The Boeing 777 Is One Of History's Safest Planes. Can Its X Version SAVE Boeing And Beat Airbus?
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- Boeing thinks the 777X can help save the company. I have to say I agree. Let's talk about the facts, and the fact is that Boeing makes "Some" really safe planes other than the "MAX"
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - FACT- Boeing STILL Makes Some Of The Safest Aircraft In The World
3:32- Is Boeings BAD Luck About To Change?
7:07 - 777X vs A350 Compare
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I have to say that I don't care about which can fly longer because whether you're on a 777x or a 350, flying 17+ hours is not a fun experience.
Respectfully, I disagree. I flew on Singapore Airlines from Changi to Newark, nearly 18 hours. I would have done it for much longer if I could.
Have to say I agree but with a stop over, there's all that luggage to haul back and forth and the prolonged time added together with any delays. So for some, perhaps its not so much a trail but more a necessity of time. Although they would still have to get over the jet lag. To be fair, I dont think there's a answer, until air travel is much faster and that would have to contend with the green lobby, as did Concord together with the costs that enforced.
Maximus: "The Boeing 777 Is One Of History's Safest Planes"
Current Boeing Board and Management: "Hold my beer"
I have to agree, because the 737 was also one of the safest planes.
I'm pretty sure I just saw a video with yet another Boeing whistleblower saying the triple 7 is also problematic.
Brit here, have to say the 777 has been a true Icon, in my mind even better than the 747. Those Aircraft were built when Boeing was Boeing not amalgamated with that load of crap from McDonald Douglas. If the 777x was being built by Boeing of old, I would have no doubts but unfortunately its being built not by engineers but money men and my doubts come from their greed.
People don´t often think about this, but the 777-9 is have a larger total passenger floorspace than the 747-200, very close to the -300 and just slightly smaller than the -400.
People often don´t think about that, but the upper deck on the 747 is really quite small. And the lower deck is just a tad wider on the 747 than the 777x
@@matsv201 I am a Airbus fan but Boeing of old hold's a place in my heart, trouble is now, that Boeing like all American companies, put the dollar first and f..k everything and everybody else. I am amazed at the lack of government enforcement. After all, Boeing is part of a lot more than just airliners. I cannot understand why any of the CEO's have not been prosecuted. They ALL knew EXACTLY what they were doing. Boeing needs a complete clear out of its present management, cant see improvement ,if not.
@@johnchristmas7522 its... almost.. like boeing leadership bribed the goverment to give them more market leway... almost... i´m not saying they did
737 also had a pretty amazing safety record until boeing "improved" it.
It's like saying that person had a great driving record before becoming a crack addict or some such.
You are so dramatic.
@@RLTtizME you need a dictionary.
Thats the same with all old Boeing aircraft, I mean people talk of a 757 revival, as what's that to be a 757 MAX? With the present management setup I personally would not trust any of their aircraft.
@@johnchristmas7522 Tens of thousands do …..on a daily basis. You look like a fool tool.
@@johnchristmas7522 You have a high tolerance for self embarrassment.
The 777 was an engineering marvel designed and built under the outstanding leadership of Alan Mulally. The X was redesigned under the leadership of people who spend their lives on X (Twitter). The two aircraft ARE NOT THE SAME.
Say no more PLEASE !
The X is not a clean sheet design. It's a modification of the 777.
Even if it were the same Boeing is no longer capable of safely manufacturing it.
@Begeye-bh5ux The Max is a modification of a modification of a modification of a modification. The 777 is a modification of a clean sheet design.
Truthslayer
Nov 27th 2021 With a FCC fly along aboard a 777x thinking it was time to ask for a approval experienced a, "Uncommanded pitch event". These are not words one ever wants to hear again in relation to a Boeing aircraft after the Max disasters. But it happpened. Look up the many articles. The 777x did a MCAS. Come on Maximus, how did you miss this?
Boeing is working on a solution. They had to since the FAA has pointed it out and it made headlines.
@@Blank00 They're trying to fix the problem with software. The tail is too small and it has a high alpha problem.
Uh-oh!
All new planes have things to work out.
@@davemiller6055not after they have been certified and are in production.
I was working in Heathrow tower on the day the first United 777 arrived. We watched this impressive aircraft touch down. The tower controller said,
‘Welcome to London United 777….It looks just like a big Airbus.’ There followed ~ by Heathrow ATC timescales ~ a long silence, followed by a wounded voice saying ,
‘Err, don’t say that London.’
To be fair, the 777 looks a lot more like a 330 than any other Boeing aircraft.
Good analogy, safety is the most important thing. Let's hope Boeing can back on track. The new 777 looks awesome.
I wish!
For those that read the headlines about 777s losing wheels hydraulic fluids or that AA 777 that had a tire problem, that was on maintainence since those 777s are old enough, and the AA incident is blown out of proportion. As for the Latam 787 incident, it turned out to be caused by crew error.
Didn't the 747 have a door issue? That they knew about and did not fix until a bunch of people died?
I think he’s talking about the -400 and -8.
You are a little dramatic. Your bias is showing.
Yes and no. Yes that happened but not a design issue. The ground crew could not close the door latch by hand ( that’s normal ) so they used a belt loader tug to push it shut. Not procedure.
Facts?
Well the 737NG, 747, 757, 767 and 777 were all (mostly) designed, engineered and built before McDonnell-Douglas 'buy out / in'. Since then the 787, 737MAX were: Years late. Billions over budget. Being grounded. Yes 787 was grounded for safety reasons. Boeing couldn't even build a modified 767 for the USAF without being: Years late. Billions over budget. Being grounded. And for all the noise the 777X is: Years late. Billions over budget. Not certified. Sound familiar? Just keeping the tradition going.
Well Delta & United are still flying their 737's, 757's, 767's despite their age. Must be well built jetliners or not difficult to service ?
@@rscott2247 That was exactly my point. All built before the Boeing / McDonnell Douglas buy out after which every new aircraft has been a disaster and fatal for some.
You forgot about the British Airways 777 flight 38 that crashed coming into Heathrow due to a fault with the Oil/fuel heat transfer units causing ice in the Fuel. Also didnt Emirates crash another 777 at DBX. Think that was pilot error though and there were no fatalities on either accident. I do still believe is still a very safe plane however.
BA38 was the fault of RR
Thank you for finally making a Boeing video that isn't bashing it. The statistical point of view is refreshing.
if its a DEI, built by the lowester buider boeing, I aint going.
@@jesso777 noted. Don't know you, where you live or what, but knowing that you won't fly a Boeing jet, aka, "the lowest buider", is breaking news in somebody's world. Somewhere...
And there was me thinking that facts were whatever you wanted them to be. You learn something new every day here at Maximus! haha
The dreamliner hasn't failed yet
The problem with composite aircraft is there's no way to scan the structure of the aircraft for cracks or premature failure Boeing and Airbus both face this problem
Great video over all. You may want to consolidate the comparison parts it a tad hard to keep track. Also less production time in your part…. Love the channel overall all!!!
THANK YOU THANK YOU ! I am flying 4 times next month on such plane !! I was surprised by the low fare, booked then realized it was by 777 !!!
The engine issues are no fault of Boeing either. PW deserves at least majority of blame for UA328 and UA1175 and other similar incidents
and all the A321 grounded because of their engines.
You forgot BA G-YMMP flight BA16 on June 14th 2010. LHR
Neither fatal nor a hull loss AFAIK.
No fatalities but a total loss
@@tallan1491 I think BA38 (G-YMMM) in 2008 was the first hull loss, and there wasn't another till 2011 when an EgyptAir 200ER had a cockpit fire at the gate.
Aviation Safety Network shows the YMMP incident as causing "minor" damage; are you perhaps thinking of YMMM?
Regardless, the video is talking about fatal hull losses, so none of these incidents would qualify.
I'd argue that the Emirates 777 that was written off *could* qualify, given that a firefighter died tackling the blaze.
Gotta get some quality focused management in there and build the new 757x I designed for them.
The unaddressed caveat is - companies are already reducing their exposure to Boeing's 777x delays, by replacing 777x orders with a350s...and most airlines are investing heavily on at least standardising their fleets per market segment...
And what we see is that companies who focus on reducing fleet complexity usually turn to airbus (the degree of similarity between frames just makes it a better option).
Management by sight-unseen is not just corporate malfeasance, it’s Boeing policy
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The 777 is an icon of the skies, built when Boeing was an aircraft manufacturer.
But Boeing is now just an assembler of parts built elsewhere.
Hence the shift of airlines from Boeing to Airbus.
Hi Maximus, You forgot the Emirate’s B777 that crashed on the pilot go around that they messed up. A pilot problem NOT a Boeing problem. Thanks for all your hard work making these videos. Take care and stay safe. Regards Simon 👨✈️🙏🥃🫡
Well... the old 737 was safer than the MAX. The new 777 loses it's MA and it's probably being made by modern Boeing. So doubts are in order. Besides that, how long has Boeing been busy trying to get the certification in? Boeing just needs success desperately.
I was thinking the same
Indonesian airlines meanwhile (to Boeing) - with more need of narrow body (but there are case of big domestic routes occassionally use A330 - both Garuda and Lion and 777 for Garuda)
"Seriously, get your sh-t together on the narrow body affairs. (The loudest should be Lion)"
How long is a piece of string Maximus?
Somebody got to Maximus !
Will the X be as safe as the original is the big question!
U missed the BA B777 incident (Beijing - LHR) Max
That was the fault of RR
It is so refreshing to finally listen to a review of Boeing that isn’t for the sake of Boeing bashing but rather mentioning the redeeming facts about the plane manufacturer. It appears that only negative narratives on Boeing make the news. I congratulate you on sharing factual statistics on what has made Boeing a great commercial plane manufacturer
"Boeing WAS a great commercial plane manufacturer"
There you go fixed it for you.
You're welcome.
Boeing is responsible for the problems they create not those that report the facts.
Perhaps if they stopped constantly screwing up there wouldn't be a steady stream of negative but non the less true stories concerning this once great company.
But I miss the Boeing bashing! The company we love to hate!
Bashing?, no, exposing management rot and lazyness and greed.
Your forgetting the British Airways 777 that crash landed on 17th January 2008 due to the fuel oil heat exchanger. It was written off and declared a hull loss.
That was the fault of RR
The 747 and the 737 was very safe for its day. But i would say the standard of safty have improved since then, and they are in current day not really that safe any more.
757, A320 and all newer planes are better at keeping up with todays safty standard.
The major question would be, are the people assembling the 777 of the same caliber as the one assembling the 737. If so the 777 could have the same problems as the 737.
The main difference is that the A350 is actually flying passengers. The 777X is 5 years behind schedule and counting and Boeing has trashed the credibility of any statement it makes regarding the timing of certification and delivery.
Upward folding wingtips are a potential point of failure, especially if quality control is a problem. I hope I am wrong, but I cerainly will not be on that plane in the first years.
You shouldn't need to worry. It's been on fighter jets so what's the fuss about
The navy has had it since WW2
Everything is a potential point of failure
Chicken!
Roll the dice, Fly Boeing.
The majority of peope who fly probably don't know what model or brand of aircraft got them to their destination. For the airlines, it's likely a decision based upon reputational risk, fleet management risk, economics and availability. Safety is not high on the list as modern aircraft are safe by design (Max the notable exception to this), therefore I doubt the X can save Boeing, they will be saved by focusing on what matters to airlines, correctly building and delivering aircraft which will do their job without any drama
Boeing better get there 777x certified fast. I think Airbus will show there next gen aircraft in 2026. Its likely going to be a all carbonfibre prop-fan other vice somewhat conventional. Will have similar features as the A350, 787 and 777x apart from that.
It have been speculating that airbus was going to make a smaller 100pax aircraft. I think that is miss direction. The market is simply not that profitable. There been quite a lot of experimentation but i would say it very likely a conventional design. Possibly folding wingtip, possibly a canard.
As far of the size of the aircraft i have not manage to zero it down. But it would either be a 757 like A320 replacement, the other alternative is a 777x competitor, maybe even a bit larger, likely to be named A360 in that case.
The A350-900ULR can fly up to 11.163 miles, leaving all 777X versions behind.
Safety of 777 and 737 are historical, where design AND production gel. In more recent times, production lapses have broken the all-important bond and led to Boeing's ongoing issues. The 777X, even if designed to perfection, will still depend on Boeing putting it together well (😂😂) to succeed
What about the 777 accident that happened at Heathrow airport in London, where it crashed at the end of the runway when it was landing because fuel lines froze leading to the engines… that was definitely a engineering error
That was an engineering error on the part of RR
I hate the ride quality of composite construction. The first one I flew on was the B-757. It was awful!! Recently flew on a Airbus A-330 or A-321 from Hawaii to Portland. Noisy in first class and sub optimal leg room too!
Did you say "was" ? Past tense
Imagine the whole Boeing company is now hanging on whether any 787's crash due to fuselage structural failure after the latest whistleblower revelations on low build quality - if one crashes they're finished
Come on Maximus what's your view on the Pratt &Whitney PurePower engines shortage grounding aircraft all over the world
With everyone having phones no videos or photos of worker jumping on wings to get panel to fit or issues with fusalodge plug not fitting. Not trying to defend Boeing.
It’s an update of an ancient design. Also almost all the money is made with single-aisle aircraft. It will just be another monumental screw up.
dont discount the Boeings army of penny pinching board & accountants.
Maximus
Friends just arrived in Bali on yes you guessed it, a Boeing Max with batik air from Australia
Low and behold, touch down in Bali and yep, there all stuck in the aircraft as the main door to get of aircraft to exit was stuck, and required an engineer to free the door,
After 1/2 an hour, presto it’s open, WOW lucky no emergency,
What a piece of junk
There are three other doors that could have been used for deplaning. Was there an explanation why deplaning was not done through one of the other doors?
Was there an explanation why one of the other three doors were not used for deplaning?
@@user-ij7mp2nv2z no nothing just sit and wait
It’s parked with the airports main access tunnel ramp attached and possibly being a access issue going down stairs on to the tarmac and entering the airport a level below with no one ready to bring through
@@user-ij7mp2nv2z no just sit and wait
Who no’s if it was the dearming system that does all 4 doors
No idea
Fact is that - after spending 10 or so hours per week observing aerospace and airline issues for three decades - I would never again board a Boeing airplane if I could avoid it in any way. I would not do so because of (i) a deep punitive resentment against Boeing and (ii) a total mistrust in the FAA as the responsible regulatory body that had to oversee (and enforce) security practices at the manufacturer.
Stacks of facts with Maxx,.....imus.
Biggest mistake Boeing made was dumping Alan Mulally for some macdoug puke. The company has not been the same.
In Boeing We Trust.
Used to…
We trust to kill us to save a few bucks.
346 people did that. Ask them how it worked out for them.
No.
Make another video about how Airbus has plagiari...er, 'borrowed' a lot of Boeing designs, especially in the widebody sector.
Cost per seat mile makes both 777 aircraft more efficient than the A350 variants, but that does depend on load factors. Both 777s can also carry more cargo in their bellies, which also increases revenue during high load factors.
Passengers definitely love larger windows, which is what makes the 787 and A220 so appealing to people who fly in them.
I am not sure what is the point of this video content. It is rehashing what everybody knows. The main questions are, is a rehash airframe design with new wings and bigger engines for the B777-9, B777-8 and the B777-8F all with no operational history is going to be any better than the clean sheet airframe design A350-900, A350-900ulr, A350-1000 that already has operational history and already showing to airlines their operational flexibility for short to ultra long haul operations. The other question is, with increasing global geopolitical, trade, economic and health uncertainties and increasing disruptive and destructive effects of a warming planet will have on the future of commercial passenger aviation especially in regards Boeing's B777X Project. it will take a couple of global geopolitical, health and/or climate crisis/s to upset the fragile global commercial passenger air travel market. It seems that everybody has forgotten what the recent global health crisis did to commercial passenger aviation and that is mild to what is to come as the planet continues to warm.
Is this an AI voice?
No.
This plane is so delayed it's not even funny. No the 777X won't save Boeing. It's still not certified.
The way this is presented shows a clear bias.
No matter what you say I will never fly on a Boeing air craft. I value my life.
Thousands of Boeing planes fly all day every day without incident.
I bet you also refuse to play Russian Roulette … chicken😂
Your ''shot down b/t Russians'' - propaganda earns you my thumbs DOWN 4 this video & each&every subsequent. :_[ hYlkeW
And if the wing tip falls off…
Uh no, this was a time-critical launch, and Boeing screwed up the timing.
The case for the 777X is completely different than it was at launch, it could be a massive screw-up for the company. Unless they’re giving these things away at cost, there’s very little justification for buying one over a 350-1000, etc:
We know the industry always looks to some guy on YT Comments named EstorilEm for complete and total marketplace guidance. Stop giving away your awesome talents for free yo.