Trump and the Return of Fascism? | The Coffee Klatch with Robert Reich
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Friends,
We decided to do another deep dive today - this one on Trumpism and fascism.
With the election less than five months away, and Trump escalating his fascist rhetoric and signaling his intent to use federal troops to round up undocumented people inside the United States and put them in camps, we felt it important to show the close parallels between Trumpism and neo-fascism.
Please pull up a chair, grab a cuppa, and, if so inclined, take our poll.
In our second video on the rise of MAGA fascism, I laid out the specific steps Trump is poised to take to transform America into a fascist "unified Reich." ruclips.net/video/WSxJRIiCNs8/видео.htmlsi=OkOCMAthwV8iQOM8
the simplest description of fascism is dictatorial rule - such is not possible in your country as long as there are checks and balances and separation of powers and the other safeguards in your flimsy, paper Constitution.
@@rd264 I see that you're spamming. But if you think your statement is worth repeating, then this is too: *_if those checks, balances, separations, and safeguards are not rigorously enforced, then it won't matter if they were inscribed on stone tablets by the index finger of God himself._*
Thank you professor Reich your work is invaluable. I must speak up to you about legitimate comments being unjustly moderated. I know you don't control that but it needs some attention. It has become a alarming issue for far too many people that when we use certain words like the topic of this video our comments disappear. I don't even know if this reply to you will post.
@@rd264do yourself a favor and don't oversimplify it. See the 14 characteristics of it and broaden your knowledge. You're going to need it
Thank you Professor Reich! Keep up the good work!! You are an inspiration to many, many people, believe me!!
I'm from the Netherlands. Around 1960 I did watch the excellent weekly German documentary about the development of the Nazis in Germany from 1918 till 1945. Living at 10 km of the German border, we did receive German TV Transmitters. What I see now in the USA is frightning close to what I learned from the documentary in 1960.
Agreed💯
Just think America was running its own brand of fascism ( white supremacy) while fighting fascism in Europe. Now how hypocritical is that?
The Dutch Masters were Fascists too.
Great points...and where is the positive?
@@GlennMiller-qv9tx Glenn Miller is a fascist too.
When fascism comes to America it will come wrapped in a flag carrying a cross," Sinclair Lewis
And here we are 😢
@@OnlyWaterInTheForest Although Trump wraps the flag in himself more than the other way around.
Fascism came to the US in 1949.
Madison Square Gardens.
@@gerardflynn7382 Earlier than that, I'm afraid. There were fascist groups in the U.S. after WWI, just as there were in European countries.
Brilliantly elegant and relevant!
My mother lived in Europe during WWII. She told me several times about how the tone of right wing broadcasters, starting with Rush Limbaugh, mirrored Hitlers tone and rhetoric in his speeches.
My SIL, a naturalized citizen from Russia, is quite alarmed by the rhetoric as well. He's heard it before.... Until Trump, he was a Republican but now he's completely against the current party.
RUSH is dead gone. But someone (s) else is standing in line
the simplest description of fascism is dictatorial rule - such is not possible in your country as long as there are checks and balances and separation of powers and the other safeguards in your paper Constitution.
@@rd264 Unfortunately, such *_is_* still possible if those safeguards are not rigorously enforced.
When I was a toddler, my father would make me sit on his lap at the family computer while he listened to Rush Limbaugh. He tried very hard to indoctrinate me into his views, going so far as to drive me to school without my mom in the car and fill my head with conspiracy theories. One day he told me he'd heard on his daily radio show about how the government had come and slaughtered all of this innocent pig farmer's pigs. I went and told my middle school friends that at the breakfast table, to which they all laughed at me and said my dad was crazy.
The forest was shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the axe. For the axe was very clever and had said "Look, I too am made of wood - I am one of you"
Sounds like a children's book. Last I heard, "The Giving Tree" was considered having bad ideas; it wasn't good for the tree, of course, or the selfish child that cared little for the tree for its own sake.
A wise Turkish proverb.
This is how liberals keep electing people lol. Especially minorities.
#356 "Get the )ab! Get the )aaaaab!" we heard Brandon say again and again, then locking down churches, but not liquor stores. And then:
_"I never said you had to take the )ab! It was always your free choice: No )ab, No )ob!"_ FJB!
Wow. Never heard of that before!😮
For me as a German person it is hard to understand how the parallels between Hitler and Trump are so underestimated in the US. Thanks for your work. Keep it up.
American school children in the 1940s-50s should have been taught how fascism worked, so it wouldn't happen again. Instead we got far-right McCarthyism in the 1950s involving banning books, and witch hunts of alleged Communists with lives and careers ruined. I suspect its motivation was not only a reaction against the New Deal, but to forestall other societal changes like Civil Rights, women's rights, gay rights, unions, and the upcoming environmental movement. Someone must have worried about the environment in the 1950s with those above-ground nuclear tests.
Even today, Hillary can face the Inquisitors in Congress for 8 hours or more and come out well; but University and College Presidents haven't a clue how to respond to McCarthy-style interrogations.
same way Germans did nothing when Hitler was underestimated?
Whatever I (and others) said in a reply is gone, but I'm still getting notifications.
Name one parallel
@@philiprubino8223bad haircuts
America has a very serious problem with single-issue, poorly informed voters who will at least tolerate if not welcome FASCISM. That is fatal to the country.
@philipcollier7805 America having many "poorly informed voters" is a symptom. If we look further, we see they were never educated in HOW to learn, HOW to check "alleged info," HOW to be discerning, etc. Also, their intolerance comes from (is a symptom of) their poor education. When I say education, I'm not talking about "degrees", but "how to think clearly", "how to use intellectual hygiene (remove 'garbage' ideas from your head)" -- the kind of education we *_should_* get in kindergarten through 5th grade.
maybe America is just too stupid to survive. We find out November 5th 2024.
So true, heaven help us if Diaper Don gets elected!
The cult of MAGA are so ignorant & brainwashed they haven’t a clue what Fascism is.
Blame our educational system. We don’t teach civics anymore, and kids don’t really learn History, they’re just interested in their grade point average.
What I’ve noticed about Fascists is that they seem to have a high quantity of fear and self loathing. And a low quantity of empathy and intelligence.
And they project their own insecurities on others.
Yes, and it's by design. A more educated, caring and satisfied populace threatens the financial elite's position of power, money and control.
Strongmen by their nature are pretenders full of insecurity - a truly strong person doesn't need to constantly prove it to everyone. They simply get on with life, no bragging or displays of strength necessary, because it is readily apparent without dialling their activities to 11.
Low quantity of live and let live, do onto others, and mind your own damn business.
That's why Trump says he loves the uneducated.@@budrollin
"When people tell you who they are,believe them "-Maya Angelou-Centuries ago,Ben Franklin warned that those who are willing to barter freedom for security,deserve neither,and risk losing both -
And that is the true lie Faux Snooze and the former guy are selling, “Give us power and we can keep you safe from them.” It is a lot like a street thug protection racket. Anyone willing to take that deal will have neither freedom nor safety.
Cool. Let’s play that thought out on how the Trump vs anti-Trump cohorts handled COVID.
Let me know what you come up with. Thanks!
@@StumblingThroughItAll because you see taking temporary actions to blunt the impact of a global pandemic as a loss of freedom. If people had taken responsibility to prevent overloading hospitals and health resources earlier the very mild close down the US experienced would have been even less. We did not lock down the way Italy had to. Of course YT keeps deleting my remarks.
@@tfodthogtmfof7644 My comments regularly get deleted as well, so I totally understand.
I'll push a bit here.
Trump was presented with a perfect opportunity to consolidate power, crack down on dissent, and implement self-interested policy during the COVID pandemic. In a moment of public panic, the public is far more willing to trade freedoms for security and restored order.
Trump did nothing of the sort. In fact, much of the time he is criticized for the exact opposite. He didn't take enough control in many people's view.
On the other hand, I watched democrat (or anti-Trump) leaders do the opposite. They consolidated their power, cracked down on those who disagreed with them, and implement policies that would help their own self-interests. Many of these exact policies were incredibly detrimental to the very people and institutions they so vociferously claimed to be "protecting". Even now, as they have clearly been shown to have acted wrongly, I hear very little willingness to address the profound damage that many of their ill-conceived policies caused to their constituents and institutions.
Happy to provide receipts if you want specific examples.
Wisdom❤
I find it very depressing that "the media" won't call a fascist a fascist. Glad Rachel Maddow on MSNBC at least did.
That woman is a complete idiot!
Is the word "dementia" on George Carlin's list of unacceptable words? Be nice if corporate media would call Rump's rambling what it is!
@ardentynekent2099 The problem with that is that it's a medical condition and he hasn't been diagnosed by a doctor. We know he'd never allow himself to be tested for it, so don't expect to see it happen.
You don't know what a fascist is, or you would reject the modern Democrat party.
The media is already scared of the fascist right. 😕
“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”
--------― Benito Mussolini
Biden = Trump. Vote Kennedy Jr.!
Thanks God for Robert Reich and all the sane, decent people in the world who aren’t blind to Trumps BS.
Thank God for Trump and his supporters who are not blind to what biden, his minions and his puppeteers have done to our beloved country. biden has let in 10+ million ILLEGALS since he assumed office. That alone she have been enough to have him removed from office. Drug pushers, gangs, spies, terrorists and lord knows what else has been let into OUR country while millions of LEGAL immigrants wait in line. Case closed!
Reich is a paid propagandist
That would be everybody outside of the US.
I always have to laugh at Trump's stories of how well respected Trump and America was under Donald Trump's Administration! Not when I saw all the world leaders laughing at him behind his back for his childish antics!
but are blind to biden, hillary, pelosi, and other establishment dongs...
I always wondered how German society fell to fascism., how the German people allowed it , until this happened & a large group of Americans are allowing it to rise here.
I wish I could have just been allowed to wonder , without getting a first hand representation of it in my own country.
Check out Madison Square Gardens February 1939.
You can read the facts in a history book and see the pictures taken , but nothing will bring context and clarity as seeing it slowly develop right in front of you. Like it has been , though it does make you wonder how bad it was before it became so obvious.
Just look at AfD today.
Yes. BLM/Antifa brownshirts egged on by democrats demonstrated fascism in 2020
the std theory is the Versaille Treaty reparations, plus the depression in the 30s crushed the German economy which lead to the fall of the Weimar Republic, and the election of the many Nazis to the bundestag which Hitler dissolved in '33 unopposed. If this is what you see happening in the US maybe you need new glasses?
It may have been mentioned here, but one aspect of fascism is that big corporations and the government are very closely associated. Our laws permit lobbying of congress using money indirectly. One of the most egregious methods is allowing 'dark money' donations which the Supreme Court created by their "Citizens United" decision. The 'corporations are people' concept is ludicrous, and seems to apply in this discussion.
I have been saying that since Reagan - we have been moving toward a Corporatocracy. Now it appears to be a Fascist Corporatocracy.
And every know-nothings who supports Trump keeps trying to claim that "the left" is fascist in America! A) we don't even have a left, or one with any power anyway, and B) as noted by David Walker, fascism involves corporations and government working together for their mutual benefit.
Well, that could be just "corporatism" not necessarily fascism, the latter has to do with a mythical past, traditional roles for women, supremacy of the majority ethnicity and religion, etc. However, corporations usually run like a dictatorship, not a democracy, which is one reason they hate unions, a democratic organization. And like a dictatorship they promote cronyism and incompetence, like the phrase "promoted to your level of incompetence." That means when you do your job well you get promoted, but then when you don't you've reached your level of incompetence and stop getting promotions, but don't get demoted back to where you were doing your job well. Corporatism also involves the corruption of government officials (elected or not) such that they look out for the private interests rather than the public interest or public good.
Yanis Varoufakis's book "Technofeudalism" brought all these points together succinctly and thoroughly for me.
Kleptocorporate capitalism we are and have been in. I dont think the world oligarchs care what you call them so long as you shut up and go along. Alone we shall fall; together we can reverse this trend -whatever you call it. ACT dont just lament.
My wife's grandfather (RIP) was a NASA engineer and a Korean War vet, and in his later years, he and I spoke about the rise of Trump. Over and over he emphasized "The first time I heard him speak, I said to myself, 'I've heard this language before, and I thought I would never hear it again!'." I am sad we lost him, but I am glad for his sake that he didn't have to experience Jan 2021. What Trump and his supporters have done to America is an affront to the sacrifices made by generations of people like him.
I feel exactly the same way about my dad
Orange man bad 😂😂 muh democracy!
The thing that bothers me the most about allegations about elections is that Trump is insulting the hard, patriotic work of thousands of ordinary Americans who take time to make sure elections are run legally and correctly. Ordinary Americans need to have confidence in each other. Trump denegrates this!
A lot of old folks do that work and are tired of the fight. Younger people need to step up to take their place.
Same with those who are librarians who don't know how to deal with McCarthyism-style attacks. They almost never say, "You are wrong to ban books; it's un-American, end of story. Using 'it harms children' and 'it's pornographic' arguments are lies; you just don't want people to hear ideas or life stories you disagree with, especially people who can't afford to buy a book a week." They also should refuse to defend books when certain passages are attacked as being offensive. That's the mistake the comic-book makers made in the 1950s; we don't know what good ideas may have come to America's youth through picture-books? Perhaps a violent war comic book involving decapitation or mass-killing may have helped stop the Vietnam War, before it began? And librarian should not self-censor or remove books based on what they think someone _might_ object to.
watch project 2025 and tell others to watch it
💯 yes!!!!!
I thank you for putting all of these problems together and calling it by its name FASCISTS
Hopefully we have enough people paying attention and voting against it.
VOTE for your LIFE! Vote blue !
I have a friend that's proud that she's fascist.
Fingers crossed 🤞
Madeleine Albright warned us in 2018 with her book Fascism: A Warning!
Secretary Albright’s warning was 200 years late because America had already been running fascism using slavery based on white supremacy. Then once the slaves were freed the government allowed Southern states to continue their fascist regime in the form of Jim Crow laws designed to make sure the slaves remained in their underclass positions in white society. It’s only been 61 years since America has tried to dismantle fascism on paper, but won’t pass the laws that will actually kill it. Instead America tries to pretend they’ve killed but Trump and the MAGA movement are proof we haven’t.
Because of the rise of the racist tea party
Madeline Albright celebrated the death of 500,000 Iraqi children. She said “it was worth it”
She said so to Leslie Stahl on 60 minutes.
You need to put someone else in a pedestal
A authoritarian government is a criminal organization.
That’s why t rump and friends are in jail or heading there. They are crooks and traitors.
Chris Hedges issued a similar warning in his 2007 book, “American Fascists”. He’s been more true to his values than has Albright.
Education in the US is lacking. We don't learn introspection, accountability and the greater good. And fascists like that. Yes misogyny is a profound part of the domination.
It's true that the kids don't know a thing about civics, but they know there are an unlimited number of genders.
Slavery is a a component of fascism because slavery undergirds the mythology of the fascist regime which is an authoritarian hierarchical form of governing. The key to that definition is hierarchical meaning there are classes of people those designated to be at the top and those designated to be at the bottom and strict laws to make sure people stay in their designated classes. The slave class is designated to do all of the labor but reap none of the rewards because they aren’t real humans their designation is property or 3/5 of a person whose rights no one has to recognize. What nation’s history does this remind you of? It’s only been 61 years since we tried to legislate fascism out of America but it never left , it just went underground and now it’s back. People can always point out the wrong of others but have a blind spot when it comes to themselves. Ex. America ran across the Atlantic to fight fascism in Europe but continued to run fascism in America in the form of a code of laws called Jim Crow. The fascist are back in the form of Trump and the MAGA Movement. The question is what are we going to do about it?
@@Mustapha1963regarding the census. It is the Republicans who are trying to exclude the undocumented immigrants. It is not the democrats.
Don’t know if my original post will appear here but i came back to edit it. I misread your post. The census is to count the reality of the number of people in a given area - illegal or not. By excluding the undocumented - they remain undocumented but still there nonetheless. (Edit) The undocumented are not allowed to vote regardless of being included in the census.
It's not education. Many well educated otherwise rational smart people fall into cults. People are driven by emotion and if something fulfills an emotional need or alleviates fear they will rationalize anything. A smart person can twist logic and rationalized awful things better than a stupid person.
THE SAD TRUTH ABOUT HISTORY IS WE DON'T LEARN FROM IT, BUT REPEAT IT!
I called it in mid, late 2015.
Friends and family laughed when I described what I saw and heard Fascist
No one is laughing now. 😢
"Weve got to fight big money, not democracy." Thank you, I have not understood what we are fighting until now.
"They want personal freedoms, but then it seems like they're willing to give up on democracy." NO, they don't want personal freedoms, they want PRIVILEGE.
Exactly!, the "freedums" they scream about are THEIR absolute-personal privilege, no freedom for us, only for them. It's really neo-feudalism. Their absolute power/freedom, our peasant-serfdom.
They don't actually know what they want. They hate themselves and don't know it. If you listen to what they say and then watch how they act, it's what they hate. Makes no sense.
Why is there so much binary thinking on this issue? We could have a modified democracy that doesn't let morons have a vote. It's not all or nothing. Democracy elected Hamas. Democracy elected Hitler.
Well said.
Muh democracy... Muh fascism.. like literally Hitler 🤪
When someones loyalty to a felon is greater than their love for their country, its laws, and constitution, they are the problem.
When an American can still support a party that is doing what the Democrats are doing with the border they are a useful idiot, and very much a big part of the destruction of the nation.
I love my country enough to vote for a felon.
@aperson7510 voting fir a felon proves you love nothing but your hate.
Anyone that embraces trump/fascism has an evil heart and a warped mind.
@@aperson7510fake account. Another Russian fraud.
Don’t apologize for speaking the truth . Well done and thank you .
Speaking for myself, Mr Reich and Ms Lofthouse, it is an honor to "put up with you." Your words, your time, a huge thank you. May God bless the United States of America.
My grandfather called him a fascist way back in 2001.
He was a B 25 pilot over Germany.
I'm 75 and I was saying the same thing when he ran in 2000 because he said he wanted to change the libel laws in America. Thanks for sharing that it helps me to not feel so alone in my assessment of TFG.
Warning signs that someone may be fascist: claiming to be able to easily and quickly solve difficult problems, but not able to go into detail about the solution, lying in general. This is from Rick Steves address of fascism in Europe.
E.g. Trump’s famous “I’ll announce my solution to XYZ in two weeks.” He promised that about: health care, infrastructure, Covid, etc. And he’s still making “in just 2 weeks” promises during his rallies.
so all politicians are fascist then, got it
Thank you Mr. Reich and Heather Lofthouse for continuing to provide the public with relevant and much needed reminders of the lessons of history. I only wish that the people who need to see this most would be more open to receive it.
they’re not worth our time at this point, magats, better to vote blue and try to talk undecided and apathetic voters to vote blue in the elections and why it’s essential for this election
With trump, fascism isn't so much a philosophy but a lifestyle.
Trump has no philosophy, and couldn't define the word. He is evil, a destroyer and always has been.
Explain with facts
Trump isn't capable of such deep thought, but his actions and desires promote Fascism
Having read "It Cant Happen Here" as a teenager in the 1960s, then discussed with parents, a father who was on the frontlines from Casablanca to VE Day & a mother who basically turned our house into a library! So Lewis' "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag & carrying a cross" was a truth everyone needed to learn then & even more so now!
The Economist had a recent issue with the question "Is America dictator proof?" on the cover. The short answer is no.
Vote/Vota-Azul, Azure, Blau, Bleu, Blue 💙
Understanding the fascist communication playbook is crucial. It involves constructing a narrative that appeals to basic emotions such as fear, the threat of an enemy, and the longing for a bygone, glorious past. The veracity of the narrative is irrelevant; its aim is to captivate the less informed masses. Discussions on tangible political issues like reforms and budgets are avoided, as they open one up to critique. The MAGA movement has thoroughly embraced these tactics.
Yes, that's what I found by reading _How Fascism Works,_ though there were several books of that theme with the rise of Trump and others worldwide.
It also takes mere seconds to put forth a good lie. It would take an hour or more to contradict it. People still think masks were bad during the Pandemic. But they don't hear or question why doctors wear masks during surgery.
You don't think the left has embraced these same tactics? instead of glorious past they use other narratives.. climate change, racism, etc etc. two wings, same bird.
Robert, you are so right! We can’t give up on our democracy! We have to keep fighting for it! Thanks for reminding us.
Knowledge Is Power! Please Keep Spreading the Truth. TY
I started watching John Stewart’s weekly podcast that addresses the failing aspects of our democratic institutions with possible solutions. How can we take action towards commitment to democracy, instead of complaining with fear or cynicism. Thank you for YOUR podcast because history informs reform. And you are not bringing anyone down… you are lifting all of us so we can reject apathy and embolden ourselves to fight for democratic principles like justice and equality for all.💙
Well said! Yes!!!
Umberto Eco‘s 14 points of fascism are pretty much a good description of Trumpism.
Lawrence Britt's fourteen points also line up pretty well.
Educating Trump supporters about fascism is nearly impossible because they shutdown immediately once his name is mentioned. The same goes with fundamentalist Christians, especially men who enjoy the benefits of authoritarian hierarchy and power over women. How do we break through those psychological barriers?
It’s impossible with maga, they’re cult all the way. Many leave on their own as they see for themselves how awful trump and his talk is. Surely, many independents will vote blue.
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Good question.
@@matt7561yes, leave the lying to all the Republican politicians who echo Trump’s lies, especially the notorious big lie where he continues to claim he really won the 2020 election. I can’t speak for all swing states, but I live in one of them, Georgia. Every single vote was counted 3 times, by machine, by hand, and an additional machine count. Biden was the winner in all three counts. So clearly, there was no “vote switching by Dominion machines” as was claimed by many Republicans and by several right wing media outlets.
You can't lying.
Trump uses fascism because he is a criminal and he feels the only way out is to destroy the justice system.
Democrats and people with integrity must mobilize to protect and preserve Democracy and commit to preventing fascism in the U.S. A most important message, and one I never thought would be of such critical concern in my lifetime.
This fascist thinking is insane. The Handmaids Tale comes to life under DT
I've been calling them Fascist since Raygun.
Fascism has been in the country since 1939.
Check out Madison Square Gardens February 1939.
Ray gun did more to roll back the progress our middle class enjoyed beginning with the New Deal then MAGA and the S C ever dreamed of.
Reagan WAS a Fascist @@Mustapha1963
Fascism in the US has been around since slavery, Jim Crow, ethnic cleansing of the natives and the eugenics movement. It's well baked into puritan law and Christian conservatism. It just wasn't known as fascism yet.
Thank you 💥the “Raygun” was the beginning of the normalization of Autocracy…
the rise of toxic capitalism is our biggest issue…
It's rather amazing how much fascism shares with the features of a cult as well.
I have always thought that the meeting that takes place every year with the richest in the world has been orchestrating the world fascists movement for their own selfish reasons.
I concur. The Davos crowd has always concerned me. They certainly can determine how to keep their wealth during any event, with conspiring.
It’s no longer a reach to call what right is doing fascism ..
So refreshing to listen to intelligent people speaking truth. Also Happy Belated Birthday to Robert!
My vote is mine, and mine only. I will not be bought by anyone to change my vote or voice. When you get bought by someone, you are obligated to do what they want. Everyone's vote is sacred and needs to be protected. Vote for democracy, vote blue 💙
This very informative video needs to be shared far and wide.
Thanks so much Robert Reich and Heather for your wake up call to a disaster in the making which is fascist Trump and cronies!
BTW some of Reichs bloggers are as uncivil, rude, closed minded blinkered and obnoxious as Trumps supporters
Dehumanizing “others” inevitably leads to great harm being done to members of that group. It is most concerning that Trump calls people vermin, not human, poisoning our blood. Given the power, he WILL harm these people. And it will be too late to stop him.
That is why we must do it NOW. THIS -ELECTION VOTE FOR KAMALA HARRIS FOR PRESIDENT NO 3RD PARTY YOU HAVE TO VOTE
It is a damn shame the people who need to hear this, won't 😟🇺🇲🗽🇺🇲
Thank you for bringing up project 2025. Few people have even heard if it.
Fascism refers to a bundle of sticks where one stick alone can easily be broken, but a bundle of sticks is strong. It's characterized by national unity by any means possible (even violence), and xenophobia against any "other" that doesn't conform.
Fascism : a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government ( as opposed to democracy or liberalism). For fascism to work one must have a strongman or dictator whose word and whim is absolute law. This type of government can’t stay in power without propaganda and violence. It can’t hold on to power without propaganda and violence. Fascism starts with conspiracies and grievances and a mythology of why this particular authoritarian leader and his followers should be in power. The authoritarian leader is almost worshipped by his followers as a type of savior. We always think our enemy is lurking somewhere out in the bushes or the woods, but the enemy is right in your front or back yard or even in your house. Vote Blue in 2024.
It actually goes back to the Roman "Fasces" Robert described which were symbols of political/governmental power back in Ancient Rome. A bundle of sticks with an axe-head inserted in it, symbolizing the power of the state to punish those who do wrong. IIRC, higher officials would have escorts who'd carry these Fasces around with them in public to denote the status of the politician/official they were accompanying.
Scary
thats not it
Yes, unity is enforced. You have to go along with the crowd, or be punished.
The Soviet Union fought German fascism, but Stalin's regime was fascist.
I want to take the time to verbalize my thankfulness for your enduring fight for democracy. Along with Bernie Sanders, Beau of the Fifth Column, and a handpicked few other people, you are a beacon of hope for a better future.
Beau is one of the Best Teachers out there.
Brilliant way to put it. "Fascists see everything through the lens of strength and weakness." I hope to hell we never let this happen.
Except when it comes to the military. We need a strong military to deter someone attacking. Keep it strong and hope we never need it. Unfortunately we use it all the time and it's becoming weakened. The opposite of what we want.
We need people to use their rights. Stand for your constitution. Stand for rights. Know your rights and exercise them.
If only there were more Robert Reich's in the world 🌎
If only his algorithm came up on right-wing internet. Unfortunately, the folks who need to hear this never will.
I'd settle for four less Trumps...
(But I still love ya, Bob...)👶
pUtin had a Robert killed not long ago. And pUtin is also one of tRumps idols.
@@juanitaross5492 We hear it, we just easily see it as false and hysterical,.
Seems like all the regular media are desperately trying to avoid upsetting Fox viewers. Someone please tell them that they are watching Fox and not them.
Cancelled all "legacy" media. Worse than worthless. They paper over even somthing as vile as treason as just free speech.
I look forward to Saturday mornings mostly because of your Coffee Klatch. Thank you.
Thank you for all you are doing.
Excellent Discussion every Saturday Share
Education for Citizens,
Fascism? Obviously. I get a chuckle when I remind myself that I have moved to Germany to get away from fascism. The irony is rich.
Germany admitted its errors and did so much to remake itself. America is always papering over its faults, demonizing the people who mention them, and pretending it is perfect. Its a recipe for personal and national disaster.
The Germans are still fascists, though, when it comes to Palestine, and perhaps other occupied populations.
I had no idea Germany was still so fascistic until these past eight months.
Dumb comment
I started using the word ‘fascism’ in Trumps first term. Jason Stanley’s book ‘How Fascism Works’ is excellent.
MeToo, oh woops! I mean, Me Too! 🤦♂️
Yes that book was great, and basically described every idea from the Trumpism playbook.
I first heard my nephew, a politically astute young man, use the f word in reference to Trump in oh, I think it was late 2014.
He and his ilk ARE bloody Fascists! My late dad was born in 1923 and served in the USAAC as a gunny sgt. on B-17 in the Pacific, so I know more about WWII than most anyone I know that was born in 1964. And what he did tell, not much about his own service (too painful), I was interested enough to read about, I knew it was important. I think I read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" when I was 12 or 13. He and my uncles of the same generation didn't fight in WWII for the US to devolve into a Hitleresque, authoritarian dystopia.
Thanks to you and your family.
White "supremacy," male domination, plus predatory capitalism are at the core. If we do what's required to SAVE our global Climate, we'll likely save ourselves.
BTW some of Reichs bloggers are, if not outright fascist, uncivil, rude, closed minded blinkered and obnoxious as Trumps supporters - I dont know of any that are critical of Bidens proxy wars in Gaza and Ukraine.
💯 Thank you. Please continue to bring this subject to the forefront because it is a lesson to be taught and learned by each generation. I have been out spoken about this for years and will continue to be. To not be is to turn one's back on the capacity of humanity to evolve humanely.
Your a good man Robert Reich
And please, do not forget the fascist contributions by the Not-So-Supreme Court.
Literally!
Give an example or two, please. Thank you.
Thank you for your reporting and conversation. 🕊️🤍
Of course it is. Which begs the question, how many kind-hearted Germans ignored the signs which Hitler gave in the early 1930s?
I always enjoy your Saturday chat. Thanks for the lesson on the economy woven into the reality of social ‘injustices’.
Thank you, Prof. Reich, for always taking the road less traveled. We need these conversations, so don't concern yourselves with always having "uplifting" topics! Any topic you discuss can be uplifting if one views them as informative and educational! Only armed with authentic information can we move ourselves forward and away from our enemies.
The best conversation on fascism I have ever heard. Thank you!
Love you both...thank you for the work you do to help us be better informed.
Thank you both for your time and expertise 🤍
It’s not even a question. His supporters put his face on the flag. They want to completely change what America is.
Replacing professional civil servants with political patrons; classic dumbing of America.
Love your show!!! Happy coffee drinking!!
Can you imagine, I saw a bumper sticker that stated, I would rather be an American than a Democrat . Perhaps we need an entrepeneur to print some bumper stickers that remind people of how inequality is destroying Democracy here, there and everywhere.
And we have the right wingers to thank for this unprecedented wealth and income inequality. In the early 80s, after Reagan took control, they began earnestly rewriting the economic playbook to benefit _only_ corporations and the uber rich, everyone else be damned.
"The singular objective of the GOP is nothing less than the complete destruction of organized human society." - Noam Chomksy
Of course, that won't exactly fit on a bumper sticker.
@texasbluebonnet4303 Inequality isn't enough. Every state & country has inequality, but few are fascist. Fascism requires "the masses" to organize and group together (again, *as Heather said @**2:59**,* the word comes Latin "fasces, plural" which means "rods" (a bunch of rods) and Italian "fascio" (bundle) -- fascists say a bundle is stronger than one). Social media is the perfect vehicle to let "weak twigs" find each other, to group together. It lets similar-minded people (whether good or bad) to organize, share info, make plans, etc. -- get stronger. When angry people form facebook grps (or on any social media), they CAN be stronger and more dangerous. *_That's why all social problems in the world got much much worse, only after social media (especially facebook)._*
A more nuanced view is that it isn't only social media (which lets _both_ good & bad people organize). It's that human nature is amplified by social media -- and the fact that "bad" or "angry" people are more motivated, so they use social media more -- to organize & amplify their anger. Good people aren't so motivated to do this, so they stay disparate and quiet. Social media LETS bad people group into fasces/bundles and mobs -- to become (literally, in Latin) fascists.
I live in FL. It's already here. 💙
@@keep-ukraine-free Thank you for your quite thoughtful, articulate and well-reasoned comment.
Cheers
Bumper stickers are cheap to make lol u don't need to be an entrepreneur lol just 200 bucks
Religion, especially evangelical Christianity, primes folks for accepting authoritarianism/fascism.
I wish this was touched upon in this video
Me too.
The evangelicals need this education. If he had said this - they would have claimed he was of the devil and never listened to the warning of an impending fascism coming home
@@catpaladin1 Not only do evangelicals know about the “impending fascism”, they’re encouraging it. It’s uber charitable to think otherwise.
@waynedexter Totally agree. Religion requires indoctrination. Religious people can be indoctrinated into *_anything._*
Fair enough. This was just a half-hour discussion, though, and if it was going to have any depth it wasn't going to also be able to cover every possible angle. Maybe we'll see some further discussion to help fill some of those gaps.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Benjamin Franklin
I used “fascism” years ago ; there is no premature anti-fascism.
Great video! As a student of 20th century , of this needed to be said and yes, your video about fascism is excellent.
I know he said he won't do it, but I still wish Mr. Reich would run for President.
We need the wise to educate and the younger to run for office. There needs to be a passing of the wand.
@@catpaladin1Trump is running for president because he wants to not be held accountable for his crimes . But surprise! !! he has been convicted ( by a jury of his pair ) in the so-called " weakest " case"- so called by the mainstream media.
Former Secretary Reich supported Bernie Sanders. I see that prof. Reich still supports key policies and beliefs that Bernie and many others of us believe in, and continue to work with other folks to educate on, and to achieve. U.S. universal healthcare! "Not me, us!" 😏🌳🌳☺️👍🏾
Please don't be ageist, @@catpaladin1. Collectively, we need everyone qualified and able to offer appropriate leadership in our world, in whatever ways they can. Grazie! 😏🌳👍🏽
Thanks for your clear statemens , Heather and Robert!
I would like to see Robert Reich create a playlist specifically about Fascism here on this RUclips Channel. Secondly, I highly recommend a new NetFlix series, “Hitler and the Nazi’s-Evil on Trial.” The series really points out the qualities of Hitler that allowed him to become Germany’s “Savior” and the parallels to Hitler and Trump is phenomenal.
Thank you Robert and Heather for bringing truth everyone needs to know!
Rachel Maddow published an entire book on it...
Anyone who believes a word out of Rachel Maddows big mouth is unbelievably gullible.
Along with an excellent podcast. It also went into some detail about how the movement was derailed, which is really what we need right now.
God bless you, Robert Reich! I've been a fan for years. I regularly recommend you to my friends & neighbors, some of whom are recovering Republicans (!) For context, I'm 72. My local friends are 83, 77, 63, 62 & 59, hardly a demographic appreciated by advertisers or most pollsters. But here's the thing. We all live in FL, also known as "God's Waiting Room". We all live independently in our own homes & we all are plugged into the internet. There's a classic Byrds' song that contained this lyric: "I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now." This is my roundabout way of saying I appreciate you no end. I applaud you coming out saying "Trump is a Fascist" because he is! Keep spreading the word. And to the lovely young woman who's also part of this ongoing podcast, forgive me for not knowing your name. You are a terrific counterpart to Mr. Reich. It's just that I'm more familiar with his output over the years. In closing, much respect to you both. Your voices are sorely needed in these troubling times. 💙
I'm filled with Coffee and Steely determination!
The Klatch has become a morning routine. Mr. Reich, you are one of the people in this world that I pay attention to and respect. I greatly appreciate your combo of knowledge, perspective, and compassion. Thank you for being a clear voice of reason.
"Christians get out and vote. Just this time," he urged. "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It'll be fixed. It'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore my beautiful Christians."
It is absolutely. Fascism never calls itself fascism. Not anymore.
Vote in every election & vote BLUE up & down the ballot for at least the next 10 years.
Make that 30 years & democracy might stand a chance.
In this chat, we mentioned our previous videos on the topic of fascism. In the first one, I laid out the five defining traits of fascism we must be on the watch for: ruclips.net/video/9XTJNy_OrjE/видео.htmlsi=OVH4YC1rbPTBfxEu
Thank you Sir. This is a warning from history. Are we going to listen?
Heather did great as co-host and her name should be in the byline
BTW some of Biden's supporters in Reichs youtube comments are, if not outright fascist, uncivil, rude, closed minded blinkered and obnoxious as Trumps supporters - I dont know of any that are critical of Bidens proxy wars in Gaza and Ukraine.
I liked your conversation. Very informative and eye opener. A lot of us are aware of what’s going on and the other part choose to ignore it
Good morning you both look great!
I really look forward to these episodes. Thanks so much! 👍🩵👏
Mainstream media is not concerned with "remaining balanced"
They only wants "clicks" and $$$$$$$$!! Trump is radio-active, Biden is too dull for them.
The fact that Trump hasn't a clue of what fascism is doesn't mean he isn't one
He comes the left fascists all the time
That was my stumbling block I thought he was too stupid to be a fascist.
@@irishspagetti6565 Because they are
@@SwoleTown how can a leftist be an fascist, fascism exists solely on the far right
@SwoleTown who are what?
Land taxes are getting unaffordable! Food unaffordable! Utilities unaffordable! This is American