Salt and Soda firing a Wood-fired Phoenix Kiln

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024

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  • @dre_lha
    @dre_lha 2 года назад +2

    Thank you so much for posting a video as such. It greatly helped a pottery enthusiast like me to understand the mechanics of kiln building and pottery firing.

  • @clayeasy
    @clayeasy 2 года назад +2

    What a great kiln! And absolutely lovely result! Greetings from Finland!

  • @RaulGonzalez-su6uy
    @RaulGonzalez-su6uy Год назад

    I prefer comercial glasses they are much better and the foreign will last less time to reach the glass melted.

  • @TheFierro70
    @TheFierro70 4 года назад +1

    Wow! Very nice kiln and pieces. I want to make an smaller version of this kiln. Hope I can do it this year. Congratulations and thanks for sharing!

  • @jward9637
    @jward9637 2 года назад +1

    Very nice! Thank you for sharing. You’ve convinced me to build a gas kiln.

  • @BonsaiBrandy
    @BonsaiBrandy 5 месяцев назад

    hi kevin,
    you mention at 13:53 that when salting you aim to keep the temperature between 1220 and 1260 degrees. this seems quite a small range, what problems would you have if you were off one way or the other?

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  5 месяцев назад +1

      Hi. For me this is mainly about reproducibility. I only fire about twice a year and I don’t want to start experimenting with different firing regimes when I have six months of work inside. The salting takes over two hours and at the end cone 12 is most of the way down at the top of the kiln. I think if I allowed the temperature to go much outside that range over the salting period then my pots might be over or under fired. I have heard more recently about lower temperature soda firing, so I think it must be possible, but I’m already well down a different path.

  • @elizabethwatson71
    @elizabethwatson71 Год назад

    Are you burning pine? You are getting ALOT of creosote spoke and ash build up. Forgot to mention…if you put a cast iron lidded pot in there you could have a hell of a “potters stew”.

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  Год назад +1

      Yes - quite a bit of pine, mixed with holly and birch. It’s just what grows locally. Also, later I discovered that my firebox floor had collapsed and blocked my mousehole, so now that is fixed maybe the embers will burn out a bit more. I wish I had a horizontal flue I could put a cook pot on top of - maybe my next kiln?

  • @Selamg1
    @Selamg1 Год назад +1

    Great work !
    From Addis Ababa, Ethiopia 👍🇪🇹

  • @jesseschlenker7076
    @jesseschlenker7076 Год назад

    Hi, I love your kiln. Good job and thank you you making the video. Do you have a link to plans if I were to build my own?

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  Год назад

      Hi thanks Jesse. I don't have plans that were intended for others to use, but I can send you what I have if that is of any interest. Email me at kevin.akhurst@btinternet.com if you would like them

  • @steveturpin4242
    @steveturpin4242 3 года назад +1

    You know your kiln well...a great firing! Thanks.

  • @scottartsandcraft
    @scottartsandcraft 7 месяцев назад

    Are the pots bisque fiired first and are you also glazing them along with salt firing?

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  7 месяцев назад +1

      Hi. Yes I normally bisque first as I find glazing easier and the glaze firing isn’t too long when I’m firing solo. I did fire some raw glazed pieces once as they were too big for my bisque kiln. For that one I started firing one day, closed the kiln up for the night and then finished firing the following day. I used to always use slips in the top half of the kiln and glazes in the bottom, where the temperatures and amount of salt/soda are lower. More recently I have been putting glazes high in the kiln, where they are usually changed by the salt/soda

  • @raysville7256
    @raysville7256 10 месяцев назад

    Xcellent results

  • @Selamg1
    @Selamg1 Год назад

    Hi Kevin
    What material of kiln shelf & props are best in the reduction salt & soda firing ? Thank you. I have learned a lot from your sharing the video. From Addis Ababa

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  Год назад

      Hi. I'm glad you have found the video useful. I'm not an expert on kiln furniture, but I use ordinary cordierite shelves and heavy fire bricks cut to various sizes for the props. The kiln shelves are coated with batt wash on the upper surface (not on the lower surface as I don't want bits flaking off and falling on the pots beneath). After each firing I scrape off any loose batt wash and brush more on where the shelf has become exposed. If you are planning to spray soda you should avoid light-weight silicon carbide shelves as the thermal shock of the spray cracks them.

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  Год назад

      I should have mentioned that I also dip each end of the kiln props in batt wash, as well as using wadding pads between the props and the shelves

  • @natashacloutier3285
    @natashacloutier3285 7 месяцев назад

    This was so informative and fun to watch your process. I am just a beginner so watching you was a extreme boost for me. Thank you. I hope you have many more videos. 😊

  • @iremcalscpala8
    @iremcalscpala8 Год назад

    thank you sharing your knowledge. we are trying to learn wood firing and this video is so usefull thank you again

  • @mariposa1112
    @mariposa1112 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you. Getting ready in the next month to do my first salt and soda firing in a Catenary Kiln. The process makes much more sense now that I have watched your video.

  • @КостянтинЛахтадир
    @КостянтинЛахтадир 2 месяца назад

    Скільки кубів дров Ви використовуєте при випаленні?

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  2 месяца назад

      Around 2 cubic metres, but this is quite thin round wood, for fast burning - no more than 10 cm diameter and a good proportion much thinner than that

  • @johnnavarro9169
    @johnnavarro9169 3 года назад

    Good job. I like your kiln. I built an olsen wood fired kiln about 30 years ago. I run a gas trolley kiln now but have always wanted a salt fire wood kiln. It has a natural beauty that is very impressive. Thanks for your video. Wolfhound Pottery

  • @mirjamabat
    @mirjamabat Год назад

    What is the lumps you put under to stand on the shelves and how do you make it? Beautiful oven and pieces!!!

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  Год назад +1

      Hi Mirjam. Thank you for your comments. The lumps are wadding, to stop the pots being welded to the shelves by the salt/soda glaze. People have many different recipes for wadding - the important thing is that it should contain a lot of alumina, which doesn't react with the sodium. My wadding is made of two parts alumina, two parts of a fine grade molochite and one part of china clay, with a little wallpaper paste added to help it bind together. The dry powders are thoroughly mixed and then small amounts of water are mixed in until it all just binds together but is still a very stiff mix. I'm very happy with the way it performs.

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  Год назад +1

      Maybe I should add that I think many potters put the wads on the pots as they load the kiln, but I prefer to fix the wads to the pots beforehand with small blobs of PVA glue.

    • @mirjamabat
      @mirjamabat Год назад

      @@kevinakhurst7855 thank you very much for the answer

  • @ericschmuecker348
    @ericschmuecker348 3 года назад

    Nifty! Thanks for sharing. I do like your kiln design.

  • @virginiewalker1008
    @virginiewalker1008 4 года назад

    Wow Kevin, what a successful firing! Your pots are just beautiful! Félicitations!!!

  • @Workuj
    @Workuj 3 года назад

    Very interesting Kevin❤️ thank you a lot🙏

  • @原民雄-y6v
    @原民雄-y6v 8 месяцев назад

    いいねー

  • @rudolfkasanpawiro644
    @rudolfkasanpawiro644 Год назад

    Very beautiful artistic pottery.

  • @vikurti
    @vikurti 3 года назад

    Followed the video with much interest. Congradulations for the beautifull pots. Would have liked to see the smoking degree of the chimney. Would it be possible to share a plan of the kiln? Thanks a lot.

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Dayanath. It doesn't smoke very much. Once I go into reduction there is a puff of smoke each time I stoke, that quickly clears. I don't have any plans which are designed for others to view but I do have a couple of rough drawings which you might find helpful. If you email me (address on my website) I will reply and attach them.

  • @nadiahopkins149
    @nadiahopkins149 4 года назад

    Excellent video Kevin, thank you for sharing. Beautiful firing results so inspiring!

  • @NateNixdorf
    @NateNixdorf 3 года назад

    Thanks for sharing the video. Concise and informative, and I enjoyed watching it. Now that you've fired it a number of times, are there any design changes you wish you made, or adjustments you would recommend to others wanting to build a Phoenix? Thanks in advance.

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Nate. I haven't thought about that before so your question got me thinking. I don't think I would make any major design changes. I used castable for the firebox arch/chamber floor and also for lintels over the sliding dampers and in every case it cracked in use early on, so I would probably research my casting methods and also possible alternatives, but having said that the cracks haven't caused me any problems yet. Also, as a previous comment picked up, I don't really use my mousehole effectively and I might review the design of that. I would like to mention how pleased I have been with the use of high alumina lightweight bricks for the interior chamber walls. These have been very resistant to attack by salt and soda. The other challenges I have encountered, such as the temperature variations within the chamber and the uneven distribution of salt/soda, I have chosen to accept as features of the kiln design and work with them. I hope these comments are of some help.

  • @libreriabiblosdipierandrea7339
    @libreriabiblosdipierandrea7339 3 года назад

    very nice congratulations. I would like to make a smaller one. I don't understand at what height the outlets of the firebox are; in addition, the dimensions of the hob with respect to the arch of the hearth.

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  3 года назад

      Sorry for the delayed response - I missed your comment somehow. I'm not altogether sure what you want to know. There is a single outlet to the firebox which takes the form of a gap in the firebox roof/chamber floor at the far end of the kiln. The hob is formed of solid steel bars which are the full width of the firebox. However, I did lay two single rows of bricks on the firebox floor to make it easier to create the ember bed by reducing its width.

  • @handmadepottery2135
    @handmadepottery2135 4 года назад

    Very informative thank you. doesn't the soda eat away at the soft hti bricks?

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  4 года назад +1

      Thanks. The kiln walls are two bricks thick and the inner wall, which lines the chamber, is made of 28 grade bricks which have higher alumina and lower silica. More expensive but more resistant to salt. I’m very pleased with how they have performed. Unfortunately I couldn’t buy tapered arch bricks in 28 grade, so I will probably end up replacing the roof when it gets worse.

  • @ammaribnyasir6289
    @ammaribnyasir6289 2 года назад

    so informative, thanks

  • @AminulIslam-cp7ei
    @AminulIslam-cp7ei 4 года назад

    Excellent. Nice pieces of works. One of the pieces at 19:23 with light green is so pleasing that I would fight for it. What did u use for its coloring ?

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  4 года назад +2

      Thanks for your kind words. The green pot is coloured with a slip containing cobalt and titanium. The cobalt gives blue and the titanium a yellowish colour; with the right balance between them you get this nice green with a very slight variegation, presumably from the titanium. I got the idea from the Scottish potter Fergus Stewart.

  • @samueldowling1866
    @samueldowling1866 Год назад

    Really well edited kevin

  • @timothyfrost2982
    @timothyfrost2982 2 года назад

    I like your kiln is there a place I can go to get the dimensions, material list, and designs

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  2 года назад

      I’m afraid I don’t have details in a fit state to be shared. I measured up a friend’s kiln, made some design changes and then built it from my own sketches and notes. I think there are some Phoenix designs on the internet but I expect each one will be a bit different

  • @silasandrade2503
    @silasandrade2503 3 года назад

    Hello, would you have the design of this oven? I'm from Brazil and here I can't find books that teach how to build. I work with amphoras, and I would like an oven like this

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  3 года назад

      Hello Silas. Sorry but I don't have any design details that would be intelligible and are in a state to be shared. I read quite a few books on kilns before I started (e.g. Olsen, Kiln Book; Gregory, Kiln Building; Finch, Kiln Construction, Lou, Art of Firing; Rhodes, Kilns), but what I found most useful was to find a friendly potter whose kiln worked and develop the design from theirs.

    • @silasandrade2503
      @silasandrade2503 3 года назад

      @@kevinakhurst7855 Thank you very much

  • @gindaup
    @gindaup 3 года назад

    A proper mousehole under the firebox would eliminate coals clogging the entrance flue.

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  3 года назад

      Thanks Gary. I did build in a mousehole, running through to a perforated floor at the far end of the firebox, but when I started firing this kiln I felt it didn't make much difference and since then I have left it plugged. Your comment has inspired me to try using it again.

    • @gindaup
      @gindaup Год назад

      @@kevinakhurst7855 A proper mouse hole, perforated bricks clog. See "Pioneer Pottery" on basic construction. I modified mine bit I get no coal build up in my throat arch. I just happened on this again. Hope you are having decent results. I been on a long break but might build again in downtown Detroit.

  • @jimlinksvayer8851
    @jimlinksvayer8851 Год назад

    The simplicity but well designed pots are superb.

  • @nathanweber3395
    @nathanweber3395 3 года назад

    How many fire bricks total did you use in this kiln?

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  3 года назад

      Hi Nathan. Sorry, but I never counted them. I got a lot of bricks from an old kiln and I have a lot left over. Almost all of them are standard 9 inch x 4.5 inch x 3 inch bricks, although I used some larger heavies at the chamber floor level to help key in the cast floor. Sorry I can't be more help

  • @jevpots
    @jevpots 4 года назад

    Great video Kevin. Enjoyed watching. Can you say why you use soda and salt together, and why not inject directly into the kiln chamber?

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  4 года назад +5

      Thanks John. The use of salt and soda on wooden boards in the firebox was suggested to me by Jeremy Steward, who told me he had got good results that way. I did try spraying soda into the chamber once, but had a difficult time with the spray nozzles blocking and, ultimately, melting. I could have overcome that, but I was happy with the results from Jeremy's method so I decided to focus on optimising my slips and glazes for that approach rather then spend more time exploring the firing technique. I think having the sodium carried with the flame increases the variation in appearance around the pots from front to back, which I like. I know there are supposed to be differences between salt and soda - I believe that salt is supposed to fill the kiln more quickly while soda tends to follow the flame, and I have also read that they have slightly different colour responses, though I don't understand why that should be given that the active ingredient, sodium, is the same for both. From where I am now I don't want to spend time trying out variations on that combination.

    • @jevpots
      @jevpots 4 года назад +1

      Thanks for detailed response Kevin. All makes sense to me. All best John

  • @a.p.l.a.u.s.o.s
    @a.p.l.a.u.s.o.s 2 года назад

    🔥

  • @offgridarts7835
    @offgridarts7835 4 года назад

    Great! I'm planning to build one myself soon! Very inspiring and useful information!

    • @Alakwe
      @Alakwe 3 года назад +1

      Don't use steel firebox grating if you can help it, otherwise if you do porcelain, it will look like flys have been on it.. Austenitic stainless steel or brick cheqering

  • @timothyfrost2982
    @timothyfrost2982 2 года назад

    Great job on video..as a newbie to wood fired pottery it would be nice to know the different stages of firing, sequence, sop.

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Timothy. I am firing bisque-fired pots so I don’t have to be super slow at the start, but I still like to go a bit slow to start with in case there is any moisture in the pots and I start off at 150 degrees (Centigrade) an hour for three hours. Then I increase the ramp to 225 degrees an hour until I get to 950 degrees. At that temperature I go into reduction by closing dampers and reduce the ramp rate to 100 degrees an hour. Once I get to cone 9 down near the top of the kiln (around 1250 on my pyrometer) I hold temperature for about two and a half hours while I add salt and soda at ten minute intervals. I hope that helps.

    • @Selamg1
      @Selamg1 Год назад

      Excellent kiln firing schedule!
      I love wood firing.
      Thank you !

  • @arianematos1995
    @arianematos1995 2 года назад

    Beautiful work!

  • @olganikolayeva2568
    @olganikolayeva2568 3 года назад

    these white things that you use to place under the pots in the kiln, what are they made of?

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  3 года назад +1

      Hi Olga. It is called wadding. Without these, in a salt or soda firing, or a wood firing with a lot of natural ash glaze, there is a risk that the pots will be attached to the kiln shelves by glaze during the firing. With wadding it is important that it doesn't vitrify during the firing, or react with the salt/soda itself. It needs to be firm enough to support the pot and friable enough to break off easily after the firing. I make mine to a recipe I got from Micki Schloessingk; 2 parts of a very finely ground alumina, 2 parts of a finely ground molochite and 1 part china clay. These are mixed with some dry wallpaper paste powder (or courgel) as a binder and then water is stirred in to get a very stiff consistency. Some potters apply these as they pack the kiln but I prefer to wad my pots before packing, fixing the wads to the pots with small blobs of PVA glue.

    • @olganikolayeva2568
      @olganikolayeva2568 3 года назад

      @@kevinakhurst7855 Thanks a lot for the answer, Kevin! I want to try salt firing but I am not sure about the complete technology. Would you mind answering a couple of more questins please? Does the salt affect the inside of the kiln and the shelves? can you use your kiln chamber for both salt firing and other kinds of firing? do you salt fire at cone 5 (or am i mistaken)? and placing salt should happen at the highest temperature point? for how long then should I hold this temperature? thanks in advance for reply!

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  3 года назад +1

      @@olganikolayeva2568 Hello Olga. I will answer your questions, but I recommend you get a book on salt firing (e.g. Phil Rogers, 'Salt Glazing' and Jack Troy, 'Salt-Glazed Ceramics'), which will go into more detail. The salt does gradually attack the inside of the kiln and this generally rules out using normal lightweight insulation bricks. Many potters use heavy bricks but I used high-alumina lightweight bricks for the lining of my kiln chamber and they are resisting the salt well. I use normal cordierite kiln shelves most of the time and I coat the upper surfaces with kiln wash to reduce the attack by the salt. They are still going well after 15 firings. I understand that the salt which remains on the walls can affect subsequent non-salt firings, but maybe in a small and acceptable way - I haven't tried it myself. I usually start salting at about cone 7 or 8 which is close to my maximum temperature. I then gradually add the salt over around two hours while holding at that temperature, by which time cone 11 is down at the top of the kiln and cone 9 at the bottom. You need to give the salt time to act on the surfaces, but there are no strict rules. I hope this helps. Good luck with your salt firing.

    • @olganikolayeva2568
      @olganikolayeva2568 3 года назад

      @@kevinakhurst7855 thanks a lot! I will read these books if I find them!

  • @credenza1
    @credenza1 3 года назад

    Very well done. Thank you. I was impressed at the ease with which it reached cone 11.

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  3 года назад

      Thanks. The kiln has a relatively large firebox and chimney, which makes it easier to get to temperature.

    • @credenza1
      @credenza1 Год назад

      @@kevinakhurst7855 I omitted to say how delightful and varied your pieces are, and how beautifully thrown and formed. The large bowl is a stunner, but I think my favourites are the variations on a theme with the simple decoration and the harmonious colours.

    • @kevinakhurst7855
      @kevinakhurst7855  Год назад

      Thank you for your kind words. If you are interested in seeing what came out of the kiln recently you can find it here - www.kevinakhurst.com/2023-work.html

  • @trannyglitter12
    @trannyglitter12 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the tips. Nice work and kiln!!

  • @gabym9625
    @gabym9625 3 года назад

    Thank you very much Kevin for this clear and inspiring demonstration. Much appreciated. :)
    Gabriela