What Do BELGIANS Think Of The DUTCH?
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- Опубликовано: 23 окт 2022
- I've heard so much about what the Dutch think of Belgians, it was time I crossed the border to get the other side of the story. Check out the video to see the responses!
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Belgium is like a younger sibling to the Dutch. We tease them a little, but it's family. We will always stand by them.
In my experiences with Belgians, I often get the feeling that they distrust me as a Dutchman. They are reserved and sometimes I get the feeling they are rather underhanded. People like in this video I have only rarely come across, a pity, a real pity.
Wie is 'we'? ... Ik sluit me hier niet bij aan. Belgen heb je niks aan.
Definitely! I feel like mostly the south of the Netherlands feels this way cause we're closer to eachother, idk about the rest of the Netherlands though. Honestly if we have beef with anyone, I think Germany falls into that category more than Belgium. Because of the 2 wars they started 😬 I know a lot of older people especially don't trust Germans.. I've only heard good things about Belgians though and if they weren't good, they were just mean jokes but I've never met anyone who seriously hates Belgians or anything. I'd rather not associate with people like that anyways.
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Belgische mensen niks mis mee🧡
Strijder! Alles in het Nederlands, bro zo ziek om te zien dat je zo je best doet voor onze taal/cultuur
Dankjewel man!!
Ik kwam hier ook om dit te zeggen. Respect!
BRO ZO ZIEK...is deels geen Nederlands en ZIEK is een slecht woord om te gebruiken ipv goed. Let een beetje op de Nederlandse taal. Straattaal is echt cultuur verarming
@@monicacarolina6480 ach houd je mond toch. Wat een pretverpester ben jij.
@@drvissierl1404 eh nee, ik ben direct. Bro en ziek gebruiken in plaats van goed is taal verloedering. Zieke mensen verpleeg ik op de ICU. En niet zo persoonlijk worden he professor. Niet netjes.
I'm not gonna lie, with all the jokes about Belgians we've got here I lowkey expected the roasting of a lifetime :') But this is so wholesome...
Don't worry, the Belgians have plenty of jokes about us too ;-)
@@AnimalDreams86 Oh no doubt :p Also I had a Flemish friend over once so I thought we'd order some vlaamse friet. That day I witnessed a 10 minute roasting session about its thickness, consistency, and general lack of darkness on the crust xD Turns out what we call vlaamse friet here most the time is just potato slices cus it's not even made right :p
@@reznovvazileski3193 if there is something we Belgians know something about it fries so yes hehe
Broer kom west vlaanderen hier wonen eerlijke en open mensen MET gevoel voor humor en zonder kut antwerps accent.
Lmao so True.. but personaly i like belgians there nice and open but we do Def roast them a lot 😂
Dude your Dutch is great, the fact that you can understand Belgians is awesome, their accent is very different from the Dutch we speak in the Netherlands, so props to you for understanding both!
Thank you, Eleni!! :)
zo anders is het nou ook weer niet, ik denk dat elke nederlander belgisch kan verstaan
@@tikket10 Ja, maar Nederlands is niet zijn moedertaal. Het is best knap dat hij hun kan volgen, want accenten en dialecten verstaan en onderscheiden van een taal die niet je moedertaal is, is best moeilijk.
@@tikket10 West Vlaams of plat Antwerps versta je als Nederlander over het algemeen toch veel moeilijker hoor!
@@niencat
Klopt, maar dan spreken we niet meer over de taal, "Nederlands", maar over dialecten.
Onze dialecten worden nog vrij verbreid gesproken, omdat ons land nog niet zolang onafhankelijk is en Nederlands zelfs bij de onafhankelijkheid van België (1830) geen officiële taal was.
Dat was namelijk het Frans.
Ook Nederland kent z'n dialecten, maar doordat Nederland al veel langer "het Nederlands" als officiële taal hanteerde, is het natuurlijk al veel beter ingeburgerd en zijn de dialecten weggekwijnd.
Het is mijn overtuiging dat we het overleven van onze taal, ondanks de eeuwenlange bezetting van vreemde mogendheden, aan onze dialecten te danken hebben, die onze voorouders hardnekkig bleven spreken, ongeacht wie er regeerde.
Het heeft een tijdje geduurd, maar dat heeft zelfs de onafhankelijke Belgische (oorspronkelijk Franstalige) staat moeten ervaren en uiteindelijk aanvaarden.
Interessant is op Wikipedia het artikel over de "Geschiedenis van het Nederlands".
Een aanrader, zowel voor Nederlanders als Vlamingen.
Wat leuk om zulke positieve dingen te horen van onze zuiderburen, de waardering is wederzijds!
Als belg: Mijn ervaringen van nederland zijn altijd positief. Het zijn fijne mensen, en ik probeer die directe houding aan te leren. We blijven uiteindelijk broeders
I was pleasantly surprised by the positive opinions of the Belgian people interviewed in Antwerp about their northern neighbors.
I must say it puts the Belgians in a very flattering and endearing light.
I can't help but wonder if one would get the same kind of response in Brussels or Wallonia.
I myself am a white Caribbean man from Curaçao where we have a more complicated relationship and opinion about the Dutch.
I love the Netherlands.
I lived for 15 years in Amsterdam. People were often perplexed by my strange accent and European looks.
I can't count the times I was asked whether I'm Belgian or Scandinavian.
Then I would tell them I'm Caribbean.
By the way, I personally love Belgium and the Belgians. My experience as a tourist in Belgium is very positive.
Brugge and Ghent are two of the most beautiful cities I know.
Tuurlijk zijn de Brusselaars en Walen even vriendelijk voor Nederlanders! We zijn allemaal broers en zusters!
@@718YellowSubmarine De Brusselaars en Walen zijn onnozelaars
I'm from Wallonia and I love Vlaanderen and the Netherlands but I'll give to you that it might not be the popular opinion but still. I'm trying to learn a bunch of languages and improve my nederlands because I haven't practiced it in a while
They were just polite, nothing more.
Als introverte Brabander (Nederland) voel ik me altijd zoveel chiller in Vlaanderen dan in bijvoorbeeld de Randstad. Vlamingen zijn zoveel rustiger en er is veel minder sociale druk om leuk en interessant te doen.
Rotterdam is het met u eens ! 😉
Ah, precies wat ik ook dacht!
Ben zelf ook meer introvert.
Heb het idee dat de 'directheid' vooral van de randstad/Hollanders komt.
Hier in de Achterhoek zijn we over het algemeen ook meer gemoedelijker en 'kat uit de boom kijkend'.
Wellicht zijn ze in de randstad meer extravert.
I've spent a lot of time in Belgium as a Dutch man. Met people at a festival I'm friends with to this day back in 2009. I have to say, I think Dutch openness is really a "script". I think that the Dutch are completely open to engage with new people... insofar the script permits, as the Dutch are very consensus-oriented people. When I was in Belgium once asking directions, I walked up to a group of Flemish people in Ghent and just asked them, and they were somewhat startled at first. And once they knew my intentions, they lit up and answered. I think that's a pretty decent analogy for how Belgian people are with you. You do have to cross a longer birdge to reach them, but once you do, you're also less likely to be kept at arm's length once there. The Dutch are more open in public, but more reserved in private.
Yeah, I've read so many stories of foreign students coming to the Netherlands and having a very hard time making Dutch friends. To be honest though, it's not like being Dutch suddenly makes that easier. It's just that we tend to settle on our friends quite early in our lives.
Goeie content, vooral die Belgische jongen die het Nederlandse accent grappig vond was interessant. Dat is hoe veel Nederlanders inderdaad ook over het Belgische accent denken.
En als Randstad Nederlander kan ik sommige zware Nederlandse accenten ook niet verstaan, maar dat geldt ook voor Belgische accenten als bijvoorbeeld West-Vlaams.
Dankjewel, Fark! En ja, ik vond die deel over de accent heel grappig.
Toch is het woordenboek
(of dictionaire) altijd hetzelfde, dus overeenkomstig geweest.
Pas vanaf de late middeleeuwen verschijnen dialect en accent invloeden ...
Maar elk stam-woord is weldegelijk hetzelfde; alleen de uitspraak is streek gevoelig.
@@jsb7975 het grote verschil is dat in Vlaams Nederlands je meer Franse woorden of letterlijk vertaalde Franse woorden tegen komt. Waar in Nederland dat minder sterk is.
Maar ook de betekenis van een woord kan echt iets anders zijn.
@@sirBrouwer Vooral de betekenis van het woord "poepen" is cruciaal.
@@sutreB ik weet niet of je het in beide gevallen veel over hebt in het algemeen. Voor mij was vooral het woord "stappen" een bron van onduidelijkheden. Daar Nederlanders bedoelen om langs de kroegen te gaan en lekker drinken. Stond ik toch wel te kijken dat men in België al om 9.00 naar het centrum wouden gaan stappen.
As a Belgian in Amsterdam, it was more of a culture shock than I expected. Especially the agenda, how to make friends. It is true that we are a bit more closed, reserved, 'de kat uit de boom kijkend'. But now, when I go back to Belgium, I come across as very opinionated :) also, I read that when girls grow up they learn to speak in a certain pitch, and Dutch women speak in a lower pitch than Flemish women. Si fe living here I have adapted the pitch of my voice, because not being as tall and with a high voice, it was hard to be taken seriously 😆
Belgian here who moved to the Netherlands over a decade ago, I had to seriously up my talking volume here 😂
@@Aylasuki haha, I had the same. And I have to ramp up my level of enthusiasm: where is Belgium everything is 'OK, tof, fijn, plezant', here it is 'zooooo leuk, heeeel gezellig, hartstikke goed' :)
@@anncassano2876 haha yes exactly! People would often not hear/understand me, also because of the accent I guess, in turn I had trouble following them when they spoke fast.
Interesting! Haha
@@Aylasuki Haha yea maybe that's why your accents sound so much more timid than ours :p You guys don't need to sound like Gandalf's "you shall not pass" to get through in a group convo :p
Thanks Vlaanderen! De eerste 2 woorden die bij mij door m’n hoofd gingen toen ik de titel zag waren: “gierig en arrogant” daarna pas direct 😅
Ben blij dat jullie toch nog zo positief zijn! 😃
Dat arrogante herken ik wel. Dat gierige is betrekkelijk vind ik, beetje achterhaald cliché. Maar ik woon in Brabant, dat scheelt misschien.
@@HenkvanMierlo ik ga er vanuit dat je “Noord” Brabant bedoeld…
De enige Belgen die mij arrogant zien doen dat zijn alleen de Walen! 😁
Belgen zijn net zo gierig als Nederlanders. Als zij iets gratis kunnen krijgen, staan ze ook vooraan in de rij. Nederlanders komen er echter wel eerlijk voor uit als ze gierig zijn, ze proberen het niet te verhullen. 😉
@@ronaldvanhemiksem3544 dan kom je toch weer uit bij: “Nederlanders zijn directer”
Ja als ik in nederland rondloop kan ik meer mezelf zijn dan hier in vlaanderen. Hier moet je je meer aan een etikette houden maar het is toch niet zo erg als in andere landen. Valt nog mee
We joke about each other when we're in holland or belgium. But best believe we're best friends when we meet abroad
Btw your dutch is really solid keep it up 💪
Haha leuk! En dankjewel voor de compliment over mijn nederlands! :)
@@exploringtheforeign "Het" and "dat" are used for words without a gender (neuter in English/onzijdig in Dutch), and "de" and "die" are used for feminine (vrouwelijke) or masculine (mannelijke) words. 👍
Nederlanders zullen altijd mijn vrienden zijn. Veel liefde van Limburg!!
Het is goed dat België tussen Nederland en Frankrijk ligt, anders hadden we al lang al ruzie met de Franzosen gehad. Leuke Video. Ik hou van België !
Dat is letterlijk de reden waarom Belgie bestaat sinds 1815-1830. Anders had het een provincie van NL of Fra geweest.
Being Dutch myself, it's lovely to see this video! Thank you for you content.
Thank you for watching and for the positive feedback! :)
The Dutch love Belgium. Beautiful country, very friendly people in general, best beers in the world. Love from The Netherlands! 💙
You are quite right about beer. The best beers in the world come from Belgium!
Totally.
Het marginale boertige gedrag en het hoge decibel gehalte van Nederlandse jongeren en soms ouder die in België komen citytrippen storen me mateloos. Los van dit heb ik wel persoonlijk veel opgestoken van het open en directe karakter van mijn Noorderburen. Het land en de mensen zijn een inspiratiebron voor mij. 👍
Ik voel met je mee. Ben Rotterdammer en erger me ook aan het quasi spontane gedrag van de jeugd. Maar ja, sunt pueri pueri, pueri puerilia tractant.
Dan ervaart u hetzelfde als vele Amsterdammers als er weer eens een grote groep Engelse jongeren komen citytrippen in Amsterdam.
Goed gedaan Sam! Je maakt de wereld weer een stukje positiever 🙌😁
Thank you for this interesting video! We live in the Netherlands and we wondered what Belgians thing about the Dutch....... Hugs from Almere!
Thank you for watching and I'm glad you found it interesting! You also make great videos! Really cool to see you here
Love the positive vibes you spread man! Very cool to see you speaking dutch so much too
Dankjewel Steven!!
Enjoyed this video a lot. Also impressed by how you're able to understand the differences in accents so easily considering how far apart the accents can be!! This was a fun video! Also, love you seeing living your best life in the lowlands~!
Wow! Thank you! Really appreciate this :)
Je spreekt echt al goed Nederlands!! Ga zo door met je video’s ze zijn echt leuk!!💯💯💯
Dankjewel!!!
Bro i had a lot of fun watching this video, i rlly respect that u spoke dutch to everyone and respect everyones opinion . Gret video man, u got a like and a sub ;)
They all love us and we love them.
Love to read this!
Belgium people, nothing but respect for them ! And although we're kinda different, we're grosso modo the same..., kind of 2 kids within 1 family: 2 brothers, or 2 sisters or brother and sister, but yet from the same parents ! Belgium (Vlaanderen in ieder geval) feels like visiting your favorit aunt you know your whole life, that also goes for the German part of Belgium near Sankt Vith.
Belgen zijn geweldig ! Rode Duivels...Go! --> You'll probably will have to look this up to be able to understand what I am saying here ;-)
Ik versstaande alles behalve de rode duivels haha
@@exploringtheforeign De Rode Duivels (The Red Devils): Belgium national football team (Belgisch voetbalelftal) 🤘👍
Ah leuk!
While I like Belgium and its inhabitants a lot, I do not feel like they are our brothers or family. I have that with no country at all (could be me) but from all countries I have been to Denmark and the Danes were most similar and I also noted that with Danes that I worked with in NL. They are really like a twin brother that I never knew existed.
You make videos that are great to watch, Sam. They have such a positive vibe. Great work!
Thank you! Really appreciate that.
Love it! Thanks man!
Respect man, dat je het vertrouwen hebt om mensen volledig in het nederlands te interviewen. Blijven gaan! Ook interessant om te zien, aangezien ik uit Antwerpen kom en sinds kort in Amsterdam woon + werk. 😃
Dankjewel, Max! Hoe vindt je het in Amsterdam?
Weer erg goed gedaan en je Nederlands gaat echt rap vooruit, echt mooi om te horen 👍🏾👍🏾
Dankjewel!
Really cool video man, love your perspective and content. Greetings from a half Dutch / half Belgian guy from Rotterdam 👋
Thank you, man! :)
You have such a lovely energy and smile!! Fantastic video, I’m so glad I found your channel!!🎉🎉
Aw, thank you! I really appreciate that😀
What a lovely vid! Your filming skills are great. Enjoyed this very much…love the elegant Belgians!
I appreciate that, Ingrid! The lighting was really bright and I didn't properly adjust for that in certain shots haha, but that's just me being picky on myself. I'm glad you enjoyed, though!
@@exploringtheforeign I think what I enjoy most is that the scenes are easy on the eye; as if we are looking through your eyes. Not to much at once. Great job 👏
Thank you! I'll keep that in mind for future filming for sure :)
Love your content bro keep it up! Cross culture really interests me! Especially this video was interesting for me as a Dutch person who used to live and go to school in Belgium. In general I think Belgians have a hard(er) time to adapt to or accept Dutch persons as they're just that more direct indeed. It seems younger generations from both countries are getting more alike though!
Thank you and thank you for your observations!
I visited both countries and I heard so many funny stories from both sides. Such cool video. 👍🏼
Thank you!
As a belgian I think one of the biggest reasons we are more timid, not so outspoken and not as proud as French, Dutch, Germans, etc.. is because we always struggled with our identity, we've been ruled over so many times through history (by the dutch, by the spanish, by the french, etc) and only "recently" turned into our own country created by the English as a buffer between the European powerhouses (we have the Dutch to our north, Germans to our east, french in the south and english in the west). And even then we got fucked over in both world wars.
All of that combined with 3 official languages in 1 country makes that the majority of us dont have a strong connection with our country and monarchy (except when our national team plays football)
The Francophones don't mind being west and south in contact with France, they even accept the French cultural domination like any other region of France : its normal when people speak exactly the same language wether in Lille, Bruxelles, Paris or Liège.
The Flanders / Netherlands relationship is a more distant relationship... let's not have any denial on facts.
super video weer! altijd genieten met exploring the foreign
Dankjewel!!
I come from the Netherland and I love my southern neighbours. The countryside is beautiful and unique, the peolple are nice and very soft (in a friendly way) and the cities are very clean. (The roads are horrible though. Sorry) much love you frieteters❤️
The thing here in Belgium is that most Belgians will try to say it in a very nice way while being more blunt when saying it behind your back! :P And by the way, MANY zoomers or other young people are VERY DIRECT!
Leuke video! En bedankt zuider buurtjes ik kom ook graag bij jullie 😘
Ik weet niet hoelang je al Nederlands aan het leren bent, maar je uitspraak is heel goed. Leuke video ook!
Dank je wel :)
Dankjewel! Ik woon nu 2 jaar in Nederland :)
great video mate, well done 🙂
Honestly, i think there are few countries that have closer ties than we do. In all aspects of life. We make fun of eachother and may "fight" like siblings, but we will always have eachothers back if an outsider picks on any one of us. I can accept being mocked by the dutch from time to time, coz thats family , it's all good fun, but any one else doing it will have a very bad day 😂. I think the swedes and danes have a similar vibe going on if i'm not mistaken. ✌️❤️🇧🇪🇳🇱
I would love to say the same, but I have come across too many Belgians that could not stand it when a Dutchman or our Dutch national team did very well in championships. It might be a small subset of Belgians and it is indeed confined to sports but what I witnessed was not just a healthy rivalry, they resented that we did better than them. May be it is subsiding and it is reminescent of how we Dutch envied (if that is it) the Germans for always beating us or when they again became Weltmeister...This is something unknown from NL towards Belgium. I day to day life I have again only positive things to say about Belgians.
echt cool dat je zo je best doet om onze taal/cultuur te leren. je klinkt fucking goed man💪💪
Dankjewel! :)
Weer een super filmpje Sam. Ik blijf me verbazen hoe sympathiek en authentiek je blijft waar je ook bent. Ik persoonlijk heb niet veel ervaring met Belgische mensen. Rij vaker naar het oosten dan naar het zuiden. Ben heel lang geleden een keer in Antwerpen en in Knokke geweest. Leuke tijd gehad dus prima. Had wel altijd het idee dat Belgische mensen de Nederlanders maar arrogant en luidruchtig vinden. Vooroordeel blijkbaar.
Hartstikke bedankt! Ik vind het heel leuk om deze video's te maken, dus ik ben blij dat je ze ben geniten!
As dutch we love the belgium people, so kind, open and polite, as Dutch we appreciate our southern family!
Super leuke video! Knap ook dat je zoveel al in het Nederlands de dialoog aan gaat!
Ik vind België zelf een prachtig land met hele fijne mensen. Je moet ze wel even de kans geven om zich op hun gemak te doen voelen en te laten ontdooien :)
Ik vind het Vlaams zelf mooier en rijker dan het Nederlands maar ik hou wel erg van onze nuchtere cultuur.
Dankjewel! :) En dankjewel voor het kijken!
We zijn een beetje als die twee zussen, we zijn te lang gescheiden gebleven.
Lees ook eens op Wikipedia "Geschiedenis van het Nederlands".
Zeer interessant, zowel voor Nederlanders als Vlamingen.
Beste kerstwensen vanuit Vlaanderen.
@@rvdb8876 Dat zal ik doen! :) dankuwel voor uw suggestie, en ook vanuit hier de hartelijke wensen voor de feestdagen!
SHOUT OUT TO YOU DOING THIS IN DUTCH! Love it
Dankjewel! :)
Wow! Another interesting insight video.
An American inquiring in Belgium on their opinion of the Dutch.
I have Belgian friends, who I dearly love to have around. Once a year, January, I go to the „soldes" (sale) in Antwerp.
It's funny hearing the Brazilian Belgian saying the Dutch have a funny accent. I love the Belgian accent. It makes me mellow. They sound so sweet. They are regarded overpolite, since they use the formal „u" while in the Netherlands we use „jij" for regular conversation, while "u" is used for elder and higher ranked or people you do not know.
You use „jij / jou" constantly since in English there is no distinction.
I took my Belgian people to Dutch parties, and I went with them to Belgian parties.
They told me that Belgians anxiously await the arrival of Dutch people, since they will get the parties started.
The Dutch have no reservations, so they talk, they dance, they drink, while the Belgians tend to be way more aloof.
🎊💃🎉🕺👯
Belgians don’t like people from Antwerp, the Dutch do like Antwerp a lot. Maybe there is a different type of bond between Antwerp and the Netherlands, than with the rest of Belgium. At least that’s my experience when talking to Belgians.
The Belgians hating on Antwerp is just meant as a joke tho. I'm from West-Vlaanderen, and love Antwerp.
I'm from Antwerp. The stereotype about people here is that we are arrogant. This is only partly true (to some extend). I think this is because we also have a certain directness which is more like the Dutch. So maybe this is why. I spend alot of time in the Netherlands. Mostly for music festivals and i always get along very well with the Dutch. Their "directness" doens't feel very rude to me. I guess because i'm more used to it than the rest of Belgium. Its also pretty close to the border. From where i live i could be in the Netherlands in 15-20 minutes.
This video is so stuffed with positivity it turned around even my cynical self for a moment. It's great to see such compatriotism between close neighbours. Belgians curse at Dutch people for being rude and loud, Dutch people call Belgians lazy, but at the end of the day if asked directly, there's a great sense of respect between the two.
We don't call them lazy, we call them dumb. Just a little detail.
@@Widdekuu91 hahaha okee.. maar serieus niemand die dit echt gelooft, gewoon oude grapjes, soort van buren rivaliteit. Nederlanders houden van Belgen en van Belgische humor. Belgen nemen zichzelf wat minder serieus vind ik.
Great content!
Thank you!
Leuk hoor! Het is grappig om te merken dat mensen in het buitenland Nederlanders zo direct vinden terwijl het van mij nog wel wat directer mag 😁 ik hou ervan, niet moeilijk doen en je hoeft niet te raden naar bedoelingen en of iemand je aardig vind of niet, helemaal fijn.
As a Dutch guy I’ve got nothing but love for the Belgian people
That intro 🔥 banger again 🙌
Thank you, Freek! 😁 That was one of my favorite parts haha glad you liked that
The Dutch are indeed very upfront, which can be good but sometimes it's not appreciated, and I noticed that about myself too haha since some of my family aren't from the Netherlands😅😅
Also, I was impressed at how you understand them so well when other non-native speakers find it very difficult. Because accents and dialects are difficult to distinguish or understand if you have not learned the language from an early age. For example, many people here in the Netherlands think that accents from Limburg and Brabant sound the same, but that is not true. Or that people from the north are unintelligible. So it's pretty cool that you can follow them so well, it shows how long you've been in the Netherlands. Great content and I hope you continue showing the world your journey and interviews😊😊
In the Netherlands, from a young age, they teach us to speak up. As soon as you enter school at 4yo every Monday you're expected to summarize your weekend in front of the entire class. Later on you're asked/tasked to form opinions about different subjects rather than just learning about them.
This here. Now I don't know if this is a global thing or just my middle school because I only went to one middle school but... Schools here have "maatschappijleer" which to those not in the know is basically everything related to current day politics and socially acceptable practice in society. The norms and values of the world around us so to speak. But what I loved about how we did the subject is that they basically told everyone, as long as you can properly vocalize and support your opinion it can not be graded as wrong on tests. So say there's a politician and you absolutely hate their guts. Now if on a test you're like oh yea fck him because he's a big fat poopy face, yea alright that's a fail even if the teacher hates him as well. But if the teacher loves the dude and you say I dislike him because he has a and b and c policy and that hurts the way I or my friends or parents want to live life, instant points no matter how much the teacher disagrees with you. It's been pretty encouraging to voice my opinion on things but also to properly sit down and see how I want to voice it because it truly does matter when you disagree about something whether you can do so calmly and respectfully.
@@reznovvazileski3193 Yep XD. I remember when Islam was the topic. The teacher started saying lies/mistakes and I felt like I had to step up and correct him. We had a civil discussion and I pointed out his mistakes by displaying the contrary showing evidence from our scriptures. We even had discussion about homosexuality. You really learn that it is okay to have an opinion, vocalize it and agree to disagree as long as you maintain respect for each other.
I hope the room for discussion will always be present. I feel like it is disappearing and slowly replaced for blind indoctrination.
@@moslimislam5714 Yeah idk what happened but somewhere along the way many people fell to the fallacy that only 1 opinion can be correct at a time. Though obviously for two entirely different people two entirely different things are going to be objectively better to their lives. So their opinions are going to differ and both be correct in their own perspective already that way. This is why being adult enough to agree that you can't see things the same is so important for a functioning society. More so even now everyone can voice their opinion to the entire world in 3 seconds.
It's the same (well, it *was* the same but no longer) in the US, going back a long time. I'm in my early 40s; as a child my family lived in every region of the US and I remember that summarizing your weekend in front of the class used to be common/standard practice in primary schools across the country, no matter the region, religious affiliation, political leanings, student demographics or socioeconomic status of the school. It was simply a matter of greater societal values (encouraging public/social assertiveness, individualism, etc.) and "this is what we do as Americans". I don't know when it went out of style, I just remember learning (as an adult) that it's rarely done in public schools anymore.
Another practice that used to be common/standard (but that I learned is also increasingly rare now) in American public primary schools is Show & Tell (where you bring in a special object or pet from your personal life and give the class a presentation on it to display what your interests and opinions are- a first lesson in public speaking). My family also lived in/on 11 other countries and islands around the world; when I started a new school in the Philippines I excitedly asked my teacher when the next Show & Tell was going to be and she was shocked- she couldn't understand why I would want to do something so "flashy" and "ungracious".
... I can totally understand how Belgians would feel mortified by these kinds of cultural differences, given their values and temperaments.
Hahaha! Well tbh I have lived in Flanders for some years, I had a job and a Flemish boyfriend there, and they won't say it to your face but quite a few Flemish are not very fond of the Dutch! But of course they will NEVER tell you this on camera 😆😆
Aw haha, I told everyone before they answered that they could say whatever, whether good or bad. I hope they weren't holding back haha.
I'm afraid there's some truth in it.
Still most Dutch have no clue. (And in that case at least you gotta love the Dutch...)
I thought the same.. there might be some confounding bias in this. With Belgians being less direct, they therefore probably instinctively give the more socially acceptable (positive) answers, maybe even unknowingly to themselves. It could be so culturally ingrained that they think they answer honestly, but might later reflect and only then remember the negative things they also could’ve added.
Now I don’t know if this is the case, but it could be.
@@Catgirl6Poezebeest Veel Nederlanders die in België wonen hebben ervaring met uitgescholden worden voor "arrogante Hollanders". De Nederlanders bestaat niet, teveel verschil tussen iemand uit de Randstad met bijvoorbeeld iemand uit Friesland of Twente.
@@henriettebrouwer8193 haha, ja, zo praatten wij vroeger in Zuid-Limburg ook over die ‘Huilanders’ in het Noorden (oftewel alles boven Eindhoven/buiten Limburg) 😂. Inmiddels woon ik al jaren boven de rivieren (dankzij de liefde, studie en werk), dus kan het nu niet meer zeggen 😆
Looking forward to your Wallonian experience ;-P
Wat een leuke video. Ik ben best verrast door de positieve reacties, ik dacht altijd dat Belgen een beetje een hekel aan ons hadden. Wat heb je een leuk kanaal en wat spreek je goed Nederlands! Ik ben fan ❤
Ik was ook verrast door de positieve reacties! En dankjewel! Ik hoop dat je alle volgende video's ook leuk vindt :)
Hij gaat dan ook naar Antwerpen om aan Belgen te vragen wat ze van Nederland(ers) vinden... Antwerpenaren zijn de Nederlanders van de Vlamingen : ze zijn zelf arrogant en luidruchtig. Als je in eender welke andere Vlaamse stad zou vragen wat de mensen vinden van Nederlanders en van Antwerpenaren, zal je vaak dezelfde antwoorden krijgen.
Maar je kan het misschien nog het beste vergelijken met de relatie tussen de USA en Canada, jullie maken ook grapjes over elkaar, spreken dezelfde taal, maar in het buurland spreken ze ook nog Frans en als puntje bij paaltje komt zijn jullie 2 handen op 1 buik.
Hahahaha dat is juist het grote verschil Nederlanders zeggen het gewoon wat ze vinden en de Vlamingen zeggen iets of niets maar denken echt anders over ons vaak negatief maar misschien veranderen ze een beetje. De grensstreek weet dat de rest van Nederland niet.
Lovely video!
Thank you!
Cute video Sam !! Your Dutch is excellent ! 💕🌷👍
Thank you, Yvonne!
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@Marcel De Vries what? lol
@@exploringtheforeign a joke 😂
I respect you speaking Dutch in these interviews. Goed bezig!
Dankjewel!
ik ben vrij verbaasd dat het woord "kaaskop" geen enkele keer is voor gekomen in de video. misschien heb ik toch de foute impressie op mijn eigen volk! bedankt voor de leuke video!
I love those videos, for real for real
Thank you!
AGAIN another nice video👍🏾
So true the food in Belgium is DELICIOUS !!!!😁
Thank you!
I have to say I did not expect the Belgians to be so positive about us. Maar het is wederzijds! Ik ben gek op België, en jullie maken het beste bier ter wereld!
Hey Sam, I've introduced you to your fellow American Rini from the Rini Abroad RUclips Channel, since she came to The Netherlands all by herself one month ago and she's ended up in Noord-Brabant; just like you ! Everything really is new to her, so since you've done this al before, maybe you can help her out a little bit. (This is how we do this in The Netherlands ;-)
Hey, awesome! If she reaches out I'm more than happy to help!
Ik zal het maar "recht voor zijn raap" zeggen... je maakt leuke filmpjes! Leuk om te zien hoe andere mensen over Nederlanders denken.
Dankjewel, Arthur!!
sick show bro remember me when you are famous!
haha
To me this was really surprising. I'd have thought they would think the Dutch are loud and rude. I find the Belgians much more polite. But then again... that maybe just the reason for their comments, they are to nice and polite to say something negative! ;) (I'm Dutch btw)
Haha yeah I was surprised as well with all of the positivity (not that I don't think the Dutch are good people, I just didn't expect most things to be nice)
i agree, the Belgian people i have met in my travels are much more polite and friendly than the Dutch. (I am Dutch myself). And their accent is really so soft and sweet.
They do think we're loud and rude. It's just that they have found a way of saying so without being rude but we're a bit too "direct" to pick up on that.
@@13tuyuti Yes, that is what I meant. (with the risk of being rude) 😂
Belgian here, I still remember how my first boss was really annoyed with people from Dutch companies. We had a more formal style, if you mailed people you didn' t know, you adressed them by mr/ms 'surname', definetely when they have higher up positions. He got mails from Dutch low level employees starting mails with "Hi Luc'. We definetely wouldn't adress the CEO of another company by the first name.
You should have asked a police officer. I know some that work near the border and they complain that Dutch people always ask 'waarom'. 'Alleh jongen waarom moeten die ametanterikken altij commentaar hebben', But honestly I'm surprised by the positive reactions even though I worked in Belgium 2 years. One thing I also heard a lot is that the Netherlands are much better organized.
Really nice video, Sam! 😄 We houden van Vlaanderen! 😊😁
Dankjewel!!😁 ik hoop dat alles goed is met jullie!
just a question that popped up in my mind while watching the video… don’t you use the “u/uw” version in Dutch instead of “je/jouw” while you’re interviewing people (and elders specially)? Or do you ask first the person if it’s ok to refer to them as “je”?
I’m asking that since most of the times someone will come over as rude to them if you just choose to refer to them as “je” and asume they feel comfortable that way.
There are many cases as well were they actually love being refer as “je/jouw” so it’s always a 50/50 chance that I’m still struggling with hahaha😅
Either way, thank u so much for the video! Super interesting☺️
A few years ago I attended an American Square Dance jamboree in Brussels and we were dancing in the Grand Place along with [I think] two German couples and a Dutch couple; while waiting for the music to start, the Dutch couple were telling us "Belgian" jokes LOL
Super leuke video, zoals altijd!
Als ik een tip mag geven op je Nederlands. Het is misschien iets netter om onbekende mensen met U aan te spreken in plaats van jij.
Keep up the good work!!
Dankjewel! En dankjewel voor de tip, ik ben slecht met die herinneren.
While doing one learns!
Love the video's.
Appreciate it, more on the way!
Especially in Belgium!
@@bencaspar no not ''Especially in belgium'' U is used for everybody in belgium so its basically just ''you'' and he doesnt live in belgium so he can use the way dutch people speak and if he ones to be respectful he should use u to elderly people.
Leuke video. Vroeger dacht ik als Nederlander dat Belgen heel zachtaardig en lief zijn, maar ik heb er een aantal jaar gewoont en ben daar letterlijk monddood gemaakt. Durfde niet meer te praten, schaamde me voor mijn Nederlandse accent terwijl dat nergens voor nodig is. Ik voelde me heel eenzaam, werd er heel erg gediscrimineerd. Ieder geval, ik woon weer terug in Nederland, heb wel goede contacten met Belgen die ook in Nederland wonen. Ik zal ieder geval nooit meer in belgie durven wonen.
Dankjewel voor het kijken! En klinkt als je niet de beste ervaring in Belgie hade. Misschien als je er nog weer bezoek zal je iets anders ervaren.
@@jayanouni bij mij was het in Brugge. Gewoon het gelach om mijn accent, het altijd proberen na te doen. Of mij heel moeilijk aan kijken tijdens een gesprek alsof ik Chinees praat, en dan vervolgens ook doodleuk zeggen van sorry ik moet heel erg concentreren op wat je zegt. Nou als iemand heel netjes ABN praat dan ben ik het wel, maar goed. Haha wat was ik opgelucht toen ik België verliet.
Deze indruk had ik ook. Misschien dat Belgen in deze video niet echt durven zeggen wat ze denken. Zoals ze zelf ook zeggen, dat ze niet zo direct zijn. Ik dacht eigenlijk dat Nederlanders van Belgen houden maar Belgen niet van Nederlanders. Te opinionated, blunt en serieus. Maar eigenlijk ook dat ze een beetje tegen Nederlanders opkijken omdat ze NL zien als makkelijker in de omgang. Wat moderner, vlotter (ouderwets woord:). Wat in Nederland een hype/tendens is, komt in België vaak zo'n twee jaar later ook. Liefs!
@ what' this: Dit vind ik jammer om te lezen... ik ben super gesteld op onze buren want ik woon een km of 15 van de grens en ga graag een keerje naar onze buren. Waarom? Omdat zij geen vooroordelen hebben en altijd goedlachs zijn. Ik merk ook wel dat er vlaamse mensen zijn die vlug een oordeel klaar hebben, maar zeker niet iedereen is zo. Een lach en een vriendelijk woord kost niks, met dat principe ben ik opgebracht en dat draag ik nog steeds in mijn hart. Het spijt me enorm dat je je tijd hier zo ervaren hebt... En dat dit dan nog in Brugge gebeurt is... de mensen met zowat het slechtste accent van heel België... zelfs wij vlamingen verstaan hen bijna niet, vooral als je niet van brugge zelf bent. 😅
@@tiger1976 Ik heb wel goede ervaringen met belgen die niet uit Brugge komen, heel vriendelijk en open...Daar ben ik dan wel blij mee om het op deze manier te ervaren..maarja ook natuurlijk hele vervelende ervaringen gehad. Ik heb daar een keer een ongeluk gehad in Brugge en ambulance personeel bekeek uitgebreid mijn idkaart. Toen zeiden ze van "je bent geboren in Amsterdam, dat is al de grootste fout, maar nu woon je in België dus het gaat de goede kant op"..
Ik denk dat ik door de pesterijen overgevoelig ben geraakt voor zulke hollander grapjes, want ze denken altijd dat hollanders asociaal, luidruchtig, en gierig zijn maar dat ben ik totaal niet. Nu ben ik ook samen met nog steeds mijn be vriend en we hebben samen een kindje.....vriend van zijn moeder zei daarop "ik vrees dat het ook hollands zou praten". Je kan begrijpen dat wij die vent nooit meer willen zien hahah. Vrienden van mijn vriend die verklaarde hem ook zot dat hij met een hollandse ging..het was ieder geval niet het warme welkom waar ik op gehoopt had 🤔🤣
We did it! I think 25 years ago they would have called us loud and greedy and we would smile back and hug them because they are so sweet. Against their will possibly. But we kept hugging them anyway and making compliments about their Burgundian life style, oblivious about if they enjoyed it or not. In the USA we would be arrested for harrassment. And now look, we finally won them over and they love us back!
Liked the video, brings a smile!
Just wondering, are you South African? :D
Looks like I'm hearing Afrikaans!
Keep up the good work EXPLORING THE FOREIGN!
Thank you for watching and for your feedback!😃 And nope, I'm an American from California haha. Been living in the Netherlands for two years, though.
My very first impression of the Dutch was how friendIy and heIpfuI they were. As an American, I stiII have no cIue what is meant by them being so direct because I'm that way myseIf. As a generaI ruIe, I don't find them as 'sober' as they refer to themseIves as being, but they're aIso not so 'up-tight' as Americans are. I've had Iess experience with BeIgians, but the ones I've met have more of a 'European' fIavor to them than the Dutch which seem more Scandinavian to me. It's true, you know immediateIy when you cross the border between HoIIand and BeIgium. I Iike both of them.🌹🌹
I agree, Linda! The direct isn't as strong as I think a lot of people think; it's definitely more than the US but nothing that is too much I'd say.
Depends on where you are, people up north are far more direct than say amsterdam.
European flavor? please dont say stuff like this. You're american and should not try to claim what is european or not. Also we are nothing like Scandinavians, Scandinavians are shy people. Imagine youre can visit ruins of a roman bath house almost 2000 years old (heerlen) and than an american comes to tell you they see you a less european and more american... ma'am think before you say something please.
There is no borderbetween Holland and Belgium
Dutch are very direct for European standards, Americans are just considered straight our rude and ill mannered.
Bedankt voor de leuke video! De vraag rijst natuurlijk: wat zouden de Duitsers en Engelsen van ons vinden? ;)
Dankjewel voor het kijken! En nu moet ik die video plannen haha
Wow! Your Flemish is so good. How long did it take for you to learn it?
Ik woon nu 2 jaar in Nederland dus in die tijd 😁
Denk dat ik, en met mij meer Hollanders, , blijer ben met de Belgische mensen, dan de Belgen met ons zijn. Volgens mij zijn wij heel erg aanwezig. Zo'n idee heb ik.
Ik love België, btw ♥️
Didn’t expect anything else from our friendly neighbors. You’re getting famous by the way bro, I showed our selfy to my colleagues and the response was, yeah we’ve seen videos of him on YT. Before you know it you’re a BN-er.😂 Mark my words.
Hunchback!! (using your RUclips name for your privacy haha) that's hilarious! I hope they were fans of the videos haha. I look forward to hanging out again!
Wat leuk dat er een chiraffe eenwieler voorbij kwam! Op het eenwieler NK heb ik ook veel Belgische mensen gesproken, hele leuke mensen
Het was interessant om te kijken. Ik ben geen nederlander en ook geen belger maar duitser en vind de verschillen tussen de twee landen interessant.
Wow en je kan toch Nederland ? Dat is richtig
Nicely presented. 😁😎🤸✨
Thank you!
I'm a Dutchie
I love our neighbors
Belgium ppl are friendly, funny and very respectfully
They are not very open but that's okay
I love to be around Belgium ppl
Ohh and it is a beautiful country also
Your Dutch is very good btw
Have fun
Leuk! En dankjewel voor de compliment over mijn nederlands! :)
leuke video !!:)
Dankjewel!
Belgium and the Netherlands have a weird relationship. We both come from the same original country, the Seventeen Provinces. History has separated us and two different nations grew out of this. But the connection is still there and I feel like we love eachother and stand by eachother when it matters. Warm greetings to my Dutch brothers, from a boring dumb Belgian :-D
I actually do not think the feeling is mutual. I am Dutch, I like Belgium and the Belgians a lot but I do not feel at home or that we are family. For that we are to my mind way too different. The point to me is: I like that difference and Belgium has different things to offer we simply lack. So it is to my mind good, but I do not feel a connection actually. But it could also be that I am the exception. I live pretty close to Belgium, the border is a 40 minute drive or so and there are LOADS of Belgian tourists where I live.
Belgian people are our brothers and sisters. We often share blood lines and family bonds especially in the south. Sometimes we are rivals (especially during football games of our national teams and cycling) but at the end of day there is a lot of love. What I like about Belgian people is that they are very polite and nice, their food culture is much better than in the Netherlands and their cities and landscapes are more beautiful than ours. So if a country would decide to attack Belgium I would definitely join my Belgian brothers to fight💪
Wow... as a belgian... i applaud you and thank you for your kind words...
For myself... i lovemy neighbors, and if they are ever in need, i will try my hardest to support and help them. My heart is not yeallow, red and black but it contains orange aswell.
You have a such realexing voice, nice man hahaha!
We dont have beef with the Belgium people. Belgium and the Netherlands used to be one country, and we will always be connected. The Dutch are more extrovert and the Belgiums a bit more introvert. The Dutch walk with their heads up and the Belgiums more with their heads down. Both good people:)
Thanks! not often you hear what Belgians think about the Dutch! I had a Dutch girlfriend for 7 years, I think we all get along pretty well and are always pleased to visit one another cause our countries compliment each other in some way. But we are also always happy to go back to our own country :) Congrats on your level of Dutch man! Impressive! Just try not to get the Dutch accent too much haha jj!
Marokkaanse geboren in België en ik hou van jullie beiden 🇲🇦❤️🇧🇪🇳🇱 en al wat ik gehoord heb in de video klopt! 😁❤️
I live in south of NL. For 2 years I took this car upholstery course in Neerpelt, just acros the border. I have nothing negative to say about them😊. Very funny accent, sometimes a bit hard to understand if it's a local dialect. One funny thing they joked about with the Dutch and the Netherlands was about the world wide web.... Take any Dutch thing. Like fietsenwinkel, bed, gordijn, lamp, studieboek, whatever. Put a ".nl" behind it and guaranteed that there's a website that sells these things. There's a .nl for EVERYTHING 🤣.
lol 😂
Belgium used to be a part of the republiek of the Netherlands. During the 1ste WW the Dutch people opened their houses for (around) 1 million Belgium people. We are real close to each other. As a Dutchman I love Belgium. If Belgium and the Netherlands would be one, we would be more than 3 times world champion soccer!
Ik kom zelf uit nederland maar ik kom altijd heeeel graag naar antwerpen toe wij gaan daar nog steeds super vaak heen in het weekend om naar een cafetje te gaan of uitgaan
Me and my wife came across a Flemish couple once in a restaurant in France and they opened up about what they thought about the Dutch and about the Wallon (French speaking half) and they said they would almost more prefer to belong to the Netherlands than to be tied up to their French speaking half. I myself love the Belgians, also the French speaking ones, they know what good food is, personally had better experiences there than in France. I was at some parties and events and there is always a hot meal for lunch and a nice beer ready for you. As we say "echte levensgenieters"
Interesting!
As a Belgian I agree.. Belgium is a political mess. I rather be dutch then Belgian as well. 😊
@@robinnoel2716 As a walloon, i still believe that the political mess will be fixed, but i also dream that one day, benelux will merge to one country because the proximity and the history with netherlands and luxembourg is too huge to stay separate.
Wow great stuff guys, this is so interesting to me! My experiences in the Netherlands are rather that everyone is quite proud of their country and would never be willing to fall under any other country. The Dutch do generally like Belgians though, from what I have experienced at least, and would definitely welcome them. The Benelux as a country I think would really be a powerhouse and would at least get rid of the name confusion between "Holland" and "the Netherlands" or at least weather or not it is "the" or without....
As a fleming living in Wallonia for 10+ years, I believe it is still possible to unite our country. The biggest problem here is politics and media deviding the people. We can do better.
leuk gedaan man.
Dankjewel John!
Hey as you live in Amsterdam maybe you should visit Westerpark one day because it is fun
It's going on my list!