@@rishithakur7033 but after a certain time Articles get value addition in their life and their earnings of 5-10 years after becoming CA is more than the earnings of labourers of their whole life !
To all my fellow CAs here, I have a request for all of you. Let our juniors and other students who are planning to get into CA know that it's not worth it. The Risk-Reward ratio here is a joke. Sacrificing 5-6,7,8,9 years of our lives and mental health, studying 2-3 degrees worth in a single go, clearing those tough exams with arbitrary evaluations only to see a Btech grad who learnt a course earn more than us doing a job which they got through a referral or back door and having a better work life balance. Cherry on top is the same big 4 companies pay 9lpa to CAs while paying 15-20lpa for these techies.
🧠dimaag kharab hone laga bhaiya ab toh.. 😢why don't they educate us about all of this that its pointless.. And ofc the supply will affect the earnings of CA it won't be the same as before after too much competition. what's wrong with the world😩 everyone is busy tricking one another
Bhai tum jaise chutiye dusro ko demotivate karte ho. Sharam aani chahiye. Tum अनाड़ी ho iska matlab ye nhi ki sab hee tumhare jaise hai. CA bhut Paisa banate hai. Samjhe. Tum khud kuch nhi kar paaye life me to kam se kam dusro ko to mat demotivate karo.
Salary of Average CA in 2009 as Fresher: 6-12 lakhs Inflation Adjusted in 2024 should equal to 15 lakhs -27 lakhs , but in reality Only Ranker gets 15-27 lakhs package
I request president to atleast raise the basic pay for article minimum 20k.. even a labour earns more than article.. if a student goes for articleship in other town the basic rent is 10k .. further the Salary of a CA has been so low being such a prestigious profession its not justfied at all! A MBA student from IIM gets a package of 20 lpa and a CA 10lpa .. please set some standards on it!
The current articleship scheme has significant issues that could impact students' careers. Students have only two options: either they undergo articleship across various roles or stay in one role for two years. Typically, mid-sized firms follow the former approach, while Big 4 and other top firms adhere to the latter. This limits the choices for students and essentially becomes the firm's decision on where to place articles. This can lead to dissatisfaction among students. For instance, a student who completes articleship in a mid-sized firm might lack practical readiness for a job due to insufficient exposure. Conversely, if an article spends the entire period in one role, they may become proficient in that area but lack knowledge in other expected areas. For example, if I am in an audit department, I might lack knowledge in taxation and may not be able to handle even simple tax-related tasks for a friend. On the other hand, if I gain experience in multiple roles, I might not excel in any one area. Therefore, it is essential that articles are given the opportunity to choose their preferred role. My suggestion is to offer exposure to various roles, such as audit, taxation, and advisory, in the first year to help students gain comprehensive experience and identify their interests. In the second year, articles should be assigned to their preferred role based on their interest or performance, such as taxation if that is where their interest lies. This approach would enhance students' careers and allow them to plan accordingly. Both articles and firms benefit from each other. Therefore, it is important for both to work effectively. After gaining experience in multiple roles in the first year, articles and firms will work more efficiently when articles specialize in their chosen role in the second year. This would reduce labor turnover and training costs, as articles may continue to work with the same firm after qualifying as CA. I hope ICAI considers such changes to reduce student exploitation and improve the articleship experience.
Money spent is peanuts, but opportunity cost, anxiety, frustration is phenomenal worst condition of article in many firm is not good. CA course is not same for every one sir.
There is no consistency in pass percentage of CA exams, sometimes papers are made so easy, that pass percentage crosses 20% and sometimes, they are made so difficult, lengthy, that pass percentage is hardly 8-10%. There should be parity in pass percentages over attempts.
CA degree originally meant for attestation authority as being Auditor. That was real "Chartered Accountant" In my opinion, now ICAI is producing qualified accountants for jobs in industry. An intelligent commerce graduate, who have some experience in taxation, can also do almost same job. Somewhere they are also getting more salary than CAs in Industry. Still more professionalism, expertise , deep insights and long vision qualities of CA can not be denied. But whether so long and hard course that take so many years, justify with outcome? Why new CAs are doing jobs in a stressfull corpoeate culture and in a hirerachy where boss is right? If there are ample opportunities in practice, then hardly a few will go in jobs. Industrial job is not an opportunity, its a compulsion of non opportunity in practice. We are originated for auditing the accounts, not for accounting. We are made for assuring accounting and tax compliances to authorities, not for doing job under businessman. Just my personal views.
Now CA practice is become impossible. New generation is aimed to pass CA only .Their focus is only for studies and not to do poorly paid stipend.They don't want to spoil by doing sincere work which only academic Article ship is glorified slavery only. Nowadays most of accounts are made using computer's and CA life is dedicated to research in accouting standards and income tax.So poor computer knowledge made their job at high risk.Nobody knows what is true interpretation in GST laws, apparently very simple but interpretation is very complex. Last but not least only unlucky students will join this courses.The remuneration is very less compared to the responsibility.Moreover the Institute is more interested in generating new standards rather than condition of students and role of institute for spoiling bright future. Compared CA a good central government job is more lucrative.
Bro we can do govt jobs as well lots of vacancies are available for CA's only so get your so research well them come and it depend on the person's knowledge how he can go and there is no limit for growth
Macha..CA is a wider concept, if we are not able to meet our expectations in india, we could simply complete ACCA in six months, and with our knowledge and skills we could pursue highly paid jobs outside india. Chartered Accountant is a profession, it's not solely made for INDIA, it's made for the world, as long commerce and Business exists...we'll be there :) Don't worry..beta, CA is just our FIRST STEP
Why is it always pointed out girls are interested. Girls should be joining all professions not only CA. Please stop using Girls admission to CA as a parameter to judge the growth opportunities in CA profession.
CA is economical course for a lower income group students and no competition and reservation. Agar ye teen benefit na ho to lucrative nahi hai. Goverment job grade A me competition and reservation and private se padhai ke liye paisa fenko tamasha dekho wala scene hai.
Articleship is not about learning experience it's about getting cheap labour force. It's also exploiting dream of youth like UPSC. Indian professional bodies are becoming core hub for exploration.
If 8-9 lacs is peanuts, then why did you approve of 9 LPA CTC? Make it at least 15 LPA. You only are the president sir. Don't blame members for not opting for practice, instead create better opportunities in industry through ICAI.
@@Aniketchopraji ooo acha Dt ? Mujhe toh laga tha big 4 se FMCG Mai shift karne mai tax Mai Jayda growth nahi hote ...🤔..ek baar confirm karna which department is good ..n finance department k regarding bhi puch lena pls 🙏
Articleship is nothing just bounded labour , and irony is that today students who are saying stipend is less in tomorrow when they become CA they also want to avail benefit of cheap article as employee to ensure to get a 2 year bonded labour with less pay and article can't complaint about that
Who are you to tell us to leave ?Will you return back our registration fees and exam fees? Will you return us the time we have invested in this course? If no then *shutup*. We have complete right to raise our concern in an open platform like this....
@@SAJNAELIAS-tx3zsthen study hard and pass out no one's stopping you from passing, invest your time in studying rather then commenting here and raising your concern , study hard , pass it and enjoy your life . Both your time and your money will be worth it
@@devangbhatt5520placement aapke abbu denge ..ICAI rigid srf aap jaesa studnts/CA Ke wajese hai..jinhe lgta hai ki CA pass krlia toh bhot bara lifetime achievement krlia...jbki placement report dkhlo aankh kholke smjh ajaega ki srf 22% placement hai out of total studnts passing...usmei bhi 9 lac is the avg package ..toh bhai sahab 5 se 6 saal on an average lagake upar se 2.5 yrs ka kaam krke bhi 9 lac mile toh everyone has to right to ask ques from icai...icai i s accountable...Khali prhai mei ghuse rhoge aur real life se dur rhoge toh aesehi hi bakwas kroge open forum mei ..ek baar muh uthake mba colleges ka placement report dkhlena...kidney nikl jaega olmst 80 to 90% placement aur avg salary itna hai jo ca 5 saal baad kama ne ka soche
students comparing CA and MBA may seek admission in IIMs by clearing CAT with 99+ percentile and clearing GD and PI rounds instead of crying in comments....
So you are asserting the fact that ICAI is poor in terms of quality of curriculum for CA and the overall process laid down to be a CA ??? 1ST ACCEPT this and then commnt that PPL can go for mba
@@kunalghosh3703bhai aesa hi hai...jago grahak jago se ab jago ca final studnts jago ..itna mehnat ka value hai hi nhi ...itna mehnat se toh neet aur IIT mei hojae aadmi ka...
Must Read: The current articleship scheme carry challenges that can challenge students' career growth. The limited choices-either rotating through various roles (all different roles) or specializing in one-often leaves students unprepared for the demands of the job market. Mid-sized firms may not provide enough depth, while Big 4s restrict exposure to a single area, leading to skill gaps in other critical fields. *To address this, some steps should be taken by ICAI. Students should be given exposure to multiple roles, like audit, taxation, and advisory, in the first year. This allows them to discover their strengths and interests. In the second year, they should specialize based on their performance and preference, which would not only align with their career goals but also make them more effective in their roles. This approach benefits both the students and firms, reducing turnover and enhancing long-term efficiency.* ICAI should consider such changes to improve the articleship experience and ensure students are better prepared for their future careers.
His thoughts on ground level reality is baffling. More people passed this attempt because students studied better? More students passed only because paper was set easy and they pushed border students. This whole course has become a trap.
Hardly respect for ICAI and for our 😌 honourable president and all committee, departments, who are working backstage just to strengthen our economy with this prestigious proffesion❤
1. Too much surplus of CAs 2. CA councils recommends to charge a basic certain amount from their clients (ie Personal Tax sevices) which is somehwhat on higher side. And people dont want to pay ~10K for their income to be audited & planned. Apperantly people wish to get their things done for cheap even if it compromises quality & Security. 3. In order for the pervious thing to happen Government havent made people's life easy so that they could afford such Services. BUT POINT 1&3 ARE MAINLY THE CULPIT.
Instead of doing CS CA CMA in india its better to take a MBA degree abroad.. Poor education system of India... Indian Institute like ICSI, ICMA and ICAI trap students belonging to middle class poor family... Students have to keep on paying the exam fee results will be percentage based on demand and supply but they will never accept that... People are silently tolerating all this.... These courses are given over hype projected as if it is best course high salary package thanks to the youtubers for promoting these institutes... But reality is very different....
Very soon foreign courses like US CMA , CPA ,CFA Coming in Indian market will take huge share away from institutes like ICMAI and ICAI. They will be left with nothing.
@@SAJNAELIAS-tx3zs Your suggestion is the best.Better join some reputed foreign Institute for MBA If you have no financial back take education loan.Money lost can be earned but these not in the case of age.The institute destroyed the prime age of poor students.One of my friend who got first rank in Mcom failed to complete CA final. I suggested , memorize study material and suggest answers and vomit everything as per institute views even though it is wrong.So don't use brine or knowledge while writing exam Be a book worm 🐛.
@@SAJNAELIAS-tx3zs Main attractions of CA and other courses is less fess and experiences. Institute is concerned for collecting exam fees and how to reduce pass percentage and create artificial demand. But life of young students are wasted which very expensive compared to monitory one . Like IIT and other educational setups, there no full time educational classes with good teaching facultues.Some time they are conducting classes at Institute with low paid professionals. But private coaching classes in Metro getting more money and others have no opportunity .
no point made which actually impact significantly to CA aspirants & members Apart from politics appraising the modi govt (most of these icai politics are influenced by nations politics) No wonder why adani's audit report exposed by hindenburg & not indian CAs like us
Practice has become very difficult due to unusual increase in Tax consultant, accountant and fake CA. As a practicing CA in a very small district Kokrajhar, Assam, almost most of the work is done by accountants and tax consultants. Our market is already dominated by them. Very difficult to get new clients.
Being a CA aspirant the empowerment in ghis field is no more stable ....the requirement of passing attempts qualified is going huge in random attempts ....the conspiracy for proper articleship should be proper advised
Audit, accounting and tax are backward thinking professions. Most of these works seems monotonous and boring too. That's why the young CAs are not interested to practice. Whereas there are many core finance fields like investment banking, asset management, PE, VC etc which are forward thinking jobs. These careers offer high salary and are interesting than traditional accounting and audit roles. But sadly many CAs find it difficult to land in this field unless they have a competitive advantage like vast network, articleship in big firms, All india rank etc. CA course itself is just a basics of core finance. The only paper related to finance is AFM paper which is still just basics. I recommend young CAs to take courses like CFA, FRM etc to land in finance roles.
for ca inter and final passing rates are usually still in single digit. this time there was a change in syllabus which is why passing rates were higher
ICAI is doing monopoly in terms of fees in CA course. Admission fees have increased, exam fees earlier 3300 now also the same while the papers have reduced to 6 from 8. Students need to complete the trainings before appearing final exam, i dont find any logic. Gor each spom they're charging 500 even if you fail, then why 3300 for 6 papers if you cant adjust?
Just a thought not facts: People who cleared CA within 3 attempts may be somewhere 2 to 4 k every year i.e. 4/5 years. Rest took multiple years to cleared CA on avg 6/7 years. if u considered this CA course includes much notional cost which can be near to an MBA degree but with more years of life.
Institute has increased Passing percentage... Now many of my qualified CA friends are searching for jobs and now even they are accepting jobs at lower pay. All thanks to ICAI. The industry is encouraging The CAs who have additional qualification. Now CA is becoming the next BCOM.
Being a CA i personally say that doing CA is waste of time and money.. He has not seen ground level .... there is no work for practicing chartered accountant in market this is the truth that everybody is hiding.... this is pathetic
Plz share the dropout rate, chat gpt will replace accounting and internal audit. What will CA will do? People are looking for short term course and early settlement in life. No on has whole life to write exams
Student wo kya hota h ... Member ho to apki baat sunenge kyunki members se vote milta h .Diwali k din final k papers rkhe h ...Isse jyada kya sochenge yeah Students k bare m..Last Year Campus 22% hua jisko record placement bta rhe h..Kya ummid kr skte ho aap inse....
ICAI has to think immediately otherwise value of CA profession will be nothing .... 1) ICAI has to put restriction or has to bring ban on youtube and Instagram channel who giving information about work of finance, Tax, cost, Audit, GST and so many finance related things which r work of CA .... 2) ICAI has to put restrictions on non CA people who showing as an CA and doing practice at cheap cost ... They degrading the value of CA by filing ITR or GST Registration, Return or Audit related things .....
The timeline for CA exam might lengthen as one has to paas both groups of Inter before starting 2 years articleship. Earlier people used to continue with the articleship with only one group bein cleared and used to clear another group during the articleship itself.
Rumors is that after coming New IT Code 2025 CA are not only persons to doing Audit, CS & CMA are doing also. For that reason they are opting Job rather than Firm !
If entry barrier is absent or entry screening system like JEE, NEET is absent, all student with all type of capabilities are joining the course with dream of CA/ CMA etc and increase bank balance of institute and found success rate is ~12% which is a trap and unethical part of these institutes. I just wonder, would you put your kid in a school has success rate of 12% or you shall put where success rate is 88%..it is just upside down and show how institute are enjoying students money without responsibility of students future
The CA career has lost its charm. Its only the respect that is left for CA's but no money. I read an article recently where CA's were given 3.8 LPA in ICAI campus placement. May be should have foreseen the future before taking up CA. Advice: Don't take up CA as career here onwards. This career is too dark and depressive.
@@pistonskull Gine chune kuch courses hai indian mai jisse india mai job karna possible hai aise dekha jaye to india mai job hi nai hai bass competitive exams ki taiaari wali jobs hai
@Tushar get a life bro...the remuneration in ca is nothing compared to the hard work and toil that one gets during its phase...9 se 10 lac ka package woh bhi after multiple rounds of interview n competition...it's totally crap...itna efforts 2.5 yrs of practical training plus ca final...n uske baad 9 lac ka package ke liae rat race ..18 lac ka package avg mei hota toh smjh bhi ata rat race ka waja
sir you are not doing to lift small Ca and Every tender are putting such restriction so that Smal CA are outrightly out of comptetion as such 50 lacs trunover and pre experince of Govt Audit
Sir pls dont give bumper results in CA Final like may 24. We are not getting jobs. Due to such supply Companies are offering 32000 - 50000 per month only and that too in metro cities. Fo that they are conducting psychometric test to filter the candidates. Situation is very bad for recently qualified CAs.
@@aaakku05see the job market is very bad rn. Situations not in favour of CAs or even any other professions. Times like these come and go. U don't need to doubt the course. Times will get better. Good luck to you - from may 24 passed CA
I m a CA cleared the final exam in 11th attempts..I hv recent package 10lpa but I want to switch tge Job...but not not succeed. is there growth in my field or not
Please don’t make fun of his English accent. It’s not his first language. Only we Indians have this colonial mindset look at other countries, they don’t even talk in any language other than their mother tongue
😂 APNNI PRECTICE KARNE KE LIYE DO TIN VERS Ka ghar ka kharcha chalane ka funds uske pas hona chahiye + apni office ka bhi kharcha bhi aata hai 😅 Isliye middle class ke paas itna Paisa nahi hota hai tab Voh CA LADKE NOUKARI MEIN JATE HAI MAJBOORI MEIN 🔥
@@Captainsimoo it seems you are his bhakt student 😂 the another shameless guy/girl/transgender whatever you are and can create ruckus with an hidden identity. I don't think you are a CA or atleast an commerce PG, because a person who spends his years of efforts in doing his articleship and clearing the exams would completely agree to what I have expressed. The quality of education has went so bad that CAs are finding job who are supposed to be giving jobs to many others. Unfortunately in field of commerce CA is the only degree(with chota bhai ICWAI) which can generate employment instead of getting employed, and the system has made them so lame that they are finding a job instead of creating them. And don't worry these jobs too will be taken away with the upcoming GPT and AI models. And see your Ranjeet Agarwal is endorsing it instead of developing an strengthening the curriculum. Developing AI is engineer's work and they will do it whether ICAI support them or not because it is benefiting them. The most shameful thing he agrees that two major biggest commerce sectors viz, Banking and Insurance doesnot follows local standards. A much shameful thing that apna ghar bharne mein ye log is haad tak nikal gaye ki anewali pidhi ka bhavishya hi kharaab kar diya. Ofcourse they have created bhakts like you who will feed them even after their retirement. Feels pitty for people's like you.
Utha uthake audits cs sma ko de rhe ho toh ek ca aur kya karega...unko dene mein koi dikkat nahi...but equality toh tab hogi jab cost audit and secreterial audits ke right ca ko bhi mile
Stipend: Rs500
Workload: Rs100000
500/day good man
@@Ravi-p6j no, very less. We want atleast 2000
Bro 60,000 p.m as stipend not possible😂@@Ishaan-r1s
Training
@@Ravi-p6j5000 per month dude
Articles are cheaper than labourers😂😂
@@rishithakur7033 but after a certain time Articles get value addition in their life and their earnings of 5-10 years after becoming CA is more than the earnings of labourers of their whole life !
Training
Correct even in terms of respect also
Bro mere idhar to sahi chal raaha hai
@@aaakku05 Banglore ya Mumbai se ho !
To all my fellow CAs here, I have a request for all of you. Let our juniors and other students who are planning to get into CA know that it's not worth it. The Risk-Reward ratio here is a joke. Sacrificing 5-6,7,8,9 years of our lives and mental health, studying 2-3 degrees worth in a single go, clearing those tough exams with arbitrary evaluations only to see a Btech grad who learnt a course earn more than us doing a job which they got through a referral or back door and having a better work life balance. Cherry on top is the same big 4 companies pay 9lpa to CAs while paying 15-20lpa for these techies.
🧠dimaag kharab hone laga bhaiya ab toh.. 😢why don't they educate us about all of this that its pointless.. And ofc the supply will affect the earnings of CA it won't be the same as before after too much competition. what's wrong with the world😩 everyone is busy tricking one another
Bhai tum jaise chutiye dusro ko demotivate karte ho. Sharam aani chahiye. Tum अनाड़ी ho iska matlab ye nhi ki sab hee tumhare jaise hai. CA bhut Paisa banate hai. Samjhe. Tum khud kuch nhi kar paaye life me to kam se kam dusro ko to mat demotivate karo.
Don't worry after experience of 4-5 yrs you will get minimum 15 lpa@@Harshitachouhan-i3x
@@mayan9714 what job guarantee you have jhaatu?
Precisely accurate
Salary of Average CA in 2009 as Fresher: 6-12 lakhs
Inflation Adjusted in 2024 should equal to 15 lakhs -27 lakhs , but in reality Only Ranker gets 15-27 lakhs package
I request president to atleast raise the basic pay for article minimum 20k.. even a labour earns more than article.. if a student goes for articleship in other town the basic rent is 10k .. further the Salary of a CA has been so low being such a prestigious profession its not justfied at all! A MBA student from IIM gets a package of 20 lpa and a CA 10lpa .. please set some standards on it!
The current articleship scheme has significant issues that could impact students' careers. Students have only two options: either they undergo articleship across various roles or stay in one role for two years. Typically, mid-sized firms follow the former approach, while Big 4 and other top firms adhere to the latter. This limits the choices for students and essentially becomes the firm's decision on where to place articles. This can lead to dissatisfaction among students.
For instance, a student who completes articleship in a mid-sized firm might lack practical readiness for a job due to insufficient exposure. Conversely, if an article spends the entire period in one role, they may become proficient in that area but lack knowledge in other expected areas. For example, if I am in an audit department, I might lack knowledge in taxation and may not be able to handle even simple tax-related tasks for a friend. On the other hand, if I gain experience in multiple roles, I might not excel in any one area.
Therefore, it is essential that articles are given the opportunity to choose their preferred role. My suggestion is to offer exposure to various roles, such as audit, taxation, and advisory, in the first year to help students gain comprehensive experience and identify their interests. In the second year, articles should be assigned to their preferred role based on their interest or performance, such as taxation if that is where their interest lies.
This approach would enhance students' careers and allow them to plan accordingly. Both articles and firms benefit from each other. Therefore, it is important for both to work effectively. After gaining experience in multiple roles in the first year, articles and firms will work more efficiently when articles specialize in their chosen role in the second year. This would reduce labor turnover and training costs, as articles may continue to work with the same firm after qualifying as CA.
I hope ICAI considers such changes to reduce student exploitation and improve the articleship experience.
ye kaha se copy paste Kiya hai @@gyanendrakami486
mba student from IIM gets more. well you might not be aware of fee of IIM? CA has way better roi
@@saiyan147Yes correct if you invested more earn more
Even social media influencer earns more .. sometimes it's not Just abt earning..
Neeraj Chopra - 89.49 meters
This guy - 8949 meters
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Money spent is peanuts, but opportunity cost, anxiety, frustration is phenomenal worst condition of article in many firm is not good. CA course is not same for every one sir.
There is no consistency in pass percentage of CA exams, sometimes papers are made so easy, that pass percentage crosses 20% and sometimes, they are made so difficult, lengthy, that pass percentage is hardly 8-10%.
There should be parity in pass percentages over attempts.
CA degree originally meant for attestation authority as being Auditor.
That was real "Chartered Accountant"
In my opinion, now ICAI is producing qualified accountants for jobs in industry.
An intelligent commerce graduate, who have some experience in taxation, can also do almost same job. Somewhere they are also getting more salary than CAs in Industry.
Still more professionalism, expertise , deep insights and long vision qualities of CA can not be denied.
But whether so long and hard course that take so many years, justify with outcome?
Why new CAs are doing jobs in a stressfull corpoeate culture and in a hirerachy where boss is right?
If there are ample opportunities in practice, then hardly a few will go in jobs.
Industrial job is not an opportunity, its a compulsion of non opportunity in practice.
We are originated for auditing the accounts, not for accounting.
We are made for assuring accounting and tax compliances to authorities, not for doing job under businessman.
Just my personal views.
GREAT COMMENT
Sir where commerce graduates are earning more than CA?
Now CA practice is become impossible.
New generation is aimed to pass CA only .Their focus is only for studies and not to do poorly paid stipend.They don't want to spoil by doing sincere work which only academic Article ship is glorified slavery only.
Nowadays most of accounts are made using computer's and CA life is dedicated to research in accouting standards and income tax.So poor computer knowledge made their job at high risk.Nobody knows what is true interpretation in GST laws, apparently very simple but interpretation is very complex.
Last but not least only unlucky students will join this courses.The remuneration is very less compared to the responsibility.Moreover the Institute is more interested in generating new standards rather than condition of students and role of institute for spoiling bright future.
Compared CA a good central government job is more lucrative.
Bro we can do govt jobs as well lots of vacancies are available for CA's only so get your so research well them come and it depend on the person's knowledge how he can go and there is no limit for growth
new standards are introduced as they follow global acceptance also the old ones were really outdated
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@@yashverma0778 which govt job please tell
Macha..CA is a wider concept, if we are not able to meet our expectations in india, we could simply complete ACCA in six months, and with our knowledge and skills we could pursue highly paid jobs outside india. Chartered Accountant is a profession, it's not solely made for INDIA, it's made for the world, as long commerce and Business exists...we'll be there :)
Don't worry..beta, CA is just our FIRST STEP
Why is it always pointed out girls are interested. Girls should be joining all professions not only CA. Please stop using Girls admission to CA as a parameter to judge the growth opportunities in CA profession.
CA is economical course for a lower income group students and no competition and reservation. Agar ye teen benefit na ho to lucrative nahi hai. Goverment job grade A me competition and reservation and private se padhai ke liye paisa fenko tamasha dekho wala scene hai.
1:12 - Start
2:46 - Youngsters don’t have patience
Lol
Oh god 🤣🤣
youngster already kept patience while preparing for 5 years
Accounting with innovation 💡
Auditing with innovation 💡
Articleship is not about learning experience it's about getting cheap labour force. It's also exploiting dream of youth like UPSC. Indian professional bodies are becoming core hub for exploration.
If 8-9 lacs is peanuts, then why did you approve of 9 LPA CTC? Make it at least 15 LPA. You only are the president sir. Don't blame members for not opting for practice, instead create better opportunities in industry through ICAI.
@@Aniketchopraji Oh woww...ur neighbour is in which department ?
@@sakshiraturi005 feku dept.
@@gyanendrakami486 sbko aapni trh mt smjh Bhai
@@Aniketchopraji ohh stat audit ? Thanks for replying ☺️
@@Aniketchopraji ooo acha Dt ? Mujhe toh laga tha big 4 se FMCG Mai shift karne mai tax Mai Jayda growth nahi hote ...🤔..ek baar confirm karna which department is good ..n finance department k regarding bhi puch lena pls 🙏
He is the greatest person at giving non-answers
No English language is harmed by Mr president 😂
Thats good 😂
English is other thing bro ...
Bro Professional Ethics😂
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Chill man.. it's just a way to deliver your thoughts
Articleship is nothing just bounded labour , and irony is that today students who are saying stipend is less in tomorrow when they become CA they also want to avail benefit of cheap article as employee to ensure to get a 2 year bonded labour with less pay and article can't complaint about that
THE ONLY REASON WHY THEY GLORIFY THIS COURSE AS NEXT TO GOD
Those who are thinking ca has no future can leave this course ......instead of commenting 😂
Who are you to tell us to leave ?Will you return back our registration fees and exam fees? Will you return us the time we have invested in this course? If no then *shutup*. We have complete right to raise our concern in an open platform like this....
Tumhe itna hi tha toh is course me enroll kyu kiya? @@SAJNAELIAS-tx3zs
@@SAJNAELIAS-tx3zsthen study hard and pass out no one's stopping you from passing, invest your time in studying rather then commenting here and raising your concern , study hard , pass it and enjoy your life . Both your time and your money will be worth it
@@sahilpawar4995 We are just warning poor and innocent students about the atrocities and exam terrorism of the institute.
@@devangbhatt5520placement aapke abbu denge ..ICAI rigid srf aap jaesa studnts/CA Ke wajese hai..jinhe lgta hai ki CA pass krlia toh bhot bara lifetime achievement krlia...jbki placement report dkhlo aankh kholke smjh ajaega ki srf 22% placement hai out of total studnts passing...usmei bhi 9 lac is the avg package ..toh bhai sahab 5 se 6 saal on an average lagake upar se 2.5 yrs ka kaam krke bhi 9 lac mile toh everyone has to right to ask ques from icai...icai i s accountable...Khali prhai mei ghuse rhoge aur real life se dur rhoge toh aesehi hi bakwas kroge open forum mei ..ek baar muh uthake mba colleges ka placement report dkhlena...kidney nikl jaega olmst 80 to 90% placement aur avg salary itna hai jo ca 5 saal baad kama ne ka soche
one and only reason - Non CA in town practice showing themself CA and capturing market. so new CA coming have to file ITR @ 299
Kaunsi city/town se ho bhai?
In my area it's 100rs😂
Absolutely, tax audit done by ca only that too for rs 2,000 by providing qualified audit report 😂😂😢😢
Me who is Ca finalist charged minimum 2000-3000 per ITR
Rate gira ke kaam Mt kro
@@HemanthGM-qc9lv kaha se ho aap? 😀
students comparing CA and MBA may seek admission in IIMs by clearing CAT with 99+ percentile and clearing GD and PI rounds instead of crying in comments....
So you are asserting the fact that ICAI is poor in terms of quality of curriculum for CA and the overall process laid down to be a CA ???
1ST ACCEPT this and then commnt that PPL can go for mba
@@pkhatoon9236that is not what he said. u have 0 comprehension skills
@@pkhatoon9236 lavdyaa teri g me dum ho toh cat clear karke iim abc me admission leke dikha, phir CA pe comment karna
@@pkhatoon9236 are you ret@rd?
What about reservaton???????? it's difficult for General catergory to get into IIM
1. qualified CA
2. Searching for job
3. Not found a decent job yet?
4. Not found a decent job yet 😢
Kya baat kar rahe ho sir 😅
Really?
Aisa mat bolo 😢
@@kunalghosh3703bhai aesa hi hai...jago grahak jago se ab jago ca final studnts jago ..itna mehnat ka value hai hi nhi ...itna mehnat se toh neet aur IIT mei hojae aadmi ka...
Sach me ?
Must Read:
The current articleship scheme carry challenges that can challenge students' career growth. The limited choices-either rotating through various roles (all different roles) or specializing in one-often leaves students unprepared for the demands of the job market. Mid-sized firms may not provide enough depth, while Big 4s restrict exposure to a single area, leading to skill gaps in other critical fields.
*To address this, some steps should be taken by ICAI. Students should be given exposure to multiple roles, like audit, taxation, and advisory, in the first year. This allows them to discover their strengths and interests. In the second year, they should specialize based on their performance and preference, which would not only align with their career goals but also make them more effective in their roles. This approach benefits both the students and firms, reducing turnover and enhancing long-term efficiency.*
ICAI should consider such changes to improve the articleship experience and ensure students are better prepared for their future careers.
His thoughts on ground level reality is baffling. More people passed this attempt because students studied better? More students passed only because paper was set easy and they pushed border students. This whole course has become a trap.
People in India CA is equal to MBA, this is the biggest Joke😂😂
Watching at 2x still thinks it's not at appropriate speed
Haha us , no point made which actually impact significantly to CA aspirants & members
Us Bro Us
Hardly respect for ICAI and for our 😌 honourable president and all committee, departments, who are working backstage just to strengthen our economy with this prestigious proffesion❤
Your Inglis bahut achha
1. Too much surplus of CAs
2. CA councils recommends to charge a basic certain amount from their clients (ie Personal Tax sevices) which is somehwhat on higher side. And people dont want to pay ~10K for their income to be audited & planned. Apperantly people wish to get their things done for cheap even if it compromises quality & Security.
3. In order for the pervious thing to happen Government havent made people's life easy so that they could afford such Services.
BUT POINT 1&3 ARE MAINLY THE CULPIT.
Not at all, on the contrary i happened to read an article in the newspaper which read that india needs a lot more CAs when india becomes developed
Correct
The best thing of ca course is that CA is reservation free..........if you are skilled enough you earn enough accordingly
The worst part of this course is articleship. Moreover the rules and regulations governing articleship are so outdated
Instead of doing CS CA CMA in india its better to take a MBA degree abroad.. Poor education system of India... Indian Institute like ICSI, ICMA and ICAI trap students belonging to middle class poor family... Students have to keep on paying the exam fee results will be percentage based on demand and supply but they will never accept that... People are silently tolerating all this.... These courses are given over hype projected as if it is best course high salary package thanks to the youtubers for promoting these institutes... But reality is very different....
Very soon foreign courses like US CMA , CPA ,CFA Coming in Indian market will take huge share away from institutes like ICMAI and ICAI. They will be left with nothing.
Hey king you drop this 👑
@@SAJNAELIAS-tx3zs Your suggestion is the best.Better join some reputed foreign Institute for MBA If you have no financial back take education loan.Money lost can be earned but these not in the case of age.The institute destroyed the prime age of poor students.One of my friend who got first rank in Mcom failed to complete CA final. I suggested , memorize study material and suggest answers and vomit everything as per institute views even though it is wrong.So don't use brine or knowledge while writing exam Be a book worm 🐛.
True
@@SAJNAELIAS-tx3zs Main attractions of CA and other courses is less fess and experiences. Institute is concerned for collecting exam fees and how to reduce pass percentage and create artificial demand.
But life of young students are wasted which very expensive compared to monitory one .
Like IIT and other educational setups, there no full time educational classes with good teaching facultues.Some time they are conducting classes at Institute with low paid professionals.
But private coaching classes in Metro getting more money and others have no opportunity .
Believe it or not CA is the best course, just the perspective of the person should be correct.
President sir should do something for the upliftment of new practicing CA. CAs should start adopting new technologies. Nice interview.
After listening to his english I can assume why students get fail in Law examination mostly.
😂😂😂
What??? Institute has increased job opportunities???😂😂😂 Its Multinationals increased the job opportunities.... institute kuch nahi kiya !!!
no point made which actually impact significantly to CA aspirants & members
Apart from politics appraising the modi govt (most of these icai politics are influenced by nations politics)
No wonder why adani's audit report exposed by hindenburg & not indian CAs like us
The day resigned as its auditor became clear
Totally agree with you man
Agree👍
Thankyou ET now for giving us chance to listen Ranjeet Agarwal sir.
Requesting the stipend to be raised for articles
Well asked questions and superbly answered by the respected the president of ICAI Shri Ranjeet Agarwal Sir🙏
They tell all cheap things and get us stuck in course.
Cheap course
That's why go for acca cfa Or such other courses. Ca is not everything in the world
Practice has become very difficult due to unusual increase in Tax consultant, accountant and fake CA.
As a practicing CA in a very small district Kokrajhar, Assam, almost most of the work is done by accountants and tax consultants. Our market is already dominated by them. Very difficult to get new clients.
TRUE GST RETURNS AND ITR RETURNS ARE FILED BY ACCOUNTANTS MOSTLY . ONLY THEY APPROACH CA FOR AUDIT
Being a CA aspirant the empowerment in ghis field is no more stable ....the requirement of passing attempts qualified is going huge in random attempts ....the conspiracy for proper articleship should be proper advised
Audit, accounting and tax are backward thinking professions. Most of these works seems monotonous and boring too. That's why the young CAs are not interested to practice. Whereas there are many core finance fields like investment banking, asset management, PE, VC etc which are forward thinking jobs. These careers offer high salary and are interesting than traditional accounting and audit roles. But sadly many CAs find it difficult to land in this field unless they have a competitive advantage like vast network, articleship in big firms, All india rank etc. CA course itself is just a basics of core finance. The only paper related to finance is AFM paper which is still just basics. I recommend young CAs to take courses like CFA, FRM etc to land in finance roles.
EXACTLY TRUE EVEN AFM IS THEORETICAL LESS CONNECTED TO PRACTICAL KNOWLEDGE .
ICAI should increase the stipend
Ranjeet sir know how a ca can change this country to become job giver not job seeker🎉🎉
25% passing result. Supply of CA is huge rather than demand. Engineers jaise haal hone wala hai CA ka.
entry level pe barrier lagaav, exit pe chaati pitana
Bhai icai pass na kare to tumhara rona aur pass kar de to tumhara rona 😂
is baar hi aya tha khali
for ca inter and final passing rates are usually still in single digit. this time there was a change in syllabus which is why passing rates were higher
😂
ITR filed for 500 and gst filed for 500 , tax audit filed for 5k. 😅
WHY 5000 . MA TOH 3000 DETA HU SIGN KRNE KE . YOU ARE PAYING 2000 MORE BRO
Many of CA's are lack of jobs due to downstrove of demand of CA's
Recently 20k CA are passed on may 24 but there is no decent jobs🥲
No demand due to huge supply I got 4.5 lpa offer in a mnc
Rather than doing CA i suggest to gp for MBA from b schools put those efforts on gmat and 2 years of mba ....its worth than CA
Even MBA will loose value soon. Too much hype
ICAI is doing monopoly in terms of fees in CA course. Admission fees have increased, exam fees earlier 3300 now also the same while the papers have reduced to 6 from 8. Students need to complete the trainings before appearing final exam, i dont find any logic. Gor each spom they're charging 500 even if you fail, then why 3300 for 6 papers if you cant adjust?
Just a thought not facts: People who cleared CA within 3 attempts may be somewhere 2 to 4 k every year i.e. 4/5 years. Rest took multiple years to cleared CA on avg 6/7 years. if u considered this CA course includes much notional cost which can be near to an MBA degree but with more years of life.
Institute has increased Passing percentage... Now many of my qualified CA friends are searching for jobs and now even they are accepting jobs at lower pay. All thanks to ICAI.
The industry is encouraging The CAs who have additional qualification. Now CA is becoming the next BCOM.
CA can never become Bcom
@@gaminghellfire what have you cleared ? ... How old are you ??
@@ayushapaleja0712 11th grade. Cleared class 10 with 94%.
Ur just child, i cleared 12th with 97% this year, and the way ICAI is handling CAs , ... He is saying truth.@@gaminghellfire
You have a very filthy dirty mindset that you are spreading filth so shamelessly
Being a CA i personally say that doing CA is waste of time and money.. He has not seen ground level .... there is no work for practicing chartered accountant in market this is the truth that everybody is hiding.... this is pathetic
job is good???
Dont spread false rumours here
@@TIGER-jy4urno false rumour , it is the ground reality and this Modi government is also responsible for this
@@ronaldreagan878 CA are always in demand and they are earning huge Finance is the blood of business and CA are needed for managing finance
Yeah i think this govt have not done anything if favours of practice CA
Namaste Sir ,
Great Sir
Sir you answered the question of the interviewer in a deliberate manner and Sir you are very humble.
Was that sarcasm?
Clearing CA itself is practice 😅
ICAI President looks like Rajasthan CM Bhajanlal Sharma
Plz share the dropout rate, chat gpt will replace accounting and internal audit. What will CA will do? People are looking for short term course and early settlement in life. No on has whole life to write exams
are you internal auditor or accountant ?
but chatgpt does not have signing authority😂😂
Job they are offering 4.5 lack package so decided to do practice
ICAI political leader made no of ca for only voting bank don’t thing about future one day we will like engineer
8:00 he said "the credit goes to ca" wtf 😒
Student wo kya hota h ... Member ho to apki baat sunenge kyunki members se vote milta h .Diwali k din final k papers rkhe h ...Isse jyada kya sochenge yeah Students k bare m..Last Year Campus 22% hua jisko record placement bta rhe h..Kya ummid kr skte ho aap inse....
ICAI has to think immediately otherwise value of CA profession will be nothing ....
1) ICAI has to put restriction or has to bring ban on youtube and Instagram channel who giving information about work of finance, Tax, cost, Audit, GST and so many finance related things which r work of CA ....
2) ICAI has to put restrictions on non CA people who showing as an CA and doing practice at cheap cost ... They degrading the value of CA by filing ITR or GST Registration, Return or Audit related things .....
Dear president sir 🙏
Bring the newly advanced knowledge courses
Outdated syllabus also included in new syllabus
So plz improve it 😢
DUNIYA AI PA CHALI GYI AUR YE LOG AUDIT KI BOOK MA JAISA LIKHA H WAISA HI PAPER MA LIKHO IS PR HI ATAKE HUE HAI
It's should be choice of every student either he pursue in job or practice simple.😅
Registration increased in foundation but success rate have become half compare to earlier
The timeline for CA exam might lengthen as one has to paas both groups of Inter before starting 2 years articleship. Earlier people used to continue with the articleship with only one group bein cleared and used to clear another group during the articleship itself.
Sir ki vocabulary thodi alag hai 😊
😭
Rumors is that after coming New IT Code 2025 CA are not only persons to doing Audit, CS & CMA are doing also. For that reason they are opting Job rather than Firm !
Exams has been postponed for few days, so the correction window will open to allow students to change location
To the ICAI president
Subject - want your opinion about Nahata claiming on making students CA
Articleship ❌coolie✅
Ca is becoming like a bcom in future,
MANY CA NOT HAVE GOOD JOB AT HIGHER PAY ,MORE THAN 1000000 p.a
Because supply of CA very higher day by day as compare earliest
Institute conducting classes is a good initiative
If entry barrier is absent or entry screening system like JEE, NEET is absent, all student with all type of capabilities are joining the course with dream of CA/ CMA etc and increase bank balance of institute and found success rate is ~12% which is a trap and unethical part of these institutes. I just wonder, would you put your kid in a school has success rate of 12% or you shall put where success rate is 88%..it is just upside down and show how institute are enjoying students money without responsibility of students future
The CA career has lost its charm. Its only the respect that is left for CA's but no money. I read an article recently where CA's were given 3.8 LPA in ICAI campus placement. May be should have foreseen the future before taking up CA.
Advice: Don't take up CA as career here onwards. This career is too dark and depressive.
CA as a procession is over rated in India....in abroad there is zero value of CA
Bhai spelling check kar le phele profession ki. aise toh sabhi courses overrated hai India mai
@@pistonskull Gine chune kuch courses hai indian mai jisse india mai job karna possible hai aise dekha jaye to india mai job hi nai hai bass competitive exams ki taiaari wali jobs hai
True 😢@@aaakku05
Proud to be a CA Aspirant ✨
Cringe 😒
But won't be proud being a CA
Kiddo why do you cry 😂think so bro didn't even cleared his foundation 😂😂😂@@EconomicsPoint35
@@EconomicsPoint35agreeee
@Tushar get a life bro...the remuneration in ca is nothing compared to the hard work and toil that one gets during its phase...9 se 10 lac ka package woh bhi after multiple rounds of interview n competition...it's totally crap...itna efforts 2.5 yrs of practical training plus ca final...n uske baad 9 lac ka package ke liae rat race ..18 lac ka package avg mei hota toh smjh bhi ata rat race ka waja
sir you are not doing to lift small Ca and Every tender are putting such restriction so that Smal CA are outrightly out of comptetion as such 50 lacs trunover and pre experince of Govt Audit
Jitna new ca nikelnge utna base salary kam ho jayegi kyu practice vala free rolega iss badhiya jo milega bnda usmai kaam krega
Sir pls dont give bumper results in CA Final like may 24. We are not getting jobs. Due to such supply Companies are offering 32000 - 50000 per month only and that too in metro cities. Fo that they are conducting psychometric test to filter the candidates. Situation is very bad for recently qualified CAs.
Are you a C.A.
@@vivekdhiman8868 Comment dekh ke lag raha hai galt profession choose kr li maine
@@aaakku05see the job market is very bad rn. Situations not in favour of CAs or even any other professions. Times like these come and go. U don't need to doubt the course. Times will get better. Good luck to you
- from may 24 passed CA
You have a very dirty filthy jealous mindset
I m a CA cleared the final exam in 11th attempts..I hv recent package 10lpa but I want to switch tge Job...but not not succeed. is there growth in my field or not
Why state Govt audits are not done by charted accountants
Sir ca students kaliye icai ko 1 ICAI kii car deni chayia, jise sab jane kii ye chartered accountant hai
😂😂😂
Agreed
KYUNKI PRACTICE KREGA TOH KHAREEDNE MA TIME LAGEGAA🤣
he is so fluent
Money spent on CA
TCS provide Ca 3.86 lacs package. What people do
tcs has bad history for providing such packages to btech and now cas no one take them serious btw
ive never met any CA with less than 9 lpa. just get a better skillset.
Icai is destroying ca dignity, passing percentage is increasing drastically😢
Passing % kam karo tab bhi tumlog ka rona hai, Badhao tab bhi tumlog ka rona hai....
@ kya problem hai passing badh gaya toh
Acha hai log pass ho gaye toh
@Pzx1244 job bhi milni chahiye🤣
@@Mohit-i8k ha wo toh mil jayegi degreee toh hai warna khud bhi practice kar lege tds itr file karke
Sir given every answer perfect.
The perfomance of student is increased handsomely wtf he is saying rip english atti nahi mat bolo hindi bolo
His grammar is actually right
@@WhyyVarun_ right but can he use good words
Please don’t make fun of his English accent. It’s not his first language. Only we Indians have this colonial mindset look at other countries, they don’t even talk in any language other than their mother tongue
CCM and this jethalal destroy profession
My 4 friends are CA & 1 friend is Software engineer. Fun fact is 4 friends combine current salary and networth is less than the 1 friend.
Excellent deliberation sir ji
😂 APNNI PRECTICE KARNE KE LIYE DO TIN VERS Ka ghar ka kharcha chalane ka funds uske pas hona chahiye + apni office ka bhi kharcha bhi aata hai 😅 Isliye middle class ke paas itna Paisa nahi hota hai tab Voh CA LADKE NOUKARI MEIN JATE HAI MAJBOORI MEIN 🔥
Sacrifice and rewards in this course is not equal
He should feel some shame about what he is justifying.
On gender part he is sheer shameless person. Still why the gender ratio is not proportionate.
And you call yourself a doctor 😂🤣
@@Captainsimoo it seems you are his bhakt student 😂 the another shameless guy/girl/transgender whatever you are and can create ruckus with an hidden identity.
I don't think you are a CA or atleast an commerce PG, because a person who spends his years of efforts in doing his articleship and clearing the exams would completely agree to what I have expressed.
The quality of education has went so bad that CAs are finding job who are supposed to be giving jobs to many others.
Unfortunately in field of commerce CA is the only degree(with chota bhai ICWAI) which can generate employment instead of getting employed, and the system has made them so lame that they are finding a job instead of creating them.
And don't worry these jobs too will be taken away with the upcoming GPT and AI models. And see your Ranjeet Agarwal is endorsing it instead of developing an strengthening the curriculum. Developing AI is engineer's work and they will do it whether ICAI support them or not because it is benefiting them.
The most shameful thing he agrees that two major biggest commerce sectors viz, Banking and Insurance doesnot follows local standards. A much shameful thing that apna ghar bharne mein ye log is haad tak nikal gaye ki anewali pidhi ka bhavishya hi kharaab kar diya. Ofcourse they have created bhakts like you who will feed them even after their retirement. Feels pitty for people's like you.
@@Captainsimoo he is looking like a doctor who stole a honorary doctorate
AI, Software , and CAGPT nothing work.. what is the step is taking for Young member be CA not go Jobs. Why he or she have to struggle for job .
Utha uthake audits cs sma ko de rhe ho toh ek ca aur kya karega...unko dene mein koi dikkat nahi...but equality toh tab hogi jab cost audit and secreterial audits ke right ca ko bhi mile