Nope! Though Kern and Porsche do deserve some credit, the real secret ingredient is Mate Rimac out of Croatia. It’s his patents which Porsche has access to via VW which owns part of Rimac is what’s behind what the Taycan can do. VW didn’t gift Bugatti to Mate Rimac for no reason.
@@alcrt6630 And when the Taycan won the drag race in 2019 over the Tesla Model S Ludicrous, which had +64HP +250Nm and was lighter... So whose patents were those, Mr. Engineer? (hint : 1. Mr.Bean, 2. Bumblebee 3. Slipknot)
@@AlfDagg Don't get me wrong. I thought it was great to hear the squeals because it shows what happens to them. I have no plans to buy an electric vehicle. I love the sounds my car makes.
Porsche's cars are so amazing that, by just tweaking them little bit here and there they are able to make such a difference on the track in the lap times... insane... same with 991 GT2 RS MR, 992 GT3 and now This...
@@AlfDagg Wrong. Track alignment doesn't work well on street, and vs. vs. That's primarily the change that Porsche "tweaks" from their standard cars for the records. It's right in the manual as required settings for track use with my 911 Turbo S.
Porsche beats the competition even with less horse power once again. That's because it's all about acceleration on a boring straight line for some not understanding that the real fun is driving fast through corners. First electric Porsche production car build especially for race tracks will be insane. Taycan is pretty much a "calm" Porsche after all.
Almost 50 years ago I had a little 914. On the straightaways, I lost out to anyone who had more horsepower. Once we hit the curves, it was a completely different story and no one could keep up.
Incredible that just some setup changes and a bit more acceleration is enough to beat a car that has significantly better power to weight ratio. On tyres that are similar in class too since P Zero Corsas can pretty much just rival PS4S and not Cup 2
Great driving, you can tell the Taycan is nose heavy with lots of understeer especially on corner entry, the driver matches that with awesome braking application.
Knowing that Porsche is now leading the standard for performance EV and performance hybrid cars, I would love to see what they could do in Formula 1. Either as a team or PU supplier.
Wow.. I just wanted to write the same thing. Every little correction on the streering wheel makes the car tilt directly because of its inertia. Somewhat scary. Was looking directly for the technical data and it weights 2125-2395 kg! I think you need lots of experience to ride such a car in such conditions. Much respect to the driver and to porsche.
For those who don't like it being so silent, I would love to see straight -cut gears! giving her a more lightweight and more robust design. Making it a more lightweight and stronger 2-speed gearbox and that would make her scream! Make her sound like a Muncie M-22 Rock Crusher with 2 : 22 cuts please!
Generating acoustic noise is wasting energy. Quieter gear sets are faster. I don't buy a car for the sound it makes, it's how it drives, how it performs. And I for one am not a fan of loud exhausts.
Gentlemen, what you are witnessing is a culmination of over 80 years of pedigreed racing heritage, coupled with an automobile manufacturer's supreme ability at martialling it's human technical and engineering resources in record time to create a car that less than ten years ago was all but impossible to bring to market. I think there's another word that describes the phenomena: passion. And it's passion that has helped to keep Porsche ahead of some of the most aggressive and talented competition in the industry. Congrats to Porsche AG! Of course, I certainly doesn't hurt that Lars Kern was behind the wheel; someone who knows the ring better than I know my own driveway...
For context, the previous "Electric Production" recordholder - Tesla Model S Plaid - did the 20.832km stretch in 7:35.579. Congratulations to Porsche 🥳🎉
@@alexz8373 The regular tesla model s plaid posted a 7:35 .. the taycan turbo s posted a 7:33 .. porsche beat the plaid when both used street tires . tesla "Track pack" cheated it had to use track tire semi slicks (GoodYear Eagle SuperCar 3Rs) that are only used for track times not for street use to beat the porsche taycan,panamera turbo s, m5cs,m3cs, and some other 4 door sedans that all used STREET TIRES. The tesla plaid has 1,000hp and the other cars i named have 400hp less then the plaid. Yet when they all used street tires those cars beat it. The semi slicks on the track pack plaid alone shaves off 10-15 sec. The track pack then posted a 7:25 Think how embarrassing that is that a car with 1000hp couldn't beat a 400hp less taycan. BMW/Porsche design and handling is on another planet.
A basically stock (cage and tyre upgrade) 911 Turbo S came 2nd overall at Pikes Peak Hillclimb this year while a stripped Plaid with extra aero driven by Randy Pobst came 19th; nearly a 400HP difference (along with differences in CoG and altitudinal power loss). The Plaid even lost to a Model 3 which came in 8th; so much for power being everything! It would be very interesting to see what a Taycan could do on the hill, both stock and prepped.
Sorry to disappoint you but you are comparing a TRACK car with a 5 door family car😂 Also don’t forget that the brakes the Plaid has are absolute trash and should not be selled on it.
@@gh0st_dem0lisherol it’s the opposite. The turbo S was completely stock, even road tires. The plaid was with full slick and with a extreme race car aero kit,… fully prepared and with 400hp more. The turbo S is still faster
Depending on the vehicular configuration, lifting may change the tractional balance of the car; the driver can use this to their advantage in maneuvering their vehicle. On AWD electric vehicles (such as this Taycan), this will likely “free up” some traction for the front tires - which would be employed longitudinally on throttle - and allow them to redirect more traction laterally, allowing quicker turn in. Edit: Additionally, lifting may result in a rear-biased engine braking effect depending on configuration (such as in RWD cars), whereby more traction would be redirected from the rear wheels to the front.
When I was younger, I used to road race my Porsche on several different race tracks near Los Angeles. The tires were always the first to be replaced. Not for wear on the rubber, but the sidewalls would not hold up and develop bubbles.
And I would assume its not just the record either. Tesla would fall apart after several laps but Porsche would do it over and over again as long as the battery holds up, and this would apply to lots of fancy exotic supercars with incombust engine as well. Porsche are built like tanks.
The plaid has better battery cooling which is why it can do 1000HP and taycan is 650HP, it's single speed motor also is a monster compared to the 2 speed gear box in the taycan at 17,000RPM. The plaid is built better, the taycan is built at a higher cost.
@@Rezcuz In 10 years maybe. The Taycan itself could loose 100-200kg if it was turned into a track car with light interior, no back seats and low luxury like the other 911 track models. cutting some range of the 500-600kg battery to save 100kg or more is also a possibility and that would change the requirement on the suspension a lot.
Never understand the hype of Tesla. I watched the model S plaid run and it clearly lacks the grip. Porsche once proves again that horsepower is not everything!
Tesla’s solution is to always add more power. Just like the good old days of American muscle cars, quarter mile, which is a flawed way of measuring performance in a vehicle. Then a lot of the fan boys are mislead.
C’était Super, parfait à 80%, vous pourriez remplacer le logo Taycan Turbo S par la vidéo d’un drone pour voir les dérapages du véhicule dans les virages. La visualisation des accélérations et freinages sont parfaites. C’est vraiment une super idée.
tjo 2 Sek schneller mit 300 PS weniger, das genau ist der Unterschied zwischen einer Computerfirma die Autos baut und einem Automobilhersteller mit Rennsport DNA ;-) Gut gemacht Porsche!
That 7:32 was the short course. Meaning the Taycan did a 7:28 around the Short course. So it's faster than the Giulia QV, One of my fav Saloon cars lol.
I own one of the Taycan Turbo S and can tell you that anything faster would be insane. At times its acceleration is breathtaking and its fair to say I've had a few hairy moments. Road cars that can do 0-60 in sub 3 seconds is a bit daft but a problem that the shift to EV will undoubtedly bring.
@@freakattack9616 the Plaid record holder at Laguna Seca, VIR and Big Willow. Overall Sedan record holder at Big Willow gas or electric. It can't handle lies. The Plaid has a lateral grip of 1.08g silly rabbit
the car that did those reccords is of unplugged perfromance which literally has stripped down interiors and big wings and a massive ground effect diffuser...you aint fooling no one foolish american car fanboy...here a taycan with bare mods just dunked 2 seconds on your precious ipad mobile
This is a Taycan with a ( performance kit ). With Pirelli P Zero Corsa sports tyres. The compound is similar to that of racing tyres. Tesla's plaid (7:35.579)was on regular street tires. If the Plaid had the same tires,,, the Plaid will be like 10 seconds even faster than the Taycan. Simply because the plaid has so much more horse power. Tycan 750hp vs Plaid 1050hp. Though i am sure the Porsche is a better handling car. Just watch, Elon will beat that record with just a change of tires and brakes.
This video shows exactly why I still can't commit to switching over to an electric car. It's doing a bloody rapid 7:33 around the Nordschleife and still looks and feels way too boring without all the sounds a car needs to make. Great car and accomplishment regardless.
The nostalgia hit when I heard the tire squeal and the engines whine. Sounds just like Gran Turismo 3/4! Oh my. It's almost as if they took the sounds from this video. XD
DEAR PORSCHE, GOD BLESS YOU MY FRIENDS. I AM VERY PROUD OF YOU AND VERY HAPPY FOR YOU. I HOPE ALL OF YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE. I HOPE YOU HAD THE BEST AND HAPPIEST CHRISTMAS OF YOUR ENTIRE LIFE AND THE BEST AND HAPPIEST 4TH OF JULY OF YOUR ENTIRE LIFE. I LOVE PORSCHE. I BELIEVE THAT MR. ESPARZA AND ALL OF MY BEAUTIFUL FRIENDS BLESSED ME WITH A CAR COLLECTION/ MUSEUM IN MIAMI WITH SEVERAL ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL PORSCHES. WOW! I WOULD ABSOLUTELY CRY TO SEE IKONIKS TODAY AND CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS, BLESSINGS AND LIFE. 🙏 SINCERELY PETER
Yep. All the Tesla haters were saying how the taycan would crush the plaid which apparently “can’t stop or turn” and it did. By 2 seconds on a 20.8km track 💀 hardly crushing is it lmao. Not to mention the taycan has a higher top speed bc the plaid was limited to 156mph in its run. I’d say these cars are both very equal on a track. Still, congrats to Porsche.
@@assortednuts8436 Porsche proves that more power isn’t always better. If Porsche decides to come out with a 3 motor 1000 hp ev then that tesla would lose
@@NICKCAMP04 They could not so that without adding weight. Tesla was initially planning to give the Plaid 4 instead of 3 engines. This would give it 1400HP. But Musk said it was too close to the point of deminishing returns, too much heat, too much weight etc etc. More power would not give it any substantial gain anymore.
@@ZedNinetySix_ Care yes, but not about weight. Made to look like a 4 seater 911 but built like a budget mini Panamera. Actually way cheaper starting price than Panamera which is weird for an EV over ICE.
@@lances4803 Well depends on the breed and also the care taken of them. German horses usually are a tad bit stronger however American horses are easier to take care
I'm just wondering, when was this footage taken, is that what a Nurburgring looks like mid august??? No leaves on the trees or on the ground, this looks more like late march or early april, other than that great time.
Porsche can do it few times in a row, till the battery is flat. Tesla can do it once with loosing bolts and screws in every corner, high quality manufacturing for sure. 😂 I can say, new motto for Tesla should be like: "The more you drive Tesla, the lighter it is" 😄
The Taycan can only do one Lap at the Ring before experiencing thermal issues. Many people have reported that. I know you're trying to be funny, but get your info correct.
@@sachinchaphekar246 damn it lost all that and still was holding the world record? that's a win in their book. You telling me a porshce that uses aero parts not straight from the factory that you can only get in Germany is only like 3 seconds faster than a family car.
@@dar7279 you telling me that tesla can't even complete one lap of the ring without breaking down so they have to use ceramics that they haven't even put up on sale yet 😂😂👍?
I wish there was a way to add a gearbox or simulate a gearbox to bring the enjoyment/engagement up with these EVs. The simple act of up/down shifting gives you so much more driver engagement and increases the overall enjoyment of the experience. Imagine the fun of having a 6-8 speed gearbox with the incredible acceleration these EVs bring. I think it would go a long way for driver experience.
Due to the broad powerband (almost maximum torque from 0 RPMs) and incredible rev range of most electric motors, there is no simply need. But, I agree. Just throttle brake and steering is pretty boring. The skill component of driving is progressively being taken out of the equation (not that paddle shifters add a great deal of challenge, but a proper H-pattern does).
Straight -cut gears! Make it sound like a Muncie M-22 Rock Crusher please! That would make it a more lightweight 2-speed gearbox and that would make her scream!
@@blackpancake6354 I'm curious if it could be possible to simulate a gearbox without adding much weight. Possibly through software and maybe something like haptics built into the car to create the illusion of something mechanical happening through vibrations. I'm not an engineer, but it would be great to explore ideas like this because the feeling behind shifting brings so much fun to the experience for me. I understand EVs are the future, but doing something to preserve that visceral part of driving a traditional vehicle would go a long way.
Without a good motor sound its so unemotional... that i cant enjoy it really, even that i know its a masterpeace of a car and an awesome driving and needs a lot of skill to archive this time...
Once again, Porsche proves us they are far above any other brand, thanks to their incredible engineering. Respect. I used to own a Porsche and I still miss it ;)
Obviosly neither the Tesla Plaid nor the Porsche Taycan are built for the track. An ev is currently only an daily driver car. But you can clearly see the Taycan is another level regarding brake and handling performance as the Tesla.
On another level? 2 seconds faster..don't forget, its purposly build as a sports car. (just like the Tesla Roadseter will be) And this Porsche had Pirelli P Zero Corsa sports tyres in this test. Not street legal tyres on which the Model S was only 2 seconds slower.
@@KaypangAsli No buddy, the taycan lost from the road legal (with standaard tyres) Plaid before. So now Porsche descided to equip the standaard Taycan with rollcage, other seats, porsche Dynamic Chassis Control, 21-inch RS-Spyder wheels and Pirelli P Zero Corsa tyres. Now the taycan was able to best the standaard Plaid with 2 seconds over a 7 minutes lap. These cars are both awesome.
@@freakattack9616 did you read my comment? Or do you choose to stay ignorant as it fits your narrative / the thing you want to believe? Give the plaid the same tyres and it will be faster than the Taycan. Will you then also reply with "that says it all". The top of the line Taycan is much, much more expensive than the Models. The models also does not have carbon brakes etc etc. It's not meant as a sportscar. Porsche always has driving dynamics in their mind while building a car, at a cost ofcourse. Tesla is building the roadster, it will eat the Taycan for lunch. Does that mean the Taycan is bad? No. They are all great cars that some lucky few can afford. It's meaningless to discuss or to say; that one is bad because the other was 2 seconds (over 7 minutes) faster. It's stupid.
The secret weapon is behind the steering wheel....Lars Kern. Immer wieder ein pures Vergnügen ihn fahren zu sehen. Allerhöchsten Respekt
Bro I thought the german was his full name for a second
Yes absolutely, the Driver was super smooth with steering around the track.. Porsche MADE IN GERMANY
Nope! Though Kern and Porsche do deserve some credit, the real secret ingredient is Mate Rimac out of Croatia. It’s his patents which Porsche has access to via VW which owns part of Rimac is what’s behind what the Taycan can do. VW didn’t gift Bugatti to Mate Rimac for no reason.
@@alcrt6630 And when the Taycan won the drag race in 2019 over the Tesla Model S Ludicrous, which had +64HP +250Nm and was lighter... So whose patents were those, Mr. Engineer?
(hint : 1. Mr.Bean, 2. Bumblebee 3. Slipknot)
Lars Kern & Porsche, perfect kombination
Without the engine sound the tire noise sounds like they are being tortured. Love it.
It sounds like crap to be fair. ICE for me.
@@AlfDagg Don't get me wrong. I thought it was great to hear the squeals because it shows what happens to them. I have no plans to buy an electric vehicle. I love the sounds my car makes.
The poor, poor tyres…
@@AlfDagg no one asked
They are also screaming so much because of the ridiculous weight.
Porsche's cars are so amazing that, by just tweaking them little bit here and there they are able to make such a difference on the track in the lap times... insane... same with 991 GT2 RS MR, 992 GT3 and now This...
They could do that in the factory but they won't. They want you to pay pay pay!
@@AlfDagg True.. 😂😂
Yeah, but the question is, if they are still production cars after tweaks
@@VVojtas10 As per the Nürburgring officials, it's a resounding yes.
@@AlfDagg Wrong. Track alignment doesn't work well on street, and vs. vs. That's primarily the change that Porsche "tweaks" from their standard cars for the records. It's right in the manual as required settings for track use with my 911 Turbo S.
That's an amazing lap time. Great car, great driver.
Porsche beats the competition even with less horse power once again. That's because it's all about acceleration on a boring straight line for some not understanding that the real fun is driving fast through corners. First electric Porsche production car build especially for race tracks will be insane. Taycan is pretty much a "calm" Porsche after all.
Yeah, check out a track focused electric Cayman concept they put together with 900+ HP. Search for "Chris Harris GT4 ePerformance"
Almost 50 years ago I had a little 914. On the straightaways, I lost out to anyone who had more horsepower. Once we hit the curves, it was a completely different story and no one could keep up.
@@BatDimen it’s a 1073 hp weapon.
With less HP but with 80 wear tires vs 300 wear tires
@@juanmedinar20 less HP but better chassis and better suspension
Tesla Plaid just a garbage with 1000hp electric motor
Along with the car we must give some credit to the driver. Lars Kern is setting record after record after record.
Fantastic results from Porsche! Such an awesome car and an impressive lap time.
I’m just happy that a manufacturer like Porsche who actually knows what sports cars should be like is on top again.
!remindme 3 months
@@RC-fp1tl what's up
@@pedrov8649 tesla just beat it
Tesla cut that time by 8 seconds with the s plaid track pack
@@pafkataldr123 beat me to it
Incredible that just some setup changes and a bit more acceleration is enough to beat a car that has significantly better power to weight ratio. On tyres that are similar in class too since P Zero Corsas can pretty much just rival PS4S and not Cup 2
Exactly the plaid has a superior power to weight and this happens
@@ericship8383 thats because its just a Tesla lol
Super smooth drive, managed the weight perfectly and used coasting to his advantage. Harder to pull off than a race car lap I imagine. Congratulations
Just fantastic! I drive since 35 Years Porsche.. its a Passion
Great driving, you can tell the Taycan is nose heavy with lots of understeer especially on corner entry, the driver matches that with awesome braking application.
Knowing that Porsche is now leading the standard for performance EV and performance hybrid cars, I would love to see what they could do in Formula 1. Either as a team or PU supplier.
They are currently trying to buy a 50% stake in Red Bull Technologies Group. And are looking to join F1 in 2026 when the new engine regs start!
Porsche is leading the standard with its 1 ev?
@@abbeappe1306 in terms of driving pleasure and performance there’s no rival to the Taycan really
@@j1b996
In performance Plaid is faster.. both in straight line and around the Nürburgring
@@teslaadverts Not at the Nürburgring... delusional fankid
What happens if you combine one of the best drivers with German engineering?
The answer is this video
Didn’t aged well….
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I can feel the weight just watching the video, imagine actual driving it on track!
the driver had to go on the brakes early, yeah. amazing how that still yields are good time, just because there's no shifting involved and stuff
Wow.. I just wanted to write the same thing. Every little correction on the streering wheel makes the car tilt directly because of its inertia. Somewhat scary. Was looking directly for the technical data and it weights 2125-2395 kg!
I think you need lots of experience to ride such a car in such conditions. Much respect to the driver and to porsche.
200 kg more than Plaid which is a roomier car. Porsche didn't even try.
A modified Tesla (brakes, mostly) or heel itself a lot.
It's one fast whale, that's for sure.
@@Cloxxki Porsche didn't even try, yet smoked the way more powerful and lighter Tesla on the Ring. That says it all.
Great job 👍🏻💪🏻 Porsche!❤️
Porsche is amazing, it looks so easy for the taycan to do a lap this fast compared to others EV with +300hp.
The sound of the tires and the view out the windshield is pure violence. Driver is sooooo calm.
Pure pleasure to watch him drive such an awesome car.
How much was the battery Heat at the end of the track?
For those who don't like it being so silent, I would love to see straight -cut gears! giving her a more lightweight and more robust design.
Making it a more lightweight and stronger 2-speed gearbox and that would make her scream!
Make her sound like a Muncie M-22 Rock Crusher with 2 : 22 cuts please!
Generating acoustic noise is wasting energy. Quieter gear sets are faster. I don't buy a car for the sound it makes, it's how it drives, how it performs. And I for one am not a fan of loud exhausts.
@@Turboy65 why do race cars exclusively use loud straight cut gears then if normal gears are faster ?
@@leroloralarlora Strength.
@@leroloralarlora straight cut gears are more durable and therefore can handle a lot more power while being lighter.
Amazing lap
Porsche continues with the best ! CAR AND DRIVER !
Gentlemen, what you are witnessing is a culmination of over 80 years of pedigreed racing heritage, coupled with an automobile manufacturer's supreme ability at martialling it's human technical and engineering resources in record time to create a car that less than ten years ago was all but impossible to bring to market. I think there's another word that describes the phenomena: passion. And it's passion that has helped to keep Porsche ahead of some of the most aggressive and talented competition in the industry. Congrats to Porsche AG!
Of course, I certainly doesn't hurt that Lars Kern was behind the wheel; someone who knows the ring better than I know my own driveway...
Culmination of over 80 years didn’t last long… Plaid did 7:25 ;)
@@alexz8373yeah and gt3 did it with less than half the HP in 6:55 what's your point?
For context, the previous "Electric Production" recordholder - Tesla Model S Plaid - did the 20.832km stretch in 7:35.579. Congratulations to Porsche 🥳🎉
I think Porsche just started a war😂
For context, the Plaid used on Nurburgring had a top speed of 265 km/h.
Now it's 350 km/h, so the record will not last long...
@@alexz8373 The regular tesla model s plaid posted a 7:35 .. the taycan turbo s posted a 7:33 .. porsche beat the plaid when both used street tires . tesla "Track pack" cheated it had to use track tire semi slicks (GoodYear Eagle SuperCar 3Rs) that are only used for track times not for street use to beat the porsche taycan,panamera turbo s, m5cs,m3cs, and some other 4 door sedans that all used STREET TIRES. The tesla plaid has 1,000hp and the other cars i named have 400hp less then the plaid. Yet when they all used street tires those cars beat it. The semi slicks on the track pack plaid alone shaves off 10-15 sec. The track pack then posted a 7:25
Think how embarrassing that is that a car with 1000hp couldn't beat a 400hp less taycan. BMW/Porsche design and handling is on another planet.
The driving is absolutely smooth and clean. Respect
I wish they displayed a realtime battery SoC or energy consumption during the lap.
Corner exit acceleration is vicious
Porsche power 💪💪💪
No! Porsche engineering
@@andresantel2137 of course! 👍👍
that brake modulation is insane
You my fine sir are completely out of your mind! What a great video!
Wow so even with 750 hp and weighing 5,100 lbs it beats the plaid with 1200 hp and weighing 4,750 lbs lmaooo
750 is only during launch mode, I think it's 625hp or something.
@@prajwalkpbhat8998 wow so that’s actually even more embarrassing I forgot it doesn’t even have a flat power curve
A basically stock (cage and tyre upgrade) 911 Turbo S came 2nd overall at Pikes Peak Hillclimb this year while a stripped Plaid with extra aero driven by Randy Pobst came 19th; nearly a 400HP difference (along with differences in CoG and altitudinal power loss). The Plaid even lost to a Model 3 which came in 8th; so much for power being everything!
It would be very interesting to see what a Taycan could do on the hill, both stock and prepped.
Sorry to disappoint you but you are comparing a TRACK car with a 5 door family car😂 Also don’t forget that the brakes the Plaid has are absolute trash and should not be selled on it.
@@gh0st_dem0lisherol it’s the opposite. The turbo S was completely stock, even road tires. The plaid was with full slick and with a extreme race car aero kit,… fully prepared and with 400hp more. The turbo S is still faster
@@gh0st_dem0lisher Turbo S is not a track car,lacking many features such as AERO,like a GT2 RS GT3 RS
Amazing. No turbo lag at all.
Lol
They really know what they’re doing huh? Love there cars hopefully I own one
Curious how much battery they used to complete this lap 🤔
I'd dare to say 90%
Not as much as my iPhone battery used watching this video
Who cares? 🤦♂
Winner for most stupid question on RUclips 2022
50-ish percent most likely.
My best estimate is around 30 kWh.
What else to expect? Porsche has a real professional motorsports program. Tesla has backyard motorsports run by enthusiasts.
By Elon's slayer
@@KaypangAsli staffed by video gamers.
I like it. I love it. Wow that’s was really fast lap.
Why does the driver lift and coast before some corners instead of a more aggressive approach? Would it unsettle the car or are the graphics flawed?
Depending on the vehicular configuration, lifting may change the tractional balance of the car; the driver can use this to their advantage in maneuvering their vehicle. On AWD electric vehicles (such as this Taycan), this will likely “free up” some traction for the front tires - which would be employed longitudinally on throttle - and allow them to redirect more traction laterally, allowing quicker turn in.
Edit: Additionally, lifting may result in a rear-biased engine braking effect depending on configuration (such as in RWD cars), whereby more traction would be redirected from the rear wheels to the front.
Hope there were counsellors available for those tires after this, they sounded like they were being abused.
When I was younger, I used to road race my Porsche on several different race tracks near Los Angeles. The tires were always the first to be replaced. Not for wear on the rubber, but the sidewalls would not hold up and develop bubbles.
the taycan is like the quiet kid
literally and bc it bet everyone out of nowhere
What was the charge level at the end of the lap?
What is the lap time for the 20.6 km section?
And I would assume its not just the record either. Tesla would fall apart after several laps but Porsche would do it over and over again as long as the battery holds up, and this would apply to lots of fancy exotic supercars with incombust engine as well. Porsche are built like tanks.
Tesla has 400hp more, less weight and was slower than this Taycan. Proves what kind of shitboxes Teslas are.
The plaid has better battery cooling which is why it can do 1000HP and taycan is 650HP, it's single speed motor also is a monster compared to the 2 speed gear box in the taycan at 17,000RPM. The plaid is built better, the taycan is built at a higher cost.
@Dante Thomas the 500HP model 3 beat the taycan on a 55km track in japan because the taycan overheated.
@@miguellopez3392 no one cares about a unknown japanese fake event lmao
@@dantethomas7964 it happened twice. Japanese EV prix 2020.
Now it’s time to see the plaid fanboys cry 😂
Get ready for a 2000hp Plaid. =)
@@elms350z with 8000 lbs of weight. Keep the weight coming and the handling really goes down.
@@elms350z tell Elon to invest on brakes first
@@elms350z get ready for a 2000 hp porsche
@@andresantel2137 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
you can feel the adrenaline just with the video, it's like going on an aircraft
Watch the 919 lap
Imagine this car with even more power
The motors are capable of 1073 hp - all Porsche needs to do is allow it
3 motor model and call it the Turbo GT.
Imagine this car 500kg lighter to have the same weight as the 911 turbo, the performance difference would be huge.
@@larsjrgensen5975 Well that simply isn't going to happen
@@Rezcuz In 10 years maybe.
The Taycan itself could loose 100-200kg if it was turned into a track car with light interior, no back seats and low luxury like the other 911 track models.
cutting some range of the 500-600kg battery to save 100kg or more is also a possibility and that would change the requirement on the suspension a lot.
Elon’s gonna be salty lmao
You mean Tesla fanboys are going to be salty
Never understand the hype of Tesla. I watched the model S plaid run and it clearly lacks the grip. Porsche once proves again that horsepower is not everything!
@@davidwan6112 the drag races is the reason why they got popular
@@andresantel2137 Wait a couple days and read this comment section again 😂
Tesla’s solution is to always add more power. Just like the good old days of American muscle cars, quarter mile, which is a flawed way of measuring performance in a vehicle. Then a lot of the fan boys are mislead.
C’était Super, parfait à 80%, vous pourriez remplacer le logo Taycan Turbo S par la vidéo d’un drone pour voir les dérapages du véhicule dans les virages. La visualisation des accélérations et freinages sont parfaites. C’est vraiment une super idée.
tjo 2 Sek schneller mit 300 PS weniger, das genau ist der Unterschied zwischen einer Computerfirma die Autos baut und einem Automobilhersteller mit Rennsport DNA ;-) Gut gemacht Porsche!
A GIULIA quadrifolio has a lap time of 7'32", without the outrageous acceleration of a taycan. Oh dear oh dear
It is also much lighter
@@DavidGarcia29497 of course the QV does not have a giant battery pack. But for the money the time is insane
That 7:32 was the short course. Meaning the Taycan did a 7:28 around the Short course. So it's faster than the Giulia QV, One of my fav Saloon cars lol.
@@tsorpniala9820 Yeah, in terms of price/performance ratio, the Alfa is fantastic
The Panamera did a 7:29 on the same course.
I own one of the Taycan Turbo S and can tell you that anything faster would be insane.
At times its acceleration is breathtaking and its fair to say I've had a few hairy moments.
Road cars that can do 0-60 in sub 3 seconds is a bit daft but a problem that the shift to EV will undoubtedly bring.
Sport mode in my Plaid is called Taycan mode.
@@juanmedinar20 your car can't handle tho.
@@freakattack9616 the Plaid record holder at Laguna Seca, VIR and Big Willow. Overall Sedan record holder at Big Willow gas or electric. It can't handle lies. The Plaid has a lateral grip of 1.08g silly rabbit
the car that did those reccords is of unplugged perfromance which literally has stripped down interiors and big wings and a massive ground effect diffuser...you aint fooling no one foolish american car fanboy...here a taycan with bare mods just dunked 2 seconds on your precious ipad mobile
@@juanmedinar20 Tesla: Pulls the new record by installing another motor and having a whole thousand horsepower
Porsche: NEIN Intensifies
Congrats 🎊
Holding back throttle. Coasting. Prevent early overheat or prevent beating Panamera?
What's up with the coasting? They must either need more brakes or more grip to go faster.
Saving battery and controlling it's temperature. Tesla Plaid also coasted alot.
EVs still need a lot of development to be used at 100% at the track.
Tesla record: plaid+100500 horsepower.
Porsche record: "Tesla? What is it?"
This is a Taycan with a ( performance kit ). With Pirelli P Zero Corsa sports tyres. The compound is similar to that of racing tyres. Tesla's plaid (7:35.579)was on regular street tires. If the Plaid had the same tires,,, the Plaid will be like 10 seconds even faster than the Taycan. Simply because the plaid has so much more horse power. Tycan 750hp vs Plaid 1050hp. Though i am sure the Porsche is a better handling car. Just watch, Elon will beat that record with just a change of tires and brakes.
@@TOMMYBOY6969 P zero corsas are just a normal tire no? A real track tire would be a Trofeo R.
1050hp use normal street tires, it’s wired ~🤔
@@TOMMYBOY6969 u are in love with mr. musk? hahah
@@TOMMYBOY6969 Taycan Turbo S runs at 625 hp (761 with Launch Control, which is not used in these attempts)..
This video shows exactly why I still can't commit to switching over to an electric car.
It's doing a bloody rapid 7:33 around the Nordschleife and still looks and feels way too boring without all the sounds a car needs to make.
Great car and accomplishment regardless.
The nostalgia hit when I heard the tire squeal and the engines whine. Sounds just like Gran Turismo 3/4! Oh my. It's almost as if they took the sounds from this video. XD
so the Tesla plaid is a shitter after all
always been
Always mislead fan boys in every thing.
Always has been
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What's the record lap time on 20,6 km??
that is one set of tyres after this fast lap.
This record is faster than Tesla Model S Plaid
Yep. All the Tesla haters were saying how the taycan would crush the plaid which apparently “can’t stop or turn” and it did. By 2 seconds on a 20.8km track 💀 hardly crushing is it lmao. Not to mention the taycan has a higher top speed bc the plaid was limited to 156mph in its run. I’d say these cars are both very equal on a track. Still, congrats to Porsche.
@@assortednuts8436 the taycan is 150+ kg heavier and is 260 hp down the plaid was limited to 165 mph while the taycan is 163 mph
@@assortednuts8436 Porsche proves that more power isn’t always better. If Porsche decides to come out with a 3 motor 1000 hp ev then that tesla would lose
@@NICKCAMP04not lose... Just get fcked 😅
@@NICKCAMP04 They could not so that without adding weight. Tesla was initially planning to give the Plaid 4 instead of 3 engines. This would give it 1400HP. But Musk said it was too close to the point of deminishing returns, too much heat, too much weight etc etc. More power would not give it any substantial gain anymore.
Tesla will attempt the record again after adding one more motor just like usual. 🤣
those tires are so grippy amazing tires!!!
so... how much battery did you use for the lap?
Remember:
This is 2,395kg.
(5,280lbs)
Which means it’s heavier and less powerful than the model s plaid and still lapped faster
@@NICKCAMP04 Because it's built with care, thought, and time.
@@ZedNinetySix_ exactly
This pretty much debunks that a weight is a big factor, atleast for cars with no downforce.
@@ZedNinetySix_ Care yes, but not about weight. Made to look like a 4 seater 911 but built like a budget mini Panamera. Actually way cheaper starting price than Panamera which is weird for an EV over ICE.
I think the driver could do even 3-5 seconds better! 😁
He was being very energy conscious early on to not overheat it and lose more time.
Love the 6 Zylinder Boxer Sound !!!....
...ups was waiting for the NEW GT3 RS :D
Porsche the best as usual.
Now imagine the collab between Tesla and Porsche🤯 The raw electric power of a Tesla and the handling of a Porsche🔥
Tesla's tech is about to get outclassed by nearly everyone. See the lucid Saphire
Much better to imagine the collab between rimac & porsche. Its so close to reality.
@@justinbecker4772 Rimac: hahahahahaha nice delution
Tesla: Pulls the new record by installing another motor and having a whole thousand horsepower
Porsche: *NEIN Intensifies*
what a ride! respect! irre! mit einer stoischen ruhe 😎😎😎😎
I wonder how much difference throttle vectoring makes on track, if it's used in this car at all.
The only EV on the market that actually has character, end of story.
just your opinion
@@alexbramm8526 nah it’s a fact 😂
Who even cares about Tesla ??? Overhyped, numerous reports of crashes and blown up batteries,and BORING to look at and drive.
So you've never driven one.
@@GregHassler I’ve driven one. Not for me. No feed back. It’s fast but the driver doesn’t know how it got to over 100 mph.
@@GregHassler its like a electric, uglier Audi. Safe, and boring.
@@GregHassler we will not risk our life to drive a 4wheels coffin.
Many many explode cases
@@KaypangAsli tesla is the safest car in the world, that's a fact
Sick!
It's the best of the best!!
Taycan Turbo S or Tesla S Plaid? You can only have one.
Thanks I can bring smth other than Tesla. Taycan ofcourse.
Taycan
Well that would totally depend on which Tesla. Actually no it wouldn't lol I'm not too interested in those, so I would take the Porsche.
@@worldtravel101 I added it. Model S plaid is the Tesla
Taycan Turbo S Cross Turismo :)
Incredible. I guess the Plaid will now need 2000hp to beat this time.
and brakes lol
Nope, only performance kit(like taycan has equipper in this video. And yes, that includes better brakes)
@@uraniumcranium2613 noo, electric car using 80% regenerative braking instead disck brake
@@TesIaCH but tesla using spaceship brake technology. Elon's slayer say that.
@@KaypangAsli Yet crashes on the first corner. Mad Space Tech lol.
I wonder what the SoC at the end of the lap was :D
Imagine the g-force pulled on the 1st turn while going 45-50mph!
So it's 2 seconds faster than the Tesla?
and it has less horsepowers than the Tesla
@@bachbui i dont think you can compare US horses to German Horses
@@gagachecker1646 How do they differ?
@@lances4803 different genetics lead to better horse body shapes
@@lances4803 Well depends on the breed and also the care taken of them. German horses usually are a tad bit stronger however American horses are easier to take care
Still, any 911 > this...
I'm just wondering, when was this footage taken, is that what a Nurburgring looks like mid august??? No leaves on the trees or on the ground, this looks more like late march or early april, other than that great time.
Good question! Asked me the same...
May be two years old. They released the normal Turbo lap first. It didn't look like the driver was even trying.
Beautiful 👍
Porsche can do it few times in a row, till the battery is flat. Tesla can do it once with loosing bolts and screws in every corner, high quality manufacturing for sure. 😂 I can say, new motto for Tesla should be like: "The more you drive Tesla, the lighter it is" 😄
The Taycan can only do one Lap at the Ring before experiencing thermal issues. Many people have reported that. I know you're trying to be funny, but get your info correct.
@@KyleHubb the tesla that did the reccord last year literally lost its breaks and all its trim had come down and yeeted itself apart from the car
@@sachinchaphekar246 damn it lost all that and still was holding the world record? that's a win in their book. You telling me a porshce that uses aero parts not straight from the factory that you can only get in Germany is only like 3 seconds faster than a family car.
@@dar7279 you telling me that tesla can't even complete one lap of the ring without breaking down so they have to use ceramics that they haven't even put up on sale yet 😂😂👍?
Wooww taycan beat model S plaid.
Less power but better engineering.
Not just electrical gimmick.
The Plaid still holds the record at just 3 seconds faster.
@@teslaadverts its doesn't, Taycan holds the record. Plaid did 7:35, this did 7:33. Get your facts right. There are two distances.
@@freakattack9616
You are right. The video uses the wrong start and finish line, which confused me. Thought this was the shorter nurb config
@@teslaadverts same distance
That's so Porsche!!!! Or in other words... That's so IMPRESSIVE!!!!
Would love to see how much dealers in the US are marking these up now.
I wish there was a way to add a gearbox or simulate a gearbox to bring the enjoyment/engagement up with these EVs. The simple act of up/down shifting gives you so much more driver engagement and increases the overall enjoyment of the experience. Imagine the fun of having a 6-8 speed gearbox with the incredible acceleration these EVs bring. I think it would go a long way for driver experience.
but add gearbox will have more weight right?🤔
Due to the broad powerband (almost maximum torque from 0 RPMs) and incredible rev range of most electric motors, there is no simply need. But, I agree. Just throttle brake and steering is pretty boring. The skill component of driving is progressively being taken out of the equation (not that paddle shifters add a great deal of challenge, but a proper H-pattern does).
Straight -cut gears! Make it sound like a Muncie M-22 Rock Crusher please!
That would make it a more lightweight 2-speed gearbox and that would make her scream!
@@blackpancake6354 Straight-cut gears in it's 2 speed gearbox would be more lightweight, and make more wonderful noise!
@@blackpancake6354 I'm curious if it could be possible to simulate a gearbox without adding much weight. Possibly through software and maybe something like haptics built into the car to create the illusion of something mechanical happening through vibrations.
I'm not an engineer, but it would be great to explore ideas like this because the feeling behind shifting brings so much fun to the experience for me. I understand EVs are the future, but doing something to preserve that visceral part of driving a traditional vehicle would go a long way.
Without a good motor sound its so unemotional... that i cant enjoy it really, even that i know its a masterpeace of a car and an awesome driving and needs a lot of skill to archive this time...
Good things do not always have to be loud! Only fools can think like that!
@@AP-RSI you should learn to read - and then answer again!
@@tamgaming9861 "Without a good motor sound its so unemotional... " Just that...
@@AP-RSI and only fools would try to dictate others on what they should like or not.
That’s great, but can we get optional roof rails on all Porsche models. Thanks!
Once again, Porsche proves us they are far above any other brand, thanks to their incredible engineering. Respect. I used to own a Porsche and I still miss it ;)
Plaid only needed best brakes to destroyed this Porsche record.
@@alexz8373what he wrote still applies. Insane diff in power to weight
Obviosly neither the Tesla Plaid nor the Porsche Taycan are built for the track. An ev is currently only an daily driver car. But you can clearly see the Taycan is another level regarding brake and handling performance as the Tesla.
On another level? 2 seconds faster..don't forget, its purposly build as a sports car. (just like the Tesla Roadseter will be)
And this Porsche had Pirelli P Zero Corsa sports tyres in this test. Not street legal tyres on which the Model S was only 2 seconds slower.
@@Maarten_vd lets make it simple:
Proper chassis+600hp
VS
Garbage chassis+1000hp
@@KaypangAsli No buddy, the taycan lost from the road legal (with standaard tyres) Plaid before.
So now Porsche descided to equip the standaard Taycan with rollcage, other seats, porsche Dynamic Chassis Control, 21-inch RS-Spyder wheels and Pirelli P Zero Corsa tyres. Now the taycan was able to best the standaard Plaid with 2 seconds over a 7 minutes lap. These cars are both awesome.
@@Maarten_vd 400hp less, more weight, still faster than the Plaid. says it all
@@freakattack9616 did you read my comment? Or do you choose to stay ignorant as it fits your narrative / the thing you want to believe?
Give the plaid the same tyres and it will be faster than the Taycan.
Will you then also reply with "that says it all".
The top of the line Taycan is much, much more expensive than the Models. The models also does not have carbon brakes etc etc.
It's not meant as a sportscar.
Porsche always has driving dynamics in their mind while building a car, at a cost ofcourse.
Tesla is building the roadster, it will eat the Taycan for lunch. Does that mean the Taycan is bad? No. They are all great cars that some lucky few can afford.
It's meaningless to discuss or to say; that one is bad because the other was 2 seconds (over 7 minutes) faster.
It's stupid.
Make that artificial engine sound louder pls.
Straight -cut gears please!
Make it sound like a Muncie M-22 Rock Crusher please!
Impressive lap time from a electric supercar showing that an electric car can be exciting
This is a family sedan
Quietly exciting. Like masturbating. LOL!
Electric Supercars are faster one being second place even i think
Amazing car, but we can feel the weight just by looking at the video!
Screeching annoying
Get a GT3 then. No screeching there just naturally aspirated music
Troll! You won't have any screeching on the way to your Family Dollar Store
@@UncleFjester Probably screeching from the wife and kids! haha!
Needs better tires.
Records have to be set on production rubber. Track tires would do better and stay quiet