Saw your channel for the first time today. Loved this segment. I've been using Garmin GPS units for over 25 years, back when they would only track 4 satellites, and if you were in a canopy, you were just screwed. Another great use for the unit is the internal compass. I shot a deer as legal shooting time closed in, used the compass to plot the angle to the deer and the range finder to get a distance and used the info to pan out that angle and distance to drop a pin for the start of the blood trail. You know how different things look on the ground from what it looked like from the stand. I would have never found the blood trail as quickly had I not done this.
Thats a fantastic tip! especially using the range finder to mark the last seen spot. never heard of anyone doing that before and its brilliant! Thanks for sharing!
OMG. What a fantastic presentation! I have been wanting a handheld GPS for years for exactly these reasons. I just purchased a Garmin 60CSX brand new in the box (I know they have been out of production for years) and can't wait to get back up to camp in Maine where I live to enjoy deer hunting. I have tried the apps for phones and found them to be absolutely useless for where I hunt. This video was concise and genuine in the presentation. Kudos to you sir, you exemplify what is good and noble about our sport. So psyched to get out there and use this new tool. Thank you!
I was lost in 10,000 acres and took me several hours to sit to rethink my exit. Gonna buy one now. I knew I was headed north in and followed compass due south on way out.
I waited for 5 year's after the 64st came out to get it on sale and after getting it I realized I should've bought it sooner! Absolutely love how it helps me get out of the woods after spending the morning walking around. And blood trailing deer has been alot easier with the 64st! Keeping your scent track small by keeping the same trail , especially when hunting a big buck he won't tolerate scent trails all over. his area. Walking through thicket's can be scary due not ever being able to tell where your headed due to falling down and spinning around due to briar's catching on your clothes. Excellent video.
I never go into the woods without my GPS. I have found many long tracked animals in the deepest, darkest swamps and then back out easily using mine. Essential piece of gear.
Can you talk about the documentary ; Missing 411 and The missing 411 the Hunted I’ve never ever been afraid of being in the outdoors, but the Missing 411 and especially RUSTY WEST telling about missing people cases really raised my awareness about how ANYBODY could end up dead in the outdoors.
Saw it too great documentary. Couple days later I was lost for hours in a small 700 acre area, not fun. My compass quit working for unknown reasons same with my on x app in my cel phone. I definitely buying a gps and a better compass.
Just bought my first Hand Held yesterday a Garmin 66s for an up coming hunt out in Colorado ,looking forward to getting my hands on it to start the learning curve I already know it's going to an absolute game changer. The Blood Trailing issue is some Great information about the use of it I actually didn't even think about that thanks Jason
I love how you can find a landscape feature deep in the woods on Google earth and then type in the coordinates into GPS and save as a waypoint. Then go straight to it.
I know this is an older video, but I thought I would add something else as far as a pro on the GPS over the pro, besides the ones you already mentioned. In order to keep all your way points etc you have saved on your phone app, you have to keep that service, so if something happens and the auto renew messes up, you loose all your info. I know that has happened to me in the past using a app, I won't name it. but it completely deleted my acct, so I lost all my stuff, about three years of hunting. Never lost anything on my GPS, I started out with a garmin many years ago, I think it was an eTrex, and the current on is the Gaprm GPS 64 ST. It works great. Like you say, get in an area where the phone don't work, the app don't work, the Garmin still works. Have a blessed week my friend and keep up the fun videos. Dale
@@SamkoTradBow Yes sir, I was. It was extremely aggravating to say the least. Thank you sir, keep up the fun videos and have a blessed week. We are officially down to 36 days until opening day here in Oklahoma. Looking forward to it. Dale
These would be great for foraging. Not gonna a lie, I’ve gotten pretty lost a few times when my eyes were glued to the ground looking for morels and not paying attention to where I was walking. Placing way points when you find a good spot too!
Step one...ask viewer why you need one and that the reason is not for navigation. Step two...make your first reason that it's great to use to take the same route in and out to your stand....using the navigation features...bread crumbs/trackback for instance... Informative video though on some super useful features! I have the 64s and mostly use it for tracking tides and sun/moon rise for photography. Yeah, I can use my phone and an app...but simplicity is key with less distractions. It just works.
I don't hunt but these are essential if you like to go backcountry hiking or show shoeing. Your cell phone coverage will cut out at some point and if you want to find the way back to your vehicle these GPS units are essential, especially if the weather turns and you can't see anything anymore.
With cell phone carriers completely digitizing their networks means more likelihood you'll lose cell phone coverage in extreme rural areas. One area I hunted in Texas I was always able to get a phone signal, but not any longer. I owned an ST and purchased an SX a couple days ago. I agree with all your points completely...nice vid.
Etrex 30x has the electronic compass and is way cheaper than the 64. The screens of the 20 and 30x are very cheap thin easy to scratch plastic though. Make sure to buy extra protectors before first use
Awesome info,gotta get one.I shot at a nice buck and thought I hit him.I went over to check and found no blood or hair but he jumped right up with all four legs.Checked for 3 days with no luck,but now I see how the gps would really help.
I still use both of these models regularly. I also have onx on my phone. Hopefully this summer I will get time to aed onx on my GPS and see gow well it works. Onx is great but on a cell phone not the most accurate. The GPS is amazing but wish it was linked to my onx and onx mapping. Going to see if I xan combine that this summer.
What i think is nice about those GPS devices, is that they are more durable than most mobile phones, and that the battery can last a LONG time (depending on the settings), because the GPS is not wasting battery power on all the other stuff you have on a phone. Another (potentially) extremely important feature, is that it allows you to "call for help" (SOS function and text messages) if you have an accident in areas where you dont have signal for your mobile phone. BUT - depending on which GPS you get, some of them are kinda expensive, and you also have to pay monthly fees to use those service. These subscriptions can be pretty cheap, but they can also be WAY more expensive than your average mobile subscription... So as long as you have a sturdy "shock proof" and "water proof" phone, and you dont plan to go outside the areas where you have cell phone coverage (in case you have an accident, but NOT because the app doesnt work there, because it will work just fine, and the "Alpine Quest" app for Android provides probably ALL the functions mentioned in this video, and then some. And its also very simple to use...), then im not sure why you would need a GPS... If the battery is not enough, then a battery bank or 2 should have you covered for a pretty substantial trip (or just some extra batteries, if you dont like having that charger connected and messing up your charging port because it gets bent back and forth if you keep it in your pocket)...
Very very well said and great points. I also dont trust cell phone navigation very much. My phone is a pain in the but to get last 20 yards to an exact tree. But my gps is spot on and gets me there everytime. Was just in kansas with john from tactisaddle.com and he was using a very popular app on his cell phone and even downloaded maps of the area in that app. Every day he was complaining about not getting to the spot correctly. And on the 4th day I was paddling down the river and he was on the bank looking for his boat he marked. I told him I will head down river and uell when I find it. He was off by 150 yards. I will stick with my tried and true and proven Garmin gps.
@@SamkoTradBow WOW! 150 yards is a LOT! I think phones are generally said to be accurate within around 20 yards. But i just read in a test that at least a couple of "Iphone6s" devices were actually slightly more precise than the Garmin Edge 520, which was the best GPS device in the test. I did the math, and the iphones seem to have had an error of about 11,792yards, VS the Garmin Edge 520 had 17,6yards error (im guessing these are the average numbers from the tests)... Here is an excerpt: "In that test we found that GPS apps, running on a smartphone or even a tablet device, can record very accurate data. In fact, the Strava app on an iPhone and an Asus tablet reported more accurate data than any of the standalone GPS devices we tested." And here is the link: www.singletracks.com/mtb-gear/gps-accuracy-gps-vs-smartphone-vs-cyclocomputer/
@@SamkoTradBow I still think a GPS is a very good thing to have though... Im thinking of backpacking or bikepacking next summer, so then i need something reliable to navigate with. Im NOT good at understanding how far i have been walking in a dense forest, where i dont see many landmarks that i can recognize on a topography map... Up to 3 months battery life on the Garmin Explorer is extremely good. But im not sure if the settings required to get 3 months is useful for navigation..? But even if the GPS only lasts 1 day on decent settings, a device that only uses 2 AA batteries, is still very practical..!
I went hunting out of state last year,,in CT. My brother in law lives there and had a place for me to hunt. I have a nice GPS handheld and it is a good thing I do. We went in during daylight and set my stand up on the side of a mountain,,I have never been there before and had no idea what the land looked like around me.I had my GPS on a recorded the stands location. The next morning he dropped me off on the road and then he drove down the road to his stand. Now,,you all know what a place looks like in the dark compared to daylight. It was a bit careless of him but I had this under control ,,but only because I had this GPS. Without it,,this would have been a horrible idea. I walked directly to my stand because of the tracks feature. There is NO way anyone would have been able to do this without it. We did this for 3 days and nights. Without a issue. At the end of all this, I mentioned to him that I had a GPS,,something he did not know. And I told him,,if you ever do this again with someone else,,a GPS is so important. And exsplained to him how dangerous this was since he thought he was dropping me off blind.
Thanks for sharing that experience! Yep not only does a gps make life easier it also makes sure you make it home to your family at the end of the hunt.
@@SamkoTradBow Yep,,I mark all my stands also. I save them for years and can always go right back to the same tree if I wanted to. I do not have base camp anymore,subscription ran out, but was thinking about paying for it. Im not sure how to go about that. The satellite image is worth the money IMO
@@5153flash if it's a Garmin's download basecamp on your computer. Then buy the birds eye imaging subscription they you gps and you can download any images for a whole uear.
@Botchvinik Yep that is my email address. Yes when you buy a new garmin gps you should get a free year subscription to garmins birdseye imagery. sp you download garmin basemap to your computer, then plug in your unit, click birdseye and it will walk you thru the process of registering your gps and set up. then you can download aerial photos to your gps unit.
@Botchvinik the basecamp is for your computer and is the main area that all of your gps maps, waypoints, routes etc will all be saved. its like your home base for all you garmin devises. birdseye is a feature that allows you to download the aerial images to your gps. you do all of this in base camp. then transfer the birds eye images to your gps thru basecamp.
thanks for the response! im defiantly going to have ton invest in one here soon. Just seems pricy and with all the subscriptions required these days it makes it even less appealing for the ole buy once cry once@@SamkoTradBow
Jason could you maybe do a short tutorial on the different ways you do use the Garmin? I bought one after seeing this, and would appreciate just knowing the different things that you can do. Thanks for the consideration. BTW your hunt vourse is awesome!
That is a fantastic idea and will see what I can do. Its hard to do as I dont want people to see where my spots are etc. But might be able to mock something up.
The Etrex 20 was terrible finding stand locations in the dark in comparison to my Older Etrex with the higher sensitivity but lost accurate time and date I switched to the Garmin 64 and transferred all my years of waypoints plus you see deers movement patterns throughout the season as pressure builds up with marked Deer waypoints on the tracklog in extremely large woods phones are worthless unless I save map with OnX but really fine tune with the Garmin 64
@@SamkoTradBow the Etrex 20 had me walking in circles to trees I marked for stand locations in the vast Pine Barrens of NJ between 2 areas of 20,000 and 30,000 acres I got bow areas as well as shotgun area once the multiple gun clubs start doing drives and favor major runs heading to a cedar swamp and a conservatory from state land with a 100% success rate every opening day .
I been using GPS units for 18yrs the original etrex high sensitivity is better than the etrex 20 that had me going in circles trying to find my stand in the dark for a morning hunt putting scent all over the place picked up a Garmin 64 awesome unit with the antenna spent hours at home putting in numbers off the other 2 units loading it in the 64 and named areas also mark areas where I seen deer on the hoof and 10ys the track log actually shows how the deer move threw out the woods and marking downed animals that I drag to close trails so I can get the cart to find them in the dark and load them out.
What would your suggestion be for emergency calls where there is no cell service? I hunt many times alone, I wonder sometimes what would happen if I fell, broke something,...etc... and can't get in touch with anyone. any options out there? only been doing this for a little while, barely a "newbie" at this hunting thing.
Very practical perspective and overview. I am leaning towards this model, but I am curious - assuming the battery died and you swapped the batteries and rebooted - would the trail and waypoints you took from car to stand (a-b) remain? I am guessing it is saved but don't want to assume. Thanks for putting this together.
Great question! the waypoints and breadcrumbs are still stored in the memory. So when you switch batteries it fires right back up to the same thing you had when you powered it off.
@@stevenhicks815 that I can't help with. I never had a model that came with them preloaded. You should also have a year subscription to garmins Birdseye images. So when you load farmin Basecamp on you computer and plug your GPS in you should be able to access Birdseye images and download maps and aerial photos to your gps.
The constant runtimes are in their specs. But it varies depending on battery type. I know the trex 20 last about 30% longer on a set of batteries. Bit the 64 is faster, bigger and in my opinion worth it.
I always make sure to get a phone with a good independent GPS so I don't need cell service. I can use a free app called MyTrails that allows me to download & cash topo's & aerials (for free) for use without cell service, but like you discussed, you have to learn the app & I haven't wanted to spend the time (there is no support) & that caused my to loose a bunch of valuable data once. Plus I have to be moving for the compass to work or use a separate one. Both of which are a pain in the dark. I wish Garmin allowed free imagery like my app dose (when I have cell service). I have an old Rino 120 which is about useless. I may have to consider a new one despite the cost. I would miss my big screen though.
Yep i have been using onx as well and like it but i still make sure to have the info backed up in my gps and honestly trust my gps more and like it better for many things. I think when you buy a new garmin you get a year free subscription to garmins birds eye imagery so you can download all your aerials and maps for free. at least for a year.
@@fliguy43 I do show how to use google earth, google maps, hill maps, mytopo, etc for scouting and figuring out hunting spots in my bow hunting whitetails online course. but for how to add maps to your gps I will do that later this year when I add new maps of my new out of state hunting areas im going to.
Depending on where you are it can take anywhere from 1-3 mins when you first turn them on. But once on they are always working in real time and fast. The garmin 64 with the external antenna has better reception in the super thick cedar swamps. but both work great. If your gps wont work your cell phone definitely wont as your cell phone uses a gps as well when out of cell service. But a garmin gps has signal long after your cell phone looses it.
I sure can! It will probably not be until winter before I can as I dont want to do it showing my actual hunting locations...lol and time is tight right now. But this winter I will make sure to do a video that show all of it in detail.
Not trying to be a Debbie downer but a handheld gps doesn’t make sense to me when my phone with the OnX app does every single thing mentioned here. You just download the map for the area you are hunting prior to going out, and you can do all this from your phone.
To be honest, I've had the opportunity to hunt one of the most remote areas of Arizona, the Apache Sitegreaves NF, a place that is currently doing wolf reintroductions and where there has been some debate of trying to reintroduce the grizzly. Just trying to emphasize that this place is remote. That said I've had no problem using my mapping app on my phone as long as I've done the offline download and have a battery pack available to ensure the phone doesn't die. I have all my hunting maps set up and am able to update locations where I've found sign and made harvests etc. Once I get back in cell phone range I can sync any map updates I've made and can plan future hunts on my tablet or laptop, whichever I prefer. I can always be convinced if there's a good argument for dedicated GPS, but really I can't justify the additional expense considering what hunting apps can do.
Yep the apps today like onx are great. I use onx very often. I still use my GPS for all my grid searching and love the accuracy of a GPS. And I like the redundancy of having both. But you are correct. If the apps are working for you no need to buy a GPS.
We live in central New York with good cell service and have at many times had my iphone apps point me in a direction that I knew wasn’t correct. I was checking just for approximate location of points I marked previously or exact location. Pointing me in one direction then 60 yards forward showing to go the other way. We think perhaps the signal was tower jumping. At night or dark this could easily cause problems. Still don’t have a GPS though.
Says gps not used for navigation. Then says need it to navigate it back forth on the same trail. Huh. Not for navigation but need it to navigate the same trail. Am I missing something here.
Didnt say needed it to walk same trail. Explained the benefits of using it to walk the same route. Yes there is a difference. Relying on a gps because you dont have the woodsmanship skills will not help you develop those skills. But following a blue line on a gps in the dark will make sure you are not stomping all over the area with more than one very confined foot print of scent. Call it what you want but the point and benefit is pretty clear.
FYI: IMHO: I had a Garmin, "Oregon 650t" GPS unit, and, I thought it was going to be a great unit, but, after trying to use it, I found it EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING, CONFUSING, INFURIATING, and ALMOST WORTHLESS, It has/had NO "Internal Map data,.... It only showed a "blank screen, with NO TOPO features, and was Practically USELESS for most of what you are talking about. And, it SUCKED POWER like Darth Vader!!!....
No experience with the touch screen GPS units. But you can buy all the Garmin with preloaded maps and with all Garmin you get a year subscription to Birdseye imaging to download all thw maps and aerial images you want of all your areas for free.
Not sure as I still use the Garmin 64. Don't know much about the new ones yet. Bit if I were to buy a new one it would be Garmin again. I've owned 6 Garmin and they have always been excellent
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Saw your channel for the first time today. Loved this segment. I've been using Garmin GPS units for over 25 years, back when they would only track 4 satellites, and if you were in a canopy, you were just screwed. Another great use for the unit is the internal compass. I shot a deer as legal shooting time closed in, used the compass to plot the angle to the deer and the range finder to get a distance and used the info to pan out that angle and distance to drop a pin for the start of the blood trail. You know how different things look on the ground from what it looked like from the stand. I would have never found the blood trail as quickly had I not done this.
Thats a fantastic tip! especially using the range finder to mark the last seen spot. never heard of anyone doing that before and its brilliant! Thanks for sharing!
OMG. What a fantastic presentation! I have been wanting a handheld GPS for years for exactly these reasons. I just purchased a Garmin 60CSX brand new in the box (I know they have been out of production for years) and can't wait to get back up to camp in Maine where I live to enjoy deer hunting. I have tried the apps for phones and found them to be absolutely useless for where I hunt. This video was concise and genuine in the presentation. Kudos to you sir, you exemplify what is good and noble about our sport. So psyched to get out there and use this new tool. Thank you!
Thanks! You will love that garmin 60! Happy hunting!
I was lost in 10,000 acres and took me several hours to sit to rethink my exit. Gonna buy one now. I knew I was headed north in and followed compass due south on way out.
Yep a gps sure does come in handy and keep you safe.
I waited for 5 year's after the 64st came out to get it on sale and after getting it I realized I should've bought it sooner! Absolutely love how it helps me get out of the woods after spending the morning walking around.
And blood trailing deer has been alot easier with the 64st! Keeping your scent track small by keeping the same trail , especially when hunting a big buck he won't tolerate scent trails all over.
his area. Walking through thicket's can be scary due not ever being able to tell where your headed due to falling down and spinning around due to briar's catching on your clothes.
Excellent video.
Yep love the 64! Glad its working great for you
I never go into the woods without my GPS. I have found many long tracked animals in the deepest, darkest swamps and then back out easily using mine. Essential piece of gear.
Yep that's the main use I have for mine as well. Love it! Makes grid searching easy as walking.
Can you talk about the documentary ;
Missing 411
and
The missing 411 the Hunted
I’ve never ever been afraid of being in the outdoors,
but the Missing 411 and especially
RUSTY WEST
telling about missing people cases really raised my awareness about how ANYBODY
could end up dead in the outdoors.
Saw it too great documentary. Couple days later I was lost for hours in a small 700 acre area, not fun. My compass quit working for unknown reasons same with my on x app in my cel phone. I definitely buying a gps and a better compass.
Just bought my first Hand Held yesterday a Garmin 66s for an up coming hunt out in Colorado ,looking forward to getting my hands on it to start the learning curve I already know it's going to an absolute game changer. The Blood Trailing issue is some Great information about the use of it I actually didn't even think about that thanks Jason
You will love it. The accuracy of a GPS is awesome.
Just got to your channel from this GPS stuff. Also hunter. Never used a stand, or a GPS. But man, you make a lot of sense.
Welcome to the channel! Glad you are enjoying the videos
I love how you can find a landscape feature deep in the woods on Google earth and then type in the coordinates into GPS and save as a waypoint. Then go straight to it.
Agree 100%
I know this is an older video, but I thought I would add something else as far as a pro on the GPS over the pro, besides the ones you already mentioned. In order to keep all your way points etc you have saved on your phone app, you have to keep that service, so if something happens and the auto renew messes up, you loose all your info. I know that has happened to me in the past using a app, I won't name it. but it completely deleted my acct, so I lost all my stuff, about three years of hunting. Never lost anything on my GPS, I started out with a garmin many years ago, I think it was an eTrex, and the current on is the Gaprm GPS 64 ST. It works great. Like you say, get in an area where the phone don't work, the app don't work, the Garmin still works.
Have a blessed week my friend and keep up the fun videos.
Dale
Good to know. I would be pissed if I had all the spots set on one of the app services and then lost it all.
@@SamkoTradBow Yes sir, I was. It was extremely aggravating to say the least. Thank you sir, keep up the fun videos and have a blessed week. We are officially down to 36 days until opening day here in Oklahoma. Looking forward to it.
Dale
These would be great for foraging. Not gonna a lie, I’ve gotten pretty lost a few times when my eyes were glued to the ground looking for morels and not paying attention to where I was walking. Placing way points when you find a good spot too!
Agree 100
Great review just bought Etrex 22x. Can’t wait to utilize all your ideas. Thanks again.
You will love it
Step one...ask viewer why you need one and that the reason is not for navigation.
Step two...make your first reason that it's great to use to take the same route in and out to your stand....using the navigation features...bread crumbs/trackback for instance...
Informative video though on some super useful features! I have the 64s and mostly use it for tracking tides and sun/moon rise for photography. Yeah, I can use my phone and an app...but simplicity is key with less distractions. It just works.
I don't hunt but these are essential if you like to go backcountry hiking or show shoeing. Your cell phone coverage will cut out at some point and if you want to find the way back to your vehicle these GPS units are essential, especially if the weather turns and you can't see anything anymore.
Agree 100%
Has there been an update to this video? I'm looking to add a tracker gps to my equipment list.
I have not make another video about gps set ups yet. Im still using these exact ones! will try to make another one soon.
Great review, just ordered the Etrex20.
Thank you for the information.
You will love it
With cell phone carriers completely digitizing their networks means more likelihood you'll lose cell phone coverage in extreme rural areas. One area I hunted in Texas I was always able to get a phone signal, but not any longer. I owned an ST and purchased an SX a couple days ago. I agree with all your points completely...nice vid.
Great points about cells going digital!
Etrex 30x has the electronic compass and is way cheaper than the 64. The screens of the 20 and 30x are very cheap thin easy to scratch plastic though. Make sure to buy extra protectors before first use
Awesome info,gotta get one.I shot at a nice buck and thought I hit him.I went over to check and found no blood or hair but he jumped right up with all four legs.Checked for 3 days with no luck,but now I see how the gps would really help.
yep a very handy tool for grid searching
This video is 3 years old. Do you have a current model you like. Also would you add on-X to it. Thank you 💯
I still use both of these models regularly. I also have onx on my phone. Hopefully this summer I will get time to aed onx on my GPS and see gow well it works. Onx is great but on a cell phone not the most accurate. The GPS is amazing but wish it was linked to my onx and onx mapping. Going to see if I xan combine that this summer.
What i think is nice about those GPS devices, is that they are more durable than most mobile phones, and that the battery can last a LONG time (depending on the settings), because the GPS is not wasting battery power on all the other stuff you have on a phone. Another (potentially) extremely important feature, is that it allows you to "call for help" (SOS function and text messages) if you have an accident in areas where you dont have signal for your mobile phone. BUT - depending on which GPS you get, some of them are kinda expensive, and you also have to pay monthly fees to use those service. These subscriptions can be pretty cheap, but they can also be WAY more expensive than your average mobile subscription... So as long as you have a sturdy "shock proof" and "water proof" phone, and you dont plan to go outside the areas where you have cell phone coverage (in case you have an accident, but NOT because the app doesnt work there, because it will work just fine, and the "Alpine Quest" app for Android provides probably ALL the functions mentioned in this video, and then some. And its also very simple to use...), then im not sure why you would need a GPS... If the battery is not enough, then a battery bank or 2 should have you covered for a pretty substantial trip (or just some extra batteries, if you dont like having that charger connected and messing up your charging port because it gets bent back and forth if you keep it in your pocket)...
Very very well said and great points. I also dont trust cell phone navigation very much. My phone is a pain in the but to get last 20 yards to an exact tree. But my gps is spot on and gets me there everytime. Was just in kansas with john from tactisaddle.com and he was using a very popular app on his cell phone and even downloaded maps of the area in that app. Every day he was complaining about not getting to the spot correctly. And on the 4th day I was paddling down the river and he was on the bank looking for his boat he marked. I told him I will head down river and uell when I find it. He was off by 150 yards. I will stick with my tried and true and proven Garmin gps.
@@SamkoTradBow WOW! 150 yards is a LOT! I think phones are generally said to be accurate within around 20 yards. But i just read in a test that at least a couple of "Iphone6s" devices were actually slightly more precise than the Garmin Edge 520, which was the best GPS device in the test. I did the math, and the iphones seem to have had an error of about 11,792yards, VS the Garmin Edge 520 had 17,6yards error (im guessing these are the average numbers from the tests)... Here is an excerpt:
"In that test we found that GPS apps, running on a smartphone or even a tablet device, can record very accurate data. In fact, the Strava app on an iPhone and an Asus tablet reported more accurate data than any of the standalone GPS devices we tested."
And here is the link:
www.singletracks.com/mtb-gear/gps-accuracy-gps-vs-smartphone-vs-cyclocomputer/
@@EspenFrafalne interesting. From what I have seen first hand I will stick with my garmin 64. Love that gps. Fast, and accurate.
@@SamkoTradBow I still think a GPS is a very good thing to have though... Im thinking of backpacking or bikepacking next summer, so then i need something reliable to navigate with. Im NOT good at understanding how far i have been walking in a dense forest, where i dont see many landmarks that i can recognize on a topography map... Up to 3 months battery life on the Garmin Explorer is extremely good. But im not sure if the settings required to get 3 months is useful for navigation..? But even if the GPS only lasts 1 day on decent settings, a device that only uses 2 AA batteries, is still very practical..!
@@SamkoTradBow I hear those Garmin 64 is the best ones. Thats the model i have been wanting too.
I went hunting out of state last year,,in CT. My brother in law lives there and had a place for me to hunt. I have a nice GPS handheld and it is a good thing I do. We went in during daylight and set my stand up on the side of a mountain,,I have never been there before and had no idea what the land looked like around me.I had my GPS on a recorded the stands location.
The next morning he dropped me off on the road and then he drove down the road to his stand. Now,,you all know what a place looks like in the dark compared to daylight. It was a bit careless of him but I had this under control ,,but only because I had this GPS. Without it,,this would have been a horrible idea.
I walked directly to my stand because of the tracks feature. There is NO way anyone would have been able to do this without it.
We did this for 3 days and nights. Without a issue. At the end of all this, I mentioned to him that I had a GPS,,something he did not know. And I told him,,if you ever do this again with someone else,,a GPS is so important. And exsplained to him how dangerous this was since he thought he was dropping me off blind.
Thanks for sharing that experience! Yep not only does a gps make life easier it also makes sure you make it home to your family at the end of the hunt.
@@SamkoTradBow Yep,,I mark all my stands also. I save them for years and can always go right back to the same tree if I wanted to. I do not have base camp anymore,subscription ran out, but was thinking about paying for it. Im not sure how to go about that.
The satellite image is worth the money IMO
@@5153flash if it's a Garmin's download basecamp on your computer. Then buy the birds eye imaging subscription they you gps and you can download any images for a whole uear.
Jason, please go through the hands-on steps of setting up a track log. Also using the topo maps. Your podcasts are the best.. Happy trails this fall
will try and make those happen soon. but if you have any immediate questions that you need help with call me anytime. jason@tbwpodcast.com
@Botchvinik Yep that is my email address. Yes when you buy a new garmin gps you should get a free year subscription to garmins birdseye imagery. sp you download garmin basemap to your computer, then plug in your unit, click birdseye and it will walk you thru the process of registering your gps and set up. then you can download aerial photos to your gps unit.
@Botchvinik the basecamp is for your computer and is the main area that all of your gps maps, waypoints, routes etc will all be saved. its like your home base for all you garmin devises. birdseye is a feature that allows you to download the aerial images to your gps. you do all of this in base camp. then transfer the birds eye images to your gps thru basecamp.
is this still relevant with how good OnX has become?? really curios, as I am becoming an avid hunter and starting to venture more and more off trail.
Onx is much better but a gps is still good to carry incase you drop your phone.
thanks for the response! im defiantly going to have ton invest in one here soon. Just seems pricy and with all the subscriptions required these days it makes it even less appealing for the ole buy once cry once@@SamkoTradBow
Ok ,lot of good information on your videos,I just need to know what was the larger gps called.i believe I have etrec 10 and need an update.thanks
The bigger one is the Garmin 64. It is by far the best GPS I have ever used.
Great I'm going to look for one,also rigging one of those lineman lines,,thanks again
@@erichgoodemote1158 you will love both! The Garmin 64 is excellent and the ropeman ascender lineman belt is amazing!
How do you feel about gps watches? Worth the hype?
Never used one.
Great presentation and good luck hunting!! Get-em!!
Thank you. Good luck to you as well
Thanks, summed up the questions I needed answered.
Glad you liked it
Jason could you maybe do a short tutorial on the different ways you do use the Garmin? I bought one after seeing this, and would appreciate just knowing the different things that you can do. Thanks for the consideration. BTW your hunt vourse is awesome!
That is a fantastic idea and will see what I can do. Its hard to do as I dont want people to see where my spots are etc. But might be able to mock something up.
They stopped running dual battery after that 64s I think. What models do you recommend now?
@derknizotts9162 not sure on all the new ones. I still uses these
The Etrex 20 was terrible finding stand locations in the dark in comparison to my Older Etrex with the higher sensitivity but lost accurate time and date I switched to the Garmin 64 and transferred all my years of waypoints plus you see deers movement patterns throughout the season as pressure builds up with marked Deer waypoints on the tracklog in extremely large woods phones are worthless unless I save map with OnX but really fine tune with the Garmin 64
Yep the 64 is my favorite. The etrex 20 always works great for me too. But the 64 has better sensitivity and capabilities
@@SamkoTradBow the Etrex 20 had me walking in circles to trees I marked for stand locations in the vast Pine Barrens of NJ between 2 areas of 20,000 and 30,000 acres I got bow areas as well as shotgun area once the multiple gun clubs start doing drives and favor major runs heading to a cedar swamp and a conservatory from state land with a 100% success rate every opening day .
Hey is this your most updated GPS video? What are you using now?
Yes my most up-to-date GPS vid. I still use both of these. The 64 for all my deer hunting and the 20 for down south for all my pig hunting
I been using GPS units for 18yrs the original etrex high sensitivity is better than the etrex 20 that had me going in circles trying to find my stand in the dark for a morning hunt putting scent all over the place picked up a Garmin 64 awesome unit with the antenna spent hours at home putting in numbers off the other 2 units loading it in the 64 and named areas also mark areas where I seen deer on the hoof and 10ys the track log actually shows how the deer move threw out the woods and marking downed animals that I drag to close trails so I can get the cart to find them in the dark and load them out.
Glad you like the 64! It's also my favorite
What would your suggestion be for emergency calls where there is no cell service? I hunt many times alone, I wonder sometimes what would happen if I fell, broke something,...etc... and can't get in touch with anyone. any options out there?
only been doing this for a little while, barely a "newbie" at this hunting thing.
garmin inreach, spot, or satalite phone. all are great options.
How did you make the lanyard for them
used a piece of serving thread (strong braided line for serving bow strings) thru the lanyard hole and then a piece of paracord.
Very practical perspective and overview. I am leaning towards this model, but I am curious - assuming the battery died and you swapped the batteries and rebooted - would the trail and waypoints you took from car to stand (a-b) remain? I am guessing it is saved but don't want to assume. Thanks for putting this together.
Great question! the waypoints and breadcrumbs are still stored in the memory. So when you switch batteries it fires right back up to the same thing you had when you powered it off.
Thanks for confirming - I purchased one this week.
@@theociba3762 you will love it
Awesome video . A more than useful eye-opener !
Thanks
How do you get to topo maps on the garmin?
You can buy sd cards pre loaded with tops maps or download them from online resources. Just Google garmin topo maps .
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness !Podcast ok thanks it said the sx come downloaded with them I just have to figure out how to use it I guess lol
@@stevenhicks815 that I can't help with. I never had a model that came with them preloaded. You should also have a year subscription to garmins Birdseye images. So when you load farmin Basecamp on you computer and plug your GPS in you should be able to access Birdseye images and download maps and aerial photos to your gps.
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast Awsome thank you for your help.
How long do the batteries last on those things
The constant runtimes are in their specs. But it varies depending on battery type. I know the trex 20 last about 30% longer on a set of batteries. Bit the 64 is faster, bigger and in my opinion worth it.
You’re awesome! I think you’re worthy to be on Deer & Deer Hunting magazine.. Let me talk to some folks for you.
Thanks! I think!
What is the difference between Harmon 64s and 64x?
Good question. The x is brand new this year and I do not know much about it yet.
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast to bad I don’t have money I seen it for sale today at store for 249.99
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast try and save next year and get one
@@stevenhicks815 will see! I really really love my Garmin 64s!!!!
Very informative video! Can these GPS be used for marine purposes also?
Yep sure can. You can even download nav charts, depth maps, etc.
I always make sure to get a phone with a good independent GPS so I don't need cell service. I can use a free app called MyTrails that allows me to download & cash topo's & aerials (for free) for use without cell service, but like you discussed, you have to learn the app & I haven't wanted to spend the time (there is no support) & that caused my to loose a bunch of valuable data once. Plus I have to be moving for the compass to work or use a separate one. Both of which are a pain in the dark. I wish Garmin allowed free imagery like my app dose (when I have cell service). I have an old Rino 120 which is about useless. I may have to consider a new one despite the cost. I would miss my big screen though.
Yep i have been using onx as well and like it but i still make sure to have the info backed up in my gps and honestly trust my gps more and like it better for many things. I think when you buy a new garmin you get a year free subscription to garmins birds eye imagery so you can download all your aerials and maps for free. at least for a year.
What if you wanted someone to know your location. Can they see your location
No way to send them that info thru these actual units. I think you need the inreach model for that function.
I need one to see where private property borders are in certain areas
They are so versatile and useful
@@SamkoTradBow you should show how to use the programs on a computer for us people who might need better direction to get started
@@fliguy43 I do show how to use google earth, google maps, hill maps, mytopo, etc for scouting and figuring out hunting spots in my bow hunting whitetails online course. but for how to add maps to your gps I will do that later this year when I add new maps of my new out of state hunting areas im going to.
Great Video , learned so much , thank you Sir
Thank you
Thanks - very useful
Awesome video
Thank you the Vermonter
Thanks
How is the speed of these compared to a cell phone app ? I have an old Garmin that still works but is real slow to locate you.
Depending on where you are it can take anywhere from 1-3 mins when you first turn them on. But once on they are always working in real time and fast. The garmin 64 with the external antenna has better reception in the super thick cedar swamps. but both work great. If your gps wont work your cell phone definitely wont as your cell phone uses a gps as well when out of cell service. But a garmin gps has signal long after your cell phone looses it.
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast - thank you !
can you make a video and show every one how to use the GPS and how to return using the same ruts, thank you for the good
videos.
I sure can! It will probably not be until winter before I can as I dont want to do it showing my actual hunting locations...lol and time is tight right now. But this winter I will make sure to do a video that show all of it in detail.
@@SamkoTradBow thank you sr.
Not trying to be a Debbie downer but a handheld gps doesn’t make sense to me when my phone with the OnX app does every single thing mentioned here. You just download the map for the area you are hunting prior to going out, and you can do all this from your phone.
Then you are all set and all good.
Your cell phone gps map has nothing to do with reception. It works just like any gps.
But your cell GPS sucks compared to a garmin GPS. At tleast mine does. I'll loose GPS on my phone in the swamps and have to go to my gps
To be honest, I've had the opportunity to hunt one of the most remote areas of Arizona, the Apache Sitegreaves NF, a place that is currently doing wolf reintroductions and where there has been some debate of trying to reintroduce the grizzly. Just trying to emphasize that this place is remote. That said I've had no problem using my mapping app on my phone as long as I've done the offline download and have a battery pack available to ensure the phone doesn't die. I have all my hunting maps set up and am able to update locations where I've found sign and made harvests etc. Once I get back in cell phone range I can sync any map updates I've made and can plan future hunts on my tablet or laptop, whichever I prefer. I can always be convinced if there's a good argument for dedicated GPS, but really I can't justify the additional expense considering what hunting apps can do.
Yep the apps today like onx are great. I use onx very often. I still use my GPS for all my grid searching and love the accuracy of a GPS. And I like the redundancy of having both. But you are correct. If the apps are working for you no need to buy a GPS.
We live in central New York with good cell service and have at many times had my iphone apps point me in a direction that I knew wasn’t correct. I was checking just for approximate location of points I marked previously or exact location. Pointing me in one direction then 60 yards forward showing to go the other way. We think perhaps the signal was tower jumping. At night or dark this could easily cause problems. Still don’t have a GPS though.
I use GPS when out surveying butterfly locations, record where I am.
Bob Alberta
pretty neat Bob
Offline maps for phones are unreliable too.
Says gps not used for navigation. Then says need it to navigate it back forth on the same trail. Huh. Not for navigation but need it to navigate the same trail. Am I missing something here.
Didnt say needed it to walk same trail. Explained the benefits of using it to walk the same route. Yes there is a difference. Relying on a gps because you dont have the woodsmanship skills will not help you develop those skills. But following a blue line on a gps in the dark will make sure you are not stomping all over the area with more than one very confined foot print of scent. Call it what you want but the point and benefit is pretty clear.
Traditional Bowhunting And Wilderness Podcast you did make it clear. Walk the same path so you don’t spread your scent. Aka navigation the same trail.
@@johnv7223 sorry guess I failed miserably in my wording. Wont ever happen again
Nice video
Thanks
FYI: IMHO: I had a Garmin, "Oregon 650t" GPS unit, and, I thought it was going to be a great unit, but, after trying to use it, I found it EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING, CONFUSING, INFURIATING, and ALMOST WORTHLESS, It has/had NO "Internal Map data,.... It only showed a "blank screen, with NO TOPO features, and was Practically USELESS for most of what you are talking about. And, it SUCKED POWER like Darth Vader!!!....
No experience with the touch screen GPS units. But you can buy all the Garmin with preloaded maps and with all Garmin you get a year subscription to Birdseye imaging to download all thw maps and aerial images you want of all your areas for free.
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I need it to hunt a national forest and make it out alive.
Comes in handy for that
Literally every example WAS navigation
Yep! [Laffin'😄]
I thought he was gonna say it could be used as a defibrillator or sumpthin given his clickbait slanted thumbnail. 🤣🤣
Alex Jones's little brother
ill take that as a compliment. I like alex jones.
Hey brother won't be the best and GPS for hunting in 2023
Not sure as I still use the Garmin 64. Don't know much about the new ones yet. Bit if I were to buy a new one it would be Garmin again. I've owned 6 Garmin and they have always been excellent
I'll buy one for the next world war ll hoping satellites will still be working!!
Not a bad idea
Less talking, more hands on demo please.....