Mccants told Nick to hold him down. Nick Said, what's the rules? Mccants said, 1. Make zero sense. 2. disagree with everything. 3. Never stand by previous stances you took.
@@amshia0121 it’s not that bro. I’m just saying Gil like to point out that Kenyon and played against players but strength isn’t the only part of basketball. I’m just sayin it’s a toss up and it’s crazy to say they wouldn’t struggle guarding curry or KD
@@justtone8937 u right but its not a part of basketball at all now that’s their point , only contact is if someone try to take a charge . That’s why era debates are silly . People openly know the rules have changed to help offence yet still believe the human race has evolved so much in just 20 years that an AI or a Jordan or a shaq wouldnt average more then they did when it was harder to score . But they’re hypocrites they slate bill Russell for having bad shooting percentage and all his rebounds are his own and now angel doing the same shit even worse and she’s the shit 🤷♂️
I get what Kenyon is saying. I live in Australia and watched the nba before and after lebron came in. Never watched a wnba game until Caitlin Clarke came in.
@@observeandanalyze4591 Yeah it was for that rookie season in 99. I remember people that didn't even watch basketball at the College I was going to would want to rush home at 10 o'clock from the Restaurant to catch the Highlights. I remember I did that with Wilkins and Jordan in the 80's and early 90's. It was all New to them. I'd check out Vinces highlights also at the House Parties. Also went to the Game in Dallas on December 31st 1999 Had Courtside Seats at Reunion. He had a Windmill passed from McGrady and a 360 two hand from the dotted line. Dirk had a Career High at 36 in his second season. After that game Dallas had the best Record in the NBA over the next 10 years. It's been nearly 25 years since a player like that. That's the problem with democrat run congress and government. It's been bad for the USA in the last 25 years. Dem politicians teach to not striver for high Highs. Also they even messed with the rims in the NBA and just want 3 point shooters on the loose lowered rims. Even if someone dunks now it doesn't look good on a 9'9" loose rim.
man bro i was lookin for this comment 😂 they said something like “ people wasnt watchin the nba before lebron “ as if shaq , kobe , baron davis , tayshaun prince , michael fuckin jordan , allen iverson , even gilbert wasnt playing before Bron came
Shaq is fouling out the whole team. Either he scores, draws foul or both. Lakers shot 48% from 3 which are mainly kick outs from doubles. Plus, KOBE. And who's running Pick and Rolls on the warriors to get Shaq out of position?? He'll just go under all the bigs screens.
People don’t wanna acknowledge those warriors teams were built on illegal screens. And still almost lost in 2018 before CP3 injury, and was down 20 before Kawhi injury 2017
@@Sticktothemodelsyeah the that team should have lost to the kings. Refs rigged the game they made a documentary about it and the ref came out said they rigged it
@@vante9588 They will put Shaq in all kinds of action. You can’t play zone against the warriors. He’s going to have to guard the perimeter. He can’t just stay near the rim on defense like he did back then. Kobe? What’s he gonna do? He’s not gonna make much of a difference. He can get his usual inefficient 25 pts and it wouldn’t matter.
nick is right he just suck at arguing 😂😂the ‘18 rockets are killing the ‘02 kings and ‘02 nets those aren’t even close so if the kings can take the lakers to 7 even with the refs on the lakers side the ‘18 warriors would beat the ‘01 or ‘02 lakers
@@Mb-yy7qiyour delusional asf bulls wouldn't have the offense outside of jordan to keep up igoudala draymond kd klay are slowing down pippen and kukoc. curry kd klay igoudala are outscoring and beating shaq and young kobe 🤡🤡🤡✌
Before we even get to the most dominant ever, they gotta deal with Kobe, that alone will keep things at bay. And old man Kobe used to COOK Klay Thompson.
Klay couldn’t guard a 2016 Kobe ain’t now way he guarding a 2001 Kob lmao klay getting cooked 🤷🏽♂️ shaq dunked EVERYTHING THEN gotta guard Kobe coming downhill lmao yea nah
@@nate8604 man those 2 aint winning the game by themselves, Kobe can’t chase curry and klay around screens the whole game and don’t name anybody else like derek or rick fox cause they’re getting COOKED. Then with shaq playing drop on the picks curry and Klay is eating him alive. And plus just like yall say with kobe NOBODY on that lakers team has a chance of stopping KD, so yea shaq can score however much he wants, Iggy is one of the best defenders ever he’s gonna be able to contain kobe probably not much but at least some, so yea the lakers are cooked.
@@jayellis9593 Klay not guarding Kobe, Iggy will. Now Kobe is gonna have to work hard for his shots while also trying to chase around either curry or klay while they get to rest on defense? Cmon man what we talking about
@@Jerm0116 it’s no difference when Keyon had to guard Kobe n then chase kerry kittles around . N plus you obviously don’t know about a young fisher or Devon George also ELITE Defenders that had to do the same vs a prime Parker , manu , Kidd , Reggie , Ai etc that’s not going to be a shocker tf you taking about ? You basing the warriors off 2016 n up off those defensive it’s not even close . K Martin the most experience guy here n he was saying this . Sorry your 2k experience don’t translate
Kenyon made a statement on one episode talking to Rashard McCants saying that he listens long enough to respond, instead of listening, and then responding..... Nick is doing the same thing as Rashard.... Yes, Kenyon is more aware and thinks before he speaks. Not implying that any of them are stupid (because they're not), many times they're so eager to get their point across that they are not fully listening... I also notice that Kenyon rarely wades into WNBA discussions because he knows that Lexie and to a lesser extent, Sheryl Swoops, gets triggered... Kenyon is thoughtful when speaking...
They got different takes which is WHY WE HERE, if they all thought the same the show would be wack, but i get what you mean, KENYON(Listens with the intent to UNDERSTAND, THEN RESPOND), Everybody else jump in an on go😆
@@anotherguy5780 yea you clearly didn’t watch prime shaq lmao… he was in better shape than David west or jvale was who would’ve been guarding him… and Kobe got the most defensive teams for a guard ever & fisher played elite defense against the best of them! Go do your research bud 🤣🤣🤣
Whoa...Duncan is universally regarded as the best power forward ever; he's not disrespected. The most underrated and disrespected player of all time won a title without another All Star on his team and was MVP and DPOY in that same season...his name is Hakeem Olajuwon.
Biggest difference between KG and Duncan was Duncan’s back to the basket game in crunch time. When KG would settle for jumpers Duncan would back his man down and potentially get to the free throw line. Like Gilbert said KG was passive which is why Pierce and Ray were perfect for him.
I was waiting for Nick to bring it up. That team’s centers were pretty much equal to the 2017 Warriors with less overall offensive power than the Warriors had and the Lakers still needed the refs just to get to game 7.
Durant no They can guard everyone else. Curry is just Reggie Miller with dribbling and better 3 pt shooting. Lakers seen that before but no Durant. Lakers can throw different people to deal with curry and Durant. Warriors literally cannot do anything with Shaq. And will have to deal with old West guarding shaq since javalr and green foul out by the 3rd.
I was at the Hawks vs Lakers game right before Kobe’s first big injury in 2013. It was in Atlanta. Kobe got MVP chants in the 4th from most of the crowd and I loved it as a Kobe fan. Lakers lost though but Kobe was in Mamba mode. When I watched the game over afterwards they were calling it Staples Center East 😂… RIP RHQ🕊️
Ok you saying that to say fuccin what tho like literally what’s your point so because they are talking about catlin and what angel did you have to then say she got so much to work on ? Like wtf
Right! Obviously no one can lock up Shaq but Warriors ain’t letting him score 35+ Iggy, West, Draymond, McGee are gonna make that tough as hell. All of them together were dogs. Offensively it’s not even close, they’re outscoring.
@@brianasantiago5502 yeah I really didn’t get what Gil and Kenyon was arguing. Cool Kobe and Shaq are all time scorers. But the lakers didn’t have the personal to stop The greatest scorer, The greatest shooter and the 3rd-4th greatest (klay). Plus iggy, Dray and Dwest are out there.
Curry is a bigger liability on defense than anyone in the series by a lot. Lakers are going at him on offense every time and running him ragged. That easy points for the Lakers while taking a massive amount of energy from Curry and maybe even getting him in foul trouble quickly.
This is what happens with recency bias they don’t remember when the warriors were playing you took your center out of the game because of the pick and roll shack he’s just gonna get threes all in his face and you have to sit him
Im with Nick, remember the shooting team Sacramento Kings vs Lakers, 2018 Warriors not missing all that shot. Derek Fisher , kobe bryant, rick fox would not be able to run around all game. BUT idk who guarding Shaq. If AI got one game against Shaq and Kobe then 18 warriors got a great chance. Think bout that AI was a one man crew and got one
They act like they didn’t see the Warriors play have you ever heard of a ball screens that’s the problem with saying I’m going to guard him not when you get screened.
I love Ticket, but I'm not taking him over Duncan. The Spurs won 50 games every non-lockout year he was on the team and didn't miss the playoffs once. It didn't matter who was on the team; Robinson or Tiago Splitter, Avery Johnson or Tony Parker, Sean Eliott or Bruce Bowen....he was the constant. And Ticket is my dude, but no.....
The Spurs were a 50+win organization under David Robinson. That's the organization Duncan inherited. They still won over 50 games after Duncan retired.
People in the chat who say that Gobert is the worst of all time, that his stat line is horrible etc... To then say that Ben Wallace is incredible in comparison to Gobert. Ben Wallace's stat line is worse than Gobert's and he is the worst free throw shooter in NBA history. This type of comparison to say that the other is better must stop.
yall acting like two dudes going for 90 beat 4 dudes going for 120 like wtf is this argument. Shaqs career high in the playoffs is 46 points, and yall acting like he solo's that warrios team. like wtf.
So is curry's, theirs 100 points between two dudes vs shaqs 46 and kobes 50, 100 > 96. Thinking the lakers beat that warriors team is silly asf. Lakers fans argue no one can guard shaq meanwhile no one is guarding KD or steph. Take your nuts out of kobe's mouth and think analytically
@@julesfenn6961no it wouldn't warriors had a great defense draymond igoudala kd are slowing down young kobe and shaq would get cooked on pick and rolls and on the fast break warriors had a lethal fast paced offense curry kd klay igoudala is too much offensive firepower for any team to handle ✌
Caitlin already had millions of viewers before she played angel. Angel didn't even do anything to Caitlin till the game was over but 10 million ppl were already watching. Caitlin didn't need angel. Angel needed caitlin.
True, They are certainly a top 7 or 8 Team of All Time. They had everything. Maybe the Best Center ever. maybe the Best SF point forward ever in his prime. Also had Tony Parker who is a top 7 or 8 Career at Point Guard. Duncan was still in his prime so was Parker. They had a Good bench also.
@@JimBrave-ri1oc😂😂no one on the 14-Spurs were in their prime. They aren't a top 10 team of all-time. Kawhi isn't LeBron or Bird level. Duncan isn't the best center especially not 2014 Duncan, Manu was washed. Parker was arguably their best player.
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 😂😂😂 Prime is any player in their 3rd season to 3rd to last season. That was all of the Spurs. Prime is also anywhere without 50% of their Career ppg high. Yet you're so dumb you think a prime is only one season and the season they have to average over 28 ppg. Primes are anywhere from 10ppg and up. Duncan was 15 ppg. That is Prime. that is the SAME amount that Jordan averaged in the 1992 Olympics if you get The Logic there. Kawhi averaged more than Jordan in the 92 Olympics Parker averaged more than Barkley in the 92 Olympics. If you Get my Logic. The spurs were the DREAM TEAM. Duncan was Ewing. Parker was Jordan, Kawhi was Pippen. Ginobili was Drexler Drexler averages 12 ppg Ginobili averaged 12 ppg. Same. The problem with Miami is they didn't share they were in their prime but they were not balanced and didn't pass to players like Allen, or Bosh. James would've won had he played like a True Prime player and lowered his ppg by choice to pass to Allen more James would've won had he averaged 10 ppg and that would've been A TRUE PRIME PLAYER playing the best ever. Yet you would say he's not prime cause he didn't chuck a billion shots. Shows you suck at basketball. I'd never pick a dumb chucker like you. All of the Spurs were in their BEST PRIME EVER!!!!! Proven by the way they had BALANCE on the Scoring. they swept lebron, wade, bosh and Allen.
clark was the biggest name in college ball before they played lsu .... reese made her name off beating the biggest name in college..... had lsu lost reese would not have the brand she does now ...clark still would
What they fail to realize the Warriors offense is defense, they forget what they saw, when they were knocking down threes your crowd was cheering and it got in the head of the of the home team. They fail to realize who is Shaq guarding on the fast break it’s a three. One more thing there is a reason they had hack a Shaq, as soon as they threw the ball in you fouled him and he put them on the line he shot under 50% you cannot trade one for three.
To their point her impact was only felt fr AFTER her championship run in college and they had to see LSU that run is what made her impactful compared to bron who EVERYONE knew and impacted the ceiling for show contracts for non professional hoopers since he got such a bag in highschool
@@Yoannan_I didn’t they stop players coming from highschool like two years later so I don’t see how that really changed people getting their bag before getting drafted, but nil definitely did that not lebron
Bruhhh I know ima have a good laugh when Nick is in the show gotta love when the no filter comes on the show plus it’s always good to have Kenyon kryptonite to get some good laughs
It’s so amazing to see Gil having success on his Channel by just talking amongst his friends. That’s the American Dream.
Never thought anyone would have crazier takes than Rashad until Nick showed up
Mccants told Nick to hold him down. Nick Said, what's the rules? Mccants said, 1. Make zero sense. 2. disagree with everything. 3. Never stand by previous stances you took.
Big facts 😂
@@CoopCollinsbro I’m in tears 😂😂😂😂😂
& always always I mean always disagree w gil n argue w him ! Lolol
Warriors would beat lakers though. Y’all just delusional.
Swaggy P needs to get scanned for something lol
He gets on Gils nerves and it’s hilarious
@@michaelscottpapercompany6191 it's crazy to be born 6 nine and have the awareness of an elementary schooler
He got the record for tallest man with Down Syndrome ✊🏾
Deadass g him n mccants same level lmao
bro the only basketball player with CTE
This arena "EXPLODES" and "ERUPTS" every day sheesh
Lazy ass interns 😂
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That’s good debating
What you want Jerry Lawler type intros or some ? It’s a RUclips caption lmao tf y’all complain like women 🤣
They sure be sitting on top of a volcano or sumn😂😂
Kenyon and Swaggy P gonna throw hands on the show one day, I feel it😂😂😂
kmart be tryna talk to grown men like they kids
WHHHO WON
Kmart gonna beat him down! Lol
@@christopherchilton8931Yeah I give Kmart the dub on that one lol. A fight of words on a particular topic, Swaggy P all day 👊 😂
Nick annoying he can just stay home
They always say Nick didn’t play against shaq but neither one of them played against unanimous mvp Steph or KD 😂😂
Talk to em😂😂
Because you can see how good they are and what they can do , Shaq is something you have to feel they never played someone so strong and physical .
@@amshia0121 it’s not that bro. I’m just saying Gil like to point out that Kenyon and played against players but strength isn’t the only part of basketball. I’m just sayin it’s a toss up and it’s crazy to say they wouldn’t struggle guarding curry or KD
@@justtone8937 u right but its not a part of basketball at all now that’s their point , only contact is if someone try to take a charge . That’s why era debates are silly . People openly know the rules have changed to help offence yet still believe the human race has evolved so much in just 20 years that an AI or a Jordan or a shaq wouldnt average more then they did when it was harder to score . But they’re hypocrites they slate bill Russell for having bad shooting percentage and all his rebounds are his own and now angel doing the same shit even worse and she’s the shit 🤷♂️
@@amshia0121 I agree to that fasho it is pointless. That’s crazy angel doing the same shii bill did😂😂
R.I.P. RICH HOMIE QUAN
Ig 🤷🏽♂️
Wait he died?
@@jamarsimpson1390you cornball
@@africandude7583Yes man🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Who the hell is that gang
Kmart so close to saying that his Nets would beat them Warriors 😂😂😂
Pure delusion just to excuse him losing I hate that everybody always act like who ever they lost to was the greatest
Kmart got hurt when nick said they swept yall but went to game 7 with sac😂😂
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Nah I'm rollin wit Swaggy today.. 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭 I am cryin over here.. "I wish Pejacavich would stay in front of Harden" is fuckin CLASSIC 💀💀💀💀
Crazy part he not guarding him Doug C is . If klay could guard him where harden flop every 4th Doug C an elite defender.
Yea idk y SWAGGY put his first and last name together 😂😭🤣 its definitely separate😆
Kenyon’s 100% right about Ben Simmons. He plays basketball cause he’s good at it. He doesn’t love it though. Not enough to be an NBA player.
Nick Young brings a new level of ignorance to the arena.
it’s almost impressive icl
I call it GENIUS, NICK and MCCANTS bring UNPOPULAR opinions amd STAND ON THEM, whethe they believ em or not, its entertaining content
Nah it’s entertainment 😂 him and mccants
@@ideozublake8036this is what I was thinking. Lmao
Kenyon is the only one that doesnt flip flop and he understands questions asked and explains his point.
"Alright fuck it pendakovic or klay!?"😂
Gil and Nick whispering to each other like they're not mic'd up 😂
they not hipp🤣 b-jennings palm his everytime
I get what Kenyon is saying. I live in Australia and watched the nba before and after lebron came in. Never watched a wnba game until Caitlin Clarke came in.
What early 2000s wnba was poppin.Kmart tripping
@@Damari90Caitlin has impacted viewership greater than anyone
@@Damari90 Nobody cares, because CC didn't play then.
EXACTLY!!!!! 💯
I live in America. I watched basketball for the first time in my life because of LeBron.
Nick a generational troll 😂
Saying the KD-Warriors would win over the Shaq-Lakers isn't trolling.
@@penkima4923 Majority of the points he used were topical troll shit
@@penkima4923wasn’t talking about that but go off
Ain’t no team in history stopping them KD Warriors they were a cheat code
yet... they were already stopped....(injuries are a part of game, so we don't have to go down that road)
@@justhere2travelmost unstoppable team in history, when healthy I guess then huh
@@justhere2travel you know what they were talking about
@@justhere2travelthat’s not stopped lol head up vs any team I can’t really see them losing
Lou will took them 6 games
Vince Carter rookie season was insane . That jersey is one of the most sold ever lol
No it's not
@@observeandanalyze4591 Yeah it was for that rookie season in 99. I remember people that didn't even watch basketball at the College I was going to would want to rush home at 10 o'clock from the Restaurant to catch the Highlights. I remember I did that with Wilkins and Jordan in the 80's and early 90's. It was all New to them. I'd check out Vinces highlights also at the House Parties. Also went to the Game in Dallas on December 31st 1999 Had Courtside Seats at Reunion. He had a Windmill passed from McGrady and a 360 two hand from the dotted line. Dirk had a Career High at 36 in his second season. After that game Dallas had the best Record in the NBA over the next 10 years.
It's been nearly 25 years since a player like that. That's the problem with democrat run congress and government. It's been bad for the USA in the last 25 years. Dem politicians teach to not striver for high Highs. Also they even messed with the rims in the NBA and just want 3 point shooters on the loose lowered rims. Even if someone dunks now it doesn't look good on a 9'9" loose rim.
We don’t care about Vince 😂 mans an underachiever
@@observeandanalyze4591yes it is
@@observeandanalyze4591 it literally is, the Purple raptors jersey is one of the most sold NBA jerseys of all time.
Pendokovic and vallet divac the sac town legends
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Nick in there sounding like (rob Parker) 😂😂😂 cut him off them drinks 😅😅😅
Jennings is all of us watching this 😂😂😂
Ong 😂😂😂😂
😂 steph klay and kd averaged more than 60. Closer to 80 points in total
Closer to 70 but still that’s 3 against 2 and they almost cover lol
Nick b having Kenyon mad af😂😂😂😂
1:42:00
Nick gotta be on every episode with brother knowledge 😂😂😂
Facts but brother knowledge would go insane
Who is Brother Knowledge?
@@KByrd80 Kenyon Martin 😂😂 nick called him that like 2 months ago.
What part of the video was that
Kmart just be yelling,,,
He be right though 😂
Sometimes they are so slow it’s crazy 😀”she didn’t impact my life”😂😂😂😃
man bro i was lookin for this comment 😂 they said something like “ people wasnt watchin the nba before lebron “ as if shaq , kobe , baron davis , tayshaun prince , michael fuckin jordan , allen iverson , even gilbert wasnt playing before Bron came
“WHO WON”
-Kmart 😂😂😂
annoying as hell😂
Shi got on my nerves
@@kcdre3432 nah he hilarious asf.... bro comedy
tim donaghy won
They deadass didn’t even talk about the klay topic AT ALL 😭😭
No one could guard shaq. We get that. No one would be able to guard curry and kd too.
Shaq is fouling out the whole team. Either he scores, draws foul or both. Lakers shot 48% from 3 which are mainly kick outs from doubles. Plus, KOBE. And who's running Pick and Rolls on the warriors to get Shaq out of position?? He'll just go under all the bigs screens.
People don’t wanna acknowledge those warriors teams were built on illegal screens. And still almost lost in 2018 before CP3 injury, and was down 20 before Kawhi injury 2017
@@Sticktothemodelsyeah the that team should have lost to the kings. Refs rigged the game they made a documentary about it and the ref came out said they rigged it
Let him get his lmao the warriors are dropping 70 in a half
@@Infinitefuture6👀?
@@vante9588 They will put Shaq in all kinds of action. You can’t play zone against the warriors. He’s going to have to guard the perimeter. He can’t just stay near the rim on defense like he did back then. Kobe? What’s he gonna do? He’s not gonna make much of a difference. He can get his usual inefficient 25 pts and it wouldn’t matter.
nick is right he just suck at arguing 😂😂the ‘18 rockets are killing the ‘02 kings and ‘02 nets those aren’t even close so if the kings can take the lakers to 7 even with the refs on the lakers side the ‘18 warriors would beat the ‘01 or ‘02 lakers
Steph, Klay, KD, West, Shaun, Iggy, Dray, Boogie, McGee. STACKED.
@@brianasantiago5502And still wouldn't beat any team AIR JORDAN👅 had & plus Kobe and Shaq
Facts
@siimbax2 18 Rockets are killing the kings how exactly? Lou will took the warriors 6 games so that clippers team is one of the greatest ever I guess
@@Mb-yy7qiyour delusional asf bulls wouldn't have the offense outside of jordan to keep up igoudala draymond kd klay are slowing down pippen and kukoc. curry kd klay igoudala are outscoring and beating shaq and young kobe 🤡🤡🤡✌
Swaggy had some valid points…
Kenyon just yell over all his points tho
@@alldaydre1448he didn’t make a single valid point lol
@@destindavis459 I don’t think he finished a sentence
@@destindavis459caitlin has had a bigger impact over Bron
@@destindavis459not one
Kenyon talking about shaq like the warriors don’t have 3 people who can give you 60 at any moment.
Before we even get to the most dominant ever, they gotta deal with Kobe, that alone will keep things at bay. And old man Kobe used to COOK Klay Thompson.
Klay couldn’t guard a 2016 Kobe ain’t now way he guarding a 2001 Kob lmao klay getting cooked 🤷🏽♂️ shaq dunked EVERYTHING THEN gotta guard Kobe coming downhill lmao yea nah
@@nate8604 man those 2 aint winning the game by themselves, Kobe can’t chase curry and klay around screens the whole game and don’t name anybody else like derek or rick fox cause they’re getting COOKED. Then with shaq playing drop on the picks curry and Klay is eating him alive. And plus just like yall say with kobe NOBODY on that lakers team has a chance of stopping KD, so yea shaq can score however much he wants, Iggy is one of the best defenders ever he’s gonna be able to contain kobe probably not much but at least some, so yea the lakers are cooked.
@@jayellis9593 Klay not guarding Kobe, Iggy will. Now Kobe is gonna have to work hard for his shots while also trying to chase around either curry or klay while they get to rest on defense? Cmon man what we talking about
@@Jerm0116 it’s no difference when Keyon had to guard Kobe n then chase kerry kittles around . N plus you obviously don’t know about a young fisher or Devon George also ELITE Defenders that had to do the same vs a prime Parker , manu , Kidd , Reggie , Ai etc that’s not going to be a shocker tf you taking about ? You basing the warriors off 2016 n up off those defensive it’s not even close . K Martin the most experience guy here n he was saying this . Sorry your 2k experience don’t translate
Livingston middy off the bench didn’t get a honorable mention 😢
Kenyon Martin knew he lost about the greatest team debate when he keep repeating "who won" knowing Nick Young is right
Facts😂😂 he wouldn’t even let Nick talk
Except Nick ws wrong af!!! Lol you can tell when ppl were born. Nothing ever happened until they saw it. Shaq would've avg 50 on GS
@@tarrekbaldwin8968and curry and KD gonna avg 40 each
@@tarrekbaldwin8968 brooo i grew up with Shaq in Orlando and doesnt matter whats your age everything is recorded 🤣🤣🤣
@toneworld1039 so I guess Kobe didn't show up. Most all defense teams as a guard. Wtf yall be smoking so I can stay away from it?
It's glaringly apparent Kenyon Martin graduated college talking to these dummies.
YES!!! It’s super-obvious!!!
Kenyon made a statement on one episode talking to Rashard McCants saying that he listens long enough to respond, instead of listening, and then responding.....
Nick is doing the same thing as Rashard....
Yes, Kenyon is more aware and thinks before he speaks.
Not implying that any of them are stupid (because they're not), many times they're so eager to get their point across that they are not fully listening...
I also notice that Kenyon rarely wades into WNBA discussions because he knows that Lexie and to a lesser extent, Sheryl Swoops, gets triggered...
Kenyon is thoughtful when speaking...
They got different takes which is WHY WE HERE, if they all thought the same the show would be wack, but i get what you mean, KENYON(Listens with the intent to UNDERSTAND, THEN RESPOND), Everybody else jump in an on go😆
Very true, Kenyon asks may I hear the question again, then states it to the rest of them to give them a chance to understand.
not really k mart takes forever to get point across rambles too much and yells over his points 😂 ✌
22:28 Magic had the biggest impact ever as a rookie. RoY, Finals MVP, saved the league by creating a rivalry w Larry Legend.
I’m with Nick on that John Wick analogy 😂😂😂
Kenyon is the only bro that understood the question without all up on his feeling… he’s too real for this show
Facts
Ehh he yell too much.. shaq gon get fouled fosho but he not hitting them fts
bro what are you on abt he was literally just yelling over nick like a child for no reason get off his sack
@@younglord777😂😂 damn
Fuck no repeating the same question and yelling/stuttering Kenyon by far the worst on this show.
They act like shaq wouldn't pick up tons of fouls himself 😂. He was burrowing over dudes and getting offensive fouls.
Exactly lol as a warriors fan draymond and Shaq probably bith fouling out
Ain’t no threat in the paint for shaq to foul out 🤣
@@Nick_a_ra_gua stamina is shaqs threat lmao. They would have ran his big axx to sleep 😂. They gotta play defense too, boss
@@anotherguy5780 yea you clearly didn’t watch prime shaq lmao… he was in better shape than David west or jvale was who would’ve been guarding him… and Kobe got the most defensive teams for a guard ever & fisher played elite defense against the best of them! Go do your research bud 🤣🤣🤣
@@anotherguy5780 shaq slows the game down cuz you have to foul him… they can’t just run like they did against the cavs 🤣
1:41:53
Tim duncan is the single most disrespected AND underrated player of all time
Whoa...Duncan is universally regarded as the best power forward ever; he's not disrespected. The most underrated and disrespected player of all time won a title without another All Star on his team and was MVP and DPOY in that same season...his name is Hakeem Olajuwon.
He boring
@@KCFlightClub10give me boring while winning 🏆 everytime
@@brooklynblack9015kg better
Top 10
Biggest difference between KG and Duncan was Duncan’s back to the basket game in crunch time. When KG would settle for jumpers Duncan would back his man down and potentially get to the free throw line. Like Gilbert said KG was passive which is why Pierce and Ray were perfect for him.
Seems like nobody wanted to bring up that rigged game 6 in ‘02
Not one person
I was waiting for Nick to bring it up. That team’s centers were pretty much equal to the 2017 Warriors with less overall offensive power than the Warriors had and the Lakers still needed the refs just to get to game 7.
That laugh in the background when he said willie caullie stein lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Swaggy P is WILD. Feetwork is crazy work!!!
Say all the Shaq stuff you want but 3 is worth more than 2 and they have no answer for Steph or KD
Lowkey
Durant no
They can guard everyone else. Curry is just Reggie Miller with dribbling and better 3 pt shooting. Lakers seen that before but no Durant.
Lakers can throw different people to deal with curry and Durant.
Warriors literally cannot do anything with Shaq. And will have to deal with old West guarding shaq since javalr and green foul out by the 3rd.
Every player’s rookie year from Duke and Michigan was impactful in the 80s and 90s!
1:03:38 lmfao ..." please dont give me that award"😂😂😂 nick be having me rollin
It's cool she's recognized in the WNBA but Don't yall forget her hype started in College!!
I was at the Hawks vs Lakers game right before Kobe’s first big injury in 2013. It was in Atlanta. Kobe got MVP chants in the 4th from most of the crowd and I loved it as a Kobe fan. Lakers lost though but Kobe was in Mamba mode. When I watched the game over afterwards they were calling it Staples Center East 😂… RIP RHQ🕊️
Angel Reese has so much to work on. Footwork, layups, jump shots, motor off a missed shot etc
Ok you saying that to say fuccin what tho like literally what’s your point so because they are talking about catlin and what angel did you have to then say she got so much to work on ? Like wtf
@@pumathegod2554not a comma or period in sight
@pumathegod2554 why you so pressed
@@SugginCahk this is social media and you did read it without a period or comma right ? …tf out my face
Catlin needs a lot of help on defense she only pass and shoot she needs to develop more in her game
Nick isn’t wrong about the Warriors vs Lakers… but he’s the wrong person to make the argument🤣
Right! Obviously no one can lock up Shaq but Warriors ain’t letting him score 35+ Iggy, West, Draymond, McGee are gonna make that tough as hell. All of them together were dogs. Offensively it’s not even close, they’re outscoring.
@@brianasantiago5502 yeah I really didn’t get what Gil and Kenyon was arguing. Cool Kobe and Shaq are all time scorers. But the lakers didn’t have the personal to stop The greatest scorer, The greatest shooter and the 3rd-4th greatest (klay). Plus iggy, Dray and Dwest are out there.
And they didn’t even talk about Livingston who I didn’t see miss a middy all that year😂😂
your dumb too
Curry is a bigger liability on defense than anyone in the series by a lot. Lakers are going at him on offense every time and running him ragged. That easy points for the Lakers while taking a massive amount of energy from Curry and maybe even getting him in foul trouble quickly.
Kings played the same type of ball the Warriors played…👀 and the Lakers struggled. Needed a little help in Game 6 too
Good points
Kings had a dominant big man, true PG in Mike bibby, and a underrated big in Divac and a pretty deep bench.
Oh those refs helped big time.
This is what happens with recency bias they don’t remember when the warriors were playing you took your center out of the game because of the pick and roll shack he’s just gonna get threes all in his face and you have to sit him
Kelsey Plum broke the record and where’s her impact??
Who cares
She's ass
@@ACarter87Damn AC
2 time champ
Who is she ?
CC impact is as great as Jordan had in the nba. Simple thing before CC even Gil arena wasn't discussing wnba.
He did. He said they should wear bikinis years ago like them women who play tackle football in the same attire. 😂😂😂
Tiger Woods impact is unquestioned despite the PGA before his arrival being nothing compared the major sports leagues in the US.
2:19:29 Kenyon screaming 'JUAN' at Nick, had me dying 😂
We ain’t gotta argue put the series on 2k25 to end the debate. Warriors in 6
That's what they get paid to do
1:25:40 “we not playing golf, we playin football. Tf you talking bout” 😂😂😂😂
Swaggy P don't know when to stop talking! I know he gave his teachers hell!
Kenyon always bringing up that sweep of the pistons but don’t say shit about lakers sweep 😵💫
Yall taking Peja over Klay is madness
Bro I’m crying he said draymond would have stole on Kenyon an said stfu 😂😂
Aye I lost it then😂😂😂
They don’t know what impact means only K and Josiah does
Get off Dick
They talk about her every day😂😂😂
Kenyon told us he averaged 22 in the finals 82 times because that sweep Nick mentioned touched his soul 😂😂
the thing was that Tim Duncan was lethal in the low block
And he had a nasty 15-18 footer
and a better rim protector
Nick crazy as hell for calling Peja Stojakovic out of his name
Im with Nick, remember the shooting team Sacramento Kings vs Lakers, 2018 Warriors not missing all that shot. Derek Fisher , kobe bryant, rick fox would not be able to run around all game. BUT idk who guarding Shaq. If AI got one game against Shaq and Kobe then 18 warriors got a great chance. Think bout that AI was a one man crew and got one
Salute to Gil's Arena!! You are appreciated!! Respect and Blessings!!
David west would’ve been shooting Shaq face off
they should have did a poll
If Rudy had one dpoy he’s still getting into the HOF before they consider KMart😂
When nick said thats cause you was too angry i spit my watee out
KENYON and Gil are WRONG. KD steph and draymond were the best at getting bugs to switch on them . Shaq would be FOULED OUT
They act like they didn’t see the Warriors play have you ever heard of a ball screens that’s the problem with saying I’m going to guard him not when you get screened.
I love Ticket, but I'm not taking him over Duncan. The Spurs won 50 games every non-lockout year he was on the team and didn't miss the playoffs once. It didn't matter who was on the team; Robinson or Tiago Splitter, Avery Johnson or Tony Parker, Sean Eliott or Bruce Bowen....he was the constant. And Ticket is my dude, but no.....
Duncan was drafted into the perfect scenario.
Kg all day
The Spurs were a 50+win organization under David Robinson. That's the organization Duncan inherited. They still won over 50 games after Duncan retired.
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 How many titles did they win after Duncan retired? How many Finals did they go to after he retired?
Timmy D is his father.
Kenyon can’t make a single point about any topic without turning it into a screaming match 🤣🙉
People in the chat who say that Gobert is the worst of all time, that his stat line is horrible etc... To then say that Ben Wallace is incredible in comparison to Gobert. Ben Wallace's stat line is worse than Gobert's and he is the worst free throw shooter in NBA history. This type of comparison to say that the other is better must stop.
exactly
Brandon Jennings really do agree with whoever beside him fr lol EVERYTIME
Shaq never scored 50 in a playoff game never
Stat man stat man
He didn’t have to
Didn’t need to
@@deelewis8061He had Hardway, Kobe n then Wade of course he didn’t 😭
@@jamesprall9964 he try
"He the Block Champ"
Nick with the mic drop...
yall acting like two dudes going for 90 beat 4 dudes going for 120 like wtf is this argument. Shaqs career high in the playoffs is 46 points, and yall acting like he solo's that warrios team. like wtf.
Kd is 50 points saying it like it so much higher is crazy , that triangle offense would have been fucking them up lol
So is curry's, theirs 100 points between two dudes vs shaqs 46 and kobes 50, 100 > 96. Thinking the lakers beat that warriors team is silly asf. Lakers fans argue no one can guard shaq meanwhile no one is guarding KD or steph.
Take your nuts out of kobe's mouth and think analytically
@@julesfenn6961no it wouldn't warriors had a great defense draymond igoudala kd are slowing down young kobe and shaq would get cooked on pick and rolls and on the fast break warriors had a lethal fast paced offense curry kd klay igoudala is too much offensive firepower for any team to handle ✌
Nick is comedy gold on this show…Thursdays are must see tv 🤣🤣
They talked too much and loud at the same time.
The point is the Warriors cooking all the the teams the Lakers barely won against😂
Ion care Kobe & Shaq might drop 40 each but they not beating the warriors 😂😂😂😂
Caitlin already had millions of viewers before she played angel. Angel didn't even do anything to Caitlin till the game was over but 10 million ppl were already watching. Caitlin didn't need angel. Angel needed caitlin.
People forget about that Spurs team that destroyed the Miami Heat. They should be mentioned in that convo
True, They are certainly a top 7 or 8 Team of All Time. They had everything. Maybe the Best Center ever. maybe the Best SF point forward ever in his prime. Also had Tony Parker who is a top 7 or 8 Career at Point Guard. Duncan was still in his prime so was Parker. They had a Good bench also.
@@JimBrave-ri1oc😂😂no one on the 14-Spurs were in their prime. They aren't a top 10 team of all-time. Kawhi isn't LeBron or Bird level. Duncan isn't the best center especially not 2014 Duncan, Manu was washed. Parker was arguably their best player.
@@sideshowbobsaget8876 😂😂😂 Prime is any player in their 3rd season to 3rd to last season. That was all of the Spurs. Prime is also anywhere without 50% of their Career ppg high. Yet you're so dumb you think a prime is only one season and the season they have to average over 28 ppg. Primes are anywhere from 10ppg and up. Duncan was 15 ppg. That is Prime. that is the SAME amount that Jordan averaged in the 1992 Olympics if you get The Logic there.
Kawhi averaged more than Jordan in the 92 Olympics
Parker averaged more than Barkley in the 92 Olympics.
If you Get my Logic. The spurs were the DREAM TEAM. Duncan was Ewing. Parker was Jordan, Kawhi was Pippen. Ginobili was Drexler Drexler averages 12 ppg Ginobili averaged 12 ppg. Same.
The problem with Miami is they didn't share they were in their prime but they were not balanced and didn't pass to players like Allen, or Bosh. James would've won had he played like a True Prime player and lowered his ppg by choice to pass to Allen more James would've won had he averaged 10 ppg and that would've been A TRUE PRIME PLAYER playing the best ever. Yet you would say he's not prime cause he didn't chuck a billion shots. Shows you suck at basketball. I'd never pick a dumb chucker like you.
All of the Spurs were in their BEST PRIME EVER!!!!! Proven by the way they had BALANCE on the Scoring. they swept lebron, wade, bosh and Allen.
I noticed Kmart like to wait to see what Gil say first
I’m with B. Jennings 1000% Caitlyn Clark. It’s at least 3-5 more impactful NBA players in the Modern era
Impact on who / what? I think he and by extension you may have missed what they were trying to gauge fr
@@AdamEdnimpact on her league
@@yusefnegao oh then there aren’t 3-5 modern nba equivalents.
Rick Fox curl gone be swinging was crazy work Swaggy was needed on this show 😂
clark was the biggest name in college ball before they played lsu .... reese made her name off beating the biggest name in college..... had lsu lost reese would not have the brand she does now ...clark still would
What they fail to realize the Warriors offense is defense, they forget what they saw, when they were knocking down threes your crowd was cheering and it got in the head of the of the home team. They fail to realize who is Shaq guarding on the fast break it’s a three. One more thing there is a reason they had hack a Shaq, as soon as they threw the ball in you fouled him and he put them on the line he shot under 50% you cannot trade one for three.
BJ & Swaggy act they don’t get the impact of Catlin Clark for the wnba lol
She didn’t have an impact on me said BJ, my reaction was like what?
@@yusefnegao for real I’m like bro is y’all for real
@@daoriginalpeople128 where is rashad? We need him
To their point her impact was only felt fr AFTER her championship run in college and they had to see LSU that run is what made her impactful compared to bron who EVERYONE knew and impacted the ceiling for show contracts for non professional hoopers since he got such a bag in highschool
@@Yoannan_I didn’t they stop players coming from highschool like two years later so I don’t see how that really changed people getting their bag before getting drafted, but nil definitely did that not lebron
The fact the argument is based on foul and free throws when they have a ref confirmed that he cheated in the Lakers favor is crazy
exactly gil and k mart are clueless knuckleheads 😂
Usually love swaggy p but I instantly found another vid after that early take
Bruhhh I know ima have a good laugh when Nick is in the show gotta love when the no filter comes on the show plus it’s always good to have Kenyon kryptonite to get some good laughs