Future State Introduces A New Justice League

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  • Опубликовано: 21 янв 2021
  • Today on Variant, we highlight DC Future State's Justice League title with issue #1 to get our first look at the new Justice League!
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  • @Skooby59
    @Skooby59 3 года назад +2332

    Arris being a salty comic fan is something i didnt know i needed. Polite, honest, and not fanboy-eee. I dig it hahaha

    • @St3v3yJ
      @St3v3yJ 3 года назад +70

      I think that's the most important point, if you just give them the title as the best of whatever without earning it, people will reject it. I sure have.

    • @kaydee1485
      @kaydee1485 3 года назад +18

      I thought this was the future though, aren't all those people he mentioned dead or at least not active? I would get it if we were 50 issues in and we saw a mediocre backstory but if that's not been revealed they can say what they want, they just have to fufill it with superb storytelling.

    • @KevinACarroll1996
      @KevinACarroll1996 3 года назад +35

      @@kaydee1485 This is supposed to introduce these characters to us. If this was an original universe with original IPs, it would have merely been mediocre, but when trying to cash in on previously established characters, you should try to show respect to those characters, otherwise you'll alienate your target audience and ruin the entire reason you used those IPs in the first place.

    • @victorsardaneta8727
      @victorsardaneta8727 3 года назад +19

      @@kaydee1485 it was super extra the "greatest detective in the Multiverse" it's clear what the intent was.

    • @nasonvillanueva4542
      @nasonvillanueva4542 3 года назад +3

      Quiet, nerd.

  • @MrBreakdownx
    @MrBreakdownx 3 года назад +645

    "She's the best detective in the multiver-" gets random ad. Even youtube disagreed.

    • @deathgod2832
      @deathgod2832 3 года назад +6

      XD

    • @The_preserver_x16
      @The_preserver_x16 3 года назад +11

      I think that’s foreshadowing that something bad had happened to the great detective of the past to make them say that. Plus I think he’s forgetting these characters are still green nor do they possibly even have access to those heroes.

    • @MrBreakdownx
      @MrBreakdownx 3 года назад +3

      @@The_preserver_x16 I could see it

    • @bobdylan1968
      @bobdylan1968 3 года назад +8

      Why are you guys fan boying over the old characters?
      They are coming back, relax. Why not just enjoy the new characters and actually give them a chance? Instead of being so dull that you can't even manage to stop comparing the two as if they both can't exist.

    • @AsteriusAetosSonOfTheDawn
      @AsteriusAetosSonOfTheDawn 3 года назад +22

      @@bobdylan1968 They are obviously sjw pandering except Jon Superman

  • @thetunnelrat
    @thetunnelrat 3 года назад +659

    No need to excuse yourself for the rant. We all agree with you. Those statements made in the comic sounded like it come out of cw's batwoman

    • @alexwyckoff8962
      @alexwyckoff8962 3 года назад +35

      THE MOST CRINGE SHOW EVER

    • @vanta.8912
      @vanta.8912 3 года назад +20

      Yea it definitely sounded like they were rushin the status of the characters and flipping their character types around

    • @ohihassan693
      @ohihassan693 3 года назад +8

      True words have never been spoken before.

    • @AJ-jq3hm
      @AJ-jq3hm 3 года назад +6

      @@alexwyckoff8962 indeed.. Right up there with Super(anti-man)girl and Titans on the cringe scale.

    • @pandawillishelthostage2985
      @pandawillishelthostage2985 3 года назад +4

      @Giovanni Balbosa-Mc Intosh no

  • @glenien
    @glenien 3 года назад +515

    literally flipped out when they said she's the best detective! like hold onnnnnnnnn

    • @bellemadame83
      @bellemadame83 3 года назад +17

      Maybe she is because the originals are dead but I’m so mad about that

    • @adrianivashkov4242
      @adrianivashkov4242 3 года назад +50

      @@bellemadame83 if Bruce isnt around, then it should be Tim

    • @sidsfuriousfades7805
      @sidsfuriousfades7805 3 года назад +3

      Careful your showing something that needs not saying

    • @TheDizzieC
      @TheDizzieC 3 года назад +4

      @@adrianivashkov4242 What if Tim is also dead? Maybe most of them died and that's why this future state exists.

    • @walterdayrit675
      @walterdayrit675 3 года назад +25

      SJWs have infected DC as well. It's pretty obvious here.

  • @CooperAATE
    @CooperAATE 3 года назад +596

    "Here's some new enemies-"
    Dead.
    "New Justice Lea-"
    Dead.
    OH OKAY.

  • @FantasmaCAW2K
    @FantasmaCAW2K 3 года назад +445

    So this Batman’s been around for less than a month and he’s “saved” Gotham. While people get shot there for just wearing a mask? This isn’t making any sense to me.

    • @FantasmaCAW2K
      @FantasmaCAW2K 3 года назад +32

      @Alexa Mancilla I honestly don’t mind if Tim Fox is the new Batman, don’t get me wrong I’d much rather see Damian Wayne take the cowl cuz I think it’ll be a lot more interesting having the super sons as 2/3 of this JL’s trinity. But for Tim Fox I’m not for or against it. Hopefully DC will release his origins so that I’ll judge for myself.

    • @alejandrogonzalez9840
      @alejandrogonzalez9840 3 года назад +16

      @@FantasmaCAW2K is rather have Tim Drake be the new Batman I felt like this “future state” would’ve been a great opportunity for Tim Drake fans get their wishes fulfilled buuut no talk about wasted potential I mean we already had Richard being Batman, Jason briefly but none for Tim that for me is so dumb

    • @alexmansfield3268
      @alexmansfield3268 3 года назад +2

      @@alejandrogonzalez9840 Tim’s been Batman before

    • @alejandrogonzalez9840
      @alejandrogonzalez9840 3 года назад

      @@alexmansfield3268 oh yea which time cause I don’t really recall any time unlike someone like Richard Grayson which there a handful of stories that I could name but for Tim not so much

    • @dustinmaxwell259
      @dustinmaxwell259 3 года назад +6

      @Alexa Mancilla Nightwing = Great.
      But Damian is an incredibly annoying spoiled little prick.

  • @yuelinxie5721
    @yuelinxie5721 3 года назад +240

    I really like Arris's "salty rant" because it shows what true comic book long-time fans are thinking

    • @twinkle152000
      @twinkle152000 3 года назад +2

      True, it's fair criticism

    • @iamnotawfulanymore3873
      @iamnotawfulanymore3873 3 года назад

      #RetconDoomsdayClock

    • @mrmsc919
      @mrmsc919 3 года назад +3

      Let me guess- Somebody read 2 comics from Walmart and applied for a screenwriter's job for Justice League, didn't make the cut and now we're stuck with their version?

  • @justincholos.balisang6884
    @justincholos.balisang6884 3 года назад +189

    "The new Wonder Woman is from Brazil."
    No wonder why no men had survived there.

    • @ShowheenGuy
      @ShowheenGuy 3 года назад +24

      Amazonian eh! guess where the Amazon Jungle is located! lol

    • @mrmsc919
      @mrmsc919 3 года назад +4

      @@ShowheenGuy Next issue: She delivers packages by day, super hero by night.

    • @neminem233
      @neminem233 3 года назад

      I heard she’s
      Brazillian

    • @IAmAlpharius20
      @IAmAlpharius20 10 дней назад

      Memories broken

  • @Retr-xk7xm
    @Retr-xk7xm 3 года назад +221

    Aris when you called it out that new green lantern is the best detective now I remembered why I subscribed back in grade 5 because you have the same love of these characters as I do just wanted to say that

    • @kappadarwin9476
      @kappadarwin9476 3 года назад +2

      I mean she has a ring that allows her to create anything she can imagine and has formal education in detective work so she is more equipped than Batman.

    • @redassassinyt4908
      @redassassinyt4908 3 года назад +13

      @@kappadarwin9476 but equipment doesn't even come close to smarts, training, and wit

    • @kappadarwin9476
      @kappadarwin9476 3 года назад +3

      @@redassassinyt4908 Batman is a detective in name only. He has the title more as a honorific than an actual certification.
      The New Green Lantern being a former cop has more familiarity with actual detective work and procedure.

    • @neramix_alw1300
      @neramix_alw1300 3 года назад +7

      @@redassassinyt4908 Agreed.
      Sure she has a Green Lantern Ring. So it does prove she has the will power. Along with the formal detective work. But comparing her and Bruce? Naw. The real difference between the two is experience. Jo did go through the formal training. But I doubt she had the amount of training Bruce had. Bats gained a majority of his experience through training around the world and on-field experience. Now I may be biased here since I just learned about Jo. But claiming that she is the best detective in the DC Multiverse? Impossible. We the readers haven't grown that deep of a connection to Jo that we feel like she even earns the title in the first place. Like Arris said. We need more information on why she earns the title in the first place.

    • @redassassinyt4908
      @redassassinyt4908 3 года назад +7

      @@kappadarwin9476 but in order to be a good Detective you need training right? You can't have something like a phone and people will call you smart, no you need to go to school, just like that, this new Green Lantern can't be the greatest detective in the multiverse by just having a ring

  • @bowlfrog1484
    @bowlfrog1484 3 года назад +272

    This rant is so correct. They messed up a lot of things with this comic. Absolutely forgetting the original and best heroes accomplishments in the DC universe is something fans just don’t agree with.

    • @redbullet8807
      @redbullet8807 3 года назад +3

      Literally doesn’t matter because it’s its a two issue series and DC goes back to their regular comics in March.

    • @bowlfrog1484
      @bowlfrog1484 3 года назад +8

      @@redbullet8807 yeah I guess you’re right.

    • @MistaAwen
      @MistaAwen 3 года назад +8

      Comics are becoming too political

    • @zaheerdawood3814
      @zaheerdawood3814 3 года назад +11

      @@MistaAwen yep... DC getting Woke in their comics now

    • @TheEnigmaticBM39
      @TheEnigmaticBM39 3 года назад +5

      @@MistaAwen how was this comic political?

  • @DemonVido
    @DemonVido 3 года назад +50

    "This isn't your dads justice league"
    That's the problem

    • @mrmsc919
      @mrmsc919 3 года назад +7

      Then they get taken out the next day. Problem solved. lol

  • @Trethar512
    @Trethar512 3 года назад +78

    As a chef, I agree with the amount of salt in this video.

    • @njmusica
      @njmusica 3 года назад +2

      😂😂😂

  • @mrmoonboi9534
    @mrmoonboi9534 3 года назад +200

    I wish Damian Wayne was Batman in this series, his chemistry between him and Jon as always been a good read.

    • @pickedceasar1216
      @pickedceasar1216 3 года назад +3

      You mean Jon?

    • @mrmoonboi9534
      @mrmoonboi9534 3 года назад +3

      @@pickedceasar1216 my mistake, sorry.

    • @levistea174
      @levistea174 3 года назад +5

      I would have LOVED that

    • @quentinfogger5755
      @quentinfogger5755 3 года назад +7

      It would have been great to see Damian Wayne as Batman in the Future State timeline. How do you think he would get along with this new team?

    • @soumyabratosaha6409
      @soumyabratosaha6409 3 года назад +1

      Where Damian went??

  • @FanaticPhyso
    @FanaticPhyso 3 года назад +122

    Arris you don't have to be sorry for the rant, I think most of us fans would agree with you about that point

  • @Shibefu
    @Shibefu 3 года назад +223

    The fact that you’re salty is completely understandable. I feel like the intention of presenting these characters as better than their predecessors is a poor attempt at making them interesting or forcing them onto a pedestal for which they haven’t earned. Similar to a Mary Sue.

    • @mrmsc919
      @mrmsc919 3 года назад +2

      I give more props to Young Justice and the Titans.

    • @mangkubi
      @mangkubi 2 года назад +1

      I don't understand why they pick Tim fox as Batman? There are better candidates like tim, dick or damian.

    • @jonathansoko1085
      @jonathansoko1085 2 года назад +1

      @@mangkubi it's a woke decision not a logical one

    • @jonathansoko1085
      @jonathansoko1085 2 года назад

      @Tanner Hutchings how sway

  • @Vega-lw5tl
    @Vega-lw5tl 3 года назад +59

    The only thing that is interesting about this series is Yara being so damn beautiful.

    • @jackmyers8687
      @jackmyers8687 3 года назад +9

      I must agree. A very well drawn character. Not that the old Wonder Woman was a hag but damn I love this new ones look!

  • @connorthegunlovingeek7465
    @connorthegunlovingeek7465 3 года назад +78

    The fact that she's a better detective than Tim Drake is already a huge stretch at best

  • @HectorHernandez-yb7dr
    @HectorHernandez-yb7dr 3 года назад +332

    They disrespected my mans homie, The Batman.

    • @j_u_s_t_d_e_e_
      @j_u_s_t_d_e_e_ 3 года назад +8

      fr

    • @jukilllsss2854
      @jukilllsss2854 3 года назад

      How

    • @Etherisabove
      @Etherisabove 3 года назад

      Not really

    • @Wavy932
      @Wavy932 3 года назад +18

      @@jukilllsss2854 wdym how?? Batman's had over 8 decades to prove why he's the best and this new GL comes out of nowhere and is suddenly the best🙄 its just like Captain Marvel in the MCU being the new powerhouse over Thor, it's just not right😪

    • @jukilllsss2854
      @jukilllsss2854 3 года назад +4

      @@Wavy932 awe ok that makes sense I think entertainment companies have no patience anymore as far as building things, so everything is forced and pushed to the moon immediately

  • @Hidacal
    @Hidacal 3 года назад +55

    Looking at this makes me look forward to another reboot in another 2-3 years..

  • @Emmanuelmatu
    @Emmanuelmatu 3 года назад +43

    All I want to know is what the heck happened to Damien Wayne's Batman and why we got Tim Fox's Batman. I was really digging the dynamic between Jon and Damien.

    • @tutu45600
      @tutu45600 2 года назад

      I KNOW!

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 2 года назад +1

      Wasn't the dynamic already screwed up when they stupidly aged up Jon to rush things?

    • @streakspider2435
      @streakspider2435 Год назад +2

      @Olsen Ciuni damien is half middle eastern they can easily make him dark and they should. Plus it makes sense since all the robins look the same making one different in skin colour makes a lotta sense.

  • @kdrpai
    @kdrpai 3 года назад +139

    The whole claim of “she is the best detective” or he is the best Batman really turns me off, no proof only statements, while in the future Batman series vigilantes/ masked people are being hunted by the magistrate, I call baloney!

    • @kaydee1485
      @kaydee1485 3 года назад +9

      Wait for the story to unfold, this is just issue 1. They never said he was the best batman either, they said he 'truely' saved Gotham. That might mean he killed off or permanently incapacitated batman's rogues gallery, we dont know. Let's wait for more issues.

    • @tofunmiosunsami5363
      @tofunmiosunsami5363 3 года назад +2

      No Batman has been stated to truly save Gotham so no dc is saying he's the best Batman.

    • @howlthehell9791
      @howlthehell9791 3 года назад +6

      It’s that sjw agenda

    • @billbutton8468
      @billbutton8468 3 года назад +1

      Yea its supposed to intrigue you and make you wonder how that's possible. I think they're going to go into it soon

    • @billbutton8468
      @billbutton8468 3 года назад +2

      @@howlthehell9791 oh god, don't bring that weird shit onto this channel. You can criticize characters and writing without trying to bring identity and weird shit like that into it.

  • @matthiasorderson4452
    @matthiasorderson4452 3 года назад +177

    I appreciated the rant cuz I feel
    The same way bout everything

  • @MR-xm9on
    @MR-xm9on 3 года назад +29

    this new run feels like a CW show

  • @Rand0.Mality.74
    @Rand0.Mality.74 3 года назад +31

    I'm getting less "Fifth Element"-more "Janelle Monae" from this Green Lantern. Js

  • @jonathonvieira9583
    @jonathonvieira9583 3 года назад +43

    Sounds like the Justice League is full of a bunch of Captain Marvel

    • @vicentserrano9268
      @vicentserrano9268 3 года назад +7

      Truly the worst. At least jon is the only dc character hss been in comics in just a few or more years, especially one of my favorite comics DCeased.

    • @tschmitty1843
      @tschmitty1843 3 года назад +2

      What does that even mean

    • @AmanKumar-ty8kc
      @AmanKumar-ty8kc 3 года назад

      Yeah. Stupid sjw crap

  • @Supergrunt8
    @Supergrunt8 3 года назад +38

    My favorite part is when he started ranting, I wholeheartedly agree.

  • @TinoMexineoMtz
    @TinoMexineoMtz 3 года назад +47

    Reminds of when marvel introduced that new character that was smarter than reed richards (?) lol

  • @carlthomas5307
    @carlthomas5307 3 года назад +7

    Your rant is perfectly justified. I totally agree with you. It’s like a slap in the face to the original characters and the fans.

  • @pavankrishna.s396
    @pavankrishna.s396 3 года назад +247

    When this guy rants about something you know it's got issues.

    • @ninjahombrepalito1721
      @ninjahombrepalito1721 3 года назад +1

      Ikr? XD

    • @ShowheenGuy
      @ShowheenGuy 3 года назад

      She is the best in the MULTIVERSE. You truly need to think about that one and it is then when you will see how wrong he is! There truly is a first for everything, isn't there! Let me give you all a hint. Stephen Strange was the best Sorcerer before he was even a Sorcerer. He also gained most of his experience in battle in a "single time frame" (which means that 1 day for Wong was actually the equivalent to years for Strange) against Dormammu.

    • @pavankrishna.s396
      @pavankrishna.s396 3 года назад +7

      @@ShowheenGuy so??? what are you saying??? Dr. Strange was not introduced as the best sorcerer, he was introduced as master of black magic and later only got his origin story, still he wasn't called the best but ancient one was still alive. Latdr only as time passed he became sorcerer supreme after learning from the ancient one and taking his title sorcerer supreme. Also looks like the one you said was the MCU's storyline but still there are minor differences like strange wasn't a prodigy, he didn't even know the ancient one was magical until one after some time seeing him driving away a spirit, the battle with Dormamu came much much later in his career.

    • @ninjahombrepalito1721
      @ninjahombrepalito1721 3 года назад +1

      @@ShowheenGuy it's like you ignored his whole argument. But even taking your example, sorcerers are a secret society on Earth. No other planets. And only few people are sorcerers. So it's really not a stretch that an atheist and unorthodox neurosurgeon that learned magic and shifted his full dedication from medicine to magic would then come to be sorcerer supreme.
      .
      Really not the same as some human teenage girl we just met just happens to be the greatest detective in the multiverse. Of all the many detectives on each of the planets, many with years of dedication and experience. And she's the best detective just because she is. And especially because we already have other characters that are very outstanding detectives. Really not the same.

    • @ShowheenGuy
      @ShowheenGuy 3 года назад

      He is arguing that experience outweighs talent and skill. I understand that achievements may entitle somebody as "great, greater, or greatest," but again, you're all missing and ignoring my rebuttal, which is that quality > quantity. You are all thinking and working backwards, beginning from 'in the moment' to the past. But what about the future!?

  • @Jordan-389
    @Jordan-389 3 года назад +68

    I would prefer if Damian or dick was the new Batman and at this point of time shouldn’t Tim drake been know as the best detective and it feels weird to jump straight into this without getting to read how they save the world and join together. It writing terms show don’t tell

    • @michaelmacleod6517
      @michaelmacleod6517 3 года назад +8

      Tim and Damian are too white to be Batman now. Totes not racist but that's how DC sees it now.

    • @tymon39
      @tymon39 3 года назад +2

      @@michaelmacleod6517 dick doesn’t wanna be Batman and neither does Damian lol

    • @link8042
      @link8042 3 года назад +12

      @@tymon39 That’s why Tim makes the most sense.

    • @adrianivashkov4242
      @adrianivashkov4242 3 года назад +7

      @@michaelmacleod6517 they should of used Cass then. Best fighter in the batfam so why not her.

    • @spe02001
      @spe02001 3 года назад +3

      @@adrianivashkov4242 ya, Cass talk less which a lot like bat character.

  • @lukewiegand9001
    @lukewiegand9001 3 года назад +6

    Saying this new character is the best detective is like saying Rey is the most powerful force wielder.

  • @SuperMechguy
    @SuperMechguy 3 года назад +35

    I see they are taking the Star Trek Discovery route of making them the best ever no questions asked.

    • @mrmsc919
      @mrmsc919 3 года назад

      Discovery was cool and all but- These new fans will believe ANYTHING put in front of them. Anybody wanna buy a bridge? I've got 2 of them. One in Manhattan and the other in California.

  • @ramasamy001
    @ramasamy001 3 года назад +91

    Completely agree with you. You can't just drop stuff like this and expect us to believe you.

    • @redbullet8807
      @redbullet8807 3 года назад +1

      If it takes place decades into the future p, it’s plausible within the context of the story.

    • @toledochristianmatthew9919
      @toledochristianmatthew9919 3 года назад

      @@jasonlee2438 the problem is they haven't proven themselves yet and only had a few issues. Their stories aren't even fleshed out yet. And DC they know if this fails they will try to sweep all of this under a rug and create another crisis event that brings things to another new status quo, wasting everyone's time getting attached to these characters.

  • @clonecommander2600
    @clonecommander2600 3 года назад +289

    I thought I’d like future state but, yeah no

    • @utlwanangmmeti9466
      @utlwanangmmeti9466 3 года назад +33

      Yea like Jon I miss the old justice league

    • @oneaboveallferrarifan2725
      @oneaboveallferrarifan2725 3 года назад +17

      No way after this video

    • @clonecommander2600
      @clonecommander2600 3 года назад +24

      @@oneaboveallferrarifan2725 Jon is the only good part of it all

    • @TheOnlyRealGamerOnEarth
      @TheOnlyRealGamerOnEarth 3 года назад +60

      And this is why comics are slowly failing. People want them to do something different but when they do everyone bitches. So then they get forced to just retexture old arcs with the same characters.

    • @oneaboveallferrarifan2725
      @oneaboveallferrarifan2725 3 года назад +16

      @@clonecommander2600 that’s what’s scary, the other characters are bringing him down with them,hopefully he doesn’t lose popularity, I’m loving Dceased DeadPlanet John, really shows how he can be the greatest superman going forward

  • @ghostsofwargow2511
    @ghostsofwargow2511 3 года назад +31

    When you were naming off other great detectives, you forgot to mention Rorschach, lol. One of my favorites.

    • @billbutton8468
      @billbutton8468 3 года назад +3

      He's kind of more of just a normal psycho

    • @datscrazy4095
      @datscrazy4095 Год назад

      he isn't really DC tho, but nice callout since he is technically cannon

  • @j_ortiz618
    @j_ortiz618 3 года назад +25

    Green Lantern is giving off Janelle Monae vibes.

  • @datharo5
    @datharo5 3 года назад +28

    This Green Lantern looks like Janelle Monáe

  • @rydescho
    @rydescho 3 года назад +18

    I love the salty rant starting at 5:21!

  • @matttan8066
    @matttan8066 3 года назад +3

    5:26 arris we both agree who is the most greatest detective in history, the dark knight himself batman

  • @echevarriawilson
    @echevarriawilson 3 года назад +4

    I love your explanation on who is considered the "best" at what they do in comics. I agree completely with your logic and I'm one of those that end up rejecting a character when they pop up out of no where with no source material on abilities and suddenly are considered the best over legacy characters who have decades of stories with them pulling off the impossible

  • @Ra-reid
    @Ra-reid 3 года назад +66

    I see Aris has earned his red lantern ring and gave into the rage

    • @tsundokus
      @tsundokus 3 года назад +1

      I just want a red lantern omnibus reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    • @redassassinyt4908
      @redassassinyt4908 3 года назад +3

      He embodies every DC fan's rage

    • @ComicBookGuy420
      @ComicBookGuy420 3 года назад

      @@redassassinyt4908 marvel fans too, did you see New New Warriors?
      Horrendous

    • @king.olympus7639
      @king.olympus7639 3 года назад

      @@ComicBookGuy420 LOL Marvel did the same thing again with the “Children Of Atom”

  • @jyavant2393
    @jyavant2393 3 года назад +130

    I felt your rant was well within reason.

    • @bobdylan1968
      @bobdylan1968 3 года назад +4

      No it wasn't? It was just fan boying like a child. "Wahhhh the og characters are supposed to be the best! Wahhhh"
      Why would you want these new characters be bargain bin versions of the previous ones? They are building off the ones that came before. They SHOULD be better than them.
      It'd be factually shit writing if they pander to that whiney entitled attitude. If everything had to be punctuated with, "kent lifts a massive amount of weight on his shoulders, like his father before him. But but oh don't worry, clark is still stronger". Or "a brilliant detective, but of course only second best" lmfao. Like come. On.
      And it DOES make narrative sense. They've been doing this a long long time already. We just haven't seen those stories. This takes place, where these characters are already WELLL established in their roles.

    • @kingsiree
      @kingsiree 3 года назад +11

      @@bobdylan1968 imma go ahead and tell you bob. Nobody is gonna read that. Especially if you’re defending this bull😂😂 and you can’t complain and say he’s fanboying like a child then leave a whole essay

    • @AsteriusAetosSonOfTheDawn
      @AsteriusAetosSonOfTheDawn 3 года назад +6

      @@bobdylan1968 we haven’t seen any of them grow only Superboy

    • @Red-nz6li
      @Red-nz6li 3 года назад +5

      @@bobdylan1968 “we just haven’t seen those stories” that’s exactly his point they just shove it down your throat without saying why they are the best you cant just spend 50+ years establishing and developing a character to their peak just to turn and around make someone with only a month of progress and say they’re better in my opinion they should have developed them more individually before making these claims and such.

    • @bobdylan1968
      @bobdylan1968 3 года назад

      @@AsteriusAetosSonOfTheDawn they have their own separate comics! Gah!

  • @rishabhadhikari6456
    @rishabhadhikari6456 3 года назад +7

    This probably happens when you are truly in a rush to do things and you forget about everything the other characters have experienced and you just blatantly stamp a "best in the multiverse" tag without second thoughts.

  • @drphot6050
    @drphot6050 3 года назад +8

    "You even become a hero or live long enough to become a villain and have hankerin for some Choko Crunch cereal!"

  • @NCMonefaith
    @NCMonefaith 3 года назад +44

    So the justice league is recognized around the world but Batman is illegal in his own city? Did the writers of Arrow write this issue?

    • @tofunmiosunsami1152
      @tofunmiosunsami1152 3 года назад +4

      Actually justice league takes place after the next batman.

    • @Shadowant25
      @Shadowant25 3 года назад +7

      So basically he possibly stops the magistrate? Or is the comic out already ?

    • @KingShibe
      @KingShibe 3 года назад +4

      These comics are set in different years.

    • @dickteh8457
      @dickteh8457 3 года назад

      That is just plain confusing. It is bad for readers, so basically now we know Batman did not die?

    • @berniet1215
      @berniet1215 3 года назад

      Exactly that’s why they should’ve released in chronological order

  • @MortalScorp
    @MortalScorp 3 года назад +25

    They forgot to add SECOND, to her being the best detective. They're putting the truly first batman to shame.

    • @MacBamboocha
      @MacBamboocha 3 года назад +9

      Just him? You talk like Tim Drake, Chimp, both incarnations of the Question and Constantine aren't a thing!
      Arris was right in this review, there have been so many characters with literal decades of material to proof how good they are at what they are doing. You can't just create a new character and declare it to be the best at something just after a story when so much established history already exists, especially if that very history disproves the point. Show don't tell, than you earn the title!
      Not to mention that kinda implies that Bats 2.0 ain't as good in the detective role. If that's the case though, how the hell did he save Gotham exactly? And how does Batman Beyond fit in all of this?

    • @MortalScorp
      @MortalScorp 3 года назад +1

      @@MacBamboocha Yeah those are great too, but Batman is the one that shines the most, with being " Worlds greatest detective" But they're still awesome, question being my second favorite

    • @MacBamboocha
      @MacBamboocha 3 года назад +5

      @@MortalScorp I'm not saying Batman ain't the best, don't get me wrong please! :) My point is DC is filled to the brim with amazing detective stories and characters. What they did with this Green Lantern is a slap to the face to all of them, not just our beloved Brucy boy!
      She got *_A LOT_* to proof now, and if the writing is at the level of this new book, well... I doubt she ever will.

    • @MortalScorp
      @MortalScorp 3 года назад +3

      @@MacBamboocha really do agree. The detectives in DC are amazing.

    • @boxtupos7718
      @boxtupos7718 3 года назад +3

      @@MortalScorp Batman asks Detective Chimp for help from time to time.
      In terms of pure deductive skills, Chimp might be better than Bruce; Bruce just has the tech that allows him to gather information faster and better.
      Arguably, Detective Chimp is the greatest Detective in DC.

  • @Dogofwar9
    @Dogofwar9 3 года назад +17

    So why isn’t Daimen Wayne the new batman? And I agree with your rant wholeheartedly.

    • @timwall5895
      @timwall5895 3 года назад +1

      Yeah fr. It was even set up in Grant Morrison’s Batman #666

  • @Galebreth
    @Galebreth 3 года назад +3

    What a breath of fresh air. Arris has an actual critique!❤️

  • @Mapdotnowhere
    @Mapdotnowhere 3 года назад +81

    The DC you knew will not be the one you know

    • @darkseid2157
      @darkseid2157 3 года назад

      Good

    • @lt2672
      @lt2672 3 года назад

      That's the point. Things change. Either they freshen up or get left behind. Comic fans always plead for change but once it comes lots of them hate on it.

    • @Invictus-Solaris
      @Invictus-Solaris 3 года назад +5

      @@lt2672 not all change is good change.

    • @toledochristianmatthew9919
      @toledochristianmatthew9919 3 года назад +3

      @@lt2672 the problem is dc or comic books in general don't change or commit to it at all or screw it up in the process. Like they are either ignoring or screwing all the legacy characters (Wally West for example) and even the new ones make another desperate attempt again. Heck they don't even commit to their own new characters and rely on the old ones to point of the stories becoming stagnant.

    • @grief6052
      @grief6052 3 года назад +2

      @@lt2672 this was an attempt at “freshening up” that completely fails solely because they were too scared to make a completely new IP that isn’t related to the old, already established and complete IP.
      They played it safe, and it failed miserably

  • @Conk3r16
    @Conk3r16 3 года назад +43

    Show, Don't Tell is the golden rule of storyteling

  • @venkataadityavardhanpatnan2411
    @venkataadityavardhanpatnan2411 3 года назад

    5:15 to 7:33 is a great part Arris explains how superheroes we have grown fond of have become what they are today! Great explanation!

  • @alisonsmith4436
    @alisonsmith4436 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for the great video Arris

  • @andrewpenny4676
    @andrewpenny4676 3 года назад +32

    Yes he mention Batman beyond Terry mcginnis he will always be my batman of the future.

    • @sbyrstall
      @sbyrstall 3 года назад

      Batman of "Issue 1,000,000" comes to mind.

    • @andrewpenny4676
      @andrewpenny4676 3 года назад

      @@sbyrstall Personally after reading some of future state and the next batman it feels like a love letter to marvel 2099. With the magistrate being akin to marvel public eye.

    • @rnspurgn3015
      @rnspurgn3015 3 года назад +3

      @@andrewpenny4676 not a love letter, more of a rip off

  • @LongLiveTheLionKing2
    @LongLiveTheLionKing2 3 года назад +11

    Anyone wanna tell me why Damian didn't take up the cowl? He did so in DCeased and already has established chemistry with Jon

    • @kappadarwin9476
      @kappadarwin9476 3 года назад

      Because that would be too predictable.

    • @redbullet8807
      @redbullet8807 3 года назад

      If you’ve been keeping up with what’s been going on in Batman comics lately, you’d know that Damian is not on the best terms with Bruce right now.

    • @chienvu8144
      @chienvu8144 3 года назад

      I don’t have problem with Tim Fox but why he can’t be a completely new batman on his own way. Why he has to act like Bruce?

    • @chienvu8144
      @chienvu8144 3 года назад

      I don’t have problem with Tim Fox but why he can’t be a completely new batman on his own way. Why he has to act like Bruce?

    • @kappadarwin9476
      @kappadarwin9476 3 года назад

      @@chienvu8144 Batman is a mantle, it can be passed down.

  • @coachtali5151
    @coachtali5151 3 года назад +4

    The spirit of Jack Johnson smiles upon this future universe. They was mad he was better than everyone before him too...🤷🏿

  • @erelmatita3559
    @erelmatita3559 3 года назад +1

    thank you for being our voice Arris!

  • @bigboi_chriis1495
    @bigboi_chriis1495 3 года назад +54

    They’re really tryna force these characters onto trying to hard to make us like them which is back firing

    • @Red-nz6li
      @Red-nz6li 3 года назад +6

      they just shove it down your throat without saying why they are the best you cant just spend 50+ years establishing and developing a character to their peak just to turn and around make someone with only a month of progress and say they’re better in my opinion they should have developed them more individually before making these claims and such.

    • @billbutton8468
      @billbutton8468 3 года назад +1

      @@Red-nz6li i think thats the point. They want us to wonder how tf theyre saying these things and the story will show a lot later on or something

  • @glxonyt
    @glxonyt 3 года назад +64

    Who else thought it was gonna be the kid version of the justice league 😂😂

    • @bashirsanilawan5319
      @bashirsanilawan5319 3 года назад

      And its

    • @malefic1blitz602
      @malefic1blitz602 3 года назад

      I did

    • @korozom
      @korozom 3 года назад +1

      I wish DC was more creative like no batman, superman and wonderwoman, i mean they are the same ... why flash keep like flash, i hope they change characters like a grumpy flash or a grouchy flash, or leader flash ahaha it will be very interesting

    • @malefic1blitz602
      @malefic1blitz602 3 года назад +1

      @@korozom sometimes I wish I they’d push other teams into the spot light like titans, young justice or outsiders

  • @jasoncunius532
    @jasoncunius532 3 года назад

    You are The G!! Way to stand up and educate seriously awesome

  • @neilongotham2915
    @neilongotham2915 3 года назад +2

    Great episode love the new style of storytelling for the next generation of comic book readers

  • @wyzasukitan
    @wyzasukitan 3 года назад +26

    The salty mini-rant was very cathartic. I needed that.

  • @deltaprime3509
    @deltaprime3509 3 года назад +28

    Personally I think Jon’s costume would look better if it had cape.

    • @osieliglesias3492
      @osieliglesias3492 3 года назад

      I disagree, this look makes him more...original?

    • @zxt5148
      @zxt5148 3 года назад +10

      @@osieliglesias3492 It makes you realize how bare Supermans design is without it.

    • @robertthreadgill5356
      @robertthreadgill5356 3 года назад +1

      He does wear a cape in Future State: Superman/Wonder Woman

    • @victorsardaneta8727
      @victorsardaneta8727 3 года назад

      Tbh, why does he realistically need a cape?

    • @johnlawful2272
      @johnlawful2272 3 года назад

      @@zxt5148 like most one piece outfit characters

  • @adandeleon2733
    @adandeleon2733 3 года назад +96

    I’m sorry but dc comics are just becoming stupid!🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @mitchellbirkhead9214
      @mitchellbirkhead9214 3 года назад +20

      Leftist ideology taking over, instead of just writing good stories and characters.

    • @PureAbsurdist
      @PureAbsurdist 3 года назад +12

      @@mitchellbirkhead9214 🤦🏾‍♂️ how is this leftist? It's a new era of heroes.🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @billbutton8468
      @billbutton8468 3 года назад +10

      @@mitchellbirkhead9214 okay so you have no idea what "leftist" means you're just a weirdo whining that these characters are the wrong race and wrong gender. Says a lot about you. You cant say theyre not focused on good writing or good characters because you haven't read it worth shit

    • @TORRIE.
      @TORRIE. 3 года назад +19

      It's really dumb that they didn't make new characters and instead chose to reskin old ones
      And then people wanna defend it like it isn't just the old characters but with a different coat of paint
      I would've loved brand new characters
      Not just Justice League but with every race and gender

    • @billbutton8468
      @billbutton8468 3 года назад +2

      @@TORRIE. they are new characters. It's just the same LEGACY. And DC has ALWAYS been huge on legacy characters.

  • @MrPnutt916
    @MrPnutt916 3 года назад

    Loved the rant!!

  • @TheElementsAreWithMe
    @TheElementsAreWithMe 3 года назад +8

    My my that rant of yours was a nice change of pace, really made my day and bonus I agree with you.

  • @bluknight99
    @bluknight99 3 года назад +37

    The Janelle Monae GL being crowned the best detective in the Multiverse and the new Batman being hailed as Gotham's messiah for no discernable reason other than someone at DC "says so"? Ah...Rey Skywalker would approve.
    Edit: You can tell this really gets under Arris' skin because his hand gestures become more agitated.

    • @djstylegaming1398
      @djstylegaming1398 3 года назад +2

      Rey was never deemed the best Jedi or anything tho everything she does besides flying we know she learned from Leia or Luke. Anikan and Luke were also good at flying and obi wan even tho he hated flying. But she’s a girl so rant on

    • @shadowninja2338
      @shadowninja2338 3 года назад +5

      @@djstylegaming1398 pretty sure it has nothing to do because she’s a girl but because she’s a poorly written character

    • @KevinACarroll1996
      @KevinACarroll1996 3 года назад

      @@djstylegaming1398 It has nothing to do with her being a girl. We never get to see why she's good at what she's good at. The only things that would make sense based off of how she was introduced would be engineering for decades old ships, survival, and basic fighting. Her being somewhat on level with Kylo makes absolutely no sense and that's what people have an issue with.

    • @lt2672
      @lt2672 3 года назад +2

      This is 15 years after Tim dons the cowl so there's plenty of time to save the Gotham.
      I also don't have a problem with Jo being the best detective in the multiverse. The new generations tend to surpass the old ones.

    • @KevinACarroll1996
      @KevinACarroll1996 3 года назад

      @@lt2672 But this is (sort of) their first appearance and they use it to tell us that these characters are better than the previous characters, the characters that their target audience loves. Why would anyone think that putting down characters your target audience likes to prop up your new characters is a good idea?

  • @humamsiddiqui5284
    @humamsiddiqui5284 3 года назад

    Loving the Saltiness.. very true points

  • @levstepanov2892
    @levstepanov2892 3 года назад +25

    The Social Justice League

  • @kelian69
    @kelian69 3 года назад +100

    This JL looks like they could be defeated by a sexist joke.

  • @deathbygod5810
    @deathbygod5810 3 года назад +12

    When i get older, I'll tell my chidren that Bruce Wayne is the best detective and the best Batman of all times.

    • @mrmsc919
      @mrmsc919 3 года назад

      The only Batman. Amazon lets anyone buy a suit these days...

  • @KungfuJoeProductions
    @KungfuJoeProductions 3 года назад +1

    They way he explained "who is the best detective" or "who fully saved Gotham"? Made me back this video up like wow!

    • @mrmsc919
      @mrmsc919 3 года назад +1

      I hit PAUSE II - And exactly how was that achieved? It's a slap in the face to the source material and fans.

  • @shawnprince2884
    @shawnprince2884 3 года назад

    Love the rant, need more of that. Best episode ever!! lol

  • @seththesavage6018
    @seththesavage6018 3 года назад +28

    It is rare is see Arris critique a book this hard, and I can't help with every point he is bringing up. What is it with these writers making new characters that are suddenly supposed to be best in their field when there has been characters around for decades who have done the same work?

    • @redbullet8807
      @redbullet8807 3 года назад

      Because this comic takes place in the future where either the previous heroes are MIA or retired and these new guys are at a point where they’re at the peak of their careers.

  • @vojislavS8652
    @vojislavS8652 3 года назад +6

    First time i ever saw Arris getting worked up about a superhero and the best part is that it's totally justified and relatable

    • @ShowheenGuy
      @ShowheenGuy 3 года назад

      He is actually wrong! They're saying it themselves. THE MULTIVERSE. Has Marvel and Dr. Strange taught you all nothing!

  • @Creathrod
    @Creathrod 3 года назад

    Nice video
    Thanks for the info

  • @cxncien
    @cxncien 3 года назад

    Love the little rant😁🔥🔥🔥

  • @VarjoPira
    @VarjoPira 3 года назад +8

    "Tell me, and I'll forget.
    Show me, and I might remember.
    Involve me, and I'll understand. "

  • @anthonymignogna4703
    @anthonymignogna4703 3 года назад +48

    I will never know why Damien didn’t become the new batman

    • @lorenzogonzales4239
      @lorenzogonzales4239 3 года назад +7

      I almost feel like they introduced and set damien up to take over the mantle, and then said “mmmm never mind”. now that’s my take based on being a part time reader, not a fully involved reader. so I may be wrong. but that’s my take after following damien wayne for a couple years.

    • @hinatashoyo1748
      @hinatashoyo1748 3 года назад

      @@lorenzogonzales4239 Damien Wayne has had a lot of backlash tbh. Everyone says that he’s annoying and pretty bad, so I guess that’s one reason why he didn’t take on the mantle.

    • @korozom
      @korozom 3 года назад

      @@hinatashoyo1748 I hope when they meet they fight xd

    • @insomaniac1796
      @insomaniac1796 3 года назад +2

      @@hinatashoyo1748 but they did gave damian pretty good character development,he seems to be a mash of Grayson and Jason

    • @haiqal5333
      @haiqal5333 3 года назад

      I don't think Bruce would want that, though introducing an unknown batman out of the blue seems stupid . Why not just make the new guy Damian's son/daughter? They could make a storyline where they meet with Bruce and has a heartfelt moment.

  • @DonDotta44
    @DonDotta44 3 года назад +3

    All I need is for the new lantern to say is “are we green” 🤣

  • @thefacelessquestion3333
    @thefacelessquestion3333 3 года назад +3

    I appreciate the "rant" cause there's been some issues over the years that vexed alotta fans and Arris put em in "let's see how it pans out" category...thanks for saying how d fans feel.

  • @kevinbaboolal4225
    @kevinbaboolal4225 3 года назад +82

    DC: *gets woke and loses money*
    Fans: Stop ruining our beloved characters and stories
    DC: *does it again*
    Fans: How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?

    • @clankypick8178
      @clankypick8178 3 года назад +4

      I wouldn’t call this being “woke”, just a bad example of telling instead of showing. But hey that’s just me, everyone’s entitled to their own opinions after all

    • @kappadarwin9476
      @kappadarwin9476 3 года назад +1

      I like the fact that they are starting something new.

    • @mansaurus_wrex
      @mansaurus_wrex 3 года назад +1

      the problem isn’t “getting woke” the problem is, always has been, and always will be cheap/lazy/uninspired storytelling

    • @erkziltonz
      @erkziltonz 3 года назад +1

      Shits just lazy, make new characters of different races and genders. Just swapping existing ones is a slap in the face to their fans.

    • @clutchcake7717
      @clutchcake7717 3 года назад

      @@mansaurus_wrex sure about? tokenism stikes again.

  • @FittedSheetGaming
    @FittedSheetGaming 3 года назад +56

    Comics are so damn confusing.
    If you need to tell people youre the king, you're not really the king

  • @animeview101
    @animeview101 3 года назад

    See this is why I love your stuff that Monologue about the new green lantern being the best detective just made me smile
    The soft spot though haha gold

  • @Zaxnafein
    @Zaxnafein 3 года назад

    Nice shirt! I liked the point you made at 5:24

  • @Nic123400
    @Nic123400 3 года назад +9

    Isn’t that just a pompadour not exactly the only two people to have that haircut

  • @Philosophical24
    @Philosophical24 3 года назад +3

    7:31 no Arris don’t apologize! We need more of your raw honest opinions! I completely agree with you

  • @olguineb38
    @olguineb38 Год назад +2

    You were right to rant. I agree with you.
    Also can you please do an origin/history video on the Hyper Clan?

  • @thedeepest3803
    @thedeepest3803 3 года назад

    Loved the rant!!! Straight facts!!!

  • @SuperGamefreak18
    @SuperGamefreak18 3 года назад +28

    Hey bruce is the best detective in the omniverse not the universe also let's not forget that mr terrific and with some of the other big guns now operate multiversal now apparently

  • @siddharthabarmanmugdha8869
    @siddharthabarmanmugdha8869 3 года назад +57

    This comic in a nutshell,
    Making Bruce Wayne batman look bad

    • @Tunobe86
      @Tunobe86 3 года назад +9

      And we all know what's the real goal there...

  • @lakshmikanthpadayachi508
    @lakshmikanthpadayachi508 3 года назад

    Man we love your rants and your personal thoughts keep doing that 🙏🏼 and too many new characters can't relate that much in time where people attention span is similar to of a goldfish so it worked in the past for flash and green lantern but I skeptical for them should have gone with least similar characters or should have surrounded with them.

  • @4713Dave
    @4713Dave 3 года назад

    Thank you Arris!!! I was literally thinking exactly about your rant! Truly justified!!!

  • @soruyo210
    @soruyo210 3 года назад +4

    Thumbs up for the rant, valid points
    Also 10:20, hilarious

  • @JavierHernandez-lo6cn
    @JavierHernandez-lo6cn 3 года назад +46

    Second person, Variant nation, where the likes at, this future justice league is a trip.

  • @Whxterose8060
    @Whxterose8060 3 года назад

    Perfectly said in your rant

  • @ideamaker
    @ideamaker 3 года назад +11

    Mr. Quinones of Variant Comics, even though I'm a mix of various nationality including a couple of minorities, it doesn't take away my appreciation for the source material of various comics both DC and Marvel that began with (let's be honest) strictly white superheroes! Sure, later on they introduced some token minority characters almost as an afterthought, but it was never their intention to highlight anyone who wasn't their own skin color or gender, even Mr. Disney turned away women from trying to work with him, it was a crazy time. But now it's like the pendulum is swinging the other way, and they're all bending over backwards to out do each other, and prove that they're more tolerant than anyone else. Is it surprising that a black female Green Lantern is the best detective in the multiverse, or that a black Batman is the first Batman to truly save Gotham? No, not when all that matters is showing that they're more woke than anyone else! Frankly, I find this whole matter disgusting! First we didn't even exist, we were completely invisible, and now we're the best and the greatest, go figure. It's insane! By making these characters so, "Mary Sue" it's almost as if the comic book companies themselves were doing everything they could to purposely make us, the general public, hate these new minority characters, like they wanted these characters to fail on purpose? Is that why they write them as upstarts supplanting our already favorite characters? Makes you wonder huh?

    • @yiklongtay6029
      @yiklongtay6029 2 года назад +2

      I think that future state is a great opportunity to try out diverse new characters. We know that this is likely a non-canon future. It's certainty is around the same as that Terry Batman's canon. Totally cool with me. Flash and GL in this canon is cool in my opinion. But Black Batman and Brazilian Yara felt painfully artificial to me since we already have legacy characters who can fit like Tim, Damien, and Cassie. The potential for a Jon-Damien dynamic is painfully sacrificed just so that we can have Tim Fox.

    • @chokoricco2712
      @chokoricco2712 2 года назад

      ​@@yiklongtay6029 ​ DC will introduce characters of color as a diversity ploy but never fully develop them. wish they chose damien for batman, he woulda still been a diverse choice as he is half arab but writers always whitewash him and talia

  • @zazanjuice69
    @zazanjuice69 3 года назад +4

    Love this channel definitely my top 3

  • @SA-pg3hz
    @SA-pg3hz 3 года назад +5

    Can you do a video on the elongated man?

  • @anthonymassallo8130
    @anthonymassallo8130 3 года назад

    100% with your thoughts Arris🙏

  • @davidtop8989
    @davidtop8989 3 года назад

    Arris, thanks for pointing this out. The subject of your critique is justified. In fact, this would be a sore spot for any professional fiction writer or novelist, because it breaks the #1 universal rule of all good fiction writing: don't say it, show it! The fact that you mention it shows that somewhere in the back of your head, you have acquired an understanding some of the basic for what makes quality literature. Bravo!