NEWS: Shelob is in Rings of Power Season 2! My Thoughts & Theories!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Shelob is heading back to our screens, appearing in Season 2 of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power! We'll cover the lore behind the character and my 3 theories on how she could appear.
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hey which would you say is your favoured middle earth book
I had an idea for a Tolkien Theory video. What if Thranduil or Oropher were given a ring of power? Would Greenwood be a great realm alike to Lothlorien and Rivendell? Would the ring keep Greenwood safe from evil like the others?
If I missed this in an earlier video, could you please direct me to it? Thank you!
I respect your work. But I will never watch this crap created by Amazon with is strange cause they are doing really good series. But this one is abomination. For me it doesnt exist. And Tolkien is seriously turning is his grave.. Shame cause they could create something good.
Tolkien left behind what others can use to build/create with. How is it people miss that?
You keep of what is Tolkien to Tolkien. Doing so, is to respect him.
Use what he has created and assemble with.
*No matter how well you think you know Tolkien's work, the actual man will tear apart you're thinking. So, no matter what, no one can be Tolkien!!!!
To try, is to undermind the man himself!!!!
Thus, what Amazon has done, is great work. They are not Tolkien nor, can anyone ever be.
To attack Amazon is to not understand no one but, Tolkien can do proper no matter who you are.
There is 1 master of the work and that man is long gone.
Be thankful, that man's work lives on and is being done with tons of money by Amazon into such a powerful pool of fantasy for all to get the privilege/honor to enjoy.
@@truthseeker6532 Thank you! 🙌Perfectly stated. 💯
Judging by last season, I’d say whatever makes the most sense and true to the lore will absolutely NOT happen. Prepare for a Harfoot vs Shelob episode with the stranger saving the day and Shelob fleeing into the mountains of western Mordor. You heard it here first folks 😂
I have ZERO doubt that this will happen.
They can't help themselves.
Can't wait to come back after season 2 releases and find this comment deleted
@@ghostlyfieldclub2930 or I come back and see yours deleted 😄
The only thing that should be deleted is all choreography in season 1 of rings of shite
So cynical. That's not gonna happen.
Or Galadriel throwing off her cloak saying "I am no man!" Then suplexing Shelob in slow motion.
Stop just stop 😂
GOOD GAWD ALMIGHTY SHE'S DAMN NEAR BROKEN IN HALF!
The Galadriel Tolkien was Foo afraid to write
Had to look "suplex" up on Wiktionary. Yeah, "suplexing" sounds like something Aren't-tanis would do!
Sauron feeding Shelob Adar is the only acceptable thing here .
Whos Adar?
What is Adar?
The most important is why is Adar?
I was actually being serious, who is Adar lol
@W N I don't know but I think you'd best delve deeper. You'd arrive at the answer quicker at least. You would have better luck finding answers at The Entmoot than on youtube. 😊
I think Shelob just makes a beast-like appearance. Hunting orcs or surviving Southlanders for food in her lair. Regarding Adar, I agree Sauron might feed Adar to Shelob or do something far much worse to his former lieutenant as an example to the orcs under Adar's leadership.
@@stevekluth9060 Adar will be the "Azog" of Rings of Power. Sauron and an Orc Lieutenant are pretty much needed in scenes with the Dark Army and its strategic plans of attack during the War of Eregion. It is well-known Sauron cools down when working with enemies he really hates before killing or enslaving them (Example: Numenoreans).
yeh seems pretty reasonable!
They will probably make Shelob a giant hermit crab
More people watched your review video than watched all episodes of season one. Awesome.
Your Adar idea is a good one, it also helps with the actor's departure from the show. He was actually one of my highlights so its a shame that he can't return.
Sauron feeding the whole cast to Shelob would be awesome!
And then himself as well. The show could then end with a bloated Shelob letting out a big fart. To symbolize what Amazon did to Tolkien's work.
I hope they do the lady Shelob thing. Not because it's lore accurate or would benefit the show at all, but because it would be really, really funny.
Some men just want to watch the 2 trees burn 😅
@@Dave0G At this point, why the hell not.
Yep Shelob is digging that wood.
Yes she was sexy
She might own a lemonade stand?
Throwing Adar to the spider would be Sauron’s chance to show his quality
But is it gonna be Spider Shelob or Shadow of War Sexy Shelob? 😅 (i mean, you never know with Rings of Power)
hey, as ridiculous as she was in Shadow of War she was a compelling character with an emotionally engaging story. If they went in that direction it wouldnt be the *worst* thing
@@azeemtravadi6128 she is smashable in the Shadow of Mordor games 😎
It is quite interesting, although sad, to hear from these guys their theories and educated hypothesis on how characters will appear and what their role might be, based on the source material, obviously, only to have it absolutely shattered by the writers of the show.
@@anni.68 But Season 1 did shatter a lot.
It is a big deal if you have as your main character someone that is the complete opposite to both what she was previously in the First Age, and to what she was after the BS that you are just making up. What they did to Galadriel is a disgrace. The oldest elf in Middle Earth (after Cirdan), and the wisest (the disciple of Melian the Maia) running about like an angry teenager?. Absolutely shattered.
As for the double Durin? they didn't really need to do it, even with time compression. Actually, how is time compression a valiud excuse to do that?.
It just shows that they don't give a toss about the source material, because they think they know better. Hubris.
@@anni.68 Simon Tolkien: 'Being Tolkien's grandson blocked my writing ...' He has zero respect for his grandfathers work. He is the embodiment of jealousy, pettiness and spoiledness. This guy is narcissistic he doesnt care/respect his families legacy. I mean he was disowned for a reason. And now hes a consultant on RoP. He will do everything to try to destroy the legacy of the great Tolkien himself because hes not talented enough.
@@anni.68 Yes; Galadriel was into sports, she rode horses (hence her defined as an "amazon"), and she did indeed look at the Dwarves of Khazad-dum with "the eye of a commander". That's all true.
But she wasn't addressing humans as "mere mortals" implying their inferiority, no one in the House of Finarfin would do that; remember that her brother Finrod died helping Beren to escape (he wasn't even killed by Sauron, btw, her whole motivation in the show is just made up BS).
This "Galadrielle" is a revengeful character who needs to be put in place in most occassions by her juniors; like when Elendil compares her to his own kids in the show, after she points a dagger to his neck for no reason!!.
This is no wise, powerful elf...this is most of the time a teenager in a tantrum. All the people she interacts with in the show wants to get rid of her.
We first see her in the show when the soldiers at her command beg her to stop their march, or one of them will die; she answers he can **** right off, as far as she is concerned. She is a psycopath. Are we meant to like her?
I'll say it again, she's the complete opposite to the wise elf who learnt from Melian, as she was described to be in the First Age.
@@anni.68 I never said Tolkien wrote she was the wisest elf in Middle Earth, where do you get that from? Is that your straw man argument?
I do have my opinion on the subject, though; just like you say you have yours.We do know, nonethelesss, that she studied for thousands of years at Doriath, having Melian the Maia as her mentor. She learnt from the wisest deity available at the time, if you will. She's also older that the sun and the moon. So, she's not the type of character who needs to be (rightfully) reprimanded by her juniors, like this "Galadrielle" seems to be.
Finally, we weren't talking here about PJ adaptations; that's a different subject altogether. This is about you saying that S1 of RoP "didn't shatter anything"; and me answering you that what they did to the character of Galadriel is just a sickening disgrace. Absolutely shattered.
@@anni.68 sigh. There was PLENTY of pushback on the PJ adaptation character changes. Especially on Aragorn and Faramir from what I remember. And plenty of push back on other changes too. The difference is that it got enough other things right for a movie that many pre-existing Tolkien fans still enjoyed them. If ROP managed to nail a ton of other aspects of the show (which in my opinion they did not) then the criticism of Galadriel being off would probably be more tempered. It would still be there. Just like it is still there for Faramir. But there would be far more positive discourse for it to be lost in.
Also, in regards to Galadriel he also wrote "from her earliest years she had a marvelous gift of insight into the minds of others, but judged them with mercy and understanding, and she withheld her good will from none save only Feanor. "
Yep that sounds like Rings of Power Galadriel. She definitely seems to have a marvelous insight into the minds of others in the show. 😛
I still maintain it was a mistake to make Galadriel the main character....especially since they insisted on her acting 'young and brash' throughout the majority of the season. I imagine by the end of the series proper, they plan to portray her much more akin to how she should have been by the time the 2nd Age rolls around. But, it shouldn't come as a shock that people don't like her being abrasive, angry, and 'tempestuous' throughout most of what we have gotten to see. If they wanted to explore this character arc with an elf in the show, just invent an actually young elf for it instead of using one of the oldest named characters we have that is currently residing in Middle Earth.
Edit: One last point. If they had changed Aragorn to act like Galadriel does in ROP......there would have been much, much more backlash against that change at the time. Instead, they changed Aragorn to start out more as a reluctant King. That is typically viewed as a relatively positive character trait, thus is an easier change to stomach while you are waiting for him to grow into his true role.
I hope you are right! Sauron feeding Adar to Shelob would be amazing!!!😂🎉🎉❤
I'd like to imagine Shelob has a lure(like an angler fish per se). The likeness of a womans bust and maybe even arms as well sticking out of her maw like a victim but is actually a part of her body that can talk and embrace and bite with something like a human mouth
making Isildur MIA is the most confusing attempt to surprise the viewer as everyone knows he's alive....
Who knows they make him resurrect as Benjamin Franklin as he spearheads the Bolchevik Revolution wearing only his Scottish overcoat.
Still better writing than season 1
I just realized it...the show maker's target audience was never the LOTR fans.... They want the non fans or who only watched the movies..
@@paullin4393 I'm a big fan of LOTR and while I know he must be alive (unless they're seriously butchering the lore), I'm looking forward to seeing how he returns. I don't need to think he's dead to enjoy the story, really. I'm not saying the writing will be great though, haha.
Can you do a video about the war in the north during the battle for the ring
As an avid Tolkien fan and reader (and I admit it, often quick to dismiss or reject things that aren't perfect renditions), I really appreciate your reviews and input on the rings of power. It isn't perfect, but you very aptly point out its positives and possibilities. A good balance I myself don't always go for.
And the vids are just awesome!
Thanks for all the really great work!
I agree, Nerd of the Rings has done some of the best videos with awesomely detailed breakdowns of timelines and locations of the characters.
Me thinks he has gotten a wee bit close to the production staff's web of darkness at times, but he snaps back like a Hobbit and declares shenanigans. Good on him.
Edit: I just want to see new sub plots that are cool, not whole cloth rewrites of the entire story. ROP could have been soooo good.
Nice bot accounts
Nope, not a bot.
Another legend destroyed.
Season 1: Balrog, 5 seconds of screentime
Season 2: Shelob, 3 seconds of screentime
Season 3: ?
season 3 is where they reveal Sauron's mom is actually a Harfoot.
Dragon: Smaug 1 second screen time
Tom Bombadil - .quarter of a second screen time.
I wish we could feed the entirety of season one to Shelob
Shelob would die of starvation rather than eat a single bite of S1.
If they continue to stick as close to the lore as season one shelob will be the most beautyful unicorn we've ever seen
I’m dead🤣
As a lifelong Tolkien fan, I can't express how much it pains me that my reaction on seeing anything to do with Rings of Power S2 is 'oh no, how are they going to butcher this?' I take no pleasure in it, but S1 was so bad that I'm starting to feel about LotR adaptations how Star Wars fans must feel every time they announce a new spinoff - I just want it to stop. Trust has been ruined, and Amazon will never get mine back.
Want to add that Nerd of the Rings is my favourite LotR-themed channel, and I totally get why RoP is being covered. It's just a shame that the show doesn't live up to the heart that fans and content creators put into LotR.
I’m more keen on the 2024 Anime.
Yep
@@bighand1530 Yes, that's one I am, with considerable trepidation, looking forward to. The Rohirrim are my favourite Middle-earth culture, and anime could be the perfect way to tell the story of the siege of Edoras. Let's hope it doesn't go through the awful writer wringer that RoP did.
Ditto
@@bighand1530 is there really a middle earth anime coming out?
I hope we get a 'Young Shelob' spin-off series where we get to understand how her childhood turned her into the social outcast she is today.
I think seeing her "childhood" would be a good horror spin off
I think Sauron feeding Adar to Shelob actually makes the most sense if they even slightly stick to the books. Sauron allowed Shelob to dwell in Cirith Ungol specifically to guard the western pass into Mordor, and even went so far as to feed prisoners to her on occasion.
And thankfully I agree that I find Shelob in human form unlikely. As much as I love Shadow of War, I don't think Rings of Power would risk that, since it would be too blatant a reference for those who had played it, and confusing and off putting for those who hadn't.
Will she be teased in every trailer, and then, when the shows is on. We get a 2 second glimpse like that Balrog?
I have 0 expectations for this anymore. My 4 year old could have done a better story than whatever they called season 1.
She will probably be stunning and brave black lesbian
Given their track record so far, they will screw it up somehow.
Mate - I just love how hopeful you are about the showrunners actually creating such awesome scenarios. I guess hope is all we got :) If I had to choose, then I'd love to see Option 3. It's almost Star Wars-ian in the sense that Sauron would just throw Adar into the pit (like Jabba the Hutt & his rancor)...
Good to remember that Ered Gorgoroth gave name to one of the best Norwegian Black Metal bands: Gorgoroth
Loved how the goat worshipping church burners of the early 90s now, in middle-age, swear allegiance to their Christian brothers against the followers of Baphomet. The irony's delicious.
in the Elton John biopic 'Rocketman' when they're traveling through downtown LA there's a band on the marquee called 'Cirith Ungol'
@@hurin_thalion11 ruclips.net/user/live8dma1xAoAVI?feature=share
I swear you should be the one directing the whole show.
PETER JACKSON is only one who could save it
Did Shelob bite instead of sting in the book? I looked through it for a few minutes, but didn't see a mention of it in the battle scene between Sam and Shelob. It mentions how he was under her belly, and out of reach of her stinger, or her claws (one of which he cut off with string).
At least in that scene, when Shelob is bearing down on Frodo, Sam never sees what happens because Gollum attacks at that moment. When Sam fight him off, he rushes out to see Shelob tying Frodo up.
Do you have a reference to the bite vs sting preference?
Chapter IX. Shelob's Lair.
"(...) and at each leg's end there was a claw." (p. 725, LotR, 2021, Illustred by the author, HarperCollinsPublishers)
Chapter X. The Choices of Master Samwise.
"Now the miserable creature was right under her, for the moment out of the reach of her sting and of her claws" (p. 728)
"There she crouched, her shuddering belly splayed upon the ground, the great bows of her legs quivering, as she gathered herself for another spring - this time to crush and sting to death: no little bite of poison to still the struggling of her meat; this time to slay and then to rend." (p. 729)
"(...) Shelob with hideous speed had come behind and with one swift stroke had stung him in the neck. He lay now pale, and heard no voice, and did not move." (p. 730).
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@Northernmormon : I think you are both right. When "playing", Shelob gives little poison bite. When she want to kill or keep alive but fully paralized, she sting.
I have vague recollections of watching the old animated Hobbit movie when I was a toddler. But my first exposer to LOTR, that I remember clearly, was watching the old 1978 film when I was twelve. Latter that year, for my thirteenth birthday, I saw Fellowship for the first time. I was instantly hooked. I have purchased a few of the books published by Christopher Tolkien, and, just the other week, finished listening to an audio reading of the Tolkien trilogy. And ironically, my favorite book store just called me an hour ago to tell me they had my copy of The Fall of Numenor. I would never call myself a super fan. But I do have massive respect for Tolkien.
I have no love for TROP. Though I have loved Star Wars far longer, in many ways, I feel even worst about what Amazon is doing to Tolkien's work then what Kathleen Kennedy and her ilk are doing to George Lucas's. When I hear news about TROP season 2, I just roll my eyes and say, "Haven't you done enough?"
Though a lot of the ideas NOTR is suggesting here are actually pretty good, I do not believe the writers of the show are clever enough to think of these. And if they are, then they will deliberately choose not to use them because "It focuses too much on a man," or some other stupid excuse. Season 1 sucked massive mumakil balls, and I don't have any faith in season 2.
Remove Tolkiens work from this "show" and you have horrible acting/screenwriting/showrunners. I guess 1 billion dollars/CGI does not equal quality.
Amen to that, I still cross my fingers we will never get a season 2 of trop, it is hinestly not just bad, like you said of star wards, is beyond insulting, and damaging to lord of the rings world.
@@mrfry3 Preach it, brother!
I mean, ROP is super dedicated to the lore, so I’m sure it’ll be a perfect cameo…
Quite dedicated. Particularly dedicated.
Sarcasm?
Sauron will be riding her around like a horse while spreading his supreme knowledge of metal working as he goes..."Did you know you can meld two metals together?"
Ohhhhhh
Shame that the breaking news is not that it was cancelled.
💯
Another character goes to the slaughter.
Might as well show Tom Bombadil too 🙄
💯
BRUH… move on, watch something else. No one cares.
I give up after total quality, flop done by "great " amazon on 1st season..truly a perfect example how to waste cash and claim a success 😕👍
Fr fr 😂😂
What is the music in this video? It is amazing. Thank you.
Hmm I got a bad feeling about this.. the writers need to focus on writing STORY, not fan service such as Shelob or other characters from LOTR for example. Please focus on character exploring and arcs instead of appearences of 'famous' characters from the other stories. Ask yourself, was it thát well done, seeing the Balrog in season 1? Not for me.
You may as well reference Pokémon lore when it comes to speculating what they have planned for season 2.
Every new detail I learn about Shadow of Mordor is more batshit than the last...
It's what happens when you take fanfiction to the extreme, but inconsistencies in lore and themes aside, it's a super fun game.
Those games are incredible. Ignore all of the lore, it’s insane. But the games are great.
i wonder if they will make shelob a scantily dressed woman once again /j
all jokes aside i think shelob worked pretty well in Shadow of War, both her web memories and her actual appearance. not very lore friendly but a compelling character anyway
Would be cool to see shelob mate the hell out of Sauron lol
lol, hopefully in spider form.
The real reason for the writers strike is that some fans of Tolkien were caught feeding the writers of the first season to Shelob. Shelob is writing the entire season herself.
Stop the water torture.
I want to love the show so bad because i want to love everything Tolkien related. But i dont know how i feel about this. But lets hope they keep it short as you said. Awsome video as always! 👌
I fckin love that Nerd says that ex gf waifu of sauron version of Shelob lore in s2 could be a possiblility lmfao! Such a small passing comment but made me laugh at how we can't really rule anything out in these series
Wasn't this the show that wouldn't resort to fan service?
Yeah that ship has loooong sailed
Shelob is to be renamed ‘Theylob’ and be cast as a Butterfly.
They screw it up and have Shelob be a goth girl in disguise like Shadow of War and only in the last episode so they reveal she’s a giant spider the whole time
Listen sweetheart, the damage this show has done to Tolkien’s spirit breaks my heart. The writers and showrunners must be held accountable for bad work and stop pushing this garbage out. Writers strike? The viewers need to go on strike against this show. The writing here is like a dark, corrupt spirit being put out into the world, this is not near the divine work of Tolkien that has lifted and guided generation after generation of man. The challenge is the myopic viewpoint of people not to see the power of bad writing to do harm to the spirit of the viewers in the same way good writing and storytelling can keep a person alive. This is unacceptable.
My money was on Sauron either uses his ring to make sure she never gets the idea to leave or just does something completely different that no one is gonna guess. As for the dark elf's death(cant remember how to spell it) I figured they'd show his brutality and cruelty by making the orcs kill their own father using his new ring.
The appearance of Shelob will be as much as the Balrog appeared in season one...🤔
I expect a small cameo during a flashback, it could also be a flashback during a flashback.
Or a character having a flashback while dreaming...😂
What is the wondeful music in the background? Nerd's used it a few times and I can't find it!
I thought the blonde lady pissing everyone off in Season 1 was Shelob, no?
No, that was Morgoth, returned to deceive us. In fact most of the characters in Rings of Power are actually Morgoth.
So memerberries. Hey book fans, here is Shelob….member her?
We showed Durin’s Bane last season….member him?
Neither character was talked about by Tolkien in the 2nd age, but hey let’s try to get some fans back.
While I can follow your logic in what to do with her correctly, Amazon has shown time and time again that they can’t write a compelling, lore accurate account of a character.
I gave season 1 a chance, I will not with season 2.
Well, Shelob isn't a huge character in Tolkien lore, they couldn't possibly get her as wrong as Shadow of War did lol.
SOW Shelob mommy
Amazon says: Hold my beer.
There is a zero percent chance that I will be watching rings of power season two. Amazon has completely destroyed any hope I have of a future quality Tolkien adaptation.
If it's theory 2 isildur probably comes into contact with Shelob but fights her off only to escape through the gap where Minas ithil will be one day maybe goes down the same path frodo Sam and gollum will in the return of the king
All of your ideas are good, so I don't expect to see any of them in S2
No because fans have actually good ideas 😂
This is a solid ouch because of how damn true it is
Imo it whould be cool to follow Shelob and her mom's traveling and adventures along the way. And i was thinking, maby Shelog dont actually shapeshift but make our brains THINK she's shapeshifting. That whould also be able to be used as a way to catch pray unawear of her true nature
I think Isildur will play the part of the Balrogs, and save Sauron from Shelob (knowing only he’s the rightful king, not actually Sauron)
This would be so cool considering that later on Isildur cuts the ring. Could be called back to in an interesting way
Well, he does become a Nazgûl. So, better make a good impression for his future boss.
As soon as I saw the title I assumed that Isildur would run into her trying to escape Mordor. It would be a great tense sequence if done well and honestly, if it has been thousands of years since his encounter, it makes sense that the encounter could have passed into legend by the end of the third age.
Wouldn’t be surprised if they take inspiration from Shadow of War with Shelob
I little unrelated question here: from where is the map that consolidates Belariand and Middle-earth together? At 2:17
The one thing I never understood with the Return of the King movie was why did Shelob have a stinger? Anyone who knows anything about spiders will tell you that no spider in the world has a stinger like that. I get that Shelob isn't a real spider and it's just a movie, but even in the book she doesn't have a stinger. It makes no sense. I still love the movie though.
Shelob isn't a spider. She just looks like one. She had a bite and a stinger and each had its own type of poison according to the orcs that showed up after Frodo was stung. She can kill instantly with the poison of her bite and for those she wants to eat later she stings then. Frodo specifically says she stings him and doesn't bite him and the conversation that the orcs have bear that out as well.
@@Alexs.2599 Ungoliant was a spirit who took on the form of a monstrous Spider. Shelob was a great spider-like creature akin to those of Nan Dungortheb in Beleriand. Spiders don't have stingers and Shelob did.
@@rlhicks1 I know that Shelob isn't a real spider, I'm just saying it doesn't make sense for her to have a stinger when she has the form of a spider. Also the book doesn't say she has a bite and a stinger, only that she has more than one poison.
The stinger refers to her fangs. It's never described that she aimed her butt against Sam to stab him, or something like that (like in PJ's scenes). So we can assume she can delicately bite you in the neck, to paralyze.
@@squashedeyeball No it doesn't and Shelob had a beak and not fangs. "Slowly he (Sam) raised his head and saw her, only a few paces away, eyeing him, her beak drabbling a spittle of venom, and a green ooze trickling from below her wounded eye. " and later on "Sam sprang in, inside the arches of her legs [...] Now the miserable creature was right under her, for the moment out of the reach of her sting and of her claws." Shelob was "spider like" but had a beak and an actual stinger.
Thank goodness they're in the UK, she should be protected by the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981.
Shelob is back 😍😍😍😍😍
Why not flashback with ungoliant instead...
You should cover the shadow of mordor , Shadow of war series
Another theory: Maybe she will be the doom of Celebrimbor when Sauron takes the 16 from him; it could be interesting if he teams up with Shelob to steal them, and if this is another nod to the Silmarillion, as you pointed out they have done a few times due to not having the legal rights to it, similar to Melkor and Ungloliant killing the trees and taking the Silmarillions.
Nod? More of a finger at this point. I really don't understand why it's a total rewrite. So many stories can be written around the wealth of information in the appendices.
@@rofflestomp684, when will be the season two ?
After the first season I wouldnt be surprised if she shows up on a chariot drawn by two beautiful white horses played by Lizzo with no context.
I was hoping they wouldnt butcher tolkien anymore
Let me guess...five minutes of screen time before Galadriel defeats her, using only her left arm and blinded.
I love your videos, one of the best source of information Tolkien related. Alas, there is one thing that somewhat triggers me, especially when done by a channel like this: the anglicization of names. Fortunately, Tolkien himself left us some instructions on how to pronounce names of characters, places, etc. belonging to Arda.
Shelob, a large, powerful, thousand year old being, defeated by a letter opener and a Hobbit. Shiver me Timbers
They’re filming it during the writers strike. No way I’m watching some scab show.
So they might be getting better writers?
Funny! Ungolianth went to the south of the world ... and Tolkien was in South Africa when he probably first saw a spider and for sure was affraid of it if he talked that much about this creature in is world/books.
Well this is New having shelob have a small role in the upcoming season 2 of the rings of power is good i wonder what she might be like like maybe both a human form like in shadow of war and her giant spider form have you ever heard of this character named cardan i apologize if I prounce it wrong he was one of the keepers of the three elven rings you should do on him as well as other characters from the lord of the rings franchise as well as illustrating battles from the first second and third age videos as well which would be awesome please leave a like and a comment definitely sauron would feed adar to shelob im with you on that.?
There will be a second season????? Nooooooo please. I can't not watch it but I still can't stand it 😂😂😂😂
I believe it’s 7 seasons 😬
@@ceooftoast81185 seasons mandatory, 7 if Amazon wants to extend
More people didn’t finish Season 1
@@bighand1530 I rewatched season 1.
@@bighand1530 twice.
I don't know why, but I'm not very eager to see that.
I could see any of the non-human Shelob theories presented here happen. We know Sauron occasionally feeds Shelob things tastier than orcs.
Sheldon is probably the most horrendous yet magical creature ever
@@Alexs.2599 ….sry fricking auto correct…
Shelob*
@@Alexs.2599 I thought sleepy was talking about Big Bang Theory, I was like "horrendous yes, but magical?".
I'll bet Amazon "Reimagines" Shelob as a giant purple duck.
As entomologist seeing that spider sting Frodo in ROTK instead of biting him annoyed me. Arachnids don't have abdominal stingers, wasps, bees, and ants do.
Is this show still being taken seriously?
Sadly yes, by a few strange people anyway.
Can’t wait to see Shelob as a mixed-race Scorpion
Shelob and Ungoliant fan here... I mean, not a fan of theirs, because they're evil, but I love all of the unknowns about them 🖤.
I'd rather they be kept mysterious dark characters/ terrors...
Have u seen shadow of war game؟she is saurons lover
Shelob is Adar
I've heard from leaks that Shelob is going to get a shrimping boat with bubba when the war is over.
i hope it's sauron adopting shelob as a pet and giving her head pats
And calling her his "fur baby".
So will Theoden, Frodo, Gloin, Negan and Jamie Lannister.
in all reality, a harfoot goes off trail and together with shelob they break into song about not going off trail.
they're making a second season??
Who is Adar? And how he become first orc?
I have zero hope for the second season. I tried to view the first season as a story disconnected from the lore but found that it lacked much even as it’s own entity.
haters gonna hate
@@zentai5076 I’m not a fan of poor writing and bad acting. It’s true. Hardly make me a “hater”.
@@rymic72 your comment history shows an obssesion with telling the world how much you hate this show. good for you, nobody cares
@@zentai5076 It’s badly done. I feel sorry for you having no taste and just consuming the trash they’ve given you.
They went above and beyond to make sure this show failed in every way possible. You have to be in awe of that level of ineptitude.
Giant spiders? Excellent, give me all you’ve got. Shelob? That strikes me as more *jingle keys* look what we have, look how cool our show is!
Great, I wonder if Shelob will need mithril to survive like the elves or something similarly ridiculous.
when is the new season coming out guys?
Frodo: "I am wounded with knife, STING, and tooth, and a long burden."
"Ironic."