I lied on a job application and said I knew Avid editing software. I got the job and then spent the next two weeks binging Avid tutorials on RUclips to be prepared for the job. I don’t think any of these actors have read any Tolkien.
I bet production would have called her "stuck in the past" or "anti-progressive" if she revealed she knew too much about that old decrepit movie series that happened sometime in the dark ages. Back when elves looked androgynous and -- wait. THEY'VE ACHIEVED NOTHING 👏.
Been reading The Fall of Gondolin recently and the imagery of Elves being these tall, beautiful, noble, troubled, honourable beings is just so Alive and Vivid... It's almost like the show writers haven't read a single line of Tolkien 🤔
It's worse than ignorance. I'm convinced they have read the books and thought "I can do better than this.....and make it less outdated and pRoBlemAtIc"
Eldar don't talk like Californians. Even men don't talk like that in Tolkien's world. Hence the show is mundane af. Just look at Children of Hurin and take a look at conversations between Turin and Beleg. Or Tuor and Voronwë in Fall of Gondolin. Every conversation is heavy, everything they talk about is life and death seriousness to it or else people are silent and silence has a lot of power in Tolkien's dialogue. Nobody jokes (in the modern Marvel sense), nobody mocks/jests with each other without death soon to follow (see Sairos). Elves and men are in a hostile world and everyone has deep sorrows. That is why Tolkien's works have a completely different pathos than what is presented in this awful show.
Something interesting to note. Most actors manage to separate themselves from their characters in interviews; referring to the characters in the third person. Whereas these people use the first person when talking about the characters they play. Big thonk.
That's crazy interesting. They are so disgustingly selfish it looks so amateur like they're completely oblivious, and the way they talk about themselves and only the most shallow aspects makes it look like they have put zero thought into the character, dilemmas, and the world
Its interesting you say everyone knew the stranger was gandalf at season 1 episode 1. Because the showrunners gave an interview where they said THEY didn’t know it was gandalf 😂
I always said it's not Gandalf because it's the Second Age... I'm holding onto that and sitting in my stubbornness pretty hard.😅 (This is why I never made it past the 3rd episode S1 and now only watch reviews)
I suspect there is a strong element of making it up as they went and not properly planning anything. But I refuse to believe that they did not know what they were doing at the very least by the time that they dropped the "always follow your nose" line on us. I think maybe they just had not quite made their minds up if they could get away with actually naming him as Gandalf. I mean, even when they do its in a slightly weaselly "I will be known as" way. Given that even canon draws some distinctions between grey and white, they could leverage to say that this is just a previous incarnation. "Gandalf" is still not going to arrive until some time later, this is just him in a past life or some such bollocks.
That is the only good that has come from Amazon's (Bezos's) vanity project. However, the net benefit to human civilization, history, and art that the RoP has contributed is a net negative. It is, ultimately, a symptom of modern cultural decline.
I was an SA on this (extra) playing an Orc. One of the worst jobs in my life. Did 2 weeks in a forest outside of Windsor in February (only to be interupted by Princ William and Kate) only to get replaced with no explanation. Had to refuse countless jobs for this, never got them back. Fuck this production, I hope it fails everywhere
This myth that no evil person thinks they are evil needs to go away. Some evil people genuine know they are evil and get pleasure from it. They simply enjoy evil and predation and manipulation, etc. Some psychopaths would be bored by their own actions if they thought they were being righteous or working to the greater good.
But to be fair you have house of dragons where the characters in any other context would be evil without redemption but people see them as the protagonist and hope for their victory. For example daemon
"Some evil people genuine know they are evil and get pleasure from it. They simply enjoy evil and predation and manipulation, etc. Some psychopaths would be bored by their own actions if they thought they were being righteous or working to the greater good." one, that's one hell of a strawman, and two it's just a tv show! get a grip ya damn outrage junkie.....
These people don't give a shit about Tolkien's works, they don't know anything about the books or the previous movies, actually they probably hate them and consider them weird, boring, not sexy and ultimately fascist.
To be fair, there isn't much tv worth watching coming from the West these days, including that episode she's talking about. I've only seen 40 minutes of Cringe of Power and I've definitely seen my share.
Yes, nothing says "high king of Gondor" like subservience and shared trauma. I'm convinced though that the show has gone full Monty Python at this stage, choosing rulers based on who a woman gives a sword to (we'd already had choosing rulers based on who stands next to an animal). Can we please have peasant in Gondor going on a rant about this in season 3? I might even promise to tune in for that, I don't doubt that many of the actors are nice people that you could have a laugh with. Just don't mistake them for people you could nerd out about Tolkien with. Unless maybe they do actually know the lore but are forbidden from talking about it on the clock. Its certainly quite depressing how obsessed they all are in public with shipping every character in sight.
15:00 Yes, Bulgaria does have a desert. One of only 2 in all of Europe. We even used to have wild native camels. The Jackson movies also used Bulgarian folk music as background music in some instances. Haven't heard it in video games, but it is popular in fantasy movies. Don't know how you could say something is both "generic" and "doesn't fit" at the same time, but I guess since LotR is based on celtic/norse myth, you'd rather have Scottish bagpipes in the soundtrack. But Bulgarian anything fits just fine. The Bulgarian language also has influence in Tolkien's writing. Several characters have names in Bulgarian, like Boromir (boro = pine forest, mir = peace) which is one letter away from the real life Bulgarian name Borimir ("fights for peace"). There's also the Balrog, which roughly translates to "white horn" in Bulgarian. Bulgarian history also had an influence on the story of LotR. We all know the parallels b/w the west/east roman empires and Arnor/Gondor. But there's also parallels b/w the siege of Minas Tirith and the siege of Constantinople of 717, where the invading Arabs held an empire to the east and south of the Byzantines, like the easterling and haradrim allies of Mordor. During that siege the Bulgarian cavalry hit the arabs from the rear to relieve the city, just like the Rohirim hit the armies of Mordor. Even the army sizes are comparable.
Blasphemy. Everyone knows that Churchill-Stalin-FDR is the true love triangle of WW2. Also, Churchill is quoted as saying some very gay shit about FDR.
Johnny, love your channel. I agree with you on absolutely everything involving the abysmal Rings of Puke. However, just one point of house keeping: the Palantiri could look into the future (provided the user had sufficient mental strength, and depending on proximity). Speaking of the Palantiri, this explanation from the Silmarillion: "Now these Stones had this virtue that those who looked therein might perceive in them things far off, whether in place *or in time*. For the most part they revealed only things near to another kindred Stone, for the Stones each called to each; but those who possessed great strength of will and of mind might learn to direct their gaze whither they would."
Sorry i don`t think that`s true, it`s been a while for me but i think even if you were very powerful palantiri didn`t allow you to see into the future, only into the past. I think it was clarified in the Unfinished Tales. I think Gandalf also only talked about past events but it wasn`t that clear since he mentioned like you said "trough time"
I'd like to believe that Rangs is a deliberate exercise in source-defiling malice because that would at least have some creative energy behind it, but never ascribe to malice whan can be ascribed to pure, unfiltered, Dunning Kruger-induced incompetence
As a Welshman I loved the fact that they had so many Welsh actors and actresses on the show, and then I watched it and I was deeply embarrassed and quickly wished they weren't Welsh 😂
So glad you mentioned P.J.'s documentaries. I remember watching them all in a row all day long right after The LOTR movies on Christmas holidays a few years ago. That was the best trilogy aftertaste you can only imagine. Roughly 18 hours of pure pleasure, much better than RoP.
The problem is that those in charge of making this show believe they are making a masterpiece. They are delusional levels are at the levels of Norma Desmond coming down the stairs in Sunset Boulevard, " I am ready for my closeup Mr. Deville.".
Prompt: craft a nonsensical story loosely based on Tolkien but write as if you were a 6 year old with severe brain damage. Add a good measure of Identity politics. Desecrate everything that the author stood for. If I tell that to Chat GPT it still does way better than Amazon
@@pepincuatro2865 tGPT 4o mini You said: "Craft a nonsensical story loosely based on Tolkien, but write as if you were a 6 year old with sever brain damage. Add a good measure of identity politics. Desecrate everything the author stands for." ChatGPT said: Once upon a time in a wiggly place called Noodleland, there were funny creatures called Squigglefrogs. They had big googly eyes and loved to wear socks on their heads. One day, they found a shiny rock that sparkled like candy but was actually a magical Do-Nothing Stone. The Squigglefrogs wanted to use the Do-Nothing Stone to decide who got to be the best at bouncing. But some of the frogs said, "Wait! What about the Snickerdoodle Fairies? They can bounce too!" The fairies had fluffy wings and were really good at making everyone happy with their tickle magic. So, instead of a bouncing contest, they decided to have a dance party where everyone could show their moves. The fairies twirled, and the frogs did the wiggly worm. Even the Grumpy Troll showed up, wearing a tutu and dancing like a spaghetti noodle! They all talked about how important it was for everyone to bounce and dance in their own special way, even if it was silly. Some frogs wanted to hop backward, and some fairies wanted to spin around in circles. They all cheered for each other, even when someone accidentally fell into a puddle of rainbow jelly. In the end, they realized that the Do-Nothing Stone wasn’t about being the best; it was about being friends and having fun. And so, Noodleland became a place where everyone, whether they had socks on their heads or wings made of glitter, could bounce and dance together forever. The end!
@@pepincuatro2865 Object permanence is grasped around ages 5-8 months. The writers are yet to grasp that so naturally ChatGPT would do better with those instructions. Now maybe if you changed the year to month it could be closer.
Rory Kinnear, who plays Bombadil, is actually a very good and quality actor. Tells me everything about their skills as writers when they make him of all people look foolish on screen
That's Rory Kinnear?! (I only watch reaction videos to this show, not the show itself, and am not actively looking at the screen most of the time either. So I didn't notice.) You're right. He's so good at his job, it's almost criminal that he's in this mess, and I hope he got his bag for it. (He acted in one of my favorite episodes of all television: Season 3, Episode 3 of Showtime's Penny Dreadful. It was a bottle episode with almost no lines of dialogue from anyone but Kinnear and Eva Green. It was devastating and perfect, even though the show went off the rails immediately afterwards and that was the last good episode of its run. I still think about it years later.)
Among the most American things I've ever seen. It's like you were daydreaming about the engineering and aesthetics of a great car or bike, then someone kicks down your door, sticks a firearm in your mouth, and with a maniacal grin and tears streaming down their face screams "WHEELS ARE CIRCLES!", and after frantically trying to discern a response that won't end badly you realise there isn't one, it's all a gamble in the face of madness. Well, that's the vibe I get from it anyway.
He's one of the passable actors of this abomination. Regardless the absurdity of the script, he and the Celebrimbor guy are the best actors of the cast.
@@ItsNotaTuhmah Celebrimbor can act but he has the massive problem in that he is far too old to play an elf. Elves don't get wrinkles being ageless and all. Bare in mind Elrond is triple his age and Gladriel is almost quadruple it by the war of the ring.
You were supposed to notice the silhouette of the stalagmite growing to indicate that Soupron was gurgling away for a long time. From having a guess at how big it sis upposed to be in the before and after scenes, however, and doing some (very rough) calculations about 2000 years would have passed between just those two shots. Morgoth was defeated in the last year of the First Age - which is when, presumably Adar soups Sauron who tries to claim his crown. By year 500 of the Second Age, Sauron is stirring in Middle-earth and he is building Barad-dur by SA1000. The sack of Eregion is in SA1697. All, apparently, whilst he is still glooping around in the bottom of a cave eating ze boogs. What an utter abomination this show is.
that would be my only question to the show runners " in which year of the second age are we right now?" because the 19 rings where made between 1500 and 1600 S.A. and Isildur was born in 3209...
@@belegur8108 The hilarious thing to me is that the entire timeline is completely f**ked up and they generally don't even seem to acknowledge time passing at all. And then when they finally do (by trying to be clever with the stalagmite) - they even screw that up. 🙄 And who the hell looked at that scene of gloop-Sauron rolling off a rock and getting run over and said "yep, that's great".
I would bet my life savings that the showrunners of Rings of Power have never watched the behind-the-scenes appendices from the extended editions of the LOTR movies. You'd think that would be PRIME research material to understand what goes into creating an authentic final product.
So she laughed out loud at this emotional scene - maybe bcs she remembered that canonically Elrond was kissing his mother-in-law. On her lips. Wonder what Celebrian (his wife and Galadriel's and Celeborn's daughter) would have said to that.
They're so proud of making Galadriel and Sauron an item that they've hilariously taken Galadriel from being the wisest and powerful being in the setting and making her a little brat who's the cause of all evil. They're so stupid they didn't realize that by trying to make it more feminist, they made it *realistically* feminist, you know, just the worst.
Good point. There are several instances in Tolkien of an evil man becoming obsessed with a noble woman - Melkor/Varda, Maeglin/Idril, Gríma/Éowyn - so Sauron fancying the real Galadriel is believable. But he would never fall for this petulant, miserable teenage girl calling herself Galadriel.
I've seen someone commenting that Galadriel loves a terrible, evil man because she's just So Good and So Wise and So Far Above Mere Humans because her age and elvenness means she transcends silly mortal judgments like "good" or "evil." ("Silly mortal judgments like good or evil" against, you know. The Dark Lord. Just as a reminder of what we're talking about. Mind you, Galadriel still judges the hell out of orcs, other elves, and all, so she clearly hasn't transcended anything -- but that didn't occur to this commenter.) This commenter thought those imagined qualities made Galadriel the best, most feminine pinnacle of womanhood that no mere human could aspire to be like. But she herself could, of course, identify with all of that because she was trying to embody all of those qualities herself. The comment itself came off even more delusional than my summary here. But, basically, Galadriel exists on this show as a self-insert for the type of woman who dates men she knows are awful, because she sees herself as above judgment of banalities like good or evil!!! (Also because those awful men are hot.) I'm a woman and that does not represent me at all, so I dunno if I am legally allowed to call myself a woman in the year 2024.
@@joywagner979 SHE STARTED THE SERIES OFF HUNTING HIM FOR MILLENNIA BECAUSE HE KILLED HER BROTHER lmao do these people not even pay attention to the show they pretend to like?
@@Will_Parker Right?!?! But I guess they think she's, like, So Awesome because she forgave him for all that (once she found out he could put a glamor on to make himself look hot)! How Christlike or something! How similar to slags who meet dudes who treat them like trash, dislike those dudes for treating them like trash, but bang them anyway for some reason and then spend the rest of their dismal relationships "forgiving" and excusing every single subsequent awful thing those awful dudes do. Because Strong Women ™️ stand by their men!! Even if their men are the greatest forces of evil ever known to the world. ... this is supposedly feminism?! I know modern feminism is obnoxious, but think even feminists worth their salt would find this offensive.
i have many problems with this show but my biggest problem with this show is Elves are not looking like Elves and NO i'm not even talking about the diversity actors, i'm talking about the aesthetics. let me explain, in Peter Jackson's trilogy when i see the Elves it feels like they are higher beings than humans, they look beautiful/handsome, they look noble, its hard to explain but they look like they are not from this world, when i see Cate Blanchett's Galadriel for the first time i said to myself wow she looks like an angel for example. the outifts and glow effects makes them different from humans, when you see them first time their own lothlorien theme starts to play and it makes everything so much better and even their walking looks different than humans on many scenes. just watch Haldir and his soldiers arrive at the Helm's Deep scene,compare those Elves with the humans around the fortress, just listen the awesome music and you'll understand what i mean. the RoP elves on the other hand looks like regular people with pointy ears and funny enough i've seem one "elf" on one of the Nerdrotic's videos and she was exactly looking like my highschool math teacher but with an ancient Greek dress and pointy ears... idk what to say to these showrunners tbh, its either they are too egoistic and out of touch with the audience or they just hate Tolkien and his fans.
Aletori went on a 10 minute rant in her S2 finale review about the Elves not looking like Elves. And she's not even a Tolkien expert. She just saw the Jackson films years ago. She was talking about them in general in fiction, how they're near universally represented. There's an agreed upon depiction and it's not out of shape, NORMAL looking people.
I do feel for Ismael, the guy who plays Arondir. Most actors work their whole life for this kind of opportunity and good shows and movies often don't get the attention they deserve and get cancelled constantly because of lack of marketing, budgets and a thousand other reasons. He gave a humble response and I respect that. The fact that the shows doesn't know what to do with him is completely beyond his control.
All I hear in the back of my head is Barbossa sneering it's more like guidelines than actual ruless and they went and Fanfic'd the book they didn't get rights to. Sad.
I love Felicia Day in Supernatural. Her character Charlie is a pretty cool chick. She is a fan of Tolkien, but I'm sure Amazon had a script for her to follow and sometimes the truth accidentally came out of her mouth lol
I love this show, i have never seen a single minute of it on tv yet somehow have gotten more laughs out of it than most comedies. Its great, sad people are actually watching it, but very funny.
I'd guess they got the idea that a Palantir can reveal the future by copying Galadriel showing the scouring of the shire in the fellowship. They watched it once and didn't realise she didn't use a Palantir.
I think the most shocking thing about this video is how different Felicia Day looks. Admittedly I haven't watched anything with her in it for about five years (whether on youtube or elsewhere) but wow has she changed. She's got what looks like by my guess some serious cosmetic filler pillow face going on there over the past couple of years. It took me about 10 minutes into this video to even recognize her.
@@Patterner Yeah, it is. I literally had to look up the credits online to make sure because even after I noticed the resemblence I wasn't fully confident in it. FWIW, I last saw her in something was around 2020 and she's 45 now (just looked it up).
15:30 the bulgarian womens choir thing: Obviously, bulgarian choirs just kinda entered the consciousness of western music theory culture in the last few years. I remember Adam Neely talking about it. Whatever. So that's probably why he the composer chose to use that. FWIW I'm just glad he chose something that's actually real. Because 99.99% of the time (not exaggerating at all) when western filmmakers want "middle eastern" music in their scores, they are referring to a vague made-up "orientalist" musical style which doesn't actually correspond to any real place at all, but originates in the west and amounts ultimately to "foreign desert vibes bro". I'm glad they chose bulgarian choirs instead of _that_. Check out Farya Faraji's really awesome video about it if you want to learn more.
It's just like how Mongolian Throatsinging suddenly entered the mainstream musical zeitgeist not that long ago. For those of us lucky enough to have heard it years before hand, there is a strange feeling of hollow cheapness to how it suddenly starts popping up all over the place, in many supposedly disparate projects. It quickly lost its novelty and became somewhat of a meme. TL;DR Hollywood ruins everything. Genuine ethnic music is cool.
Bear is too good for this project. It's like with John Williams in the Sequel trilogy, the music generally sucked with a few notable exceptions, and it was because the source material the composer had to work with sucked too.
I had to stop listening to this video while working earlier because I was on a rooftop and the edge started calling to me whenever the cast or crew were talking
Nobody tell Jonny that Sauron was in that puddle for 1000 years, meaning it Adar was the "Sauron" that Galadriel was hunting in season 1 even tho full armoured Sauron was in the opening of season 1............and Jesus my brain hurts trying to understand this shit show🥴🥴
Subscribed, I didn't watch this mini docu-series (thankfully) but thank you for the concise breakdown and dismantling of the show so I don't have to waste my time on it.
GilgaDaddy: Omg they started a ‘sexual harassment’ train, they’re are openly celebrating it, and they’re trying to get the ‘fans’ to join in on the (‘fun’)?
Hard disagree. Tolkien would find his material being distorted and diluted into a bland morass where every other question is about who is hooking up with who to be totally * checks fellow kid lingo * "brat". His words, not mine. Now keep eating the bugs, gents.
In an interview: *“Patrick McKay pointed out that they have a lot of leeway to fill in the gaps in the lore as long as they're not egregiously contradicting the source material”* - WHO decides what is egregiously contradicting source material?!? Because they clearly HAVE!
Yep, we are known for our deserts. But I must say our folk music is really great and I was heartbroken when I saw they used it. If you watched Akira you can hear great closing song.
You continue to entertain me with your witty words and sassy way of presenting this dire sewer rot to us. As I say, thanks for suffering (with a notepad) for us. Respect where it's due, Jonny! ❤❤
funfact: and i am for sure not the first to point that out but these "couple of years" or that "ade to black single afternoon" between Sauron being stabbed turned to a blob and taking new shape... those are in fact, according to lore, something about 1500years in between. of which Galadriel spent just about 800 years to look for him.
4:28 i saw one of these earlier interviews on this set and it opened with raucous audience applause but never showed an audience nor was there any other sound an actual audience might make
9:04 Fair point on "brat", but I don’t think psychological trauma was even officially recognized as an issue before Tolkien died. Iirc, most of the reaserch on PSTD was only conducted with Vietnam war veterans, well into the XX century. Which doesn’t mean it wasn’t a problem before. It just had another name, like Shell Shock or Soldier's Heart. I'd say it would be fair to say Frodo was traumatized after the war, no? Even if that is not the word JRRT would have used at the time. I can’t comment on the content of her words, but I think (part of) the vocabulary is understanble, no?
Hello Jonny Law is there anyway you could get your rings of power season 2 playlist to go in the order of the episodes airing instead of starting from the last and going to the first, i like falling asleep to that playlist but having it start at the end throws me off. Sure you could make the argument that i could have easily made the playlist myself within the time it took me to write out this paragraph but I always go the channel to get to the playlist and if i make it myself I never go to my own created playlists.
The best thing I can say about RoP is that it is utterly absymal. We can all laugh at a failed attempt at cheapening and commercializing Tolkien. Had RoP successfully cheapened and commercialized JRRT by attaining "meh", that would have been worse.
I’m hoping it’s not dead there are some good story lines like Gandalf, Nori, Kaza Dun and Balrog, and Isildur storylines. That’s pretty much why I have hope for it.
the worst thing about rings of power, one of many, is the total failure to describe the timescale, time going by or even tangible miles they fail to showcase, its insane
I’m getting used to that ‘stach, and I hate myself for it! Please Jonny-shave, or go for the Evil Spock goatee!! EDIT: What am I saying? Jonny is a shy little boy, and I shouldn’t be picking on him! I just won’t look at the screen from now on, it’s not like I’d be missing riveting tv clips from whatever show he’s roasting.
I was really expecting them to mention getting inspiration for the blob regeneration scene from Interview with a vampire. That scene was an almost verbatim ripoff of Lestat regenerating & healing after almost getting killed by Louie. The fact that they didn't mention it makes me think it was more theft then homage.
This is the problem in the age of AI written scripts and CGI green screens - all of these actors are completely clueless about what are characters are supposed to be. It's very interesting to watch this "Making off" documentary because it truly makes mockery of the source material. The actors have clearly no idea about the story or why they were part of it - and in that situation asking anything of substance, beyond the vibes, is just comical.
I assume the actors have read their parts of the scripts, and I fully understand not knowing what the hell is going off based on the nonsense that the scripts must be. It's just a shame that there are only 2 actors in the show as far as I can tell (possibly 3, I only watch reviews so can't be certain), the rest are activists that should be gluing themselves to the bottom of the ocean.
I believe this Tolkien quote says it all, “Half of the fans of Tolkien didn’t finish season One of Rings of Power, half as well as Amazon should like; and they liked even less than half of Season Two half as well.”
So to be fair I want to point out one slight inaccuracy on Johnny's part. The Silmarillion covers the FIRST AGE, with additional content at the end that covers the downfall of Numenor and then the story of Sauron and the Rings. The Appendices of LOTR does include some second age material in The Tale of Years which is the basis (not really) of Amazon's story
"We are such a nice group of people" is something actual nice people would never feel the need to say.
"We're having a Good Time " - Dusty Slay and Finland's Russian president ("happiest country in the world").
it's like a "gourmet" deli calling itself gourmet. if it's real, you don't need to say it.
Exactly
Fr, reminded me of those guys on datings apps that go "i'm a nice guy" ... bruh, way to wave the red flag.
It's funny when Hank Hill says it. But them again they're coming out with a revival of that show in modern day so it'll just end up like this show
It took 1 BILLION Dollars and a shitty show to spawn Jonny Law into existence. We won, amazon...
Halo introducedme to Jonny 😂
looooooooooooooool
Well said.
Can’t wait for 5 years down the line when some of the actors can finally say what they really think about their character and the show
Kinda like how GoT actors were able to …
I lied on a job application and said I knew Avid editing software. I got the job and then spent the next two weeks binging Avid tutorials on RUclips to be prepared for the job. I don’t think any of these actors have read any Tolkien.
you're probably right. And those who have clearly didn't understand it
There was an interview where they were asked simple questions by the books. Galadriel struggled to answer Frodo's sword name.
I bet production would have called her "stuck in the past" or "anti-progressive" if she revealed she knew too much about that old decrepit movie series that happened sometime in the dark ages. Back when elves looked androgynous and -- wait. THEY'VE ACHIEVED NOTHING 👏.
What's more impressive is they've played the role for two seasons and do you think they've read any since then?
@@Elador97 Who knew that Galadriel was such a bigot #SwordsNamesMatter
Been reading The Fall of Gondolin recently and the imagery of Elves being these tall, beautiful, noble, troubled, honourable beings is just so Alive and Vivid...
It's almost like the show writers haven't read a single line of Tolkien 🤔
They've consumed more lines of coke than Tolkien🤥
They're supposed to be tall, regal & beautiful...not whatever this is.
It's worse than ignorance. I'm convinced they have read the books and thought "I can do better than this.....and make it less outdated and pRoBlemAtIc"
Eldar don't talk like Californians. Even men don't talk like that in Tolkien's world. Hence the show is mundane af.
Just look at Children of Hurin and take a look at conversations between Turin and Beleg. Or Tuor and Voronwë in Fall of Gondolin. Every conversation is heavy, everything they talk about is life and death seriousness to it or else people are silent and silence has a lot of power in Tolkien's dialogue. Nobody jokes (in the modern Marvel sense), nobody mocks/jests with each other without death soon to follow (see Sairos). Elves and men are in a hostile world and everyone has deep sorrows. That is why Tolkien's works have a completely different pathos than what is presented in this awful show.
"So let's make this poetry come to life, glue those ears on and don that curtain."
Something interesting to note. Most actors manage to separate themselves from their characters in interviews; referring to the characters in the third person. Whereas these people use the first person when talking about the characters they play.
Big thonk.
That's crazy interesting. They are so disgustingly selfish it looks so amateur like they're completely oblivious, and the way they talk about themselves and only the most shallow aspects makes it look like they have put zero thought into the character, dilemmas, and the world
Its interesting you say everyone knew the stranger was gandalf at season 1 episode 1. Because the showrunners gave an interview where they said THEY didn’t know it was gandalf 😂
Maybe I was the show runner all along 🤫
I always said it's not Gandalf because it's the Second Age... I'm holding onto that and sitting in my stubbornness pretty hard.😅 (This is why I never made it past the 3rd episode S1 and now only watch reviews)
No, it was the friends that you made on the way @@JonnyLawYT
@@JonnyLawYTDun dun duuuuuun😂
I suspect there is a strong element of making it up as they went and not properly planning anything. But I refuse to believe that they did not know what they were doing at the very least by the time that they dropped the "always follow your nose" line on us. I think maybe they just had not quite made their minds up if they could get away with actually naming him as Gandalf. I mean, even when they do its in a slightly weaselly "I will be known as" way. Given that even canon draws some distinctions between grey and white, they could leverage to say that this is just a previous incarnation. "Gandalf" is still not going to arrive until some time later, this is just him in a past life or some such bollocks.
I don't look forward to the show, only the reviews haha
That is the only good that has come from Amazon's (Bezos's) vanity project.
However, the net benefit to human civilization, history, and art that the RoP has contributed is a net negative.
It is, ultimately, a symptom of modern cultural decline.
Same 😅
Same. also nerd of the rings picking out tiny details on screen and tell an actual story based on the books
Same 😂
Disparu is the best 😂
I was an SA on this (extra) playing an Orc. One of the worst jobs in my life. Did 2 weeks in a forest outside of Windsor in February (only to be interupted by Princ William and Kate) only to get replaced with no explanation. Had to refuse countless jobs for this, never got them back. Fuck this production, I hope it fails everywhere
Any insights on how they work (besides randomly firing people without explanation) and if the actors really think they're recording something great?
This myth that no evil person thinks they are evil needs to go away.
Some evil people genuine know they are evil and get pleasure from it. They simply enjoy evil and predation and manipulation, etc.
Some psychopaths would be bored by their own actions if they thought they were being righteous or working to the greater good.
But to be fair you have house of dragons where the characters in any other context would be evil without redemption but people see them as the protagonist and hope for their victory. For example daemon
@frankiekl87 lmao I'm pretty sure people who support daemon know he's not a good guy. That's kind of the point.
"Some evil people genuine know they are evil and get pleasure from it. They simply enjoy evil and predation and manipulation, etc.
Some psychopaths would be bored by their own actions if they thought they were being righteous or working to the greater good." one, that's one hell of a strawman, and two it's just a tv show! get a grip ya damn outrage junkie.....
@@chrisplourde1690 You are wrong.
There is evil in this world that enjoys its malice laden nature.
@@Soniti1324 Wow, did you miss the point.
These people don't give a shit about Tolkien's works, they don't know anything about the books or the previous movies, actually they probably hate them and consider them weird, boring, not sexy and ultimately fascist.
literally no doubt about any of the above.
That actor who talked about the political situation involving the blind queen actually made the show sounds interesting 😅
I know right? Maybe if they let him write his own lines, the Numenorean scenes would be bearable.
I’d listen to anything said in a strong enough Welsh accent
@@triciacarr5019Maybe if they let him write the screenplay the whole show would be bearable.
It never fails to infuriate me that she's playing a character who was literally specified by Tolkien to have the palest skin of any woman alive.
The most monumental episode of television she's ever seen? If she truly thinks that, then she hasn't watched a lot of tv shows.
To be fair, there isn't much tv worth watching coming from the West these days, including that episode she's talking about. I've only seen 40 minutes of Cringe of Power and I've definitely seen my share.
@@Syaniiti If we're just going by new tv shows then she must not be watching House of the Dragon to think anything in Rings of Power is epic.
But you have to remember - you've not seen what I have seen@@Syaniiti
@@mms5337 And if that's more than 40 minutes of Cringe of Power, let's keep it that way.
“My favorite part of middle earth is the part I completely made up cause I’m smarter than Jk Tolkien or whatever his name is”
Yes, nothing says "high king of Gondor" like subservience and shared trauma. I'm convinced though that the show has gone full Monty Python at this stage, choosing rulers based on who a woman gives a sword to (we'd already had choosing rulers based on who stands next to an animal). Can we please have peasant in Gondor going on a rant about this in season 3? I might even promise to tune in for that,
I don't doubt that many of the actors are nice people that you could have a laugh with. Just don't mistake them for people you could nerd out about Tolkien with. Unless maybe they do actually know the lore but are forbidden from talking about it on the clock. Its certainly quite depressing how obsessed they all are in public with shipping every character in sight.
I am willing to bet serious cash that not a single one could summarize a chapter from any of Tolkien's books but that is just me.
The pacing is akin to sir Lancelots charge on the swamp castle
"Just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at you" apparently does make you king of men 😂.
This show singlehandedly saved the foam industry. Show some respect!
15:00 Yes, Bulgaria does have a desert. One of only 2 in all of Europe. We even used to have wild native camels. The Jackson movies also used Bulgarian folk music as background music in some instances. Haven't heard it in video games, but it is popular in fantasy movies. Don't know how you could say something is both "generic" and "doesn't fit" at the same time, but I guess since LotR is based on celtic/norse myth, you'd rather have Scottish bagpipes in the soundtrack. But Bulgarian anything fits just fine.
The Bulgarian language also has influence in Tolkien's writing. Several characters have names in Bulgarian, like Boromir (boro = pine forest, mir = peace) which is one letter away from the real life Bulgarian name Borimir ("fights for peace"). There's also the Balrog, which roughly translates to "white horn" in Bulgarian.
Bulgarian history also had an influence on the story of LotR. We all know the parallels b/w the west/east roman empires and Arnor/Gondor. But there's also parallels b/w the siege of Minas Tirith and the siege of Constantinople of 717, where the invading Arabs held an empire to the east and south of the Byzantines, like the easterling and haradrim allies of Mordor. During that siege the Bulgarian cavalry hit the arabs from the rear to relieve the city, just like the Rohirim hit the armies of Mordor. Even the army sizes are comparable.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Was about to say something.
"Why Bulgaria? How about the Middle East?"
_Well... from a certain point of view..._
Thank you for educating us
Thanks for sharing! It’s interesting how Tolkien was able to draw from history yet make it interesting.
Tolkien was influenced by all Slavic people, not only Bulgarians. Boromir or variations of the name are found in all Slavic langugages
I'll say it again: these stupid media bobbleheads are one TV show away from shipping Hitler with Winston Churchill.
Blasphemy. Everyone knows that Churchill-Stalin-FDR is the true love triangle of WW2.
Also, Churchill is quoted as saying some very gay shit about FDR.
My grandma told me....
I don't care what they taught you in school, Hitler and Churchill were a couple
I don't care what they teach you in school, Churchill and Hitler were shagging during the blitz
I don't care what they told you in school Emperor Hirohito was Black
Johnny, love your channel. I agree with you on absolutely everything involving the abysmal Rings of Puke. However, just one point of house keeping: the Palantiri could look into the future (provided the user had sufficient mental strength, and depending on proximity). Speaking of the Palantiri, this explanation from the Silmarillion: "Now these Stones had this virtue that those who looked therein might perceive in them things far off, whether in place *or in time*. For the most part they revealed only things near to another kindred Stone, for the Stones each called to each; but those who possessed great strength of will and of mind might learn to direct their gaze whither they would."
Sorry i don`t think that`s true, it`s been a while for me but i think even if you were very powerful palantiri didn`t allow you to see into the future, only into the past. I think it was clarified in the Unfinished Tales. I think Gandalf also only talked about past events but it wasn`t that clear since he mentioned like you said "trough time"
I'd like to believe that Rangs is a deliberate exercise in source-defiling malice because that would at least have some creative energy behind it, but never ascribe to malice whan can be ascribed to pure, unfiltered, Dunning Kruger-induced incompetence
Nice to know Mirial is not blind because her blind ✌acting✌ in the show was sooooo convincing
Pretty ableist of Amazon to cast a seeing person to play a blind character.
As a Welshman I loved the fact that they had so many Welsh actors and actresses on the show, and then I watched it and I was deeply embarrassed and quickly wished they weren't Welsh 😂
It is so very shallow made by very shallow people.
So glad you mentioned P.J.'s documentaries. I remember watching them all in a row all day long right after The LOTR movies on Christmas holidays a few years ago. That was the best trilogy aftertaste you can only imagine. Roughly 18 hours of pure pleasure, much better than RoP.
The problem is that those in charge of making this show believe they are making a masterpiece. They are delusional levels are at the levels of Norma Desmond coming down the stairs in Sunset Boulevard, " I am ready for my closeup Mr. Deville.".
"Alexa, produce a TV series that has Tolkien in the search, and is good for around 5 seasons"...Hello!
Let play this game: What where the A.I. instructions that Amazon used to generate the script?
Oh, please, there is no way AI is this bad.
Prompt: craft a nonsensical story loosely based on Tolkien but write as if you were a 6 year old with severe brain damage. Add a good measure of Identity politics. Desecrate everything that the author stood for.
If I tell that to Chat GPT it still does way better than Amazon
@@pepincuatro2865
tGPT 4o mini
You said:
"Craft a nonsensical story loosely based on Tolkien, but write as if you were a 6 year old with sever brain damage. Add a good measure of identity politics. Desecrate everything the author stands for."
ChatGPT said:
Once upon a time in a wiggly place called Noodleland, there were funny creatures called Squigglefrogs. They had big googly eyes and loved to wear socks on their heads. One day, they found a shiny rock that sparkled like candy but was actually a magical Do-Nothing Stone.
The Squigglefrogs wanted to use the Do-Nothing Stone to decide who got to be the best at bouncing. But some of the frogs said, "Wait! What about the Snickerdoodle Fairies? They can bounce too!" The fairies had fluffy wings and were really good at making everyone happy with their tickle magic.
So, instead of a bouncing contest, they decided to have a dance party where everyone could show their moves. The fairies twirled, and the frogs did the wiggly worm. Even the Grumpy Troll showed up, wearing a tutu and dancing like a spaghetti noodle!
They all talked about how important it was for everyone to bounce and dance in their own special way, even if it was silly. Some frogs wanted to hop backward, and some fairies wanted to spin around in circles. They all cheered for each other, even when someone accidentally fell into a puddle of rainbow jelly.
In the end, they realized that the Do-Nothing Stone wasn’t about being the best; it was about being friends and having fun. And so, Noodleland became a place where everyone, whether they had socks on their heads or wings made of glitter, could bounce and dance together forever. The end!
@@pepincuatro2865 Unironically you should tell GPT to do that, and paste the results here.
@@pepincuatro2865 Object permanence is grasped around ages 5-8 months. The writers are yet to grasp that so naturally ChatGPT would do better with those instructions. Now maybe if you changed the year to month it could be closer.
work from 9am to 5pm..thesame fckng day sometimes🤣🤣🤣 that was gold hahaha
Rory Kinnear, who plays Bombadil, is actually a very good and quality actor. Tells me everything about their skills as writers when they make him of all people look foolish on screen
That's Rory Kinnear?! (I only watch reaction videos to this show, not the show itself, and am not actively looking at the screen most of the time either. So I didn't notice.)
You're right. He's so good at his job, it's almost criminal that he's in this mess, and I hope he got his bag for it.
(He acted in one of my favorite episodes of all television: Season 3, Episode 3 of Showtime's Penny Dreadful. It was a bottle episode with almost no lines of dialogue from anyone but Kinnear and Eva Green.
It was devastating and perfect, even though the show went off the rails immediately afterwards and that was the last good episode of its run. I still think about it years later.)
Among the most American things I've ever seen.
It's like you were daydreaming about the engineering and aesthetics of a great car or bike, then someone kicks down your door, sticks a firearm in your mouth, and with a maniacal grin and tears streaming down their face screams "WHEELS ARE CIRCLES!", and after frantically trying to discern a response that won't end badly you realise there isn't one, it's all a gamble in the face of madness.
Well, that's the vibe I get from it anyway.
This hallbrand actor look like any regular guy on the street who hangs out att night clubs every weekend🤣
He's one of the passable actors of this abomination. Regardless the absurdity of the script, he and the Celebrimbor guy are the best actors of the cast.
@@ItsNotaTuhmah yes I agree but I think Celembrimbor reminds me more of a hobbit and I can’t get past it
@@ItsNotaTuhmah Celebrimbor can act but he has the massive problem in that he is far too old to play an elf. Elves don't get wrinkles being ageless and all.
Bare in mind Elrond is triple his age and Gladriel is almost quadruple it by the war of the ring.
@@DaciValt Sure. He might have been Gandalf or the other mage, or a human, idk.
Anyway, this series is a mess.
You were supposed to notice the silhouette of the stalagmite growing to indicate that Soupron was gurgling away for a long time. From having a guess at how big it sis upposed to be in the before and after scenes, however, and doing some (very rough) calculations about 2000 years would have passed between just those two shots.
Morgoth was defeated in the last year of the First Age - which is when, presumably Adar soups Sauron who tries to claim his crown. By year 500 of the Second Age, Sauron is stirring in Middle-earth and he is building Barad-dur by SA1000. The sack of Eregion is in SA1697. All, apparently, whilst he is still glooping around in the bottom of a cave eating ze boogs.
What an utter abomination this show is.
that would be my only question to the show runners " in which year of the second age are we right now?" because the 19 rings where made between 1500 and 1600 S.A. and Isildur was born in 3209...
@@belegur8108 The hilarious thing to me is that the entire timeline is completely f**ked up and they generally don't even seem to acknowledge time passing at all. And then when they finally do (by trying to be clever with the stalagmite) - they even screw that up. 🙄
And who the hell looked at that scene of gloop-Sauron rolling off a rock and getting run over and said "yep, that's great".
I would bet my life savings that the showrunners of Rings of Power have never watched the behind-the-scenes appendices from the extended editions of the LOTR movies. You'd think that would be PRIME research material to understand what goes into creating an authentic final product.
Bro, we've talked about this
Stop betting your life savings on random Internet shit 😅😅😅
Damn that Bulgarian women's choir hits hard!
Another episode of watching Johnny suffering through RoP.
Woot.
Did you remember to eat ZE BUGS today Jonny?
So she laughed out loud at this emotional scene - maybe bcs she remembered that canonically Elrond was kissing his mother-in-law. On her lips. Wonder what Celebrian (his wife and Galadriel's and Celeborn's daughter) would have said to that.
holy crap, all of them giving me the shiver just by looking at them.... something sinister and evil.
They're so proud of making Galadriel and Sauron an item that they've hilariously taken Galadriel from being the wisest and powerful being in the setting and making her a little brat who's the cause of all evil. They're so stupid they didn't realize that by trying to make it more feminist, they made it *realistically* feminist, you know, just the worst.
Good point. There are several instances in Tolkien of an evil man becoming obsessed with a noble woman - Melkor/Varda, Maeglin/Idril, Gríma/Éowyn - so Sauron fancying the real Galadriel is believable. But he would never fall for this petulant, miserable teenage girl calling herself Galadriel.
I've seen someone commenting that Galadriel loves a terrible, evil man because she's just So Good and So Wise and So Far Above Mere Humans because her age and elvenness means she transcends silly mortal judgments like "good" or "evil."
("Silly mortal judgments like good or evil" against, you know. The Dark Lord. Just as a reminder of what we're talking about.
Mind you, Galadriel still judges the hell out of orcs, other elves, and all, so she clearly hasn't transcended anything -- but that didn't occur to this commenter.)
This commenter thought those imagined qualities made Galadriel the best, most feminine pinnacle of womanhood that no mere human could aspire to be like. But she herself could, of course, identify with all of that because she was trying to embody all of those qualities herself.
The comment itself came off even more delusional than my summary here.
But, basically, Galadriel exists on this show as a self-insert for the type of woman who dates men she knows are awful, because she sees herself as above judgment of banalities like good or evil!!! (Also because those awful men are hot.)
I'm a woman and that does not represent me at all, so I dunno if I am legally allowed to call myself a woman in the year 2024.
@@joywagner979 SHE STARTED THE SERIES OFF HUNTING HIM FOR MILLENNIA BECAUSE HE KILLED HER BROTHER lmao do these people not even pay attention to the show they pretend to like?
@@Will_Parker Right?!?! But I guess they think she's, like, So Awesome because she forgave him for all that (once she found out he could put a glamor on to make himself look hot)! How Christlike or something!
How similar to slags who meet dudes who treat them like trash, dislike those dudes for treating them like trash, but bang them anyway for some reason and then spend the rest of their dismal relationships "forgiving" and excusing every single subsequent awful thing those awful dudes do.
Because Strong Women ™️ stand by their men!! Even if their men are the greatest forces of evil ever known to the world.
... this is supposedly feminism?! I know modern feminism is obnoxious, but think even feminists worth their salt would find this offensive.
I'm actually surprised they didn't get GuyLadriel and Sauron to have a hot 18+ sex scene. 😂
i have many problems with this show but my biggest problem with this show is Elves are not looking like Elves and NO i'm not even talking about the diversity actors, i'm talking about the aesthetics. let me explain, in Peter Jackson's trilogy when i see the Elves it feels like they are higher beings than humans, they look beautiful/handsome, they look noble, its hard to explain but they look like they are not from this world, when i see Cate Blanchett's Galadriel for the first time i said to myself wow she looks like an angel for example. the outifts and glow effects makes them different from humans, when you see them first time their own lothlorien theme starts to play and it makes everything so much better and even their walking looks different than humans on many scenes. just watch Haldir and his soldiers arrive at the Helm's Deep scene,compare those Elves with the humans around the fortress, just listen the awesome music and you'll understand what i mean.
the RoP elves on the other hand looks like regular people with pointy ears and funny enough i've seem one "elf" on one of the Nerdrotic's videos and she was exactly looking like my highschool math teacher but with an ancient Greek dress and pointy ears...
idk what to say to these showrunners tbh, its either they are too egoistic and out of touch with the audience or they just hate Tolkien and his fans.
Aletori went on a 10 minute rant in her S2 finale review about the Elves not looking like Elves. And she's not even a Tolkien expert. She just saw the Jackson films years ago. She was talking about them in general in fiction, how they're near universally represented. There's an agreed upon depiction and it's not out of shape, NORMAL looking people.
I do feel for Ismael, the guy who plays Arondir. Most actors work their whole life for this kind of opportunity and good shows and movies often don't get the attention they deserve and get cancelled constantly because of lack of marketing, budgets and a thousand other reasons.
He gave a humble response and I respect that. The fact that the shows doesn't know what to do with him is completely beyond his control.
I love your computer aesthetic. Purple and green forever
All I hear in the back of my head is Barbossa sneering it's more like guidelines than actual ruless and they went and Fanfic'd the book they didn't get rights to. Sad.
Once you get passed the urge to vomit, the show is pure comedy. Genius writing.
I love Felicia Day in Supernatural. Her character Charlie is a pretty cool chick. She is a fan of Tolkien, but I'm sure Amazon had a script for her to follow and sometimes the truth accidentally came out of her mouth lol
I love this show, i have never seen a single minute of it on tv yet somehow have gotten more laughs out of it than most comedies. Its great, sad people are actually watching it, but very funny.
Saaaame I've literally watched more hours of reviews than there are hours of this show 😅
Blob Sauron 😂😂😂
I'd guess they got the idea that a Palantir can reveal the future by copying Galadriel showing the scouring of the shire in the fellowship. They watched it once and didn't realise she didn't use a Palantir.
I think the most shocking thing about this video is how different Felicia Day looks. Admittedly I haven't watched anything with her in it for about five years (whether on youtube or elsewhere) but wow has she changed. She's got what looks like by my guess some serious cosmetic filler pillow face going on there over the past couple of years. It took me about 10 minutes into this video to even recognize her.
wait, that was Felicia Day? well, if you're 50 you look different.
dollhouse is from 2009, so people change i guess.
@@Patterner Yeah, it is. I literally had to look up the credits online to make sure because even after I noticed the resemblence I wasn't fully confident in it. FWIW, I last saw her in something was around 2020 and she's 45 now (just looked it up).
15:30 the bulgarian womens choir thing: Obviously, bulgarian choirs just kinda entered the consciousness of western music theory culture in the last few years. I remember Adam Neely talking about it. Whatever. So that's probably why he the composer chose to use that. FWIW I'm just glad he chose something that's actually real. Because 99.99% of the time (not exaggerating at all) when western filmmakers want "middle eastern" music in their scores, they are referring to a vague made-up "orientalist" musical style which doesn't actually correspond to any real place at all, but originates in the west and amounts ultimately to "foreign desert vibes bro". I'm glad they chose bulgarian choirs instead of _that_. Check out Farya Faraji's really awesome video about it if you want to learn more.
It's just like how Mongolian Throatsinging suddenly entered the mainstream musical zeitgeist not that long ago. For those of us lucky enough to have heard it years before hand, there is a strange feeling of hollow cheapness to how it suddenly starts popping up all over the place, in many supposedly disparate projects. It quickly lost its novelty and became somewhat of a meme.
TL;DR Hollywood ruins everything. Genuine ethnic music is cool.
Bear is too good for this project. It's like with John Williams in the Sequel trilogy, the music generally sucked with a few notable exceptions, and it was because the source material the composer had to work with sucked too.
“Unless BRAT is short for brain tumor…” I lol’d af bruh 😂
I had to stop listening to this video while working earlier because I was on a rooftop and the edge started calling to me whenever the cast or crew were talking
When Jonny started reading from The Return Of The King my headache started to fade.
Nobody tell Jonny that Sauron was in that puddle for 1000 years, meaning it Adar was the "Sauron" that Galadriel was hunting in season 1 even tho full armoured Sauron was in the opening of season 1............and Jesus my brain hurts trying to understand this shit show🥴🥴
11:52 to be fair he’s a young actor, I don’t like the show either but he was being very honest there
Subscribed, I didn't watch this mini docu-series (thankfully) but thank you for the concise breakdown and dismantling of the show so I don't have to waste my time on it.
jonny, you’re assuming the actors can read. 5:57
@2:32 chucking out the *soccer ball ⚽️
The Bulgarian music is the one good thing actually.
The guy who played Sauron was carrying this whole show on his shoulders.
just noticed the Skies of Arcadia poster in the background. good game. that just took me back 20 years
GilgaDaddy: Omg they started a ‘sexual harassment’ train, they’re are openly celebrating it, and they’re trying to get the ‘fans’ to join in on the (‘fun’)?
2:11 The Return of the King appendices details the events of the second age.
Thanks for entertaining us way more than the series did.
Hard disagree. Tolkien would find his material being distorted and diluted into a bland morass where every other question is about who is hooking up with who to be totally * checks fellow kid lingo * "brat". His words, not mine. Now keep eating the bugs, gents.
Did they interview the third unit lighting assistant?
They think we're morons!
In an interview: *“Patrick McKay pointed out that they have a lot of leeway to fill in the gaps in the lore as long as they're not egregiously contradicting the source material”* - WHO decides what is egregiously contradicting source material?!? Because they clearly HAVE!
Yep, we are known for our deserts. But I must say our folk music is really great and I was heartbroken when I saw they used it. If you watched Akira you can hear great closing song.
You continue to entertain me with your witty words and sassy way of presenting this dire sewer rot to us. As I say, thanks for suffering (with a notepad) for us. Respect where it's due, Jonny! ❤❤
"Do not despair"
Okay.
"We are not quite done with Rings Of Power just yet"
GETTING MIXED MESSAGES HERE.
funfact: and i am for sure not the first to point that out but these "couple of years" or that "ade to black single afternoon" between Sauron being stabbed turned to a blob and taking new shape... those are in fact, according to lore, something about 1500years in between. of which Galadriel spent just about 800 years to look for him.
4:28 i saw one of these earlier interviews on this set and it opened with raucous audience applause but never showed an audience nor was there any other sound an actual audience might make
2:50 Jonny Law, stalagmites grew in that fade-to-black (they take hundreds of years to form)...
By source material, they mean “White Fragility!”
Props to the Pharazon actor for at least trying.
Ohhhh Felicia smh
Looks unrecognizable and sounds like a completely different person. Damn.
Yooo I had no idea that was her. She aged 25 years in 5
it IS HER?! Damn...
Well, she is reportedly 45 years old now. Been a long time since Buffy and The Guild.
I believe there was a Halbrand in the legendarium. Wasn’t he a shopkeeper in Minas Tirth. I don’t know, something like that😂😂😂😂
"Eat the Vibes" guys. 🤣
9:04 Fair point on "brat", but I don’t think psychological trauma was even officially recognized as an issue before Tolkien died. Iirc, most of the reaserch on PSTD was only conducted with Vietnam war veterans, well into the XX century. Which doesn’t mean it wasn’t a problem before. It just had another name, like Shell Shock or Soldier's Heart.
I'd say it would be fair to say Frodo was traumatized after the war, no? Even if that is not the word JRRT would have used at the time.
I can’t comment on the content of her words, but I think (part of) the vocabulary is understanble, no?
Hello Jonny Law is there anyway you could get your rings of power season 2 playlist to go in the order of the episodes airing instead of starting from the last and going to the first, i like falling asleep to that playlist but having it start at the end throws me off. Sure you could make the argument that i could have easily made the playlist myself within the time it took me to write out this paragraph but I always go the channel to get to the playlist and if i make it myself I never go to my own created playlists.
I swear on everything i love i did my first real life spit take when i heard "ring land"
Jonny, you make this would all right, man...
Good vid. Some of these new channels annoy me, but you know what you are talking about. Earned a sub.
At least this "show" brings us some level of entertainment through guys like you. Sooo, that's something, right?
That's all we'll ever get. I take it, but I'd still prefer a world without RoP.
The best thing I can say about RoP is that it is utterly absymal. We can all laugh at a failed attempt at cheapening and commercializing Tolkien. Had RoP successfully cheapened and commercialized JRRT by attaining "meh", that would have been worse.
Your videos are really really well done man! Please keep up the good work!
16:16 Was not expecting a Chris Kamara appearance, sent me rolling.
I’m hoping it’s not dead there are some good story lines like Gandalf, Nori, Kaza Dun and Balrog, and Isildur storylines. That’s pretty much why I have hope for it.
the worst thing about rings of power, one of many, is the total failure to describe the timescale, time going by or even tangible miles they fail to showcase, its insane
Bob the blob aka saurblob 😂
Am I the only one who does not fucking fancy the dude playing Sauron?
I’m getting used to that ‘stach, and I hate myself for it!
Please Jonny-shave, or go for the Evil Spock goatee!!
EDIT: What am I saying? Jonny is a shy little boy, and I shouldn’t be picking on him!
I just won’t look at the screen from now on, it’s not like I’d be missing riveting tv clips from whatever show he’s roasting.
I was really expecting them to mention getting inspiration for the blob regeneration scene from Interview with a vampire. That scene was an almost verbatim ripoff of Lestat regenerating & healing after almost getting killed by Louie. The fact that they didn't mention it makes me think it was more theft then homage.
The cringe is just off the charts. I can't even bear to watch these nauseating excerpts.
This is the problem in the age of AI written scripts and CGI green screens - all of these actors are completely clueless about what are characters are supposed to be. It's very interesting to watch this "Making off" documentary because it truly makes mockery of the source material. The actors have clearly no idea about the story or why they were part of it - and in that situation asking anything of substance, beyond the vibes, is just comical.
I assume the actors have read their parts of the scripts, and I fully understand not knowing what the hell is going off based on the nonsense that the scripts must be. It's just a shame that there are only 2 actors in the show as far as I can tell (possibly 3, I only watch reviews so can't be certain), the rest are activists that should be gluing themselves to the bottom of the ocean.
I believe this Tolkien quote says it all,
“Half of the fans of Tolkien didn’t finish season One of Rings of Power, half as well as Amazon should like; and they liked even less than half of Season Two half as well.”
So to be fair I want to point out one slight inaccuracy on Johnny's part.
The Silmarillion covers the FIRST AGE, with additional content at the end that covers the downfall of Numenor and then the story of Sauron and the Rings.
The Appendices of LOTR does include some second age material in The Tale of Years which is the basis (not really) of Amazon's story
I feel like we now can perform a kame hame ha with the Palantír.
The actor for Elrond with a buzzcut and facial hair looks like he wandered out of a trailer park.
The most elaborate show about eating bugs in the human history