I love your understanding and willingness to share. My journey is like unto those you teach about. However, God has clothed me in humble apparel and my day is not yet. Your exploring of these mysteries warms my soul as I walk the great and lonely road into the greater light. I hope your cries can conquer all your fears so God will part the curtain veil of eternal light so that you know as you are known. Thanks again for your study, research and sharing. Those who have eyes to see and ears to hear will bless your works and God will answer your prays I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.
This was interesting and thought provoking. I've been studying Abraham for many years and have also been writing a book with him as the main character. I do believe Shem is Melchizedek. I've read Jasher, Josephus, all 3 books of Enoch and the modern prophets. Thanks for this.
There are no accidents in God's Plan! I was just reading Alma 13 a few days ago. I was interested in who Melchizedek was, and found some information asserting that he might have been Shem. It blew my mind, because I own the Book of Jasher, which makes a similar assertion; albeit with some deviation. Now you post this video! Thanks man! I very much appreciate your work on this video. I knew it took a great deal of effort and it shows in your presentation here.
Shem is Melchizedek! I've searched and studied this subject and ancient fregments in Hebrew of Genesis testifying that Shem is Melchizedek. Aramaic translations also confirme the identity of Melchizedek being Shem. It also confirmes the revelation in D&C 138 calling Shem also "the great high priest" just like the revelation.
@@FamilyAffair-dx1vs Jasher isn't scripture. But it is referred to in the Scriptures. Aren't things in the scriptures "scriptural"? 2 Samuel 1 17 ¶ And David lamented with this lamentation over Saul and over Jonathan his son: 18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.) Joshua 10 13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
Great video brother. I appreciate the thought and effort you have demonstrated in presenting this informtion. I am looking forward to watching the next videos.
I love these thoughts. A few key words in D&C 84:14 make me lean away from Shem as Melchizedek. The word "fathers" (plural), and "even till Noah". These words, to me, suggest at least 2 generations between Melchizedek and Noah. The Third Book of Adam and Eve (not canon) talks about how Shem mentored Melchizedek. Melchizedek is said to be the youngest son of Cainan. There is also some interesting bits about Shem administering bread and wine. Melchizedek is later directed to build an altar and offering bread and wine. This matches well with what Melchizedek later does with Abraham in the JST of Genesis 14.
Thanks. The "til Noah" verse at first made me think Melchizedek may be Eber instead of Shem. But the more I read it, the more I think that phrase simply represents the pattern of the priesthood being patriarchal (lineage of the fathers) as going from dispensation head to dispensation head: Abraham til Noah, til Enoch, til Abel and Adam. Which distinguishes Abraham's lineage from Jethro's (in the previous verses) which seems to be non patriarchal, (not the lineage of his fathers) and definitely not dispensation head to dispensation head. But it was the modern revelation that clearly distinguished Shem as "the Great High Priest" that I believe was the final puzzle piece we are given to know the connection. Shem was clearly alive during Melchizedek's day, and a modern prophet went out of his way to tell us that Shem was "THE great high priest." That tipped the scales for me. And then the scriptures repeating over and over that Abraham received it from his Fathers, and him getting the keys to be the Firstborn, means that Melchizedek MUST have been in Abraham's lineage back to Noah, and we know exactly who Abraham's fathers were back to Noah. The only person who could designate him Firstborn, would be the person who had those keys. Shem was clearly the living firstborn and the Great High Priest. Abraham 1 "I became a rightful heir, a High Priest, holding the right belonging to the fathers. 3 It was conferred upon me FROM THE FATHERS; it came down from the fathers, from the beginning of time, yea, even from the beginning, or before the foundation of the earth, down to the present time, EVEN THE RIGHT OF THE FIRSTBORN,"
I think this shows just how many records we are missing. I have to believe Melchizedek, Enoch and all the others kept a record. There may be others we don't even know about in other parts of the world who also kept records. What we call "canon" isn't all there is. That's amazing to me and actually looking forward to all those records coming forth some day.
Have you heard the stories of the Cave of records that Joseph and Oliver would visit? It seems to have been a large library of records where Moroni and Mormon stored all their spiritual treasures and where the plates were returned to, after Joseph was done with them. In one description it was completely filled with stacks of plates and records. I'll be doing a video on the cave of treasures idea, because I have interesting ideas about what it was and its history.
@@JJBrown-lw1dvthere are 11 accounts of this cave. Also a child fell into a cave at cumorah maybe 15 yrs ago and it was covered with a metal plate a few yrs back. There are videos on this. The cave was emptied and the plates were moved to a different cave around pre 1830
I really love your videos! This is information I have been searching for! I love your well thought out and researched insights. Have you ever considered writing a book on your insights?
Thanks so much. I'm glad you're getting something out of them. I think I can do more with videos than I can with a book. Knowledge is coming out so fast these days that I feel like writing books isn't the most efficient way of keeping up. I also think I can reach a lot more people with videos than I could with books. Videos may be the new books.
I love the research that you have done and are sharing with us. The book of Jasher. is most interesting and telling the stories of these wonderful people. I love the story of how Abraham was born, and where he was raised and by whom. If this is correct, he was raised most of his life from age 10 to 50 by Shem who is the same as Melchizedek.
Thanks for your video! I'm really new to this topic, so I wanted to double check something in the video. 21:48 My understanding is that Moses 8:12 says that Japheth is older and Shem is the second born. It appears that the traditional biblical translations are that Shem is the oldest. Wondering if you are aware of this and what thoughts you have if there are other biblical translations that match up with the Pearl of Great Price? Thanks!
Great question that I forgot to address. Yes, the Pearl of Great Price let us know that Japeth was oldest, then Shem, and then Ham. However as with almost every first son in the Old Testament patriarchal lineage, the oldest failed to qualify to be the designated Firstborn, for various reasons and a younger brother was designated as Firstborn, as was Shem. It started with Cain, who was born first, all the way down to Joseph and then Ephraim who were the younger brothers but designated First Born. I have some strong ideas as to why that is, but it's probably not a good topic for a public RUclips video. Are you related to Brea, Casey, and Cara?
@@JJBrown-lw1dv Hey JJ, thanks so much for your reply! Yes, certainly a clear pattern that almost every first son doesn't end up with the patriarchal lineage. It does seem to be an interesting pattern, not always perfectly fitting, of The First Shall Be Last & The Last Shall Be First. You've got my interest piqued about your theory. Perhaps someday. Yes! Cara, Kelly, Casey, and Bre are all my older half siblings. How do you know them? Small world. 😃 Another question on Shem & Melchizedek, if you are able to discuss. Have you researched the genealogical discrepencies in Genesis 11 between the Masoretic & Septuigent versions of the Old Testament? Basically people say that Shem could not have been Melchizedek because the Septuigent and Samaritan translations of the O.T. stretch the lifespan distance out between the post flood patriarchs and Shem would have died hundreds of years before Abraham was born. Whereas the Masoretic O.T. shows that Shem would have lived well into Isaac's life, whether he was Melchizedek or not. I've only started diving into this topic so I'm looking for people to help me make sense of things. I reviewed all three videos you have on this series and I don't believe I saw the genealogy issue covered. Interested to hear your thoughts if you have any from that angle. Thanks!
I spent a while studying the Masoretic vs. Septuagint time frames. Not enough time to get any expertise on the subject, but enough to decide to just go with the KJV, which uses the Masoretic. Joseph Smith spent a lot of time receiving revelation on his inspired version, the Pearl of Great Price, and his teachings in the school of the prophets about the timelines, and he consistently went with the KJV timelines in general. I've never found anything he's ever said to favor the Septuagint timeline, but he said and wrote quite a lot on the subject that correlates with the Masoretic. Let's remember that he was seeking revelation and corrections when compiling the Inspired Version, but never adjusted the KJV timelines. In my experience, the closer I stay to Joseph Smith's writings and teachings, the more things make sense, and when I leave him behind, I find myself in dead ends. So I'm not smart enough to make an actual case for Masoretic over Septuagint, just a strong faith in the value to sticking with the head of our dispensation, who is in my view the greatest dispenser of knowledge in terms of quality and volume to have ever lived. I hosted Casey and Brea in my home when they were at the Kirov Academy in DC, and helped Cara get a job with Sen. Hatch where she met Stephen. So they and Roma lived with me for that period. They're the best. If you're actually interested in the first born issue, shoot me a text, and we can talk offline. I'm self employed, so I'm pretty flexible, time-wise. 703 498 7422
@@JJBrown-lw1dv Hey JJ, that would be great to connect sometime. I've been preparing to travel to Arizona to see my wife's family so next week I'd love to connect with you. I have really appreciated any connections to discuss gospel topics. It really is a treasure so thank you for offering. I do resonate with what you said in this comment about how crucially valuable Joseph Smith is. For most of my life I did not value him for what I am now beginning to realize about his work. I feel like what you said "the closer I stay to Joseph Smith's writings and teachings, the more things make sense..." articulates what I had not put to words yet. I have recently gained a much greater appreciation for the Lectures on Faith, though I know there is discussion about how much was from Joseph. Still the LOF has such depth and also clarity on such foundational gospel understanding, I feel. So I'd love to hear any additional thought you may have on the Masoretic vs Septuegent, and also the idea about the first born, when we connect. I was talking with my dad, who is Casey, Bre, and Cara's dad, and he recognized your name from when you hosted them in DC. Very fun to make that connection with you. Also, I'm not sure you are aware, maybe you are, but Bre has recently been diagnosed with ALS. For awhile the disease was progressing rapidly but since has appeared to slow down. It's been a pretty tough time so any thoughts and prayers for her are of great help. Anyway, love to connect sometime soon, possibly next week.
@@brandonherd I didn’t know about Bre’s ALS until she just posted those two videos on it last week. I reposted one of them. Heart breaking. But what a treat to see her dance a little in those videos. I’ve always wondered if her adult friends had any idea that she was a world class dancer. Before we knew the Herds, my wife and I both grew up with ballet, and we were obsessed with the Kirov method of ballet and always had wanted to visit the Kirov Academy, but it’s closed off and gated. So when your dad called the Hatch office looking for some leads on where his two kids who were accepted into the Kirov scholl could stay and I picked up the phone, my immediate response was “they’re staying with my wife and me, and they’ll be staying for free”. He was a little shocked that I didn’t even have to check with my wife first, but I told him that the Kirov school was one of the best in the world, and if his kids were good enough to get in, then nothing would stop my wife from hosting them. Im not sure he understood what a crazy achievement it was for both a brother and sister to be accepted into that program. So we feel blessed that I picked up the phone that day. Check in after your AZ trip, and we’ll talk firstborns.
All this is revealed in the book of Jasher. Melchizedek means, and king of righteousness, of the priesthood, it’s referencing Shem as it says in the book of Jasher.
31:31 You could call this a higher order within the Melchizedek Priesthood because truthfully, most of us are very much asleep. Even those who are aware of being asleep are yet asleep. One might even call this a maturation of the Melchizedeck Priesthood.
Yes, to be honest, the prophets seem to hit a new "level" within the order, so to speak, once they receive their calling and election. There's a point where God tells some prophets that whatever they say from then on will happen. That shows up especially with the prophets who end up becoming translated, like with Nephi Son of Helaman before he called for a drought out of his own mouth. I'll be going into that in a future series on Fulness in the Priesthood and Translation.
8:48 why do you say our priesthood comes through Jethro? Moses restored the Keys of the Gathering of Israel to The Prophet but his priesthood line comes through Peter James and John who got it from the Savior. Sorry for the question.
I've thought about that since the video, and I'm not so sure about it anymore. We know that Moses and Elijah gave the sealing and gathering keys to Peter, James, and John on the Mt of Transfiguration, and we know that Moses got the Priesthood from Jethro. So I've always assumed that everything goes back to Moses. But it could be that Christ just plain had the priesthood and didn't get it from that same priesthood lineage. And Christ gave them the priesthood, but Moses and Elijah only gave them keys, but not the priesthood per se. It's not super clear whether Christ needed to receive the priesthood himself from anyone, or if he just always had it. So I don't really stand behind that statement I made in the video. But it does seem clear that the keys to the great gathering of Israel did come through Jethro.
If, as some scholars assert, the Israelites began as a sub group of the ancient Canaanites, and their monotheist worship of Yahweh comes from the Canaanite worship of El, Asherah, and Yahweh, when did God accept the Israelites as his chosen people and accept their religion as the true worship?
I disagree with those scholars. They have a bad habit of thinking a lack of evidence is proof that something’s not true. A logical fallacy. And they make a conscious choice to put more weight on scraps of information than a thousand year-old written text, just because the text references God.
Some scholars are not smart enough to keep up with real Servants of God, Prophets and Apostles. The True Church is founded on _living_ Apostles and Prophets, (Ephesians 2: 20, 4:11-14) When we recieve God's true servants we are recieving Him. (Matthew 10: 40)
I always assumed the Israelites in Egypt had some knowledge of God and their religious tradition. Just because they had to be convinced of God's power doesn't mean they didn't know about it.
I agree to some extent. But think about Joseph's brothers. They were not godly sons of Jacob. They didn't really have much of a religious tradition going into Egypt. Remember, they tried to get rid of their righteous brother. Judah, one of the better ones, bore a child with his step-daughter who he thought was a prostitute. They knew their dad and great grandfather were godly men, but they weren't really a godly people for the most part. Even after the many miracles in Egypt, when Moses disappeared for a few weeks, they didn't go to Abraham's God, they immediately went through a lot of trouble to build that golden calf. Doesn't sound like a people trained to pray to God, or who were in tune with Abraham's spiritual traditions. They seemed to have a mentality about what tribe they were from more than an identity as God's people. God had to kill off that generation before he had a godly people to deal with. Most "Jewish" religious traditions are built on the exodus story, and the Torah that Moses brought down the mountain. God was building a godly people.
Times and Seasons, 15 December ,1844, page 746, paragraph 10 also ifentifies Shem to be Melchizedek. "And with the superior knowledge of men like Noah, Shem, (who was Melchisedec [Melchizedek]) and Abram, "
I removed yahweforchristians from the feed. He didn't seem sincere and only wanted to tear down LDS beliefs. I don't want to give him a forum for that.
Bro Melchizedek is Shem… written in the book of Jasher 16:11. The son of Noah was Shem. Read the book of Jasher and be enlightened on the things of God in Genesis. God manifest himself thru men or angels but never physically appeared to no one.
I agree, and you'll see in the 3rd video in the series that I use Jasher a lot. I promise you that you do not know God so well that you can claim what he has or has not done or what he can and cannot do. He tells us that man cannot bear his presence, but that doesn't mean He doesn't have the ability to empower one of his servants to temporarily see him if He wants to. I would NEVER put a limit on what God does or what God can do. Yes, God manifests himself through men and angels. But I also believe the Bible. The Bible plainly says that both Jacob and Moses saw God face-to-face. The bible is so clear on it that you would have to wrest the scriptures to claim otherwise. Genesis 32 30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. Exodus 33 11 And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.
@@JJBrown-lw1dv brother.. don’t insult me because I have a God honest opinion. No Jacob wrestled with an Angel and that’s was considered the PRESENCE of God. And Moses never seen God, he seen the manifestation of God. God told him, no man can see his FACE and live.. U got to understand the speech of God bro. Just read: Exodus 33:18-20 18 And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory. 19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy. 20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face👈🏾: for there shall no man see me, and live. 👈🏾 21 And the Lord said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: 22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: 23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: 👉🏾but my face shall not be seen. Hosea 12 1 Ephraim feedeth on wind, and followeth after the east wind: he daily increaseth lies and desolation; and they do make a covenant with the Assyrians, and oil is carried into Egypt. 2 The Lord hath also a controversy with Judah, and will punish Jacob according to his ways; according to his doings will he recompense him. 3 He took his brother by the heel in the womb, and by his strength he had power with God: 👈🏾 4 Yea, he had power over the angel, 👈🏾and prevailed👈🏾: he wept, and made supplication unto him: he found him in Bethel, and there he spake with us; 5 Even the Lord God of hosts; the Lord is his memorial. ---- Believe the John, the servant of Christ. Read brother: John 1:18 18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Did you know that in the book of Jasher (apocryphal) it is said that the last animals that went into the ark were the Lions? These beasts were protecting the ark in the day when Noah’s family entered the ark and the rain was already pouring from heavens. I can totally picture Shem (Melchizedek) controlling the lions for his father so they could defend them from the mob wanting to enter the ark!
I don’t view Jethro as a man of God. Jethro clearly had multiple gods, just as Terah. Moses had direct communication with God, but Terah said what Moses was doing was not good and taught him a different way, which was accepted by Moses without asking God if it should be implemented.
God certainly used him. He gave Abraham his staff. He gave him the priesthood, and he taught all the Israelites, including Moses, to give a Thank Offering to God for their deliverance. I'll do a video on Jethro in the future that gets into the complexities of his background, based on a number of other Hebrew and Muslim texts and traditions. He was complex, that's for sure.
Your title proposes an interesting question. Since Abraham, Melchizedek and Shem are from the Priesthood of Judaism and Jesus is referred to as the Highpriest. He has established and conferred a Higher standard in that office of Priesthood upon the Apostles who were inspired and instructed by Jesus Christ. It was with, by, and from the Apostles that the Catholic Church began, the question is therefore from where does your Priesthood or Ecclesiastical Authority come from if not from the Apostles who were inspired and instructed by Jesus Christ. Jesus will not and cannot confer another Priesthood which contradicts what He had already conferred and established on the Apostles.
Great question. I would say that the Priesthood of Melchizedek comes to Abraham from Adam. Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph continued down the righteous firstborn line. But is was lost in Egypt sometime after Joseph died. Then it was restored to Moses, who was a Levite, through Jethro, who was from Abraham, but not Jacob. The LDS believe that Moses brought down the Law of God that included the Melchizedek Priesthood to the tribes of Israel, but they were worshipping the Golden Calf, so Moses broke that version of the Law, and wrote a version of God's law that only had the Aaronic, or Levitcal, or lesser form of the priesthood. Certain prophets after that, from various tribes, achieved the Melchizedek priesthood, as individuals, but the Levites (not the Jews) held the Levitical priesthood after that. When Jesus showed up with the Melchizedek priesthood, he was able to restore it to his Apostles, and hand the keys to Peter, James and John. So, you see, I wouldn't say that the Melchizedek Priesthood comes from Judah. The Cohens, or Levites may still have a right to the Levitical priesthood, but not the Melchizedek Priesthood, or higher priesthood. After the Prophets were killed off, over the next couple hundred years, the LDS believe the truth in the Church of Jesus Christ eroded, lost its power, and was mingled with the philosophies of men, and became politicized. The record for that is pretty strong. By the end of the Aryan conflict in the time of Theodosius II, the LDS would say the Church of Jesus Christ had completely ripened into apostasy. We don't see Peter as a Pope, we see him as one of the last remaining church leaders getting killed off by the Romans. Remember the Romans had killed him 200 years earlier, before Constantine. And we don't see Constantine's deathbed confession as an indication that he was a Pope either. We don't see anything like an unbroken chain between Peter to Constantine to the very political Holy Roman Empire as the continuation of the Church of Jesus Christ. And if you read your history, you see that the Roman Catholic church doesn't look anything like the Church run by Peter, James, and John, or Paul. In 2 Thessalonians 2, Paul, toward the end of his life, told the saints that Christ would not come before there would first be a "falling away." The LDS believe that apostasy began after the apostles were all taken from earth and things became corrupted over the next 200 years. He said: "2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME, EXCEPT THERE COME A FALLING AWAY FIRST, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;" The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes that Joseph Smith, who was of the Tribe of Joseph, and who carried the name of Joseph of Egypt (and who was designated as the firstborn under Jacob) was called to restore the Church of Jesus Christ among the House of Joseph (English speaking people). This represented the firstborn lineage in a Land over the Well in the Everlasting Hills (As promised in the blessing given to Joseph of Egypt by Jacob) finally becoming a fruitful bough, and beginning the work of spreading the restored church to the scattered tribes of Israel. Please see my video "A Remnant of the Lost Tribes" which goes into this in great detail. The LDS believe that Peter James and John appeared to Joseph Smith and restored the Keys to do all this work back to the Earth. That's why the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints consider themselves to be Christ's restored church after the falling away that Paul predicted, and to be working, again, under the Melchizedek priesthood.
The catholic church was NOT created by the apostles, it is a pagan authority that combined with Christianity. They still bow down to images when God says not too, they pray to the dead when the bible says the dead know nothing, they do not keep the 7th day holy as God instructs, they also use others to mediate between them and God when jesus says there is no way to God but through him.
@user-bz4nm8lf9v Your reply shows that you know nothing of the Bible, who wrote the manuscripts, how did, the Catholic Church have the manuscripts in its possession the fact that those manuscripts which the Catholic church does have proves that the Catholic Church began with, by, and from, the Apostles who were inspired and instructed by Jesus Christ. Even history itself points out how fraudulent your lies are. Obviously, you're a true Anglican/Protestant.
Good question. It is from Joseph's handwritten note in the actual manuscript, as follows: “Note-the seventh and eighth verses of this chapter are a parenthesis alluding to Melchisedec and not to Christ.” (JST manuscript, NT 2, folio 4, p. 139.)
Why is there so much heavy editing of your audio? Constant splices. Can you elaborate? It’s more than any other channel I’ve ever heard… and that’s saying something.
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I love your understanding and willingness to share. My journey is like unto those you teach about. However, God has clothed me in humble apparel and my day is not yet. Your exploring of these mysteries warms my soul as I walk the great and lonely road into the greater light. I hope your cries can conquer all your fears so God will part the curtain veil of eternal light so that you know as you are known. Thanks again for your study, research and sharing. Those who have eyes to see and ears to hear will bless your works and God will answer your prays I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.
This was interesting and thought provoking. I've been studying Abraham for many years and have also been writing a book with him as the main character. I do believe Shem is Melchizedek. I've read Jasher, Josephus, all 3 books of Enoch and the modern prophets. Thanks for this.
Thanks. Your book sounds interesting. I hope this series gives you some ideas on background for your book!
@@JJBrown-lw1dv I'm hoping too! Thank you!
There are no accidents in God's Plan! I was just reading Alma 13 a few days ago. I was interested in who Melchizedek was, and found some information asserting that he might have been Shem. It blew my mind, because I own the Book of Jasher, which makes a similar assertion; albeit with some deviation. Now you post this video!
Thanks man! I very much appreciate your work on this video. I knew it took a great deal of effort and it shows in your presentation here.
That makes my day. Thanks for sharing. It was a LOT of work, and I left half of it on the cutting room floor, so i appreciate the recognition.
@@james8996You are referred to the intro for this video.
Shem is Melchizedek! I've searched and studied this subject and ancient fregments in Hebrew of Genesis testifying that Shem is Melchizedek.
Aramaic translations also confirme the identity of Melchizedek being Shem.
It also confirmes the revelation in D&C 138 calling Shem also "the great high priest" just like the revelation.
Jasher is not a Biblical Book ....nobody knows who wrote it......Hebrews tell you exactly who he was.......smh.......
@@FamilyAffair-dx1vs Jasher isn't scripture. But it is referred to in the Scriptures. Aren't things in the scriptures "scriptural"?
2 Samuel 1
17 ¶ And David lamented with this lamentation over Saul and over Jonathan his son:
18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)
Joshua 10
13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
Great video brother. I appreciate the thought and effort you have demonstrated in presenting this informtion. I am looking forward to watching the next videos.
Much appreciated!
Top notch work, thanks so much. Can't wait to see some of your other videos.
Thanks so much. Glad you like them! I hope you like the others.
18:36 In the origional revelation, before it was published and cannoniized, D&C138:41 identifies Melchizideck as being Shem
I did not know that. Thanks.
Where can I go to see that in original form?
I love your videos.
It gives me a lot of food for thought and opens my eyes to how marvelous God’s ways are.
Thanks, I'm very glad to hear it.
What a good source of information. Thanks for your hard work and time in putting this together.
Thanks, again. Glad you're getting something from it.
I love these thoughts. A few key words in D&C 84:14 make me lean away from Shem as Melchizedek. The word "fathers" (plural), and "even till Noah". These words, to me, suggest at least 2 generations between Melchizedek and Noah. The Third Book of Adam and Eve (not canon) talks about how Shem mentored Melchizedek. Melchizedek is said to be the youngest son of Cainan. There is also some interesting bits about Shem administering bread and wine. Melchizedek is later directed to build an altar and offering bread and wine. This matches well with what Melchizedek later does with Abraham in the JST of Genesis 14.
Thanks. The "til Noah" verse at first made me think Melchizedek may be Eber instead of Shem. But the more I read it, the more I think that phrase simply represents the pattern of the priesthood being patriarchal (lineage of the fathers) as going from dispensation head to dispensation head: Abraham til Noah, til Enoch, til Abel and Adam. Which distinguishes Abraham's lineage from Jethro's (in the previous verses) which seems to be non patriarchal, (not the lineage of his fathers) and definitely not dispensation head to dispensation head.
But it was the modern revelation that clearly distinguished Shem as "the Great High Priest" that I believe was the final puzzle piece we are given to know the connection. Shem was clearly alive during Melchizedek's day, and a modern prophet went out of his way to tell us that Shem was "THE great high priest." That tipped the scales for me.
And then the scriptures repeating over and over that Abraham received it from his Fathers, and him getting the keys to be the Firstborn, means that Melchizedek MUST have been in Abraham's lineage back to Noah, and we know exactly who Abraham's fathers were back to Noah. The only person who could designate him Firstborn, would be the person who had those keys. Shem was clearly the living firstborn and the Great High Priest.
Abraham 1
"I became a rightful heir, a High Priest, holding the right belonging to the fathers.
3 It was conferred upon me FROM THE FATHERS; it came down from the fathers, from the beginning of time, yea, even from the beginning, or before the foundation of the earth, down to the present time, EVEN THE RIGHT OF THE FIRSTBORN,"
I loved this lesson, thank you.
Thanks, so glad you did. Hope you like the rest of the series.
I think this shows just how many records we are missing. I have to believe Melchizedek, Enoch and all the others kept a record. There may be others we don't even know about in other parts of the world who also kept records. What we call "canon" isn't all there is. That's amazing to me and actually looking forward to all those records coming forth some day.
Have you heard the stories of the Cave of records that Joseph and Oliver would visit? It seems to have been a large library of records where Moroni and Mormon stored all their spiritual treasures and where the plates were returned to, after Joseph was done with them. In one description it was completely filled with stacks of plates and records. I'll be doing a video on the cave of treasures idea, because I have interesting ideas about what it was and its history.
@@JJBrown-lw1dvthere are 11 accounts of this cave. Also a child fell into a cave at cumorah maybe 15 yrs ago and it was covered with a metal plate a few yrs back. There are videos on this. The cave was emptied and the plates were moved to a different cave around pre 1830
I really love your videos! This is information I have been searching for! I love your well thought out and researched insights. Have you ever considered writing a book on your insights?
Thanks so much. I'm glad you're getting something out of them. I think I can do more with videos than I can with a book. Knowledge is coming out so fast these days that I feel like writing books isn't the most efficient way of keeping up. I also think I can reach a lot more people with videos than I could with books. Videos may be the new books.
I love the research that you have done and are sharing with us. The book of Jasher. is most interesting and telling the stories of these wonderful people. I love the story of how Abraham was born, and where he was raised and by whom. If this is correct, he was raised most of his life from age 10 to 50 by Shem who is the same as Melchizedek.
Thanks very much. Yes, I'm close to dropping Part 3 which touches on all of this.
Great work. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Love your insights!
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Thanks very much.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE your visuals! ...& content, to be sure! THX! Where do you find your pictures??
Mostly with AI. I find some and have to make others. Thanks for noticing, I spend a lot of time trying to get good pics, 🙂
Thanks for your video! I'm really new to this topic, so I wanted to double check something in the video.
21:48
My understanding is that Moses 8:12 says that Japheth is older and Shem is the second born. It appears that the traditional biblical translations are that Shem is the oldest. Wondering if you are aware of this and what thoughts you have if there are other biblical translations that match up with the Pearl of Great Price?
Thanks!
Great question that I forgot to address. Yes, the Pearl of Great Price let us know that Japeth was oldest, then Shem, and then Ham. However as with almost every first son in the Old Testament patriarchal lineage, the oldest failed to qualify to be the designated Firstborn, for various reasons and a younger brother was designated as Firstborn, as was Shem. It started with Cain, who was born first, all the way down to Joseph and then Ephraim who were the younger brothers but designated First Born. I have some strong ideas as to why that is, but it's probably not a good topic for a public RUclips video.
Are you related to Brea, Casey, and Cara?
@@JJBrown-lw1dv Hey JJ, thanks so much for your reply! Yes, certainly a clear pattern that almost every first son doesn't end up with the patriarchal lineage. It does seem to be an interesting pattern, not always perfectly fitting, of The First Shall Be Last & The Last Shall Be First. You've got my interest piqued about your theory. Perhaps someday.
Yes! Cara, Kelly, Casey, and Bre are all my older half siblings. How do you know them? Small world. 😃
Another question on Shem & Melchizedek, if you are able to discuss. Have you researched the genealogical discrepencies in Genesis 11 between the Masoretic & Septuigent versions of the Old Testament? Basically people say that Shem could not have been Melchizedek because the Septuigent and Samaritan translations of the O.T. stretch the lifespan distance out between the post flood patriarchs and Shem would have died hundreds of years before Abraham was born. Whereas the Masoretic O.T. shows that Shem would have lived well into Isaac's life, whether he was Melchizedek or not.
I've only started diving into this topic so I'm looking for people to help me make sense of things. I reviewed all three videos you have on this series and I don't believe I saw the genealogy issue covered. Interested to hear your thoughts if you have any from that angle.
Thanks!
I spent a while studying the Masoretic vs. Septuagint time frames. Not enough time to get any expertise on the subject, but enough to decide to just go with the KJV, which uses the Masoretic. Joseph Smith spent a lot of time receiving revelation on his inspired version, the Pearl of Great Price, and his teachings in the school of the prophets about the timelines, and he consistently went with the KJV timelines in general. I've never found anything he's ever said to favor the Septuagint timeline, but he said and wrote quite a lot on the subject that correlates with the Masoretic. Let's remember that he was seeking revelation and corrections when compiling the Inspired Version, but never adjusted the KJV timelines.
In my experience, the closer I stay to Joseph Smith's writings and teachings, the more things make sense, and when I leave him behind, I find myself in dead ends.
So I'm not smart enough to make an actual case for Masoretic over Septuagint, just a strong faith in the value to sticking with the head of our dispensation, who is in my view the greatest dispenser of knowledge in terms of quality and volume to have ever lived.
I hosted Casey and Brea in my home when they were at the Kirov Academy in DC, and helped Cara get a job with Sen. Hatch where she met Stephen. So they and Roma lived with me for that period. They're the best.
If you're actually interested in the first born issue, shoot me a text, and we can talk offline. I'm self employed, so I'm pretty flexible, time-wise. 703 498 7422
@@JJBrown-lw1dv Hey JJ, that would be great to connect sometime. I've been preparing to travel to Arizona to see my wife's family so next week I'd love to connect with you. I have really appreciated any connections to discuss gospel topics. It really is a treasure so thank you for offering.
I do resonate with what you said in this comment about how crucially valuable Joseph Smith is. For most of my life I did not value him for what I am now beginning to realize about his work. I feel like what you said "the closer I stay to Joseph Smith's writings and teachings, the more things make sense..." articulates what I had not put to words yet. I have recently gained a much greater appreciation for the Lectures on Faith, though I know there is discussion about how much was from Joseph. Still the LOF has such depth and also clarity on such foundational gospel understanding, I feel.
So I'd love to hear any additional thought you may have on the Masoretic vs Septuegent, and also the idea about the first born, when we connect.
I was talking with my dad, who is Casey, Bre, and Cara's dad, and he recognized your name from when you hosted them in DC. Very fun to make that connection with you. Also, I'm not sure you are aware, maybe you are, but Bre has recently been diagnosed with ALS. For awhile the disease was progressing rapidly but since has appeared to slow down. It's been a pretty tough time so any thoughts and prayers for her are of great help.
Anyway, love to connect sometime soon, possibly next week.
@@brandonherd I didn’t know about Bre’s ALS until she just posted those two videos on it last week. I reposted one of them. Heart breaking. But what a treat to see her dance a little in those videos. I’ve always wondered if her adult friends had any idea that she was a world class dancer.
Before we knew the Herds, my wife and I both grew up with ballet, and we were obsessed with the Kirov method of ballet and always had wanted to visit the Kirov Academy, but it’s closed off and gated.
So when your dad called the Hatch office looking for some leads on where his two kids who were accepted into the Kirov scholl could stay and I picked up the phone, my immediate response was “they’re staying with my wife and me, and they’ll be staying for free”. He was a little shocked that I didn’t even have to check with my wife first, but I told him that the Kirov school was one of the best in the world, and if his kids were good enough to get in, then nothing would stop my wife from hosting them. Im not sure he understood what a crazy achievement it was for both a brother and sister to be accepted into that program. So we feel blessed that I picked up the phone that day.
Check in after your AZ trip, and we’ll talk firstborns.
Great video…thanks!!
Glad you liked it, and thanks for watching!
Really enjoying your channel.
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So nice of you
Can’t find part 2 of this.
Coming shortly
OK, I posted part 2.
All this is revealed in the book of Jasher. Melchizedek means, and king of righteousness, of the priesthood, it’s referencing Shem as it says in the book of Jasher.
31:31 You could call this a higher order within the Melchizedek Priesthood because truthfully, most of us are very much asleep. Even those who are aware of being asleep are yet asleep. One might even call this a maturation of the Melchizedeck Priesthood.
Yes, to be honest, the prophets seem to hit a new "level" within the order, so to speak, once they receive their calling and election.
There's a point where God tells some prophets that whatever they say from then on will happen. That shows up especially with the prophets who end up becoming translated, like with Nephi Son of Helaman before he called for a drought out of his own mouth. I'll be going into that in a future series on Fulness in the Priesthood and Translation.
@@JJBrown-lw1dv I look forward to that video!
The Book of Jasher also equates Shem with Melchizedek/Adonizedek. Jasher 16:11 And Adonizedek king of Jerusalem, the same was Shem,...
Yes, sir. Books of Jasher and Jubilees will be showing up in Pt. 2
@@JJBrown-lw1dv I was guessing that 😎 Love your videos!
8:48 why do you say our priesthood comes through Jethro? Moses restored the Keys of the Gathering of Israel to The Prophet but his priesthood line comes through Peter James and John who got it from the Savior. Sorry for the question.
I've thought about that since the video, and I'm not so sure about it anymore. We know that Moses and Elijah gave the sealing and gathering keys to Peter, James, and John on the Mt of Transfiguration, and we know that Moses got the Priesthood from Jethro. So I've always assumed that everything goes back to Moses. But it could be that Christ just plain had the priesthood and didn't get it from that same priesthood lineage. And Christ gave them the priesthood, but Moses and Elijah only gave them keys, but not the priesthood per se.
It's not super clear whether Christ needed to receive the priesthood himself from anyone, or if he just always had it. So I don't really stand behind that statement I made in the video. But it does seem clear that the keys to the great gathering of Israel did come through Jethro.
If, as some scholars assert, the Israelites began as a sub group of the ancient Canaanites, and their monotheist worship of Yahweh comes from the Canaanite worship of El, Asherah, and Yahweh, when did God accept the Israelites as his chosen people and accept their religion as the true worship?
Those scholars are usually secular and don't believe the story of Exodus. I disagree with their conclusions.
I disagree with those scholars. They have a bad habit of thinking a lack of evidence is proof that something’s not true. A logical fallacy. And they make a conscious choice to put more weight on scraps of information than a thousand year-old written text, just because the text references God.
Some scholars are not smart enough to keep up with real Servants of God, Prophets and Apostles. The True Church is founded on _living_ Apostles and Prophets, (Ephesians 2: 20, 4:11-14)
When we recieve God's true servants we are recieving Him. (Matthew 10: 40)
I always assumed the Israelites in Egypt had some knowledge of God and their religious tradition. Just because they had to be convinced of God's power doesn't mean they didn't know about it.
I agree to some extent. But think about Joseph's brothers. They were not godly sons of Jacob. They didn't really have much of a religious tradition going into Egypt. Remember, they tried to get rid of their righteous brother. Judah, one of the better ones, bore a child with his step-daughter who he thought was a prostitute. They knew their dad and great grandfather were godly men, but they weren't really a godly people for the most part.
Even after the many miracles in Egypt, when Moses disappeared for a few weeks, they didn't go to Abraham's God, they immediately went through a lot of trouble to build that golden calf. Doesn't sound like a people trained to pray to God, or who were in tune with Abraham's spiritual traditions.
They seemed to have a mentality about what tribe they were from more than an identity as God's people. God had to kill off that generation before he had a godly people to deal with. Most "Jewish" religious traditions are built on the exodus story, and the Torah that Moses brought down the mountain. God was building a godly people.
Times and Seasons, 15 December ,1844, page 746, paragraph 10 also ifentifies Shem to be Melchizedek.
"And with the superior knowledge of men like Noah, Shem, (who was Melchisedec [Melchizedek]) and Abram, "
You think it means he literally had no fatheror mother? You are misunderstanding Hebrews 7:3@@yahwehforchristians
I removed yahweforchristians from the feed. He didn't seem sincere and only wanted to tear down LDS beliefs. I don't want to give him a forum for that.
Thank you so much for this. A lot of good information! I wish you didn’t talk so fast, I can’t seem to soak it all up. I think I’ve rewound 10 times😅
Noted!
You can slow down the speed by pressing on the settings screen and change to your preference.
@@wendyfoster5579 I always learn new things in the comments. New thinks, too.
@@wendyfoster5579 thank you ☺️
Bro Melchizedek is Shem… written in the book of Jasher 16:11. The son of Noah was Shem. Read the book of Jasher and be enlightened on the things of God in Genesis. God manifest himself thru men or angels but never physically appeared to no one.
I agree, and you'll see in the 3rd video in the series that I use Jasher a lot.
I promise you that you do not know God so well that you can claim what he has or has not done or what he can and cannot do. He tells us that man cannot bear his presence, but that doesn't mean He doesn't have the ability to empower one of his servants to temporarily see him if He wants to. I would NEVER put a limit on what God does or what God can do.
Yes, God manifests himself through men and angels. But I also believe the Bible. The Bible plainly says that both Jacob and Moses saw God face-to-face. The bible is so clear on it that you would have to wrest the scriptures to claim otherwise.
Genesis 32
30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
Exodus 33
11 And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.
@@JJBrown-lw1dv brother.. don’t insult me because I have a God honest opinion. No Jacob wrestled with an Angel and that’s was considered the PRESENCE of God. And Moses never seen God, he seen the manifestation of God. God told him, no man can see his FACE and live.. U got to understand the speech of God bro. Just read:
Exodus 33:18-20
18 And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory.
19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.
20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face👈🏾: for there shall no man see me, and live. 👈🏾
21 And the Lord said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock:
22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:
23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: 👉🏾but my face shall not be seen.
Hosea 12
1 Ephraim feedeth on wind, and followeth after the east wind: he daily increaseth lies and desolation; and they do make a covenant with the Assyrians, and oil is carried into Egypt.
2 The Lord hath also a controversy with Judah, and will punish Jacob according to his ways; according to his doings will he recompense him.
3 He took his brother by the heel in the womb, and by his strength he had power with God: 👈🏾
4 Yea, he had power over the angel, 👈🏾and prevailed👈🏾: he wept, and made supplication unto him: he found him in Bethel, and there he spake with us;
5 Even the Lord God of hosts; the Lord is his memorial.
---- Believe the John, the servant of Christ. Read brother:
John 1:18
18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Did you know that in the book of Jasher (apocryphal) it is said that the last animals that went into the ark were the Lions? These beasts were protecting the ark in the day when Noah’s family entered the ark and the rain was already pouring from heavens. I can totally picture Shem (Melchizedek) controlling the lions for his father so they could defend them from the mob wanting to enter the ark!
How cool. I love that image. What an amazing day that must have been.
I don’t view Jethro as a man of God. Jethro clearly had multiple gods, just as Terah. Moses had direct communication with God, but Terah said what Moses was doing was not good and taught him a different way, which was accepted by Moses without asking God if it should be implemented.
God certainly used him. He gave Abraham his staff. He gave him the priesthood, and he taught all the Israelites, including Moses, to give a Thank Offering to God for their deliverance.
I'll do a video on Jethro in the future that gets into the complexities of his background, based on a number of other Hebrew and Muslim texts and traditions. He was complex, that's for sure.
Your title proposes an interesting question. Since Abraham, Melchizedek and Shem are from the Priesthood of Judaism and Jesus is referred to as the Highpriest. He has established and conferred a Higher standard in that office of Priesthood upon the Apostles who were inspired and instructed by Jesus Christ. It was with, by, and from the Apostles that the Catholic Church began, the question is therefore from where does your Priesthood or Ecclesiastical Authority come from if not from the Apostles who were inspired and instructed by Jesus Christ. Jesus will not and cannot confer another Priesthood which contradicts what He had already conferred and established on the Apostles.
Great question. I would say that the Priesthood of Melchizedek comes to Abraham from Adam. Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph continued down the righteous firstborn line. But is was lost in Egypt sometime after Joseph died.
Then it was restored to Moses, who was a Levite, through Jethro, who was from Abraham, but not Jacob.
The LDS believe that Moses brought down the Law of God that included the Melchizedek Priesthood to the tribes of Israel, but they were worshipping the Golden Calf, so Moses broke that version of the Law, and wrote a version of God's law that only had the Aaronic, or Levitcal, or lesser form of the priesthood.
Certain prophets after that, from various tribes, achieved the Melchizedek priesthood, as individuals, but the Levites (not the Jews) held the Levitical priesthood after that.
When Jesus showed up with the Melchizedek priesthood, he was able to restore it to his Apostles, and hand the keys to Peter, James and John. So, you see, I wouldn't say that the Melchizedek Priesthood comes from Judah. The Cohens, or Levites may still have a right to the Levitical priesthood, but not the Melchizedek Priesthood, or higher priesthood.
After the Prophets were killed off, over the next couple hundred years, the LDS believe the truth in the Church of Jesus Christ eroded, lost its power, and was mingled with the philosophies of men, and became politicized. The record for that is pretty strong.
By the end of the Aryan conflict in the time of Theodosius II, the LDS would say the Church of Jesus Christ had completely ripened into apostasy.
We don't see Peter as a Pope, we see him as one of the last remaining church leaders getting killed off by the Romans. Remember the Romans had killed him 200 years earlier, before Constantine. And we don't see Constantine's deathbed confession as an indication that he was a Pope either.
We don't see anything like an unbroken chain between Peter to Constantine to the very political Holy Roman Empire as the continuation of the Church of Jesus Christ. And if you read your history, you see that the Roman Catholic church doesn't look anything like the Church run by Peter, James, and John, or Paul.
In 2 Thessalonians 2, Paul, toward the end of his life, told the saints that Christ would not come before there would first be a "falling away."
The LDS believe that apostasy began after the apostles were all taken from earth and things became corrupted over the next 200 years. He said:
"2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for THAT DAY SHALL NOT COME, EXCEPT THERE COME A FALLING AWAY FIRST, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes that Joseph Smith, who was of the Tribe of Joseph, and who carried the name of Joseph of Egypt (and who was designated as the firstborn under Jacob) was called to restore the Church of Jesus Christ among the House of Joseph (English speaking people). This represented the firstborn lineage in a Land over the Well in the Everlasting Hills (As promised in the blessing given to Joseph of Egypt by Jacob) finally becoming a fruitful bough, and beginning the work of spreading the restored church to the scattered tribes of Israel. Please see my video "A Remnant of the Lost Tribes" which goes into this in great detail.
The LDS believe that Peter James and John appeared to Joseph Smith and restored the Keys to do all this work back to the Earth. That's why the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints consider themselves to be Christ's restored church after the falling away that Paul predicted, and to be working, again, under the Melchizedek priesthood.
The catholic church was NOT created by the apostles, it is a pagan authority that combined with Christianity. They still bow down to images when God says not too, they pray to the dead when the bible says the dead know nothing, they do not keep the 7th day holy as God instructs, they also use others to mediate between them and God when jesus says there is no way to God but through him.
@user-bz4nm8lf9v Your reply shows that you know nothing of the Bible, who wrote the manuscripts, how did, the Catholic Church have the manuscripts in its possession the fact that those manuscripts which the Catholic church does have proves that the Catholic Church began with, by, and from, the Apostles who were inspired and instructed by Jesus Christ. Even history itself points out how fraudulent your lies are. Obviously, you're a true Anglican/Protestant.
12:56,
Cyrus = Melchizedek
Zerubbabel = Abraham
Jerusalem means "new Salem".
Hebrew scholars actually would say it means "abode of peace" or "city of peace."
PITA BREAD??? PAN DEL MEDIO ORIENTE?
You mention that in Hebrews 5 verse 7 & 8 are about Melchizedek not about Christ. Can you provide the source reference?
Good question. It is from Joseph's handwritten note in the actual manuscript, as follows: “Note-the seventh and eighth verses of this chapter are a parenthesis alluding to Melchisedec and not to Christ.” (JST manuscript, NT 2, folio 4, p. 139.)
@@JJBrown-lw1dv Thank you.
35:48 God maxed out his charisma skill. lol sorry Fallout joke 😅
yeah, but irl
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Why is there so much heavy editing of your audio? Constant splices. Can you elaborate? It’s more than any other channel I’ve ever heard… and that’s saying something.