Why I no longer use Custom Android ROMs
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I just found out that the Pixel Experience project has been shut down. This is incredibly sad as I've used that ROM on the phone you see in the video for years :(
pixel experience was useless anyway
just flash the pixelify module on any rom
same thing
Yea this is like the dark ages of ROMs
@@AliElwasief Combine it with Google continuously tinkering safetynet to make it fail on custom ROMs
I use Project Elixir and it's pretty good after Pixel Experience got shut down
@niveZz- There is pixelos too and crdroid can do similar features
GrapheneOS has none of these issues. It actually gets updated faster than stock pixel because it pulls directly from AOSP!
Graphene is bare as droid from 2000...For majority of people useless
the roms these days get OTA updates just like OEMs. so what you said in the video is false.
yeah
Yes . There are soo many good roms like . Lineage os , Evolution x , project elixer, voltage os , etc
Maybe he not geek at this point
@@ChachaChichundarAmericans don't know any of this . Custom roms are "dead" only in the US.
Yeah Exactly...
Yes, but you forgot to mention that Google Wallet and NFC and banking apps is a pain in the butt, yeah it's bypassable but very complicated..
Thanks for mentioning that I've heard people having issues with that
Uhh ... I have a rooted lineage os S9 and with a few magisk modules it work perfectly and never broke for 1yrs now (bypass techniques are quite stable)
@@spectralo how good is it rooted? i have a lineage s9 rn but not rooted
it's not complicated, 1 magisk module and fp changer if module doesn't work
uhh no? if you dont root your phone you shouldnt have any of those problems. if you do root your phone, just install play intergrity fix in magisk. takes at most a minute to do it.
its crazy how most complains towards custom roms stem from being uneducated about them.
I will always use a custom rom to get the latest software updates on my phone because unlike most people i only replace my phone when its unusable and for me a custom rom made my Samsung galaxy A5 2017 faster and the last stock update on it was android 8 and with a custom rom i could get android 14 with 0 bloatware
Me too
I use crdroid 7 in my galaxy a5 2017 and works without problems
same imma put android 13 on a mi 9t pro /k20 pro
Same like im running lineage OS too on my galaxy note 8, since it's oem android got it's last update in 2022....which is too outdated and unsecure!!!
This is my plan, but it will be a project and I am still practicing the custom rom-ing process. Has it been difficult to go from one version of android to another like upgrading from 13 to 14? Is there an easy way to transfer all your data if you have to do a clean install or does it usually not wipe your data?
8:25 that is the main issue for a lot of us - we grew old, and settle for stuff that's good enough that lets us do what we need, or have enough money to buy new things we want.
I used to be a rooting and Stock Android fan, now I just settle with a Samsung A-series phone and be done with it.
Sad but true
This. I used to customize everything with my computer or phone when I was younger. Now I just leave it all at default. Change stuff a bit from time to time but nothing major. It becomes to much of hassle to customize your device especially when it’s time to replace it. That’s what i appreciate about iphones, it’s decent looking, no need for major customization. And more importantly continuity and familiarity.
@@neilfordan the good thing is that modern devices are generally better about keeping and exporting your settings and preferences. Outside of banking and encrypted chat backups, didn't even need to re-login for most stuff when I switched from A14 to A55. On the other side, Linux's xdg folders make it so easy to backup and restore most of your stuff, be it manually, with an app, or with chezmoi or nix home-manager. It's really is just Windows that remains annoying for me.
the big tech won the war
For me
I'm just old enough to be satisfied of what i have in my phone, but during my days of cfw geek it's wild
2014-15 was the best time for it. Nowadays, manufacturers have locked down their hardware so far down. I see it as a form of tyranny. If you try these things now, you have a higher chance of not getting it done, and highly risk it getting bricked even if you follow exact instructions
This is the real reason, we didn't "grow out of it" it was stolen from us
I was a flashholic. Can't even name those rom. It all started from my Samsung galaxy tab 2 later OG Oneplus one. I used to change roms almost every 2 days. I had a free time then. Now I have job and can't put so much effort I backup, restore, fixing bugs. Also I'm from India and we depend on online payments and root is big nono for them. Yes I can do safety check but where's the time. I guess I'm grown. Do I miss those days? Yes, absolutely. I wish I can go back and get those free time to tinkering
Wait do UPI apps have a problem with rooted devices?
@@preyaskhuntia2190yes
Nope.. UPI apps work with no issues if you configure it correctly,
Or better, many roms/kernels now come with KSU support, which is by far the closest to root permission on Linux, and raise no issues, and 0 setup needed.
@@SreejithKSGupta Thing is, back then phones weren't that integrated to our everyday lives. So tinkering with a daily driver didn't affect much. Now the smartphone is literally an extension of you, so tinkering, even if it works has a larger risk involved.
If you have a spare phone to try all this, then yes it is still worth it, but not that much in a daily driver.
Is it safe to use banking apps on acustom rom...can custom rom steal banking data.
as a lineage os user i cant agree with u. i own poco f3 and miui i hate to use. so i use Los with microg . saves battery and more privacy. and about rooting its not like before. Ksu and apatch has made rooting so comfortable and easy without any issues.
exactly!
Only reason why im using custom roms is when the OEM rom stops being supported while other roms like project elixir updates it to A14 from A11
iodéOS:
-> can combine their adblocker with a VPN
-> can uninstall preinstalled apps
-> based on Android 14
-> degoogled
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2:21 I mean, you could just use Universal Android Debloater. Or even just manually get rid of it using ADB
Me personally, I just used customroms so I could get the latest Android version.
I used a OneUI port on my Note 9 so I don't lose the stock camera quality, and everything else that is good about OneUI.
Honestly, I kinda miss the Bixby button. Because you could mod it into a pause and play button
But I wish OneUI had that feature where the thing you're watching will pause if you lower the volume to zero
@@UltraCenterHQthere might be some apps that do that, someone must have though they need that, I'll look if u can find any tomorrow
@@pontiflexmortis I feel that feature would need a whole magiskmodule to work
I have a custom rom on my readmi 9a,
mainly to speed up and also update android to 13
Do you mean speed up?
@@John-Smith02 yeah, my bad
ah i used that phone, it's super slow. i hope that custom rom helps
@@Rimon1957 it helps, still can be laggy in more heavy apps like snapchat and also its very slow when system is loading
security patches are one of the reasons i flash custom roms
usually they get updated monthly while oems like xiaomi take way longer
purpose of security patches?
@@stoosee patching vulnerabilities in the android os
for example the webp zero day exploit was quite a big one
i mainly use pixels only to run CalyxOS due to it using microG instead of the Google play services for more privacy and still a functional phone, the bootloader is re-lockable and also does it pass safetynet with Calyx, also does it get the pixel security updates.
I used to use Android Kitkat custom rom on my Galaxy S duos back in the day, which was running Touchwiz based on Android 4.2. It's waaay smoother and snappier than the official rom.
I had a custom rom on my early Sony phones, then LG g4, g6 and my current G8 is stock. I dont wanna go through the hassle again for a custom Rom to crash once a week like the previous phones.
The thing with holding the volume key to skip songs is available on some OEMs. On One Ui it is customisable with Goodlock
The legendary k20 pro.
I had the k20 model myself from which i shifted to nothing phone 2 bhut i still miss those features
6:06 idk if that was your case and if that's a feature from Android or Samsung, (i own a samsung) there is an option that periodically reboots the phone for optimization purposes (so it says), which for me were a pain cause the reboots were happening all the time while i was connected with hotspot to just get disconnected and have to wait like an idiot for it to reboot.
I had no clue that this option existed and though that maybe my phone was crashing for no reason cause sure thing it wasn't overheating
Can your phone alongwith the custom rom bypass the android limitation wherein Android downsamples audio quality to it's native sampling ratio??
Great video. I rommed my Motorola G Stylus 2020 with LineageOS as the stock OS was only able to get Android 11. I love the background on the phone at 5:00, do you have it uploaded somewhere? Thanks!
Why is that after his video pixel experience custom rom got shutdown
On my case, xiaomi Added many of the functions that I wanted from roms, like shortcuts with buttons, more options on the camera and so on.
Debloating the stock ROM on Android is quite easy with ADB commands, so I think debloating shouldn't really be the main reason why are going through all that "hassle" of flashing custom ROM unless you want to degoogle you phone and use it without google services.
but debloating services can have serious impact on your device though thats why custom rom exist with bare minmum apps preinstalled
Debloating using adb in my experience doesn't completely remove the apps from your device ... When u factory reset dey all come back
also uninstalling (or disabling except if you mount system RW and manually delete the folder)
it's very easy with a single adb command
alternativly just use universal android debloater
exactly!!! i use this method as well and its really easy, instead of rooting your phone and install a whole os.
The reason i don't use cusrom anymore is because mostly cusroms are so few, especially on certain phone. I used Samsung s21 fe there are so few of roms, then some brand just don't share their source code
what launcher and icon pack are you using?
I'm using a Moto G1 running Android 10 and that phone still rocks. Kinda crazy really how fluidy it is. And I guess that is the only time that it makes sense; to revive old phones that won't get updates anymore. Who knows 7 years from now I try something on my S20FE. But for now even my Moto G5S is still too new to be really worth it the possible amount of bugs and issues.
Although I haven't changed anything on my primary phone, I did however install pixel OS on my old phone from 2016. It has Android 14 with January security patch while my primary is on Android 12 march 23 security patch
Ive been using a custom rom for a while on my old redmi 8 and its been great. Banking problems can be fixed easily with a magisk module.
5:43 That feature comes built in with OneUI.
But you still complained about wanting to have a "cleaner" app drawer.
Is it safe to use banking apps on acustom rom...can custom rom steal banking data?
Didn't you know that you can simply uninstall the pre-installed apps that you can't seem to uninstall with ADB? The device doesn't need to be rooted, you just need to connect it to the computer, have USB debugging enabled, go into the adb shell and run e.g. "pm uninstall --user 0 com.android.chrome" (this would uninstall Chrome but it works for all apps).
They are not completely uninstalled tho.
They are just being removed from the app drawer but they still take up space. It’s essentially the same as if you‘d disable an app.
After a phone reset those "uninstalled" apps are back.
Not if you delete their data @@20NBA01
Am on custom rom now, there's alot point which are not issues on custom roms anymore
1 build in updater is now available on roms for seamless update when updating
2 you can now spoof yout device to get banking apps working
3 bugs are now fixed based on security patch,all you have to do is report the bug and it gets fix before or when the next security patch is released
4 custom rom are now stable for daily use,theres even depth wallpaper and lock screen widget om custom roms now yet they are still stable
Thanks bro for yiur opinion on custom roms and talking about them in general, people are also usung custom roms on poxel 7 or higher now, with mod gcams also
Stock is fiiiine but having software updates several years after the manufacturer stops supporting it is very nice. Honestly updating is not a problem, if you're running an officially supported rom and some people do have OTAs in their roms even if they are not official. On my Oneplus 7 pro, I press update in settings, and then go into Magisk and press "flash to second slot" to not lose root, restart and its updated. One more step than stock but I won't need to buy a new phone to get Android 15 when it comes out. Also with root, I can automatically backup my entire app data to google drive with Swift backup, so now I dont have to worry if I lose my phone or it breaks, which isnt going to happen every day but it did happen once when my essential ph1 got shattered to bits and it was so nice to just restore my backup when i got my oneplus 7. I didnt have to login to all my apps again and I had all my data right there.
Such videos always come out and these have been coming out for over a decade even when roms were doing great. Nothing new, people will always complain. Custom roms are important, the owner of the device needs to have the ability to change the OS, it is fine to not like it, but never discourage the idea. Promote roms, dont let the companies get rid of your ability.
my oneplus 7t dosnt have any custom roms anymore only like linage and it sucks and than i have paranoid and derpfest and no more and i havent gotten an update for derp in months
Have you tried Project Elixir
@@harish.g.l.k yes also trash for my phone only customization bad battery and bad performance the only things i care about and i want higher fps in games option
@@gockartzz8272if your OnePlus7T is not the OnePlus 7T pro 4g then I feel bad for you, because if it's not the OnePlus 7T pro 4G then unfortunately you don't have a Supported Project Renegade device which means no Windows 11 on your device.
I was too that guy in 2014-2017, once I got out into the real world I would much rather have a boring phone that works rather than a customizable phone that might leave me stranded because I didn't tweak it properly
I love the "themed icons" feature from stock Pixel Launcher tho. It looks so damn good
the problem with rooting is you have to unlock your bootloader, unless you run grapheneOS on a pixel phone.
I'm currently on a quest to de-google my life and installing a custom ROM is a big part of it as you can't get rid of Google Play Services, which you haven't mentioned. It's not only a huge privacy issue (do not confuse this term with security) as it pings your location every couple of seconds (yes, even if GPS, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are all off) and sends that data to Google BUT it also drains your battery like crazy.
Even though most phones have everything you need on the oem rom, I still find it enjoyable to install an os that wasn't made by the company that manufactured the phone. I just wish Samsung just didn't remove oem unlocking from their u.s. models.
I used to have a rom on my old Samsung Galaxy Note9,that thing was stuck on One UI 2.5 and I found a rom called Noble Rom,which was One UI 5 at the time(now it is One UI 6.1),and I loved it,a few months ago I upgraded to a S21 Fe and man I miss roms,root and all the fun in that, thinking of getting a Note20 Ultra this time and romming that too
A dumb question perhaps but what is the model of that phone?
Feels good to see 9T Pro still in use
Hi, can you tell me the beste rom for smooth,good performance and for batteri life for my samsung galaxy a13 (i have always bugs)😊
1:39 mui /hyperos has all those features
Samsung has most of those features in the beginning of the video like customizing the power button and changing the location of the clock, and turning on the flashlight with the power button
My stock android, for my phone kept the google search bar at the top of my home screen, and it wasn't movable. Custom roms are nice if you have a phone that won't upgrade it's android version, and/or get up to date secuity updates.
Been away from changing roms for years not until my old trusty redmi note 8 became really slow. decided to change it and now my old redmi is snappy again
If your using Xiaomi root is required because some features are not available in my phone even it's a flagship and the support sucks.
Some custom rom have system update feature that work similar to OEM's rom.
ur wrong on 1 most important reason security updates. im still on android 12 and its been 15 months since a sec update. companies drop support on phones so fast
Fun fact I main a custom rommed phone
Same
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Sameeeeeeeeeeeeee bro's 🫶🏻
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My custom ROM is unofficial but it has performance kernel and in general it has a good battery life and zero bugs.
Bought a phone and installed custom ROM in less than three months
I have custom rom for my Realme 6 and have a better performance for daily or gaming. Before i do custom rom, i used the original one that's Realme Ui 2 and have many issues for daily usage and gaming. Such as lack for multitasking, nothing smooth for move apps to another apps, and smoetimes stuttering for gaming. Nowadyas, i decided to to some custom rom, now i use Arrow OS android 12 is just way smoother than the original one. Have a better performance, smoother for multitasking, and many customisation.
Mi 9t pro user here.
I'm running Android 13 pixel experience.
Instead of Android 10 and MIUI 12.5.
With that ROM my phone runs like 30% faster and like 100% smoother with gestures and animations.
The only downside is the lack of the original MIUI camera. There is no pixel ROMs that comes with it.
So I rock multiple self set up Google cameras with my own xmls.
I'm kinda happy with that device but it's getting old and it's not fast enough for me anymore...
Soon I'm going to go and buy vivo x80 pro from my friend.
What is the custom ROM on it I wouldn't be able to use the camera at it's fullest...
So I would need to compromise on the custom ROM.
Maybe I will install the original ROM , but modified, but who knows.
I have redmi note 7 . It stock rom stopped at Android 10, I'm on Android 14 elixir rom . It's stable and i enjoy clutter free experience and some customizations that it comes with.
in samsung phones 4g and 5g do not work with custom roms, making them useless for the main device
5:14 - What's the icon pack? It looks neat
Now the stock Android 14 has a lot of features and doesn't need so much customozability and features like it used to. Also I like playing around with roms, rooting on my older phone with Android 10/11. I've seen Lithuania in the Surfshark VPN page. I am your supporter and viewer from 🇱🇹 Lithuania. VPN is great even though I used another for specific reasons.
SRF's Note 10 Plus runs on 2021 security pach too
Using LOS21 / Android 14 on Pixel 2 XL, and stock android 14 on 4a 5g, with new 7PRO 14beta, very nice phones
Sadly custom roms are not stable enough nowadays... My phone (oneplus 9) has a terrible stock rom. 3 to 4 hours battery life, getting hot even just watching youtube on LTE. The worst thing about it Oneplus doesn't care at all. But I used to fix all of these using a rom called Nameless, but they stopped the development. Some other roms exist but full of bugs. Like camera is not working properly, mute switch no longer works etc.
1:28 I've had that on Realme OS for a few years
Current Pixels get 5 year security updates and it's sort of unreasonable to ask companies (even megacorps) to keep providing even further updates when (a) there's very few users past that support period and (b) they don't (and aren't willing to) pay anything to devs.
We can't really rely on unpaid volunteer devs to keep making ROMs for old phones either (they'll eventually move on too).
I have a rooted pixel 7 pro and im really happy with it ngl, i can customize a lot of stuff and i can update the phone really easy with pixel flasher
Mi 9t Pro has a lot of custom ROMs and still maintained well.
Noone needs custom ROM because of Chinese phone already providing themes option.
😂
I feel like part of the appeal for custom ROMs still is getting rid of unremovable system bloat (LG's phones came to mind) or that have questionable software update support. If you bought a non-Google branded phone, you could put a custom ROM on it and get close to stock Android (Setting aside LineageOS's customizations). My problem with most Android phones until Google announced they'd do their own in-house SOCs and support them for 6-8 years (So about on-par with Apple), is that you had to sign a legal waiver forfeiting a warranty to even flash a custom ROM to get security updates (Cough cough, Motorola) and to use a recent version of Android, either because the phone manufacturer was too lazy to support a device (A motorola phone I bought instead of using a recent version of Android, used an older version with a hacky gesture navigation implementation) or because Qualcomm wouldn't let them. Part of that is the reason why I refuse to buy a flagship phone with a Qualcomm SOC.
Switched from an iPhone 13 to a Pixel Fold after a few years of using Apple and being annoyed by a lot of restrictions and design choices, and outside of gaming performance, I'm already happier with the Pixel than any of the Androids ($150-300) I've had.
I just buy used. Currently using a $70 2018 Xperia that looks new. Looking to buy a S8 next as main backup
. It would be a downgrade but still really want a Samsung flagship even he it's old.
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That's not true, I'm now using CrDroid and I have no Play Integrity problems.
from miui 12 to stock android feels like heaven
For a few years now i simply debloat my stock one ui with adb. It is fast, beautiful and getting updates.
Custom ROMs are still needed for achieving privacy and De-Googling like GrapheneOS and CalyxOS. Please, try to pick better video titles. saying that Custom ROMs are dead doesn't make sense and It contradicts with what you said in the end of the video that Custom ROMs still have benefits like reviving older devices.
I'm guessing they did it cause it's now "Why I no longer use Custom Android ROMs"
I think they are a MUST for POCO or Xiaomi, or any Chinese phone that comes with million apps preinstalled (and still have nuances even after debloated stock ROM)
I'm using CalyxOS on my Pixel 8 Pro because I don't want GPlay Services. Before I've used Lineage for microG on my OnePlus 8T. Updating was always as seamless as on a stock ROM with those.
Many of the things you've mentioned can be done with goodlock in one UI
Where do you get your wallpapers from
The wallpaper in the video is from Backdrops
Google pay doesn't work on custom roms.
UPI works on stock roms only.
Last time I used a custom rom was in 2015 when cyanogen (the greatest mod ever) was already dead. I tried it again for an s4 7 years ago but ultimately reverted back to stock
I don't do this anymore because I have money to buy new phones and can get updated software that way. I also don't have time to fix bugs that crop up because banks and other stuff don't like custom roms.
I ran cyanogen on my one plus phone just learned that lineage os is its successor thanks for the vid
Never had problem. I always ose Lineage OS on year old Xiaomi T series flagship phone.
more like since 2015 gone the days that i changed Custom ROMS weekly from different groups😭
I use pixel experience for my Mi A3 with android 12 and i am very satisfied with it
Do you know that you can use MacroDroid to change the actions of the buttons?
I'll check that out! Thanks
Using apps to do this might drain your battery a bit. In-built system support is always the best for this case.
Device model your holding?
Xiaomi Mi 9T
I always saw them more of an option to give old device new life than to mod new ones. I mean, if you want to tweak your home screen, a custom launcher does the job. If you want to tweak quick settings, status bar and hardware buttons - well, don't buy a Pixel, lol.
All these custom from features are native on many phones.
From Miui 12.5 to PixelOS 14 ram management actually works. The animations are also better, even if the hz is the same.
Basically because Google Pixel exists, we who got used to stock vanilla android don't have many options to go to. And Google Pixel phones offer little in value in other countries where they are either not supported or super expensive. And no it's not dead because for us who use affordable chinese phones, custom roms provide a lot of value
And I hate to have so many options, that's why I love AOSP Android, specially LineageOS, which I can't use as my main phone basically doesn't have custom rom development unfortunately, and GSIs are not a option in my opinion, not for daily use at least 😅😅
Im still rocking with PixelOS ROM by MisterZtr on my galaxy A12s, and the custom rom space isnt dead, more like quiet these days
Samsung's can do the clock position on stock rom with good lock
Please, i need the link to the android rom list
Just search your phone model rom list
My sweet Mi 9T is running evolution X Android 14 and I love it
Same phone from the video!
had to flash customs years ago and now I own pixel and less time for tinkering, I guess rooting stock rom is enough nowadays since custom roms aren't stable across devices and I feel like flashing non rooted custom = rooting stock, but stock rom anyway will be more stable and reliant
oh, and there is something weird with latest pixels that most of custom roms aren't stable as it were back then with nexuses