How Long Have We Been Playing with Fire?
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- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2024
- So we know that humans are pretty good at making fires, but how long have we been barbecue pit masters? Turns out the evidence is hardly a smoking gun.
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"Once humans figured out how to use fire, there was no looking back." This unfortunately resulted in many deaths from predators sneaking up behind them.
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"The secret is to bang the rocks together!" -- The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
"Maybe we should give them our lighter" -- Aliens
Something I find remarkable is that not only do we use fire ourselves, in domesticating other animals we had to get them used to our controlled fires- torches, firepits, etc. Animals have a very understandable aversion to fire, and for us to gain enough of their trust that we can wield fire around horses, dogs, and other creatures who we've tamed, it's kinda wild that they don't constantly panic when a fire-wielding Human comes near them.
Really good point!
Totally get your point.. even for me it is an amazing observation.. they somehow understand that we humans understand how to control the fire
You should look into the Australian. Fire hawks, they apparently use fire has a tool by spreading wildfires to smoke out rodents to catch
And then you have birds in australia who saw us and just went "Hey good idea, THE WORLD SHALL BURN"
To quote Titus on why humansarestupid "Every animal on this planet has an instinctual fear of fire! Human beings on the other hand learn about fire... by touching fire!"
Humans' first discovery = fire
Humans' second discovery = never pick it up with your fingers
Now we have similar but somehow different enough to "discover" things like if you stick body parts in a toaster you get burned badly
@@PsilomuscimolThat's why I use chopsticks instead of my fingers when the bread gets stuck in the toaster.
@@Samu2010lolcatsjust use the butter knife you're probably already using for whatever you're putting on that bsgel
I bet that it was a person with ADHD who first figured out how to make fire.
Who else is going to sit down and hyperfocus on rubbing two sticks together till they just burst into flames?
@glenngriffon8032 the first fires made were more likely from flint sparks than friction since you need a rope for that to work iirc
Everything changed when the fire hominids attacked.
“Hello, Zuko here” 🙋🏻♂️
Hello there! 🧔♂️
Everything change when the fire nation attack! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Why are you here?.
Flame-o, hotman.
@@ag135i
I’m a fire bender. And I’m considered to be pretty good at it. I’m looking for the avatar, to teach him fire bending and help him defeat my father and restore balance to the world.
BTW SciShow had an episode called "Firehawks: Nature's Arsonists", 4 years ago, about birds in Australia that purposely spread fire for their own advantage.
We didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world's been turning.
How said that “we start fire”!? Lol, it’s very obvious
@@osamaqtaitat He's quoting Billy Joel: ruclips.net/video/eFTLKWw542g/видео.htmlsi=g9xjMFJ-c2tHtpxm
@@osamaqtaitat song
Australian eagles (wedgetails) may not yet know how to make fire, but they have learned to use it: they find a burning stick at a small bushfire at a distant location then fly it over some unburnt growth and firebomb it. As the small rodents etc flee from the flames, the eagles will swoop down and take them.
Thankfully this is not yet widespread behaviour (probably because small fires are not comon), but it has been observed - and by more reliable sources than bar patrons.
I love how people are draw to fire. I was at a Coney Island ar midnight eating when everyone noticed a car on fire in the parking lot. Everyone left their seats and gathered around. It became a mini party of strangers until the fire department showed up.
"None of the OG fire users left us any diary entries..."
Those selfish, prehistoric jerks.
TBF, how were they supposed to know that diaries were so flammable.
@@nottelling7438 If they were anything like me, they probably tried lighting them on fire once or twice. That might've given them a clue.
I guess there's a reason why they call it prehistoric lol
so you're telling me that WE are the fire nation?
Is this really a surprise? Look how destructive we are
So when I leave an enormous mess in the kitchen, I’m actually contributing to future archeological studies by clearly marking that this was a human domicile
Yes you are! And future archaeologists are going to be _so freaking excited_ to find evidence of your burnt out toaster buried under two feet of sediment
"Which I bet smelled awesome." 😂🤣😂🤣
probably a week after we've been playing
Thanks a lot.
it's obvious to some, but it's worth clarifying that our ancestors were almost certainly not yet "human" when this relationship was forged initially.
the whole discussion is "When did they 'master' it?", "What even IS 'mastery'?", and "How can we tell?"
Not surprised. We also haven't learned not to touch it.
'Fire - a brief history' by Stephen Pyne is an interesting read.
"We're the experts"
meanwhile i can't even get near a running stove without having a panic attack
I wonder if conflict played a part in reducing fire's use and was only done when you had a large enough group or knew there were no other groups around... going a long with that "easy to spot" smoke would be an obvious signal that you were in a specific spot.
Right on time for making dinner
This civilization brought to you by, Fire.
“Fire (tm): It’s hot!”
thanks fire.
It's finger burning hot 😁
Exciting subject.
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I love that sweater!
Love the sweater
Good host
I wonder if the first people to use fire "caught" it -- found a natural fire, got some on a stick, and made their own burn pile they'd maintain rather than actually starting it themselves
Probably
That certainly happened, we probably spent hundreds of thousands of years mastering maintaining fire so as to not lose it, before we ever managed to create it.
Exactly what kind of doctor are you?
This was almost certainly how humans obtained fire for thousands of years. The leap between being able to transfer existing fire from one place to another and being able create fire from scratch is a very substantial one. Importantly, there's no easy jump between knowing how to move it and knowing how to start it. The processes (whichever ones you use) are very different from each other and there's little in the way of a logical bridge between the two. Even if you were able to make the connection that enough heat could start a fire, figuring out how to create that much heat is an entirely different matter unto itself. I'm really curious how that leap happened, and whether it happened only once and spread to all of humanity from there or whether it was discovered multiple different times.
@@pedrodepacas-ic1cb the kind to go on random wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey adventures, save the universe, stuff like that
I don't want to set the world on fire
I just want to put a flame in your heart ❤️🔥
It's my desire. It's my desire.
Like any other form of artwork fire is an ever flowing, ever changing perspective...🤔
As a professional fire eater, can confirm. Stoll playing with fire, still getting burned😂
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Years ago when I was a young man I was in my apartment and needed to light the gas burner. The electric starter didn't work. I looked everywhere for a lighter, match or something to start it and could find nothing. I was literally ENRAGED!!! "I can't make fire! Basically level one of human achievement!" I got over it. I enjoy getting overly outraged at things for comedic effect.
You set my world on fire! 🔥
"Experts"
I remember gathering "cow patties" for a fire. They were completely dried out and did not have any odor.
Love it. Keep making awesome videos!
The origin of Agni.
Thanks for the report, good speech amen
I watched one of my autistic class mates make smoke with 2 sticks and alot of frustration. Bro discovered how to almost make a fire at 14. He grabbed a soft wood and a slightly harder stick and rubbed them up and down without any knowledge during lunch and actually burned the wood enough to scare him cause it smoked a little. I had to tell the teacher and he wasnt allowed outside for 6 months 😢. Honestly idk if its ingrained or just a byproduct of boredom, but we did it somehow
Honestly...I feel like we probably did this on accident A LOT before we did it on purpose 😂
We are all descended from whoever first figured out how to start a fire.
i love this channel
It was Ryan. Ryan started the fire.
oxygen sure loves ripping everything apart
There are some birds in Oz that light fires, whistling kite I think to flush out prey
04:37 Hadn't heard of paleolithic tool-makers heat-treating their source rocks before, that's cool! I knew early humans (amd surviving Aboriginal tribes etc) used fire to harden wooden speartips, but this info is new to me? Love the tidbits of new learning one gleans from SciShow content!
You guys missed perfectly good Beavis and Butthead jokes lol :-)
In the Age of Ancients the world was unformed, shrouded by fog. A land of gray crags, Archtrees and Everlasting Dragons. But then there was Fire and with fire came disparity. Heat and cold, life and death, and of course, light and dark. Then from the dark, They came, and found the Souls of Lords within the flame. Nito, the First of the Dead, The Witch of Izalith and her Daughters of Chaos, Gwyn, the Lord of Sunlight, and his faithful knights. And the Furtive Pygmy, so easily forgotten.
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Wtf?
@@enadegheeghaghe6369 it is Dark Souls intro
Everything in the known universe, including water, the earth and even what the wind blows was all made by FIRE. our end will also be by fire.
Hey, pretty good talk! great spokesperson.
We didn't start cutting holes with it, AKA with a torch, until just a blink of an eye ago, basically. 😂
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thanks Prometheus, now the humans are destroying the planet
Hey, he was punished enough for his crime.
We didn't started the fire
I'm curious how modern animals interact with wildfires, and how we can draw potential parallels between those animals and our ancestors.
When I hear about modern animals interacting with their terrain, it's usually water-based. For instance, beavers building dams, or I've also heard before that elephants divert rivers (unsure how accurate this is).
Some move in shortly after a wildfire as there can be many conveniently-cooked and recently-dead critters for eating.
Some birds camp out wildfires, catching fleeing prey animals
@@blackwidowrsa Not just that but there are birds here in Australia that will pick up burning twigs and drop them on areas to set them on fire to catch fleeing prey.
@@willsk3122 Yeah but that's _Australia._ You don't count. :P
@@willsk3122 Australia is fictional so it doesn't count
"fire world, i love you, fire world[...] Hello, my name is human, eh, And I came down from the stars"
"...burned rodents..." Yum! 🤣
"It was on FIRE!"❤❤
Aww you and Eons are Friends, I never knew! That's so cute.
Hello world
This is the first step toward the hydrogen bomb
Love her personality, the witty comments are the best
Come for the absence of jaguars, stay for the burnt rodent cacases - please Scishow make a tshirt.
Too long to still keep being burned by it.
I think many people forget that it took humanity hundreds of thousands of years to get to the last 100+ years of technology and civilization that we're all familiar with. 🤔
It is possible -- even probable -- that the 'secrets' of fire were learned and lost a few times before they were understood well enough to become permanent knowledge.
Let me rephrase that:
"When did humans become pyromaniacs?"
This video is sponsored by: Fire!
No wonder Zoroastrianism is both maybe the oldest known monotheistic religion and involves keeping a sacred flame lit 24/7.
Oldest monotheistic religion. Hinduism is still probably older. Also animism is even more ancient, so while non-specific, definitely older.
@@KitaBFawkes -- Thank you for the correction. I wrote my comment at 2 a.m. and it wouldn't do to leave out that distinction. Fixed.
@@Grizabeebles No problem. It's kind of a special interest of ours. Thank you for handling it with such grace.
Fluorine and chlorine can also make fire, looking very similar to the oxygen-driven fires
i thought the first firebenders were the dragons
There are birds that use fire to start new fires and does a tool they just don't create the initial fire and there's a good chance that humans simply kept fire going for much of our history the same way those birds do now before we actually got around to generating it ourselves from nothing.
Since before the fictional world of Farcry:Primal was set
I have seen crows spreading and putting out fires.
There's multiple species of birds that manipulate fire and use it as a tool though I don't know of any that consistently create a tool for creating fire. Definitely only a matter of time before some of the corvids figure out how to use our fire making tools.
Yay Savannah! They narrate with as much emotive energy as Hank. Hurrah!
Prometheus did us a real solid
Jaguars? in Africa?
What, I was told Prometheus discovered fire when the gods were invented
Prometheus didn't invent fire, he stole it from the gods, he did invent humanity tho
@@brieoconnor9824 I did not say Prometheus invented fire
So basically, humans are just a bunch of arsonists and I love it 🔥 🔥 🔥
On a related note: How long have we been wearing clothes?
Hi Savannah!
To develop an interstellar civilization, you must first produce fire.
My opinion: humans played with fire enough to evolve much less hair to survive playing with fire
Jaguars in Africa?
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Probably escaped from a Zoo.
oooo shiny and glowy 👀
30 on 30
No jaguars in Africa. Leopards, yes. Jaguars, no.
That makes it even funnier
"Sentient Apes" kinda implies the existence of non-sentient apes... :P
I'm curious to know what the use of fire taught our species about the concept of sacrifice. Throw more leaves and wood on fire to stay warmer, throw people on fire to make food grow bigger.
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Jeez, I had no idea how far back our ancestors began using fire! I was guessing that they didn't use controlled fires until 200 maybee 300 thousand years ago, at max
"Light it up"
The animals be like: Long ago, all of Nature lived in harmony. Then everything changed when the Humans evolved.
Hawks in northern Australia use fire to feed!
That sweater is soo cool!!!
Would the James Webb be able to detect byproducts of fire in the atmosphere of an exoplanet? Because if it can that might be an excellent potential biosigniature to look for, since fire needs both oxygen and fuel, thus both must constantly be replenished for fires to occur long-term on a planet.
Great video, great speaker lady, cool info,... and my daughter would LOVE that shirt 👍🙂
“Come for the absence of Jaguars, stay for the scorched rodent carcasses”
When are T-Shirts available?
*Sci Show proofreaders know there ain’t jaguars in Africa, which makes it even funnier, more farside-esque.
Humans: Oh God the fire! It's hot! It burns! I'm dying! Bleh.
Other humans: lol that was awesome, let's do it again!
*Israel-Occupied-Palestine
Otherwise great video. I enjoy the host, great jokes and delivery :)