As Luke Smith already said, phones are designed to prevent you from doing what you want with them. They are built to keep the user away from actually owning their phone, and doing what you want with it. The mere fact that you have to go through the process of rooting your phone to gain some access to it tells enough
Of course you're not going to have access not I don't know the technical details But the way I consider it is I would rather stick to use my computer tower maybe having a backup as a phone in a farady cage bag
You're better off with a computer tower in my personal opinion let me know what you think and I'm sorry for my rambling it's probably a lot of bullshit that you don't have to read
You can't just say "more security" or "less security". It depends entirely on your use case - who you are, what you are using the device for, etc. etc. I do wish people that ***THINK*** they understand security would not give out these misleading messages. "Security" is a ***PROCESS***, it is not something that is automatically handed out to you in a specific quantity in a specific device. I've only used Lineage OS phones up to this point, I have a Pixel 4a and I may try Calyx on it. But I will not ***ROOT*** the device at any point because the moment I do that, I ***IMMEDIATELY*** reduce the security protection on that device - because root access is opened up both to me (probably unnecessarily so) and to any intruders onto the device. I get so annoyed with people who treat rooting a phone like it's a "fashion accessory" to brag to their friends on social media. There is no reason to root a phone - if you need to run security applications for white hat hacking or security testing, just get a laptop and stick Kali Linux on it.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 I would use what the glowies use, at least they used number stations and one time pads, which when used properly can't be traced and the message cannot be decrypted by anyone else
Librem 5 is the best in Mobile hardware with a hardware kill switch but forget it I mean I just wish people could use a laptop with cellular data that would be fucking cool instead of using like a phone all the time
Would love to see a step by step, since a lot of people, including me, that are less experienced can't really afford to fuck up with the root process and so we stay with the default most of the time. A step by step would be really great for some of us, less knowledgeable ppl out there. Amazing video, thank you ^^
Yes I'm feeling the exact same way I mean for me doing it on my computer tower is God damn easy But I don't know what I'm doing on my mobile and how would I be able to mess it up anyway how can that happen
When you are buying a new phone, take into account how active the community of that phone is, so that you don't have to deal with shady solutions and nonexistent support
the main problem with smartphones is its lack of patterns, in PCs is mostly easy to format and switch windows for linux even if you don't know exactly what you're doing because some tutorials can solve problems in multiple hardwares. But phones not, every phone has a different procedure, and most of this alternative software won't work in most phones, the ones that do are really buggy or is just an abandoned side project, Calyx OS is just specific for Pixel Phones, that aren't officially sold in my contry, so its one more layer of pain that I have to go through if I want to use it.
I think I'm gonna test this on my old phone, to see if I want to switch over to it full time on my current one. Thanks for letting me, and many others know about this!
@@marco31 I used Lineageos for a year without Gapps. It worked perfectly for me. There is an Open Source App for every Google App and I never missed anything. Notification works even better than with Calyxos although no Micro G is installed. But the installation if Lineageos is far more tricky than the installation of Calyxos. There is a huge amount of phone- models supported which is definately a big pro while you have to stick with the Pixel phones for Calyx. I liked Lineageos very much but changed to Calyx when the battery life of my old phone ended. Calyx is great but it has still more bugs than Lineageos. Both have its pros and cons and, in the end, I can recommend both.
The CalyxOS seems like a good idea to protect the users' privacy, and I'm into it. The problem is, it is still in its early stage, probably using outdated Android versions. It has to be attractive enough for freelance developers to dive in and start improving it. We all know that most excellent tect guys are working for companies like Google, Apple, ect., and there's been no sign that this is gonna change any time soon, at least in the name of better security and privacy.
I'm sorry but are you serious? Linux and Unix based systems are arguably more used commercially and are constantly being worked on and tweaked even if only a few people want whatever tweaks a dev is working on. I barely know anything and I don't consider myself a tech person at all. I just hate how annoying phones and computers are now so that's why I learned about Linux and use it on my laptop. There's millions of people working on it constantly for free and lots of huge companies that also use it for business (Redhat). Go look at Distrowatch or something lol
I am using SailfishOS as my daily driver. I have liked it a lot so far. It's mostly open source but it has some proprietary UI. Still pretty awesome and it has official support for sony Xperia 10 II phone.
I've been using Calyx as a daily driver for a little bit now and the only gripes I have with it are the camera app and navigation, but I haven't looked a ton into either. Other than after you get used to some things it's not really more difficult to use than standard android.
Software security and privacy is something everyone should learn if they value their privacy, (especially from big tech like the vid mentions. ) another consideration should be security at the hardware level. I love that the pixel is great for roms....but its googles own phone. And now they're even making their own SoC's? You better believe the pixel 6 and up will be phoneing home to google regardless of what ROM you have installed.
@William Stephens By that logic you shouldn't trust any proprietary hardware. Did you know that Intel has a backdoor into all cpus? It's called the Intel Management Engine and it allows them to do pretty much anything with your computer, regardless of what software you use. Including remote access. It can even be on while the rest of the computer is off. And the best part is it can't be disabled (unless you know the undocumented method to do so, which differs from motherboard to motherboard). At some point you just have to cut your losses. Unless you are being specifically targeted by some 3 letter agency, I seriously doubt anyone would go through that much effort to spy on you.
i've tested both GraphineOS and CalyxOS and i have to say the former is only really recommended to those who want a phone that JUST does basic tasks (not even notification work). I personally see CalyxOS as the new gold standard as it does everything you'd want a phone to do.
@@prototry then consider yourself in a favourable position. as for the rest of us, we'll still be bound to proprietary programs such as work apps, discord and IoT controllers.
LineageOS for microG also exists. It's basically Lineage patched to make microG work. Seems to be pretty much what CalyxOS does but it supports all devices that are supported by LineageOS.
@@eduardorpg3329 Some workaround is needed, which for whatever reason isn't supported by lineage, they probably have it on the lineageos for microg website.
@@eduardorpg3329 Not really. microG relies on SignatureSpoofing, a patch that has been rejected by the LineageOS team multiple times. There are tools that can apply that patch, like nanodroid, but that comes with a lot of additional bloatware in its default configuration. That can be changed, but it's just simpler to get an OS that is ready to go.
Calyxos vs Grapheneos and can they be compromised in the near future? I know they are both open source. Will three letter agencies specifically target them because most people who run them care about privacy and might be of interest to three letter agencies? How secure will they remain is the question.
If you want privacy from big tech there won't be any complications. If you want security from potential targeted attacks that's a whole other subject. That requires opsec, at least one private network, your own server, your own email service, and maybe even your own signal fork. And all of this has to be maintained. It's doable, but not easy.
@@immortalsatyr Pros: privacy, battery life, getting security updates for longer than stock Cons: waiting longer for Android feature updates, occasionally apps won't work with microG If you're balls deep in proprietary smart features and the Google Assistant and such, I'm sure not having all that baked into the OS would be a con. For me it's a pro.
@@notstarboard thanx for the reply. No Im not into smart@$$ features and other useless bloatware and such. Actually trying to walk away and stay away from g00gl3 eco, F@c3b00k eco. Searching for alternatives.
@@immortalsatyr No problem - sounds like it'd be a good fit for you then! I've been using it since last winter and have nothing but good things to say about it. The only minor app issue I've dealt with is that I can't leave feedback in RUclips and RUclips Music apps. Those apps work fine otherwise btw; it's just the feedback button that doesn't do anything. My plan going forward is to use my phone until it dies, maybe slap Lineage on it if Calyx stops supporting it before the hardware gives up, and then buy another Pixel A-series device specifically for CalyxOS. It was already good when I started using it and the devs have only been making it better.
Haven't researched it enough to have a valid opinion, but anything that puts the power and liberty back into the people's hands where it belongs , is always an improvement to me, in my humble opinion ❤️🌞
Ur meatballs made me cry, u needed to add a little panko and anise and mb idk, garlic powder. I would love to see more recipes, mb meatloaf or potato salad or scampi. Gonna try to get this running
How does CalyxOS differ mechanically from LineageOS (LineageOS for MicroG with MicroG specifically)? In other words, _aside_ from the software choices that are pre-installed, what's different about it?
@@asandax6 That's a good point, but I think Son Pham would have just meant that it _increases_ Android's security/privacy (while LineageOS just maintains it), because based on this video MO talks about the extra tools built into the system that help with it.
LineageOS supports a wide range of phones and the lower security can me circumvented with Magisk and its modules. CalyxOS is said to be more secure, but it only works on a smartphone that can only be purchased from Google.
For the hardware side, you can never go wrong with a Xiaomi device. They started through the MIUI Custom Rom, and have promised to stay true to their roots to always allow an unlocked bootloader. Even Ubuntu Touch is available for the Xiaomi Redmi Note 7
Wait I still don't get why I'd use this over LineageOS Sure it comes with a bunch of extra stuff out of the box but I can add all that to stock Lineage no problem. Also it officially supports like 12 devices.
Almost all custom roms are based on LineageOS. The only ones I know aren't based on it are Omnirom and Pixel Experience. Most other roms just add some cool customization features. However these "privacy" roms are just Lineage with some small features and pre installed apps.
After 4 years of messing with rooting phones I can safely say while most unofficial builds work as well as official builds, LineageOS official builds are extremely stable.
Lineage requires an unlocked bootloader to use, while Calyx lets you relock the bootloader. As a result, Calyx is more secure. You also can't add features like Seedvault backup to Lineage. It's more than just apps.
Just install Calyx if you don‘t need any additional security. You don‘t need lower your security in your phone with LineageOS when Calyx does literally the same thing
CalyxOS doesn't provide much over Lineageos with MicroG. Lineageos is widely supported on different devices and only the nextcloud backup and panic button features from calyx os are missing. Everything else you can easily install yourself
One word: SeedVault. It's built in-house and there is no replacement for that. Backups are the first thing I look for in any device and sadly no other ROM/OS has such a convenient method like Calyx.
One different thing as far as I know is CalyxOS locks bootloader after installation, LineageOS doesn't. Locked bootloader is better for security. The downside is many phones don't support relocking bootloader by user. That is the main reason why LineageOS supports a lot of device models by many manufacturers while CalyxOS supports only limited phone models.
@Catharsis Stock lineage has no gapps, you can either leave it as is, install gapps, or download the microg build that exists for all official lineageos devices download.lineage.microg.org/
A misconception is that you need to root your phone to install a custom ROM. Also most phones do not have support for Calyx OS. Instead use Lineage OS and don't install any google apps.
Been using Calix for over a year now. So far I am not missing a single feature compared to stock android. Its also very smooth and stable. Even my banking app runs on it.
What are your thoughts about other custom ROMs like Ressurection Remix, Corvus OS, Arrow OS, dotOS and others like it? They are all open source. They are made from Lineage OS or AOSP. I think some of them are not degoogled, but I am talking about the ones that are degoogled. In what ways is Calyx OS better than these?
Hey ! Such a great video, But I have a question, what if Google does the same thing as Intel / AMD and put an hardware spyware inside the google pixel ?
There's no "spy hardware" on Intel / AMD cpus. Modern CPUs are extremely complex to the point they need extra internal things to work...like a lower ring level MINIX server.
You're not wrong about Samsung making it stupidly difficult to do anything to Samsung devices. I went through hell trying to get Pop!_OS installed on my Samsung Galaxy Book (gonna be transferring fully to Linux later this year so I chose Pop!_OS because videogames and I wanted to get used to it on a secondary device before I took the plunge with my desktop rig), but I managed to pull it off and didn't feel like I'd lose anything important if it went horribly wrong because the AMOLED panel was already displaying symptoms of OLED burn-in (even though it was barely used LMAO). Thanks for the informative video, but yeah judging by the comments it looks like CalyxOS and its compatibility with Google apps is slowly being stopped because Google is trying to plug every leak it can just so it can track users. Probably just gonna go with GrapheneOS because it's tried and tested.
OnePlus's Oxygen OS has an option to flash a custom ROM in the settings menu. It's not even hidden in the developer options, it just a setting under system updates to flash any custom ROM. 👍
One day this guy uploads a picture of his plants, and the other day a review of a niche phone. I start to believe he'll just upload anything and that there's no theme xD
Pretty nice video, just a few things to correct/expand upon 1. If you want to get as away from Google's prying eyes as possible, use something like Ubuntu touch/sailfish or even post market; pure Linux based OS with none of Google's slimy hands 2. Most OEM's allow you to unlock the bootloader, only Samsung/Huawei don't and some memetek devices don't either, but IMO those are all devices you should never buy; Moto/Nokia/OnePlus/Xiaomi(usually)/Oppo(usually) and Asus all allow bootloader unlocks with at most two weeks of waiting, if you are unsure if the device you are looking at can be unlocked a quick google search usually clears that up (I.E some early BL/SW revisions of the S21 can be unlocked via exploit)
i got a oneplus 7 pro for like 300 bucks amazon renewed. had to buy the warp charger separately but oneplus was nice enough to let you unlock the bootloader on these. best phone i've ever had to date
So did you get a pixel and compare the 2 operating systems? I am looking into getting a new phone and wanting the best privacy. I am not a techy and see calyx is pre-installed...
Having seen more and more videos over the weeks I've been a subscriber on this channel, i'm starting to think that this channel is a honeypot itself. Idk, seems kinda logical. 'How to do this" "How to do that" "More privacy, More security" Call me paranoid, but this might just be something i'd hate it to be
The worst part of these Custom ROMs is that I have to use a specific model, like a Pixel phone. I bought a secondhand Pixel 4a 5G for GrapheneOS, but it’s been deprecated. I’m not gonna buy a phone without crucial, common-sense features (headphone jack) so newer Pixels are a no-go.
MicroG can still track you. You still have a unique identifier that google can track and log. The only way around this would be if that identifier was randomized each time it is needed.
I wanted to ask this these questions for quite a long time. “Does Android use GNU tool like Ubuntu or PopOS does?” “Should I could Android to be an extension of GNU+Linux?” “Should we be calling it Android or AOSP?
I have a Pixel 3a, about 12 months of ownership and I don't see a reason to choose off the 'a' line or upgrade anytime soon. At this point if it's not too old its probably stupid cheap, I bought it on a plan because it was 10$/mo for 24 months = $240 cdn dollars.
You must be on the same wave length as me because I've been looking at doing the exact same thing. I'm going to upgrade phones too and have decided on a Pixel 5 so I can use CalyxOS. My brother and I were having a discussion last night about data collection and how our privacy is being stripped away, and that I want to regain some control.
@Mental Outlaw You don't actually need to root your phone to install calyxOS or grapheneOS, While the extra tweaks are nice, you are increasing your attack surface. But Good Video though!
I love the irony that the most secure stock Android phones are the ones direct from Google, because it's only Google spying on you and not "Google + Company wishing they were Google"
@@wolfwoof2000 What is the metric of well maintained? How many devices are the supporting? Plus as far as the apps that's in there by default is available just a click away in other ROMs. Not a selling point IMO.
I'm also an app developer, so my current Pixel is stock to test commercial apps, I will get another Pixel that I will only turn on when I'm not home and when I don't have my other Pixel on (caged in tinfoil when I have it with me), so it cannot be referred to me, so when I use location services on my privacy phone (for directions), they cannot figure out who I am. This can only work when I get this mobile and a pre-activated SIM by cash. All good so far. But now I'd like to work on the go, my current cell plan has unlimited internet that I need for my work (hotspot). While my laptop will be safe and share nothing (Linux, dwm, secured Firefox, encrypted DNS, etc.), my stock cell phone will track me. So to prevent any association to my other privacy phone I can only activate both phones in crowded places, never activate my privacy phone at home, never go into the hotspot of my tracked phone with my privacy phone, so that I can finally have a phone with me in day2day situations that isn't tracking me and that not even the gov can know about its owner. Am I thinking right, am I approaching the situation right? What do you think?
Uhh am I tripping? CalyxOS assigns a unique signifier to you, isn't that basically the data they can use to then track you? Since you have a unique string attached to your activity?
Pity the pixels don't have expandable memory. Would be interested in your thoughts on the new Google chips that newer Pixels are supposedly coming out with.
I think the tradeoff of having to buy a google phone to degoogle is probably worth it, but i hate it honestly. Making alternative devices work with this should be a high priority in the privacy community
i got 2 important questions does Calyx match your devices capabilities if you're device supported AAC over Bluetooth before does the custom OS need the specific drivers to support same capabilities or does that not matter.? i can't go back to sbc Bluetooth code its AAC min would you say calyx will be able to include that? and is calyx universal os?
Sorry if this has been posted already, but you should not root your phone in conjunction with Calyx if you really want the phone to be as secure as you can.
As Luke Smith already said, phones are designed to prevent you from doing what you want with them. They are built to keep the user away from actually owning their phone, and doing what you want with it. The mere fact that you have to go through the process of rooting your phone to gain some access to it tells enough
And what can I say I mean there's all this building non-removable hardware iPhone is the worst example of it
But people get phones for the portability
I mean I would have at least a few phones
I would love to get librem 5 made in the USA
Of course you're not going to have access not I don't know the technical details
But the way I consider it is I would rather stick to use my computer tower maybe having a backup as a phone in a farady cage bag
You're better off with a computer tower in my personal opinion let me know what you think and I'm sorry for my rambling it's probably a lot of bullshit that you don't have to read
problem is that any girl that see you using a pinephone will run away
thank you mr outlaw, you're big brained for showing us this 🙏
hi Pink
Big brain status
1 year later, it’s veshremy, hi bro
Veshremy??
Ayo what you doin here bro
Graphene = More security, but more compromises
Calyx = Fewer compromises, but less security
pick your poison
using radios and one time pads
Does Graphene let you re-lock your bootloader after install like Calyx does?
You can't just say "more security" or "less security". It depends entirely on your use case - who you are, what you are using the device for, etc. etc.
I do wish people that ***THINK*** they understand security would not give out these misleading messages. "Security" is a ***PROCESS***, it is not something that is automatically handed out to you in a specific quantity in a specific device.
I've only used Lineage OS phones up to this point, I have a Pixel 4a and I may try Calyx on it. But I will not ***ROOT*** the device at any point because the moment I do that, I ***IMMEDIATELY*** reduce the security protection on that device - because root access is opened up both to me (probably unnecessarily so) and to any intruders onto the device.
I get so annoyed with people who treat rooting a phone like it's a "fashion accessory" to brag to their friends on social media. There is no reason to root a phone - if you need to run security applications for white hat hacking or security testing, just get a laptop and stick Kali Linux on it.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 I would use what the glowies use, at least they used number stations and one time pads, which when used properly can't be traced and the message cannot be decrypted by anyone else
@@mrsansiverius2083 Yes and mantains verified boot
I literally predicted this video yesterday after I heard you talking about FOSS de-Googled Android ROMs... tysm
yeah, I probably would have uploaded it yesterday if kdenlive didn't crash as often.
@@MentalOutlaw Shotcut has done a good job for me in the past, if Kdenlive is ever struggling for you.
I literally just shat my pants
@@seanld444 Flowblade is another cool option.
@@RomanMlejnek oh that does actually look pretty nice. Never heard of it. Gonna have to give it a spin. Thanks man.
Until Linux phones mature further, this is probably the best in mobile hardware imo
True
Librem 5 is the best in Mobile hardware with a hardware kill switch but forget it I mean I just wish people could use a laptop with cellular data that would be fucking cool instead of using like a phone all the time
Android is Linux
What about Fairphone..it's pretty much the only phone that you can repair yourself and which lets you replace the battery these days.
@@ph0sgene967 while yes it does use the Linux kernel, you know what I was talking about. The pinephone for example.
Would love to see a step by step, since a lot of people, including me, that are less experienced can't really afford to fuck up with the root process and so we stay with the default most of the time. A step by step would be really great for some of us, less knowledgeable ppl out there. Amazing video, thank you ^^
Yes I'm feeling the exact same way I mean for me doing it on my computer tower is God damn easy
But I don't know what I'm doing on my mobile and how would I be able to mess it up anyway how can that happen
So please do a step-by-step I need it I don't care what operating system
I
I just want to remove the blow dryer that always comes with Android
It is different for each cell phone, you must follow specific instructions to not brick the device
When you are buying a new phone, take into account how active the community of that phone is, so that you don't have to deal with shady solutions and nonexistent support
This channel is a blessing for newbies to privacy such as me. Thanks for the great information that you're sharing!
the main problem with smartphones is its lack of patterns, in PCs is mostly easy to format and switch windows for linux even if you don't know exactly what you're doing because some tutorials can solve problems in multiple hardwares. But phones not, every phone has a different procedure, and most of this alternative software won't work in most phones, the ones that do are really buggy or is just an abandoned side project, Calyx OS is just specific for Pixel Phones, that aren't officially sold in my contry, so its one more layer of pain that I have to go through if I want to use it.
Yeah qualcomm bootloader wont let to load windows arm64 even if it's supported
This, i am curious about ubuntu phones tho
I like pixel phones but they aren't sold in my country :/
I'd love to see a *based* video about best phones for custom ROM, with different price ranges, available OS's, etc
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@@daao441 bruh it's expensive for these specs
@@georgeousthegorgeous price for freedom
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle Freedom of what? I'm ok if they spy on me because this won't have any negative consequences - I'm not ceo or famous man.
@@georgeousthegorgeous freedom from beig spied on obviously are you that narrow-minded you can't even think other people might not like that?
I think I'm gonna test this on my old phone, to see if I want to switch over to it full time on my current one.
Thanks for letting me, and many others know about this!
I would probably prefer to use graphene os for increased security but calyx os is better for the average person
Thank You! Finally, some light on GrapheneOS
@@marco31 lineage without gapps is comparable to grapheneOS from a usability perspective, but without the increased hardening from grapheneOS.
@@marco31 I used Lineageos for a year without Gapps. It worked perfectly for me. There is an Open Source App for every Google App and I never missed anything. Notification works even better than with Calyxos although no Micro G is installed. But the installation if Lineageos is far more tricky than the installation of Calyxos. There is a huge amount of phone- models supported which is definately a big pro while you have to stick with the Pixel phones for Calyx. I liked Lineageos very much but changed to Calyx when the battery life of my old phone ended. Calyx is great but it has still more bugs than Lineageos. Both have its pros and cons and, in the end, I can recommend both.
I have no idea what any of this is
@@therandomdickhead5744 they are talking about gambling and whores.
The CalyxOS seems like a good idea to protect the users' privacy, and I'm into it. The problem is, it is still in its early stage, probably using outdated Android versions. It has to be attractive enough for freelance developers to dive in and start improving it.
We all know that most excellent tect guys are working for companies like Google, Apple, ect., and there's been no sign that this is gonna change any time soon, at least in the name of better security and privacy.
I'm sorry but are you serious? Linux and Unix based systems are arguably more used commercially and are constantly being worked on and tweaked even if only a few people want whatever tweaks a dev is working on. I barely know anything and I don't consider myself a tech person at all. I just hate how annoying phones and computers are now so that's why I learned about Linux and use it on my laptop. There's millions of people working on it constantly for free and lots of huge companies that also use it for business (Redhat). Go look at Distrowatch or something lol
You miss a big part buddy... MicroG can be installed on other stock platforms
@@xephael3485 I probably missed something here, but what does MicroG have anything to do with the topic?
I am using SailfishOS as my daily driver. I have liked it a lot so far. It's mostly open source but it has some proprietary UI. Still pretty awesome and it has official support for sony Xperia 10 II phone.
It looks like the most polished thing out there, only concern is whether it will work with VoLTE in the US once 3G is shut down...
Vivaldi but an OS, sailfish os looks very good tho
Really appreciate the detail of explicitly mentioning whether free as in price or as in freedom is meant.
Keep up the good work!
i used to LOVE installing custom roms when i was a kid. such good memories.
I've been using Calyx as a daily driver for a little bit now and the only gripes I have with it are the camera app and navigation, but I haven't looked a ton into either. Other than after you get used to some things it's not really more difficult to use than standard android.
is the camera app just terrible or?
could you make a tutorial for setting it up please?
@fort6564 You have to use the Google camera app with micro G, otherwise the pictures taken look like shit
Software security and privacy is something everyone should learn if they value their privacy, (especially from big tech like the vid mentions. ) another consideration should be security at the hardware level. I love that the pixel is great for roms....but its googles own phone. And now they're even making their own SoC's? You better believe the pixel 6 and up will be phoneing home to google regardless of what ROM you have installed.
they aready do. people be as naive as saying they are all about privacy while using a google made phone
@William Stephens By that logic you shouldn't trust any proprietary hardware. Did you know that Intel has a backdoor into all cpus? It's called the Intel Management Engine and it allows them to do pretty much anything with your computer, regardless of what software you use. Including remote access. It can even be on while the rest of the computer is off. And the best part is it can't be disabled (unless you know the undocumented method to do so, which differs from motherboard to motherboard).
At some point you just have to cut your losses. Unless you are being specifically targeted by some 3 letter agency, I seriously doubt anyone would go through that much effort to spy on you.
This is exactly my consideration. Do you have any suggestions? This custom ROM Pixel situation feels like a honeypot to me.
@@jaredcruz7768 we need open hardware companies with the same philosophy as FOSS. I'd like to start one someday. Unfortunately its tough to compete.
i've tested both GraphineOS and CalyxOS and i have to say the former is only really recommended to those who want a phone that JUST does basic tasks (not even notification work). I personally see CalyxOS as the new gold standard as it does everything you'd want a phone to do.
if you use signal it has to run in the background in order to get notifications, i have fully degoogled android (no microg) and i do get notifications
@@definitelynotclickbait8283 oh huh, i gotta check that out
That's exactly what I want a phone to do: just surfing the web and calling people.
@@prototry then consider yourself in a favourable position. as for the rest of us, we'll still be bound to proprietary programs such as work apps, discord and IoT controllers.
LineageOS for microG also exists. It's basically Lineage patched to make microG work. Seems to be pretty much what CalyxOS does but it supports all devices that are supported by LineageOS.
Yeah, you don't really get very good specs with pixel phones, so I could see a oneplus with that version of lineage to be better for some people
Btw, why doesn't lineage "just work" with microg in the first place? I mean when you just sideload the app
@@eduardorpg3329 Some workaround is needed, which for whatever reason isn't supported by lineage, they probably have it on the lineageos for microg website.
@@eduardorpg3329 It requires signature spoofing, which is disabled in lineageos builds in the name of security
@@eduardorpg3329 Not really. microG relies on SignatureSpoofing, a patch that has been rejected by the LineageOS team multiple times. There are tools that can apply that patch, like nanodroid, but that comes with a lot of additional bloatware in its default configuration. That can be changed, but it's just simpler to get an OS that is ready to go.
Word "freedom" near a U.S.A. flag is a red flag.
Calyxos vs Grapheneos and can they be compromised in the near future? I know they are both open source. Will three letter agencies specifically target them because most people who run them care about privacy and might be of interest to three letter agencies? How secure will they remain is the question.
hard to say. security is a process, not a product.
If you want privacy from big tech there won't be any complications. If you want security from potential targeted attacks that's a whole other subject. That requires opsec, at least one private network, your own server, your own email service, and maybe even your own signal fork. And all of this has to be maintained. It's doable, but not easy.
Ya love to see it.
Congrats on 100K by the way. You're currently at 99.9K, but you'll probably be there by the time you read this.
As a conservative, I agree with your opinion of the "Freedom" Phone.
What do you mean by agree? How can you not agree with facts?
@@Konyad Well people disagree on what is a fact, so I don't really understand your point.
I've been using Calyx for about 6 months now, not turning back 👍
pros and cons, please...
@@immortalsatyr Pros: privacy, battery life, getting security updates for longer than stock
Cons: waiting longer for Android feature updates, occasionally apps won't work with microG
If you're balls deep in proprietary smart features and the Google Assistant and such, I'm sure not having all that baked into the OS would be a con. For me it's a pro.
@@notstarboard thanx for the reply. No Im not into smart@$$ features and other useless bloatware and such. Actually trying to walk away and stay away from g00gl3 eco, F@c3b00k eco. Searching for alternatives.
@@immortalsatyr No problem - sounds like it'd be a good fit for you then! I've been using it since last winter and have nothing but good things to say about it. The only minor app issue I've dealt with is that I can't leave feedback in RUclips and RUclips Music apps. Those apps work fine otherwise btw; it's just the feedback button that doesn't do anything.
My plan going forward is to use my phone until it dies, maybe slap Lineage on it if Calyx stops supporting it before the hardware gives up, and then buy another Pixel A-series device specifically for CalyxOS. It was already good when I started using it and the devs have only been making it better.
@@notstarboard Do AI text selection and adaptive battery still work? Please i want to use it.
Haven't researched it enough to have a valid opinion, but anything that puts the power and liberty back into the people's hands where it belongs , is always an improvement to me, in my humble opinion ❤️🌞
Ur meatballs made me cry, u needed to add a little panko and anise and mb idk, garlic powder. I would love to see more recipes, mb meatloaf or potato salad or scampi. Gonna try to get this running
good
good
Mmm food videos
0:27 Zuckerberg absolutely terrifies me in that image
almost 100K subscribers, congratulations!
Could you take a look at Windows 10 Ameliorated? I was thinking of switching to this OS for gaming while I wait for more games to support Linux
Thank you so much! Just what I needed to get started. I'll check out the more complex options as I can.
How does CalyxOS differ mechanically from LineageOS (LineageOS for MicroG with MicroG specifically)? In other words, _aside_ from the software choices that are pre-installed, what's different about it?
One thing is that CalyxOS maintains the android security, while lineageOS decreases the security
@@sohn7767 How does Lineage decrease the Security? It's literally full Android.
@@asandax6 That's a good point, but I think Son Pham would have just meant that it _increases_ Android's security/privacy (while LineageOS just maintains it), because based on this video MO talks about the extra tools built into the system that help with it.
LineageOS supports a wide range of phones and the lower security can me circumvented with Magisk and its modules. CalyxOS is said to be more secure, but it only works on a smartphone that can only be purchased from Google.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino
privacy***** please learn the difference of phone security, and privacy from Google services.... It's fucking important
For the hardware side, you can never go wrong with a Xiaomi device. They started through the MIUI Custom Rom, and have promised to stay true to their roots to always allow an unlocked bootloader.
Even Ubuntu Touch is available for the Xiaomi Redmi Note 7
@Sorelian Guy yep
Wait I still don't get why I'd use this over LineageOS
Sure it comes with a bunch of extra stuff out of the box but I can add all that to stock Lineage no problem.
Also it officially supports like 12 devices.
Worse yet, some features are literally stolen from Lineage
This ROM is just a waste of time if you already have Lineage and microG
Almost all custom roms are based on LineageOS. The only ones I know aren't based on it are Omnirom and Pixel Experience.
Most other roms just add some cool customization features.
However these "privacy" roms are just Lineage with some small features and pre installed apps.
After 4 years of messing with rooting phones I can safely say while most unofficial builds work as well as official builds, LineageOS official builds are extremely stable.
Lineage requires an unlocked bootloader to use, while Calyx lets you relock the bootloader. As a result, Calyx is more secure.
You also can't add features like Seedvault backup to Lineage. It's more than just apps.
@@notstarboard relocking the bootloader is just asking for bricking
Very interesting. I never knew about many of those softwares. They’ll all be very useful. Thank you!
Richard Stallman in Lain cosplay holding the Freedom Paprika is my spirit animal.
Hey almost 100k congrats man been here since 20k
the biggest problem with those custom roms is that some bank and wallet apps doesn't work. because of lack of gapps auth and environment
I actually have a Pixel phone - and now I'm seriously thinking about installing CalyxOS on it.
I definitely recommend it 👌
Graphene is the way
Do it
Go with either Graphene or LineageOS for microG.
This ROM is a meme
Just install Calyx if you don‘t need any additional security. You don‘t need lower your security in your phone with LineageOS when Calyx does literally the same thing
Hmm definitely interested in compiling this for OnePlus 8 Pro.
congrats on getting to 100k!
greatest youtuber in existence
CalyxOS doesn't provide much over Lineageos with MicroG. Lineageos is widely supported on different devices and only the nextcloud backup and panic button features from calyx os are missing. Everything else you can easily install yourself
One word: SeedVault. It's built in-house and there is no replacement for that. Backups are the first thing I look for in any device and sadly no other ROM/OS has such a convenient method like Calyx.
One different thing as far as I know is CalyxOS locks bootloader after installation, LineageOS doesn't. Locked bootloader is better for security. The downside is many phones don't support relocking bootloader by user. That is the main reason why LineageOS supports a lot of device models by many manufacturers while CalyxOS supports only limited phone models.
I was literally going to send you an email suggestion today to make a video about this!
thoughts on kalix vs lineage+microg?
@Catharsis Stock lineage has no gapps, you can either leave it as is, install gapps, or download the microg build that exists for all official lineageos devices
download.lineage.microg.org/
Thoughts: Please go with the latter.
You can ask any questions about why, I'll try to answer them
Congrats for 100K subs!
A misconception is that you need to root your phone to install a custom ROM.
Also most phones do not have support for Calyx OS. Instead use Lineage OS and don't install any google apps.
You still have to root to lineage
@@romsg2255 no you do not have to root to install a custom ROM.
I'm really waiting for those reviews!
Hey, congratulations on getting 100,000 consoomers!
Been using Calix for over a year now. So far I am not missing a single feature compared to stock android. Its also very smooth and stable. Even my banking app runs on it.
A shame google doesn't sell the pixel line here in Brasil. I'll just have to stick to my motog4 with lineageOS.
É foda maluco
tem no mercado livre, só não sei se funciona
Really interesting to hear your opinion about GrapheneOS
What are your thoughts about other custom ROMs like Ressurection Remix, Corvus OS, Arrow OS, dotOS and others like it?
They are all open source. They are made from Lineage OS or AOSP.
I think some of them are not degoogled, but I am talking about the ones that are degoogled.
In what ways is Calyx OS better than these?
sounds awesome. looking to hear more about your expirience
What about Replicant :(？
As someone who hates google and using ios I think it’s quite nice stock android replacement
But only time will tell if it’s gonna survive
Hey !
Such a great video,
But I have a question, what if Google does the same thing as Intel / AMD and put an hardware spyware inside the google pixel ?
There's no "spy hardware" on Intel / AMD cpus. Modern CPUs are extremely complex to the point they need extra internal things to work...like a lower ring level MINIX server.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino have you watched the video of SomeOrdinaryGamer on Intel ME?
@@rqndomhax Gamers Nexus.
Love it 😊 always smiling whe you upload
You're not wrong about Samsung making it stupidly difficult to do anything to Samsung devices. I went through hell trying to get Pop!_OS installed on my Samsung Galaxy Book (gonna be transferring fully to Linux later this year so I chose Pop!_OS because videogames and I wanted to get used to it on a secondary device before I took the plunge with my desktop rig), but I managed to pull it off and didn't feel like I'd lose anything important if it went horribly wrong because the AMOLED panel was already displaying symptoms of OLED burn-in (even though it was barely used LMAO).
Thanks for the informative video, but yeah judging by the comments it looks like CalyxOS and its compatibility with Google apps is slowly being stopped because Google is trying to plug every leak it can just so it can track users. Probably just gonna go with GrapheneOS because it's tried and tested.
Good video Mental outlaw, I will definitely consider doing this myself when I get time.
OnePlus's Oxygen OS has an option to flash a custom ROM in the settings menu. It's not even hidden in the developer options, it just a setting under system updates to flash any custom ROM. 👍
If you mean the local upgrade option, that only works for oos updates downloaded onto somewhere on your phone.
@@bulletpunch9317 oh sorry my bad
One day this guy uploads a picture of his plants, and the other day a review of a niche phone.
I start to believe he'll just upload anything and that there's no theme xD
Thoughts on /e/, if any? (It's what I'm currently running.)
No reason to visit the hellholes of 4chan/reddit
Using a custom build of /e/ os myself, real good
@@smpmuzpid well played.
@@leonardo9259 you don't belong here then lmao
@@feedandseed5632 not leaving
looking forward to your next instalment ....thanks for your educational and entertaining coverage of this
I am proud because actually I am using bootloader unlocked device with my own custom rom on it to watch this video.
almost at 100k! soon-to-be congratulations
Pretty nice video, just a few things to correct/expand upon
1. If you want to get as away from Google's prying eyes as possible, use something like Ubuntu touch/sailfish or even post market; pure Linux based OS with none of Google's slimy hands
2. Most OEM's allow you to unlock the bootloader, only Samsung/Huawei don't and some memetek devices don't either, but IMO those are all devices you should never buy; Moto/Nokia/OnePlus/Xiaomi(usually)/Oppo(usually) and Asus all allow bootloader unlocks with at most two weeks of waiting, if you are unsure if the device you are looking at can be unlocked a quick google search usually clears that up (I.E some early BL/SW revisions of the S21 can be unlocked via exploit)
I dont know about the new Samsung phones but the olders like the S7 is possible to unlock
Can you do a video comparing grapheneOS and calyxOS? I'd love a comparison of micro-G and grapheneOS's built-in GSF installation feature.
What is the benefit of using CalyxOS instead of lineageOS with microG ?
Considering it is based on LineageOS none
LineageOS is still the best overall custom rom
CalyxOS re-locks the bootloader after installation, LineageOS doesn't.
i got a oneplus 7 pro for like 300 bucks amazon renewed. had to buy the warp charger separately but oneplus was nice enough to let you unlock the bootloader on these. best phone i've ever had to date
I just want an OS that doesn't take up 20 fucking gigs
1:31 freedom phone is literally android btw
also, banger video
I always enjoy watching videos like this that are just very, almost anarchist I suppose is all I can say.
So did you get a pixel and compare the 2 operating systems? I am looking into getting a new phone and wanting the best privacy. I am not a techy and see calyx is pre-installed...
Just wait until you can buy one of the pixal budget lineups, they cost less money and have a headphone jack
If the phone was previously connected to you, then Google will already have your IMEI, and will still be able to track you.
Buy the freedom phone at 100k
Lol
I'd probably get more satisfaction from just burning $500
Having seen more and more videos over the weeks I've been a subscriber on this channel,
i'm starting to think that this channel is a honeypot itself. Idk, seems kinda logical.
'How to do this" "How to do that" "More privacy, More security"
Call me paranoid, but this might just be something i'd hate it to be
I too suspect this channel is a glowie mouthpiece
Mrwhosetheboss?
The worst part of these Custom ROMs is that I have to use a specific model, like a Pixel phone.
I bought a secondhand Pixel 4a 5G for GrapheneOS, but it’s been deprecated. I’m not gonna buy a phone without crucial, common-sense features (headphone jack) so newer Pixels are a no-go.
Congrats on the 100k keep up the good work 💪
MicroG can still track you. You still have a unique identifier that google can track and log. The only way around this would be if that identifier was randomized each time it is needed.
I wanted to ask this these questions for quite a long time.
“Does Android use GNU tool like Ubuntu or PopOS does?”
“Should I could Android to be an extension of GNU+Linux?”
“Should we be calling it Android or AOSP?
Android is not GNU+Linux. Android is the Linux kernel running JVM on top.
congratz on almost 100k subs
I have a Pixel 3a, about 12 months of ownership and I don't see a reason to choose off the 'a' line or upgrade anytime soon. At this point if it's not too old its probably stupid cheap, I bought it on a plan because it was 10$/mo for 24 months = $240 cdn dollars.
You must be on the same wave length as me because I've been looking at doing the exact same thing. I'm going to upgrade phones too and have decided on a Pixel 5 so I can use CalyxOS. My brother and I were having a discussion last night about data collection and how our privacy is being stripped away, and that I want to regain some control.
Thoughts on Havoc OS? I consider using it, because Lineage and Calyx don't officially support my phone (a flagship Samsung phone: S8+).
Thanks for this video! Great content 💯👍
@Mental Outlaw You don't actually need to root your phone to install calyxOS or grapheneOS, While the extra tweaks are nice, you are increasing your attack surface. But Good Video though!
ayeee road to 100k lets gooo
Calyxos is also supported on the xiaomi mi a2(not for long anymore sadly) but its very usable and a used mi a2 is about 90€
I love the irony that the most secure stock Android phones are the ones direct from Google, because it's only Google spying on you and not "Google + Company wishing they were Google"
How is this any different from LineageOS, AOSP and it's branches, crDroid etc ROMs ?
re-locked bootloader, well maintained with more security updates (it differs to one device to another on Lineage, AOSP... )
@@wolfwoof2000 What is the metric of well maintained? How many devices are the supporting? Plus as far as the apps that's in there by default is available just a click away in other ROMs. Not a selling point IMO.
Sony xperia have an easily unlockable bootloader and they have one of the most pixel like android experiences
I'm also an app developer, so my current Pixel is stock to test commercial apps, I will get another Pixel that I will only turn on when I'm not home and when I don't have my other Pixel on (caged in tinfoil when I have it with me), so it cannot be referred to me, so when I use location services on my privacy phone (for directions), they cannot figure out who I am. This can only work when I get this mobile and a pre-activated SIM by cash. All good so far. But now I'd like to work on the go, my current cell plan has unlimited internet that I need for my work (hotspot). While my laptop will be safe and share nothing (Linux, dwm, secured Firefox, encrypted DNS, etc.), my stock cell phone will track me. So to prevent any association to my other privacy phone I can only activate both phones in crowded places, never activate my privacy phone at home, never go into the hotspot of my tracked phone with my privacy phone, so that I can finally have a phone with me in day2day situations that isn't tracking me and that not even the gov can know about its owner. Am I thinking right, am I approaching the situation right? What do you think?
Uhh am I tripping? CalyxOS assigns a unique signifier to you, isn't that basically the data they can use to then track you? Since you have a unique string attached to your activity?
Can you provide the source for that information?
Cant wait to flash this bad boy😎😎😎
Pity the pixels don't have expandable memory.
Would be interested in your thoughts on the new Google chips that newer Pixels are supposedly coming out with.
I think the tradeoff of having to buy a google phone to degoogle is probably worth it, but i hate it honestly. Making alternative devices work with this should be a high priority in the privacy community
I have my phone for 7 years in daily use now and was waiting for exactly this.
i got 2 important questions does Calyx match your devices capabilities if you're device supported AAC over Bluetooth before does the custom OS need the specific drivers to support same capabilities or does that not matter.? i can't go back to sbc Bluetooth code its AAC min would you say calyx will be able to include that? and is calyx universal os?
Sorry if this has been posted already, but you should not root your phone in conjunction with Calyx if you really want the phone to be as secure as you can.