Bought this kit a few months ago when I saw the ad on the Aliexpress web site. The photo for the kit shows what appears to be a F1D model, and I was a little disappointed when I opened the box and that was not the case. However even though the plans leave something to be desired, the kit itself is well engineered and well packaged. There was a Japanese company that kitted several indoor models that were similar to this one, 2 sets of plans one English and one Japanese, but no laser cut parts. Great content Josh!
Yeah my takeaway is that while there are minor issues with the kit, it is in fact very flyable right out of the box. A few modifications would make it better, but it's a very nice living room or gymnasium flyer as is. Color me impressed!
I have ordered and built one of these after watching the video. A few observations are: my model came out 3.54 grams after careful build, the only mods I did was mount the wing posts in rolled tissue tubes. It Flys well, but I don't have a best time to post as I stuck it in the gym rafters during first flying session, but it has been safely recovered. My input: the model is super stable and easy to trim...enough so I want to build another and upgrade as far as I can. I ordered a couple more kits and find the wood density heavily variable from kit to kit, by weight sorting the balsa in a couple kits you can get lighter, also want to cover with true indoor film and use a Harlan's Aluminum prop hanger so I can try some different propellers on the model, I want to try the prop from my Easy B. The stock prop is easy to get to spin true but I have a feeling the blades are to small? It spins at fairly high rpms. A final note is the kit comes with balsa to build (2) complete sets of flying surfaces but only 1 fuselage/motorstick. I know buying more than one kit hoping to win the balsa "lottery" for lighter wood plus the other upgrades I mentioned add cost, but I enjoy modify kits like these to try for more performance, Thanks for the great video content Josh!
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Oh, some very useful bit of info here, thanks! I bet they provided 2 complete sets of flying surface so that you can finish it despite break some part, and/or repair after issue in flight. Good idea weighting the parts and cherry picking the lightest ones! I should probably order 2 or 3 kits.
Just got mine Jan. 2024. They have solved the problem with the propeller spars, they are now a TIGHT fit into the tube. Just barely able to move without a tool. Will never move by accident. Thanks for the great videos.
I remember the old Model Airplane magazines in the 60s had lots of coverage of indoor free flight. Very very light gossamer-winged planes like the example shown here. Looks like the materials have changed slightly but the concept is the same.
We still build them per those old magazines, usually with some design changes that have proven to improve performance and ease of flight, however my 1936 Baby ROG will do a good 10 minutes under a 60' ceiling. Pretty amazing stuff.
I'd say that it's OK for the plan to be out of scale.. I mean, we're mostly working with right angles, so the quick method's fine.. I predict that this will have a torque swing issue. Looking forward to the flight! 👍🌟
Enjoy your videos..especially outdoor rubber, have you shown how to construct a "torque meter" for use of winding rubber motors? Thank you and the wife for sharing .
We have a kit for one and an accompanying build video that shows the assembly and operation, so that *may* help with your quest. I should do a video eventually on making them from scratch.
Hello Joshua, long time fan. I had a question about accelerator. I thought it was not good to use it and was always better to let the glue cure on its own. Can you talk about the do's and don'ts of accelorator
I hate to say this but it's crazzy to see the prices of a legit indoor free flight competition kit it's expensive for what it is a few things pieces of pre cut balsa some light weight covering a plastic piece in some and some rubber and they charge upwards of 100 dollars for some very high end kits but it has bearings in the nose but still it's crazzy but still easier then scratch building these small delicate planes. I used my 3d pen and just drew on some really really ultra thing pieces of filament around wing to mount it more secure and a tiny dog of filament for counter weight and I got 2 minutes of flight out of mine on it's first flight I just got lucky there was a small miniscule up draft in the gymnasium that day
As one of the people producing those high dollar kits, I actually agree with you. 20 years ago a pennyplane kit was 10 bucks. The good news is that the kits now are so much better than those old ones that there's no comparison. Unfortunately most of the rise in cost is due to shockingly high materials costs along with a high labor cost due to the ever rising cost of living. If I turn a $15 profit on a kit, I don't even reach minimum wage.
I'm doing about 2 1/2 minutes on the stock rubber. For what it is, it's an impressive kit. Plenty of room for improvement, especially the prop hub, but it flies better than most indoor kits did 10 years ago.
@@joshuawfinn There is wood for 2 models. Friend ha a kit where one sheet was triple the weight of other sheet. Worth to check weight before building. :-)
It has some issues that could stand to be resolved, as mentioned in the video, but overall it's superior to any indoor kit that was available 10 years ago.
There's seriously a link in the description and half a dozen vendors on Ali carry it. Literally type F1D in the Aliexpress search bar and you'll find a ton of people selling it.
Bought this kit a few months ago when I saw the ad on the Aliexpress web site. The photo for the kit shows what appears to be a F1D model, and I was a little disappointed when I opened the box and that was not the case. However even though the plans leave something to be desired, the kit itself is well engineered and well packaged. There was a Japanese company that kitted several indoor models that were similar to this one, 2 sets of plans one English and one Japanese, but no laser cut parts. Great content Josh!
Yeah my takeaway is that while there are minor issues with the kit, it is in fact very flyable right out of the box. A few modifications would make it better, but it's a very nice living room or gymnasium flyer as is. Color me impressed!
I have ordered and built one of these after watching the video.
A few observations are: my model came out 3.54 grams after careful build, the only mods I did was mount the wing posts in rolled tissue tubes. It Flys well, but I don't have a best time to post as I stuck it in the gym rafters during first flying session, but it has been safely recovered.
My input: the model is super stable and easy to trim...enough so I want to build another and upgrade as far as I can. I ordered a couple more kits and find the wood density heavily variable from kit to kit, by weight sorting the balsa in a couple kits you can get lighter, also want to cover with true indoor film and use a Harlan's Aluminum prop hanger so I can try some different propellers on the model, I want to try the prop from my Easy B.
The stock prop is easy to get to spin true but I have a feeling the blades are to small? It spins at fairly high rpms.
A final note is the kit comes with balsa to build (2) complete sets of flying surfaces but only 1 fuselage/motorstick.
I know buying more than one kit hoping to win the balsa "lottery" for lighter wood plus the other upgrades I mentioned add cost, but I enjoy modify kits like these to try for more performance, Thanks for the great video content Josh!
Oh, some very useful bit of info here, thanks!
I bet they provided 2 complete sets of flying surface so that you can finish it despite break some part, and/or repair after issue in flight.
Good idea weighting the parts and cherry picking the lightest ones! I should probably order 2 or 3 kits.
Just got mine Jan. 2024. They have solved the problem with the propeller spars, they are now a TIGHT fit into the tube. Just barely able to move without a tool. Will never move by accident. Thanks for the great videos.
Thanks for the update!
I remember the old Model Airplane magazines in the 60s had lots of coverage of indoor free flight. Very very light gossamer-winged planes like the example shown here. Looks like the materials have changed slightly but the concept is the same.
We still build them per those old magazines, usually with some design changes that have proven to improve performance and ease of flight, however my 1936 Baby ROG will do a good 10 minutes under a 60' ceiling. Pretty amazing stuff.
Definitely looking forward to seeing if you can make this one fly well.
Just released the footage. Check the video description above for the link. :)
Hi Josh, you mentioned a friend had produced plans In English, could you let me know where I could access these please
Really waiting up there for the test flight plz sir upload the video as soon as possible for F-1D flight 👍
I'd say that it's OK for the plan to be out of scale.. I mean, we're mostly working with right angles, so the quick method's fine.. I predict that this will have a torque swing issue. Looking forward to the flight! 👍🌟
Interesting to see you trying out the 'opposition' 👍
Enjoy your videos..especially outdoor rubber, have you shown how to construct a "torque meter" for use of winding rubber motors? Thank you and the wife for sharing .
We have a kit for one and an accompanying build video that shows the assembly and operation, so that *may* help with your quest. I should do a video eventually on making them from scratch.
looking forward to the flight test video. do you have a link for us to purchase it?
Hi brother very useful video, just yesterday I rec this kit from aliexpress, waiting for glue for assembly
Which glue are you using for balsa wood ?
Hi, can you put a link here showing how to cover the wings etc, thanks.
Great video once again 👏 👍
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Hello Joshua, long time fan. I had a question about accelerator. I thought it was not good to use it and was always better to let the glue cure on its own. Can you talk about the do's and don'ts of accelorator
It is in plain Mandarin any chinese can read! Lol!
BTW the second set of wings are for the acrobatic version...
I hate to say this but it's crazzy to see the prices of a legit indoor free flight competition kit it's expensive for what it is a few things pieces of pre cut balsa some light weight covering a plastic piece in some and some rubber and they charge upwards of 100 dollars for some very high end kits but it has bearings in the nose but still it's crazzy but still easier then scratch building these small delicate planes. I used my 3d pen and just drew on some really really ultra thing pieces of filament around wing to mount it more secure and a tiny dog of filament for counter weight and I got 2 minutes of flight out of mine on it's first flight I just got lucky there was a small miniscule up draft in the gymnasium that day
As one of the people producing those high dollar kits, I actually agree with you. 20 years ago a pennyplane kit was 10 bucks. The good news is that the kits now are so much better than those old ones that there's no comparison. Unfortunately most of the rise in cost is due to shockingly high materials costs along with a high labor cost due to the ever rising cost of living. If I turn a $15 profit on a kit, I don't even reach minimum wage.
Hi, is there any way that i can modify the wing cord to 9cm?
Why do you want to do this?
@@joshuawfinn for a competition
@@joshuawfinn for a competition
@@joshuawfinn for a competition
Is this airplane rubber powered?
Yes.
it's f1D in Chinese racing standard
I got 03:30 with mine, slightly modified and stronger rubber. Video is in my channel. Weight around 4 gram. Not good, not bad.
I'm doing about 2 1/2 minutes on the stock rubber. For what it is, it's an impressive kit. Plenty of room for improvement, especially the prop hub, but it flies better than most indoor kits did 10 years ago.
@@joshuawfinn There is wood for 2 models. Friend ha a kit where one sheet was triple the weight of other sheet. Worth to check weight before building. :-)
Why no link for it?
Because I'm an idiot. Fixed it in the description. Thanks for pointing that out.
How to buy this in Philippines?
Aliexpress.com is the primary source for them.
i watched this whole video and i don't know what to do with this rubberband lol
I also buy from aliexpess
is this legit? your opinion?
It has some issues that could stand to be resolved, as mentioned in the video, but overall it's superior to any indoor kit that was available 10 years ago.
Huh its fake i have not fonded it from aliaxpress
There's seriously a link in the description and half a dozen vendors on Ali carry it. Literally type F1D in the Aliexpress search bar and you'll find a ton of people selling it.
O no u didunt
Oh yes I did!
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