* Germany beats Scotland 5-1: "Scotland were really bad " *Germany beats Hungary 2-0: "They were lucky not to conceide" *Germany draw with Switzerland: "They're starting to come back to Earth and see their level" *Germany beat Denmark 2-0: "VAR was very harsh against Denmark." Why does there always need to be some asterisk along side their results. At this stage, they're clearly great and Germany Spain could be the game of the tournament.
Football is a game of nuances. In bad faith, they will always find a reason to criticize, no matter what. At the end of the day germany is a revitalized powerhouse of the game. And obviously people refuse to acknowledge that, because they fear another great opposition and obstacle. Ironically in a way, it's a sign of respect.
@@davidsmithy123 if we open the discussion on the offside. Than I want the Schloterbeck goal back. There was no foul, just a regular block. Goal should have been counted.
If havertz was more clinical in front of goal it would've been a very comfortable win for Germany, overall they deserved to win despite some controversial decisions but they seriously need to think about starting fulkrug as their striker
Beside clinical infront of goal, haverts playing well. Perfect penalty, and great positioning. To open the play. Fulkrug cannot do that. Make fulkrug supersub, its already the best decision.
2-0 is pretty comfortable, especially looking at Denmark basically looking non threatening all game except for a spell of 10 minutes pre weather break and when they got a couple corners in a row from which they scored their offside goal.
"We saw Denmark go head - the goal was then disallowed." Klinsmann then basically repeats the phrase. What about the disallowed german goal in the 4th minute?
French here. What are we discussing? Denmark lost 1 point due to var, and had an offside, germany lost 2. And to top it all off, schmeichel was insane this game, germany had like 3 shots directly on target in firsg 20mins, and each one being VERY good. Im sorry but if denmark wouldn't have played to penalties, they stood no chance this game. The best player from them was Schmeichel, propably the best keeper i have seen so far in the euros. Im sorry but there were VIDEOS SHOWING, that it eas offside and that andersen hit the ball, the chip inside the ball even marked it. It was just fair. Var took back 2 of germanies goals, so please, don't cry cause if one goal that the danes lost
We're not angry because it was offside, because it was correctly called. But to call a penalty because the ball hits Andersen's thumb from half a meter away is crazy. The ball doesn't change direction or anything. And Denmark was playing even with Germany before they called that penalty and even better several times in the match. But the referee turned the game around and it killed Denmark's energi. And both of germanys goals were clearly not legal
you clearly did not listen to what they actually said about the handball, what they said was the when a human being runs your arms go out ahead of you, this is a natural position. That is why they said that they agree with the handball being given because according to the rules it is correct but that the rules are wrong.
The only “controversy” (re: whining) comes from people who simply wanted Germany to lose. The big decisions (each team had goals chalked off, and the penalty) were tough but fair.
@@JollyRoger-kr2iy Read the UEFA handball rules. 100% penalty. I don't like the rule either, but it is a factual decision without any interpretation unlike the first disallowed German goal, that was disallowed due to the refs interpretation.
@@ajeettv "touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised"- again for me the player was running and a natural movement - not on purpose.
It was deserved, more possession, much better chances to score. Offside is offside, whether it's 1 mm or 5 meters, if you don't want that, you don't need VAR anymore.
when england had more possession and better chances to score against denmark in the last euros, everyone said they didn’t deserve to win because of one dodgy decision ….
@@11uminescence Then it was just wrong back then, anyone who sees today's victory as undeserved didn't see the game. The 1-0 win for Germany was more of a 50-50 thing and Schlotterbeck's goal would have been given to the refs too
Might aswell just dedicate the win to the #1 in FIFA Ranking. - Dont need to have all of the games then. If the underdog cant be allowed to win. Idiot.
@@wraynzz3086 body contact have to be two players fighting for the ball, the german who was blocking had zero interest in the ball. did not even look in its direction
@@derek4177 you defend your space standing still or fighting for the ball.. any deliberate hard contact outside of this is very clearly against the rules
There’s nothing controversial here though? Denmark were unlucky sure but all the calls were undeniably correct. The offside is marginal but factual, and the handball is pretty clear, well away from his body (albeit only grazed the hand). Germany’s disallowed goal also clear foul by Kimmich once you see the replay. Not sure what there’s to argue about.
@@Kuddochanwell im afraid thats not true, in premier league it wouldnt be called, and thats tje scary Thing, because the same rules should apply in all tournaments
That's the point. They compare Kimmichs clear faul with 0.00000001 cm of offfsite 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Germany Fanboys are insane. FIFA clearly got a deal with Germany. They do everything to let Germany win. Kimmichs also didn't get a card for the faul. Best way to boost a team. Don't give cards
Musiala is something else maann.. Nothing but PURE talent..His ball control, silky dribbling and playmaking skills are something else..The young Magician 🥶🔥🪄
kimmich attacked a danish defender, gundogan blocked the goalkeeper...there is no debate about that decision. I love Germany but this was a disgrace and the referee is to blame
@@chrisb2942 you can`t actively block a player if you are not fighting for the ball..also close to the ball. the blocking german was not close to the ball and did not even look in the direction of it^^
Germany would be top tier if Havertz was a good striker and Sane wasnt so selfish with the ball. The lad is the most annoying german player to watch by far.
Havertz gets his head often first to the ball and then cannot place it properly. Not much better with his feet. Sane instead of Wirtz was a disgrace, worst German player on the pitch, pretty much useless, whiny, drops to the ground, poor body language and effort. He must have indicting knowledge from Nagelsmann's time at Bayern.
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I can understand VAR debates about fouls because that line is fluid, but it has quite literally eliminated all room for debate about the questions wether a hand had contact or wether someone was offside because it's unchangeable facts...
But the debate is, yes the line shows offside but the angle of the pass is not visible for people to see when the ball is kicked... So in this case there can be a level of manipulation. I am not saying this was but you see where people can come up with issues with the line if the whole picture is not show and they are showing just one angle...
no it isn't @holyflick. The offside is 1 cm off - which is not scientific. It is instead about frames and which milisecond you stop a frame at - when calling the offside. VAR is therefore not accurate down to 1 cm. So the goal should have stood.
VAR always makes the correct call when it favors your team. If it does not favor your team, then VAR sucks. With all that said, Denmark did not do enough to win the game, deserved for Germany. Sané sucks.
If you have the technology to measure millimeters, you have to make decisions based on that. You can not make decisions by feel anymore, because that won't be fair. Same with the handball. The only fair way is the strict enforcement of the rules. When you start o make exception based on intention etc. you get less fair because the next scene you will have a different ruling.
Romelu lukaku had 3 goals disallowed. Germany hag 1 vs scotland and 1 here. Many goals were disallowed for 1 micromillimeter offside. Nobody complained. Germany deserved to win this match.
Idk if you watched, but germany had 2 disallowed goals just this match, and on top way more and better shots on target. The people who really complain should rethink watching this sport, the rules are older then all the players today, and var just makes sure the rules will not be broken by people.
@@Ikuya.miraculous Exactly. Im just waiting people wanting to cancel Musiala's goal as he lifted pedal for a second and confused Schmeichel, thus it was illegal moved.
Yes. Probably several million Danish citizens. And by the way: Michael Oliver changed this game into a farce. Some people are probably willing to call this scandalous. Not me though. Just saying.
As a German I’ll admit Oliver is one of europes worst refs. Many bad decisions this game. The VAR ones were clear… The ref was not good, but Germany was just better…
There is zero debate! I wouldn't give the penalty, cause I don't like the rule, but it is in the book! Greetings from germany and at the end we won, cause we where better even we missed a lot of chances! Sané is pure trash not trying to do anything and was just jogging his nice hair around! I don't ever want to see him again in this tournament because we need 11 Players who are fighting or even trying to play football against the Spaniards!
Yep Sane sadly does not work in the NT, Havertz also was crazy inconsequential infront of goal today. I think I counted 4 clear 100% chances for him with lots of time and acres of space and he missed all of that. You might say he was the best defender of Denmark today, by clearing away so many big chances for Germany...
Thank god you are not a referee then. I don't like the current handball rule either, but as a ref you are supposed to enforce the rules, whether you like them or not.
Denmark was atrocious the whole tournament: has not won a single game and scored only 2 goals in 4 games. Now suddenly they thought they deserved to go forward instead of Germany? Regardless of the refereeing, Germany was better than Denmark in all departments.
football don't work like that. var rruined this game. Past time they looked into how offside and handballs like that are referee'ed. cause this is atrocious.
You all seem to forget that the VAR disallowed germanys first goal after 4 minutes. How tf do you think the game will go if germanys ahead after 4 minutes Jesus get over it
Whahhaha germany only started playing better after they could counter after the first goal. They were on the backfoot after the opening 20. The goal in the 4th minute: smeichel would have easily got it if gundo doesnt block the goalkeeper from offside position. For me germant have definitely lost their favourite status xD
that's not the argument. The Danes scored a goal and received an unnecessary penalty. Germany is a better team but hey, the first two worlds championships they won, they won from better teams.
@@derek4177 your excuse is you don`t know the game that well.. your other comment(the german body blocking) reveal that nicely. sure blocking with no or little interest in the ball happens quite often, but this one was really clear cut. he doesn`t look in the direction of the ball
@@hotdog9262 I dont need an excuse because I am happy with the result and its fair. So again, you make zero sense. I played the game myself, apparently you have never been on a football pitch LOL. Blocking like that is very very common and normal, actually we even trained that haha. And my statement was just related to the game and the facts. So what are you crying about now, I dont get it? The goal was not given anyway, so what is your point?
VAR was created so solve all these problems alright and aometimes they make controversies but also sometimes media and fans create their own false controversies just to have conversations and blamegame when VAR makes the right call
I don't think VAR was designed to focus on handballs. It's a negative side effect to it. A random ball graces a players hand becomes the deciding factor in a game. Is there anything more unsatisfying then that? Does it even feel like a real win?
For me, all decisions made sense and were made up to UEFA standards. In the end, Germany had two goals disallowed, and Denmark got the offside and the penalty against them, all rightfully though. So it was balanced and the goal of Musiala made the difference. Biggest referee question mark would be not giving yellow and free kick for the foul from behind on Sané at the penalty semicircle.
"They need to check if he really did that on purpose" - What a absolute crazy statement. Lets then implement therapy-sessions for red card fouls, because he didnt do it on purpose. Maybe he had a bad childhood or was to fast so he broke the other guys foot by accident.
I think people spend too much time whining whenever a team wins a game and gets a result that they didn’t deserve purely because of the ref. Germany vs Denmark, we all know what happened as in the game today as in the 1st half, the game was stopped for a couple of minutes due to lightning and a thunderstorm in the stadium as the refs felt as if it wasn’t the safest conditions for the players to play in. Anyways at the start of the 2nd half, Denmark had a disallowed goal which was the right decision from the ref because as you can see from the replay, their player was offside and this is something that cannot be argued against and in the box when they were defending, it was an obvious penalty because you can’t be sticking your hand up in the wrong area of the pitch. At the end of the day, it’s easy for people to not give Germany the credit that they deserve for winning 2-0 because there were some decisions that went in their way, this is part of football and just sports in general nobody can change the way a ref officiates a game because decisions have to be made and you shouldn’t spend 24/7 crying about it. Regardless of what people think of the refs, Germany went about their business and for the most part of the game they were the better team and of course there’s some weaknesses that Julian Nagelsmann needs to address because they’ll get punished by the better teams in the latter stages of the tournament, they have been an impressive team and you wouldn’t be shocked if they go on to win the EUROs because they’ve shown that there are periods where they don’t have to be great as they’re able to do enough to get the job done in the end and that’s all that matters in a major tournament.
Sure they will be cracked by Spain's sharply incisive neat passing posession-inspired vision that boasts fluid cyles of sustainable interchanging position rhythm being lightened by relentless change of combination tempo and dynamic pace of trandition into penetration in reliace of their two gifted wingers showing a direct feature in attack
@@dynasty201 Actually no. To break germany, you have to play like Switzerland or Denmark. Park the bus. The dynamics will be diffrent when germany and spain meet. They going to play open. And you should not play like that against germany otherwise you are going to be the one who is getting crushed. Its a 50/50.
@@dynasty201Spain has done it so far against bang average teams: Albania (huge underdog), Italy (do I have to say anything😂😂😂) and an aging Croatia, it remains to be seen how they will perform against very good sides
@@dynasty201 lmfaoooo I swear you just clicking the next word on your keyboard or something 🤣🤣🤣 all big important words but it doesn’t make sense at all 😂😂 how do you do it ?? I looked at your other comments and I can’t tell if you’re trolling or what
Klinsmann, GERMANY scored the first disallowed goal after 5 mins. They were limited with Sane on the right, they played better against Switzerland, Wirtz needs to come back in andreich and Gundogan were below standard this game as well. Havertz doesn’t pass the eye test but gets full marks for his effectiveness in confusing defences.
Either you play him wide or bench him because the guy isn't a clinical finisher....the chances he got and continuously gets and fails to tuck them away....??😢😢😢😢germany will pay a huge price for it should they come across more resolute teams and hit them on counters
Yes he was,esp with his movements but it's doing what matters most and at a time when it's needed most...am not bashing him but germany needs a striker similar to haaland or else they will be eliminated just as italy
People pulling the Italy comparison card? 🤣🤣😂 You skipped England/France/Belguim as terrible offensive performance before you can mention germany. Also you’re basically insulting everyone by comparing anyone’s offensive with Italy’s idea less non existent offensive that couldn’t even work for goal opportunities to fail 😂🤣
It's a handball because the hand helps you and diverts the ball to a place it wouldn't be if the hand wasn't there. Whether you do it deliberately or not, it's a handball because your hand helps you.
Like little kids, once they don't like something it's impossible to get them to change their minds, you just need to wait until they grow up. VAR is great, get over it, or go back to riding horses instead of using cars. Anderson could've ran faster and avoided being in a position where he needs to take that pose, he didn't get a card because it was unintentional. Period.
VAR was created to reduce the amount of mistakes made by refs and it’s doing that. How about the offside the rule has always been there, we just didn’t have the technology that allowed us to see the closer calls. This is not about VAR, it’s about the rule in itself. You can’t blame VAR officials for doing their job, there is no “minimum margin” required for an offside to be called, even if it’s half an inch it’s an offside
It was obstruction. He literally blocked a player without looking at the ball so the other guy could go free and head it in which is what happened. If you think that should be allowed then corners are gonna be very different from now on. Defending is gonna be very different from now on.
Why is it that anytime Musiala does anything the first thing certain people think about is Bellingham? You guys are already worse than "Pendu and Pessi" losers. Please get out of your house.
Why is it anytime Musiala does something, the first thing some people think about is Bellingham? You guys are worse than "Pessi/Penaldo" losers. Please get out of your house.
Pr is strong with Bellingham. Don’t get me wrong, I like Bellingham. He is very good, but he’s getting overrated now. He scored tap ins for Real and people act like he scored one screamer after the other. He definitely is not a 10 and shouldn’t play there, that should be clear after his last performances and the ucl final performance. I watch football for players like Musiala who create magical moments when they have the ball. Bellingham is a workhorse, but Musiala is just a joy to watch.
A goal is a goal whether a screamer or tap in all count the same mate. There is alot of hype.around Bellingham but its to be expected as he is english and immensely talented @@UnknownUser_10
@@ashleymarshall918 I did not say that he is bad or that it’s not about goals. But there is more to football than scoring goals and Musialas play is just more beautiful.
And schmeichel, the danish goal keeper was insane, germany had not just more shots on target BUT GOOD shots, like really good ones, against any other goal keper they would have had 4:0, easily in first half. And on top germany lost 2 points due to var.
Possession means nothing if you don't score. We're complaining because most of us who grew up playing the sport don't want VAR. It was made for robots and has taken so much of the flow away from the sport.
Possession means not everything in football. It is all about what you do with the ball. You can play non creative passing the ball left , right, backwards and don't have a clue to beat the opponents defense. In the meanwhile one turnover and the opponents score
I think the other part of it, being the intention of the player, goes towards whether it's a yellow card or red card or no card, not whether it's a penalty.
@@thedustthatsettlesj9231 The Intention doesnt really matter nowadays. The new Handball rules suck. By the rulebook its a clear penalty without any debate, but I think the rule sucks. the ref has no option though.
We were the better team and rightfully won. Other than the typical envy towards us because of our past success, I don’t get these weird debates. Denmark gave it their all but we also got a goal disallowed for whatever reason. It is what it is.
Concerning “offside”: You just can not “translate” a margin of less than an inch of “offside” into any reasonable time during which the ball moves away from the passer’s foot. Less so with normal tv cameras which record just above 20 frames per second.
1. Füllkrug should be starting over Kai.. He has been wasting too many chances, if it wasn't for the penalty he wouldn't score today.. I don't know why Nagelsmann would have a natural goal scorer sitting on the bench, if he was the one to get all those chances that Kai has been getting, he would already be the leading goal scorer.. 2. Why can't we play the way we played against Scotland with such intensity and aggression? As soon as the opposition gets the ball, we would close them down immediately to regain possession.. We have been looking dull and slow.. And I think we have lost our sharpness in front of goal.. 3. I commend our defense to a certain degree in today's match, especially Rüdiger, he put out all for the team today.. But nevertheless, we are still not yet compact at the back.. And we have Spain next, because they are going to beat Georgia, so we have to sharpen up on both defense and attack, we can't afford to continue playing like this, in fact, we can't play like this against Spain, else we are going to get beaten, it's because Denmark didn't have any cutting edge today.. 4. Why are we accumulating disallowed goals?? 😂😂.. 3 in two matches now.. But seriously though, we really need to find the balance, else we aren't beating Spain.. Yes, we won today, but it wasn't convincing.. Congrats to my team though, but we need to get it right this time around, because we are about to play arguably the best team in the tournament in Spain..
@altafahmad8578 Kai missed many chances, without penalty he woulndn't score any goal. Man of the Match was Rüdiger. Füllkrug for Kai and Germany would be much more dangerous in front and efficient.
@@hotdog9262Germany would have won it regardless. The only contronversy is perhaps the penalty/handball decision. Other than that, every criticsm is unfounded.
@@DominationRotation oliver the ref gave biased decisions towards germany all game, blatantly wrong decisions. its a big reason why they `dominated` the game
@@hotdog9262 It was clearly a penalty, if it was against Germany nobody would debate. Against Switzerland it was also a penalty. The referee gave Switzerland the draw.
Yeah, germany lost 2 goals, and that foul at the start? By all means that didn't looked like fould at all, im from france and if the danish keeper wouldn't have been so good it would be 5:0 easily, and without var 7:1. The penalty was not a var decision, it was set the moment he hit the ball since inside there is a chip to detect touches. The var rescued him frommpotential red if the ref didn't knew exactly if it was intentional
You can not "un-invent" something, VAR has been called for time and time again now its here people hate it, personally I would trust tech more then a Refs Eye. Blame the rules on FIFA they make them VAR supports them. I suspect had England been the team under scrutiny every thing would have been fine. Mark Pugach is a @rick along with the commentator who's last game it was.
The VAR decisions were insane. They also had a meeting for the premier league 2 years ago where they said situations that led to the handball in the match would never lead to a penality. The 1 cm offside - you know how freaking small that offside is - where two players stood beside each other but VAR finds the cm - makes the game ridiculous. This is not how football should be like. It’s not though luck. It’s by design. Lewandowski also had several goals taken away by him having a bigger shoe size. This is not why the offside rule was implemented - to help teams with smaller shoe sizes. It was made preventing defenders from passing to whoever is farthest along. VAR makes football more unfair because it is more exact and precise than a referee ever could be, and in fact Too precise and exact, it’s a bad thing and it sucks.
I think the issue is that VAR was not originally introduced to clear up 50/50 calls, but rather the "howlers" made by the refs. The problem is that the authorities then had the bright idea to extend it to every potential decision in dispute without investing first in the proper video technology to allow this to happen. Also, there is inconsistency with handball between the continent and the UK, so I think the referee's associations have not adequately trained their officials to adjudicate consistently on the laws of the game. There appears to be absence of proper communication between the lawmakers and match officials, particularly in Europe.
Agree on Sané. He was best when he came through at Schalke when he ran across defences without THEM knowing what he was up to, then at City when he became young player of the year. Ever since he got “relegated” (in his mind?) to the Bundesliga he seems only partly interested in football. Has a family now as well as manifold runway related concerns.
Sané actually played really well this game, imho - and I'm usually not a fan of his play at all. He created a lot of good opportunities with very fluid play and helped out a lot on the defensive end.
A handball as we've seen in this game should always be penalized, because A it changed the direction of the ball and maybe the situation might be way more dangerous and B it wasn't exactly a natural posture. He even raised the arm. It wasn't intentional, but he changed the play with his arm. If not in this situation when should we ever punish the involvement of the arm or hand? So I don't agree with these two gentlemen. VAR made every decision crystal clear, but we still love to argue. The off side was off side, the arm changed the trajectory of the ball and the "foul" in the 4th minute was a foul, although not serious. The referee was very strict throughout the whole game so it made sense - unlike the italian referee in the last game against Switzerland who probably wasn't a big fan of Germany or wanted his team to play against them next... Who knows? But I agree with everything you said about Sané. I was nervous when I saw him in the starting lineup.
What are you talking about? The ball barely touched the defenders thumb. So, no the direction didn't change at all. Therefore he didn't affect the game. And he was at the end of his run while he was hit with the ball. Michael Oliver f***ed up. And by the way: don't bother answer my comment because I've turned off incoming messages.
it was 100% handball, players in the penalty box should be keeping their hands closer to their body. everyone KNOWS that. what on earth are these pundits talking about lmao
@@nikosvault pay attention next time watching defenders run with their hands controlled close to their body while they are in the box. If you're running and have hands and arms flying about.. you run the risk of a hand ball. Simple as that.
It’s wild how this is a debate. This reminds me of the Japan game against Spain in the latest World Cup when Japan scored their second goal and the ball was millimeters from being out. This was clear offside goal from Denmark. Penalty was decided because danish defenders hand changed trajectory of the cross from Raum.
Why is steve blaming the ref for the penalty? It was the VAR that contacted him and made him look at it. And it’s not the refs fault, it’s the rules that may need an update, but currently as it stands, it’s a pen by the rules, not the refs nor the var‘s fault
Serbia should have got a penalty for the foul on Mitrovic in the game against England....so what??? What I dislike is if the penalty shooter freezes during the penalty!!
Why are close but correct decisions only discussed controversially when Germany benefits? There were other close VAR decisions where there was no discussion. If England had capitalised on that handball, would we be having the same discussion?
@@UnknownUser_10 Offside is a factual decision and, thanks to the new technology, can be decided quite reliably. Nevertheless, there are discussions as to whether two centimetres are enough to decide on offside. You can discuss whether such a marginal touch of the ball is enough when deciding on handball. However, the rules are the same for everyone and to start such a discussion just because Germany has now benefited from it seems to me to be pure racism.
The teferee was absolutely terrible. Throwing cards around like he has lost his mind and wanted to feel like a little dictator. Denmark deserved someone with more capable.
Tried to replaced Bellingham with Pedri and Gavi like we wouldn't notice 😂.. It's Bellingham that the English media overhype.. Musiala BETTER than him by miles 😂
@@eL--RaLI'm taking pedri over any young player. But you really need to seek therapy for your Bellingham derangement syndrome. "We" = the voices in your head?
@@eL--RaLIm taking pedri over any young player. But please get some help for your Bellingham derangement syndrome. Loser mindset turning evey convo into a Bellingham topic. We = the voices in your head?
I think Germany was the better team of the day, but it was certainly a closer game than a 2-0 would suggest. A 2-1 or 3-1 would have been what i'd expected.
@@vjluarasi1847they had 2 goals removed, and on top they had so many hood goal chances, but schmeichel blocked a öot this game, he is the best keeper I have seen so far i. The euros. This could have easily been an 7-1 humiliation, if we count out the offsides and of denmark wouldn't have had schmeichel
What about the disallowed goal for Germany and the 2 incredibly high percentage chances that Havertz missed ? If the goal counts (which it should have, blocks during free kicks are the normal in modern football) or if Havertz makes one of those 2 chances, then the end result would have been a 3-0 or higher.
It was offside, keeper got defended at the 5th minute goal, penalty harsh but rules hae. Dunno why nothing was done to the German guy floored at the big Havertz miss. Dark yellow in my opinion. Well deserved win Germany. Great effort Denmark.
VAR is making the sport unwatchable. Are picks illegal? Kimmich has every right to essentially set a pick. I don’t know how that’s a foul. On the Denmark goal the player was offside, but wasn’t even in the play at that point. By the time he becomes involved in the play he has reestablished himself in an onside position. On the penalty his arm isn’t in an “unnatural” position at all. Arms swing when you run. Does the VAR official think people run with their arms at their side? To give a penalty for that is a joke. The whole sport is becoming a joke.
I may be wrong about the offside. I need to see it again. I’m not exactly sure where they’re determining him to be in the play. That one was really close. With the naked eye I thought he established himself onside by the time he became involved. I’m also not sure how they call it these days. The rule might have evolved into nonsensical garbage by this point and by the book he was off.
At least know what you are talking about. It was offside. Not for Anderson, but for the player that received the ball. Also it was clearly a penalty if you look at the rules. It’s a handball if ur arms are not next to ur body. Simple as that. There is not even a discussion possible.
Yeah and they forget germany lost 2 goals due to var. And the penalty was not a var decision, the decision was set when he hit the ball since inside there is a chip. Var is there so they decide what card to give, thr intention doesn't matter for the penalty, it matters for the refs decision to what card to give, and it rescued denmark, since it showed it was unintentional, without the var the ref could have given yellow or even red
As much as people praise Rudiger I find him to be really off putting and pathetic. Primarily because he is always clattering into opponents and injuring them. But then he himself pretends like he’s injured to avoid getting carded. He does it all the time at Madrid and he did it twice alone in this match. It’s pathetic and referees need to stop rewarding his antics. Not to mention he constantly gets away with bear hugging opposition forwards and never getting called for it.
@jemiee9493 I hear you there. I’m just tired of referees rewarding his behavior. He most notably did it against De Bruyne when he knocked him out of the game. But then he himself went down like he was injured. He’s been doing it for years and I’m tired of watching him constantly get away with it.
rudiger will never get penalized ever since he made himself the victim against son and the tottenham fans for supposedly being “racist”. he is truly pathetic.
It was not created to have less debates. It was created to make the game more fair. And it has been. In the past, we just accepted mistakes more because you could t change anything about it. Now you can with var.
So you're saying that it wasn't offside?? If it was another team, would you still say that?? So you are telling me ESPN that you have never seen any situation like this where var gave it as offside?? I've seen closer ones than this, even if it's half an inch, it is still offside.. You guys are pathetic.. If I was like you, I would be worried about England and not my team 😂😂.. We had two disallowed goals today, and we could debate about the first one, but we just moved on.. When you lose, you should accept it, because even if you don't, that still can't change the outcome.. We should have scored more than two goals today if Kai was able to finish.. Of course, our performance wasn't convincing, in fact, I don't wish to rewatch the match or the highlights, but the truth is, we won fairly.. So you can say that an offside goal is an onside goal, it still doesn't change the outcome.. And I'm not surprised, because this channel is very contradictory and controversial.. I am yet to see a sensible pundit in presentation 😂😂.. You people are just pathetic and ridiculous..
They were. The danish keeper were just the best this year, germany had so many good shots on target in first 20mins its insane, this could have went like against brazil 2014, easily. It could have easily been 5:0, and without var (according to some its bs) it would have been 7:1, germany lost 2 goals due to var, i dont understand the complains If My team would have been in germanies place I would be going bananas, losing 2 points and then being mocked on the web because the others lost 1, or people not knowing the rules for handball lmao
So goal was disallowed because 1 cm offside, but how EXACT was timing of the pass established. We never get that shown. I'm sure we an move few frames this way or other way. It's clear there's a huge margin for manipulation. Nobody talks about it
We(Denmark) were still in the game when the penalty happened. Germany came out strong but we fended them off and stayed in the game. That penalty just ruined it. It was a good game up until that point. It was a proper fight, and i have no problem losing, it's just such downer and disappointing way to go out. We were in that game giving Germany a run for their money.
@@JollyRoger-kr2iy The first goal forced us to change how we played and open up in the back which is why you got the second goal. Goals changes games. And that penalty is the deciding factor in the game
@@basquat76 true. however, considering the overall game - germany had more chances - so after all they played better and deserved the win. denmark has a striker issue.
@@JollyRoger-kr2iy That's not how football works. We had more chances so we deserved to win. Football is about outsmarting your opponents. Using your strength and protecting your weaknesses. You play the cards you have. And we were still in the game so i'm sorry but you deserved nothing. And by your definition we might as well end the tournament now and give the trophy to Spain because they've played the best football. There is no deserve in football.
@@Lizzi__the english people that created this debate were the english ref and english var in the germany vs denmark match🤣 lets not pretend that only in the uk people complain about var tho but when you send english officials to the euros lets not be surprised that they become the talking point🤣
Japan got a goal vs Spain because the ball touched the line with 1 cm. Germany was out. Lukalu scored a goal and it is annulated because he was offside with his toe. And France got 2 ridicolous penaltys in 2016 and 2018 after the VAR saw that a hand touched a litte bit the ball. So, why talking now about the VAR problem?
Ilost all hope for Sane, he is someone that will never be great, ever. He lacks something crucial for an offensive player: Killer instinct To Kai Havertz: You need to be more clinical, you played a great game, but if you miss your chances like that, it won´t matter.
⚽️ 🦶 var should zoom in on the passer’s foot until it makes contact with the ball - pause - then see where the receiving player is. maybe lots of offsides really aren’t offside
Yeah, greetings from france, I think the real final of the tournament will be spain vs germany, whoever wins will propably win the euros if they don't suddenly get a red card, some importan player gets hurt or they have a bad day.
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“Sane is the Dembele of Germany”
No truer words have been said
@@bo0gi3 We could add Mudryk maybe 🤔
Word. I don’t even understand why he was starting today. Wirtz and Musiala are too good together to be separating them.
BS!! Dembelè is a better Dribbler than him
sane and Rashford are probs related very similar
@@eL--RaLAnd sane is a better player overall
Dembele and Sané should start a company called "Almost Inc." 😂
😆
On point
Don’t forget Nuñez 😂
Can someone come up with an Almost FC team below? I am trying to see something.
@@moxictasculinity I only know the coach will be Fernando Torres 😂
* Germany beats Scotland 5-1: "Scotland were really bad "
*Germany beats Hungary 2-0: "They were lucky not to conceide"
*Germany draw with Switzerland: "They're starting to come back to Earth and see their level"
*Germany beat Denmark 2-0: "VAR was very harsh against Denmark."
Why does there always need to be some asterisk along side their results. At this stage, they're clearly great and Germany Spain could be the game of the tournament.
absolute nonsense
They loved Germanys downfall the last few years. Now they dont want them to be great again so they try to talk them down as much as they can
Football is a game of nuances. In bad faith, they will always find a reason to criticize, no matter what.
At the end of the day germany is a revitalized powerhouse of the game. And obviously people refuse to acknowledge that, because they fear another great opposition and obstacle.
Ironically in a way, it's a sign of respect.
Of course, it's Germany. Lots of people know they're good, but they just can't bring themselves to admit.
@@environm3ntalist549 that made way more sense than your entire existence kiddo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It was OFFSIDE.. Stop trying to create a controversial debate
Nah it wasnt.
@@davidsmithy123how
Shut up
@@davidsmithy123it was, they even drew a line for you.
@@davidsmithy123 if we open the discussion on the offside. Than I want the Schloterbeck goal back. There was no foul, just a regular block.
Goal should have been counted.
If havertz was more clinical in front of goal it would've been a very comfortable win for Germany, overall they deserved to win despite some controversial decisions but they seriously need to think about starting fulkrug as their striker
But that first touch. Me and my brother were so excited when that happened. I hope he can score some more and as a result from play
Havertz is this player we keep waiting to turn up and he never does. It’s time for him to give up his starting position.
As a city fan I was pissed he missed, cuz he scored a very similar goal in the cl final 😖😂
Beside clinical infront of goal, haverts playing well. Perfect penalty, and great positioning. To open the play. Fulkrug cannot do that. Make fulkrug supersub, its already the best decision.
2-0 is pretty comfortable, especially looking at Denmark basically looking non threatening all game except for a spell of 10 minutes pre weather break and when they got a couple corners in a row from which they scored their offside goal.
"We saw Denmark go head - the goal was then disallowed." Klinsmann then basically repeats the phrase. What about the disallowed german goal in the 4th minute?
There's a foul that leads directly to Schlotterback moving to score the goal
@@budigunawan1677 So a foul annuls a goal, but an offside doesn't? I'm not trying to mock you, I actually don't get it.
@@timkonig2470 well it was offside by 2cm if the CG is truthful... players aren't robots and some people feets are better than others.
@@timkonig2470 bigger than others not better sorry
@@budigunawan1677 yeah but a bigger foot allows for more range when striking and also shifts you center of weight more lol. so it´s all fair
French here.
What are we discussing? Denmark lost 1 point due to var, and had an offside, germany lost 2.
And to top it all off, schmeichel was insane this game, germany had like 3 shots directly on target in firsg 20mins, and each one being VERY good.
Im sorry but if denmark wouldn't have played to penalties, they stood no chance this game. The best player from them was Schmeichel, propably the best keeper i have seen so far in the euros.
Im sorry but there were VIDEOS SHOWING, that it eas offside and that andersen hit the ball, the chip inside the ball even marked it. It was just fair.
Var took back 2 of germanies goals, so please, don't cry cause if one goal that the danes lost
Amen man! So true
Thank you from Germany ❤
I really like the French!
@@ClaireEmilia thanksss, Even tho we really have some problems this year, I hope germany wins this years
We're not angry because it was offside, because it was correctly called. But to call a penalty because the ball hits Andersen's thumb from half a meter away is crazy. The ball doesn't change direction or anything. And Denmark was playing even with Germany before they called that penalty and even better several times in the match. But the referee turned the game around and it killed Denmark's energi.
And both of germanys goals were clearly not legal
you clearly did not listen to what they actually said about the handball, what they said was the when a human being runs your arms go out ahead of you, this is a natural position. That is why they said that they agree with the handball being given because according to the rules it is correct but that the rules are wrong.
The only “controversy” (re: whining) comes from people who simply wanted Germany to lose. The big decisions (each team had goals chalked off, and the penalty) were tough but fair.
not a penalty
if this was england, you would be saying they paid the refs.
@@JollyRoger-kr2iy Read the UEFA handball rules. 100% penalty.
I don't like the rule either, but it is a factual decision without any interpretation unlike the first disallowed German goal, that was disallowed due to the refs interpretation.
@@ajeettvcorrect sir
@@ajeettv "touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised"- again for me the player was running and a natural movement - not on purpose.
It was deserved, more possession, much better chances to score. Offside is offside, whether it's 1 mm or 5 meters, if you don't want that, you don't need VAR anymore.
when england had more possession and better chances to score against denmark in the last euros, everyone said they didn’t deserve to win because of one dodgy decision ….
Absolutely spot on ..The media just want to create a controversial debate for storylines
@@11uminescence Then it was just wrong back then, anyone who sees today's victory as undeserved didn't see the game. The 1-0 win for Germany was more of a 50-50 thing and Schlotterbeck's goal would have been given to the refs too
Might aswell just dedicate the win to the #1 in FIFA Ranking. - Dont need to have all of the games then. If the underdog cant be allowed to win. Idiot.
@@11uminescence yeah but germany did score and the VAR was fucked on both sides.
It would have been 4:2 in a normal club game
The controversial debate should be about germanys first goal in 3rd minute
Not really, it was a clear foul by Kimmich
This move is taught to everyone at the age of 14... That's just part of the game and happens every weekend
@@wraynzz3086 body contact have to be two players fighting for the ball, the german who was blocking had zero interest in the ball. did not even look in its direction
@@hotdog9262 he was just defending "his space" and it was a very casual body contact. That was a pretty clear goal 🤣
@@derek4177 you defend your space standing still or fighting for the ball.. any deliberate hard contact outside of this is very clearly against the rules
There’s nothing controversial here though? Denmark were unlucky sure but all the calls were undeniably correct. The offside is marginal but factual, and the handball is pretty clear, well away from his body (albeit only grazed the hand). Germany’s disallowed goal also clear foul by Kimmich once you see the replay. Not sure what there’s to argue about.
So proximity isn't a factor anymore?
@@jakobole In today's game, not really I'm afraid. That would be given as a penalty in any league under the current rules.
@@Kuddochanwell im afraid thats not true, in premier league it wouldnt be called, and thats tje scary Thing, because the same rules should apply in all tournaments
That's the point. They compare Kimmichs clear faul with 0.00000001 cm of offfsite 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Germany Fanboys are insane. FIFA clearly got a deal with Germany. They do everything to let Germany win. Kimmichs also didn't get a card for the faul. Best way to boost a team. Don't give cards
Musiala is something else maann.. Nothing but PURE talent..His ball control, silky dribbling and playmaking skills are something else..The young Magician 🥶🔥🪄
He only plays well against sht teams
@@palatialslumlord4938 then you're totally new to football..You came from EA FC 24
And you’re something else too. That something is 💩
Musiala is a baller but did nothing today except score the breakaway goal. Do you even watch?
@@palatialslumlord4938 What a cl*wn! He's MUCH better than Bellingham..
Bellingham is the one who plays against easy opponents
The Germans scored the first goal, not the Danes! Not giving Schlotterbeck's goal was the first wrong decision and the Danes benefited from it.
kimmich attacked a danish defender, gundogan blocked the goalkeeper...there is no debate about that decision. I love Germany but this was a disgrace and the referee is to blame
I wouldnt even say the decision was nessesarily wrong, but the calls for the germans, werent wrong as well imo. All fair :)
@@RienClaassen You are allowed to block a path and you also are allowed to go shoulder on shoulder.
@@chrisb2942 you can`t actively block a player if you are not fighting for the ball..also close to the ball. the blocking german was not close to the ball and did not even look in the direction of it^^
@@hotdog9262 you don't have to go out of the way either, do you?
Germany would be top tier if Havertz was a good striker and Sane wasnt so selfish with the ball. The lad is the most annoying german player to watch by far.
He is also has no ability w his right foot. Makes him easy to defend
Havertz gets his head often first to the ball and then cannot place it properly. Not much better with his feet. Sane instead of Wirtz was a disgrace, worst German player on the pitch, pretty much useless, whiny, drops to the ground, poor body language and effort. He must have indicting knowledge from Nagelsmann's time at Bayern.
Costa Rica would be world class if they had Messi, Ronaldo, Maldini, Dani Alves, Cafu, Busquets, Iniesta, Xavi, Modric, Kroos, Suarez, Robben, Ribery, Philip Lahm, Marcelo, Nesta and Staam 😂👍
Sadly I agree. Bayern need to trade him.
Haverts doing just fine, great linkup play perfect penalty.. shut up
I can understand VAR debates about fouls because that line is fluid, but it has quite literally eliminated all room for debate about the questions wether a hand had contact or wether someone was offside because it's unchangeable facts...
You mean the line is fluid?
@@ulical yes, corrected the typo
But the debate is, yes the line shows offside but the angle of the pass is not visible for people to see when the ball is kicked... So in this case there can be a level of manipulation. I am not saying this was but you see where people can come up with issues with the line if the whole picture is not show and they are showing just one angle...
This is not about VAR. This is about handball
no it isn't @holyflick. The offside is 1 cm off - which is not scientific. It is instead about frames and which milisecond you stop a frame at - when calling the offside. VAR is therefore not accurate down to 1 cm. So the goal should have stood.
VAR always makes the correct call when it favors your team. If it does not favor your team, then VAR sucks. With all that said, Denmark did not do enough to win the game, deserved for Germany. Sané sucks.
If you have the technology to measure millimeters, you have to make decisions based on that. You can not make decisions by feel anymore, because that won't be fair.
Same with the handball. The only fair way is the strict enforcement of the rules. When you start o make exception based on intention etc. you get less fair because the next scene you will have a different ruling.
Romelu lukaku had 3 goals disallowed. Germany hag 1 vs scotland and 1 here. Many goals were disallowed for 1 micromillimeter offside. Nobody complained.
Germany deserved to win this match.
Idk if you watched, but germany had 2 disallowed goals just this match, and on top way more and better shots on target. The people who really complain should rethink watching this sport, the rules are older then all the players today, and var just makes sure the rules will not be broken by people.
@@Ikuya.miraculous Exactly. Im just waiting people wanting to cancel Musiala's goal as he lifted pedal for a second and confused Schmeichel, thus it was illegal moved.
Is anyone seriously making the argument that Denmark got robbed....pleeeeease
Yes. Probably several million Danish citizens. And by the way: Michael Oliver changed this game into a farce. Some people are probably willing to call this scandalous. Not me though. Just saying.
@@AlecRedfield1037
He already robbed germanys first goal because of nothing.
It felt like against switzerland.
As a German I’ll admit Oliver is one of europes worst refs. Many bad decisions this game. The VAR ones were clear…
The ref was not good, but Germany was just better…
@@DrEcKiGeRDaN88 germanys early disallowed goal was 100% correct
@@theodorceaster3515 agreed 👍
There is zero debate! I wouldn't give the penalty, cause I don't like the rule, but it is in the book! Greetings from germany and at the end we won, cause we where better even we missed a lot of chances! Sané is pure trash not trying to do anything and was just jogging his nice hair around! I don't ever want to see him again in this tournament because we need 11 Players who are fighting or even trying to play football against the Spaniards!
Yep Sane sadly does not work in the NT, Havertz also was crazy inconsequential infront of goal today. I think I counted 4 clear 100% chances for him with lots of time and acres of space and he missed all of that. You might say he was the best defender of Denmark today, by clearing away so many big chances for Germany...
As a Bayern fan I can confirm: Sane is rubbish...I don't understand how Nagelsmann or any coach can't see it.
@@klaussajons sanes decision making is like an amateur
Thank god you are not a referee then. I don't like the current handball rule either, but as a ref you are supposed to enforce the rules, whether you like them or not.
Denmark was atrocious the whole tournament: has not won a single game and scored only 2 goals in 4 games. Now suddenly they thought they deserved to go forward instead of Germany? Regardless of the refereeing, Germany was better than Denmark in all departments.
football don't work like that. var rruined this game. Past time they looked into how offside and handballs like that are referee'ed. cause this is atrocious.
You all seem to forget that the VAR disallowed germanys first goal after 4 minutes. How tf do you think the game will go if germanys ahead after 4 minutes
Jesus get over it
Whahhaha germany only started playing better after they could counter after the first goal. They were on the backfoot after the opening 20. The goal in the 4th minute: smeichel would have easily got it if gundo doesnt block the goalkeeper from offside position. For me germant have definitely lost their favourite status xD
Denmark was decent enough until Manchester United had to kick a ball.
that's not the argument. The Danes scored a goal and received an unnecessary penalty. Germany is a better team but hey, the first two worlds championships they won, they won from better teams.
The better team won the game.
maybe. not how football works though
@@hotdog9262 football works by rules. All the rules were applied and all the facts lay out there. So what is your excuse?
@@derek4177 your excuse is you don`t know the game that well.. your other comment(the german body blocking) reveal that nicely. sure blocking with no or little interest in the ball happens quite often, but this one was really clear cut. he doesn`t look in the direction of the ball
take all the other decisions most of the game that went to germanys advantage and oliver handed them the win on a platter
@@hotdog9262 I dont need an excuse because I am happy with the result and its fair. So again, you make zero sense.
I played the game myself, apparently you have never been on a football pitch LOL.
Blocking like that is very very common and normal, actually we even trained that haha.
And my statement was just related to the game and the facts.
So what are you crying about now, I dont get it? The goal was not given anyway, so what is your point?
VAR was created so solve all these problems alright and aometimes they make controversies but also sometimes media and fans create their own false controversies just to have conversations and blamegame when VAR makes the right call
It became a bigger problem ever since argentina won the world cup, jealousy at its best😂
Nah. It was wrong.
I don't think VAR was designed to focus on handballs. It's a negative side effect to it. A random ball graces a players hand becomes the deciding factor in a game. Is there anything more unsatisfying then that? Does it even feel like a real win?
No, VAR was introduced to the game, solely with the purpose of keeping the big, cash cow teams in tournaments.
@@davidsmithy123how so?
For me, all decisions made sense and were made up to UEFA standards. In the end, Germany had two goals disallowed, and Denmark got the offside and the penalty against them, all rightfully though. So it was balanced and the goal of Musiala made the difference. Biggest referee question mark would be not giving yellow and free kick for the foul from behind on Sané at the penalty semicircle.
"They need to check if he really did that on purpose" - What a absolute crazy statement. Lets then implement therapy-sessions for red card fouls, because he didnt do it on purpose. Maybe he had a bad childhood or was to fast so he broke the other guys foot by accident.
I think people spend too much time whining whenever a team wins a game and gets a result that they didn’t deserve purely because of the ref. Germany vs Denmark, we all know what happened as in the game today as in the 1st half, the game was stopped for a couple of minutes due to lightning and a thunderstorm in the stadium as the refs felt as if it wasn’t the safest conditions for the players to play in. Anyways at the start of the 2nd half, Denmark had a disallowed goal which was the right decision from the ref because as you can see from the replay, their player was offside and this is something that cannot be argued against and in the box when they were defending, it was an obvious penalty because you can’t be sticking your hand up in the wrong area of the pitch.
At the end of the day, it’s easy for people to not give Germany the credit that they deserve for winning 2-0 because there were some decisions that went in their way, this is part of football and just sports in general nobody can change the way a ref officiates a game because decisions have to be made and you shouldn’t spend 24/7 crying about it. Regardless of what people think of the refs, Germany went about their business and for the most part of the game they were the better team and of course there’s some weaknesses that Julian Nagelsmann needs to address because they’ll get punished by the better teams in the latter stages of the tournament, they have been an impressive team and you wouldn’t be shocked if they go on to win the EUROs because they’ve shown that there are periods where they don’t have to be great as they’re able to do enough to get the job done in the end and that’s all that matters in a major tournament.
Amen! ❤
Sure they will be cracked by Spain's sharply incisive neat passing posession-inspired vision that boasts fluid cyles of sustainable interchanging position rhythm being lightened by relentless change of combination tempo and dynamic pace of trandition into penetration in reliace of their two gifted wingers showing a direct feature in attack
@@dynasty201
Actually no.
To break germany, you have to play like Switzerland or Denmark. Park the bus.
The dynamics will be diffrent when germany and spain meet.
They going to play open. And you should not play like that against germany otherwise you are going to be the one who is getting crushed.
Its a 50/50.
@@dynasty201Spain has done it so far against bang average teams: Albania (huge underdog), Italy (do I have to say anything😂😂😂) and an aging Croatia, it remains to be seen how they will perform against very good sides
@@dynasty201 lmfaoooo I swear you just clicking the next word on your keyboard or something 🤣🤣🤣 all big important words but it doesn’t make sense at all 😂😂 how do you do it ?? I looked at your other comments and I can’t tell if you’re trolling or what
All calls were right in this game. I don’t know why there is a debate.
German header should've counted, that call was super soft.
for me it was not a penalty
if this was england, you would be saying they paid the refs.
@@11uminescenceYeah cause the whole world hates england, mate
They simply wanted Germany to loose, that’s it. It‘s the typical envy towards us because of our past success.
Klinsmann, GERMANY scored the first disallowed goal after 5 mins. They were limited with Sane on the right, they played better against Switzerland, Wirtz needs to come back in andreich and Gundogan were below standard this game as well.
Havertz doesn’t pass the eye test but gets full marks for his effectiveness in confusing defences.
The problem is not VAR. The problem is the way the rules are written.
People who deem Havertz's performance today as disappointing really need to give their understanding of football a check.
Either you play him wide or bench him because the guy isn't a clinical finisher....the chances he got and continuously gets and fails to tuck them away....??😢😢😢😢germany will pay a huge price for it should they come across more resolute teams and hit them on counters
@@orapelengtoni3099 Apart from being not clinical (which is a big deal tbf), he was excellent vs denmark.
Yes he was,esp with his movements but it's doing what matters most and at a time when it's needed most...am not bashing him but germany needs a striker similar to haaland or else they will be eliminated just as italy
People pulling the Italy comparison card? 🤣🤣😂
You skipped England/France/Belguim as terrible offensive performance before you can mention germany.
Also you’re basically insulting everyone by comparing anyone’s offensive with Italy’s idea less non existent offensive that couldn’t even work for goal opportunities to fail 😂🤣
@@LazyRecap32 Wrong comment
It's a handball because the hand helps you and diverts the ball to a place it wouldn't be if the hand wasn't there. Whether you do it deliberately or not, it's a handball because your hand helps you.
With the arm up you increase the surface area that defends the ball. How’s that penalty debatable?
Like little kids, once they don't like something it's impossible to get them to change their minds, you just need to wait until they grow up. VAR is great, get over it, or go back to riding horses instead of using cars. Anderson could've ran faster and avoided being in a position where he needs to take that pose, he didn't get a card because it was unintentional. Period.
They are whiny cunts
VAR was created to reduce the amount of mistakes made by refs and it’s doing that. How about the offside the rule has always been there, we just didn’t have the technology that allowed us to see the closer calls. This is not about VAR, it’s about the rule in itself. You can’t blame VAR officials for doing their job, there is no “minimum margin” required for an offside to be called, even if it’s half an inch it’s an offside
first german goal should have stood ! The handball penalty should not given. .
Overall Germany was better and deserved the win. Look at the stats.
It was obstruction. He literally blocked a player without looking at the ball so the other guy could go free and head it in which is what happened. If you think that should be allowed then corners are gonna be very different from now on. Defending is gonna be very different from now on.
@@basquat76lil bro . Blocking is not a foul
@@jasonburrell4903 You should probably read up on the rules buddy.
@@jasonburrell4903 In American football,yes......
The Danish keeper was also obstructed from challenging for the ball in the air
Anyone who even waste their breath by comparing Bellingham to Musiala is disrespecting football itself.. Musiala WAY better
Why is it that anytime Musiala does anything the first thing certain people think about is Bellingham?
You guys are already worse than "Pendu and Pessi" losers.
Please get out of your house.
Why is it anytime Musiala does something, the first thing some people think about is Bellingham?
You guys are worse than "Pessi/Penaldo" losers.
Please get out of your house.
Pr is strong with Bellingham. Don’t get me wrong, I like Bellingham. He is very good, but he’s getting overrated now. He scored tap ins for Real and people act like he scored one screamer after the other. He definitely is not a 10 and shouldn’t play there, that should be clear after his last performances and the ucl final performance. I watch football for players like Musiala who create magical moments when they have the ball. Bellingham is a workhorse, but Musiala is just a joy to watch.
A goal is a goal whether a screamer or tap in all count the same mate. There is alot of hype.around Bellingham but its to be expected as he is english and immensely talented @@UnknownUser_10
@@ashleymarshall918 I did not say that he is bad or that it’s not about goals. But there is more to football than scoring goals and Musialas play is just more beautiful.
As an American, do soccer people look at stats and see Germany shot a lot more or had more possession? What’s the problem?
And schmeichel, the danish goal keeper was insane, germany had not just more shots on target BUT GOOD shots, like really good ones, against any other goal keper they would have had 4:0, easily in first half. And on top germany lost 2 points due to var.
Possession means nothing if you don't score. We're complaining because most of us who grew up playing the sport don't want VAR. It was made for robots and has taken so much of the flow away from the sport.
@@Michael-jh9fd sorry but var saved denmark from 4:1 plus maybe even mote since Hand all is allways pen, the var saved anderson from potential red.
Most complaints and controversies stem from blatant bias. People are not objective when evaluating matches.
It's quite ridiculous.
Possession means not everything in football. It is all about what you do with the ball. You can play non creative passing the ball left , right, backwards and don't have a clue to beat the opponents defense. In the meanwhile one turnover and the opponents score
So ball to the hand in the box was always a penalty but now they have to factor in that players are human?!
I think the other part of it, being the intention of the player, goes towards whether it's a yellow card or red card or no card, not whether it's a penalty.
@@thedustthatsettlesj9231 The Intention doesnt really matter nowadays. The new Handball rules suck. By the rulebook its a clear penalty without any debate, but I think the rule sucks. the ref has no option though.
We were the better team and rightfully won. Other than the typical envy towards us because of our past success, I don’t get these weird debates. Denmark gave it their all but we also got a goal disallowed for whatever reason. It is what it is.
Concerning “offside”: You just can not “translate” a margin of less than an inch of “offside” into any reasonable time during which the ball moves away from the passer’s foot. Less so with normal tv cameras which record just above 20 frames per second.
Schlotterbeck scored the first disallowed goal in this game 😮
Completely correct about Sané, he maybe believes he's an exceptional Talent.
And he was a few years ago but he hasn't matured beyond that.
It's his fault to not put his hands behind like good defenders
You guys say they scored the first goal when in fact Germany did 😅
1. Füllkrug should be starting over Kai.. He has been wasting too many chances, if it wasn't for the penalty he wouldn't score today.. I don't know why Nagelsmann would have a natural goal scorer sitting on the bench, if he was the one to get all those chances that Kai has been getting, he would already be the leading goal scorer..
2. Why can't we play the way we played against Scotland with such intensity and aggression? As soon as the opposition gets the ball, we would close them down immediately to regain possession.. We have been looking dull and slow.. And I think we have lost our sharpness in front of goal..
3. I commend our defense to a certain degree in today's match, especially Rüdiger, he put out all for the team today.. But nevertheless, we are still not yet compact at the back.. And we have Spain next, because they are going to beat Georgia, so we have to sharpen up on both defense and attack, we can't afford to continue playing like this, in fact, we can't play like this against Spain, else we are going to get beaten, it's because Denmark didn't have any cutting edge today..
4. Why are we accumulating disallowed goals?? 😂😂.. 3 in two matches now.. But seriously though, we really need to find the balance, else we aren't beating Spain.. Yes, we won today, but it wasn't convincing.. Congrats to my team though, but we need to get it right this time around, because we are about to play arguably the best team in the tournament in Spain..
@altafahmad8578 Kai missed many chances, without penalty he woulndn't score any goal. Man of the Match was Rüdiger. Füllkrug for Kai and Germany would be much more dangerous in front and efficient.
Without VAR Germany would have won 4:1
Germany dominated this game it wasn’t even close.
I don`t agree and in any event its irrelevant. ref definitely handed germany the win
@@hotdog9262Germany would have won it regardless. The only contronversy is perhaps the penalty/handball decision.
Other than that, every criticsm is unfounded.
@@DominationRotation oliver the ref gave biased decisions towards germany all game, blatantly wrong decisions. its a big reason why they `dominated` the game
@@hotdog9262 It was clearly a penalty, if it was against Germany nobody would debate. Against Switzerland it was also a penalty. The referee gave Switzerland the draw.
@@hotdog9262 Denmark was lucky to hold the 0:0 after 20 minutes. Easily it could be 0:2.
Calling Sane Dembele is actually so disrespectful. Sane doesn’t deserve that slander
Game was incredibly one sided.
The stats speak for themselves.
They also got a disallowed goal that was a lot more sus than actual offsides
Yeah, germany lost 2 goals, and that foul at the start? By all means that didn't looked like fould at all, im from france and if the danish keeper wouldn't have been so good it would be 5:0 easily, and without var 7:1. The penalty was not a var decision, it was set the moment he hit the ball since inside there is a chip to detect touches. The var rescued him frommpotential red if the ref didn't knew exactly if it was intentional
Wrong. VAR was created to make games more fair. And that it does.
You can not "un-invent" something, VAR has been called for time and time again now its here people hate it, personally I would trust tech more then a Refs Eye.
Blame the rules on FIFA they make them VAR supports them.
I suspect had England been the team under scrutiny every thing would have been fine.
Mark Pugach is a @rick along with the commentator who's last game it was.
The VAR decisions were insane. They also had a meeting for the premier league 2 years ago where they said situations that led to the handball in the match would never lead to a penality. The 1 cm offside - you know how freaking small that offside is - where two players stood beside each other but VAR finds the cm - makes the game ridiculous. This is not how football should be like. It’s not though luck. It’s by design. Lewandowski also had several goals taken away by him having a bigger shoe size. This is not why the offside rule was implemented - to help teams with smaller shoe sizes. It was made preventing defenders from passing to whoever is farthest along. VAR makes football more unfair because it is more exact and precise than a referee ever could be, and in fact Too precise and exact, it’s a bad thing and it sucks.
If anything it makes football to fair. Germanys late disallowed goal was also a very close offside decision. There is no bias there
Why stress over what technology clears all doubts about? Stop the agenda!
I think the issue is that VAR was not originally introduced to clear up 50/50 calls, but rather the "howlers" made by the refs. The problem is that the authorities then had the bright idea to extend it to every potential decision in dispute without investing first in the proper video technology to allow this to happen. Also, there is inconsistency with handball between the continent and the UK, so I think the referee's associations have not adequately trained their officials to adjudicate consistently on the laws of the game. There appears to be absence of proper communication between the lawmakers and match officials, particularly in Europe.
Agree on Sané. He was best when he came through at Schalke when he ran across defences without THEM knowing what he was up to, then at City when he became young player of the year.
Ever since he got “relegated” (in his mind?) to the Bundesliga he seems only partly interested in football. Has a family now as well as manifold runway related concerns.
Sané actually played really well this game, imho - and I'm usually not a fan of his play at all. He created a lot of good opportunities with very fluid play and helped out a lot on the defensive end.
This is not a VAR discussion. I don't know why it's being framed as such. It's aobut the rules of handball.
right! i m not an fan of VAR overall but tonight is a VAR discussion funny af
Exactly :) One could argue that the new rules for Handball are stupid, but the referee had no chance but to give the penalty by the new rules.
A handball as we've seen in this game should always be penalized, because A it changed the direction of the ball and maybe the situation might be way more dangerous and B it wasn't exactly a natural posture. He even raised the arm. It wasn't intentional, but he changed the play with his arm. If not in this situation when should we ever punish the involvement of the arm or hand? So I don't agree with these two gentlemen. VAR made every decision crystal clear, but we still love to argue. The off side was off side, the arm changed the trajectory of the ball and the "foul" in the 4th minute was a foul, although not serious. The referee was very strict throughout the whole game so it made sense - unlike the italian referee in the last game against Switzerland who probably wasn't a big fan of Germany or wanted his team to play against them next... Who knows?
But I agree with everything you said about Sané. I was nervous when I saw him in the starting lineup.
What are you talking about? The ball barely touched the defenders thumb. So, no the direction didn't change at all. Therefore he didn't affect the game. And he was at the end of his run while he was hit with the ball. Michael Oliver f***ed up. And by the way: don't bother answer my comment because I've turned off incoming messages.
it was 100% handball, players in the penalty box should be keeping their hands closer to their body. everyone KNOWS that. what on earth are these pundits talking about lmao
"players in the penalty box should be keeping their hands closer to their body."
Why? Do you know how running works?
@@nikosvault pay attention next time watching defenders run with their hands controlled close to their body while they are in the box. If you're running and have hands and arms flying about.. you run the risk of a hand ball. Simple as that.
It’s wild how this is a debate. This reminds me of the Japan game against Spain in the latest World Cup when Japan scored their second goal and the ball was millimeters from being out. This was clear offside goal from Denmark. Penalty was decided because danish defenders hand changed trajectory of the cross from Raum.
Why is steve blaming the ref for the penalty? It was the VAR that contacted him and made him look at it. And it’s not the refs fault, it’s the rules that may need an update, but currently as it stands, it’s a pen by the rules, not the refs nor the var‘s fault
Serbia should have got a penalty for the foul on Mitrovic in the game against England....so what???
What I dislike is if the penalty shooter freezes during the penalty!!
Only time there are debates is when the referees are English.
TYPICAL MICHAEL OLIVER THE MOST RUBBISH REF IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE IS IN THE EUROS.. THIS VAR IS USELESS
Naah the one from germany against switzerland was italian and he for sure got a new bankaccount in switzerland😂😂😂
Why are close but correct decisions only discussed controversially when Germany benefits? There were other close VAR decisions where there was no discussion.
If England had capitalised on that handball, would we be having the same discussion?
I really wonder how people think that offside decision was wrong. Like how. We can discuss everything, the penalty, ok, but why the offside decision??
@@UnknownUser_10 Offside is a factual decision and, thanks to the new technology, can be decided quite reliably. Nevertheless, there are discussions as to whether two centimetres are enough to decide on offside.
You can discuss whether such a marginal touch of the ball is enough when deciding on handball. However, the rules are the same for everyone and to start such a discussion just because Germany has now benefited from it seems to me to be pure racism.
The rules were applied correctly I don’t know why pundits are talking about it. Funny 😄
The teferee was absolutely terrible. Throwing cards around like he has lost his mind and wanted to feel like a little dictator. Denmark deserved someone with more capable.
Can’t believe we compared Musiala with Pedri and Gavi
I'm a huge fan of Musiala but he's not above Pedri (at his best)
They're on par BUT both are better than Bellingham by miles
Tried to replaced Bellingham with Pedri and Gavi like we wouldn't notice 😂.. It's Bellingham that the English media overhype.. Musiala BETTER than him by miles 😂
Pedri is every bit as good imo. Just has been injury issues. Musiala was just ok today. He just happened to score a breakaway goal.
@@eL--RaLI'm taking pedri over any young player. But you really need to seek therapy for your Bellingham derangement syndrome.
"We" = the voices in your head?
@@eL--RaLIm taking pedri over any young player. But please get some help for your Bellingham derangement syndrome. Loser mindset turning evey convo into a Bellingham topic.
We = the voices in your head?
Clear offside, Clear handball!
Dembele of Germany 😂😂😂😂
Whether its half a mm offside its offside period 😂thats the whole point of VAR 😂
I think Germany was the better team of the day, but it was certainly a closer game than a 2-0 would suggest. A 2-1 or 3-1 would have been what i'd expected.
Germany should have scored 5 goals honestly, the game was seriously not close at all.
@@vjluarasi1847they had 2 goals removed, and on top they had so many hood goal chances, but schmeichel blocked a öot this game, he is the best keeper I have seen so far i. The euros. This could have easily been an 7-1 humiliation, if we count out the offsides and of denmark wouldn't have had schmeichel
@@vjluarasi1847 And Denmark Should have scored 2 or 3 Goals and Germany Probably shouldn't have had a Penalty. So alright 4-3
What about the disallowed goal for Germany and the 2 incredibly high percentage chances that Havertz missed ? If the goal counts (which it should have, blocks during free kicks are the normal in modern football) or if Havertz makes one of those 2 chances, then the end result would have been a 3-0 or higher.
@@Nr4747
And you don't think the Chance Neyer saved from Højlund should be mentioned then?
Replay showed Andersen lifting his arm as the ball was kicked. That's what made it PK for me.
The fact that VAR isn't perfect doesn't mean it isn't better than we had before.
it is.
Always great to see a british and a french guy talking about a german match.
Musiala>> foden, Palmer, Gordon, saka.
Foden managed to score against Madrid unlike the other 4 here
@gigii9419 ok Musiala can score against Denmark but Foden can't. Musiala has more goals in this tournament than the English team.
It was offside, keeper got defended at the 5th minute goal, penalty harsh but rules hae. Dunno why nothing was done to the German guy floored at the big Havertz miss. Dark yellow in my opinion. Well deserved win Germany. Great effort Denmark.
VAR is making the sport unwatchable. Are picks illegal? Kimmich has every right to essentially set a pick. I don’t know how that’s a foul. On the Denmark goal the player was offside, but wasn’t even in the play at that point. By the time he becomes involved in the play he has reestablished himself in an onside position. On the penalty his arm isn’t in an “unnatural” position at all. Arms swing when you run. Does the VAR official think people run with their arms at their side? To give a penalty for that is a joke. The whole sport is becoming a joke.
I may be wrong about the offside. I need to see it again. I’m not exactly sure where they’re determining him to be in the play. That one was really close. With the naked eye I thought he established himself onside by the time he became involved. I’m also not sure how they call it these days. The rule might have evolved into nonsensical garbage by this point and by the book he was off.
@@ericpendleton6474That's why it's said," half knowledge is very dangerous"...the goalscorer was not offside,but the other one was....
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It was handball.
Read the rules..
Blatant picks are illegal. You're using a basketball term for football
At least know what you are talking about. It was offside. Not for Anderson, but for the player that received the ball. Also it was clearly a penalty if you look at the rules. It’s a handball if ur arms are not next to ur body. Simple as that. There is not even a discussion possible.
It really wasn’t closer man… Denmark was good but especially the first half, Schmeichel saved another two or three goals
Yeah and they forget germany lost 2 goals due to var. And the penalty was not a var decision, the decision was set when he hit the ball since inside there is a chip. Var is there so they decide what card to give, thr intention doesn't matter for the penalty, it matters for the refs decision to what card to give, and it rescued denmark, since it showed it was unintentional, without the var the ref could have given yellow or even red
As much as people praise Rudiger I find him to be really off putting and pathetic. Primarily because he is always clattering into opponents and injuring them. But then he himself pretends like he’s injured to avoid getting carded. He does it all the time at Madrid and he did it twice alone in this match. It’s pathetic and referees need to stop rewarding his antics. Not to mention he constantly gets away with bear hugging opposition forwards and never getting called for it.
Rüdiger is the german Pepe in a light version 😂
@jemiee9493
I hear you there. I’m just tired of referees rewarding his behavior. He most notably did it against De Bruyne when he knocked him out of the game. But then he himself went down like he was injured. He’s been doing it for years and I’m tired of watching him constantly get away with it.
rudiger will never get penalized ever since he made himself the victim against son and the tottenham fans for supposedly being “racist”. he is truly pathetic.
I agree with all the comments in this thread and wish more people shone a light on rudigers behaviour. It's disgraceful
It was not created to have less debates. It was created to make the game more fair. And it has been. In the past, we just accepted mistakes more because you could t change anything about it. Now you can with var.
So you're saying that it wasn't offside?? If it was another team, would you still say that?? So you are telling me ESPN that you have never seen any situation like this where var gave it as offside?? I've seen closer ones than this, even if it's half an inch, it is still offside.. You guys are pathetic.. If I was like you, I would be worried about England and not my team 😂😂.. We had two disallowed goals today, and we could debate about the first one, but we just moved on.. When you lose, you should accept it, because even if you don't, that still can't change the outcome.. We should have scored more than two goals today if Kai was able to finish.. Of course, our performance wasn't convincing, in fact, I don't wish to rewatch the match or the highlights, but the truth is, we won fairly.. So you can say that an offside goal is an onside goal, it still doesn't change the outcome.. And I'm not surprised, because this channel is very contradictory and controversial.. I am yet to see a sensible pundit in presentation 😂😂.. You people are just pathetic and ridiculous..
The ones you're complaining about are as English as you. The channel is from the USA as well, you're completely wrong and barking at the wrong tree.
Combination of Dortmund, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Leverkusen, Munchen players made this special.
NO Herr Klinsmann
Denmark did NOT score the first goal
I don't know if its just my eyes but German were super fantastic and i feel like they are favorites
They were. The danish keeper were just the best this year, germany had so many good shots on target in first 20mins its insane, this could have went like against brazil 2014, easily. It could have easily been 5:0, and without var (according to some its bs) it would have been 7:1, germany lost 2 goals due to var, i dont understand the complains
If My team would have been in germanies place I would be going bananas, losing 2 points and then being mocked on the web because the others lost 1, or people not knowing the rules for handball lmao
There are nothing to debate it was close but offside, this pseudo Journalist who have no clue about football
So goal was disallowed because 1 cm offside, but how EXACT was timing of the pass established. We never get that shown. I'm sure we an move few frames this way or other way. It's clear there's a huge margin for manipulation. Nobody talks about it
There is a sensor in the ball which recognizes the touch.
We(Denmark) were still in the game when the penalty happened. Germany came out strong but we fended them off and stayed in the game. That penalty just ruined it. It was a good game up until that point. It was a proper fight, and i have no problem losing, it's just such downer and disappointing way to go out. We were in that game giving Germany a run for their money.
i agree - the penalty was tough - for me not on purpose / unnatural position - the goal was offside - so 1-0 ... well fought
@@JollyRoger-kr2iy The first goal forced us to change how we played and open up in the back which is why you got the second goal. Goals changes games. And that penalty is the deciding factor in the game
@@basquat76 true. however, considering the overall game - germany had more chances - so after all they played better and deserved the win. denmark has a striker issue.
@@JollyRoger-kr2iy That's not how football works. We had more chances so we deserved to win. Football is about outsmarting your opponents. Using your strength and protecting your weaknesses. You play the cards you have. And we were still in the game so i'm sorry but you deserved nothing. And by your definition we might as well end the tournament now and give the trophy to Spain because they've played the best football. There is no deserve in football.
Denmark could have given Germany a tough match..Sorry bud
This game showed why Havertz gets a start. Did everything but score in open play. Nice penalty.
People (English people) just love to complain 😂
I see one Scottish, one French and one German. Where is the English?
@@Lizzi__English media? Scripted for them to complain for storylines
@@Lizzi__the english people that created this debate were the english ref and english var in the germany vs denmark match🤣 lets not pretend that only in the uk people complain about var tho but when you send english officials to the euros lets not be surprised that they become the talking point🤣
@@simonoliver8576????
@@Lizzi__ ??
Japan got a goal vs Spain because the ball touched the line with 1 cm. Germany was out. Lukalu scored a goal and it is annulated because he was offside with his toe. And France got 2 ridicolous penaltys in 2016 and 2018 after the VAR saw that a hand touched a litte bit the ball. So, why talking now about the VAR problem?
There was no VAR in 2016 though.
Sane is focused on his on field modelling ambition. Bro has smoothness on his hair than his feet finishing as a foorballer 😂😂😂
Deserved win could be 5 or more if Havertz is not blind
We would say "ball to hand" as against a 'handball'. Now ball to hand is VARed as "handball "
Ilost all hope for Sane, he is someone that will never be great, ever.
He lacks something crucial for an offensive player: Killer instinct
To Kai Havertz: You need to be more clinical, you played a great game, but if you miss your chances like that, it won´t matter.
⚽️ 🦶 var should zoom in on the passer’s foot until it makes contact with the ball - pause - then see where the receiving player is. maybe lots of offsides really aren’t offside
Clear penalty!
Everyone saw the handball .
If VAR persists in the current form, the ideal defender will have four legs and no arms
It was a good game from both Teams. Dont discussue to much… fair and nice to Watch 👍🙂
No VAR and the ref did, not Germany
You hate Lewandowski's penalty, and here you celebrate a goal where the shooter stopped even more clearly than Lewandowski.
Wow Frank in the studio again 😂😂
Finally we get our revenge chance on Spain for 2008 and 2010. Germany vs Spain is going to be fire
Yeah, greetings from france, I think the real final of the tournament will be spain vs germany, whoever wins will propably win the euros if they don't suddenly get a red card, some importan player gets hurt or they have a bad day.