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I don't know who's in charge of turning on the captioning, but this deaf broad would appreciate it if somebody did so I can appreciate this too!
Love your videos:
Ignore those who call you a racist when you give YOUR o😢pinion of history. Just remember, it's easy to call names when we don't agree. Here's a topic for you. As a person of color that loves the untalkedabout history with out the the idea of racism. 😎 Most of the ancient high cultures of North, Central, and South America have stories of white skinned red or blonde haired people. With that being said, the Third Ryke (let's leave it at that, please) spent a tremendous amount of time studying South america and Central america in particular. They eventually settled upon fleeing to Venezuela at the end of World War 2. Why? Did they find something to led them to that particular region? What did they find?
Haplogroup X brought the Swastika to the Americas. It's a Neanderthalic symbol, spread with the Venus Idols and dog domestication. This all occurs between 20k to 28k BC. Red ochre was used at funerary rites, it's the one way in which you know you're looking at that old continuous culture.
With love from wales 🏴
who cares about Columbus anymore it seems like all off you have forgotten about Thor Heyerdahl and the vessel Kon-Tiki blowing a hole in that people couldn't travel around the globe earlier than thought.
Thanks so much for this chat Jim, it was fun and seems to have been enjoyed by many. I'm still a little blown away people like hearing me talk about this stuff as much as they do, so this is kinda crazy to me still. I look forward to doing this again, differing opinions meeting together and finding common ground is far more beneficial to everyone involved... Maybe this could spill over into the rest of the world?
*puts down pipe
Pin this mans comment 🙏❤️
No pipe is needed to have ideals
😭😭🤣🍻
Thank you both so much for doing this. Makes the world a better place
Always nice to hear respectful discussion about topics of interest. Doesn't mean you need to agree, but upholding principals of good discussion is something the world needs more of right now.
Flint Dibble is how I imagine Reddit and Discord mods are like irl
With the obligatory fedora
Lmao not even joking he legitimately IS one of the reddit mods on the r/archeology subreddit 💀
This checks out
Don't be silly, Flint Dibble is a successful professional, who has travelled the world doing some very exciting things and has a wife... He's nothing like anyone on Reddit.
People say Flint did a good job on Rogan but he came off as a smug asshole to me. He kept laughing in Graham's face and that's not how you treat someone when you have a valid counter argument
That's the attitude of somebody who thinks they know it all
@@909TITO707 like Hancock?
@@909TITO707Just the attitude of someone who clearly knows more than Graham
Doesn't matter if he's smug or not. He's still right over Graham
@@deepburritoHancock openly admits he's speculating and doesn't have answers. Stop lying.
I knew watching that JRE podcast that something w Dibble didn't sit well with me. Nice to know my intuition is still working correctly.
*We stand with Graham!!*
So glad to see Dan getting this exposure. He is honest, unbiased and an excellent source to help determine what is factual
People easily fall for fake smart people. Flint Dibble is one of those people. In Dibble's mind, there is no room for speculation. He acts like he's open-minded in public to gain virtue points, but he absolutely is a company man and will never deviate from the mainstream narratives. Graham has a hypothesis, and instead of allowing him to look into that hypothesis people like Flint would rather attack and dismiss him.
His father likely followed the path to archeology because of his curiosity. Flint found the path because of his Dad's ideas.
The most accurate description. It’s so obvious. So many good minds fall for it sadly. People who write off the speculation strike me as CLOSE minded. Not what we want from archaeologists
Flint is a damn dibble… 🤡
Flint Dibble had such an easy position, also. All he had to do was poke holes, sow doubt, critique etc. I personally think I could do a better job at critiquing and poking holes in Graham Hancock's ideas(not that I want to).
He's such an odd emotionally immature character. He strikes me as slightly autistic. I think he's smart and rational enough to know when he's lying or taking liberties, but he's just so emotionally invested that he can't help himself from taking lying getting upset.
If he wasn't so emotionally invested he could probably have made more compelling arguments.
I entertain the possibility of Graham Hancock being wrong. I appreciate his work, he has brought attention to and sparked an interest in the topic for me. But I've seen him make weak arguments, leaps in logic and grasping at straws at times. If I was to take on a role as a disingenuous detractor I would have a lot more ammunition to discredit Hancock with than Flint Dibble had.
I would ha erve to be disingenuous, or in bad faith, but I think I could do a way better job debating Hancock. I understand inquiry and speculation is essential to the scientific approach and his curiosity is probably his greatest contribution, but it's also very easy to attack, ridicule and 'debunk' people who are willing to speculate out loud.
Glad to see someone is addressing the dibble debacle. It truly was ridiculous.
it's especially ridiculous calling Graham a racist considering he has a black wife and daughter!!!
Dibble has Daddy issues.
He debunked the pseudo archeologist tho
Sure! The racism stuff was a stretch but either way, it showed that Hancock is a CHILD archeologist…… and a pseudoscientist
@@buzzardscry1383 lmao most of grahams ideas were not even remotely addressed. It was a pissing match. Nobody won.
Hancock is inherently likable and comes off as honest and genuine. The other guy is the polar opposite.
you'd better seek help, or i can sell you a really cool bridge....
Some of these fools crack me up. Can you explain it? No, I can't. My theory is _______. You're nuts and don't know wtf you're talking bout lol
That doesn’t make him right, they both had good points in this debate and I try and stay neutral to get both sides unlike most of you who stay biased
Hancock is a talented presenter and very likeable, however very light on facts.
I’m on Graham’s side, but he’s definitely not likable either.
One is saying "Hey look I don't know what the truth is but lets agree to look into it." And the other is saying "What you are ridiculous! How can you even think like that! Racist!"
i think its more like, one has a career and livelihood based on finding the truth, and the other one has a livelihood shitting on career truthseekers
Except Graham blatantly ignores anything that archeologists "look into" if it disagrees with his books
Look into Graham his parents were missionaries. He literally pushed the natives needed saving. And old archeology was racist back then, he still uses their bullshit. So yeah, dibble isn't " cool" but he isn't wrong.
@@buzzardscry1383 this is an excellent perspective :) i dont think graham is a bad person nor do i think dibble is a good person, & that should not even be part of the conversation when were talking about what the truth is, which is why all these people here including dibble, graham, jimmy, and even dedunker, have gotten lost
Thinking critically is FAR RIGHT, etc etc
When the person you are arguing against resorts to personal insults it usually means you've won
It always means that you've won.
@@mr.pritchard67fair
Exception - Indiana Jones. See what Flint was going for now?
It's certainly a mistake to resort to ad hominems if your arguments are strong and compelling.
Just like democrats. So many similarities and personal attacks
Dedunking is such a great channel. Its important to have these conversations.
I found this guy when he was at 200 subscribers and I knew then he was going to blow up. He's definitely one of those channels where you'll drop whatever youre doing to watch his videos when he uploads.
Gram is the man...do NOT slander him.
This civil discourse is a HUGE breath of fresh air! Would love to meet you and maybe hang out one day. Great work as always mr. Corsetti
Here's hoping that Flint Dibble's career crumbles and he loses everything
Flint D. Is what happens when ALL the kids get a trophy for participating...!i
The archaeologists shouldn't be stopping Graham Hancock from doing his research as, surely, if his findings are *so* wrong, he'll disprove himself!
LITERALLY THIS!!! If he is so wrong then he would’ve never gained an influence like he has.
There's so much hidden under our feet.
When humanity joins together to help one another all will be good, So many egos and cry babies . We just want the truth.
Yes if we all truly wanted to honest with each other and help others in need. We are all family in a way after all.
Just because some in the past were evil doesn't mean they were 100% wrong about everything. Just because some in the present are wrong, doesn't preclude the possibility that they are also evil.
I recently discovered Dan, he's a legend! Been binging his vids all week 🤣
But Nazi is a word that is always thrown around when one tries to deflect the truth but has no supportable information to refute it.
Imagine a world where people who simply ask the questions gets harassed, ridiculed and bullied
Don't need to imagine it. This is the world we live in.
Graham doesn't get bullied and Harassed for "asking questions," he gets bullied and harassed because every time science answers his questions, he ignores it because it doesn't help him sell books. I would be fed up with Graham if I was an archeologist too.
Imagine a world where experts with decades of experience are trusted over random neckbeards that read a book once.
@@matthewsmolinsky5605Yeah, Dribble's a lying neckbeard in his daddy's wardrobe.
@@ericward284 - You mean the same scientists who throw intellectual honestly under the bus and rather make contrived narratives of muh racism? Lacking such credibility they should of gone into politics instead.
Flint dibble 😂. What a joke 🤣
Call the “swastika” the original name of “Darma Wheel” & people won’t have such a tantrum.😅
Darma wheel ??? What are you hiding !!
The dharma wheel is a separate symbol, which looks like a ship's steering wheel. Swastika is the correct Sanskrit term. In European languages, it was mostly called some variation of "gamma cross" (the arms of the cross are shaped like the Greek letter gamma), "four-legged cross" (Greek "tetraskelion"), or "hooked cross" (that's what the Germans called it - hakenkreuz).
The symbol of the sun.
The field of Archeology is just another field controlled by a certain tribe that is invested in controlling a narrative that might be inconvenient for them.
That's utter nonsense lol archeology cost tons of money for little to no profit.
@@ericward284 Who said anything about profit?
The “archeology” gives us the the narrative which is (controlling bullshit) which in turn leads to massive profits ✌️
@@ericward284 You did not understand what awdgaray wrote. The nonsense is in your head.
Not just that one tribe.
Archeology was the first group I recognized as being proto-technocrats.
If you aren't 'Edumicated' at an Ivy league indoctrination center, then you can't ask a question our speculate about history.
The trend has grown to all fields now.
It's like the old whigs never went extinct at all
Archeology requires a massive amount of knowledge in various fields of science to understand. No, a bunch of random idiots on RUclips "asking questions" isnt a challenge to anything. Especially when they answer questions, and then you get mad because it wasn't the answers you want
@@ericward284 "knowledge" thats been regurgitated to them by people who had "knowledge" regurgitated to them and so on. Appealing to authority for the sake of appealing to authority is a complete fallacy. They follow an established narrative, one that uses fear tactics to prevent people from going against it.
There's many examples of scientists and academics finding things that go against the official narrative and then getting fired or their reputation gets ruined or they lose grant money and the ability to continue research. They followed the established protocols and were punished for it when others didnt like the results. Some of these people were even later vindicated much later in life or sometimes after death when their work became irreputable. Had everyone not gone against them from the getgo tho it probably would have happened much much sooner. The system set up is literally holding itself back in so many ways. Even the way they give out grant money is ridiculous, if you have evidence that your research and work will go against the narrative, do you really think you're getting approved?
You need to be able to build off of science and academia but when they only allow one way of thinking and its not allowed to be questioned then that isnt science and the entire thing is actually built on a shoddy foundation, one where you're only ever going to see a specific trajectory and like minded thinking.
@ericward284 If the questions were not a threat, then why do so-called professionals use their 'massive amount of knowledge' to ridicule and label the questioner with unfounded labels?
And why, instead of actually answering the questions, they respond with,'You don't know what you're talking about, so shut up and let the professionals tell you what the truth is'?
Because, frankly, if their truth made sense with the evidence... there wouldn't be any questions to ask.
👌🏻 The world is infested with all these control mechanisms, I saw it several decades ago. Follow the money and find your enemy............
So not only is dibble wildly arrogant but hes also a total liar, huge surprise! (Full sarcasm)
I’ve been watching dan since he was only getting like a thousand views. Crazy to see him have this impact now. He really is awesome and I’d love to see him talk about this on JRE
It's painfully obvious that Dibble is that type of person who has an inflated opinion of himself and must always prove he's the smartest person in the room.
His ego is not the only thing inflated. I mean the suit was inflated as well haahaha
Another theory is that Gobleke Tepe is even OLDER. Maby the hunter gatherers stumbled upon it, added their touch and then abandoned the site.
Pole shift?
The stifling of human curiosity that is encouraged today is blatant bullshyt, without it we would never have made it out of bronze age
"Their egos let them miss golden opportunity"-I couldn't have put it better. I agree 100%. They could cooperate with Graham, point out where he is wrong and agree on some stuff and people would respect them so much more!
Dan seems like the adult trying to sort out a fight in the sandpit. He deserves way more channel views.
People need to keep an open mind about things and stop been in so much denial about everything
People are saying that Flint lived in that CHAZ thing when that happened back during the BLM riots? LOL Flint must love BBC too
Dibble makes my brain hurt..
Never seen willful ignorance shine so bright like on him.
So embarrassing Flint just kept citing his dad as his source of research.
Who even refers to their father as "my dad" as an adult in a formal situation ugh
I think it is important to recognize people like Flint as disruptors and distractors. Two average Joes, in this case, an average Jimmy and Dan, just as smart, if not.... then smarter, can turn so many heads descending into rabbit holes forbidden to by mainstream. There is a sore spot folks like you are unearthing and the gate keepers would rather we remain fighting amongst ourselves as opposed to obtaining vital information of who we are not through the academic filter. You can sift through hours of internet chafe and become educated. An educated mass can be a scarry thing for a few.
It's sad that humanity as a whole can't have an open an honest discussion about our roots. There is so much evidence of advanced civilizations way before what is accepted by mainstream archaeology that it should spark curiosity. We could learn so much about our distant history if there was an honest, concerted effort. But I can't ignore that fact anymore that powerful interests (whoever they ultimately are) do not want humanity to know about our origins, for reasons unknown (well there are many theories but it's impossible to know what is true and what isn't).
There are many things I don't know but I'm fairly certain that the accepted version of our early history has very little to do with what actually happened.
And on the other end of time... If the Galactic Federation doesn't reveal itself we stand to suffer from the same deceptive tactics we've been subject to from religion for millennia. That being, control by a middle-man who interprets the will of a superior unseen power on our behalf. Nothing changes..
The word racist aint really working anymore Jimmy. Also if my Grandpa saw the parade in Toronto today , he woulda never went to fight a certain someone in WW2
I was living in mississauga until recently , I live in Georgetown now it’s a lot better if you know what I mean… I visited Halifax recently and that place has been ruined by the liberals , junkies and homeless everywhere not to mention thier liberal ideologies plastered everywhere.
I told my mom. "That's what your father jumped out of planes for, so grown men could put on a wig call themselves a woman and mess with young girls in the woman's bathroom." Lol
@@crappycomputer77t1that's funny because most child molesters are men that the children thought were someone they could trust. Try harder bigot.
People who hate gay people are usually hiding something. People who aren't gay don't care if others are. Haters hate on people they see as being better than themselves. Maybe you need to do some introspection.
I've gone from apathy at being called those things, to actively embracing them. If the most evil people in power are constantly calling their enemies very specific names, then those are the people that are the biggest threat to their power. A rational man must ask: why?
Flint Dibble, destroying lives because he can't make one for himself.
"Flint Dibble" is the name made up by the 8 year old boy wearing his daddy's clothes standing on his 10 year old brother's shoulders. Good for debates and getting into movies.
Your mom raised an idiot.
Indiana Jones light. Ultralight.
And he’s still 5’6” tall!
Lmao
@@Axiomatic75looked like a little kid got an adult Indiana Jones costume and a fake mustache.
Someone with the last name dibble, was definitely made fun of as a child, and it shows.
I'm sure his first name was made fun of more. Fred Flintstone, yabba dabba doo.
Yeah, that's why he can't lose his "smart" archaeologist identity, he will be unbearably haunted by his loser identity. Keeping the slippery/deceptive archaelogist facade will help him manage his deep feelings of general failure as a human being. My ninja openly said "we should strive to get wealth and status rather than hunting for the truth" lmfao
I just saw this guy's video on the topic yesterday. We CANNOT let Dibble get away with this. Don't stop until you get Rogan himself publicly apologizing.
Thanks Jimmy for being on top of this!
Because ultimately it is Joe Rogan's fault for not having his own team fact-check the guy beforehand. Surely Dibble provided the evidence to Rogan before the show. So the moment Dibble started to misrepresent that first slide, we should have seen Rogan talking to somebody off-camera, going "Hold up, hold up. Can you go back through this, and show me exactly what you're talking about?" Something like that. But Rogan was caught totally off-guard, and just allowed this guy to LIE through his TEETH for two hours. Bad form, Joe.
Well said. I, too, thought Rogan did an absolutely terrible moderating job! Allowed Dribble to totally dictate the direction of all the topics!
I also felt Graham was very weak, to allow it to occur, without a fight. _Very_ surprised he let it happen.
Nah disagree. Like I don't think Grahm is a racist but his theory is very similar to ones from the 1800s which were blatantly racist. I think Grahm put up a good fight in the debate but lost. I don't think anyone needs to issue a public apology.
@@Vunderbread fact check what? dibble only told the truth? and provided evidence unlike graham has ever done? and he also was pretty respectful for the most part, at least as much as graham was, so what exactly is he "getting away with"? showing people what real archeology looks like?
@@Kodama666 bootlicker energy
You don’t need a conspiracy theory to see what happened to Puma Punku. It was hit by a giant wave. And the stones had keys to hold them together, and those were likely made of metal, and someone came and collected them so we wouldn’t be able to analyze them today.
Address the triple parentheses….
They never do
Humans can do all that stuff- look at WHY they might have done it rather than if IF they could have done it.
Great point….
😂
@@benjaminshrimpton1 yes humans .!!
Could the ancients have poured the rocks into place like a lost version of concrete?
Graham: This is what Ive researched.
McDibble: But my dad researched this.
Flint Dibbles ancestors persecuted Copernicus.
source?
@@ralfrudiger7276 LOL. Y'all are walking memes.
@@eamonnholland5343 who is yall? Justgive me a source!
@@eamonnholland5343 btw you are gay! I wont give you any evidence for that, just search for yourself!
KEEP DOING THESE!!!!
Little Dibble doesn't even fit into his dad's clothes.
I've been following Graham's work since 2016 or so. When they started calling him a white supremacist after his Netflix show came out I was surprisingly shocked at how low they would go to discredit him. I had heard their attacks on him before, but never that one. From the books I've read by him and all the podcasts and interviews I have listened to, I never even got an inkling of the idea that he's a white supremacist... because he's not 😂
I've watched and listened to a lot, and I mean A LOT, of Grahams stuff . Even radio interviews and such from like the late 90s.
I love Graham, I have almost all of his books but I'll be the first to admit that this debate was not Grahams best stuff.
But just the tone of voice and sneering demeanor coming from Flint automatically dismisses him from being any sort of authority to debunk Grahams claim of a lost civilization (the whole premise seems to me more logical than what the opponents claim).
Time will prove Graham right and will vindicate him and his colleagues, I'm sure of it
What about Lake Van in Turkey? Older than Gobleki Tepe? Ruins in the lake as well. Matt La Croix getting a team together to investigate.
What about it?? It's only estimated to be 3000 years old right?
Current archaeological experts advice. Matt La Croix thinks otherwise based on megalithic ruins, 3 different building methods. Oldest more advanced apparently than the most recent. Will wait ...
“Crabs are real assholes” 😂
Ben was not the first person to point out the precision of those vases
What a shocker Dan is an ex-tradie, with his use of profanity. As a plumber for over 40 years, across the other side of the World, I understand just how hard it can be to remove from your vocabulary. It's endemic in the industry. Great talk; thx guys.
Bet if historians, etc., from 3000 years in the future looked back & saw the common thread, of profanity, they would deny any common relationship, between the Peoples, in our present day World. If they hold to the same myopic, corrupt version of the past, that certain industries currently do.
I used to be neighbors with Dan and like many other trade people I know, he's good people. It was a complete trip when yt randomly recommended one of his videos to me years later, my brain almost couldnt compute that it was him at first.
Use fewer commas.
Cheers!
@oceantree5000 you must have a miserable life... 😂😂
Love this. You see, people can disagree on things, and still move on with common grounds, that's beautiful. Thank you Jimmy, for bringing up Dan.
The stone jars and vases are definitely not turned on a lathe.
Good on you both for doing this
Nailed it sir flint will never have the charisma of Graham and he is jealous...
Great conversation - well worth listening too!
Now THIS was an awesome conversation
You guys keep up the good job. Keep questioning everything!!!
Flint Dibble´s career should be over after that ridiculous charade!
@BRIGHTINSIGHT Jimmy, I'm a long time subscriber, pre-Rogan, and I watch all your vids. I CAN'T STAND Dibble and when this video was pushed to me, I saw him on the thumbnail and told myself I won't watch anything with that a**hole, but I clicked anyway. You may want to take Dibble off the thumbnail because I think that dude sends everyone running and doesn't do justice to this vid.
I do agree, politics does not,and should not come into this.
I can give you 1 example of what it might cost to do lab work on a sample: after 2008 when our bees were being killed wholesale by neonicotinoid pesticides, the Health Canada people stopped doing tests on the soil around decimated beeyards, and told beekeepers that they would have to do the testing themselves. To test for 1 chemical (and you must tell them WHICH chemical) it cost then $1,000. You have to know which chemical before or your'e wasting your time. I'm sure it costs a LOT more now.
A giant to the people back 3000 years ago during the time of the Bible wouldn’t be that much taller than our average tall person today - hell the height in 1776 people today would be giants to them. So a giant in their eyes probably wouldn’t be as big as what we would think as giants would be
As far as the refacing of the pyramids - Civilizations are old, the Mayan temples weren’t built by the Mayans they were built thousands of years before the Mayans found them and utilized them.
There's been giant skeletons found all 8ver the world. 8ft + tall. Don't believe me? Go look...
They wouldn't be giants. Just exceptionally tall.
Yep. The Celtic origin mummy found in China is around 6'7". That would be a giant.
I mean, Goliath, (who wasn't a nephilim I know) was measured at about 9'6". And the average Jew during Roman occupation was about 5'2" according to census data. I would say the average peoples of the day ,(4-6') would absolutely call a tribe of NBA players; Giants.
Giants were also a "thing". Robert Sepher (an archeologist) did a few videos on how newspapers from the 1800s documented the unearthing of actual giants and what they all had in common was the Smithsonian was coming to get the bones.
I'm six minutes into the replay, but, to the people that think the entire Atlantis conversation and our interest in it originates and follows the racist German Theosophy ideas:
The pre-Egyptians would've been ethnically Egyptian. The communities of Gobekli Tepe were Turkish. The Indonesians, Indians, South Americans... were the ancestors of the people living there still. If the Richat Structure was the capital of Atlantis, then Atlanteans were Ancient Mauritanians.
*This has never had anything to do with race.* I suspect my European grandparents were the least interesting of all of them to be fair. I think I speak for most people when I say this is all about the unanswered questions left around the world by many cultures.
Define, "Turkish."
Cuz the Turks are a cool 10,000 years younger than Gobekli Tepe. And that part of the world has traded hands more than we'll ever know.
It's a good point overall, but the communities of Gobekli Tepe were definitely not Turkish, Turk peoples didn't exist for many millennia yet.
@@TrivettTurner-ee4rp Yeah, fair point. I Googled what exactly falls under the umbrella of _Turkish,_ but y'know what I mean. The indigenous people wouldn't have been called by any of the names we use today. I'm only saying if the question is _"why is there one statue foundation on Rapanui that clearly has the same design as sites in Peru?"_ The answer was never gonna be _"White people did it."_
And if after everything is known, and that most unlikely answer happened to be the historical truth, I don't personally feel like I get more _points_ over anyone else alive today because I share a surface level skintone. That has nothing to do with the how or why of anything.
BRO DID HE JUST SAY HASTINGS?!! Is he from Amarillo?!!
RUclips CC’d Flint Dibble to Flint Devilhead. Based.
Had a taste of establishment when I questioned why Gobleki Tepe has permanent structures built over the site & why it's taking so long ,was called ignorant, told to leave it to the profesionals...more but not worth rehashing
Great video! Glad to see you talking to DeDunking!
JUST AWSOME GUYS THANK YOU
Flint Dibble is just a LARP Indiana Jones, not to be taken serious.
He's pretending to be a scientist, just like he's pretending to be indyanann jones.
leave Graham alone, he's old and obviously confused.
Someone has to play scientist.
@@matthewsmolinsky5605pretty sure he's talking about Flint Dibble here. Graham doesn't pretend to be anything. Maybe you should watch his show before you confuse him again.
@@Mr89db sure he does, he pretends to be a journalist for one thing.
@@matthewsmolinsky5605 First look up Grahm before slobbing Dibbles nob on every single post. He WAS a journalist and is now a writer. He has never once claimed to be correct and challenged archeologists to correct him if he was wrong. He had the balls to go on Rogan and got called a racist by Dibble and Dibble has been walking back his claims since. Dibble has lost credability.
Get a life flint.. once you move to personal attacks you've lost... nextttt!!
As if there isn't a million personal attacks against Flint by these guy's audiences 🙄
I would also be angry at everyone if my name was Flint Dibble.
If it's true, they are planting trees then gobekli could be in trouble. Trees can produce an acid that dissolves rocks, this could destroy the site.
I genuinely don’t understand what is supposed to be racist about Atlantis
They spin it as a theory that says white people were responsible for everything in history. No one says that though, if the Egyptians were direct descendants of them then clearly they weren't white
The entire story of a white lost civilization collapsing and then traveling the globe and "making contact" with unenlightened brown people then. Teaching them their culture and showing constructing monuments for them has it's basis in 1800s race theory. Before we had good decent science and everyone was a pseudo scientist/philosphers and slavery was openly practiced.
And no I'm not a debunker I do believe there is true mystery to these ancient moments that archeology and science can't answer
And I'm not saying Grahm is a racist or that his theory is racist.
What I am saying is that the theory that he postulates is logical and makes sense in some places. But unfortunately it is similar to theory racist people have posited in the past. It's an unfortunate coincidence I just think grahm is fallowing his logic which is perfectly fine.
The attribution of some civilizations advancements to long gone, white, Atlanteans by people of history is where dibble draws the racist card from. It’s virtue signaling at its finest in order to disregard hypothesis.
There’s a lot of popular alternative history theories out there that tie the atlantean race to the “aryans”, who are viewed as some kind of an old indo-european, phenotypically white people. It’s very popular theory amongst a certain subculture of conservatives who think white Europe are ethnically superior and are the threat of a global conspiracy to essentially snuff them out.
modern atlantis theories originated from nazi germany, hitler appointed a committee lets say, of "archeologists" to try and provide evidence of aryan supremancy, and one of the things to come out of this was the whole "atlanteans, lost civilization, advanced technology"
I do not think graham is racist
but if you just look at the idea "advanced civilized people, give technology to savage unintellectual people" and u dont see the eurocentrism in that. idk what else i can say, this is a known fact though, you can look it up for yourself. again i dont think this makes graham racist, but he probably should have acknowledged it
Dan's a big voice of reason in all of this. Can't wait to see what he's unearthed about the SAA, sounds grim.
@PHUCKUSA-t1c Society for American Archaeology. Some of their members are acting very, very unprofessionally.
Trees destroying the monument
Love Dan's channel! One of my favourite orators. super interesting content
I've been complaining about that interview on Rogan since it happened. Thank you both for doing this!!! 🎩🍷
A couple things I don’t understand
1) did the accuser not know whom Mr. Hancock is married to? 🤦🏻♀️
2) why do you not ever see maps or landscapes reflecting the actual land masses with less than the current sea levels indicating what was really there? The fact that the sea levels were much lower and this is recognized by the scientific community.
3) Isn’t the core of archeology the study of ancient things? It seems Mr. Hancock pointed out facts, places that have not been studied, in fact ignored.
4) Regarding Yonaguni site in Japan that area needs a map going back from current date to 12,000 years ago showing the fluctuations of the landscape and water levels.
1. Who cares who Hancock is married to?? What does it matter?
2. They do have maps of lower sea level time frames, but theyre estimates because we dont know exactly how it would look because of erosion. So what?? They just show different land masses, not sure what you're expecting to show.
3. Which facts did Graham present?? He just "presents" speculation, and blatantly ignores facts. Which place has been ignored?
4. I'm not sure why you're so stuck on the map thing. There simply wasn't any civilization that could make maps back then, so what do you think the maps are going to show?
It seems that although many structures are super old, they didnt have writing back then. So dont expect to see maps from then. Although Piri Ries map for example presents mysteries that could contradict me.
@@ericward284 Hancock is an amateur and he lacks the ability to bring a solid argument because of it, however he has many good points, why is it that people are so intent on not acknowledging that.
Also your 'who cares' and 'so what' comments in your reply is just plain rude, do better if you want to argue points.
@Stitllams shut tf up man lol I'll talk how I want, get out the comments if you can't handle it. And I say those as legitimate questions. What is the relevance of them?? The op was trying to make points that are irrelevant. If I can find out why they are asking those questions, I can find out if they are even asked on correct premises.
And please enlighten me on what Grahams great points are?
@ericward284 I was asking questions. I do not need to validate any premise with you nor anyone else. You chose to respond. There is the ability to take a map to create a virtual 3D version of what any of these sites that are currently under water that were not in the past. I have searched for quite a few years without finding much. Did you watch the JRE video? There were valid points made by both parties. Both could be right or wrong.
Saying the Sphinx was built about the same time as everything else on the Giza Plateau is like a civilization 10,000 years from now saying the Coliseum must have been built in the 19th or 20th century because everything built around it is known to be built in that time period. Also there is a sign saying keep off the grass and we know people in the 19th and 20th century revered grass because they planted a small square of it outside each of their houses
Reminds me of how I got interested. Loved school when learning about ancient Egypt. About the only time I really enjoyed school.
In my wildest dreams I never thought this would be the kind of beef I was into 😂 4:54
Dibble looks like what an AI image generator would make if you asked it to make a typical redditor
Anytime we have a chance to unearth information of humanity's past, we need to be all in recovering whatever it is. Just look at the change in the thought process of how we look at the planet today based on new found information.
This guy would have been a great mediator for the debate. I love Joe Rogan but this man has extensive knowledge without a researcher at his disposal. His ability to dissect flaws in approach and lay it out in a very simple way is nice. Very interesting
#CancelFlintDibble
for what, destroying Graham Hancock's ridiculous arguments?
@@matthewsmolinsky5605 hahahaha there you are
@@matthewsmolinsky5605 Yeh it's ridiculous to point out that 'so much hasn't been looked at, so that declaring you know everything is not a realistic claim'.
Personally I wish they had discussed Egypt in more depth, it seems that the ancient Egyptians had a lot more technology than was previously thought, but Hancock is not very good at debating, which is why I don't like debates, as the best debater usually wins, not the person who is right.
@@abelbabel8484 omg, you too! lol
@@abelbabel8484 can you believe this "cancel Dibble" idiot?
What's so magical and alien about a tripod pulley/hoist?
Someone should study the manifesto of UNESCO when it was founded after WW2.
Private ownership of history is not in the spirit of the UNESCO charter.
It’s likely that the Hr replacements have overlooked that spirit
Flint is a worm. That's all you need to know.