Rehearsing online with Jamulus and HX Stomp

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024

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  • @bentorres2727
    @bentorres2727 3 года назад +45

    I cannot believed you took the time to go thru this tutorial. You are very kind. Thanks so much.

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад +1

      Hey, you're welcome Ben! Hope it was useful 👍

    • @bentorres2727
      @bentorres2727 3 года назад

      @@DavidAddis very very useful. Maybe you can recommend any audio interface that works best with mac? I'm new to jamulus and just starting my setup. I play guitar and wanted to plug in a mic as well. thank so much!

    • @jmpmusic-ltd
      @jmpmusic-ltd 3 года назад

      @@DavidAddis Thanks. My question is. How is it that the major news network organizations around the world cant Zoom broadcast without interruption, technicalities, et, how can Jamulus promote anything better? Billion dollar media giants with comparative IT departments "gone fishing?" And I thought configuring a DAW, motif, MIDI assigned to tracks to ??? was difficult.

  • @starkickermusic2100
    @starkickermusic2100 3 года назад +4

    Very cool vid thank you for going over the end to end setup! This process would melt a few of my band members analog brains! it will be very interesting to see how music tech companies streamline this whole process. Thanks again!

  • @davidburke3378
    @davidburke3378 3 года назад +3

    Hi David, I am using a much simpler setup on Jamulus. I connect a USB desktop mic to my laptop and use it for my fiddle and voice. I connect my Headphone to the 1.3mm audio input on the laptop. I use an ethernet cable and connect to a fast server. If someone joins your group, you can mute them while playing. Only problem is if someone is far away from the server, they lag a bit and everyone starts slowing down. Thanks for the video.

  • @demiwork
    @demiwork 4 года назад +4

    Great "all coverage tutorial". Thanks for the effort of making it! For those who do like experimenting Jamulus without setting up a private server but do not want getting 'disturbed' by other passengers: Select an appropriate public server and hit the "Solo"- button for every band member. (Be aware; your band members still can be heard by others. Actually they may join your Jam session and play along for themselves).

  • @meouicmoi
    @meouicmoi 3 года назад +3

    Thanks a lot for this GREAT explanation about how to setup the connections. And i really appreciate that you posted this video.
    Incredibly helpful. Thanks again !

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад

      Thanks Thierry, you’re welcome!

  • @levimust4479
    @levimust4479 3 года назад +2

    Wow, excellent explanation. There's enough technology in this video to travel to the Delta Quadrant.

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад

      But not back again, huh? ;)

  • @jimlawrence344
    @jimlawrence344 3 года назад +1

    Very kind to put this tutorial together I just downloaded jamulus turned on my Soundcraft eight mixer and I was in, just like that I didn't have to do anything common now of course if you want to make a private room that's different but there's so many empty rooms common even if somebody joins in on your room and you don't want to hear them you have a slider for each member you can turn it right down, and the sound is like amazing Hi-Fi stereo sound, even better if there is a better, it kind of reminded me of like HD audio

  • @temp289
    @temp289 3 года назад +1

    I was pretty enthusiastic about this program, but this is now the third video I’ve watched in high hopes of getting there. But! Alas! I think that day will never come. My old brain simply refuses to take it all in. Just the same, my compliments on your effort to bring important information to us punters. Keep on pickin.
    John Paiva

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад +1

      Don’t give up John! Get a cheap usb audio interface and just plug a mic into it, then try connecting to anyone’s server. You can go from there!

    • @OrangePony75
      @OrangePony75 3 года назад

      I’m 45, this is, by no means getting any younger. But I’ve always been a bit of a geek. That’s what let me set my Mac as a Jamulus server for my band (reducing latency to almost zero). Is not the age: is the geekyness. There’s always a geek close to you who could guide you :) Regards from MX City.

    • @jimlawrence344
      @jimlawrence344 3 года назад

      Yeah just buying usb-enabled mixer and your ready to go if you have your effects in Hardware forum, plug in a stage mic plug in your guitar plug-in backtracks to play through right through RUclips right into the jamulus room, all the rooms list latency and you can get very little late and see if you join a server in your country or very near to you oh, I already had my usb-enabled mixer plugged into the computer and setup so when I downloaded jamulus I just accepted the program installed it and just like that I did not to do anything special. I know very little about computers

  • @MoorePAHireInc
    @MoorePAHireInc 3 года назад +3

    Excellent Tutorial, TYVM from New York City!

  • @280brookla
    @280brookla 4 года назад +1

    Well done David! Just when I thought you guys couldn't be any better, Michael rocks up with a Rickenbacker! 😍

  • @temp289
    @temp289 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for your reply. I have a home studio and record all the time. It’s the whole setup thing that blows my mind.

  • @UndoingRuin08
    @UndoingRuin08 3 года назад +2

    I was about to beat my head through a wall then stumbled upon this video! thanks! Still my beat my head through the wall, but at least it's on my own terms now.

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад

      Hah! Good stuff. Well I hope you get to rehearse before suffering any permanent injury. 🤣

  • @davidepstein9992
    @davidepstein9992 4 года назад +1

    Really helpful, THANK YOU! We want to try Jamulus for our Barbershop Quartet rehearsals, so the lag time will be critical for us - no "click track" for us! Good luck with your band...!

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад

      Thanks, you too!

    • @davidepstein9992
      @davidepstein9992 3 года назад +1

      @@DavidAddis We've had a few Barbershop Quartet rehearsals now on Jamulus. Synchronization has been an issue (Can we hit the notes at the same time) but that's due to not being able to see each other in real time, less than internet lag. We've had some minor tech issues (one of our singers is really tech phobic), but they're solvable. Good luck!

  • @Wilhelmcook
    @Wilhelmcook 3 года назад

    Hi David, thanks for the nice explanation. We´ll try that out with our band.

  • @chinesemusic8019
    @chinesemusic8019 3 года назад +1

    I find with wired ethernet, cable 300 down 15 up, and my M1 Mac Mini , I can get a delary of 36 ms with a good server with the same. The delay is (self monitoring is hardly noticeable) and with a hardware synth. With a soft synth,there will be delay introduced by that. and wifi connection will introduce a 3-4 ms latency (assuuming no other devidess online). gigabit wire ethernet only introduces a 0.3 ms latency..

  • @MacReviewzOnline
    @MacReviewzOnline 4 года назад +2

    Great video, thanks for the effort and detailing the process with care. Very kind of you. Greetings from LA.

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching! Hope it was useful.

  • @SteveCothern
    @SteveCothern 4 года назад +1

    Nice summary, David -- thanks so much!

  • @mletalien
    @mletalien 2 года назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @liesldavenport5831
    @liesldavenport5831 4 года назад +15

    This set up seems daunting, but I am keeping my mind open. Fixing the sync issue is what it's all about, right?! Has Jamulus been used successfully with voices only for a small a cappella group?

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  4 года назад

      It has! But I would still recommend using a click track like we did.

    • @jimlawrence344
      @jimlawrence344 3 года назад +1

      Even before you join a room at tells you what the latency is, typical latency of fast shooter games online is like 80 milliseconds is ideal Johnny list provides up to as low as 24 millisecond and you cannot notice that there's no way, there's no way to detect that kind of latency oh, that would be something like one thousandth of a second

    • @ampleyfly
      @ampleyfly 3 года назад +1

      @@jimlawrence344 24 milliseconds is literally 24 thousandths of a second, and yes, it _is_ noticeable.

  • @donrumata2609
    @donrumata2609 3 года назад +1

    Thank you!

  • @Kept_Crude
    @Kept_Crude 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant knowledge sharing here! You're a Start !! Thank you:)

  • @ChanceTheWind
    @ChanceTheWind 3 года назад +1

    Super helpful!

  • @agateenchantmentrockwizard5969
    @agateenchantmentrockwizard5969 2 года назад

    Very helpful thanks 😊

  • @tortillaman2491
    @tortillaman2491 3 года назад

    Glad I found this video because now I know not to try this overcomplicated shit.

  • @rickbluelake1
    @rickbluelake1 3 года назад +2

    Just wondering.....Are you or anyone in here familiar with JamKazam? I've been using it since last April. It's very workable but does have latency issues as well. So, so my question is for anyone who has used both Jamulus and JamKazam, which do you find works better/reduced latency/quality sound? Both are as complicated to set up, so I don't want to go through that process again if I get enough comments that JamKazam is equal to Jamulus. PS Great video! Thank you David!

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад +1

      You're welcome! Glad it was useful! We used JamKazam, then switched to Jamulus. Generally we found it easier to set up (Jamulus) and for reducing the latency, plus we could host our own server. We did miss the video though.

  • @74southdenver
    @74southdenver 7 месяцев назад

    Is there a way to fix my band mantes only hearing my clean tone? They can't hear the plugin tones?? Please help anyone

  • @jeremybaity7002
    @jeremybaity7002 21 день назад

    Does this allow you to sync the video with audio or is that a separate program? Sorry, I'm a noob

  • @cnoriga
    @cnoriga 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video, very accurate description of all the steps but one thing I haven't got yet, what takes care of the video part? Is that Jamulus or something else?

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад

      Jamulus doesn’t do video. Jamkazam will, or you could run Zoom at the same time.

  • @IanRoure
    @IanRoure 4 года назад +3

    Hi David - great video! I’m just approaching the testing stage with Jamulus...eventually I’d like to do something with visuals as well as music - I was wondering how you made the video of your band playing? Was that via Zoom or can you record video with Jamulus? Cheers!

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  4 года назад +2

      Hi Ian, no we just set up a camera or webcam and I synced everything in post. In theory though you could run Zoom at the same time (you might want to disable its audio so it doesn't interfere with Jamulus).

    • @IanRoure
      @IanRoure 4 года назад +1

      David Addis ah, I see - yes, I was thinking combining a Zoom and Jamulus session into a single file - maybe in iMovie - might be a way to go - theoretically at least!

  • @mertayhan3976
    @mertayhan3976 Год назад

    Its such a good software but really hard to configure things in windows. Somehow i need to use asio4all but on that i cannot hear my guitar. Neither i can route my daw to the software

  • @ruitaipa
    @ruitaipa 3 года назад +1

    AMAZING

  • @djbull7007
    @djbull7007 3 года назад +5

    I'm from Scandinavia, is coffee okay? I seem to get the same results

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад +3

      Greetings! In theory it should work, although obviously something like water or weak orange squash won't have the staying power.

    • @djbull7007
      @djbull7007 3 года назад

      @@DavidAddis Great, thanks! Also great instruction video!

  • @petergritton3479
    @petergritton3479 4 года назад +1

    One of the clearest tutorials I've seen about techy matters! Thanks so much! David - do you happen to know how many user musicians can 'jam' at the same time with Jamulus because I am hoping to use it for a large group of singers (up to 30) which, for the time being, will have to continue making music online from their homes? Any advice on this most welcome.

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  4 года назад +1

      Glad you found it useful Peter! Apparently the max numbers of users in a single session is 50, but you may hit your bandwidth cap on the server before that. I would try to group them together where possible (so it works out as closer to 10 groups of a few musicians each, all sharing a jamulus login), and use the most well-connected server you can find! I would be very interested to know how you get on. :)

    • @petergritton3479
      @petergritton3479 4 года назад

      @@DavidAddis Thank you very much. I'll try this in groups where possible and we'll see how we get on. I'll let you know! I'm going down the 'private' server route - I don't want to crash Jamulus or limit things for other people! Hope it won't do that. Thanks again.

  • @joekustek2623
    @joekustek2623 3 месяца назад +1

    Quick question I work in IT. What is a ruter? Never heard of that before

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 месяца назад

      Haha... well over here in the South of England most people do indeed say router like "root"er instead of router like r-out-er.

  • @Larzemensch
    @Larzemensch 3 года назад

    Hi David, very nice and clear explanation of it all! Thanks for all the work. We’re just starting to experimenting some programms and thusfar tried SonoBus, Jamkazam en now trying some things on Jamulus. Have you tried other options too, before deciding to use Jamulus? And do you use direct monitoring or not (I’ve read somewhere not to use it, but I’m not sure).
    Thanks for answering, cheers Lars

  • @JCTracksStudio1026
    @JCTracksStudio1026 3 года назад +2

    Hello sir. For long time I'm looking for the best software for online band collaboration. I think this one might be better. Thank you for this tutorial. God bless you.

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад

      You're welcome! Glad it was useful 😊

  • @MrPonderosaPete
    @MrPonderosaPete 3 года назад

    David am I to understand that if I want to use Jamulus I can plug a mic and guitar into the back of a Helix LT and then into my laptop and join/run a jam session without a USB/audio interface (it seems as though I can use the Helix as my audio interface)..?? I am still a little cloudy about this area. Excellent video. Thanks very much..DJ

  • @timwolfe1806
    @timwolfe1806 2 года назад +1

    Great tutorial, question ; does each member need interface and to down load Jamulus app? Thank you great job.

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  2 года назад

      Thanks! Yes, everyone needs an interface and Jamulus running locally.

  • @Granbjam
    @Granbjam 2 года назад +1

    Great video David ! what kind of camera do you have in your hands ???? Yhanks !

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  2 года назад

      Thanks, Yvan! I filmed it with my trusty A7iii.

    • @Granbjam
      @Granbjam 2 года назад +1

      @@DavidAddis Thanks for answering David but I was talking about the little white one with an ext. mic connexion...

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  2 года назад +1

      @@Granbjam oh sorry! That’s a Sony FDR-X3000

  • @jimlawrence344
    @jimlawrence344 2 года назад

    David if I'm showing that the latency is 40 Ms for instance while on Wi-Fi why would I necessarily have to hook up directly with an ethernet cable? After all the results are what they are being received as while plugged in as Wi-Fi. Has anybody run any tests and those tests indicating that the latency is all over the place when using Wi-Fi? The reason I ask is because I don't have available ports, my laptop does not have Wi-Fi or do I have available USB to use a adapter. So that's my only option is Wi-Fi. So it makes sense to me that as long as the latency Test shows low latency while Wi-Fi is plugged in. It'll be maintained at say 40 Ms throughout the entire jam session. Now if anybody has done tests to show that the Wi-Fi is not stable and that large latency comes in unpredictably from time to time let me know thank you

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  2 года назад

      40ms is pretty low in telephony terms, but for live rehearsal I think you would feel it. Especially if your bandmates have about the same. Wired LAN is far better if you can make it work! Perhaps you can get a new dongle to open up some USBs and get an Ethernet port?

  • @birmagar2091
    @birmagar2091 3 года назад

    Hi, As you said you can have HX STOMP instead of Audio interface on @0:41, is that same for Line pod go. Thank you

  • @TheTruth70777
    @TheTruth70777 3 года назад +1

    Nice work here!
    But I got a kinda silly question, do you think its possible to record a band (electronic drums, guitars, bass and keyboard) using vsts FOR ALL THESE INSTRUMENTS from ONE COMPUTER at the same time?

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад +1

      Sure! You just need a sound device with enough inputs for all the instruments, and a computer powerful enough to run all the VST effects simultaneously (not such a big problem nowadays). Studio One or Logic Pro will do it, among many other DAWs. Good luck!

  • @LOFIGSD
    @LOFIGSD 3 года назад +2

    We just Jam at lower volume, none of us have Died of Covid, although we have on stage a few times, from not practicing.

  • @efeozturk5253
    @efeozturk5253 4 года назад +3

    petrucci's old picasso ibanez!

  • @madhupai9683
    @madhupai9683 4 года назад +1

    This is a nice tutorial for Jamulus. Wondering if you have figured out or know of how to send video at low latencies that is synchronized with the audio. In my band, there is a need for the musicians to be seeing each other while performing as the 'main' artist provides a rather complex beat cycle with a hand movement, and the accompanying artists take cues from the hand movements/beat cycle to introduce impromptu embellishments (some math involved) that have to fit in the cycle. Any thoughts?

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  4 года назад +1

      Jamkazam (similar software) does video as well as audio, so that might work out for you. Not sure about the latency of the video in that case, though.

  • @carminaeylar4501
    @carminaeylar4501 3 года назад +1

    Hello. I didn't have time to go through this Q&A but when you get to work on Jamulus you can't SEE the other musicians you play with, correct? You are only listening to each other play? Could you Zoom and play through Jamulus? thank you.

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад

      Correct. I think you could run Zoom at the same time. Just be careful Zoom doesn’t hog your audio device and cripple Jamulus.

  • @TheChrishan1987
    @TheChrishan1987 2 года назад

    Any one to help me ? i'm not able to connect with server

  • @jmccull1
    @jmccull1 3 года назад +1

    Looked for Jamulus in Play Store and can't find it? Recent comments so I'm pretty sure this isn't outdated info. ??

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад +1

      Sorry dude, it’s not on Android. You’ll need a computer!

  • @sicliffvideos
    @sicliffvideos 3 года назад +1

    Nice playing guys - thanks for the tutorial - can I ask what where your upload/download speeds? roughly (with a speed test)

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад +1

      We've mostly got pretty average cable broadband here in the UK - we are fairly close together (London and Reading) geographically. I have a faster connection, fiber in central London. Don't have all the figures though, sorry!

    • @sicliffvideos
      @sicliffvideos 3 года назад

      @@DavidAddis Thanks for getting back to me - I get 60mb/s down and 30mb/s from my mobile hotspot trying to see if thats good enough - I'll test it out (live on a boat)

  • @tartanbobz
    @tartanbobz 3 года назад +1

    May have been answered earlier...
    How did you get video of the band live while rehearsing I've with Jamulus?
    I am thinking something like Zoom with the audio turned off for video and Jamulus for the audio.
    ADV*thanks*ANCE

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад

      We just set up another camera while using Jamulus and I synced it later. But your Zoom idea sounds good too!

  • @stephencraig8578
    @stephencraig8578 3 года назад +1

    Where/how does the video/web cam get connected to become active?

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад

      Jamulus doesn't do video. You could, in theory, also run Zoom/Google Hangouts at the same time so you can all see each other. It wouldn't be in sync though.

    • @stephencraig8578
      @stephencraig8578 3 года назад

      @@DavidAddis oh,ok. I thought from seeing your video that that's how it looked on Jamulus.No problem. As long as I can jam with others that's a cool tool. thx & thx for the quick response

  • @gplunky
    @gplunky 3 года назад +1

    no background music please

  • @mj-qp4qh
    @mj-qp4qh 4 года назад +1

    how do you set up the click track? on another server with multiple clients?

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  4 года назад +1

      "Clicky" is running on another computer, my desktop PC. It doesn't actually have a ASIO sound card, but you can download Voicemeeter, and route your audio through that (you get a 'virtual' ASIO output). Since you don't care about the latency of what the click track is hearing (because it's just outputting clicks), it's okay that it's running with this extra software.

  • @SteveStockmalMusic
    @SteveStockmalMusic 3 года назад +1

    Your squeaky chair should join your band !!!
    Ha ha ha ha ha

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад

      Heheheh. The squeaky chair has since been upgraded!!

    • @SteveStockmalMusic
      @SteveStockmalMusic 3 года назад

      Twas a faithful companion while it lasted. LOL

  • @mryozo-lr2rl
    @mryozo-lr2rl 3 года назад

    Any update?.do you get the best mix for latency?

  • @goncaloalmeida5003
    @goncaloalmeida5003 Год назад

    Jamulus or JamKazam Whats is Better?

  • @ianbrown1474
    @ianbrown1474 3 года назад

    Really helpful walkthrough for non-IT folks. Sadly the reality for me so far has been is that shared broadband connections are so hammered at the moment with everyone at home that all of these remote jamming tools seem to fail as soon as one of the band members has an unreliable connection or a substantially different latency than the rest of the group. Roll on live music!!
    I know that you understand this and your video feeds to the band were just for the RUclips tutorial but just to comment for non IT folk that having a video feed like zoom or facetime or a youtube broadcast at the same as Jamulus is going to destroy your jamming session. You need ALL your network capacity for the jam and should close ALL other apps browers etc that use the network.
    Thanks for posting this though and I will try this tool and report back ..... :)

  • @joethedrummer9752
    @joethedrummer9752 3 года назад

    how do I create my own server on a Mac?

  • @hboder
    @hboder 4 года назад +1

    V good video

  • @noahmestre
    @noahmestre 3 года назад

    What does he mean by click tracks? Is he referring to playing external audio backing tracks or music?

    • @jmack619
      @jmack619 3 года назад

      yes, just something to set the timing for the group , I believe

  • @nuthinbutlove
    @nuthinbutlove 4 года назад +3

    This is definitely not for the tech challenged. Hopefully they'll come up with something less complicated in the very near future.

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  4 года назад +1

      I hear you! I'm trialling a rented server for a friend. If that takes off it could simplify things (at a cost).

  • @joseriha8405
    @joseriha8405 4 года назад +2

    "Windows or Mac.." works on Linux too!

  • @jeffparryncc1701
    @jeffparryncc1701 3 года назад

    Rout-er (as in trout, route) not rooter. Rooter is something completely different he he. Nice vid though :)

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  2 года назад +1

      We say route the same as root over here in Blighty. 🙂

    • @jeffparryncc1701
      @jeffparryncc1701 2 года назад +1

      @@DavidAddis :)

  • @LloydRowellJuson
    @LloydRowellJuson 3 года назад +1

    Wifi name: Pretty fly for a Wifi

  • @accidentals_hacks
    @accidentals_hacks 3 года назад +1

    Good idea, but no way to naturally rehearse without latency, it's physically impossible. Maybe in a couple years. I'll rehearse in person, thank you very much :)

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  3 года назад

      Fair enough. After having to do this for about 6 months in our band, we’ve realised we don’t particularly like rehearsing this way, but it’s better than nothing!

    • @accidentals_hacks
      @accidentals_hacks 3 года назад

      @@DavidAddis I recorded a ton of music and collaborated with people remotely during quarantine. IMO a much better and more productive use of everybody's time :) Pick out a tempo, and record all instruments separately.

  • @donjuan3296
    @donjuan3296 Год назад

    decent, but lag's still there, there's simply no technology yet to do this.

  • @belathewhite6173
    @belathewhite6173 4 года назад +1

    i appreciate the video, but it doesnt work very well does it ? in the parts where you all play the music is a mess. (no offense) but clearly a latency issue.

    • @DavidAddis
      @DavidAddis  4 года назад +2

      It's a fair point. There is latency which makes it a lot more difficult. But it is possible to set it up better than us (we have found a better 3rd-party server since I made this video, for example), so I think it can work, if you can get the latency down low enough through a combination of tech savvy and luck.

    • @eternalifeproductions
      @eternalifeproductions 3 года назад

      I was thinking the same thing, for live jamming to really work both parties need to have extremely low ping latency, I'd say 10ms or less, otherwise it's just physics at play, at around 40ms you can start to notice sync issues. Of course if your just wanting to rehearse I suppose this would work.

  • @eda.4145
    @eda.4145 2 года назад

    What the hell is a rootah?