@@Pokedad379 Yeah, or its original Japanese name that's just the English word "mongoose" rendered in katakana. Much like how some other Gen 1 Pokemon have English names in the original Japanese that needed to be changed when localized ("Spear" to "Beedrill", "Showers" to "Vaporeon", "Booster" to "Flareon", and so forth). Oddly the anime localization changed it from saying its name "MONGOOSE" like a Pokemon would to just speaking a normal sentence.
Kangaskhan should have gotten a baby evolution, so that They’re not born with babies. They could even have it where a Kangaskhan doesn’t breed unless you have high friendship, so it trusts you enough to give you an egg.
Part of what makes Lavender Town so surreal IMO is the fact that it's a very rare instance of the games throwing you into a "battle" with something that is treated as being, technically, not a Pokemon. The manner in which it breaks established "rules" if you will, both tonally and mechanically, I think is probably part of why it left such an impression.
@@gustavolopes5094 Pokemon Mystery dungeon games have a few instances of non pokemon/human enemies I suppose depending on the titles, ranges from clones of a pokemon to full blown spoiler territory stuff and abstract concepts
Just going to point out that Deertrack Path / Heights doesn’t actually imply anything about the existence of “real life deer”, considering that WyrDEER lives there. The place is named after the *pokemon,* not an IRL animal.
On the topic of Pokémon fusion you did miss one: Venustoise, an illusion which was created by a Gastly in the anime episode "The Ghost of Maiden's Peak" which combines elements of Venusaur and Blastoise
I have an addition to make in the diamond and pearl movie where ash and co went back in time and arceus first appeared the people refered to pokemon as "magical creatures". we use adjectives to differentiate something from other things where that adjective doesn't apply (games and videogames) so "magical creatures" implies the existence of "non-magical creatures"
for another example of real life animals in main line pokemon games, as a sea life nerd, when the indigo disc came out and i saw a coral reef in the terrarium i just sat there confused for a while wondering about it, considering coral and sponges are animals. they also appear very prominently in new pokemon snap and probably other places
You missed a few but that's to be expected with how many weird old Pokémon episodes there are, not to mention all the other things. The "Island of the Giant Pokémon" episode has giant robotic Pokémon, which you could argue don't count, but the giant Dragonite from the bill's lighthouse episode and the time a giant Tentacruel attacked a city definitely should. There's also the time Bill fused himself with a Pokémon in the games and you had to help him unfuse, which brings up a LOT of questions. The legendary beasts of Johto were said to have been different Pokémon before they were revived by Ho-oh, I think in the anime we see a quick shot of their silhouette and it doesn't look like any Pokémon we currently know of. There was also the time Professor Ivy found the equivalent to the Galapagos Islands with a ton of Pokémon with different patters than normal. I believe the Sprout Tower was said to have been made from a 100 foot tall Bellsprout, which is another giant Pokémon if true, but that's an in-universe myth so may not count. I'm sure there's more but that's all I can think of for now.
The pokemon version of the Galapagos is the region from New Snap, btw. So far it's the only region in the southern hemisphere. The anime we see the beasts in their original forms is Evolutions, right? Or Generations? One of them.
Some other Non-Pokemon worth mentioning are real world animals in dex entries and moves like Indian elephants and horses and unshown baby versions of single stage Pokemon like Bombirdier (Also similar to Kangaskhan’s baby in the honorable mentions, inside of Rabsca’s psychic ball is a larva)
@@stalloneandrew9961 I noticed that they are slowly replace real world animals to mons that are inspired from them. And despite they already had an elephant-type in the game. It wasn't based on the right one. Which probably why they waited until they made one.
@@stalloneandrew9961 I like to head canon Arceus is slowly but surely erasing the orgins of humanity and continuity mistakes like other animals so only pokemon and them are left on this version of earth so he can gaslight humans into never figuring It out ever
I've had a longtime fan theory that most Pokémon are animals that have evolved. Pikachu, for example evolved from mice . Real animals were more common in Gen 1 and 2 before they became endangered. In the more recent gens the most common animals are invertebrates, the most abundant animals on earth
Where are the animals on the legends games, then? Surely you'd expect to see more animals in the past than the amount of real animals you see in gen 1/2.
Because they have evolved already by that point just more recently, which is why animals in Ledgends Arceus are mentioned, such as "Horseshoe Plains" and "Deertrack Heights." Horses mutated into Ponyta, but they still use the word "horseshoe".
@dylanzlol7293 Actually there's some dialog that backs this up. They talk about encountering pokemon once they get to the region with fear as if they'd never encountered stuff like that before
True, although Rotom has been seen leaving the dex/phone unlike the appliance forms - it's still an alternate form of a Pokemon you can't use, so good point!
Considering Nintendo's recently developed obsession for replacing electronics with Rotoms, we could probably start counting devices like phones, televisions, PCs, and Pokedexes as "non-Pokémon."
What if real animals in pokemon are like mythical animals in real life. Old stories talk about lions and elephants, like how our myths talk about dragons and unicorns. Maybe people have even written stories about them, or made tv shows.
There is actually something that he didn't mention that Ash catches in the show and never uses that's uncatchable in the games. Manky throws a doughnut at Ash and he actually catches it in a pokeball.
Yeah in the early gens, especially gen 1, it seemed like there were still animals but now that is understandably retconned out. They weren’t sure back then but now changed it that animals are practically nonexistent. most of it was due to the anime being given too much creative liberty, but the games still had some instances. For example the Indian elephant from raichu’s Pokédex entry. they’ve now changed it to a copperajah in legends arceus
@@ARandomMinecraftVillager In which context lol Cause I don't like to waste my time and people should proofread what they type. Unless English isn't their first language. But I like to still believe it serves to help them do better so they don't make the same mistake again. I know I would prefer to be corrected if I tried speaking Spanish or Russian. How else would I learn? It's hard to be corrected but it still serves a purpose.
I'm not sure if anyone else thought of this, but I think that the statues located in the gyms from the Lets Go games and others count. The small dragon-like creature on them doesn't resemble any other Pokémon we know yet.
I always thought the generation 2 version of the nightmare imp creature looked like an unfinished version of Banette's design, which would explain why its design was completely changed once Banette was introduced. Also given the vast number of plant Pokémon that exist, we could argue that all grass, trees, herbs, etc. are non-Pokémon.
I think that examples like Deertrack Heights are just because that stantler are deer in the Pokemon world. IM basically trying to say that Pokemon that are based on real animals are recognized as those animals but not the ones we think of. A conversation in the Pokemon world could probably go like the following, Person 1: Isn't my cat so cute? Person 2: Yes they are. what breed are they. Person 1: Their a purebred Meowth.
I think similar to that idea, it could be that things like cat, deer, mouse, etc. are all something like the genus of that Pokemon. So you have for example have the genus "cat," and it encompasses species like Meowth, Purrloin, Sprigatito, etc. It would explain how we can have titles like "Scratch Cat" and "Loyal Dog" Pokemon despite not having cats and dogs as we know them, the term simply refers to something slightly different in the Pokemon world.
You forgot the mention of real world animals in the Pokedex entries. Such as Raichu and Gastly mentioning Indian Elephants. Raichu FireRed: "Its electric charges can reach even 100,000 volts. Careless contact can cause even an Indian elephant to faint." Raichu Sun: "It unleashes electric shocks that can reach 100,000 volts. When agitated, it can knock out even an Indian elephant." Gastly FireRed: "A being that exists as a thin gas. It can topple an Indian elephant by enveloping the prey in two seconds."
I think the Pokémon company is trapped in a weird dilemma where they don't want kids to think people are eating the Pokémon, but kind of know that, if Pokémon really existed, they would have outcompeted & driven all other animal species to extinction a long time ago. And yet, if that were true, where did humans come from?
The issue would be solved if people were just vegetarian in the pokemon world. Ordinary non-pokemon plants clearly exist, as well as edible pokemon that don't die from it, like the bananas from Tropius, or Miltank milk. The pokemon world is futuristic in other ways, like pokemon centers, why not like this.
@@veggiedragon1000to add to that: grass type pokemon or other pokemon that are supposed to be plants clearly fill an animal niche, so they wouldn't realistically outcompete plants, which makes your reasoning even more likely
On a meta level, the reason for real animals in the early days of the series just comes down to the series starting out as taking place on Earth. The earliest Pokémon media mentions real world animals and locations, and has Pokémon being discovered in real world France- not Kalos, France. The Kanto region is the literal Kanto region of Japan. Pokémon were newly discovered creatures somewhere between evolved animals and yokai in Gen 1, hence why Gen 2 keeps saying how the new 100 are newly discovered as well, and why Elm makes such a big deal out of discovering eggs. The drift started in Gen 2 with them naming the region Johto instead of Kansai, and was pretty much completed in gens 3 and 4 with Pokémon having ancient legends about them. If things had stayed the way they were in Gen 1, Legends Arceus would have been a very different game.
I don't know how much different PLA would be. The game does a good job treating Pokémon as unknown creatures that can be more or less dangerous for humans, instead of keep selling the idea that both Pokémon and humans were buddies since forever. You could get rid of the legendaries and make the MC just another villager but other than that I don't see how else the game could change
Woah woah buddy, you're totally wrong about the substitute doll. It is a real Pokemon. Its just a scrapped pokemon from the first game that never made it--just one of many with such a fate.
The substitute doll is an inanimate decoy, I think it should not be in the list. But you can replace it with the giant Dragonite from anime episode "Mystery at the lighthouse" or the giant Tentacruel from the anime opening, which fully meet your definition.
My take is that there are some regular animals but they don't interact with humans as much, and are fewer and far between. They're like mutations of Pokemon but the mutation makes them mundane rather than extraordinary.
reminds me of a variaition of the 'ash in a coma' theory where the series started off with actual real animals and the real animals gradually faded out of existence as more pokemon vame out to fill the ecosystwms
Wouldn't humans technically count as "Non-Pokémon"? Because humans are prominently featured in most official Pokémon media, yet humans within the world of Pokémon are not Pokémon themselves.
a few more: -on the topic of fossils, tyrantrum's pokedex entry states that "true restoration was impossible", meaning that the tyrantrum (and likely tyrunt as well) we know wasnt the TRUE tyrantrum that lived eons ago, which, if we somehow get another vision of the past or more past paradox pokemon, we may be able to see the true tyrantrum one day. -you forgot the non-pokemon final bosses in the mystery dungeon series. before anyone asks, primal dialga is still a dialga, so thats not what i mean. i mean the bittercold in gates to infinity, as well as dark matter in super md (and its henchman, the void shadows). you battle these entities like any other pokemon, they each lack a type but use signature moves, and in the case of dark matter & void shadows, have signature abilities. -this one is more speculation, and you half brought it up already, but its implied that arctovish's two halves belonged to the same prehistoric pokemon, just that the head is upside down. if it were to be fixed, and the flippers on the head half placed correctly, we might be able to see the true form of arctovish as well as with tyrantrum should the speculation be correct. (by this logic, the dragon body of dracozolt and dracovish, and the lizard head of dracozolt and arctozolt would also have true forms, just that we'd need their other halves. i can see the ____zolt pokemon being a small lizard, sorta like salandit, with the draco____ pokemon maybe being a single stage dragon mon sorta like cyclizar or druddigon.)
also blue corphish. cannot believe i forgot blue corphish. according to the pokedex, in the region corphish truly originates from, it was blue, but became red after travelling to hoenn.
Great video. Your wonderfully strong accent had me mistakenly think the video was in a language other than English until my brain tuned in to the words, lol.
While talking about fusions, I was hoping there would be some words of the original dragon, that being the fused form of Zekrom and Reshiram. This was its original design before the brothers who owned it argued and pulled it apart, just leaving reshiram, the cold, empty fragments of what was left. This is why kyogre actually fused with the other two, it was attempting to put the pieces back together.
I know the story about the Original Dragon, though I felt like it has a possibility of actually making an appearance in the nearby future, so in case of dating the video quicker - I left it out this time.
Yooo, I completely forgot about the Pokemopolis episode! For some reason, that one scared the shit out of me as a kid! My favorite non-pokemon pokemon are definitely the mini noses. They are one of the less interesting examples in the video in terms of weirdness and origin, but they just crack me up. I really wish Pokemon animations would get more elaborate again so we could see the mini noses do more than just shooting beams occasionally. EDIT: Oh, I just remembered. As a kid, I had a weird fascination with the faux Remoraid on Mantine's wings. I know it's meant to just be a regular Remoraid from modern depictions, but back then (very likely due to the small sprite size) it looked more like a tadpole than anything else. One of the mons that actually ended up teaching me about real animals, since I did not understand the symbiosis at all as a kid.
Pretty sure the Snot nose manga creature is supposed to be Diglett... yeah I know it sounds wrong, but many of the early creatures of that manga seem to have been created by just having the sprites or something. There's also a 3 eye Meowth without its coin.
I still don’t actually believe there are actual animals in Pokémon. I just wanna connected to say yes people do eat Pokémon, and some of the like things appearing in the anime was just laziness of the writers, and the bird is probably just a Pidgeotto or whatever and hey, we do have not to say that ancient fish probably isn’t an undiscovered. Pokémon we haven’t seen yet.
This is a cool list of facts, I heard about a lot that I hadn’t heard of from random trivia, like the MechaMew2 card or the mentions of random real-life animals in the games. Unfortunately I couldn’t enjoy the video without playing it sped up at 1.5x - your wording at times is needlessly redundant/roundabout the point, and it didn’t help that I’m used to videos where people speak a lot faster. You have a lot of people who like your channel as-is obviously, and I’m not asking for a change specifically for me :P
I really thought Mother Beast would be mentioned in some way, be it in the Fusion category or Honoraable Mentions since it's my most favorite bosses in all of Pokemon. Oh well, still a great video man!
Honestly was expecting the pink/purple Kecleon from the "Pokemon Mystery Dungeons" series, and maybe Primal Dialga from "PMD: Explorers of time". Another thing is within thr Kanto museum with Kabutops sicking a big fish, I feel like they could redesign it to a new fossilized fish, or make it something like a Sharpedo if the scenes in Kanto gets revisited
09:13, 11:10 - In Gen 3, Nightmare and Lovely Kiss use the exact same creature: a pink imp. We can clearly see it's the same creature, just with a different shade of pink each time.
You didn't mention Zygarde! Zygarde cells canonically kind of as the question of "what *is* a pokemon", by them explicitly not being considered Pokemon, not even the cores, until it's at least it's 10% of Zygarde's full form. Which is really weird. I wish they had pushed more on having non-pokemon. The Ultra Beasts feel like they almost were going to be, but backed off from it. It's a shame, it'd be cool if they really weren't to some extent, that while "compatible" in some ways they really weren't in others in gameplay, to make them more alien. And of course, Type: Null is... created, out of unidentified creatures. Sun and Moon feel like they had an idea of questioning "what is a pokemon" but it never actually pushed with it. And honestly, the answer seems to be less of a hard classification and more something blurred. For Zygarde in particular "not being able to use moves" is mentioned as one of the reasons why is it not a Pokemon.
I'm assuming the spin-off exclusives are omitted due to being spin-offs Like the illusory Groudon, Alternate Primal Dialga and Ditto chest form in Mystery Dungeon. However, one mainline option that came to mind as a questionable contender in the vein of Crystal Onix was Pudgy Pidgey, An anime exclusive version of Pidgey that could've been a regional variant, Since the anime says they might've lost their flying type due to isolation.
I feel like it's safe fo say that normal animals are just there but since Pokemon have fantastical powers it would make sense that they would be rathered then their powerless counterpart
Not sure if it counts cos you can use it for a short time with a specific warlord, but the Black Rayquaza in Pokemon Conquest. I thought it was so cool when I first saw it. Sidenote: I love that catching Pokemon in Pokemon Conquest is based on "linking" with them or forming a bond instead of beating them up and throwing a ball at them. It's just a little timing mini game but I like to imagine doing different activities with the Pokemon to bond with it. Like to bond with an Aron, just feed it some scrap metal and pet him or bonding with a Machop with an arm wrestle or something. I just prefer the bonding with Pokemon route
In anime exclusive there’s a regular polar cub head in an ice cream stand in Alola, and a green jiggly puff with Meowth eyes and ears and pink cherubi leaves as hair and a pink clown nose, as a statue toy in Kalos.
Regular Mongoose is my favorite Pokemon. Not Zangoose or Youngoos or Gumshoos, just the regular Mongoose that is a known predator of Ekans and Arbok.
Ahh you mean Esoognom
@@Pokedad379 Yeah, or its original Japanese name that's just the English word "mongoose" rendered in katakana. Much like how some other Gen 1 Pokemon have English names in the original Japanese that needed to be changed when localized ("Spear" to "Beedrill", "Showers" to "Vaporeon", "Booster" to "Flareon", and so forth).
Oddly the anime localization changed it from saying its name "MONGOOSE" like a Pokemon would to just speaking a normal sentence.
@@RoninCatholic but Ekans is just a snake, so Esoognom should be just a mongoose lol
A Mongoose
@@Pokedad379 no, Ekans is a snake pokemon, not a snake
Kangaskhan should have gotten a baby evolution, so that They’re not born with babies. They could even have it where a Kangaskhan doesn’t breed unless you have high friendship, so it trusts you enough to give you an egg.
@lgfrrse0402 a whole new lot of glitches and bugs lmaoooo
@@Gerenic I like to think Orks designed the gen 1 games
Kangasskhan is the one Pokémon im okay with having a baby evolution 😂
Kangaschan
Yeah.
Part of what makes Lavender Town so surreal IMO is the fact that it's a very rare instance of the games throwing you into a "battle" with something that is treated as being, technically, not a Pokemon. The manner in which it breaks established "rules" if you will, both tonally and mechanically, I think is probably part of why it left such an impression.
I couldn’t put it better that “rules” part is something I never really thought about
I'm not even able to recall another instance where that happened, besides Pokestar Studios.
@@gustavolopes5094 Pokemon Mystery dungeon games have a few instances of non pokemon/human enemies I suppose depending on the titles, ranges from clones of a pokemon to full blown spoiler territory stuff and abstract concepts
@@flyingstonemon3564 Oh yeah, there's that! I guess I was thinking of mainline games.
Mystery dungeon moment
Just going to point out that Deertrack Path / Heights doesn’t actually imply anything about the existence of “real life deer”, considering that WyrDEER lives there. The place is named after the *pokemon,* not an IRL animal.
So why not call it Wyrdeer Path?
@@BJGvideoslinguistic drift?
Not to mention many of the Pokedex entries are something like "the rat Pokemon"
@@BJGvideos deerling and stantler exist
On the topic of Pokémon fusion you did miss one: Venustoise, an illusion which was created by a Gastly in the anime episode "The Ghost of Maiden's Peak" which combines elements of Venusaur and Blastoise
That could be one of those that I listed in the anime exclusive group, but yeah you're right!
I was WONDERING if I'd just missed it! XD
@@RetroNC another anime only form is primal Pikachu
So glad you mentioned this
yeah that one was too big to miss
I have an addition to make
in the diamond and pearl movie where ash and co went back in time and arceus first appeared the people refered to pokemon as "magical creatures". we use adjectives to differentiate something from other things where that adjective doesn't apply (games and videogames) so "magical creatures" implies the existence of "non-magical creatures"
Humans?
@@BJGvideos like normal animals
4:20 New headcanon; this is the first appearance of basculegion.
The pokemon statues in gyms, some kind of horned winged creature
I'm pretty sure its Rhydon's first design ig. not sure tho
@@PuppyGamePlayzAEither that or Charizard
Season1 Pokedex: "Pikachu, the electric mouse pokemon......"
Ash: "Wait wait back up, what the heck is a mouse?!"
As a Spaniard that I am, when you said Paela instead of Paella my heart broke
Even funnier is that he called a mussel a “moozel” lmao, but hey, English and Spanish are foreign languages for him so we can’t be too harsh
@lgfrrse0402 Directly west from Russia, Along with Estonia and Lithuania
I'm just an American that speaks Spanish and I felt that...
RIP Bittercold, Dark matter, the Void shadows and Dark Dialga.
i forgot about the bittercold we actually sort of battle it
Those are Kirby
@@lorekeeper685 No they're not. Kirby also has an enemy called Dark Matter but there's one in Pokemon too
@@BJGvideos I know but they are Kirby villains
@@lorekeeper685 Oh you're speaking metaphorically
for another example of real life animals in main line pokemon games, as a sea life nerd, when the indigo disc came out and i saw a coral reef in the terrarium i just sat there confused for a while wondering about it, considering coral and sponges are animals. they also appear very prominently in new pokemon snap and probably other places
You missed a few but that's to be expected with how many weird old Pokémon episodes there are, not to mention all the other things. The "Island of the Giant Pokémon" episode has giant robotic Pokémon, which you could argue don't count, but the giant Dragonite from the bill's lighthouse episode and the time a giant Tentacruel attacked a city definitely should. There's also the time Bill fused himself with a Pokémon in the games and you had to help him unfuse, which brings up a LOT of questions. The legendary beasts of Johto were said to have been different Pokémon before they were revived by Ho-oh, I think in the anime we see a quick shot of their silhouette and it doesn't look like any Pokémon we currently know of. There was also the time Professor Ivy found the equivalent to the Galapagos Islands with a ton of Pokémon with different patters than normal. I believe the Sprout Tower was said to have been made from a 100 foot tall Bellsprout, which is another giant Pokémon if true, but that's an in-universe myth so may not count. I'm sure there's more but that's all I can think of for now.
The pokemon version of the Galapagos is the region from New Snap, btw. So far it's the only region in the southern hemisphere.
The anime we see the beasts in their original forms is Evolutions, right? Or Generations? One of them.
Some other Non-Pokemon worth mentioning are real world animals in dex entries and moves like Indian elephants and horses and unshown baby versions of single stage Pokemon like Bombirdier
(Also similar to Kangaskhan’s baby in the honorable mentions, inside of Rabsca’s psychic ball is a larva)
Although the indian elephant was retconned into Copperajah...
@@stalloneandrew9961 I noticed that they are slowly replace real world animals to mons that are inspired from them. And despite they already had an elephant-type in the game. It wasn't based on the right one. Which probably why they waited until they made one.
@@stalloneandrew9961 I like to head canon Arceus is slowly but surely erasing the orgins of humanity and continuity mistakes like other animals so only pokemon and them are left on this version of earth so he can gaslight humans into never figuring It out ever
I've had a longtime fan theory that most Pokémon are animals that have evolved. Pikachu, for example evolved from mice . Real animals were more common in Gen 1 and 2 before they became endangered. In the more recent gens the most common animals are invertebrates, the most abundant animals on earth
Where are the animals on the legends games, then? Surely you'd expect to see more animals in the past than the amount of real animals you see in gen 1/2.
Because they have evolved already by that point just more recently, which is why animals in Ledgends Arceus are mentioned, such as "Horseshoe Plains" and "Deertrack Heights." Horses mutated into Ponyta, but they still use the word "horseshoe".
@@strange_0ne535 well, if you can casually see real animals in gen 1, why dont you see any real animals remaining?
@dylanzlol7293 Actually there's some dialog that backs this up. They talk about encountering pokemon once they get to the region with fear as if they'd never encountered stuff like that before
Takeshi Shudo in his anime development notes actually writes something like this as canon. That animals went mostly extinct very long ago.
could've said something about the rotom phone or the rotom dex, but I'm not sure if it would just count as unusable form of the usable rotom
True, although Rotom has been seen leaving the dex/phone unlike the appliance forms - it's still an alternate form of a Pokemon you can't use, so good point!
tbh after gen 8 ı just assumed the jiggypuff alakazam and gengar are ancient pokemon sealed away filled with dynamax energy
Not big enough, they're titan pokemon.
Considering Nintendo's recently developed obsession for replacing electronics with Rotoms, we could probably start counting devices like phones, televisions, PCs, and Pokedexes as "non-Pokémon."
There is an "angel" entity that appears in the animation of another "kiss" move in Gen 4.
What if real animals in pokemon are like mythical animals in real life. Old stories talk about lions and elephants, like how our myths talk about dragons and unicorns. Maybe people have even written stories about them, or made tv shows.
Holy shit what if they're cryptids. What if regular mongoose is on the same level as chupacabra
There is actually something that he didn't mention that Ash catches in the show and never uses that's uncatchable in the games. Manky throws a doughnut at Ash and he actually catches it in a pokeball.
Yeah in the early gens, especially gen 1, it seemed like there were still animals but now that is understandably retconned out. They weren’t sure back then but now changed it that animals are practically nonexistent. most of it was due to the anime being given too much creative liberty, but the games still had some instances. For example the Indian elephant from raichu’s Pokédex entry. they’ve now changed it to a copperajah in legends arceus
Corals and other stationary animals are the only animals that still surviving strong in the later gens (they might be plants and rocks at that point)
Poke-Non
I vote for this to be the name of these for now on
Play the video at 1.25 speed or even 1.50 speed. Makes his voice sound more normal speed
I feel like he's also over explaining too. Maybe he wanted a long video
@alcreamie_fan Did you mean "due"
Or, *_OR_*
You could _not_ be an asshole (:
@@ARandomMinecraftVillager In which context lol
Cause I don't like to waste my time and people should proofread what they type.
Unless English isn't their first language.
But I like to still believe it serves to help them do better so they don't make the same mistake again.
I know I would prefer to be corrected if I tried speaking Spanish or Russian. How else would I learn?
It's hard to be corrected but it still serves a purpose.
@@hundragant This isn't correcting. This is "you don't sound normal, you're boring"
Of all things the infamous mongoose is not an animal, it's Gastly using Confuse Ray.
It's a subtle design difference that's easy to miss, but Flamigo's body is actually shaped like a boxing glove! That's why it's a fighting type :)
I'm not sure if anyone else thought of this, but I think that the statues located in the gyms from the Lets Go games and others count. The small dragon-like creature on them doesn't resemble any other Pokémon we know yet.
I was expecting to see Bitter Cold, Dark Matter, Primal Dialga, and Dark Rust.
Celesteela has data for an unused form in several games suggesting that the baby form was once planned to be in the games but was abandoned
waiting for the day we get microbial Pokemon and Pokemon that are as close to humans as Neanderthals were
I always thought the generation 2 version of the nightmare imp creature looked like an unfinished version of Banette's design, which would explain why its design was completely changed once Banette was introduced. Also given the vast number of plant Pokémon that exist, we could argue that all grass, trees, herbs, etc. are non-Pokémon.
I think that examples like Deertrack Heights are just because that stantler are deer in the Pokemon world. IM basically trying to say that Pokemon that are based on real animals are recognized as those animals but not the ones we think of. A conversation in the Pokemon world could probably go like the following, Person 1: Isn't my cat so cute? Person 2: Yes they are. what breed are they. Person 1: Their a purebred Meowth.
I think similar to that idea, it could be that things like cat, deer, mouse, etc. are all something like the genus of that Pokemon. So you have for example have the genus "cat," and it encompasses species like Meowth, Purrloin, Sprigatito, etc. It would explain how we can have titles like "Scratch Cat" and "Loyal Dog" Pokemon despite not having cats and dogs as we know them, the term simply refers to something slightly different in the Pokemon world.
You forgot the mention of real world animals in the Pokedex entries. Such as Raichu and Gastly mentioning Indian Elephants.
Raichu FireRed: "Its electric charges can reach even 100,000 volts. Careless contact can cause even an Indian elephant to faint."
Raichu Sun: "It unleashes electric shocks that can reach 100,000 volts. When agitated, it can knock out even an Indian elephant."
Gastly FireRed: "A being that exists as a thin gas. It can topple an Indian elephant by enveloping the prey in two seconds."
There's also a Pokédex entry stating that Lickitung can extend its tongue like a chameleon.
In recent gens the pokedex got changed to copperajah
I love the substitute doll,it looks like a tiny dinosaur.🦖
I think the Pokémon company is trapped in a weird dilemma where they don't want kids to think people are eating the Pokémon, but kind of know that, if Pokémon really existed, they would have outcompeted & driven all other animal species to extinction a long time ago. And yet, if that were true, where did humans come from?
The issue would be solved if people were just vegetarian in the pokemon world. Ordinary non-pokemon plants clearly exist, as well as edible pokemon that don't die from it, like the bananas from Tropius, or Miltank milk. The pokemon world is futuristic in other ways, like pokemon centers, why not like this.
@@veggiedragon1000to add to that: grass type pokemon or other pokemon that are supposed to be plants clearly fill an animal niche, so they wouldn't realistically outcompete plants, which makes your reasoning even more likely
I remember watching the episode with that Mongoose as a kid and my mind was blown lol I thought it was gonna be a new Pokemon in gen 2 but nah
I like to think Pocket Monsters are just monsters. Regular Animals still exist.
In the "move related" section there should also be a mention to Sweet Kiss, it's very similar to Lovely Kiss but summons an angel instead
On a meta level, the reason for real animals in the early days of the series just comes down to the series starting out as taking place on Earth. The earliest Pokémon media mentions real world animals and locations, and has Pokémon being discovered in real world France- not Kalos, France. The Kanto region is the literal Kanto region of Japan. Pokémon were newly discovered creatures somewhere between evolved animals and yokai in Gen 1, hence why Gen 2 keeps saying how the new 100 are newly discovered as well, and why Elm makes such a big deal out of discovering eggs.
The drift started in Gen 2 with them naming the region Johto instead of Kansai, and was pretty much completed in gens 3 and 4 with Pokémon having ancient legends about them.
If things had stayed the way they were in Gen 1, Legends Arceus would have been a very different game.
I don't know how much different PLA would be. The game does a good job treating Pokémon as unknown creatures that can be more or less dangerous for humans, instead of keep selling the idea that both Pokémon and humans were buddies since forever. You could get rid of the legendaries and make the MC just another villager but other than that I don't see how else the game could change
The hours I spent on Pokémon Blue trying to catch a Shellder that looked like it would bite a Slowpoke's tail...
that bird that the bird keeper has on his arm looks like it could just be a smaller-than-average
Pidgeotto or Pidgeot, it's hard to tell
The Pokemon at 25:09 is a Scrubbing Bubble! It doesn't show up because Pokemon Company would be sued by Scrubbing Bubbles!
Woah woah buddy, you're totally wrong about the substitute doll. It is a real Pokemon. Its just a scrapped pokemon from the first game that never made it--just one of many with such a fate.
Soo... Humans fit in the category of "non-pokémon" too, right?
I’ve always thought it was weird how shelder becomes unrecognizable when it bites slowpoke
The substitute doll is an inanimate decoy, I think it should not be in the list. But you can replace it with the giant Dragonite from anime episode "Mystery at the lighthouse" or the giant Tentacruel from the anime opening, which fully meet your definition.
This is the first time in my life I've heard the Latvian accent and it's breaking my brain a little bit lol
Happy to introduce lol
This video was really interesting, thank you for putting it together!
Shout out to Dark Matter
My take is that there are some regular animals but they don't interact with humans as much, and are fewer and far between. They're like mutations of Pokemon but the mutation makes them mundane rather than extraordinary.
The big fish with kabutops should be a good fossil Pokémon 😅
Looks like a basculegion
I think more it's the shark mon from Gen 9.
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You mean Veluza?
11:35 you forgot that sweet kiss also had an Angel involved
reminds me of a variaition of the 'ash in a coma' theory where the series started off with actual real animals and the real animals gradually faded out of existence as more pokemon vame out to fill the ecosystwms
you forgot iono's magnemites and the moths on ryme
Wouldn't humans technically count as "Non-Pokémon"? Because humans are prominently featured in most official Pokémon media, yet humans within the world of Pokémon are not Pokémon themselves.
Coco kinda blurs that line but it would be a fair assessment that humans with no magic do not count as pokemon
Actually pokemon heavily implies humans ARE pokemon
The mysterious forms of Jigglypuff, Alakazam, and Gengar seems could inspire the new gimmick in Gen 10
a few more:
-on the topic of fossils, tyrantrum's pokedex entry states that "true restoration was impossible", meaning that the tyrantrum (and likely tyrunt as well) we know wasnt the TRUE tyrantrum that lived eons ago, which, if we somehow get another vision of the past or more past paradox pokemon, we may be able to see the true tyrantrum one day.
-you forgot the non-pokemon final bosses in the mystery dungeon series. before anyone asks, primal dialga is still a dialga, so thats not what i mean. i mean the bittercold in gates to infinity, as well as dark matter in super md (and its henchman, the void shadows). you battle these entities like any other pokemon, they each lack a type but use signature moves, and in the case of dark matter & void shadows, have signature abilities.
-this one is more speculation, and you half brought it up already, but its implied that arctovish's two halves belonged to the same prehistoric pokemon, just that the head is upside down. if it were to be fixed, and the flippers on the head half placed correctly, we might be able to see the true form of arctovish as well as with tyrantrum should the speculation be correct.
(by this logic, the dragon body of dracozolt and dracovish, and the lizard head of dracozolt and arctozolt would also have true forms, just that we'd need their other halves. i can see the ____zolt pokemon being a small lizard, sorta like salandit, with the draco____ pokemon maybe being a single stage dragon mon sorta like cyclizar or druddigon.)
also blue corphish. cannot believe i forgot blue corphish. according to the pokedex, in the region corphish truly originates from, it was blue, but became red after travelling to hoenn.
"Small yellow birds that encourage your pokemon to punch themselves." xD
Great video. Your wonderfully strong accent had me mistakenly think the video was in a language other than English until my brain tuned in to the words, lol.
If you want to enjoy this video, put it at 1.75x playback speed.
While talking about fusions, I was hoping there would be some words of the original dragon, that being the fused form of Zekrom and Reshiram. This was its original design before the brothers who owned it argued and pulled it apart, just leaving reshiram, the cold, empty fragments of what was left. This is why kyogre actually fused with the other two, it was attempting to put the pieces back together.
I know the story about the Original Dragon, though I felt like it has a possibility of actually making an appearance in the nearby future, so in case of dating the video quicker - I left it out this time.
@@RetroNC Understandable
"God dam those little devils" got me cackling🤣
Ich hab nach dein ersten Teil von MPSS XD auch angefangen das Spiel zu zocken und hab mein Aquana nach dir benannt ^^
That's one good thumbnail!!!
I remember some other examples like Baby Lugia, The Origin Dragon, Venustoise and Groudon Possessed Pikachu.
I’m not mad about it but he forgot pink butterfree
But he talked about the pink pokemon, cause that’s the only way to explain why that butterfree is pink in the first place.
True
Imagine having a goldfish while your neighbor has a Magikarp that all of a sudden becomes a Leviathan capable of shooting laser beams lol
Yooo, I completely forgot about the Pokemopolis episode! For some reason, that one scared the shit out of me as a kid!
My favorite non-pokemon pokemon are definitely the mini noses. They are one of the less interesting examples in the video in terms of weirdness and origin, but they just crack me up. I really wish Pokemon animations would get more elaborate again so we could see the mini noses do more than just shooting beams occasionally.
EDIT: Oh, I just remembered. As a kid, I had a weird fascination with the faux Remoraid on Mantine's wings. I know it's meant to just be a regular Remoraid from modern depictions, but back then (very likely due to the small sprite size) it looked more like a tadpole than anything else. One of the mons that actually ended up teaching me about real animals, since I did not understand the symbiosis at all as a kid.
Good video RetroNC😎👍
Much appreciated as usual ;)
I can’t believe he called a mussel a “moozel” lmao
He called mosquitoes "miss-skwee-toes." Lol
3:00 is that schlatt?
That is sadly not Schlangus
Great video! I would like to suggest something tho. If it's not too difficult could you speak just a bit faster?
Put it in 1,25x if it its not too difficult
@@vicentperis5833 nah cause it sounds wierd with the sped up background music and all
My other videos are quicker, though for this style of video I decided to try out a bit slower pace. Noted!
I think the thing at 25:06 is maybd meant to be one of the sentinet toilet brush mascots from Scrubbing Bubbles? The resemblance is uncanny.
Pretty sure the Snot nose manga creature is supposed to be Diglett... yeah I know it sounds wrong, but many of the early creatures of that manga seem to have been created by just having the sprites or something. There's also a 3 eye Meowth without its coin.
“Snot nose manga creature” is so oddly specific out of context
I still don’t actually believe there are actual animals in Pokémon. I just wanna connected to say yes people do eat Pokémon, and some of the like things appearing in the anime was just laziness of the writers, and the bird is probably just a Pidgeotto or whatever and hey, we do have not to say that ancient fish probably isn’t an undiscovered. Pokémon we haven’t seen yet.
You forgot about the Original Dragon from Unova before it split into Reshiram, Zekrom and the Kyurem husk
25:06 Pretty sure that's a scrubbing bubble.
This is a cool list of facts, I heard about a lot that I hadn’t heard of from random trivia, like the MechaMew2 card or the mentions of random real-life animals in the games.
Unfortunately I couldn’t enjoy the video without playing it sped up at 1.5x - your wording at times is needlessly redundant/roundabout the point, and it didn’t help that I’m used to videos where people speak a lot faster. You have a lot of people who like your channel as-is obviously, and I’m not asking for a change specifically for me :P
i remember those sweet kiss or charm skills used to summon a type of cherubin than a little devil... maybe is just mandela effect.
Personally I think that Groudon from the Jirachi movie is actually our first time seeing Primal Groudon and they just didnt tell us thats what it was
I really thought Mother Beast would be mentioned in some way, be it in the Fusion category or Honoraable Mentions since it's my most favorite bosses in all of Pokemon. Oh well, still a great video man!
another amazing video! love this!!!
Honestly was expecting the pink/purple Kecleon from the "Pokemon Mystery Dungeons" series, and maybe Primal Dialga from "PMD: Explorers of time". Another thing is within thr Kanto museum with Kabutops sicking a big fish, I feel like they could redesign it to a new fossilized fish, or make it something like a Sharpedo if the scenes in Kanto gets revisited
They need to change the duck to blue so its a ducklet
09:13, 11:10 - In Gen 3, Nightmare and Lovely Kiss use the exact same creature: a pink imp. We can clearly see it's the same creature, just with a different shade of pink each time.
You didn't mention Zygarde!
Zygarde cells canonically kind of as the question of "what *is* a pokemon", by them explicitly not being considered Pokemon, not even the cores, until it's at least it's 10% of Zygarde's full form. Which is really weird.
I wish they had pushed more on having non-pokemon.
The Ultra Beasts feel like they almost were going to be, but backed off from it. It's a shame, it'd be cool if they really weren't to some extent, that while "compatible" in some ways they really weren't in others in gameplay, to make them more alien.
And of course, Type: Null is... created, out of unidentified creatures.
Sun and Moon feel like they had an idea of questioning "what is a pokemon" but it never actually pushed with it.
And honestly, the answer seems to be less of a hard classification and more something blurred. For Zygarde in particular "not being able to use moves" is mentioned as one of the reasons why is it not a Pokemon.
Wait a Minute!
Meta Groudon is a "Regional Fake"!
It looks like Groudon but is not Groudon!
7:29 I think mussels are more closer to plants, like yeah they're alive but they don't actually move around and do much...
Deertrack heights and whatever the other route was called could just be named after deerling
That's some obscure Palworld pokemomos
Acerola's mimikyu
I'm assuming the spin-off exclusives are omitted due to being spin-offs
Like the illusory Groudon, Alternate Primal Dialga and Ditto chest form in Mystery Dungeon.
However, one mainline option that came to mind as a questionable contender in the vein of Crystal Onix was Pudgy Pidgey,
An anime exclusive version of Pidgey that could've been a regional variant,
Since the anime says they might've lost their flying type due to isolation.
1:05 I need a Pokemon like that dog! It’s adorable
I feel like it's safe fo say that normal animals are just there but since Pokemon have fantastical powers it would make sense that they would be rathered then their powerless counterpart
Not sure if it counts cos you can use it for a short time with a specific warlord, but the Black Rayquaza in Pokemon Conquest. I thought it was so cool when I first saw it.
Sidenote: I love that catching Pokemon in Pokemon Conquest is based on "linking" with them or forming a bond instead of beating them up and throwing a ball at them. It's just a little timing mini game but I like to imagine doing different activities with the Pokemon to bond with it. Like to bond with an Aron, just feed it some scrap metal and pet him or bonding with a Machop with an arm wrestle or something. I just prefer the bonding with Pokemon route
You mean.. the shiny Rayquaza?
@@RetroNC I don't know why it just dawned on me that legendaries also have shinies, I feel so dumb 😂 my whole life it never even occurred to me
the final bosses of Super Mystery Dungeon and Gates to Infinity too
confusion rubber duckies.. how do they know what that duck looked like not psyduck
In anime exclusive there’s a regular polar cub head in an ice cream stand in Alola, and a green jiggly puff with Meowth eyes and ears and pink cherubi leaves as hair and a pink clown nose, as a statue toy in Kalos.
You forgots the most important non-pokemon, the humans.
Great video, keep it up 👍