If I were the son of a famous beloved person i would be reminding everyone.

  • @bnic9471
    @bnic9471 4 месяца назад +2

    As I recall from a couple of biographies, Diana outright blamed Charles for Lindsay's death. Classy.

  • @janetbowersox83
    @janetbowersox83 6 месяцев назад +15

    Wow! That certainly helps to explain some of Harry's issues. I am so enjoying your examination of this account. Very eye opening.....I knew Dianna wasnt as innocent as was presented, but this puts it all on a whole new level of manipulation.

  • @pamelav4628
    @pamelav4628 6 месяцев назад +10

    Children don't fix a marriage.

  • @spiritofanu3112
    @spiritofanu3112 6 месяцев назад +21

    From this book, my admiration of how Prince William turned the tragedy of his childhood into a positive life, is even more commendable. But bare in mind, we are reading about the standard parenting techniques of the aristocracy at that time. I do not believe neither Charles nor Diana were acting out of the norm for their world and had probably experienced something similar growing up themselves. Affairs and Nannie’s seem to be a part of that life. I do believe here is where the unconditional love of grandparents could have made a difference to the boys. The boys really did not have that influence from either side. At least not as much as they probably needed. I am really enjoying this read with you. Thank you

    • @krishnavyas313
      @krishnavyas313 6 месяцев назад +2

      Since prince william started studying in Eton every Sunday he had lunch with Queen and prince philip, Queen mother also invited william for tea many times in a month.

    • @abbatrouble
      @abbatrouble 4 месяца назад

      At that time and in their world affairs would often be tolerated if they were discrete but Diana broke all the rules and really didn't didn't know or didn't care how her actions would be perceived. Everybody in their circle talked freely about her escapades and her children were so often teased and embarrassed.

  • @samanthawatmough6119
    @samanthawatmough6119 6 месяцев назад +31

    Dianas problems started long before the marriage, looks like the same with Harry . problems way before Meghan. The difference is William saw Catherines family unit and thought thats what i want, and looks like he has got it. Meghan had a very caring father and Dorias family seem close but fame has sent her bonkers and Harry with it.

    • @theheartoftexas
      @theheartoftexas 6 месяцев назад +20

      I think they both have inherited, organic, mental illnesses, that cannot be fixed with medication and/or therapy. It certainly seems that Diana did as well. I know Charles is far from perfect, but I honestly feel sorry for him.

    • @abbatrouble
      @abbatrouble 4 месяца назад

      William is intelligent and a decent person. Harry is not!

  • @Celisar1
    @Celisar1 6 месяцев назад +7

    My father lost his own father at the age of 12.
    When I was a child my father liked to tell us stories about our grandfather which my father found to be funny and entertaining
    Even as I child I noticed so many bad things these stories revealed about my grandfather that I was baffled how my father could not see that.
    As an adult I once pointed out these things to my father but he still couldn’t see anything wrong or odd.
    Instead he continued to glorify his father all his life.
    The loss of a parent at a young age can obviously make it impossible for people to develop a realistic perspective as you normally do while growing up. It seems that’s exactly what happened to Harry.

  • @alexisa3047
    @alexisa3047 6 месяцев назад +27

    I just LOVE these housekeeper diaries videos! I wish I could buy this book to read myself. Thank you!

  • @Loobylooto2
    @Loobylooto2 6 месяцев назад +37

    I’m loving that we are onto James Hewitt already and u seem to have plenty more chapters to come looking at you holding the book up and so many pages to come 😂😂😂❤❤❤🎉

  • @notbill08
    @notbill08 6 месяцев назад +22

    About the polo match: Normally I wouldn't defend Diana but.... my nephew was a holy terror as a child. Good natured, not hyperactive but mischievous. If you have a child like that, sometimes you can't take them anywhere unless they are doing an activity or you have to closely supervise them. Sometimes you just have to leave them home.

    • @noreenen2347
      @noreenen2347 6 месяцев назад +2

      in that case she should have left both children at home

    • @LynxSouth
      @LynxSouth 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@noreenen2347 No. One child should not be punished for the other's misbehavior. That is guaranteed to create troubles in both the sibling relationship and in the child-parent relationship.

    • @user-fl5jh3zi9d
      @user-fl5jh3zi9d 6 месяцев назад +2

      Was there a nanny at home? He didn’t stay there by himself- why couldn’t the individual watching him come with her. It just seems odd that a staffer couldn’t go with her to help her keep an eye on him.

    • @ABC1701A
      @ABC1701A 5 месяцев назад

      @@user-fl5jh3zi9d Problem is (although I've no idea if this happened with the nanny) she encouraged him to abuse palace employees. She would stand and watch him ride his bike into employees and then when he did it she'd laugh and pat him on the head. Never once apologised for him or made him apologise, never told him off either, just laughed and patted him on the head before walking off with him (there were videos on RUclips though I don't know if they're still up there but ex staff have also confirmed this as has at least one retired royal protection officer). He was a thoroughly vile child and instead of actually telling him off and trying to instill some sense of normal behaviour she merely encouraged his actions and ensured he knew he could do anything because mum would cover him. If he was caught abusing his older brother by his father - mentioned on a number of channels and also photos/video of this as well - then Charles wasn't allowed to stop him tell him off then or later. If he tried Diana would throw a tantrum - no matter who else was there which is probably how it became public knowledge in the first place - until he basically gave up when she'd stop. Harry definitely had issues but they certainly weren't helped by his mother basically encouraging his vile behaviour, and today we see in its full glory the result of that encouragement. Might be why his father has almost endless patience, he more than anyone will know exactly who was the real culprit in all of this and that - to an extent - Harry was also a victim.

  • @YvonneB520
    @YvonneB520 3 месяца назад

    This book explains so much about today's issues. This is something that happened to me, my Dad would take me on fun outings with his mistress, I was four and my Mom was pregnant. Many things are fuzzy and won't get into details, but the aftermath in my life is that in my early years I only had married boyfriends until I finally realized what I was doing and stopped. And had so many other issues that took decades to resolve until now that I'm 51, going to get married for the first time with a faithful, stable man.

  • @tomh3599
    @tomh3599 6 месяцев назад +30

    Harry has been described by others who were around him as an often poorly behaved, angry child. Perhaps Diana couldn't cope with him on her own in public. It would help explain his resentment of William.

    • @BarbaraHardacre
      @BarbaraHardacre 6 месяцев назад +4

      If diana didn't take Harry to the polo and the nanny was at the hospital then who did she leave Harry with?

    • @dawnjohnson5937
      @dawnjohnson5937 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@BarbaraHardacre Ooooh! Good question!!!

  • @Jasmine-he2fq
    @Jasmine-he2fq 6 месяцев назад +6

    It seems so far from this book that the main person who didn't show favouritism to William over Harry was Charles. Do we think Harry is still trying to get his mother's affection by pushing his dad away and marrying Markle (who seems a lot like Diana)?

  • @elizabethskolnick7753
    @elizabethskolnick7753 6 месяцев назад +7

    Let's see if I understood this correctly, mother starts inviting a random, single man to stay overnight(s) with her in her husband's house, furthermore one that was employed for her small children who are also there in the home and there's only SOME question if it's appropriate but not for a year? How could Charles stand to live like this? Hmmm! Prelude to how he handles his family situations now! To this day, I've never heard H. make any criticism of her (failure to separate), indeed he seems intent on duplicating the wrong parent's behavior.

  • @judithholder2537
    @judithholder2537 5 месяцев назад +11

    I have a relative who, as a young male child, was in states of fury. His mom got him good psychological help. Male neighbors paid attention to him when his father was absent (physically or emorionally). He had involved grand-parents, teachers, uncles, & aunts. He is now one of the most joyous young adults i have ever known. Indeed - it takes a village.

  • @alisonmcbrien1887
    @alisonmcbrien1887 4 месяца назад +3

    In an interview (which is on RUclips) James Hewitt had with an American chat show, he says he first met Diana at a dinner party way before Harry was born.
    It is another case of smudging dates to conceal information.

  • @penedomries6362
    @penedomries6362 6 месяцев назад +38

    It's been said that with complicated grief, it is common to feel angry at the person who died, depending on the circumstances. In Harry's case, he might have felt overwhelmed and angry at being "left" on his own. Interestingly, from what you have read, one could say that her death mimicked the way she treated him in life. This could be a strong factor in Harry's extreme jealousy towards William; the brother. who is not only going to be king, but who was also his mother's "favourite" son.

  • @susanlucas6642
    @susanlucas6642 6 месяцев назад +12

    Oh Shauna, I enjoyed this so much. I do think Diana wasn’t an angel and could be manipulative when it suits her. I can understand if William was a well behaved child and Harry was indulged, she wouldn’t want to take him out on her own. No wonder Harry was always resentful of William.

  • @georgina4152
    @georgina4152 6 месяцев назад +7

    Not unheard, in an unhappy marriage, for one of the partners to cast an emotionally vulnerable child into the role of ally and weaponize that child against the opposing partner. From this perspective, Diana could be said to have weaponized Harry against his father while William, as heir apparent, was the hands-off offspring. Certainly, William endured infamous crying sessions with his mother, but an institutional buffering would have discouraged an emotional vulnerability. With Harry, Diana traded love for loyalty. And if Harry were to go into therapy and examine this dynamic, he would discover that he has blamed the wrong parent for his deep emotional distress. A damaged princess and her damaged prince, not a happy story.

  • @mweya3
    @mweya3 6 месяцев назад +7

    You do such a great review😀 I'm both amazed, and not, how much this book is confirming my own instinctive feelings of Di at the time this was happening. I am of an age with Di. Married within the same time frame and had two boys within the same time frame and left my ex 7mths pregnant with my second child. I could probably have struggled on with my marriage if I didn't care about the damage it would do to my boys. They came first in everything I did. Di's selfish behaviour & lack of concern of what was being endured by her boys always coloured my view of her.

  • @cloudybeforerain7134
    @cloudybeforerain7134 6 месяцев назад +11

    10:45 It’s not judgemental at all, Shauna. I was introduced to one of my parent’s affairs and I still, decades later, struggle to forgive either of them their flagrant selfishness.

  • @yf4012
    @yf4012 3 месяца назад +1

    This episode explains a lot. It seems that Diana never matured fully herself and unfortunately Harry followed suit. I am loving this series of The Housekeeper’s Diary and find your conversational style of story-telling absolutely riveting. Thankyou so much for your videos, I could listen to them all day long!😃🇦🇺👩‍🏫📚

  • @carolesommer2255
    @carolesommer2255 3 месяца назад +3

    Thanks to H obsession with his Mother - the books are being revisited & the impression is that PD wasn’t the nice, caring, charming person she made herself out to be. The Psychologists that have treated H could have gently made H come to the realisation that PDs behaviour was destructive & divisive.
    PD did a Great Job making sure that she was the Central Figure to both boys & sewed the seeds of jealousy & hate within Hs heart.
    Did PD have Narcissistic/BPD/Histrionic personality disorder ?
    Recollect a quote that allegedly stated that PDs revenge on The RF would be through her sons.
    PDs dark side has revealed a diabolically manipulative individual.
    PW has the good sense to Not draw attention to PDs antisocial qualities &
    H can’t stop psycho babbling about that Horror Show of a woman he foolishly married as being Diana 2.0 🙀

  • @jgibbs651
    @jgibbs651 6 месяцев назад +15

    Diana didn't want attention, she wanted worship.
    Yes, Harry really was such a little monster that he needed one adult to give him one-to-one attention.
    Everyone took Diana's own view that she was the better parent, but in fact Charles was far better with them, especially good at keeping them under control without being harsh. Diana was pretty clueless other than making sure she was photographed with them at theme parks.

  • @taniac1860
    @taniac1860 6 месяцев назад +4

    I am new to your channel and am loving this series. Isn’t it interesting how our perspectives change over the years with a bit of time, maturity and life lessons learned.
    As someone in my mid 50’s I grew up with rose coloured glasses where Diana was concerned, alas a lot of Harry’s behaviour and his willingness to use her name at every turn has removed a lot of that tint.
    A couple of weeks ago Diana’s interview tapes, with Andrew Morton, popped up on my RUclips recommendations and on listening to them I came away realising just how so involved Diana truely was. She was prepared to run anyone and everyone down so long as it served her own needs.
    One particular statement the really got to me, was when she was speaking about her father and her wedding day. I can’t recall her exact words but it was something along the lines of “oh, he was waving himself silly enjoying every minute”, it’s not so much what she said but the way she said it that really got to me, extremely condescending. Watching the video of them in the carriage together and then arriving at St Paul’s, all I could see was a very happy and proud father who was about to walk his daughter down the isle, not to mention the fact her father was still recovering from a major stroke.
    I still remember how proud and happy my own father was when I got married, and it’s one of the memories that I treasure now he’s no longer with us. So considering that interview was done AFTER her own father’s death, and she can still say it, along with other things, really speaks volumes as to just how self serving Diana truely was.
    She seems to have left a literal blueprint for Harry to follow. All very sad.

  • @violetjacobs1989
    @violetjacobs1989 6 месяцев назад +18

    This book explain a lot why harry become the man he is today. I couldn't wait for the next chapter ❤❤❤

  • @891Henry
    @891Henry 6 месяцев назад +4

    The books written by Diana's press secretary and butler have an obvious bias. There are books about Charles with an obvious bias towards him. This book seems well balanced and fair to both.

  • @hollylanevintagetreasures
    @hollylanevintagetreasures 6 месяцев назад +26

    Love love love your covering this book! I have been thoroughly enjoying these videos!! Very interesting to learn and hear about this history. There wasn't much chance for Harry to turn out well rounded, mentally healthy and stable. I feel bad for the little boy Harry. However, I have known people who have turned out to be gems and they went through bad childhoods as well. His choices are ultimately what made him the man he is today.
    Anyway, my opinions on Harry aside, this book is terribly interesting! Thank you again for the content. 😊

    • @esmekaffen4961
      @esmekaffen4961 6 месяцев назад +1

      Helped along by the woman he chose to marry of course.

  • @Stand663
    @Stand663 6 месяцев назад +2

    You’re correct in saying it was a toxic situation. On another note, I can’t imagine how a army officer would dare conduct an affair with Diana. He must’ve been mad. Surely Mi5 would’ve watching everything etc etc.

  • @Happinc
    @Happinc 6 месяцев назад +71

    Harry is certainly a spoiled man child and if his father was distant then it must have been his perfect deified departed mummy… treating children differently is the cardinal parenting sin!

    • @gloriacrossley201
      @gloriacrossley201 6 месяцев назад +12

      I treated my children the same now know I was wrong as they are individual & have different needs. They were never spoilt. Had the essentials but had to work for extra's washing up & mow lawn rota etc. To know value of money & take care of what they earned otherwise treated as easy come easy go, in a throw a way society

    • @arlenepena6029
      @arlenepena6029 6 месяцев назад +3

      Fast forward to today, Harry recalls his resentment that William received 5 sausages, and he received only 4.
      Why didn't Diana ensure equal portions? Obviously, this sort of treatment bothered Harry among what other treatments he received that possibly led up to his resentment and jealousy towards William.

    • @alanaw27
      @alanaw27 6 месяцев назад +16

      I believe my younger child had less food on her plate than her older sister. It’s not unusual that younger children eat less. I’m sure if he’d needed more it would be available.

    • @Happinc
      @Happinc 6 месяцев назад +1

      Of course you have to cater to individual personalities children with the same parents are never the same but what has to happen is that there is absolutely no favouritism or negating the needs of one whilst showering attention on another… we have to wonder how come William knows how to behave but Harry just doesn’t and we see the same with Charles and the pampered man child Andrew… perhaps it’s the heirs who get the tough love whilst the spare’s are just horribly indulged…🧐🤨

  • @susanread2637
    @susanread2637 6 месяцев назад +21

    Really enjoying this series, Shauna. You have real talents for this kind of vlog and your Snarky Snippets. Thank you and cheers from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @pmac4779
    @pmac4779 6 месяцев назад +18

    To me this chapter is the perfect example of the results of both of their childhoods. The Queen and Prince Philip were thrust into Royal duties when Charles was so young, and Diana's parents divorce and all it entailed. Completely sad situation.

  • @susandodson1822
    @susandodson1822 6 месяцев назад +9

    Much more to this story, I'm sure....alot going on beneath the surface. The children are the one's who suffer ultimately. Parents, Royal or not,, underestimate the impact that their selfishness has upon them, and the emotional scars that are left. Very sad😢

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад

      Yes we all make mistakes with our parenting…I know I do!

  • @puffpiece1375
    @puffpiece1375 6 месяцев назад +21

    I just love this series! So entertaining ❤

  • @gibbersking6575
    @gibbersking6575 6 месяцев назад +6

    I can't help but take very seriously the people, actions and statements made that you are bringing to our attention as influencing Sparry's opinions, attitudes and character. There is always (even) more to every story, but Mrs. Berry's presentation of the home life of the young princes and their parents is very, very important, enlightening and revealing. Yes, the stage is being set.

  • @janetclaireSays
    @janetclaireSays 5 месяцев назад +1

    I've always felt that Harry has a blind spot with his mother. Either a blind spot or deep down he's angry with her but can't allow that to surface so instead he piled on Charles and worships his mother.

    • @heidimueller1039
      @heidimueller1039 2 месяца назад

      He should be angry with Diana, because she always favoured William. Special dinners in bed with him, while Harry was left out. No wonder he resents his brother, but he should be blaming his mother for that. Instead he has put her on some unattainable pedestal.

  • @sandraray3731
    @sandraray3731 2 месяца назад

    …”saying ouchy things”. What a great expression!

  • @TahoeSnowbird
    @TahoeSnowbird 4 месяца назад +1

    Many years ago my Dad brought my 2 youngest sisters (4 and 2) to his mistress' house so they could play with her daughter while he and the mistress canoodled. Years later as adults, at a family meeting of all his 7 children to discuss how to deal with a family crisis concerning our father's behavior, my 2 sisters shared a childhood memory they thought was very odd. It turned out it was so odd they couldn't reconcile that it happened. But both having the same memory they realized it actually happened. So he was behaving very badly all the while giving us, his older daughters, sermons on morality. Some men have no morals! That was just one of many affairs he had over his lifetime that we know of. One of my sisters said he's our father so she loved him but she had no respect for him.

  • @2000konnie
    @2000konnie 6 месяцев назад +5

    Harry should watch this video! Because he lost his mother so young, it's natural that she was perfect in his memory, so he has pushed all of his collective resentment onto his father. As far as resentment of the press, Diana passed that to William as well. William was famously quoted while still a toddler, as saying that he didn't like "tog graffes". But William grew up and realized that the media is part of his life and learned to handle his issues. Harry never grew up mentally.

  • @allthatfluffnstuffQLDaustralia
    @allthatfluffnstuffQLDaustralia 6 месяцев назад +32

    Omg
    I cannot believe this is the highlight of my Saturday night 😂
    I’ve been waiting all week for this
    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again Shawna audiobook because there is no way I am paying $177 for a book
    I’m to poverty 😂

    • @Loobylooto2
      @Loobylooto2 6 месяцев назад +7

      Yep £63 sterling for a second hand book would break my budget for sure !!
      I’d have to save n then would think of much more important things I could spend that money on I still couldn’t justify it 😢😢

  • @trebrehrm
    @trebrehrm 4 месяца назад +1

    Loving your channel, it’s such good fun - a bit of light relief that we all need in this day and age.
    Listening to this series on the housekeepers diary has stirred up a lot of compassion in me for Charles; he’s been through such a lot for any person, and on top of that so much of his personal life is like public property. It’s a wonder he doesn’t have PTSD.

  • @berylbartlett6590
    @berylbartlett6590 6 месяцев назад +14

    Just love all your videos. Thank you ❤🇿🇦

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +1

      That's really kind! Thank you 😊

  • @ppauline1515
    @ppauline1515 4 месяца назад +2

    Harry was a real problem as a child if the staff are to be believed and if his behaviour is anything to go by today, I’m inclined to believe he was a ‘pain in the butt’!

  • @harrietb2141
    @harrietb2141 6 месяцев назад +4

    Harry should read that book.

    • @thevintageread
      @thevintageread  6 месяцев назад +3

      With a support person! 💗

    • @harrietb2141
      @harrietb2141 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@thevintageread 😂 maybe more than 1.

  • @laurac8659
    @laurac8659 4 месяца назад +1

    I agree with about Hewitt, 100%