We don't often pray at the alter of High output, but if you own an M18 drill - these are actually worth their weight and then some amzn.to/3nVeFRA. I don't expect this will be the last Hercules we will test at this rate of results. Some aren't great (new 12V cut-off for instance, we've found) but others really seem to put a hurt on other top brands. Make your suggestions!
Could you run the kobalt hammer drill? I've had mine for about 3 years now and it's still kicking. Curious how it compares to these others. I bought a combo set (1/4in driver and a hammer drill) for $200 3 years ago. I use them both almost daily as an industrial maintenance tech and they have been great for me. It is about time for me to upgrade though and I'm not sure if I should stick to kobalt or go with Hercules...
The premium Harbor Freight hand tools are outstanding; but they only have the premium version of some mechanic's tools, like sockets, wrenches, and ratchets. I have some of their ratchets that Iv'e been using for 9 years, and they are very tight and precise. They also have a "premium" version of air tools, which are as good as anything on the market. I have one of their expensive composite air impact wrenches, and it absolutely screams, and will remove just about any fastener.. It appears that they have at least 3 different lines of power tools now too, the Chicago Electric (trash), the Bauer (trash) and the Hercules (very good). And welders: Chicago Electric (trash), the Titanium (very good) and the Vulcan (commercial quality with a long warranty). I have a Vulcan Tig welder, and it's built like a tank. You have to pay for their premium tools, or you won't get a useful product.
When I use to do electrical work. I had a 18 volt Hercules 1/4 inch impact driver. I dropped it off 12 foot ladders, 30 ft flight of steps, all kinds of tough places. I put the Milwaukee fuel brushless to shame. That was like 4 years ago.
I started hitting harbor freight before home depot for tools. I know they are not the best but everything changed when I bought like 14 dollar grinder made by Hercules and until today its still running. Heavily used grinder.
Not a dumb question at all. We have in 3 seperate cases in cordless impacts, in the M18 2767's case we've bought 3 and tested another heavily used 1 that was not ours. We've also done it with a cordless cut-off tool we happen to have 2 of (DeWALT, because it's so good). And this gen 3 M18 drill we actually have more than one of as well just from drilling all kinds of stuff. So far in all of those cases the results have been boring because they all make the same numbers, I think in two cases we've shown this on camera: The Rigid Octane in our 2nd purchase of it when Max Output came out, and the M18 2767 when we borrowed that one the guy used as a wrecking ball in a junk yard. I'm sure there are differences out there, but it might take a pallet of tools from various brands to find them.
TTC has become my absolute favorite YT channel. I heard your voice across a restaurant the other day and I instantly looked up from my food, peered around the room, and said "Who's watching TTC????" lol😁
Hercules has a starter kit that includes the drill or impact driver with a 2ah battery and charger for about $100, that' hard to beat. Granted the 2ah isn't ideal but it's useful for sure. I bought the impact driver and I couldn't be happier with it so far.
@@straysavages1961 I just picked up this tool and a 5ah battery and charger for $99.... Going to pick up another battery, charger, and impact in June parking lot sale and get this... Can return the charger for a partial $22 credit making... $77!
I'm rewatching this episode 11 months since it's release and HF has been running a Hercules sale 3 AH charger 5 AH battery and tool for $99 for the last 3 months. To next level that $199 kit price the same sale you could also get another 3AH charger 5AH battery and then choose an 8AH extreme performance battery combined total $198. You can believe I've started patiently replacing my yellow tools/batteries with blue from the Freight.
Lately they have been having a sale where you buy the battery and charger starter kit and get this tool for free along with many other tools available bringing the total price down to 119.99. pretty amazing stuff considering it outperforms all my dewault and milwalkee stuff.
As an electrician trainee working on a budget this is excellent news. I can keep the rigid tools that I baby at home and absolutely abuse a set of hercules tools, knowing I have 5 years to yeet them across job sites.
Like a beater car or truck... and most people aren't going to get all excited about swiping a Hercules too off a job site either, but a nice orange, red, or yellow tool on the other hand.
Congrats to Hercules! This is great because it inspires competition. I imagine Milwaukee will be creating some type of stacked lithium at some point. I was able to get that Hercules 20% off last weekend, glad I did.
@@CrudeBuster You mean hey made the China-made Hercules better than the China-made Milwaukee, and possibly better than the "made with global components" DeWalt? 🤣
Another vote for Kobalt XTR. I'm in dewalt and kobalt batteries so I'm hoping for a better showing compared to that dewalt you did. I'm still running the old non-xtr drill.
Yep I had the XTR first and old timers told me m18 would smoke it. I didn't understand how anyone could want more torque because that thing will rip your arm right off. Started using the m18 gen3 and there isn't nearly the power under load.
@@ThaNinjaSeal Yeah, I have the M12 Fuel gen2 and I have to be careful when it breaks through metal. I wouldn’t mind a handle for it. I haven’t seen a need for M18 yet.
Used to have a few hercules , never had any issues. That being said, when I had the money - I upgraded to the kobalt. Have to say, for home use, I've never had a problem w them - been very reliable tools.
Schocking to see that the HO batteries make so much differents. Now i am wondering how the smaller/lighter HO 3.0 runs against the 5.0 & 6.0 Ah batteries
I think it was the compact m18 impact wrench where the 3.0 ho and the xc5.0 performed very similar. I assumed it'd ve very similar for the impact driver and drill, been loving the size and weight savings. Ounces equal pounds
I finally realized what you timer chime reminds me of. I had a 91 Honda accord back in the day and the key in the ignition chime sounds identical to your timer chime.
This plus the 1/4in Hercules impact driver are making me consider just picking a few of these up to have as extras if we get a new guy who needs a drill to borrow. I like that Harbor Freight is remaining cheap and also actually attempting (and not doing bad at all) to compete. Good for them.
I bought the prior gen Hercules drill in a bind. In a kit with carrying case, charger and one 5ah battery for $95. This thing prove well worth the cost when it put a 2 inch Lennox BiMetal holesaw through 1/4 inch plate steel 8 times on a single charge!
Well done, I'm always impressed with both the quality and delivery of these videos! For a request, I'd be very interested in Kobalt's XTR and Next Gen drills paired each with a standard 4ah battery and their 4ah ultimate output battery.
I'm really curious to see how rigid fits in. Also, some rigid and Ryobi models look almost identical, so I'd be curious to know if they do perform identically.
Both brands are made by TTI (who also makes Milwaukee), so they're probably very similarly constructed, if not identical, apart from the case colors. Usually there are some small differences, though.
I really would like to know how the full size Ridgid Octane fairs as the tq was rated so high. I don't think they make a new version that is rated like the Octane.
I'm currently working toward replacing all my Milwaukee tools with Hercules 20v brushless. I've been hanging on to my Milwaukee ratchet, but I think that's going to get replaced by the Hercules one as well. Now that this new hammer drill is out, I'm definitely getting it.
I bought the new brushless Hercules impact driver and hammer drill driver set for home. They are far more impressive then I was expecting. They seem every bit as powerful as my Milwaukee gen 3 set. But for the price they an awesome set of tools. Plus being able to bring the tool in for the 5 year warranty in store is awesome.
Thanks! We got two of them because it seems like they are stopping production of these things overseas and it takes 2-3 months to get them here. So we have 2400W of load we can dial up. Ohh the possibilities
Yeah, I like it. I can't believe how much power these tools can put out. I'd imagine they can't do it for too long due to how little the motors are, but even being able to make a couple dyno passes is impressive to me.
@@volvo09 Agreed. 1Kw is insane. They do go into heat protection mode if kept there eventually, but that's just good design. A worse tool will let out the smoke
Well you done it again. You made another tool testing catagory entertaining and truly informative. I've not been able to get into other channels testing drills. Can you also please test the compact drills as well, like the M12 Milwaukee, Bosch 12V, ToolPRO 12V, VEVOR 12V, SP Tools 12V, Snap On 14.4V. Maybe even test cordless screwdrivers?
@@ilyketrainz 20v max tools are the same as 18v tools. Just marketing to sell tools. Both 18v and 20v batteries measure the same right off the charger. That’s why they have to use the “max” in the label.
The problem I ran into with every cordless drill out there is their lackluster speed, way too slow for some heavier drilling applications where you need the higher speeds. For a home diy application they're great, but for heavy use, you'll want to drag out a corded drill.
I love the competition, keeps the manufacturers on there toes and we all win in the end. Nice job Hercules, time to step it up Milwaukee/Dewalt when the cheaper price drill is outperforming you guys.
Big name tool companies have been doing the same run of the mill stuff for years, so much so, they didn't realize their no-name brand competitors are now kicking their asses....they've played off their brand names and colors for so long, people have just been assuming they're gonna be the best. Although a lot of these things are actually made in the same factories in China, they do have different internals for the most part....but the no-name stuff is really starting to catch up, and fast.
The majority of new release tools have quite a bit of thermal overload protection that shuts the motor off before damage is done. It'd take a while to actually trash one.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 That testing would take time and space, and to do endurance testing on these would open the doors to everyone wanting to see everything endurance tested. They also would need to buy and test multiple samples of each model, as TTC has had one off issues with a few air impacts and the 4th gen Fuel impact driver.
You guys are costing me a lot of money! This weekend I bought Hercules 1/4 inch impact driver and 1/2 inch impact wrench based on your comparison. Now this is on my list. Or I saved a lot of money not spending on Red.😊 You guys have an awesome channel!
As someone already many thousands into Milwaukee batteries and tools I'm not switching. Good to see competition, that benefits everyone. Last night I had to open up my Milwaukee fuel 18g finish gun and fix the mechanism that racks the piston back. I accidently shot a nail into concrete oopsie. The point is they used the exact same screw for every hole and it was very easy to fix. I wish electronics would follow.
Love watching you guys test HF tools along with name brands. I buy all hercules and bauer products and ive only ever had one bauer drill let me down. (I started a 22hp lawn mower motor by the top nut and practically twisted my wrist and broke the chuck connection. my fault completely.) Would there be a possibility of testing the Hercules right angle drill at some point in the near future as ive been keeping my eye on it wondering how it does with loads with the 5, 8 and 12 ah batteries. Id be using it for work framing single family homes.
I Bought the Bare 2803 to Use exclusively with My 10 inch Ice Auger. I also purchased a couple Knock off 5 ah which actually ended up being 3 ah. With the knock offs I could not even get 6 inches drilled without the tool cutting out due too the Batteries getting Hot. I bought a 6Ah HO and Wow what a Difference I can drill Non stop now and the Drill feels Totally different with the HO battery which your Test has Proved Here. Thanks
Impressive! If I were changing battery lines, or starting my tool journey, or needing to add HO batteries to my current collection, I would give the Hercules a serious look. Since I already have M18 HO batteries, a bare M18 Fuel drill will cost me less than starting over in Hercules, so it might not be more cost effective to switch.
Would be nice to see some FEIN tools here. They are the Inverters of the power drill and here in Germany all over the industry you will find them. Especially the 4speed
There's so much I could say, but naw... As impressive as Hercules did here, *Torque Test Channel* continues to be the hero in every test! *_Sincerely..._* Thank you for being honest, when *so many* in this world aren't willing to be. ❤️🍻 _(not a dig at any brand or channel, just a sad matter-of-fact)_
id love to see the rest of the TTI herd (rigid & ryobi), craftaman, kobalt, and for giggles, a corded drill. Also interested in how the drills perform in hammerdrill mode (if equipped). maybe use the air hammer rig?
I bought this hercules hammer drill and impact driver this week when they were on sale for a total of $233 with 2 batteries and chargers. I'm an electrician, and I only use milwaukee fuel tools. I can attest that these drills are basically the same as the milwaukee drills. I bought them to use when I'm working in trenches and when I'm under a house. If it breaks, I can just go to the harbor freight down the street, and I'll get a new replacement. It is great and cheap for a beater drill. The only con to them is that the trigger feel is awkward and really leaves something left to be desired
As an engineer I love the engineeriness of this channel. The data is so much more in depth and I really enjoy it. This video is a good example for those who struggle with the difference between HP and Torque. I personally think HP is more important for a drill and torque in an impact but it's good to see The Herc balance them, just make sure you've got good quality bits because torque can hinder installing 3" deck screws. Despite all the fantastic engineeriness of the tests I'd like to add my humble suggestion. I think power efficiency is important. Sure the Herc has good output but what did it cost. An 18v 5Ah battery is going to be 10 cells arranged as a 5S2P. If a fully charged cell is 4.2v and fully discharged is 3.2v then you get the difference between 21V (cough DeWalt) and 16v or 5V of usable power. There should be a meter capturing the amount of power used and the power out of the tool. If the Milwaukee starts at 21v and ends at 20v it uses 1/5 of its available volts. The Herc might have used 1.5 or 2v. I'm assuming 18v is nominal volts or 3.7v per cell in parallel and volts measured before any voltage regulator in the circuit. Anyway, it's likely the more efficient the tool or closer to 100% efficient the more reliable the tool will be. Even measuring the temp of each tool before and after the test would be useful. Efficiency will certainly affect a battery's overall life span. Then if you REALLY want to get engineery measure the amount of energy required to fully charge your dead battery, then the output efficiency. These are all important factors over the life of your investment.
Would love to see Hilti both the old 22v and nuron verses these drills. I have a 22v Hilti drill that doesn’t seem to stout but it’s been a very rouged tool.
I recently dumped my old drill driver and battery system and replaced them all with the Hercules line. So far I’m glad to see I made a good choice. I’m glad I didn’t go the DeWaukee route.
@@wildbill23c Nothing special, I was using Ryobi and was looking to upgrade to Ridgid, Makita or DeWalt. Not big on all the different tools within a particular eco system, I was just looking for the basics, Drill, Driver & Torque.
The future will be interesting! For me i would still pick the Milwaukee because of the inconsistency at harbor freight in brands, they currently have Hercules Bauer, and warrior, but what happened to Chicago electric cordless tools for example? Its not uncommon for harbor freight to develop a new line and drop an old line in its place, while I have Milwaukee tools I've owned for 15+ years that will work with a brand new battery i could buy at home depot today. Years ago we would buy harbor freight as throwaway tools and if they lasted a few months we got our money out of them, this new drill is 80% of the cost of the Milwaukee, so even if it outperforms a Milwaukee in some ways or is in fact a better value, who knows if you can rely on them to still exist when you're 3 years into the 5 year warranty that this offers. As always, thanks for the video
@@hardtymz2517 you're kidding right? Milwaukee abandoned that platform, not to mention all their M18 stuff is more powerful than their m28 line. It could have been something amazing but they didn't really try very hard with it.
I really googled "jacobs locking truck". You got me sir. Real talk thanks for allowing me to explain to my coworkers that checking this channel out is better than believing whats on the box of what they bought. Fantastic job.
The chuck of the drill is a keyless Jacobs brand chuck, known for resilience- locking are even better when dealing with those jumpy situations. If you check one out at HF stores you’ll see the small writing saying “jacobs” on the chuck right by the clutch adjust
I’m an addict so I just grabbed a craftsman brushed “4 tool” combo with a drill, sander, recip, and light for $99. Figured my Herc brushless recip was at the shop and the Bauer 20v orbital is too weak for wet sanding sometimes, and who doesn’t need another light? 😂 but I’ve got so many drills I have a dedicated paint mixing drill, let me know if you’d want the crapsman for a budget roundup👍
I have been considering the herc for my business for the warranty part but after seeing this I feel like it is really a no brainer if it feels good in my hand. I need to go try it out.
You can pat yourself on the back along with other tool testing channels. Competition makes things better. You’ve exposed the real numbers so now they have to compete. LOVE THIS
The Bauer lineup is larger, so they end up higher in sales numbers because of the larger assortment of available tools...but for the slight bump up in price I think Hercules is a good way to go with their 5 year warranty, beating out Dewalt's 3 year warranty of good luck trying to get them to fix any of their stuff that breaks...with Harbor Freight its a simple walk in and swap it out warranty. I have a lot of yellow tools, but the cost difference for a DIYer at home between yellow and the Bauer or Hercules is pretty big, once you have the batteries and chargers, the bare tools from Bauer/Hercules are a no-brainer. They'll get your DIY chores done just fine, and leave money in your wallet, more so than Dewalt...I remember back when the Dewalt bare tools were $99, now they're $150 and up and the quality just doesn't seem to be there anymore sadly.
Great video as always, I would love to see a Kobalt XTR as its the brand i use. I have the non hammer version so I don't know if that makes a difference but I like the new drill comparisons. Keep up the great work, we always discuss your new videos at work.
I paid 250 for gen 4 kit. impact and drill with a 3.0 ho, regular 5.0, charger, and bag. slightly used. mostly new. both batteries look brand new. regular charger. my old job let me keep a HO 3.0 and a lil milwauke baggy so im rocking the 3.0s on both tools and the 5.0 as a backup it's sweet. better deal than Hercules.
Good to see proper 4 wire sense methods being used for the most accurate measurements, but thoes alligator clips don't look like enough for the amount of current you're pulling. Also, I think I have a simple Chinese power meter, and you may want to separately verify the voltage and especially current readings it's giving you, especially when there's a large drop between the load and sense wires. Mine had the current readings co completely out of wack if I had more than a few volts of drop between the load and sense wires.
As a former part time employee of HF, and someone who has an old Chicago Electric that's been a daily warrior at work for years, I have a soft spot for their improved brands. It's nice to see that when the old one gives it up, it's descendant will do it proud.
I use the 3ah Ho batteries on my drills(actually most tools if the small capacity doesn't hinder the tool), I liked the fact they were lighter and noticed a power difference but damn I didn't think it was that much!
The power difference you're noticing with 3ah HO batteries over the standard 5ah is likely just a placebo. A 3ah HO is half of a 6ah HO and only outputs 35Amps of current, lower than the 40Amps of a standard 5ah XC. Project Farm had done a video on this exact comparison too, I'm not just theorising based on specs. Meanwhile a 6Ah HO outputs 70 amps of current which is reflected in the 40% power difference over the standard 5Ah (40amps). I use 3Ah HO batteries too but usually on stuff that doesn't need a lot of power like impact drivers. Drills benefit a lot going from 3 to 6 HOs. At the end of the day a 3Ah HO isn't a 6Ah HO but for a compact battery it's so much better than the previous 2Ah with 18650s.
I wonder if you calculated the power from the torque measurement, then calculated the torque from the power measurement, and compared the two? Could be nice to validate both rigs :)
I'm not a guy of this stuff, but it seems to me that a good question to ask is "how many screws can you drive with drill/battery combo x" and how does that relate to the screw-driving experience of people who drive screws for a living versus everyday folks? Maybe the home gamer is fine with a standard Harbor Freight, but the gains from a Gen 4 + High Output Milwaukee make sense for the pro. Probably extremely difficult to actually test. Either way, really enjoy the methodical, considered, approach to testing!
I would love to see the BIG Hilti 4 speed drill tested please. I have one and it is very strong. It will hurt you if you dont pay attention for sure. I suggest always using it with the right angle handle attached. I just use mine for the larger jobs. My Bosch and Festool 10.8/12 volt drill/drivers are used everywhere else.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm all in on the new craftsman RP+ V20 stuff. I know it's not for everyone, but for my line of work it's perfect. It's Dewalt for have the price, and I love the way they perform and the ergo's. I have a bunch of the 1.5ah batteries that come in the kits, and recently bought some 2ah batteries, I was quite surprised at the difference in power. I didn't think it would be noticeable, I just thought the batteries would last longer but it is a very noticeable difference. Kinda wish I had gotten the 4ah batteries now.
after the impact test i think this is a super good test for comparing power drills. i have always been curious to the metabo hpt/ hikoki dv36da. This is also a beast, especially with the 4ah 36v battery. i drilled 5 inch holes through concrete floors from 10 inch with one battery load without stalling. the full load runtime it can handle compared to milwaukee without overheating is massive i mentioned when tapping holes with both machines.
There is a large market in the ice fishing world for pairing a cordless drill with up to an 8.5” ice auger. I reckon it’s the hardest thing you can do with a drill. Very high torque, long drill times, and cold temperatures. Have seen multiple failures of top of the line Milwaukee and Dewalt drills. Might have to try a Hercules, especially with that warranty.
Hay ttc love watching u. I've made some good informed decisions thanks to u. U should text out the new bauet 1/2 impacts. I got a couple bauer tools and a 5ah batter. Would it be worth getting? I work on my family's cars nothing thatt calls for 800lbs of nut busting. But I do find myself wishing I had a 1/2 inch for lugnuts and the occasional ball joint press
Keep up the testing it really saves me time when I can use your videos as a benchmark instead of online forums. Also, could you test more Metabo HPT products 18V and 36V please and thank you.
After these videos ive replaced all my old dewalt tools with the hercules stuff and ive been loving them. I use my stuff every day at work and beat them to death. I did kill my 1/4 inch impact after a year of using it in a manner its not designed for then had it replaced for free over the counter. Well worth the money imo
My real money is spent on bigger shop equipment like my table saw, lathe, bandsaw, drill press, planer ect. As far as corded tools, Ryobi works just fine for my use case
Whats funny is that my gen 3 Milwaukee was to powerful for a job the other day doing screw work and i had to use my ryobi which worked 100x better with the clutch setup being so much softer
I have the Bauer drill from HF. It works well for me. I have a couple of the Hercules tools, the midsize 1/2 inch and the larger ultra torque 1/2 inch version. The smaller one does a lot of smaller things all but was lacking on the big stuff.
I'd love to see the XGT higher end hammer drill and drill driver. Is it just the hammer drill without the hammer function? When I get around to upgrading, I would probably go with that. I don't need the hammer function any more since I got a rotary hammer. Won't do well in the /dollar category, though.
This is all very compelling for Harbor Freight... IF I had not already invested heavily in the Milwaukee ecosystem. I would also be interested to see how each of these (and the impacts and ratchets) perform after a few years of professional use.
I doubt they'd do the day in and day out torture of some professional use shops, maybe in the small automotive stuff, but once you get into the HD vehicles they probably wouldn't work very well....that's where those higher priced tools come in that the pros go for...what I find too, is the availability at Harbor Freight is very hit and miss...but seems to be much easier to find the brand name stuff because its everywhere, VS Bauer, and Hercules only being available at Harbor Freight, and maybe Ebay from scalpers.
We don't often pray at the alter of High output, but if you own an M18 drill - these are actually worth their weight and then some amzn.to/3nVeFRA.
I don't expect this will be the last Hercules we will test at this rate of results. Some aren't great (new 12V cut-off for instance, we've found) but others really seem to put a hurt on other top brands. Make your suggestions!
Can you test Milwaukee and DeWalts normal brushless drills? To see how bad it is 🤣
can you do a test of aussie brand wrenches?
We should make out
Could you run the kobalt hammer drill? I've had mine for about 3 years now and it's still kicking. Curious how it compares to these others. I bought a combo set (1/4in driver and a hammer drill) for $200 3 years ago. I use them both almost daily as an industrial maintenance tech and they have been great for me. It is about time for me to upgrade though and I'm not sure if I should stick to kobalt or go with Hercules...
I'm assuming with the Hercules you were referring to the extreme performance battery?
Harbor Freight really stepping up to shake that "throwaway tool" reputation... And I approve!
Not me, i buy once.
The premium Harbor Freight hand tools are outstanding; but they only have the premium version of some mechanic's tools, like sockets, wrenches, and ratchets. I have some of their ratchets that Iv'e been using for 9 years, and they are very tight and precise. They also have a "premium" version of air tools, which are as good as anything on the market. I have one of their expensive composite air impact wrenches, and it absolutely screams, and will remove just about any fastener.. It appears that they have at least 3 different lines of power tools now too, the Chicago Electric (trash), the Bauer (trash) and the Hercules (very good). And welders: Chicago Electric (trash), the Titanium (very good) and the Vulcan (commercial quality with a long warranty). I have a Vulcan Tig welder, and it's built like a tank. You have to pay for their premium tools, or you won't get a useful product.
When I use to do electrical work. I had a 18 volt Hercules 1/4 inch impact driver. I dropped it off 12 foot ladders, 30 ft flight of steps, all kinds of tough places. I put the Milwaukee fuel brushless to shame. That was like 4 years ago.
I started hitting harbor freight before home depot for tools. I know they are not the best but everything changed when I bought like 14 dollar grinder made by Hercules and until today its still running. Heavily used grinder.
@@ex8280i only buy once too and save a lot of money, you just look stupid
Speaking of overshooting the mark: these videos have no business being this good. Keep up the good work!
One can no longer just believe in brands alone. You and PF do an outstanding job of presenting real work data to us, Thanks.
Dumb question - have you ever tested multiples of the same model to look at consistency within a brand?
Not a dumb question at all. We have in 3 seperate cases in cordless impacts, in the M18 2767's case we've bought 3 and tested another heavily used 1 that was not ours.
We've also done it with a cordless cut-off tool we happen to have 2 of (DeWALT, because it's so good). And this gen 3 M18 drill we actually have more than one of as well just from drilling all kinds of stuff. So far in all of those cases the results have been boring because they all make the same numbers, I think in two cases we've shown this on camera: The Rigid Octane in our 2nd purchase of it when Max Output came out, and the M18 2767 when we borrowed that one the guy used as a wrecking ball in a junk yard.
I'm sure there are differences out there, but it might take a pallet of tools from various brands to find them.
Not a dumb question at all!
@@kilgorefarms2169 In my experience if you send in a tool for performing at 9 tenths, they just send it back.
That’s actually a very good question…
Thanks for asking this.
TTC has become my absolute favorite YT channel. I heard your voice across a restaurant the other day and I instantly looked up from my food, peered around the room, and said "Who's watching TTC????" lol😁
Hercules has a starter kit that includes the drill or impact driver with a 2ah battery and charger for about $100, that' hard to beat. Granted the 2ah isn't ideal but it's useful for sure. I bought the impact driver and I couldn't be happier with it so far.
Now they have a 5a 20v battery and charger and any 20v tool free for 119..
I personally buy Bauer because it has more tools id use around a cabinet shop.
@@straysavages1961 I just picked up this tool and a 5ah battery and charger for $99.... Going to pick up another battery, charger, and impact in June parking lot sale and get this... Can return the charger for a partial $22 credit making... $77!
I'm rewatching this episode 11 months since it's release and HF has been running a Hercules sale 3 AH charger 5 AH battery and tool for $99 for the last 3 months. To next level that $199 kit price the same sale you could also get another 3AH charger 5AH battery and then choose an 8AH extreme performance battery combined total $198. You can believe I've started patiently replacing my yellow tools/batteries with blue from the Freight.
Same have had several dewalts but the batteris are crazy expensive. As a tool dies or gets to dated i have been swapping them to Hercules
It's actually 4 ah charger.
Lately they have been having a sale where you buy the battery and charger starter kit and get this tool for free along with many other tools available bringing the total price down to 119.99. pretty amazing stuff considering it outperforms all my dewault and milwalkee stuff.
As an electrician trainee working on a budget this is excellent news. I can keep the rigid tools that I baby at home and absolutely abuse a set of hercules tools, knowing I have 5 years to yeet them across job sites.
Like a beater car or truck...
and most people aren't going to get all excited about swiping a Hercules too off a job site either, but a nice orange, red, or yellow tool on the other hand.
Aren't Rigid tools lifetime?
There are restrictions.@@pioneltapinessi947
@@pioneltapinessi947yeah but good luck getting them to honor any part of that
Amazing that you now have a setup for this! I’d def recommend the flex along with makitas XGT. I’m sure your already on it tho!
10-4!
Picked up the herc from my local HF for like $67 open box
Nice!👍
Congrats to Hercules! This is great because it inspires competition. I imagine Milwaukee will be creating some type of stacked lithium at some point. I was able to get that Hercules 20% off last weekend, glad I did.
Yeah that was crazy. I have the milwaukee and its crazy how big of a hole you can cut out with it in high gear. I'm very impressed with it
congrats to China for making their clones more effective each iteration
They had the drill and driver with batteries and charger for $200 last month, great deal.
@@nmatthew7469 i hope the chinese workers are being paid well for this "competition". someone should take one of these to AvE for inspection.
@@CrudeBuster You mean hey made the China-made Hercules better than the China-made Milwaukee, and possibly better than the "made with global components" DeWalt? 🤣
Another vote for Kobalt XTR. I'm in dewalt and kobalt batteries so I'm hoping for a better showing compared to that dewalt you did. I'm still running the old non-xtr drill.
Yep I had the XTR first and old timers told me m18 would smoke it. I didn't understand how anyone could want more torque because that thing will rip your arm right off. Started using the m18 gen3 and there isn't nearly the power under load.
@@ThaNinjaSeal Yeah, I have the M12 Fuel gen2 and I have to be careful when it breaks through metal. I wouldn’t mind a handle for it. I haven’t seen a need for M18 yet.
Used to have a few hercules , never had any issues. That being said, when I had the money - I upgraded to the kobalt. Have to say, for home use, I've never had a problem w them - been very reliable tools.
Schocking to see that the HO batteries make so much differents. Now i am wondering how the smaller/lighter HO 3.0 runs against the 5.0 & 6.0 Ah batteries
I'd also like to know this
Yes, show smaller output batteries. I usually go with the smallest (lightest) in my drill.
Load testing the batteries themselves, a 3ah HO performs like an XC5.0. But your point is a good one, to check that on these drill as well
I think it was the compact m18 impact wrench where the 3.0 ho and the xc5.0 performed very similar. I assumed it'd ve very similar for the impact driver and drill, been loving the size and weight savings. Ounces equal pounds
I finally realized what you timer chime reminds me of. I had a 91 Honda accord back in the day and the key in the ignition chime sounds identical to your timer chime.
This plus the 1/4in Hercules impact driver are making me consider just picking a few of these up to have as extras if we get a new guy who needs a drill to borrow. I like that Harbor Freight is remaining cheap and also actually attempting (and not doing bad at all) to compete. Good for them.
I bought the prior gen Hercules drill in a bind. In a kit with carrying case, charger and one 5ah battery for $95. This thing prove well worth the cost when it put a 2 inch Lennox BiMetal holesaw through 1/4 inch plate steel 8 times on a single charge!
Well done, I'm always impressed with both the quality and delivery of these videos!
For a request, I'd be very interested in Kobalt's XTR and Next Gen drills paired each with a standard 4ah battery and their 4ah ultimate output battery.
I love the harbor freight ad that piped up after this
I love it when the underdog performs. What a great episode.
I'm really curious to see how rigid fits in. Also, some rigid and Ryobi models look almost identical, so I'd be curious to know if they do perform identically.
Both brands are made by TTI (who also makes Milwaukee), so they're probably very similarly constructed, if not identical, apart from the case colors. Usually there are some small differences, though.
@@bjn714 yes and since battery seemed to make such a big difference I'm really curious if there's a huge performance difference
@@bjn714 I'd be furious if they was the same
I really would like to know how the full size Ridgid Octane fairs as the tq was rated so high. I don't think they make a new version that is rated like the Octane.
@@bjn714 In all the comparisons where they break them down, I've never seen them be exactly the same.
I'm currently working toward replacing all my Milwaukee tools with Hercules 20v brushless. I've been hanging on to my Milwaukee ratchet, but I think that's going to get replaced by the Hercules one as well. Now that this new hammer drill is out, I'm definitely getting it.
I bought the new brushless Hercules impact driver and hammer drill driver set for home. They are far more impressive then I was expecting. They seem every bit as powerful as my Milwaukee gen 3 set. But for the price they an awesome set of tools. Plus being able to bring the tool in for the 5 year warranty in store is awesome.
Very impressive! Thanks for sharing this with us!
That new watts load tester is sweet
Thanks! We got two of them because it seems like they are stopping production of these things overseas and it takes 2-3 months to get them here. So we have 2400W of load we can dial up. Ohh the possibilities
Yeah, I like it.
I can't believe how much power these tools can put out. I'd imagine they can't do it for too long due to how little the motors are, but even being able to make a couple dyno passes is impressive to me.
@@volvo09 Agreed. 1Kw is insane. They do go into heat protection mode if kept there eventually, but that's just good design. A worse tool will let out the smoke
Well you done it again. You made another tool testing catagory entertaining and truly informative.
I've not been able to get into other channels testing drills.
Can you also please test the compact drills as well, like the M12 Milwaukee, Bosch 12V, ToolPRO 12V, VEVOR 12V, SP Tools 12V, Snap On 14.4V.
Maybe even test cordless screwdrivers?
With all the battery adapters out there on the market, I'd love to see the HO Milwaukee battery on the Hercules and see if there is improvements.
The other way around would technically be a better outcome- hercules operates at 20V and milwaukee at 18V
@@ilyketrainz 20v max tools are the same as 18v tools. Just marketing to sell tools. Both 18v and 20v batteries measure the same right off the charger. That’s why they have to use the “max” in the label.
@@ilyketrainz they all operate at the same voltage.
@@ilyketrainz20v tools aren't a thing. It's 18v.
@@michaelpersaud4587 possibly a stupid question but.. Does this mean "24V drills" like a Flex, isn't 24 but actually 18v then?
I hope you get to the Bauer 1/2" drill driver. Brushless, and I just picked one up for $34. Feels powerful.
The problem I ran into with every cordless drill out there is their lackluster speed, way too slow for some heavier drilling applications where you need the higher speeds. For a home diy application they're great, but for heavy use, you'll want to drag out a corded drill.
Glad you guys came up with this dyno setup. Before this, the standard test was how big of a lag bolt it could set lol
The data shall set you free!
I love the competition, keeps the manufacturers on there toes and we all win in the end.
Nice job Hercules, time to step it up Milwaukee/Dewalt when the cheaper price drill is outperforming you guys.
Big name tool companies have been doing the same run of the mill stuff for years, so much so, they didn't realize their no-name brand competitors are now kicking their asses....they've played off their brand names and colors for so long, people have just been assuming they're gonna be the best. Although a lot of these things are actually made in the same factories in China, they do have different internals for the most part....but the no-name stuff is really starting to catch up, and fast.
I'd like to see a longevity test done.
Say run them at 75% constant load and see which ones burn out quicker.
The majority of new release tools have quite a bit of thermal overload protection that shuts the motor off before damage is done. It'd take a while to actually trash one.
@@ToAstYNaChO What's your point? If it takes 3 months to figure it out, so be it.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 Are customer reviews not enough ?
@@vietfrost Why are you even here if reviews are enough? You don't need to see any testing this channel does on that case.
@@evictioncarpentry2628 That testing would take time and space, and to do endurance testing on these would open the doors to everyone wanting to see everything endurance tested. They also would need to buy and test multiple samples of each model, as TTC has had one off issues with a few air impacts and the 4th gen Fuel impact driver.
It is great to see unbiased tests.
Yes everyone has his favorites.
Nice to HF get an unbiased review.
I got the Hercules cordless 20V impact drill, circular saw, palm sander, and the oscillating multi tool and I love them. Great tools 👍🏻
You guys are costing me a lot of money! This weekend I bought Hercules 1/4 inch impact driver and 1/2 inch impact wrench based on your comparison. Now this is on my list.
Or I saved a lot of money not spending on Red.😊
You guys have an awesome channel!
As someone already many thousands into Milwaukee batteries and tools I'm not switching. Good to see competition, that benefits everyone.
Last night I had to open up my Milwaukee fuel 18g finish gun and fix the mechanism that racks the piston back. I accidently shot a nail into concrete oopsie.
The point is they used the exact same screw for every hole and it was very easy to fix. I wish electronics would follow.
Can you try out the bosch drills?
Love watching you guys test HF tools along with name brands. I buy all hercules and bauer products and ive only ever had one bauer drill let me down. (I started a 22hp lawn mower motor by the top nut and practically twisted my wrist and broke the chuck connection. my fault completely.) Would there be a possibility of testing the Hercules right angle drill at some point in the near future as ive been keeping my eye on it wondering how it does with loads with the 5, 8 and 12 ah batteries. Id be using it for work framing single family homes.
I Bought the Bare 2803 to Use exclusively with My 10 inch Ice Auger. I also purchased a couple Knock off 5 ah which actually ended up being 3 ah. With the knock offs I could not even get 6 inches drilled without the tool cutting out due too the Batteries getting Hot. I bought a 6Ah HO and Wow what a Difference I can drill Non stop now and the Drill feels Totally different with the HO battery which your Test has Proved Here. Thanks
Try the flex and dewalt with the pouch lithium batteries.
We tested the DCD999 with the 5ah powerstack, it matches a 6ah 21700 XR battery
Impressive! If I were changing battery lines, or starting my tool journey, or needing to add HO batteries to my current collection, I would give the Hercules a serious look. Since I already have M18 HO batteries, a bare M18 Fuel drill will cost me less than starting over in Hercules, so it might not be more cost effective to switch.
Would be nice to see some FEIN tools here. They are the Inverters of the power drill and here in Germany all over the industry you will find them. Especially the 4speed
There's so much I could say, but naw... As impressive as Hercules did here, *Torque Test Channel* continues to be the hero in every test!
*_Sincerely..._* Thank you for being honest, when *so many* in this world aren't willing to be. ❤️🍻
_(not a dig at any brand or channel, just a sad matter-of-fact)_
I love the apology at the end of any sort of blunt comment.
Stop Apologizing for everything!
Truth is Truth!!!
@@MeandMyStaffy Roger that 😅
You should test the Ridgid octane high output hammer drill
Amazing testing as always!
Great Video. Trying the „most powerful drill“ from Bosch would be interesting I think. GSB-1330 CN
Awsome dude! Been waiting on this one! Maybe for a future cordless drill test: test the chuck runout :)
id love to see the rest of the TTI herd (rigid & ryobi), craftaman, kobalt, and for giggles, a corded drill. Also interested in how the drills perform in hammerdrill mode (if equipped). maybe use the air hammer rig?
I bought this hercules hammer drill and impact driver this week when they were on sale for a total of $233 with 2 batteries and chargers. I'm an electrician, and I only use milwaukee fuel tools. I can attest that these drills are basically the same as the milwaukee drills. I bought them to use when I'm working in trenches and when I'm under a house. If it breaks, I can just go to the harbor freight down the street, and I'll get a new replacement. It is great and cheap for a beater drill. The only con to them is that the trigger feel is awkward and really leaves something left to be desired
Would love tp see metabo hpt offerings. I know they have a new 36v and 18v top and drills coming over from japan
would love to see the Bosch Profactor drill tested! and their new mid range 1/2" impact too.
Yea since they claim strongest drill in its class
By the time you buy the fast charger, battery and drill there isn’t much savings between buying Hercules and DeWalt or Milwaukee
As an engineer I love the engineeriness of this channel. The data is so much more in depth and I really enjoy it. This video is a good example for those who struggle with the difference between HP and Torque. I personally think HP is more important for a drill and torque in an impact but it's good to see The Herc balance them, just make sure you've got good quality bits because torque can hinder installing 3" deck screws. Despite all the fantastic engineeriness of the tests I'd like to add my humble suggestion. I think power efficiency is important. Sure the Herc has good output but what did it cost. An 18v 5Ah battery is going to be 10 cells arranged as a 5S2P. If a fully charged cell is 4.2v and fully discharged is 3.2v then you get the difference between 21V (cough DeWalt) and 16v or 5V of usable power. There should be a meter capturing the amount of power used and the power out of the tool. If the Milwaukee starts at 21v and ends at 20v it uses 1/5 of its available volts. The Herc might have used 1.5 or 2v. I'm assuming 18v is nominal volts or 3.7v per cell in parallel and volts measured before any voltage regulator in the circuit. Anyway, it's likely the more efficient the tool or closer to 100% efficient the more reliable the tool will be. Even measuring the temp of each tool before and after the test would be useful. Efficiency will certainly affect a battery's overall life span. Then if you REALLY want to get engineery measure the amount of energy required to fully charge your dead battery, then the output efficiency. These are all important factors over the life of your investment.
If you catch the sale at HF it's half the price so hopefully that single Milwaukee tool can last as long as two Herc drills.
Great work as always
Would love to see Hilti both the old 22v and nuron verses these drills. I have a 22v Hilti drill that doesn’t seem to stout but it’s been a very rouged tool.
The new nuron tools are Garbage" I know because we use them at my company. They keep breaking smh
Bosch drill would be cool to see
I recently dumped my old drill driver and battery system and replaced them all with the Hercules line. So far I’m glad to see I made a good choice. I’m glad I didn’t go the DeWaukee route.
Curious as to which platform you were running previously. I have a few Hercules and Bauer tools now, my Dewalt stuff just sits most of the time LOL.
@@wildbill23c Nothing special, I was using Ryobi and was looking to upgrade to Ridgid, Makita or DeWalt. Not big on all the different tools within a particular eco system, I was just looking for the basics, Drill, Driver & Torque.
The future will be interesting!
For me i would still pick the Milwaukee because of the inconsistency at harbor freight in brands, they currently have Hercules Bauer, and warrior, but what happened to Chicago electric cordless tools for example? Its not uncommon for harbor freight to develop a new line and drop an old line in its place, while I have Milwaukee tools I've owned for 15+ years that will work with a brand new battery i could buy at home depot today.
Years ago we would buy harbor freight as throwaway tools and if they lasted a few months we got our money out of them, this new drill is 80% of the cost of the Milwaukee, so even if it outperforms a Milwaukee in some ways or is in fact a better value, who knows if you can rely on them to still exist when you're 3 years into the 5 year warranty that this offers.
As always, thanks for the video
Very impressive for the Hercules. Now i'm very curious to see how the new 24v Flex Hammer drill stacks up.
Skip the 24v tools. Get the awesome v28 Milwaukee ones! So much better!
@@hardtymz2517 you're kidding right? Milwaukee abandoned that platform, not to mention all their M18 stuff is more powerful than their m28 line. It could have been something amazing but they didn't really try very hard with it.
I really googled "jacobs locking truck". You got me sir. Real talk thanks for allowing me to explain to my coworkers that checking this channel out is better than believing whats on the box of what they bought.
Fantastic job.
The chuck of the drill is a keyless Jacobs brand chuck, known for resilience- locking are even better when dealing with those jumpy situations. If you check one out at HF stores you’ll see the small writing saying “jacobs” on the chuck right by the clutch adjust
Would love see break down video or added into each tool review get better idea of quality
I’m an addict so I just grabbed a craftsman brushed “4 tool” combo with a drill, sander, recip, and light for $99. Figured my Herc brushless recip was at the shop and the Bauer 20v orbital is too weak for wet sanding sometimes, and who doesn’t need another light? 😂 but I’ve got so many drills I have a dedicated paint mixing drill, let me know if you’d want the crapsman for a budget roundup👍
Wow at the rate Harbor Freight power tools are improving, in a few years when someone says they're team red, they'll mean Bauer
I have been considering the herc for my business for the warranty part but after seeing this I feel like it is really a no brainer if it feels good in my hand. I need to go try it out.
Would be nice to see if the Kobalt XTR Drill is like the XTR Driver and XTR High Torque Impact.
Ditto, the XTR impact driver is great, the XTR high torque not as much. The drill performs very well, would be curious how it would do on the Dyno.
XTR drill has an emergency kickback shutoff just like the HILTI
It should also be noted that the Gen4 has an actual mechanical clutch. Where the Gen3 has an electronic clutch.
You can pat yourself on the back along with other tool testing channels. Competition makes things better. You’ve exposed the real numbers so now they have to compete. LOVE THIS
Impressive results power and torque wise for the Hercules based on the price point @Torque Test Channel
I really appreciate all your efforts I would really like to see more of these flashlights tested the best for the real lumens
Got that Hercules for $99 with a battery and a charger. Wonder what thta number is if you factor that price in.
What about testing the Bosch 18V-50? I own one of these merely because of price but I wonder how it compares against the "premium" brands
Hercules with a chair from the top rope!
They've been killing it lately over the big brands too. Great video as always!
The Bauer lineup is larger, so they end up higher in sales numbers because of the larger assortment of available tools...but for the slight bump up in price I think Hercules is a good way to go with their 5 year warranty, beating out Dewalt's 3 year warranty of good luck trying to get them to fix any of their stuff that breaks...with Harbor Freight its a simple walk in and swap it out warranty. I have a lot of yellow tools, but the cost difference for a DIYer at home between yellow and the Bauer or Hercules is pretty big, once you have the batteries and chargers, the bare tools from Bauer/Hercules are a no-brainer. They'll get your DIY chores done just fine, and leave money in your wallet, more so than Dewalt...I remember back when the Dewalt bare tools were $99, now they're $150 and up and the quality just doesn't seem to be there anymore sadly.
Great video as always, I would love to see a Kobalt XTR as its the brand i use. I have the non hammer version so I don't know if that makes a difference but I like the new drill comparisons. Keep up the great work, we always discuss your new videos at work.
I paid 250 for gen 4 kit. impact and drill with a 3.0 ho, regular 5.0, charger, and bag. slightly used. mostly new. both batteries look brand new. regular charger. my old job let me keep a HO 3.0 and a lil milwauke baggy so im rocking the 3.0s on both tools and the 5.0 as a backup it's sweet. better deal than Hercules.
Good to see proper 4 wire sense methods being used for the most accurate measurements, but thoes alligator clips don't look like enough for the amount of current you're pulling.
Also, I think I have a simple Chinese power meter, and you may want to separately verify the voltage and especially current readings it's giving you, especially when there's a large drop between the load and sense wires. Mine had the current readings co completely out of wack if I had more than a few volts of drop between the load and sense wires.
As a former part time employee of HF, and someone who has an old Chicago Electric that's been a daily warrior at work for years, I have a soft spot for their improved brands. It's nice to see that when the old one gives it up, it's descendant will do it proud.
Would love to see you guys test the new Metabo HPT hammer drill
I use the 3ah Ho batteries on my drills(actually most tools if the small capacity doesn't hinder the tool), I liked the fact they were lighter and noticed a power difference but damn I didn't think it was that much!
The power difference you're noticing with 3ah HO batteries over the standard 5ah is likely just a placebo.
A 3ah HO is half of a 6ah HO and only outputs 35Amps of current, lower than the 40Amps of a standard 5ah XC. Project Farm had done a video on this exact comparison too, I'm not just theorising based on specs.
Meanwhile a 6Ah HO outputs 70 amps of current which is reflected in the 40% power difference over the standard 5Ah (40amps).
I use 3Ah HO batteries too but usually on stuff that doesn't need a lot of power like impact drivers. Drills benefit a lot going from 3 to 6 HOs. At the end of the day a 3Ah HO isn't a 6Ah HO but for a compact battery it's so much better than the previous 2Ah with 18650s.
Would be interested to see how the Dewalt DCD130, Makita XGT, or other mixer type drills do on these tests.
I wonder if you calculated the power from the torque measurement, then calculated the torque from the power measurement, and compared the two? Could be nice to validate both rigs :)
I'm not a guy of this stuff, but it seems to me that a good question to ask is "how many screws can you drive with drill/battery combo x" and how does that relate to the screw-driving experience of people who drive screws for a living versus everyday folks? Maybe the home gamer is fine with a standard Harbor Freight, but the gains from a Gen 4 + High Output Milwaukee make sense for the pro. Probably extremely difficult to actually test. Either way, really enjoy the methodical, considered, approach to testing!
I would love to see the BIG Hilti 4 speed drill tested please. I have one and it is very strong. It will hurt you if you dont pay attention for sure. I suggest always using it with the right angle handle attached. I just use mine for the larger jobs. My Bosch and Festool 10.8/12 volt drill/drivers are used everywhere else.
Good work, thank you.
Impressive for the Hercules I think the Flex Turbo Hammer drill with their stacked lithium would be a good comparison
Test the Cat drill with the graphene battery
I'm not gonna lie. I'm all in on the new craftsman RP+ V20 stuff. I know it's not for everyone, but for my line of work it's perfect. It's Dewalt for have the price, and I love the way they perform and the ergo's. I have a bunch of the 1.5ah batteries that come in the kits, and recently bought some 2ah batteries, I was quite surprised at the difference in power. I didn't think it would be noticeable, I just thought the batteries would last longer but it is a very noticeable difference. Kinda wish I had gotten the 4ah batteries now.
after the impact test i think this is a super good test for comparing power drills. i have always been curious to the metabo hpt/ hikoki dv36da. This is also a beast, especially with the 4ah 36v battery. i drilled 5 inch holes through concrete floors from 10 inch with one battery load without stalling. the full load runtime it can handle compared to milwaukee without overheating is massive i mentioned when tapping holes with both machines.
Wow what a deal if the Hercules comes with a locking truck! @2:02 I’ll take it!!
I caught that too 😂
There is a large market in the ice fishing world for pairing a cordless drill with up to an 8.5” ice auger. I reckon it’s the hardest thing you can do with a drill. Very high torque, long drill times, and cold temperatures. Have seen multiple failures of top of the line Milwaukee and Dewalt drills. Might have to try a Hercules, especially with that warranty.
Attaching a long drill bit and seeing the amount of cam out the chuck has would be very interesting to know on each Brand and model.
Hay ttc love watching u. I've made some good informed decisions thanks to u.
U should text out the new bauet 1/2 impacts. I got a couple bauer tools and a 5ah batter. Would it be worth getting? I work on my family's cars nothing thatt calls for 800lbs of nut busting. But I do find myself wishing I had a 1/2 inch for lugnuts and the occasional ball joint press
Keep up the testing it really saves me time when I can use your videos as a benchmark instead of online forums. Also, could you test more Metabo HPT products 18V and 36V please and thank you.
After these videos ive replaced all my old dewalt tools with the hercules stuff and ive been loving them. I use my stuff every day at work and beat them to death. I did kill my 1/4 inch impact after a year of using it in a manner its not designed for then had it replaced for free over the counter. Well worth the money imo
The only tool testing channel worth every minute of it, and the information. Real science, and hard data.
My real money is spent on bigger shop equipment like my table saw, lathe, bandsaw, drill press, planer ect. As far as corded tools, Ryobi works just fine for my use case
Love these videos. Would also love to see a more premium brand like the 18volt Fein drill.
Whats funny is that my gen 3 Milwaukee was to powerful for a job the other day doing screw work and i had to use my ryobi which worked 100x better with the clutch setup being so much softer
I have the Bauer drill from HF. It works well for me. I have a couple of the Hercules tools, the midsize 1/2 inch and the larger ultra torque 1/2 inch version. The smaller one does a lot of smaller things all but was lacking on the big stuff.
I'd love to see the XGT higher end hammer drill and drill driver. Is it just the hammer drill without the hammer function? When I get around to upgrading, I would probably go with that. I don't need the hammer function any more since I got a rotary hammer. Won't do well in the /dollar category, though.
Why, they are cheaper than Milwaukee and stronger
@@riba2233 The 2904 from Milwaukee is $200 bare and 300 as a kit. The GPH01 is 224 bare or 424 as a kit...
@@reginalb124 ah ok, it is different in europe, xgt is 190e and Milwaukee is more. Not a huge diff anyways
This is all very compelling for Harbor Freight... IF I had not already invested heavily in the Milwaukee ecosystem. I would also be interested to see how each of these (and the impacts and ratchets) perform after a few years of professional use.
I love the red tools. 6 years and never had a problem. I want that gen 4 now.😅
And an 8amp high output.
I doubt they'd do the day in and day out torture of some professional use shops, maybe in the small automotive stuff, but once you get into the HD vehicles they probably wouldn't work very well....that's where those higher priced tools come in that the pros go for...what I find too, is the availability at Harbor Freight is very hit and miss...but seems to be much easier to find the brand name stuff because its everywhere, VS Bauer, and Hercules only being available at Harbor Freight, and maybe Ebay from scalpers.
Should have had a look on the inside, check quality of the gears, bearings etc.