The almost forgotten study level jet: Let's fly the MD-88 | Orlando - Miami | Real Airline Pilot
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I think people forget and avoid the MD-80/83/88 by Leonardo because it's one of the most expensive modules for MSFS ever produced! That plane is $82 currently and never goes on sale.
The version @a330driver is flying is currently €90 for the base MD-82 plus another €30 for the MD-83 and MD-88 Expansion Pack... It's absolutely crazy expensive.
If that's what it takes to have true high fidelity aircraft, then so be it, I guess. We're currently living in a sea of mediocrity with developers such as Captain Sim, Latin VFR, Aerosoft, and, I dare say, FSS. These developers get WAY too much of the spotlight. It's refreshing to have options such as the Maddog, Hotstart Challenger, etc.
too be fair it was the first Study Level plane for MSFS and they didn't have other products to base the price off of
I love this bird! I use to break the monotomy of modern airleners like 737 and A320 plus I like the strange looks of the cabin it keeps me busy and entertained :)
One of my favorite planes in MSFS. I use to fly the Rotate MD 80 in X Plane but I think this plane is better. IMO one of the most under appreciated airplanes in the sim. People need to give more credit to the Mad Dog. I'm happy you did a video on it.
Such a lovely aircraft! Having maintained those birds for about ten years, they certainly have a special place in my heart. Now I take care of a bunch of E190s!
48:09 looks like the real ac does this aswell, thats why it is handflown through the acceleration phase until FD is stable or you set vertical speed to maintain climbing attitude before going to vnav.
That's good to know. It's always been frustrating trying to establish the SID because it pitches into a descent whenever I engage the AP.
Nice video on the Maddogg i love this aircraft but it seems forgotten but when you fly it again its really fun
“We don’t need to worry”. Famous last words 😆
It's crazy how good this plane is and then it's insane how their sounds are them recording a hair dryer with their phone.
I use the ftsim sound package as does Emanuel. It really makes the airplane perfect.
I Refuse to pay the ridiculous price for it! The developer should put it on sale and they would have a flood of people like me buying it!
When you compare the level of system detail to developers such as FSS, who are charging $40 for an aircraft that still doesn't even have a proper FMS, or the fact that PMDG charges $70 for the 738, I think the Maddog is reasonable. I think we're getting used to the prices that mediocre developers such as LatinVFR and Asobo(ATR) are setting that we think all prices should be that low. This is a proper study level aircraft.
I absolutely love legacy airliners and the Mad Dog is definitely one of my favorites.
Thanks for featuring this fun and slightly obscure aircraft.
I'm another MD-80 fan, though fly the Rotate MD-80 since I'm on X-Plane 12. Definitely like seeing some of the "old iron" on your channel!
Nice to see you flying to my Home Airport! I love the area. Awesome video
great video. Thank you. I used to fly the MD80 in xplane. It was an amazing plane. The 88 looks good. I will look into it in msfs. Thanks again
I wish we had more classic study level airliners in MSFS, like the Comet, the first jetliner, the Boeing 707 the first successful , or the 727, 747-100 or 200, L1011 ....
What, are the 17 different A320s not keeping you entertained? LOL It's comical how many Airbus aircraft, particularly A320s, exist currently in the flight sim world. I've lost count between MSFS and XPlane. It's actually a bit infuriating with how little choice we have in finding true "study level" aircraft. It's either an A320 or 737 and I'm a bit bored at this point. Thankfully we have the Maddog and other planes such as the Hotstart Challenger or FlyJSim Q400 that gives a nice break from A320 fatigue.
Definitely like to see you do more flights and tutorials in this legend!!
yeah you right man this one is one of the best
I have never trusted the Leonardo MD80's VNAV Climb after takeoff. My climb height procedure goes (1) "Half", set vertical speed mode and cut your climb rate in half, or set 1,000fpm, (2) EPR LIM and Climb power, when at thrust reduction height, then transition to (3) IAS mode at 250kn. I'll give it over to VNAV once I pass 10,000 so it can set the econ climb speed and handle the transition to mach hold automatically.
Fun fact, When the Minimums callout came on, to the right around 1 block away. Theres a Aviation technical college that has a American MD83 i believe parked there for the students to play on. Pretty cool. The school is called George T baker Aviation Technical college
Good to see you back in the Maddog! I've been flying this beauty recently myself as well!
It’s one of those planes you just need to come back to every now and then, is it?
@@A330Driver Absolutely, it also helps that it keeps getting updates, much respect and kudos to the Leonardo team.
BTW, I think like 50% or more of the CBs are modeled but some are not. (that why the one you clicked didn't pop xD)
Emi, what are the chances of doing a tutorial series for this bird? 😊
I think a good video would be on the Just Flight's BAE 146. One of my best aircrafts in the sim also.
I fly it alot - just because it is different and you really need to stay on top of things while flying!
Awesome! Love the maddog!
The best study level sim to date alongside with Fenix's a320.
Only for msfs, nothing beats the challenger 650 :)
@@CMBelite-FRI would even say there are several other planes in XPlane that are quite comparable to planes like the Fenix and Maddog, such as the FlyJSim Q400. Not necessarily in systems depth because it's a simple plane IRL, but with modeling the quirks and characteristics of it. You basically have to relearn to fly with it because you can easily end up making a mess of things if you don't. The flight modeling is fantastic. But I do agree about the Challenger!
@@robbyyant6213 I still prefer the majestic Q400 on p3DV5, it out performs the Q4XP by a mile
You just trying to make me buy this Emi? Lol. I asked a question about it, and now a new video. 😁 Nice!
I love this plane and this livery! Next time you're in Miami, drive by the William T. Baker Aviation school (right across from 26L) and you'll see one of these donated by American, sticking out of the school's hangar bay.
I love flying this great "janky jet!" Feels like so much was cobbled together as an afterthought (like the hyd switches and ND mode switches). Reminds me of the Millenium Falcon! 😄 And the aurals are the best of any aircraft. . .or the most annoying sounds in the world! (I missed it though, is there a step to set the TO CG via the wheel by long trim wheel setting wheel?)
Nice to see you take this for a spin- seems like an overlooked and forgotten plane in the MSFS community.
I find myself reaching for this plane quite often in MSFS- it's a "mainline" plane but doesn't feel out of place going to most of the smaller stations. And I enjoy the challenge of remembering to do everything- the semi-automation of the aircraft systems means you really have to pay attention to what's going on with the flight. Makes you appreciate the automation in the 737NG and Airbus products, or even regional jets.
At work I've been flying with a lot of guys who flew these IRL before they went away- almost nobody misses them. I think I would have been fine except for the fact most of them did not have FMS, so they were navigating VOR to VOR with paper flight plans. But the Leonardo model is very nicely equipped with dual FMS, ACARS, and EFB. The EFB and GSX integration are good and make for a really nice experience, IMO.
(Full disclosure- I'm a beta tester so I probably spend more time thinking about this plane than most!)
I thought most MD80s had an FMS, at least the ones flying in the 90s up to recently. Is that not the case?
....thanks again, this was a nice one
Very good cockpit texture
as a cabin crew i loved what said at minute 33
Howdy Emi. You were asking about the antenna on the taxi out. Those are the ATC radio antennas. You will find them around most US airports and often scattered elsewhere in larger metro areas to ensure proper frequency coverage.
Thank you!🙏
Never ever forget the last real ❤airliner ❤
That would widely be the 777 though ;-)
In case you have Drzewiecki Design's Chicago and KMDW, taking off RW04R and landing 22L are pretty scenic and cool! Hope you give it a try someday on a Southwest 737! (Their hub!)
I think I remember somewhere that the real MD80 pilots confirmed that the VNAV was a bit unreliable directly after takeoff and they normally would handfly it until after acceleration phase and in stable climb. It's been a while since I looked into it though, but I have since just handflown it after takeoff following the FD and it has been fine with that procedure.
I also recall hearing that you had to pay attention during the decent phase because it tended to arrive high and fast. Seems like this is implemented pretty accurately with the Maddog as I'm always having to lose excess energy when setting up for approaches.
Nothing beats the silver bullet livery on the MD-80.
Makes me think that I should buy this aircraft. I worked on these on the ramp in Syracuse, NY. In the late 80's and the 90's. Hated working on them, the rear cargo bin was a B**#h. All oil canned on the floor and jagged sheet metal, those doors were hell to load cargo through. But I loved the look of this airplane. I remember the wing were super critical in cold weather operations. The only plane we had to de-ice on frosty mornings. Pain in the ass, but pretty all the same. The only worse airplane from a ramp standpoint was the F-28 and F100.
The Maddog is the most fun airliner in msfs in my opinion. It is a pity that Leonardo approached MSFS with an old mindset and released it at a very steep price and they didn't bother updating the model from P3D so it looks subpar on screenshots, but the systems modeling etc are great.
I mean, if you compare the price to what other developers are offering, it's not bad. PMDG charges $70 for the 738 and even mediocre developers are charging $30 to $40 for aircraft that don't even give half of what this plane offers in terms of systems depth and flight modeling. FSS is charging $40 for EJets that don't even have a properly modeled FMS.
Not forgotten by me, I fly ths birdy most in flightsim in years, since it came out first.
It’s the best aircraft !
This is my favourite plane by far takes some real studying an if u ask me yes is expensive but worth every penny in my opinion 😁
I think it's worth it when you consider the trash other developers such as LatinVFR, FSS, and Asobo are releasing. It's refreshing flying something that you can actually damage if you just ram the throttles forward on takeoff.
Purchased when released but could never get on with it may have another go
I think you forgot to set correct CG on the pedestal before takeoff. I believe that effects the trim setting. Could that have caused the weird AP behaviour after takeoff?
"Flight Simmers Dream Seat"!!! LOL - so very true! Shame its a thing of the past now due to security.
Almost forgotten? The thing gets more updates than a lot of major sim planes 😂
This is the Leonardo Fly The MadDog, correct? Specifically the expansion pack?
I love flying this airplane but I can’t get the FT Sim sound pack to work. Not sure why because it used to work but now after the update I have no sounds. If anyone knows how to fix it let me know. Great video!
Sometimes I watch these videos on 2x speed and I'm thinking to myself Emanuel must be feeling dangerous today
What are the add on engine and windshield sounds you have active here? I’d like to get them too. Thanks!
FTSim+ for the engines, FSRealistic for the winds.
Thank you for this video. I luv the Maddog and my last few flights have been with it. My problem is landing. As soon as I take it off Auto, I veer based on crosswinds, and have a lot of trouble getting back on track. do you use the rudder (foot pedals) a lot during landings or just standard yoke movement? Also, any special sensitivity settings you use? or just the normal default? Thanks again.
Don’t use the rudder, except for decrabbing in the flare. All the rest is aileron only.
That applies to any jet by the way.
Thank you so much for the quick reply. Appreciate the help.
FLY THE MAD DOG AMAZING! 😎😎😎
Forgotten? Maybe by the people who just fly A320s and 737s.
I haven’t seen anyone fly this plane except people in coastal airlines
So... Most people lol?
at least for me I don’t want to fly obsolete planes that are not used real world or spend the money on them
@@BraydenMorsey same goes with me, I fly real world routes, every now and then I’ll hop in the Fokker or something because I wanna mix things up and work on my VOR navigation skills but it’s not very common
@@BraydenMorsey I have never understood why so many simmers limit themselves to present day operations. The world of commercial aviation has never been more monotonous and boring. To each their own I guess.
Hi, where can I get a better sound for this aircraft? Regards
FTSim+
Love this addon but it's too heavy for my PC.
For me with the Fenix, it’s the best addon for MSFS, only if you add the ftsim+ soundpack, because default sounds are.. crap.
Hi, where can I get a better sound for this aircraft? Regards
@@josueisraelriosmartinez3288 check ftsim+
Nice video.
I have this, but I don't overly like it. I don't think it's worth the cost, certainly. I don't think it's a particularly memorable plane to fly to be honest. The A300 is now my favourite, so far as an older airliner is concerned.
The biggest issue with this addon are the price. Used to love it in p3d but when it's charged so much higher than a 737 or 320 is it deficult to draw in new people to that aircraft type.
If they lowered the price and gave some kind of reward for the already owners like perhaps a md88 or something it would definitely help the sales
Exactly, for the price, they could include ftsim+ soundpack ! The sounds are the same since fs9
I agree that the Fenix price is great, however, I think PMDG is a bit expensive for what you get. I mean, they charge full price for each model, even if you already own another. The sounds leave a bit to be desired as well, especially when compared to Fenix.
I wish they would make an x-box version!
Engine model isint accurate either, compare epr numbers at cruise vs the book it’s like it has no parasitic drag
I like it, but I can't justify the cost when the sounds and some textures are FSX quality. It's dumb to think you need a sound mod to "fix" it when other aircraft from different devs get everything right from the top down for far less money. I think the new A300 is more enjoyable anyway for an aircraft from that in-between era with steam gauges and CRT screens.
Drag is required, this plane is a soap in the shower
Those tiny wings make this thing a proper jet.
Extremely pricey for a very niche plane that is no longer flown IRL.
Intel vs AMD in 2024... ?
Emanual The antennas you asked about are RCAG antennas (Remote Communication Air to Ground) Used for ATC comms from Tower/Apch/FSS and ARTCC. I'm retired FAA ATC.
its forgotten bc nobody wants to fly an md80. additionally its way too expensive.
Hallo! Ich finde es schwach, wie katastrophal dein Englisch ist. "For five years I flew the 737 across Europe before I changed airline and aircraft to now fly the A330" müsste mit ELP Level 4 eigentlich heißen "For five years I've been flying the 737 across Europe before I changed the airline and aircraft to fly the A330..." Ich werde das bei Gelegenheit beim nächsten LPC ansprechen.
Forgotten because it is overpriced.
Way too expensive. Poor quality port.
The textures aren’t good but everything else is really well modeled and realistic. Definitely not too bad for the money.
The textures aren't good? I don't know what kind of system you have or what settings you are running . The MD 80 is one of the best looking cockpits in my MSFS sim. I marvel at it every time I spawn into it
@@ikennamadueke9131 the exterior mostly but also some interior: have you not compared the pmdg or say the new inibuilds a300? I run a 4090 so it ain’t my computer
Doesn't seem too bad when you consider developers such as FSS are offering a plane that's barely flyable for $40. When I say barely flyable, I don't consider being able to takeoff and fly around to be flyable in a regional jet, because that would be an incredibly low bar that even Captain Sim could meet. What I mean is that there's so much missing that keeps you from flying it as you would in the real world. To me THAT is too much money.
@robbyyant6213
Yes. You may have a point. The ATR was a massive joke.
So is it good now ?
I'm waiting on the 747 from PMDG... but I nay be waiting a while.
I loved the Maddog in FSX by Coolsky.
I may actually consider it.
AA never operated the -88. That was Delta…