Heavy VS actually heavy: Slipknot VS Suicide Silence
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both heavy. both different. both wicked. "my dad can beat up your dad"
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I mean the point of heavy metal is noise with some slight form of rhythm. But when you go as far as death metal it's just complete noise.
@@user-tq9sg6lv6qbiased view
@@user-tq9sg6lv6q true 😂😂😂
@@piercelawless2654 how is that biased, it’s true?
“What’s heavier? A kilogram of steel? or a kilogram of feathers?”
But steel is heavier than feathers
Slipknot is goated either way
@@velsparkz9687 fake ass metal band
Equal
Yeah but a kilogram of either weighs the same you just have a fk tonne more feathers 😂😂😂
"My dad is stronger than your dad" energy
I’m sure he is
There's already a comment from a year ago saying this
They're pretty similar. Not sure what your point is.
You deaf?
By the video length i think he just wanted to show his skills
personal preferences i think
The first one sounds more like power metal I think
Yeah these comparisons and all the "not heavy enough" stuff really makes no sense to me so I have to kinda laugh... Listen to what you like and don't worry about it.
Funny thing is one of Suicide Silence's biggest influences is Slipknot.
Giggling
Oh that's why they're so shit
source?
Óbvio
Still better. Mad respect to Corey but I'm a bigger Mitch fan
What’s heavy vs what’s also heavy 🤡
Correction: what's heavy vs what's heaver
@@user-fv9er3by5n my guy doesn't know what's a troll 🤡🤡🤡
Both these riffs aren't even heavy, even though I like the songs
@@MrBossFML i think hes reffering to the bands as a whole but just doing the riffs. When i was a fresh metal head years ago and before i was i thought slipknot was the heaviest shit ever. Now i can say suicide silence is actually heavy
@@fireelf8096 slipknot still heavy but not as much as SS
Can we all agree that gatekeepers automatically loose there credibility? Cuz who’s going to listen to someone who only talks about how what they like is better, and everyone else is stupid for not listening to it to?
I don't know man, it just makes me sad. Seeing a genre as incredible as this to be demoted to people like this you mentioned.
I think you're half-right. While people like the 1 in the video are annoying for using their knowledge as a point of superiority, the modern age has proven to me for the past 14 years that gatekeeping is *ABSOLUTELY* necessary.
Case in point, since their inclusion in *Stranger Things,* people have been trying to cancel *_Metallica_* for *NO* good reason, and someone has yet to provide a reason, except for they were rising in popularity again.
@@hisaceinthehole3426 I don’t like Metallica, but I’m biased because megadeth
@@thelettertwelve5789 thats fine. But whether you like them or not has no bearing on the point im trying to make, where newcomers are trying destroy things.
He's still entitled to his opinion + where is it written or said that if people don't listen to the "heavier" song they're stupid ?
Haven't cared about what's "heavier" since I was 17, just listen to music and enjoy it... don't enjoy it? Move the fuck on.
Instead you care about what other people care about lol irony
But, here you are, and seems you haven't grown up or moved on.
Fun fact opinions don't exist
@@user-fv9er3by5n irony of using an opinion to express that opinions don’t exist
Totally agree tired of being judged on the shit I listen to
This is entirely subjective.
Couldn’t agree more.
Not really. If you call a metallica track heavier than say, a guttural slug track the "muh subjectivity" excuse wouldn't work. Doesn't work on this one either
@@BigBoss_666 when the effects on the guitar are near similar, they both consist of chugging and normal playing on the lowest string. Then they end up sounding quite similar. So yes it is quite subjective
Especially this one
@@BigBoss_666 the definition of heavy itself is subjective. I don’t think most people would define heavy in such a matter that makes a metallica song heavier than a deathcore song, but who knows
I let my mom judge what's heavier. The devil in I: no wonder you are fucked up in the head.
To the hellfire: (screaming) turn this off right now.
”Here is a heavy song, here is another heavy song but this one i like”
i actually dislike both songs equally haha
Sure buddy @@JamieSlays
@@JamieSlays You're just digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole! Quit while you're behind Mate...
@@philsurtees sure
Like what you like, but Slipknot is only heavy to outsiders of heavy music. In other words, its "what people think is heavy" like the video said. The fact that most Slipknot fans discover the band at the ages of 5-14 through hearing it on public radio should tell you everything about its accessibility.
Not gonna lie, just using these two songs, that Suicide Silence song sounds like something Slipknot would write too 🤷♂️
@@13kellyr Lol you really just called slipknot power metal when Iowa exists.
especially from Iowa
@@TimeoutKB that was their like second album tho. They not that heavy anymore
@@13kellyr that’s a lie cuz their latest single is almost as heavy as Iowa with a bunch of death metal influence. Hell, WANYK was heavy asf. Especially solway firth
@@13kellyr slipknot nu metal bro
The Metallica shirt says it all
Username checks out
That Suicide Silence riff sounds like something Jim or Mick would write
Nice profile picture 😈
@@X-EvilAsh nice username edgelord
def mick
@@odipadio655 that's the name of the mask
@@malakaimillsap4484 that doesn't make it any less of a 14 year old edgelord username
The Slipknot riff legitimately sounds heavier. This is hilarious
@@Beezle66if he should choose a heavier SS riff then why shouldn’t he use a heavier Slipknot riff? comparing one of the band’s softer song to another’s heavier is extremely unfair you probably haven’t listened to Scissors, if you haven’t, go check it out its good🙂
@@surutaeyaisutsu9904he should've used disengage that riff is absolutely disgusting in any tuning
Both takes are entirely subjective
@@Carrion0409 Facts, when I opened this up I was expecting him to play that ngl 😅
@@SykodelikLeper64 “you don’t listen to this one band that uses razorblades as guitar picks? Must not listen to metal🤓” slipknot is legitimately heavier than a lot of “heavy” bands out there. 😂
Trolling at this point 😂
Yup, do not recommend this channel.
He 100% does these titles and videos to get people to comment and therefore it boosts the algorithm. Not sure if it's worth that your only "audience" is people hating on him and for a good reason
@@wm1573 To be loved, you must first be hated.
@@feebypeels2883 by doing obnoxious obvious troll shorts and titles doesn't count tho. It's different if he would make authentic content and people would hate him for no reason at first
He has to be. Slipknot may not be that heavy, but deathcore and more specifically suicide silence is the softest form of metal there is
Bongripper enters the chat..
"You think that's heavy?"
Man of culture 🤌 Nothing tops Sludge, shit is disgusting. Like carrying sandbags walking through a murky swamp lol. Seen Crowbar recently and felt like I needed a shower.
Still waiting to hear the heavy part...
Me too?! Practically sounds like George Michael ay!
These nu metal kids don’t have a clue lol
@@mattasaurus12 I'm 23
I thank my friends and family for never playing slipknot or suicide silence
LONG LIVE OS BRUTAL DEATH
@@mattasaurus12 your one of them
@@lucasplayz9543 lol nope
So..... i actually find the second one soft af
yeah, a lot of it is big distortion, which i, as a grunge fan, love, but it does seem pretty light sometimes
He made it sound weak. In the context of the song(with vocals, good drums and bass), riff sounds insanely heavy.
Just listen to the real song
@@aintfromrounhere8099what are the songs?
@@HelloEdits613 you only live once by suicide silence
These riffs are not only insanely close, but heaviness is super subjective.
That nu metal slink was never heavy to me, I’ll take electric wizard any day. This shit is just good to people that haven’t heard anything better,
@@mattasaurus12 You should listen to Slipknot's Iowa album, or Chimaira's self-titled album (my personal fav), or Korn. There is a bunch of great nu metal that you haven't listened to.
@@notamemethememe589 korn is terrible slipknot is worse.
@@mattasaurus12 Guessing you're an oldhead. Oh well, I love metal from all eras and many genres but if you wanna stay stuck in the 70s then that's you.
@@notamemethememe589 love plenty of modern bands like whores Boris and faceless burial. Don’t assume things
Heavy is a frickin attitude of not giving a crap what anybody thinks, playing what you love because it's in your heart.
exactly
So Taylor Swift is heavy ?
The second riff is just what happens when you discover drop tuning
Bro theyre both in drop A
@@satanistruth666 yeah I know but the second one just sounds like someone messing around the first time they decided to drop tune their guitar
@@NickKarmkkkkkk Yes
Agree, it feels like a bland rhythm from a doodling kid
@@NickKarmits a breakdown riff so no shit its simple. No one is playing 7/8 polymeter gallops for a breakdown
Ironically, I i actually think the Slipknot riff is heavier.
Absolutely, maybe the way the Suicide Silence song is presented overall in an album would make it heavier, but Slipknot is just as heavy
Slipknot is more punk than heavy. But they are heavy. People equals shit is my all time fav next to cowboys from hell or cemetery gates
@@brandonhuisman4351 No, Slipknot is absolutely not punk lol, deathcore bands have actually got more punk influence than Slipknot
*disrespects slipknot*
*every metalhead has joined the chat*
PEOPLE=SHIT
Shit I’ll defend him
My man 70% of metalhead population shit on slipknot
Slipknot sucks
But 100% will defend the band from taylor swift fans @@sunny28369
Maybe the real heavy is not judging all other music by your favorite song
Most pointless guitar related video award mate.. you won it 🏅 congrats 👏
Lmao
Triggered?
Whattayoutakinabeet
@Hide on room nope its called a joke. First time on the internet?
🤓
When you realize both are heavy-
name a heavy song from either of these bands
First one was much heavier, second one is just someone discovering the lower strings…
Yeah 😅
That is just wrong.......
@@fizzyfran2886 nope
@@user-fv9er3by5n who asked
Feels like someone’s balls dropped on the second😂
Ive said it before and ill say it again. The percussion section and bass determine the "heaviness" of the band. You can detune and hit all the palm muted zero notes, but without those other aspects, you're just a guy playing guitar instead of a force of nature with your band behind you. Slipknot has that down to a science.
“Here’s me playing a song, here’s me playing another song but with weird cringey faces thinking I look cool”
Or "man, I'm having fun playing those riffs"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Its a shemale leave It alone
🤣
@@loredanamassini9484 bro what? he just has long hair
Suffocation would have been something that actually slaps way harder then suicide silence
Yes, also Mortician or Crytopsy
or Dying Fetus
Or any ACTUAL metal band
Human waste EP 🤘
I only ever thought the first full length was heavy
Bro peaked in highschool.
Should have seen me in high school lol I’m 35 now and way cooler
@@JamieSlays if you're "way cooler" now then you must've been the dullest spot on earth in high school lmao. A 35 year old loser haha
@@aayushmanral2571why are you hating on him for liking music? Lmao
"bro peaked in highschool" says the guy who peaked in highschool
The "bro" that peaked in high school was Corey Taylor lol
The opening riff of “Wolverine Blues” by Entombed is still the heaviest thing I have ever heard
“My dad is richer and taller than your dad”
Probably. My dads not very rich lol
@@JamieSlays bruh that’s not what I meant LMAOOOOOOO
7-String Guitar. Plays 1 string.
7 string players buy a 7 string so that they can use exclusively that 7th string, 6 string players buy a 6 string so they can use all 6 strings. 8 string players buy an 8 string because they are too arrogant to swallow their pride and just go to bass where they belong, anyone who plays more strings just genuinely hates good tone
@@fnamelname8906some of the best players on the planet play extended range guitars, stop being such a close-minded hater. Tosin Abasi, Fredrik Thordendal, Steve Vai, Acle Kahney, Howard Alden… I could go on.
Also, name one guitarist that uses all strings on their guitar for every single song and I’ll call you a fucking liar, because there isn’t one. You can literally play two octaves on one string, I don’t get the beef.
And 6 string guitar already dips into standard bass range, genius, that’s what EQ is for.
I like you 😁👍
@@glassplanet5624 I see your Tosin Abasi and your Steve Vai and I raise you Dimebag Darrel, Eddie Van Halen, Chuck Schuldiner, and Marty Friedman.
@@fnamelname8906 my point wasn’t that the best players ONLY play extended range, my point was that extended range guitars are perfectly legitimate instruments used by incredible players and that crying about their existence is smooth brain behaviour
When people think Suicide Silence is heavy...
😂 garbage video
Suicide Silence isn't heavy???
@@daniellamy1585maybe he has slaughter to prevail or infant annihilator in his mind idk
@@hashbrown5148 Even if that's what he's trying to say, just because there are currently heavier acts, doesn't un-heavy Suicide Silence
*death metal, war metal, slam, goregrind and USBM have entered the chat
Saw Suicide Silence live... Hung out in the lobby until they had finished.
Then rejoined to see Static-X, Black Label Society, and Mudvayne.
First one actually has some rhythm and versatility, second one was just mindlessly chugging the lower notes.
and that's why the 2nd one was heavier
@@negativeincomemusic1470 but it’s trash
@@okbruhh L + ratio
@Leo yb better
Second one was just the beginning of the song it wasn’t even the main riff
0-1-3, 0-0-1-2-3benddddd
Oooo, so heavy.
This is cringe af bro
I mean there’s more to a heavy riff the just open or low fretting, theres distortion also in there bud, that’s kinda what heavy sound mainly is
@@kingtaco4064 Nah, I've heard heavier riffs off a mandolin.
Being heavy is a lot more than low tuning, distortion, and chugga-chugga chromatic riffing.
Both examples OP showed are bland, unoriginal, and not particularly heavy. Johnny Cash has written heavier riffs than these.
fr the slipknot riff is a lot heavier than suicide silence lazy riffs 🤣 emo kids smh
@@willcresson8776 thanks you literally just reiterated what I said which was pointless
@@kingtaco4064 lol you can't explain yourself properly and should feel shame.
Idgaf. Learn to articulate better.
Cannibal Corpse: Am I a joke to you?
Wtf is wrong with these kids
Obituary: Yes.
Devourment: yea
Lividity: yea
one thing about music that is extreme for the purpose of being exterem is it actually gets beaten up by newer music that is trying to be more extremer
The biggest thing that makes it heavy is the vocals and drums, blast beats and mitch vs corey and double bass yk
Bro actually fun fact I think guitars and distorsion are what makes metal music sound heavy
“Tell me you’re past you’re Slipknot phase without telling me you’re past your Slipknot phase” it’s okay bro, everyone comes back to the maggot side eventually😎
Also, why’d you pick a song off the 5th album lmao. Have some respect and pick sum off the self title or Iowa
@@ow_oso am I crazy or was he not even playing it right?
He should rename the video "Gatekeeping vs actual gatekeeping"
Slipknot is so corny ☠️
@@Dovahki1n yeah shits baby’s first metal band
Don't you lecture me on heavy while wearing a Metallica shirt
Why? Fight Fire with Fire is heavier than either of the songs he played.
Metallica is heavy.
The thing that should not be
🤣🤣🤣
True, Metallica is softer than room temperature butter
Humanity's Last Breath:
Hold my cataclysm💀
Thank you! Dude thought he was cooking 😂
neither are heavy. listen to knoll as spoken if you think this is heavy.
Nice gatekeeping, bud. Those are both heavy riffs
I don't think an actual gatekeeper would like SS or slipknot lol
@rjcary84 The real gatekeeping assholes outright shit on any band not from Northern Europe.
@@Rob_Carygatekeepers are the equivalent of “my dad could beat your dad” when they’ve never met your dad💀
what band would be you're dad@@thelettertwelve5789
Both of these are “heavy” and pretty similar stylistically I guess your preference geared more towards hard screaming/screeching?
They’re shitty, slinky nu metal and deathcore bands. Barely call that crap metal. There’s such better stuff in the world.
Yes bro
I wish I could dislike this twice
That’s ok. I’ll slap myself for you if that helps
@@JamieSlays please make shorts about this.
@@JamieSlays please do
As someone who has very little knowledge to determine what is considered “heavy” or not, they both sounded like the exact same music genre.
Shows how influential that Slipknot-style riffing really is, whether the artists realize it or not.
What YT guitarist think is heavy: down tuned guitar with porgrammed drums
What actually is heavy:
Real drums, guitars and BASS
@@Johnnymack666 nope, nice try though haha
^ objectively wrong person
Some people think theyve heard heavy, theyve only scratched the tip of the iceberg
Canibal Corpse/Gojira in my heart
I agree with this statement.
I came here expecting to be annoyed and am delighted at how level headed and mature people are being
Good one
Thats fine because I dont listen to songs because of how heavy they are. My step brother came in my room when I was listening to slipknot and he said "Bro put on the Iowa album thats the heaviest they have" and I asked him "Is how heavy it is all you care about?" and I wanted to kick him out of my room seeing him nod his head.
Thank you for this comment. Finally someone understands!
What the hell kind of boring ass story was that?
Riff 1: Heavy in regular time
Riff 2: Heavy in half time
Every Slayer riff from the 80ies eats these riffs for breakfast.
@Slulzspot Slayer is E flat from start. Downtuned a half step. And Black Sabbath played a lot in C# standard. Your argument is invalid.
@@Angelrat666”if it’s not tuned as low it’s not as heavy” 🤡
Slayer was a way more intense band
Yes, Slayer easily beats this in terms of heaviness, but they sacrifice quality for speed and heaviness. The thing about these bands is that they produce memorable, well-made songs that aren't the exact same as every other song on the album. Even better, they evolve with each album. Slayer is still stuck where they were at the beginning (if not worse) and that's not a good thing. It's a good debut but it's unacceptable as a career.
That's just my ¢2. No hate to you, keep on listening! Hell, I enjoy Slayer from time to time.
@@Moderate_Rock The quality is part of the heaviness. Making metal that is incredibly polished just defeats the purpose.
Also, I don't agree that just playing the lowest three notes on a guitar creates anything memorable. It just creates the impression of it being heavy without substance.
@@bleblo13 A mistake on my part. I didn't mean the literal quality, I meant the enjoyability, I guess? I love shoegaze and punk music so quality is typically no issue for me.
Honestly, and neither of them are really all that heavy IMO
Metal bands have abandoned all pretense of writing actual songs for "chugga-chugga".
0
0-1-3
0 0 0 0
0-1-3-2beeend
Its all so fucking cliche and boring these days. Fucking Americana artists are writing heavier shit than this. Heavy isn't all low tuning and distortion.
Fr😂
devil in i is one of the soft slipknot songs, slipknot has songs like gematria that blow the roof off any suicide silence song instrumentally, and if we’re talking all out heaviness, we can talk about iowa, in which it matches heaviness from suicide silence songs, vocals are subjective but overall vibe is heavier or as heavy on a lot of songs there
Slipknot is sorta heavy. But heavy is subjective :)
the riffs don't really matter it's the vocals
The second riff is meaty at best my good sir
Slipknot was my gateway into metal. I hadn't heard anything like it until them.
They are pretty similar. Would make more sense if you went from slipknot to like slam or sludge metal
as log as it's real slam like medic vomiting pus not abominable putridity
Vs really actually honestly heavy : anything written by Chuck Schuldiner.
Gold medal 🥇
Probably every single lead written by chuck has more soul than 99% of modern metal releases
@@dervpool over here spitting FACTS man
I mean i love chuck to death. But a lot of what he writes is just not heavy for the sack of heavy. Especially from human onwards is way more melodic and other more prog/power influences
its even funnier bc chuck's tuning is a step down and both of these are in Drop A
dawg the devil in i riff is heavy and beautiful.
I remember when I thought slipknot was heavy
First riff sounds very nice! Fear Factory vibes!
Last days of humanity - this is really heavy
LDOH is way too heavy for most people here
Yes a new band for me to check out hell yeah
@@Cacle900 not new at all but definitely a legendary band worth checking out
@@slaythembeforeme ight
First Days of Humanity is also very heavy.
Lol good troll sir
"Heres a riff and heres a riff with a stink face."
So what makes something heavier is the rhythm being slower?
I like how he looks like he's carrying the heaviest guitar in the world🤣
Pfft... Should've played the intro riff of People = Shit.
Or the breakdown riff of the heretic anthem
Both songs are pretty damn heavy, each one in its own unique way
Do you listen to metal? Or just deathcore and nu metal?
@@mattasaurus12Your question makes no sense. "Do you listen to metal or just metal?" Nu metal and Deathcore are both metal genres.
@@ashleykirin3893 they are alt metal. Nu metal isn’t pure metal, sorry. Shits trite
Slipknot is still heavy it just depends on which song you listen to
give me a song
Oh cool. A Metal RUclipsr with a gatekeeping mindset. Just what everyone needed more of.
I’m not a gatekeeper :) but I understand how the title could mislead that opinion
is it possible to gatekeep the most popular poser bands
I remember when metal used more than just the open string and the first 3 frets…. Good times they were.
Go listen to them songs then boomer
Then the dark times, then Djent came...
For real, though. Johnny Cash has written heavier shit than this.
@@willcresson8776 Yeah but people think of djent as just open string chugging but those bands use it hell of a lot of technical riffs, just try and learn some of periphery riffs and solo's, djent also contains alot of aspects of progressive metal, yeah the breakdowns are just 0's but the stuff mixed in there is some of the most technical you can get, as much as it isn't my style personally, Periphery and Bands like Animals as leaders can pretty much play whatever they want
go home dad
@@heavenly2k listen to real metal nu metal baby
What's not heavy? The band on your shirt...
that wasn't even a great example of a heavy slipknot riff, I would've suggested something like Gently
They are Relatively the same ;-; I like both bands so we good 😂🖤
Kreator says "hold my beer child"
Yessss
I heard a lot of chugging, I’m waiting to see which one wasn’t heavy.
First riff was heavier. Second was what my band would call butt chords. Plus for proper heavy it matters what the drums do.
Guy needs actual human interaction
Yeah. I’m rather lonely. Come on over
@@JamieSlays I’m going to play hard to collect like a Pokémon card but I’m subbed now! Got damn love a person that talks back!
Should've been Unanswered 🔥
Right there are way heavier suicide silence songs lmao
Inefficient playing by moving your arm all the way up the neck while you have to hit notes on the bottom of the neck
Actually they’re both heavy
True true
Love that suicide silence song you only live once. Awesome work bro
I remember being young enough to argue over dumb shit like this.
Yeah not worth it now if we’re 36+
Slipknot actually had me bobbing my head up and down
"Here's my preference, which is why it's better"
Which one is better
@@JamieSlays that's a matter of opinion. Just because the slipknot riff is faster doesn't make it any less good.
@@grahamlopez3742 just so I understand. I never said one was better than the other. I also never said heavier means better. So yeh. Sorry if that’s how it came across
@@JamieSlays it's all good man
Imagine thinking suicide silence is heavy lol
💯
I mean, let people think what they what to think.
@@someguy7448 No
@@someguy7448 No.
Imagine only listening to suicide Silence after they replaced Mitch
Lol 14 yr old me, "wow Demon Hunter is so heavy" lol 19 year old me when I met my now husband "becoming the archetype it is."
You can take one guitar riff and play it over different drums and bass, also with different timing, and all of them them will have a different feel and sound
Slipknot still, and will always take the cake. Bow down to the sic(ness)
why
Should’ve did “And then she bled” or “Disengage. The Cleansing is full of straight classic bangers
"And Then She Bled..." & "Disengage" are on "No Time To Bleed".
The fallen is heavy asf
Unanswered or bludgeoned to death for me but yea that whole fuckin album is amazing
Bro I’ve never seen anyone with that shirt besides me, that’s crazy
I could agree with the sentiment, but you did cut off Slipknot's riff when it gets heavier
Bleed from within writes the heaviest music
Gonna go look them up and listen to a new band I'm excited! You're Aces man rock on!
After the burial have you heard them?
There's no way you're serious
Disagree.... Although their new album is good, I wouldn’t say they compose the heaviest music. I say compose, cuz so very few heavy metal artists actually WRITE music. As from what I’ve gathered being a Bassist for over 30 years.
Any slaughter to prevail riff destroys bleed from within. Even if it’s not nu metal
Bruh they both break the scale.
OBESE
🤣@@JamieSlays
You want ACTUALLY heavy? Listen to Death - Symbolic like a real man.
Art of dying-Gojira. Thank me later
nah, death shits on gojira.
@@EMG81xTHRASHER Both are great progressive death metal bands.
both "heavies" are most excellent. thank you god of metal!
I lovee the shirt :D
Im a simple man, chugs and blast beats mean shits about to get crazy.