The fact that they advertised leo2a4m in dev blog as having composite armour package installed which will provide similar protection to ones found on 2a7 series but ingame the armour package protection is nowhere near the ones found on 2a7…
Gaijin did an oopsie, the real tank does not have composite in the triangles. There are photos taken by a member of the war thunder forum who operates these vehicles and took photos of the triangles that are shown to not have composite filling and are just empty space
@@jspeneif it's the image with the open hatch on the side of the wedges that hatch and the space inside is literally perfectly shaped to slide a composite block inside just because it's not always there doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all i mean the Canadian government literally said they were being upgraded to the 2A7 standard back when it was done so i doubt a government would get scammed by just installing 20mm wedges onto the front anyways regardless it should be firing Dm53 and not KE-W gaijin just butchered it so they could make it a premium
@@jspene the photos u were talking about wedges being empty someone told me that they are in fact empty during training sessions so that the crew can get some more storage space to keep their stuff but that doesn’t mean gaijin should just use training configuration one and not the one filled with composites one…the fact that gaijin did ppl dirty in the past by releasing prem tanks at a lower br rating so that ppl will buy it than increase its br gradually instead here they straight out scammed ppl by advertising it as having composite armour package similar to 2a7 series and then proceed to remove the line stating about the armour from the devblog and releasing a 2a4 which is a 10.3 br tank at 11.3 where it will fight majority of its battles against 11.7 tanks just because u have good thermals and a better round than dm33…..
@@ShorThunder 90% of firewalls (wall between crew compartment and engine) in tanks isn't modeled in x-ray. You can see them thru shooting in simulation and it will light up
aahhhh 10mm doesnt mean that the whole armor package is 10 mm it means that metal plate which covers composite is 10mm also what were u expecting, gunner optic is in the same spot like in normal 2a4 and its not that big weak spot cuz in most cases apfsd will only kill commander
@@IRON-5 Just obvious? the top outer layer is usually just small RHA plate which covers the inside composite. The 2A4M is an uparmored 2A4 which had the gunners optic as a weakspot considering it took away from the armor.
@@ThatRandomEstonian gaijin didnt add composite and modelled it in the training variant because it will have to bump up the br to 11.7 making it both better than the PSO and a toptier premium, you can check with freecam theres nothing there
If you go look at any pictures of the real tank, this is the armor it has, it’s hollow. This was just a budget way to upgrade the 2A4 in Canada till new A7s are bought
it is hollow armor, it makes the penetrator lose its penetration force when it has to pass through a layer of air, which increases protection without making the tank too heavy. leopard 2a5 and above have modified sights so it is no longer a weak point, but unfortunately this version is only 2a4
Singaporean Leopard 2SG has the same weakspot. Also, Leopard 2SG is considered the spiritual predecessor to the Leopard 2PL except Leopard 2PL has no hull armour add on.
tbh I have the 2a4 and 2a4m and to be fair they do sort of work especially if you`re peaking a hill they are better than nothing but still gotta be careful
The fact that they advertised leo2a4m in dev blog as having composite armour package installed which will provide similar protection to ones found on 2a7 series but ingame the armour package protection is nowhere near the ones found on 2a7…
Gaijin did an oopsie, the real tank does not have composite in the triangles. There are photos taken by a member of the war thunder forum who operates these vehicles and took photos of the triangles that are shown to not have composite filling and are just empty space
@@jspeneif it's the image with the open hatch on the side of the wedges that hatch and the space inside is literally perfectly shaped to slide a composite block inside just because it's not always there doesn't mean it doesn't exist at all i mean the Canadian government literally said they were being upgraded to the 2A7 standard back when it was done so i doubt a government would get scammed by just installing 20mm wedges onto the front anyways regardless it should be firing Dm53 and not KE-W gaijin just butchered it so they could make it a premium
@@jspene the photos u were talking about wedges being empty someone told me that they are in fact empty during training sessions so that the crew can get some more storage space to keep their stuff but that doesn’t mean gaijin should just use training configuration one and not the one filled with composites one…the fact that gaijin did ppl dirty in the past by releasing prem tanks at a lower br rating so that ppl will buy it than increase its br gradually instead here they straight out scammed ppl by advertising it as having composite armour package similar to 2a7 series and then proceed to remove the line stating about the armour from the devblog and releasing a 2a4 which is a 10.3 br tank at 11.3 where it will fight majority of its battles against 11.7 tanks just because u have good thermals and a better round than dm33…..
@@n1co2017there r no any "training configuration" of armor for any existing mbt on whole world. It's just a coping
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Fun fact, I discovered It has another 20 mm of armor under the 10 mm plate.
Really???
If you can, send me a screenshot in discord "TelDu#9999"
@@ShorThunder 90% of firewalls (wall between crew compartment and engine) in tanks isn't modeled in x-ray. You can see them thru shooting in simulation and it will light up
aahhhh 10mm doesnt mean that the whole armor package is 10 mm it means that metal plate which covers composite is 10mm also what were u expecting, gunner optic is in the same spot like in normal 2a4 and its not that big weak spot cuz in most cases apfsd will only kill commander
There is the very fact that gaijin advertises it as 2A5, but has such problems, Yes, essentially a leopard 2A4 front turret
@@ShorThunder Well, it IS called 2A4 M and not 2A5M
Source??
@@IRON-5 Just obvious? the top outer layer is usually just small RHA plate which covers the inside composite. The 2A4M is an uparmored 2A4 which had the gunners optic as a weakspot considering it took away from the armor.
Theres no composite under it did you even check lol
"10mm armor" Thats the plate covering the composite screen, behind it is the real composite screen
Theres no composite under it but there is a 20mm plate there
@@matthelord7695there should be a composite screen, which doesent show on xray, maybe the 20mm is a second layer of cover or smth idk
@@ThatRandomEstonian gaijin didnt add composite and modelled it in the training variant because it will have to bump up the br to 11.7 making it both better than the PSO and a toptier premium, you can check with freecam theres nothing there
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This guy want to let people knew what BGM on this video.
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Leopard 2A4 cosplaying Leopard 2A5
The L3/33 cc has a new prey
If you go look at any pictures of the real tank, this is the armor it has, it’s hollow.
This was just a budget way to upgrade the 2A4 in Canada till new A7s are bought
it is hollow armor, it makes the penetrator lose its penetration force when it has to pass through a layer of air, which increases protection without making the tank too heavy. leopard 2a5 and above have modified sights so it is no longer a weak point, but unfortunately this version is only 2a4
Is it me or did the bass of your video take a vacation once the t90 was pulled out?
That intro music makes me rage
A lot of people forgot this is a 2a4..
Singaporean Leopard 2SG has the same weakspot. Also, Leopard 2SG is considered the spiritual predecessor to the Leopard 2PL except Leopard 2PL has no hull armour add on.
They're all upgraded leopard 2a4
Ahhh gaijin and the "i don't care"
crazy ! a 2A4 beeing less armored than a 2A5 !!!
At least it's not the Merkavamk4 where the entire front is a weakspot.
At least gaijin will probably buff it unlike the merkava armor that is literly made out of very heavy carboard in game
On hte leopard 2a7 btw you shoot at the driver view port or slightly on the side front right cornered when angled
Mfw missing composite behind the wedges because its in the training configuration
There is no composite
2:01 song name?
Everytime i face 2a4m im like yummers 1 more kill
"цель подбита" единственное что я понял в этом видео потому что у меня качество топ
People saying the adding ERA make the turret look different to Soviet MBTs; Meanwhile, the Leopard 2A5-7
I'll stick with my Leopard 2PL, no thanks gaijin
I shot this spot with m774 and it nonpenned, which is complete contrary to what protection analysis shows. Almost lodged my controller in a wall
tbh I have the 2a4 and 2a4m and to be fair they do sort of work especially if you`re peaking a hill they are better than nothing but still gotta be careful
Why does everyone keep saying theres composite under the 10mm if there isnt
You shot with the bradley at a 2a7 it actually has more armor on the sides than the 2a5 bcs it hast 100mm nera components
Should the leo pl more resemble to the 2a4m? Since its literally just the 2pl with camo net on lol
Do yall notice 2A5 Gun kinda uhh --- 0---------
No, what's with it?
@@AlexVanNuggetit short
Meanwhile the Is4m has 1500m of Armor on the frontal turret.........totally not Russian Bias.
*sad Canadian noises*
*cry in leclerc*
music/song name?
I have premium leopard for 8100 gold, it has the same thing but 35mm
music
Shor thunder where do you get your music from?
Blue archive OST
@@ShorThunder Thanks!
Put a bush on it
BRO I BOUGHT THIS 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Actually a good tank if you don't count on its front armor
(KE-W APFSDS Also good)
E só cai no 11.7 igual ao PL. Por essa razão, eu não uso.
Worse Leo2PL
(Maybe)
Isn’t KE-W better than DM43 (the one leopard 2 PL fires)?
@@anormalperson2679in pen yes, but in spall FUCK NO
I’ve only had 2 one shots in my time of playing 2A4M with a KE-W
With dm33 I one shot much more
Yes but Leopard 2pl is very heavy and slow, So it's mostly up to the player's preference.
I am so glad i didnt pre order this piece of sh*t
How does this thing look so cool and meanwhile being so weak?
Canadian auction leopard 1 also lol
A lot of composite armor on the sides but there is no point