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Dude, your videos have to be the most original anywhere. It's a rare gift to make any subject matter entertaining, no matter how dark. The animations are always crazy and fun. KEEP 'EM COMING!!!!!
@@spartan_warrior5927 Agreed. MrBallen is a worthy follow. Seriously. I gave up Cable TV over RUclips years ago when shows like this were still in their literal infancy.. Screw NETFLIX these days.. TBH, I can find any decent TV series or movie for free anyhow. YT is the free streaming service that trumps any paid service. MrBallen produces better stuff than I have seen on television which had millions of dollars for a budget.
I'm happy these stories are being covered even more. A lot of people forget that Hitler wasn't the only evil dictators during the last 100 years, his death count doesn't even compare to most; Stalin, Mao, Pol, Hirohito(he and Hitler are pretty close), and Leopold in Africa.
@@MJW238 Of course in human death it compares, taking life for ridiculous reasons is just that. But a lot of people, especially here in America thinks it was only Hitler and even some of those people doesn't know anything about the holocaust. Some think that Trump has a higher body count than Mao.
If I'm truly honest, I'm 10x more likely to buy ten sets of X-Sheets LED bed sheets, than I would be to ever consider playing RAID Slightly Altered Cloned Legends.
I'm lying awake at 2am, blinded by the bluish artificial light from my LED bedsheets thinking "At least I didn't download RAID whatever the fuck that was".
History isn't always pretty but we have to keep it or it will be repeated. Thank you for sharing this. I love the way you explain these things in such a captivating way.
That's a very interesting story. I'd never heard of Nazimo Island before. Stalin never seems to be as reviled as Hitler, and, to be sure, Hitler's atrocities are a horrible stain on human history, and being called a Nazi is rightly seen as a grave insult. But I think Stalin should be mentioned in the same breath as Hitler. He was, arguably the greater evil. Stalin was personally responsible for more murders than Hitler. Perhaps calling someone a Stalinist should be held in the same regard as being called a Nazi.
Dude I not only agree but I’ll raise the bid. When stalins biological son attempted suicide. The benevolent leader in all his wisdom and glory said. And I’m quoting keep in mind. “The bastard can’t even shoot straight.” Really take a moment and think about that. How absolutely detached from all good you would have to be to dare utter those words under such circumstances. Hitler is always talked about (in America at least), as the supreme of all evils. But to be honest, he was a child playing with toys as compared to Stalin or Mao xe dong. (Idk if you’d care or not) but there is a poem Marx wrote in his teens. I believe it’s called iron throne. Or something to that effect. And it really helps to understand what kind of person Stalin was. To have followed and beloved a person like that. Jordan Peterson did a reading of it, if audio format is more your thing.
The trouble is that the "liberal world order", as Brandon calls our new overlords including himself, wants Stalin to be seen as a great man and revered. They market communism (basically socialism under government direction) as the opposite of fascism but if you compare real fascism (not what the main stream media, public schools and and left wing politicians call fascism) with communism you realize they are much more alike than they are different.
Just last summer (August 2021), yet another Soviet mass grave was uncovered , in Odessa, containing the remains of people killed during the great purge. During the kulak purge alone, about 2 million innocents were driven to the wilderness and were left to die. These weren't some "evil capitalist oppressors", most rural craftsmen were labeled as kulaks, no matter how rich or poor. Every farmer that had a stone house while his neighbours had wooden houses, was a kulak. Every farmer that had a 2-floor house while the rest had 1-floor houses, was a kulak. Then there's the Holodomor of course, were at least 3.5 million people died in a man-made famine (primarily Ukrainians) , but the number could be way higher. People were forced to engage in cannibalism to survive. Let's not forget the ethnic cleansing due to forced relocation/deportations: during his reign Stalin relocated, among others; the Koreans, Poles, the Kola Norwegians, Romanians, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, the Volga Germans, the Ingrian Finns, the Finnish of the Karelian, the Crimean Tatars, the Crimean Greeks, the Caucasus Greeks, the Kalmyks, the Balkars, Crimean Italians, the Karachays, the Meskhetian Turks, the Karapapks, Chechens and Ingushs. Some of these groups had their entire male population deported to Gulags. Speaking of, the vast majority of the Gulag population were innocent. During the periods of mass arrests when the NKVD would get quotas, people would get taken away, tortured until they signed prewritten confessions, and get sentenced to 10 years of labour in the gulags, under article 58. Millions of people shared this fate. There's many other examples, for example if a teenager would pick an apple from an orchard he would get sent to the gulag, as that was stealing from the state. Even red army soldiers that got captured by the Germans and later returned to Russia, were sent to the gulags, as they were "traitors who let themselves get captured".
That's why Americans will never give up their firearms. Even Karl Marx said for the "workers" to never give up your guns and ammo. Smart dude for a homicidal maniac.
@@roybegley2051 The homicidal maniacs were his political successors. Marx himself warned people about the destructive power of autocrats and similar authoritarian powers(being intimately familiar with them, living in an absolute monarchy). Which is why he called for a revolution of the working class/serfs against their slave owners, which in itself was more than justified. Marx probably would have had a stroke if he knew what people in the future did in his name, especially Stalin. His ideology of unity among workers/the common citizen being corrupted and used by a dictator to assume absolute power and abuse the common person.
@@AsobiMedio Marx ideas for a government sound awesome but peeps gonna peep especially when half your nation are starving and the other half will be sent to the gulag for standing up for their human rights of feeding themselves and their families
@@danieltukua4527 the right idea has led to over 300 million people dead. Communism is a pipedream that will never come to fruition. I would like nothing more than to see the world get along and everyone has all they need to live healthy and productive lives but that'll never happen. Human nature will see to that.
This is what totalitarianism brings to the world and we must never forget. When people defend Stalin, Mao, or any of them putting Hitler as the only evil guy to ever exist...these facts flash through my mind. Part of my family died in the Holocaust and I still don't forget the millions of others who suffered and still suffer under other regimes.
Thank you for keeping the memory of such events alive. We can't learn from history if no-one can hear it. Critical thinking is a vital skill. Thoughty is here to make sure we don't forget the lessons of history.
I cant blame people for not assassinating him. To kill a dictator, you need some serious planning and absolute loyalty, since if anyone talks everyone is finished. When dealing with Stalin, who was even more brutal then Hitler himself, fear outstrips everything else.
This was good. Heartbreaking, twisted and unimaginable material, but important. No, we should never forget. We are fortunate generations to not know this kind of horror, but only because of those of us who watch "Leaders" and raise awareness. I have to comment on YOU! My goodness, you have a new kind of confidence. It's comfortable... and still wildly engaging. Good on ya!
@@Aramis419 Agreed. 🌱I listen to this sweet man named Dr. Todd Grande. He has a very dry sense of humor and many of his analysis of the tragedies that he covers he may occasionally utilize humor. Some criticize him… I find it necessary for him to continue his work🌱 Well, wherever you are be safe and be kind,besides what else have you to do?🪁🏄🏼♀️🪁
When you mentioned that film in the beginning, I immediately thought of the book Lord of the Flies. A fictional account of what happened when a group of English schoolboys was stranded on an island, it was based on accounts the author had read of people placed in isolated locations with little or no supplies and no other human contact. Readers were appalled by what he wrote BUT, as he told friends while he was writing the book and after it was published, so called 'civilized' behavior disappears in larger group in this situation with the behavior disappearing faster as the size of the group goes up. It looks like desperate people start losing their sense of personal responsibility and morality in larger groups. And it doesn't matter WHY they were in their situation, just that they were there. He also remarked to many of his friends that it was horrifying that the largest groups were deliberately put into an isolated, contained enviroment and starved by some of the worst dictators/despots the world has ever known.
I immediately thought of Lord of the Flies too. The human need to survive at all costs turns many people into selfish monsters, as does the need for power over the people they deem "inferior". It is of the utmost importance that we never forget that these events actually happened. Like the saying goes "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it", and if what is happening in the world these days (such as Putin's invasion and genocide of Ukraine) is any indication, it will definitely happen again if we don't pay attention.
Not to fearmonger, but look at what may be coming. World economic collapse, world food shortages, world fuel shortages and more. Whatever the cause look at the possible outcomes. War, societal collapse, anarchy. This may or may not happen, but prepare for a long hard time, a long dark night. And a dawn will come, but when?
As a counterpoint 6 Tongan schoolboys stole a boat for an adventure got stranded on a remote and mostly desolate island, and worked together to survive for over a year, including taking care of their friend who broke his leg until it healed.
These situations have happened in Shanghai during zero-covid lockdown in last month. Building councils and guards kept the food as bargain tool to trade for whatever they wanted. Old people committed suicides due to starving.
That's the one thing that will never cease to keep me up at night, the history that was never recorded or recordings that are lost to history. One can only draw upon hypotheticals but we will never know and not knowing is a horrifying concept unto itself but for some untold stories maybe knowing is an even more horrifying concept.
I never even made it up to 4 minutes with this and decided not to watch it as soon as he started telling the story . I'm just too squeamish and sometimes don't want to hear about horrible things
Thanks for this story from the reality, thought it was so horrible I almost couldn't hear it out. It's important that we never forget a happening like this, you have perfectly right. But the human beings are forgetting most, when times are good. And therefore it can happen again.
@@katekrylov Yes! Witch horrors who goes on in the dictatorship countries in the world, we can imagine out from from the history. Maybe. Evilness can never be understood, but we must belive and accept that it exists. Try to fight it if we can in our own environment, and help as good as we can global. But those poor people behind the fences... If the world trying to help those people, then we have world war 3. Mao Zedong killed 30 mill of his own, in peace time. Stalin was even worse. There are forces in our part of the world to, that are willing to pay with the human life's, as many as it takes, to get power. In my opinion the world hasn't been in greater danger, since world war 2. With the suffering of innocent people. Children, that's the worst to think about, how many children that has suffered and died, still suffering and dies, because in the eyes of the political power, their life's are without value. Happens everywhere. I could cry my eye's out. I have done my best for justice my whole life, just to find out, that there are non. Forgive me if I sound negative, but human beings suffering makes me almost mad. 🌹
@E Van Thank you so much for your answer with all the facts, you really know the history of Russia and communism! 🌹 And you are also pointing to a important thing, it's not always religion who caues the misery's of killing millions of human beings, and also starting war. Hitler and his "staff", were all ateist! Hitler and Stalin was cooperating under world war 2, The first they cooperated with, was the horrors in Poland. But of course, they were both paranoid, so the cooperation failed after a while. But the camp's for destruction of jews and others was built in a hurry there. I manage to read about this things, but if I happen to watch TV , I brake. I saw a picture once, that has burned it's way into my mind. A fat German "doctor", with a big grin in his face, is holding a Jewish baby in his arms. The baby is a skeleton, and about to die. This picture has become the symbol and the truth about real cruelty and evilness.
@UCpeiUNAGonm029M0cTVubPQ Indeed! But the opposite has happened, when a communistic dictator went in to a election of president in USA, manipulating it to get a surten man to power. Many things were happening under this person's regime. Without one single reaching and consequence! While we in Europe, who always has seen USA as the most important alliance, were watching with fear and anxiety. So that it can happen also in our part of the world? Easily!
This one hit different. I feel like you made it with deliberate intention of informing the public, rather than just an interesting story as per usual. Much appreciated.
Just finished your book "Stick a Flag in It" and enjoyed it immensely. Great channel and thank you for your hard work. I actually can't believe this one slipped past me.
A great video as always but I feel like it was glossed over just how minor some of the crimes of these poor people were. There’s stories of some people being sent here for things as minor as not having their identification documents on their person when they went to the shops, or being caught with perceived western media.
i would watch it . the world is not depressing , it's a beautiful place . the news is depressing , always will be . if it does not affect you personally , switch the telly off ; )
Stuff like this is why history needs to be studied, understood, and used to prevent things like this from ever happening again......not ignore it or erase it like it never happened
Arran's channel here is in the Top Ten in all of RUclips. His sensitive and thorough coverage of this indescribably horrific atrocity is the reason he is so highly regarded.
I have to confess that no matter how gory, dark, depressing, despicable, and horrifying the subject is, you find a way to make it hella entertaining. Now I'm ready for some extreme rest, which is not to be confused with extreme arrest, for that afterglow.
I was nominally impressed that whoever did the stone-age, info-graphics style animation, in the interest of historical accuracy, actually went to the trouble to depict the guard’s rifles as some generic representation of what appears to be the quite plausible (although not actually produced until 1939) Mosin-Nagant M38, (later as the M44 carbine) a shortened-barrel version of the 91/30, a bolt-action WWI ERA Russian military rifle chambered in the powerful 7.62x54r round, similar to the American 30.06 hunting rifle. They probably thought no one would notice, so I posted this comment.
Sir, for reasons that I will not speak of, I really need to thank you for an immeasurably important point that you made in this excellent presentation. *We must never forget these events (paraphrase).* In one individual (Stalin) the embodiment of countless evil existed... even in so-called "democracies." Using "human nature" as an excuse for *anyone* to commit atrocities against their fellow human beings is shameless, and disgraceful. Thank you, *Thoughty 2.* You are amazing! ♡☆♡
That fake commercial honestly blew my mind. I was thinking “holy shit that sounds like a terrible idea” then you came in and put my brain back together
It must been terrible even for the 200 survivors that simply went from one absolutely hell hole to another hell hole. Stalin was absolutely no joke mass murdering so many people. A good job you did and you did very to remind not to forget this horror.....
0:21 Sounds like the book called Lord of the flies The plot concerns a group of British boys who are stranded on an uninhabited island and their disastrous attempts to govern themselves.
@@herrschmidt5477 I read when I was at school. See below! Lord of the Flies is a 1954 novel by the Nobel Prize-winning British author William Golding. The plot concerns a group of British boys who are stranded on an uninhabited island and their disastrous attempts to govern themselves. Themes include the tension between groupthink and individuality, between rational and emotional reactions, and between morality and immorality.
I always think of the 16+ year old kids signing up to the army as a real life Hunger Games. Thinking they're defending their country, being patriotic, unaware of the disposable pawns they really are while grown men play battleships with their lives. That's no reflection on their bravery or sense of duty... But the truth of the wars they are signed up to fight are very rarely honourable. And for what? To be killed or tossed aside homeless and forgotten about.
@@mommalion7028 the first sentence you said ...absolutely! I said individually they are brave, etc. The second sentence is what's "wrong" ... Not your comment is wrong...but you're belief in that sentence is what's wrong... let's say America, for example, tell me how the US military is protecting Americans...right now? They have their military stationed in at least 40 other countries right now, and make no mistake that they are there for control. They'll be "told" they are there to help a fighting area keep peaceful...but those people in that country are entitled to air their grievances with neighbouring people and be left to sort it out themselves. Most of these places have not asked their "allies" to come to their defence. They resent the American military being in their country. It's no coincidence as to WHY the "East" is so f*cked off with the "West". If they've not been asked for their help, then they are only there for the benefit of America...mostly OIL! The "army" feels they are protecting a vulnerable area, doing good. But that's not why "those as the top" have sent them there.... 🤔 Right now the Ukrainian military is protecting their country... And it's not a fight they chose. That's defending a country.... How is the US army protecting Americans right now? America's not under attack is it...? As I said the individuals themselves have trained with honourable intentions... During their career they will no doubt serve an honourable cause...at least that's how it's made to appear. But at least the Hunger Games is upfront about it's bloodthirsty need for entertainment. It's a competition, blood sports. I'm not saying the US military work alone, a lot of other countries' armies bolster up the numbers. It's a joint effort, but the war torn areas are NOT the real battle that's taking place. The real war is being fought over control, resources and profit, back in Washington, London, Paris, Berlin...."negotiations" are really a bartering session between who gets what share of what. If the oil dried up tomorrow, America would be heaving with unemployed military with nothing to do.
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 as a U.S. vet, I agree with most what you say, it's an odd position. Knowing we must have a capable military, not always agreeing or understanding with foreign policy, our involvement in other's affairs that haven't requested it. Soldiers are told they can't see the Big Picture, that they must complete their task as well and perfect as possible, or it breaks down, and the Big Picture is always a noble cause. Hard to argue one way or other if you truly don't understand the big picture, I just performed my duties as well as I could, and knew I would never follow an order I knew was immoral, inhumane for no purpose other than cruelty, never do anything I couldn't tell my mother, or keep me from looking my children in the eyes. " I did my best" or " I just did as I was told." doesn't buy my innocence. Still, I love my country, and would become inhumane, cruel, what I had to do to remove an enemy from it, had respect for enemies that felt the same, look me in the eye and spit in distaste. Can't stand cowards. I only disagree about oil. I don't think oil has near as much to do with most of our actions as most do, if any. It's a nice distraction, but we don't really need anyone's oil, not at all.
@@If6turnsouttobe9 I'm so grateful for your honest reply! I've never been in the military so my comment was more from an outside perspective... I appreciate you saying that you're told what to do and trust it's for a greater cause. Of course for you all to work seamlessly and alertly that makes sense, if you were all raising concerns every five minutes you'd be all over the place. But still, I don't think you're told the whole truth. More likely fed something that you're comfortable with agreeing to. The people in the military are honourable and brave, it's the powers that be, that give the orders that I don't trust. I don't know much about the oil situation, so you may well be right in that regard, but we could use oil to represent something a country has, that America wants to control. "The military" is such a faceless organisation and I still feel that they use your patriotism, to make you do things that are deceitful. But as individuals you're also somewhat dispensable. Invisible. Pawns on a chess board, played by a handful of men competing for control. It's those egos at the top I don't trust. I really appreciate your honest insight. I can't imagine how awful it must be to be a parent waving off an adult child, particularly when you know they're heading to fight. I'm glad you're back home with your children now. 😘😘😘
"It's like bringing a load of heroin to a drug den and then expecting an orderly queue" Hey, I resent that! As an ex addict, we are experts at waiting. I formed an orderly queue to get into the guy's van with several other people dozens of times! *This is intended in a tongue in cheek manner
I remember when battle royale was talked about a lot. Still haven't seen it but always thought it inspired a wake of battle royale type stories in different mediums.. Guess it was inspired by real life instead.
I’ve seen it: the Katniss of the film went on to play O-Ren Ishi’s bodyguard Gogo in Kill Bill. Despite the extremely similar plots Suzanne Collins swears she’s never heard of Battle Royale, let alone seen it (even though the novel Battle Royale was published 9 years earlier.)
"as far as eggs go, joseph stalin was a particularly bad one." the urge to get this quote into at least one history essay before i graduate at the end of this year
I was fooled by the photo you used of ghost ship island and thought there was some story I didn't know about Crater lake! Very informative story though, thanks for telling
I just love the Bible when it comes to moral decisions. You can justify just about anything if you study it closely enough. Not eating your fellow corpse would result in you deciding to die, which is suicide which is a mortal sin. ( red hot pokers up the arse for eternity ). So tuck in and enjoy your fellow man.
You didn't mention Mao Zedong. His "Great Leap Forward" led to, among other atrocities and general psychotic horribleness, the greatest famine in history and he was ultimately responsible for up to 55 million deaths -- in only FOUR YEARS (1958 - 1962). By contrast, Pol Pot (born wealthy AF, btw; just like Che Guevara) and his Khmer Rouge were responsible for approx 2 million (1975 - 1979).
Strangely, the case of the Donner Party of pioneers heading for California who got stranded in the winter snow shows that those who resorted to cannibalism didn’t fare too well. Those who refused human flesh were more likely to survive. I have no idea why, or how they did it, they had just snow to drink and trees and grass to chew on, but some made it through winter without food.
I keep thinking...why didn't they attack the guards? It seems like they could have overwhelmed them pretty quickly. Then they'd have had the barges to use as shelter, or to escape. But then again, they'd have needed to band together and risk their individual lives to do that. That's a hard ask, especially when you're already weak from hunger, and sick.
@@katekrylov the river being strong would make it hard your going to swim towards people with rifles, if the river doesnt get you, or the bullets, your ontop of the raft and have to fight, after starving, freezing, little sleep, exhausted from the swimming trip, against people who are wellfed, warm and cozy, with rifles and most likely melee weapons even if their not trained, shouldnt be to hard to wack a couple that manage to even get to the raft and try to climb onboard
Because people are individuals whose main goal is not to die. Organizing would mean stick out to be the target. Also people are mentally weaker than you realize, they can be reasoned with, lied to, manipulated when their futures are uncertain. Just tell them more food will be coming tomorrow and they’d wait another day. Promise them personal favors and you’ll have them literally eating out of your own hand. The moment someone organizes something to scale they out themselves and will be killed. Even if they do succeed in overtaking the guards and taking the barges guess what they’re still dead as there are more units lined up all along the river and surrounding villages. It just takes one radio message and they’re all gonna be hunted down like animals simple as that. Can you subdue every one of the hundreds of soldiers in less that 5min? Because that’s literally the amount of time it would take for a guy on watch to alert someone up the chain to the radio room to start broadcasting a sit rep. With all this in consideration how many people you think you can organize? Even if you’d be willing to die for your brethren it’s not guaranteed everyone feels the same way. You’ll be the the first to dive in and the first to get shot. People behind you will see that and a lot will be too scared to move. So you died for nothing in the end but at least you wouldn’t have to suffer in the future. But others are not that brave or calculating they rather take their chances and see what happens. And that is human nature.
@@yoface938 good points. I also thin that the basic instinct is the instinct of self-preservation. And we don't know who those people were and where from initially: imagine a bunch of unprepared, civilian city folks in the wilderness!
Literal hell on earth.. whenever I first read about this, I was traveling a dark rabbit hole late at night a few days after reading about Albert Fish, that and this story absolutely shocked me to the core. The depths of human depravity pushed to the absolute limit.. one by choice, the other by threatening life and pressing normal civilians to desperate, horrific measures.. if we're not in hell already, then I simply can't imagine..
@@abhinavsharma5935 the Kansas City butcher is a.. disturbing read.. and they posted some of his collection of photos online as well.... he's not too well known, but he's just about as fucked up as Dahmer. I only know about him because my home town is an hour from where it happened
Wow 🤩!!? Your narrative and delivery is amazing! I love the fact that even when telling such a difficult and harrowing tale .. you sprinkle just enough humour into your storytelling to keep us sane and actually enjoy the experience!! .. while at the same time shuddering and wrapping our minds around such events that defy sanity… I look forward to hearing more from you my dear friend.. but hey… you have such a lovely voice.. I could probably just listen to you reading a telephone directory?!! lol 😝- just kidding… the content of your stories is also amazing 🤩!!! Well done!
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I find I think about this incident at least a couple times a month. When someone says stupid shit like, "People are inherently good," or worse "such horrible things don't happen in real life" it makes me sick. I want to make certain that people watching this understand how delicate Thoughty2 was with how, and what, he presented. The details you heard, aren't as bad as what you didn't. Great video Thoughty, very tasteful for such an unsavoury topic.
Besides the fear and heartbreak I feel watching this video, it also blows my mind how people can say history is boring. What humanity has done over the course of our time on this planet, is both terrifying and exhilarating. It’s anything but dull, explore your interests and you'll find something that fascinates you from the past. Love this channel, so happy over four million people agree but I still wish more people saw your content because I think they would appreciate the subject as a whole more
It's because how it's given at school and how exams are taken. I remember we almost had to memorize all meaningless details to get grades. Motivation drops quickly this way. It's not like watching movies on RUclips this way.
Its the same thing with people saying reading is boring. At school they are forced to read certain books that are boring to them and think all reading is like that. Then they never pick up another book again unless they have to.
@@origami83 I dunno, I'm almost 40 and enjoy reading. But at school studying wasn't quite like reading. Reading for fun, nothing's gonna happen if you forget a detail or two. But at school if you don't pass you fail, and it impacts your life socially as well. You have to do this year after year 8h per day. I think it takes away the motivation for many and creates some sort of anti-reaction. I don't think it's illogical.
I'd be interested to hear more about Mussolini. You never hear about him, except in History class I guess. Maybe some of the others that no one talks about. Thanks for the vid. Always well done. I love history and wish we could have had your vids back then! 🙏💔
My Lord I’ve never heard of this. How can something so incredibly horrific go without a worldwide spread? Were the people that knew killed or threatened to be? And how the later humanitarian group found what they did, how long did that take? You probably said so, but it never should have happened, and even though it did, it absolutely never should have been kept as quiet as it did. I feel I should thank you for bringing this up, for educating me about it, yet at the same time I’m so disgusted with humanity, the ones that sent them, that I lose even more faith in us. I’ve always known Stalin was one huge P.O.S., but this takes it to a whole new level. With as much sincerity as I can deliver, I absolutely hope that man is serving eternity burning in the hottest fires of hell. And if he had kids, and they are still alive, they should be kept watch upon. I cannot blame generations of successors for what he did, but let’s not take any chances. Unbelievable.
You must not understand human nature or have been paying attention in the last couple of years of emergency powers (C19, climate change, etc) used to segregate, collapse economies, food supplies, etc
I was already thinking on making my first purchase from a youtuber when I saw X-sheets, sadly it was a joke :( I need thoseeeee, fluorescent sheets which you can draw on using a laser, that would be awesome
wow crazy to see u mention battle royale here. i did a book report in my senior year on the manga of it. there is a lot of really fd up scenes i was questioning if i can actually describe in a school book report lmao.
Hey mate, that's a great video. You may want to do a video on the Dutch ship Batavia, that was shipwrecked of the Western Australian coast on the 4th of June and many of the survivors were killed by a group let by Jeronimus Cornelisz.
When people are hungry, society breaks down and everything is on the table. Keep this in mind for the upcoming months. The veneer of civilization is thinner than people think.
In 1991 I caught a flight from Manang “airport” in Nepal to Pokhara on board a twin otter dehaviland airplane that had a maximum ceiling about 2000 metres lower than the surrounding mountains lol. We hit clear air turbulence off the shoulder of one of the Annapurnas and as the plane screamed like a dive bomber mere metres above the face of a glacier I realised that it had taken me weeks to walk into this place and that if I lived (and there was no epirb or gps back then) there was a pretty good chance that while waiting for a rescue I’d have to eat somebody that didn’t survive the crash. This seriously went through my mind in a few seconds like a bolt of lightning. The pilots managed to heroically pull the plane up at the bottom of the valley with bloody pine trees whizzing past the tips of the wings and we landed safely at Pokhara airfield where I literally dropped to my knees and kissed the ground. But I’ll never forget that moment of amazing and brutal clarity that I had and to be honest I absolutely would have done it. Anyway didn’t fly for many years after that but discovered that alcohol actually really helps…
Thoughty 2... I see you've gathered the modern version of those "healthy 200" here in the comment section who seem to be more interested in the bedsheets than the horror of the story..... They walk among us......... everyday..... 🥺🥺🥺
Not everybody can moan in black for 3 days straight if he heard about an old terrible story like you do. Not everybody is that special. Sorry from the bottom of everybody's heart.
The atrocities committed by Stalin and the other murderous dictators throughout history were not due to Marxism. They actually go completely against what Marx believed and promoted. Too many people have no clue what communism/Marxism actually are. The propaganda from the Cold War about those ideologies still casts a long shadow and prevent people from actually educating themselves on them unfortunately.
Capitalism too. Starvation as a weapon began with the Britain's starving of millions of Irish in the 1840's. Britain also invented the concentration camp and used weapons of mass slaughter (Maxim guns) against spear-wielding African tribesman.
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If you want to find out the true horror that went on read or watch the Gulag Archipelago and how far the depravity of the left goes
I'm happy these stories are being covered even more. A lot of people forget that Hitler wasn't the only evil dictators during the last 100 years, his death count doesn't even compare to most; Stalin, Mao, Pol, Hirohito(he and Hitler are pretty close), and Leopold in Africa.
To be fair, Stalin had access to more potential victims than Hitler and Hirohito did.
@@DampLover what is this bs
I mean, his death count certainly does compare.
But he certainly wasn’t the only murderous dictator in history, no.
@@MJW238 Of course in human death it compares, taking life for ridiculous reasons is just that. But a lot of people, especially here in America thinks it was only Hitler and even some of those people doesn't know anything about the holocaust. Some think that Trump has a higher body count than Mao.
There’s also a tons of royalty all over the world from the Middle Ages to present
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History isn't always pretty but we have to keep it or it will be repeated. Thank you for sharing this. I love the way you explain these things in such a captivating way.
That's a very interesting story. I'd never heard of Nazimo Island before. Stalin never seems to be as reviled as Hitler, and, to be sure, Hitler's atrocities are a horrible stain on human history, and being called a Nazi is rightly seen as a grave insult. But I think Stalin should be mentioned in the same breath as Hitler. He was, arguably the greater evil. Stalin was personally responsible for more murders than Hitler. Perhaps calling someone a Stalinist should be held in the same regard as being called a Nazi.
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When stalins biological son attempted suicide.
The benevolent leader in all his wisdom and glory said. And I’m quoting keep in mind.
“The bastard can’t even shoot straight.”
Really take a moment and think about that. How absolutely detached from all good you would have to be to dare utter those words under such circumstances.
Hitler is always talked about (in America at least), as the supreme of all evils.
But to be honest, he was a child playing with toys as compared to Stalin or Mao xe dong.
(Idk if you’d care or not) but there is a poem Marx wrote in his teens. I believe it’s called iron throne. Or something to that effect.
And it really helps to understand what kind of person Stalin was. To have followed and beloved a person like that.
Jordan Peterson did a reading of it, if audio format is more your thing.
but the thumbnail photo is Phantom Ship island 🙄🤦♂️
Too bad so many socialists today wish to speak kindly of Stalin, they say history of socialism is just misunderstood
The trouble is that the "liberal world order", as Brandon calls our new overlords including himself, wants Stalin to be seen as a great man and revered. They market communism (basically socialism under government direction) as the opposite of fascism but if you compare real fascism (not what the main stream media, public schools and and left wing politicians call fascism) with communism you realize they are much more alike than they are different.
@@masterluxu1 nah bruh Hitler, Stalin and Mao are all on the same level in a large scale. But on a personal scale, them yes, Stalin is worse
Just last summer (August 2021), yet another Soviet mass grave was uncovered , in Odessa, containing the remains of people killed during the great purge. During the kulak purge alone, about 2 million innocents were driven to the wilderness and were left to die. These weren't some "evil capitalist oppressors", most rural craftsmen were labeled as kulaks, no matter how rich or poor. Every farmer that had a stone house while his neighbours had wooden houses, was a kulak. Every farmer that had a 2-floor house while the rest had 1-floor houses, was a kulak. Then there's the Holodomor of course, were at least 3.5 million people died in a man-made famine (primarily Ukrainians) , but the number could be way higher. People were forced to engage in cannibalism to survive.
Let's not forget the ethnic cleansing due to forced relocation/deportations: during his reign Stalin relocated, among others; the Koreans, Poles, the Kola Norwegians, Romanians, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, the Volga Germans, the Ingrian Finns, the Finnish of the Karelian, the Crimean Tatars, the Crimean Greeks, the Caucasus Greeks, the Kalmyks, the Balkars, Crimean Italians, the Karachays, the Meskhetian Turks, the Karapapks, Chechens and Ingushs. Some of these groups had their entire male population deported to Gulags.
Speaking of, the vast majority of the Gulag population were innocent. During the periods of mass arrests when the NKVD would get quotas, people would get taken away, tortured until they signed prewritten confessions, and get sentenced to 10 years of labour in the gulags, under article 58. Millions of people shared this fate. There's many other examples, for example if a teenager would pick an apple from an orchard he would get sent to the gulag, as that was stealing from the state. Even red army soldiers that got captured by the Germans and later returned to Russia, were sent to the gulags, as they were "traitors who let themselves get captured".
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Gee, if only YOU had a RUclips channel.
Thank you for this history lesson. 🙏 I had no idea these sorts of things happened!
So the middle class...sounds familiar.
Thanks For taking the time to write Larry 🍻
I enjoy the uncensored swearing more. “They went absolutely fucking mental.” LMAO I love it
I swear that's the first time I've heard him use the f bomb on this channel.
@@darren_anscombe I have heard him say “fucked” before but I donʼt remember the video.
@@aliyahabrahams Really ? I've watched loads of his videos and can't recall. You're probably right but it was kind of a cheeky shock to hear it. :)
I think everyone is satisfied that this story deserved the f bomb.
His tone makes me thinks he did not actually swears 💀
I think this is the most disturbing story I've heard you tell. But like you say, it's something mankind should not forget.
That's why Americans will never give up their firearms. Even Karl Marx said for the "workers" to never give up your guns and ammo. Smart dude for a homicidal maniac.
@@roybegley2051 he had the right idea but was far too idealistic
@@roybegley2051 The homicidal maniacs were his political successors. Marx himself warned people about the destructive power of autocrats and similar authoritarian powers(being intimately familiar with them, living in an absolute monarchy). Which is why he called for a revolution of the working class/serfs against their slave owners, which in itself was more than justified.
Marx probably would have had a stroke if he knew what people in the future did in his name, especially Stalin. His ideology of unity among workers/the common citizen being corrupted and used by a dictator to assume absolute power and abuse the common person.
@@AsobiMedio Marx ideas for a government sound awesome but peeps gonna peep especially when half your nation are starving and the other half will be sent to the gulag for standing up for their human rights of feeding themselves and their families
@@danieltukua4527 the right idea has led to over 300 million people dead. Communism is a pipedream that will never come to fruition. I would like nothing more than to see the world get along and everyone has all they need to live healthy and productive lives but that'll never happen. Human nature will see to that.
I know this sounds crazy but decades before The Hunger Games, William Golding wrote Lord of the Flies.
That's inspired by a different real-life story that had a happy ending, unlike this one.
This is what totalitarianism brings to the world and we must never forget. When people defend Stalin, Mao, or any of them putting Hitler as the only evil guy to ever exist...these facts flash through my mind. Part of my family died in the Holocaust and I still don't forget the millions of others who suffered and still suffer under other regimes.
Exactly
The belief that something will never repeat itself is the foundation on which those events will repeat themselves
Let's not forget to add Che to this list. In spite of his cult, he was a brutal sinister man.
People that defend these kind of dictators really need like just 30 minutes in a camp like this.
@@flapdrol75 - That's normally where the useful idiots end up. And/Or with the cost of the bullet sent to their families (Tienanmen Square).
Thank you for keeping the memory of such events alive. We can't learn from history if no-one can hear it.
Critical thinking is a vital skill. Thoughty is here to make sure we don't forget the lessons of history.
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Why do you think schools have been dropping history from school curriculums
@@Dancestar1981 communism
well if we think about it maybe the fact that this is taken from a book of fiction it isn't actually that important
It's not just Stalin though, is it? It's all the people who carried out his wicked orders. The fact that nobody assasinated the mongrel speaks volumes
If there is no Stalin, no one would execute those orders. Its not just Stalin but he is the main, the source.
Even if he had been assassinated one of those other wicked people you spoke about would have just taken his place.
The fact was that Western powers were seeking to overthrow the Soviet Union all through the 30s. Stalin's paranoia had some justification.
I cant blame people for not assassinating him. To kill a dictator, you need some serious planning and absolute loyalty, since if anyone talks everyone is finished. When dealing with Stalin, who was even more brutal then Hitler himself, fear outstrips everything else.
Stalin was bound to be there because of the system of communism. If not him, another one like him would have done the same.
Also, mind-blowing animations man. Respect for you and your team.
This was good. Heartbreaking, twisted and unimaginable material, but important. No, we should never forget. We are fortunate generations to not know this kind of horror, but only because of those of us who watch "Leaders" and raise awareness.
I have to comment on YOU! My goodness, you have a new kind of confidence. It's comfortable... and still wildly engaging. Good on ya!
Yeah, there's been no socialist takeover in the U.S. recently at all. Everything is going well, and speech is free.
Is it bad that I get more excited whenever I see a thoughty2 upload that I can tell is going to be super dark than anything else?
@@lilyofthevalley._.6325 pretty great perspective, I enjoyed the read. Lol
Pretty typical
Gotta feel somehow
It's horrible WtF
I wish he did a full length documentary, he has the voice for it
As a Crimean Tatar, this hits too close to home. Thanks for your coverage
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Did Thoughty2 just make a sneezing joke out of processing camps?
That cheeky bastard! Love it!
6:17 "Bless You!"
When faced with incomprehensible death and human suffering, humor is a not-unusual response when it comes to unthinkable tragedy.
@@Aramis419 Agreed. 🌱I listen to this sweet man named Dr. Todd Grande. He has a very dry sense of humor and many of his analysis of the tragedies that he covers he may occasionally utilize humor.
Some criticize him… I find it necessary for him to continue his work🌱
Well, wherever you are be safe and be kind,besides what else have you to do?🪁🏄🏼♀️🪁
Sneezing jokes are highly underrated! Not enough in this modern world, idk what happened to mankind. Sad 😢
@@kevindube7096 KACHOO REPEAT THAT😉
When you mentioned that film in the beginning, I immediately thought of the book Lord of the Flies. A fictional account of what happened when a group of English schoolboys was stranded on an island, it was based on accounts the author had read of people placed in isolated locations with little or no supplies and no other human contact. Readers were appalled by what he wrote BUT, as he told friends while he was writing the book and after it was published, so called 'civilized' behavior disappears in larger group in this situation with the behavior disappearing faster as the size of the group goes up. It looks like desperate people start losing their sense of personal responsibility and morality in larger groups. And it doesn't matter WHY they were in their situation, just that they were there.
He also remarked to many of his friends that it was horrifying that the largest groups were deliberately put into an isolated, contained enviroment and starved by some of the worst dictators/despots the world has ever known.
I immediately thought of Lord of the Flies too.
The human need to survive at all costs turns many people into selfish monsters, as does the need for power over the people they deem "inferior".
It is of the utmost importance that we never forget that these events actually happened. Like the saying goes "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it", and if what is happening in the world these days (such as Putin's invasion and genocide of Ukraine) is any indication, it will definitely happen again if we don't pay attention.
Not to fearmonger, but look at what may be coming. World economic collapse, world food shortages, world fuel shortages and more. Whatever the cause look at the possible outcomes. War, societal collapse, anarchy.
This may or may not happen, but prepare for a long hard time, a long dark night. And a dawn will come, but when?
It was based on the Nazi takeover. The boar is a symbol of Germany.
As a counterpoint 6 Tongan schoolboys stole a boat for an adventure got stranded on a remote and mostly desolate island, and worked together to survive for over a year, including taking care of their friend who broke his leg until it healed.
I to immediately thought of Lord of the flies.
These situations have happened in Shanghai during zero-covid lockdown in last month. Building councils and guards kept the food as bargain tool to trade for whatever they wanted. Old people committed suicides due to starving.
Food and guns have long been used to control people… just look around and see who is doing it now.
Ghastly. Absolutely horrendous.
and xi is just getting started.
Man can yiu guys just overthroe these assholes allready.
There is at leaat 500k old angry chinese women. The CCP stands no chance
Do Chinese have spine?
Sadly, this is only the stories we know about. Just imagine how many more stories like this that were erased from history
That's the one thing that will never cease to keep me up at night, the history that was never recorded or recordings that are lost to history. One can only draw upon hypotheticals but we will never know and not knowing is a horrifying concept unto itself but for some untold stories maybe knowing is an even more horrifying concept.
Have faith, we are meant to heal the past and we will
I never even made it up to 4 minutes with this and decided not to watch it as soon as he started telling the story .
I'm just too squeamish and sometimes don't want to hear about horrible things
Like I said man’s inhumanity to man no nation is exempt
@@gardensofthegodswussy lol
Thanks for this story from the reality, thought it was so horrible I almost couldn't hear it out. It's important that we never forget a happening like this, you have perfectly right. But the human beings are forgetting most, when times are good. And therefore it can happen again.
Happend already and will happen again unfortunately.
@@katekrylov Yes! Witch horrors who goes on in the dictatorship countries in the world, we can imagine out from from the history. Maybe. Evilness can never be understood, but we must belive and accept that it exists. Try to fight it if we can in our own environment, and help as good as we can global. But those poor people behind the fences... If the world trying to help those people, then we have world war 3. Mao Zedong killed 30 mill of his own, in peace time. Stalin was even worse. There are forces in our part of the world to, that are willing to pay with the human life's, as many as it takes, to get power. In my opinion the world hasn't been in greater danger, since world war 2. With the suffering of innocent people. Children, that's the worst to think about, how many children that has suffered and died, still suffering and dies, because in the eyes of the political power, their life's are without value. Happens everywhere. I could cry my eye's out. I have done my best for justice my whole life, just to find out, that there are non. Forgive me if I sound negative, but human beings suffering makes me almost mad. 🌹
@E Van Thank you so much for your answer with all the facts, you really know the history of Russia and communism! 🌹 And you are also pointing to a important thing, it's not always religion who caues the misery's of killing millions of human beings, and also starting war. Hitler and his "staff", were all ateist! Hitler and Stalin was cooperating under world war 2, The first they cooperated with, was the horrors in Poland. But of course, they were both paranoid, so the cooperation failed after a while. But the camp's for destruction of jews and others was built in a hurry there. I manage to read about this things, but if I happen to watch TV , I brake. I saw a picture once, that has burned it's way into my mind. A fat German "doctor", with a big grin in his face, is holding a Jewish baby in his arms. The baby is a skeleton, and about to die. This picture has become the symbol and the truth about real cruelty and evilness.
@UCpeiUNAGonm029M0cTVubPQ Indeed! But the opposite has happened, when a communistic dictator went in to a election of president in USA, manipulating it to get a surten man to power. Many things were happening under this person's regime. Without one single reaching and consequence! While we in Europe, who always has seen USA as the most important alliance, were watching with fear and anxiety. So that it can happen also in our part of the world? Easily!
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This one hit different.
I feel like you made it with deliberate intention of informing the public, rather than just an interesting story as per usual.
Much appreciated.
Just finished your book "Stick a Flag in It" and enjoyed it immensely. Great channel and thank you for your hard work. I actually can't believe this one slipped past me.
This reinforces how crazy it is that I frequently run into Stalin apologists.
A great video as always but I feel like it was glossed over just how minor some of the crimes of these poor people were. There’s stories of some people being sent here for things as minor as not having their identification documents on their person when they went to the shops, or being caught with perceived western media.
Most people didn't even have any reason to be sent here, Stalin and his minions just made things up as they went along.
Getting graphic with those animations…
I really can’t believe there hasn’t been a tv series about this.
i think the same old guy was shot several different ways .
If you're interested in more stories like this, the Gulag Archipelago is worth a read.
Why spoil the surprise?
No one would want to watch it. The world is depressing enough without a series about cannibal island.
i would watch it . the world is not depressing , it's a beautiful place . the news is depressing , always will be . if it does not affect you personally , switch the telly off ; )
And yet, there are those that admire Stalin.
Great video Thoughty. Thanks for shining a bit more light into the dark corners of history.
Stuff like this is why history needs to be studied, understood, and used to prevent things like this from ever happening again......not ignore it or erase it like it never happened
history doesn't need to be studied or understood. without hierarchies this stuff can't happen.
Thank you for having passion in making these videos. i hope you know i am highly fond of the histories telling despite learning how cruel it is.
Arran's channel here is in the Top Ten in all of RUclips. His sensitive and thorough coverage of this indescribably horrific atrocity is the reason he is so highly regarded.
He made jokes about sensitive matter, such as processing camps. Wtf are you on about?
@@Bell_Matt If you can't take a joke, we can do nothing about it.🤷♂
i love his tounge in cheek style of story telling, quite captivating.
I have to confess that no matter how gory, dark, depressing, despicable, and horrifying the subject is, you find a way to make it hella entertaining. Now I'm ready for some extreme rest, which is not to be confused with extreme arrest, for that afterglow.
He still sounds like he's saying "forty two"
I was nominally impressed that whoever did the stone-age, info-graphics style animation, in the interest of historical accuracy, actually went to the trouble to depict the guard’s rifles as some generic representation of what appears to be the quite plausible (although not actually produced until 1939) Mosin-Nagant M38, (later as the M44 carbine) a shortened-barrel version of the 91/30, a bolt-action WWI ERA Russian military rifle chambered in the powerful 7.62x54r round, similar to the American 30.06 hunting rifle. They probably thought no one would notice, so I posted this comment.
Very professional.
Thank you for your service
Awesome. I know very little about the history of weapons, but I appreciate it.
Thank the Lord now I can sleep tonight.🙄
Thanks For the information. Theses poor souls Starved in slow motion... while freezing and giving themselves dysentery.
Sir, for reasons that I will not speak of, I really need to thank you for an immeasurably important point that you made in this excellent presentation.
*We must never forget these events (paraphrase).*
In one individual (Stalin) the embodiment of countless evil existed... even in so-called "democracies."
Using "human nature" as an excuse for *anyone* to commit atrocities against their fellow human beings is shameless, and disgraceful.
Thank you, *Thoughty 2.*
You are amazing! ♡☆♡
I was more convinced by the illuminated "gamer sheets" than I'd like to admit. Still feel like it won't be too long.
@susan ivy The real irony is that they only became gay due to low visibility in the bedroom in the first place. Just one more reason to buy.
That ad was maximum cringe
That fake commercial honestly blew my mind. I was thinking “holy shit that sounds like a terrible idea” then you came in and put my brain back together
What you talking about I was gonna buy ten of this sheets
It must been terrible even for the 200 survivors that simply went from one absolutely hell hole to another hell hole. Stalin was absolutely no joke mass murdering so many people. A good job you did and you did very to remind not to forget this horror.....
0:41 dang I was really convinced you were gonna say "Lord of the Flies". I feel old.
42: "because it bears resemblance to a book.."
Me: "Lord of the flies!"
42: "... hunger games"
Me: *surprised pikachu*
Thoughty has been on youtube for 9 years. He deserves his success.
0:21
Sounds like the book called Lord of the flies
The plot concerns a group of British boys who are stranded on an uninhabited island and their disastrous attempts to govern themselves.
That's what i thought, not the hunger games
Oh lord of the flies you say. never heard of it...
I had read that book back when I was in middle school and it was just messed up
I was just thinking about that too
@@herrschmidt5477 I read when I was at school. See below!
Lord of the Flies is a 1954 novel by the Nobel Prize-winning British author William Golding. The plot concerns a group of British boys who are stranded on an uninhabited island and their disastrous attempts to govern themselves. Themes include the tension between groupthink and individuality, between rational and emotional reactions, and between morality and immorality.
I always think of the 16+ year old kids signing up to the army as a real life Hunger Games. Thinking they're defending their country, being patriotic, unaware of the disposable pawns they really are while grown men play battleships with their lives. That's no reflection on their bravery or sense of duty... But the truth of the wars they are signed up to fight are very rarely honourable. And for what? To be killed or tossed aside homeless and forgotten about.
A lot of soldiers sign up because they like the idea of combat or killing. And you need people willing to kill to protect a country.
@@mommalion7028 the first sentence you said ...absolutely! I said individually they are brave, etc.
The second sentence is what's "wrong" ... Not your comment is wrong...but you're belief in that sentence is what's wrong... let's say America, for example, tell me how the US military is protecting Americans...right now? They have their military stationed in at least 40 other countries right now, and make no mistake that they are there for control. They'll be "told" they are there to help a fighting area keep peaceful...but those people in that country are entitled to air their grievances with neighbouring people and be left to sort it out themselves. Most of these places have not asked their "allies" to come to their defence. They resent the American military being in their country. It's no coincidence as to WHY the "East" is so f*cked off with the "West". If they've not been asked for their help, then they are only there for the benefit of America...mostly OIL! The "army" feels they are protecting a vulnerable area, doing good. But that's not why "those as the top" have sent them there.... 🤔
Right now the Ukrainian military is protecting their country... And it's not a fight they chose. That's defending a country....
How is the US army protecting Americans right now? America's not under attack is it...?
As I said the individuals themselves have trained with honourable intentions...
During their career they will no doubt serve an honourable cause...at least that's how it's made to appear.
But at least the Hunger Games is upfront about it's bloodthirsty need for entertainment. It's a competition, blood sports.
I'm not saying the US military work alone, a lot of other countries' armies bolster up the numbers. It's a joint effort, but the war torn areas are NOT the real battle that's taking place. The real war is being fought over control, resources and profit, back in Washington, London, Paris, Berlin...."negotiations" are really a bartering session between who gets what share of what. If the oil dried up tomorrow, America would be heaving with unemployed military with nothing to do.
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 The U.S. has been under attack by the Soviet Union, now Russia, since 1945.
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 as a U.S. vet, I agree with most what you say, it's an odd position. Knowing we must have a capable military, not always agreeing or understanding with foreign policy, our involvement in other's affairs that haven't requested it. Soldiers are told they can't see the Big Picture, that they must complete their task as well and perfect as possible, or it breaks down, and the Big Picture is always a noble cause. Hard to argue one way or other if you truly don't understand the big picture, I just performed my duties as well as I could, and knew I would never follow an order I knew was immoral, inhumane for no purpose other than cruelty, never do anything I couldn't tell my mother, or keep me from looking my children in the eyes. " I did my best" or " I just did as I was told." doesn't buy my innocence. Still, I love my country, and would become inhumane, cruel, what I had to do to remove an enemy from it, had respect for enemies that felt the same, look me in the eye and spit in distaste. Can't stand cowards. I only disagree about oil. I don't think oil has near as much to do with most of our actions as most do, if any. It's a nice distraction, but we don't really need anyone's oil, not at all.
@@If6turnsouttobe9 I'm so grateful for your honest reply! I've never been in the military so my comment was more from an outside perspective... I appreciate you saying that you're told what to do and trust it's for a greater cause. Of course for you all to work seamlessly and alertly that makes sense, if you were all raising concerns every five minutes you'd be all over the place. But still, I don't think you're told the whole truth. More likely fed something that you're comfortable with agreeing to. The people in the military are honourable and brave, it's the powers that be, that give the orders that I don't trust. I don't know much about the oil situation, so you may well be right in that regard, but we could use oil to represent something a country has, that America wants to control. "The military" is such a faceless organisation and I still feel that they use your patriotism, to make you do things that are deceitful. But as individuals you're also somewhat dispensable. Invisible. Pawns on a chess board, played by a handful of men competing for control. It's those egos at the top I don't trust. I really appreciate your honest insight. I can't imagine how awful it must be to be a parent waving off an adult child, particularly when you know they're heading to fight. I'm glad you're back home with your children now. 😘😘😘
Thank you for sharing. May the dead and those who survived find peace.
"It's like bringing a load of heroin to a drug den and then expecting an orderly queue"
Hey, I resent that! As an ex addict, we are experts at waiting. I formed an orderly queue to get into the guy's van with several other people dozens of times!
*This is intended in a tongue in cheek manner
This! Lol. We are still able to be polite and kind. We don't turn into dogs lol
The amount of waiting ‘1 min’ for about 2 hours would agree with you.
Have a look at the British trading opium for silk back in China. Drug trade now bites everyone in the bum
@@CbRoXiDe the old “I’m pulling up now”
This dude went straight from “it was more horrific than any movie” to “todays sponsor is RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!”
What are you talking about....today's sponsor was X-SHEETS!!!!
You people 😳
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I remember when battle royale was talked about a lot. Still haven't seen it but always thought it inspired a wake of battle royale type stories in different mediums.. Guess it was inspired by real life instead.
Darn bots
I’ve seen it: the Katniss of the film went on to play O-Ren Ishi’s bodyguard Gogo in Kill Bill.
Despite the extremely similar plots Suzanne Collins swears she’s never heard of Battle Royale, let alone seen it (even though the novel Battle Royale was published 9 years earlier.)
It's a great movie, if you're into movies with very gory deaths lol.
you should seriously watch it, one of the best films there is imo
There's a part 2 too although not as good.
"as far as eggs go, joseph stalin was a particularly bad one."
the urge to get this quote into at least one history essay before i graduate at the end of this year
be great opening
I was fooled by the photo you used of ghost ship island and thought there was some story I didn't know about Crater lake! Very informative story though, thanks for telling
Thoughty you are one of the best youtubers out there please never stop uploading amazing content like this❤
While I like the channel, a lot of the stuff he has said was wrong. He also make some terrible propaganda videos
@@austinhernandez2716 like what?? can you explain?
As long as you don't skip the raid shadow legends
@@austinhernandez2716 Propaganda videos? Care to give some examples?
Thumbnail is Phantom Ship island in Crater Lake
The amount of effort put in these videos is outstanding. WE WANT MORE!
I'm gonna be honest, if I'm in a plane crash and we're starving and someone dies, it is definitely not "unthinkable" to cannibalize.
I just love the Bible when it comes to moral decisions. You can justify just about anything if you study it closely enough. Not eating your fellow corpse would result in you deciding to die, which is suicide which is a mortal sin. ( red hot pokers up the arse for eternity ). So tuck in and enjoy your fellow man.
meat is meat , and man must eat . i would do it to survive .
I would rather starve to death or risk eating something off the area. Or eat tree bark. Why do people ignore the vegetation of the island??
@@aphr0d Because eating meat almost never kill you, but strange unfamiliar plants most likely will.
For me it would be. I'd rather die
12:17
"Power they missued"
Abuse = rape, sexual assaut, molestation.
At nazinsky, they forced themselves on woman so it not a wrong use of the word.
Omg I was so concerned for a minute XD I was all like,"LED...bedsheets? Wouldn't that be kind of a fire hazard?"
This is some history I didn't knew.
Thanks for sharing this.
A film about Cannibal island would certainly be interesting
You didn't mention Mao Zedong. His "Great Leap Forward" led to, among other atrocities and general psychotic horribleness, the greatest famine in history and he was ultimately responsible for up to 55 million deaths -- in only FOUR YEARS (1958 - 1962). By contrast, Pol Pot (born wealthy AF, btw; just like Che Guevara) and his Khmer Rouge were responsible for approx 2 million (1975 - 1979).
Yeah it would be cool if he made a video about it
That was the beginning of China go from a backwater nothing nation to the powerhouse it is today. This could have been prevented back in 1949
Strangely, the case of the Donner Party of pioneers heading for California who got stranded in the winter snow shows that those who resorted to cannibalism didn’t fare too well. Those who refused human flesh were more likely to survive. I have no idea why, or how they did it, they had just snow to drink and trees and grass to chew on, but some made it through winter without food.
Love the X~LED Blanket to brighten up our depressing nights! 🕯
I keep thinking...why didn't they attack the guards? It seems like they could have overwhelmed them pretty quickly. Then they'd have had the barges to use as shelter, or to escape. But then again, they'd have needed to band together and risk their individual lives to do that. That's a hard ask, especially when you're already weak from hunger, and sick.
I thought about it too. Couldn't get organized most likely. Also we don't know about their background: plain criminals or political prisoners.
@@katekrylov the river being strong would make it hard
your going to swim towards people with rifles, if the river doesnt get you, or the bullets, your ontop of the raft and have to fight, after starving, freezing, little sleep, exhausted from the swimming trip, against people who are wellfed, warm and cozy, with rifles and most likely melee weapons
even if their not trained, shouldnt be to hard to wack a couple that manage to even get to the raft and try to climb onboard
Because people are individuals whose main goal is not to die. Organizing would mean stick out to be the target. Also people are mentally weaker than you realize, they can be reasoned with, lied to, manipulated when their futures are uncertain. Just tell them more food will be coming tomorrow and they’d wait another day. Promise them personal favors and you’ll have them literally eating out of your own hand. The moment someone organizes something to scale they out themselves and will be killed. Even if they do succeed in overtaking the guards and taking the barges guess what they’re still dead as there are more units lined up all along the river and surrounding villages. It just takes one radio message and they’re all gonna be hunted down like animals simple as that. Can you subdue every one of the hundreds of soldiers in less that 5min? Because that’s literally the amount of time it would take for a guy on watch to alert someone up the chain to the radio room to start broadcasting a sit rep. With all this in consideration how many people you think you can organize? Even if you’d be willing to die for your brethren it’s not guaranteed everyone feels the same way. You’ll be the the first to dive in and the first to get shot. People behind you will see that and a lot will be too scared to move. So you died for nothing in the end but at least you wouldn’t have to suffer in the future. But others are not that brave or calculating they rather take their chances and see what happens. And that is human nature.
@@yoface938 nerd
@@yoface938 good points. I also thin that the basic instinct is the instinct of self-preservation. And we don't know who those people were and where from initially: imagine a bunch of unprepared, civilian city folks in the wilderness!
Literal hell on earth.. whenever I first read about this, I was traveling a dark rabbit hole late at night a few days after reading about Albert Fish, that and this story absolutely shocked me to the core. The depths of human depravity pushed to the absolute limit.. one by choice, the other by threatening life and pressing normal civilians to desperate, horrific measures.. if we're not in hell already, then I simply can't imagine..
why are you invading the home space of a rabbit? you are a sick individual
So what do you suggest I should search when I am bored late at night
damn , i just searched albert fish . a lot of paths for the rabbit hole there .
@@tommymarco albert fish it is than
@@abhinavsharma5935 the Kansas City butcher is a.. disturbing read.. and they posted some of his collection of photos online as well.... he's not too well known, but he's just about as fucked up as Dahmer. I only know about him because my home town is an hour from where it happened
Wow 🤩!!? Your narrative and delivery is amazing! I love the fact that even when telling such a difficult and harrowing tale .. you sprinkle just enough humour into your storytelling to keep us sane and actually enjoy the experience!! .. while at the same time shuddering and wrapping our minds around such events that defy sanity… I look forward to hearing more from you my dear friend.. but hey… you have such a lovely voice.. I could probably just listen to you reading a telephone directory?!! lol 😝- just kidding… the content of your stories is also amazing 🤩!!! Well done!
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I love the transition from a dark theme to excitedly announcing his sponsor lmao
I’m a history guy and I have never heard of this particular incident. Good job at raising awareness of what communism is really like.
I would love for you to do an in-depth video on dictators throughout history🙌
I find I think about this incident at least a couple times a month.
When someone says stupid shit like, "People are inherently good," or worse "such horrible things don't happen in real life" it makes me sick. I want to make certain that people watching this understand how delicate Thoughty2 was with how, and what, he presented. The details you heard, aren't as bad as what you didn't.
Great video Thoughty, very tasteful for such an unsavoury topic.
The inherently good people died first. What you were left with were the increasingly desperate and cynical.
Besides the fear and heartbreak I feel watching this video, it also blows my mind how people can say history is boring. What humanity has done over the course of our time on this planet, is both terrifying and exhilarating. It’s anything but dull, explore your interests and you'll find something that fascinates you from the past. Love this channel, so happy over four million people agree but I still wish more people saw your content because I think they would appreciate the subject as a whole more
Probably because most people were taught the boring stuff like the confederation of the United State instead of the World War horrors.
It's because how it's given at school and how exams are taken. I remember we almost had to memorize all meaningless details to get grades. Motivation drops quickly this way. It's not like watching movies on RUclips this way.
Its the same thing with people saying reading is boring. At school they are forced to read certain books that are boring to them and think all reading is like that. Then they never pick up another book again unless they have to.
@@origami83 I dunno, I'm almost 40 and enjoy reading. But at school studying wasn't quite like reading. Reading for fun, nothing's gonna happen if you forget a detail or two. But at school if you don't pass you fail, and it impacts your life socially as well. You have to do this year after year 8h per day. I think it takes away the motivation for many and creates some sort of anti-reaction. I don't think it's illogical.
@@kimgysen10 I didnt mean studying, i meant mandatory reading of specific literature.
This is how a narrator should be even if a story is boring this guy make it fun somehow
I'd be interested to hear more about Mussolini. You never hear about him, except in History class I guess. Maybe some of the others that no one talks about. Thanks for the vid. Always well done. I love history and wish we could have had your vids back then! 🙏💔
BR is absolute cult classic. Absolute master piece
this is good . this shows just how desperate we can get when resources are scarce .
Mankind is always only 9 meals away from anarchy.
True!
Some researches show that we are 7 meals away from anarchy.
Quite sure in poor countries it is even lower.
andreas pedersen Sri Lanka is current example
@@andreaspedersen3952 this is food for thought . i had no idea it is that low . definitely lower in africa .
Humans are mammals and carnivorous.
This needs to be a movie ...
Really great work. I appreciate the topics you cover.
"The only reason history remembers Hitler as up to his neck in blood is because he's standing on Stalin's shoulders."
Not really true though.
In fact not at all true.
How does that even make any sense?
My Lord I’ve never heard of this. How can something so incredibly horrific go without a worldwide spread? Were the people that knew killed or threatened to be? And how the later humanitarian group found what they did, how long did that take? You probably said so, but it never should have happened, and even though it did, it absolutely never should have been kept as quiet as it did. I feel I should thank you for bringing this up, for educating me about it, yet at the same time I’m so disgusted with humanity, the ones that sent them, that I lose even more faith in us. I’ve always known Stalin was one huge P.O.S., but this takes it to a whole new level. With as much sincerity as I can deliver, I absolutely hope that man is serving eternity burning in the hottest fires of hell. And if he had kids, and they are still alive, they should be kept watch upon. I cannot blame generations of successors for what he did, but let’s not take any chances. Unbelievable.
You must not understand human nature or have been paying attention in the last couple of years of emergency powers (C19, climate change, etc) used to segregate, collapse economies, food supplies, etc
Stuff like this still happens
I was already thinking on making my first purchase from a youtuber when I saw X-sheets, sadly it was a joke :( I need thoseeeee, fluorescent sheets which you can draw on using a laser, that would be awesome
6:20 bless you
wow crazy to see u mention battle royale here. i did a book report in my senior year on the manga of it. there is a lot of really fd up scenes i was questioning if i can actually describe in a school book report lmao.
Fresh new look! You been man-scaping again you handsome stud!? Thanks for the excellent content as always.
So where do I get these sheets?!?! Just kidding. Love your work friend!
I saw a woman speak about an escapee they helped who had her calves sliced off for meat whilst on the island!
Where
I have heard of that also. I believe it was a RUclips video done by Geographics channel
@@DarkFire1536 Yeh - it was a Simon Whistler channel on YT
Hey mate, that's a great video. You may want to do a video on the Dutch ship Batavia, that was shipwrecked of the Western Australian coast on the 4th of June and many of the survivors were killed by a group let by Jeronimus Cornelisz.
"Telltale signs of cannibalism"
Big ol smile on the corpse's face. 😂
Hearing this story for the first time shook me to my core.
I was never the same.
No idea where i heard it.
When people are hungry, society breaks down and everything is on the table. Keep this in mind for the upcoming months. The veneer of civilization is thinner than people think.
please don't enlighten us what will happen during the next months.
You cover stories I've heard before a lot but for some reason you just tell them better 🤣🤷♂️ you and Mr Ballen are my faves 👌😘
you sus bro .
@@tommymarco hella sus. You want some? 😏
@@braddo7270 it is hella sus , i would definitely like some ; )
@@tommymarco omg youtube won't let me flirt 😫
@@braddo7270 try harder ! what they deleting ?
Stalin was a murderous fiend. Many thanks, Arran, for bringing this little-known and horrific story to light.
4:44 "Beyond simply... Murdering them to Death." LOL
certainly seems like the current tyrant may be following suit of this type of immoral behavoir
Hey! I want those light up sheets
For real!! I want some
Imagine an army consisting of those 200 healthy monsters.
In 1991 I caught a flight from Manang “airport” in Nepal to Pokhara on board a twin otter dehaviland airplane that had a maximum ceiling about 2000 metres lower than the surrounding mountains lol. We hit clear air turbulence off the shoulder of one of the Annapurnas and as the plane screamed like a dive bomber mere metres above the face of a glacier I realised that it had taken me weeks to walk into this place and that if I lived (and there was no epirb or gps back then) there was a pretty good chance that while waiting for a rescue I’d have to eat somebody that didn’t survive the crash. This seriously went through my mind in a few seconds like a bolt of lightning. The pilots managed to heroically pull the plane up at the bottom of the valley with bloody pine trees whizzing past the tips of the wings and we landed safely at Pokhara airfield where I literally dropped to my knees and kissed the ground. But I’ll never forget that moment of amazing and brutal clarity that I had and to be honest I absolutely would have done it. Anyway didn’t fly for many years after that but discovered that alcohol actually really helps…
Thank you for teaching. Your writing is much better and the information is between "very interesting" and "reviting."
I give you: The future of human society at this rate.
these were my only thoughts ; our future .
I "love" this story..it's horrible but it's actually so interesting...it was a living hell so the people on that island
Thoughty 2... I see you've gathered the modern version of those "healthy 200" here in the comment section who seem to be more interested in the bedsheets than the horror of the story.....
They walk among us......... everyday.....
🥺🥺🥺
Not everybody can moan in black for 3 days straight if he heard about an old terrible story like you do. Not everybody is that special. Sorry from the bottom of everybody's heart.
@@herrschmidt5477 Would you like some ketchup with that?
Seen the LED sheets I asked my self if the sponsors get worse or better. Somehow sad that such a good channel can’t find better sponsors.
This is absolutely so cruel and disgusting how can someone do this to people
... Marxisim never stops reminding us how far we can individually fall...
The atrocities committed by Stalin and the other murderous dictators throughout history were not due to Marxism. They actually go completely against what Marx believed and promoted. Too many people have no clue what communism/Marxism actually are. The propaganda from the Cold War about those ideologies still casts a long shadow and prevent people from actually educating themselves on them unfortunately.
Capitalism too. Starvation as a weapon began with the Britain's starving of millions of Irish in the 1840's. Britain also invented the concentration camp and used weapons of mass slaughter (Maxim guns) against spear-wielding African tribesman.
@@dirremoire The decision not to provide aid for the Irish was made by the British government, not the free market.
@@A_Takacs A ardently capitalist British government run by capitalists.
@@dirremoire I think you're confusing economic policy with ideology