Su-75: Why India is the only ray of hope for Russia’s ‘Checkmate’ 5th-gen fighter | WION Game Plan
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Russia designed the Su-75 fighter jet keeping India in mind. It’s built to rival the American F-35 and Russia aptly calls it the ‘checkmate’. Russia’s 5th generation stealth fighter has been stuck in limbo amid cost overruns, Western sanctions and geopolitical bottlenecks and needs a helping hand to co-produce it. Is India the only ray of hope for this flying Russian beast?
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India should join Su-75 programme,if only we get some knowledge and insights on how to build and work on a 5th generation fighter which willl only help us to better design and build AMCA.
*India's AMCA program is far ahead to achieve. Projected timeline for AMCA is 2031. And India needs 10 more squadrons of fighter aircrafts to maintain its 44 squadrons Air Strength. If we will be too lucky, we can get deliveries of AMCA on 2033. Now it is 2024. Pak Air force are going to acquire Chinese J20s within next 5 years. I think we should consider it as a Stop Gap between 2024-2034. And India should buy atleast 20 to 24 Su-75 within 5 years.*
Last time India was about to partner with SU they invested hundred of millions into the program for it fail to meet their expectations. Trusting western air power is the best move they can make.
@@anubratachakraborty1370 It's not going to be ready in 5 years. There's not even a flying prototype.
Yes true....because we cannot wait for that AMCA indigenous prototype at least by 2026 we can have this
The SU=75 is needed by India as development of AMCA will take its own time, which maybe too long and India doesnt have a single stealth aircraft as the Rafale is not that stealthy..however India also walked out of a joint venture with the Russians to develop a stealth fighter...so it is still a hypothetical question whether india should buy another russian fighter though the need is there
It's got exposed bolts and rivets, so it's not even really that stealthy.
I agree
@@wolfifly5944That which you are referring to was a prototype aircraft. Those issues are Not there on the regular production models
India should partner with Korea to further develop the KF-21. It's a lot further down the development path.
I think the interest of both nations in long term pursuit for alliance of choice vary. Sooner or later Russia will choose to ally with Iran against the US and Israel, whereas India is aligned to US and Israeli interests right now. In view of that it might be difficult for the two countries to maintain mutually benefitting ties, especially with a powerful China that Russia needs against the west, a China that has traditionally been a dependable Pakistan ally and has had negative outcomes in their relationship with India.
I am seeing a potential group of allies that comprises Turkey Iran Pakistan China and Russia against US Israeli Indian alliance, with a layer of support generally in the west and some Arab nations, the UAE for example.
India is more focused on AMCA
It would b giant step
And in little me's opinion,it should b named Jatayu (legendry bird in ramayan),gagandhwaj(flag of sky) or gagansamrat(emporer of skies)
Name whatever you want, we will not see it operatiinal in our lifetime. I am 40 and I am hoping my grand kids atleast will get to see it.
@@akshayb9955it's fact next 25 to.30 years we can't see it
Well, unless the war stops, no one can partner with Russia. Plus India has it's own 5th gen fighter program.
Who told you. Indians ordered s400 and many russian weapons. Chandrayan propulsion unit had help from russia. War has to be stopped by west not russia
@@Factsagainstpropoganda s400 was ordered way back in 2016 when there was no war. Idk how you know about Russian help in Chandrayan 3. I'm Indian and I have never heard of it. And I did not ever mention that Russia needs to stop the war. I just stated the war needs to come to an end. Direct military cooperation with a country at war is straight up asking for secondary sanctions. Chill out bruh
@@satyakiray8588lol let west sanction it won't make any difference
India needs Su75
If Russia wants, we can not only buy this fighter, but mass produce it inside our country for export. We have just completed the investment contract on Sukhoi 75 with the Russians, a capital of 10 billion dollars to invest in this project and probably 30 to 40 billion dollars to buy Su-35 and 57 by paying with local currency and paying with Fatih 110 and Zulfikar missiles.😉😉😉😎😎😎
Nigeria expressed interest to purchase the su 75 too💀
😂 They might sell their entire country to buy this plane ....
It is Very Cheap and Affordable. India Must Be Buy SU 75 Because It is Perfect For Replacement For IAF MIG 21. India Should Buy SU 57 For Replacement of SU 30MKI And We Already Developing Our AMCA
The Combination of SU 75 5TH GEN + AMCA MK1 5.5TH GEN + SU 57M 5TH GEN = 5TH GEN CUTTING EDGE IAF
India should buy this " RUSSIAN MASTERPIECE! "
India should join this programme with Russia. Its a golden chance to achieve the technoligy.
That's the thing. The performance issues weren't the the only thing and major issue with the SU-57. It was that Russia refused to share the technology with HAL. Which was the final draw for India to quit the Felon program.
In the end it's all about high tech. India should buy it, if it truly is a cutting-edge fighter at a low cost.
@@shikharrawat2298like they did with the armata
Yes, IF they agree to technology transfers & accept payment in Rupees. It would jump start AMCA and upgrade to Tejas MK2b
Rupees does not hold value in international transactions tbh
buying into the F-35 program is like buiyng into a microsoft agreement for continual software licences. USA and India may be 'friendly' but are they at risk of sanctions from USA if they make a wrong move geopolitically? Why buy a platform from a country who knows all it's strengths and weaknesses, better to develop something on your own.
It's possible, even likely, the F-35 is far superior to Chinese fighters and would be devastating if used. That's why so many countries are buying them.
Only way to test this Aircraft against its competitor is like any other weaponry..... War.
India may not have the time to develop their own before it gets hot, but home grown systems are always better for the country.
India will go with Su-75 only when politicians and bureaucrats want to have kickbacks from Russia for this deal otherwise no chance
Should atleast buy in smaller quantities and see what key difference between our stealth technology vs their to make better fighter jets in future! No doubt SU-75 looks promising
Russia's true 5th gen is going to be rolling out around the same time as western 6th gen fighters.
Russia are not mad to give this supper king fighter jet to india.
Apparently they are..
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The US could sell its aircraft to India, perhaps even at a discount. But they certainly will not share technology, and such a deal will make India critically dependent on the wishes and whims of the world hegemon. The United States can at any time stop supplying spare parts and ammunition for its equipment; there are plenty of examples. In contrast, the Russian Federation will do business with India by analogy with the BRAMOS missiles, which are now being produced in huge quantities in Indian factories and exported, the benefits for India will be incredible. It’s worth forking out for it, not to mention the fact that the Russian Federation is an old friend and ally.
SU-75 is like a Boeing version of vertical take-off aircraft X-32 so there's no reason to be afraid...
Its best Option 🔥🔥🔥🔥for India as Stop gap,
India shld join this program for local production of su 75...and induct it in IAF
According to many F-35 pilots it flies like a piano, hopefully Su-75 can do better.
*India's AMCA program is far ahead to achieve. Projected timeline for AMCA is 2031. And India needs 10 more squadrons of fighter aircrafts to maintain its 44 squadrons Air Strength. If we will be too lucky, we can get deliveries of AMCA on 2033. Now it is 2024. Pak Air force are going to acquire Chinese J20s within next 5 years. I think we should consider it as a Stop Gap between 2024-2034. And India should buy atleast 20 to 24 Su-75 within 5 years.*
Absolutely not.. previously Russia ditched us with su57,, and I don't think Russia could offer us some game changing technology...
We only focus on AMCA
Russia needs to get its avionics and engine technology modernized to be competitive.
Lol... 🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣
They already have.. 🥴🥴🥴
Go do some research on the subject.
quite sad that indian aerospace sector is slow and ineffective, almost every country has its own 5th gen jet, we need to promote growth in aerospace sector more
Bruh do your research again not almost every nation but only a few nation have 5th Gen Fighter Jet... Facts
Every country ?? Buddy only 3 countries in the world have 5th gen fighter, which world you are living ??
the SUKHOI Su-75A Checkmate multi role air dominance fighter could do with a dedicated naval variant that will operate from straight & flat deck STOL LHAs . . . but not STOBAR . . . a naval carrier borne SUKHOI Su-75M Checkmate multi role all weather interceptor . . .
yes . India should be
Speed should be increased upto Mach 2 5
India should by 5 checkmate and check the capability of the jet
It india could not roll out the production ready AMCA by 2030 it will be too late. While chinese introduced J20 protoype and roll out the combat ready fighter on the same year . If we don't fast up. Its better to buy some su 57 and su 75 under the production licence and let few private firms to enter the fighter production to be done on time without any delays and lags.
Fool me one, shame on you
Fool me twice, shame on me
After Su-50 PAKFA to FGFA charade and Izdeliye-30 engine still not in production, and barely 20 some that ever got produced they want to pitch this Su-75 to us again in name of muh fifth gen stealth jet hurr durr? Just clear AMCA funding right away ffs
Fantastic appreciable technology.
India already backed out from the su 57 program
And tbh it was a good decision as the su 57 wasn’t a good aircraft
India needs to think about it and take a good decision.
But yes we do need a good 5th gen fighter and by the time the amca
Does it fight flight and production starts the world will start work on there 7th gen fighters.
It will stay on the ground just like the 57 😂
Cost overruns? Who told you. The project is the fastest fighter jet in development. Prototype is already being manufactured. Indian was never an intended customer. Middle Eastern nations are the buyers. It’s evident. This is jointly being developed with them.
India is decades behind in terms of self development on fighter jets. It must rely on external players
India should join SU-75 collaboration and also buy a few squadrons ready and work on it's AMCA fighter. Fighter Jet building is an art and needs decades over decades of design and improvement, which Russia already has. Also, best test of machinery and mettle is War, of which Russia has been having decades of tried and tested and proven capability.
India lost so may decades because of sanctions and even lack of political will and even sheer naivety of governments in both Defense (Offence) and also Space.
India should never stop it's drive to become self-reliant and self-sufficient, but also needs to be ready for anything "right now".
For starters. The engine. Unless the core engine technology is transferred the jet is worthless. Secondly weapons integration packages. Full and complete TOT required. Doubtful if that will happen. So better to go indigenous.
i dont know it will go or not,
but it should.
India is not going to buy.... India may be interested in engine..
Russia ❤❤❤
Tejas MK2 in limbo not even sure which engine to use, AMCA also has the same fate. Mig 21s on its last leg, Mig 29, Jaguars getting old really fast. Mirage spares are going to be an issue. India will have to induct some other fighters soon otherwise our air force will just have 36 Rafales and 260odd Su 30MKIs to defend the country.
India's only fighter to date is the Tejas MK1, which is entirely obsolete on launch. Don't make us laugh!
If immediately available... SU 75 is better as US is not a reliable ally.. anytime yhey can stop technical support.
India = pan handler for technology
India should not go with su75
It have better options like france smd uk to make 6 gen fighter jet
Because we had not a good exp with su 57 .
So India should make it own amca and should invent is own kaveri engine
If they want to spend a lot of money, build their own Fifth gen. Purchasing an untested unsupported RUSSIAN copy, go ahead and live with a lower bank balance, and growing pains to support the electronic growing pains. Buy American F-35 and get many upgrades now.
Russian tech never fails, l can see that in ukraine russia war how effective western weapons are
1) Russia is in the middle of the Ukraine war. They will not be able to deliver the planes.
2) India still has the bitter taste of the SU-57 fiasco
You buy cheap ,you get cheap.
You buy overpriced, you get overpriced 🤷🏻♂️
Amca is for 2090 let's go with su 75 for time being
Su 57= Su 75 is dream fighter look like F35 , continue to try.
If you want to keep.Russia as ur buddy around than.yes if not say gud bye to Russia for big projects
And india is the height number of engineers producing country 😅
Need su 75
It’s highly unlikely that India would go for Su-75, If hostilities with China escalate before AMCA is ready India may purchase limited numbers of Su-57 but investing in Su-75 development doesn’t make sense.
Another factor against procurement of Su-75, is the flying coffin experience with Mig-21, India should be wary of repeating the same mistake.
Already with the war in Ukraine, the Mission availability of Sukhoi, Mig, Mil, Antonov and Ilyushin fleets of Indian Air Force has suffered and reduced, so there’s no guarantee of any future purchases from Russia.
mig 21 may be know as the flying coffin due to its age and poor serviceability but its no doubt a very capable machine with bison upgraded to the brim!!!!! i have school friends in the IAF and 2 of them are flying the mig21 and they speak highly of the mig21 bison and its capabilities !!!!!! funfact the bison can fly faster then a rafale and has a higher service ceiling then the rafale!!!! only issue is reliability due to its age......if russia is ready to do TOT for the su75 and 57 and if they agree to provide the source code for them then IAF will definitely go for the sukhois as its a no brainer......
the reason IAF got out of the su57/ PAK FA development is because russia denied the source code of the fighter!!!! ITS VERY IMPORTANT AS IT WOULD HAVE ENABLED US TO DO UPGRADES OF OUR OWN!!!!
India has always maintained two lines of fighters: a heavy and a light one. With Su-75 being a downsized version of Su-57, it kinda makes sense to adopt the two, or even one of them.
Remember that we🇺🇲 had UFO ship fighters called triangle fighters it 💋💋💋💋🍑all over the world that's for sure.
Which Elite said Just wait.. YOU did good job well done but just wait please and TY.
Amca will take another 10 years to be completed as per defence sources
The question is not will it rival the question is will it be built or real since Russia love boasting of things they don't have
Indigenous Fifth generation fighter is a long way off. So we may think of buying SU 75.
Russian weapons and flights are so sophisticated than western. They are more accurate and easy fixables. Supercomputer installation with quantum computing is russian defence key succes, where west still play with 1930 semi conductor tech
Huuaaattttt!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
dear god please lay off the copium its gunna kill you
@@HK-ce2lj cry hard
@@yanisbaker881 come out delusional baby
@@Factsagainstpropogandabro, what fighter has the best air-to-air performance in the world again?
remember the t0s you got from russia. lmao
The bigger question for India, should they keep Russian aircraft factories alive as a counter against China in the future? Or would they be keeping a bear alive that may try to devour them?
If I were India I'd be more worried about the west devouring them. China and Russia need a powerful India for them to be safe and prosperous (vice versa for India). The west is terrified of non western powers gaining parity, or heaven forbid... surpassing the West. If they ever crushed Russia and China they would immediately turn next to a powerful independent India, mark my words
@@funbarsolaris2822you do know that the "west" is an actual network of military alliances. You think china would give a damn if Russia was attacked? And did you forget about India and China's borders?
Buy one get one free?
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It is Russia boeing x32.
The big problem with the idea of india buying su 75 or 57 is sensor fusion and data processing capabilities russias sensors and networking capabilities are just nowhere close to good enough to produce true 5th gen fighter especially with current sanctions the best you can realistically hope for is a stealthy jet firing missels that fail a little to often that cant really coperate or share radar imaging with other jets with ai worse than tesla self driving software😂 yes it would handily defeat any 4th gen fighter but chinas. j 20 would on average swat it out of the sky by sacrificing 1 drone for a radar lock and firing away from beyond visual with the rest of the wing
In other words, maybe OK for strike missions past enemy air defense but not very good at defense or ground support against a near peir, like China so useless for India
No
😂😂😂
I think we should go for su 75... because Pakistan may get 5th generation aircraft from turkey this year...for India amca takes more time to develop and produce.
You do know the TF-X is just experimental, right? It will be a very long time before it reaches maturity. And i doubt Pakistan can really afford it either
I think it will be even bigger failure than T14 tank... On paper it's superior but it's so stealthy that nobody has ever seen in on a battlefield 😅
Like my name
Lol what bs😂
How are Leopard tanks doing in Ukraine?
@@Storm-zr5qw 11 Leopards lost... Russian tanks aren't doing well either, 2 173 lost
@@Storm-zr5qwlemme give you one better. How many Armatas are in Ukraine? How many have been produced?
Bharat should invest in SU 75.... It's not that Russia is our frnd....but it is for our benefits
Russia is not your friend? How easily you forget the past.
Backstab
@@seek__truth919 ingratitude
Law-da😂
India had invested in it... But because of less workshare and tech sharing ... India withdrew with millions of loss .
Lemon News,
India will not go to any foreign nation's fifth generation fighter
I guess Pakistan will first to buy this
😂😂😂
You mean it's chinese variant?
What hope when India doesn't even have their own engine 😆
best course of action by Russia is joint projects with China. China has the money and tech, while Russia has the experience and development know how.
China steals tech
India 🇮🇳Russia🇷🇺
Point of corrections Russia does not make weapons for competition against usa and Russia does not make stealth aircraft because there is no such of stealthy because of Russia radars that is powerful in the world but Russia and india are old friend and friend ls don't forget each other though Russia has plenty if friendly countries to sell
Why no air superiority in Ukraine then?
@@nileshsharma9220they do have air superiority, but in the modern era of drones, radars and advanced SAMs its more restrained than previous eras of war. One of the reasons given for the failure of the Ukrainian counter offensive was that Russia has air superiority. Its been all over the press here in the UK for months as well as the rest of the west by and large
@@nileshsharma9220they dominate the Ukrainian aerospace since the first month of the war.
What absolute BS... 🐂💨💩
Russia doesn't need India at all to produce the SU 75 🤭🤣🤣🤣
As we know the only cou8ntry that Invested a lot on Su75 Project is Iran and Ru8ssia is not dumbh they never sell Su75 to not 100% ally countries . if India wants this 5th fighter they shou8ld be ..Russias Real ally not play both sides u know