His range is probably run by LIBTARDS!!!!😄😁😆 They probably only let you have 3 rounds in the mag too!!!😁😆🤣 I had a Democrat ask me why I had a AK-47 & AR-15? I told him to F@#$ OFF, get OUT of PA and go back to NJ with that bullshit!!! After I calmed down, I actually went over to him and his Wife, and asked them if they wanted to try the AK & AR. He said NO, but his wife really wanted to try them out. She TOTALLY LOVED it!!!😃 Now they have a few AR's & AK's!!!😁😆🤣
The best thing about the Dissent is how flat that it folds with the SB brace just make sure you put it so it folds to the opposite side of the charging handle and get a light you can mount on the top rail
I have CMMG Dissent 5.56 in 16", barrel. And i put on the 3x prism scope with a micro 1x side red dot. It's good for the medium range (200-400 yard) and CQB
Nice list. I had a DDM4 PDW (before my boating accident) and it was great, but I also want something without a buffer tube. You can also get the Dissent with a 10" barrel. That and the Spear LT are on my short list.
based on the price of all those, I'd say a regular PSA lower and upper would be the best 300blk build for non-backpack use, and you'd only be spending $600
That ambi bolt catch on the spear is 🔥. That, plus the better grip than the rattler and ideal 9" 1:5 barrel for 300blk sold me. Just go with the sig suppressor and dont mess with the QD mount.
I'd really love it if Ruger could make a 10mm LC charger. 10 inches of barrel, grip fed, no stock or brace but it could be an option down the line, a really good cheek pistol option. I'm not sure which training ammo would be cheaper though. (See Demonstrated Concepts if you're not familiar with cheek pistol concept) Ruger did make a .45 LC carbine, so a charger could be on the way. I might try that. I prefer 10mm but I'll be flexible for the right price and the most compact form factor possible that's still capable out to 100 meters.
What is up with the Maxim Defense guns? Their website specifically states your warranty is voided if you put a suppressor on it..... I mean, that is the only reason these PDW's exist in 300blk. To not run it suppressed does not make much sense. I have never shot one of their models, but it was placed in my "pass-on-it" column when I saw that disclaimer. I figure they must have known issues, or else they would not say it voids your warranty? I would be curious to hear from anyone that has one, and has ran it a couple thousand rounds suppressed, to see what the issue is.
check out the B&T APC 300, def the best out there. I own a honey badger and various B&T items. B&T is 2nd to none. There is a QD on the right side of the firearm. The Gen 2 300 APC has all that you want. With a Telescoping brace/stock its the most compact on your list
Thanks I’ve heard that they have really good quality. I went to my LGS and checked it out. Looked nice but also felt a bit heavy. I must have missed the QD on the side. Thanks for the feedback
I wasn’t aware of the GQ Armory Paladin and it looks badass! Only thing is it has a buffer tube and ships with a brace according to their website. I wonder if that will change soon…
I think the spear is still going through some growing pains if you believe the majority of what you read currently but it’d definitely be my pick if money weren’t a factor. That said PSA has never been bad to me so I’m shocked to see them get some hate. I know they may also be feeling some growing pains with the JAKL being fairly new. I’m curious if you could throw a 5-6” barrel on that PSA JAKL 🤔
Fostech tomcat fighter 300 blackout. Seven and a half inch barrel. And I believe up to date is the lightest t pistol made As well as strongest.. But the price tag is too grand
Have you ever tried using a cheek weld instead of a brace or holding it out? The guy on the Demonstrative Concepts channel makes a convincing argument for doing it over having a brace.
you've probably decided, but I would get the spear out of your list. Surprised you didnt include the Sugar Weasel. Love mine. Working pretty well with 300 sps supressor. 1:5 twist would weigh heavy in my decision.
Sounds like the range you go to is worthless - do they require blood alcohol tests too?
His range is probably run by LIBTARDS!!!!😄😁😆 They probably only let you have 3 rounds in the mag too!!!😁😆🤣 I had a Democrat ask me why I had a AK-47 & AR-15? I told him to F@#$ OFF, get OUT of PA and go back to NJ with that bullshit!!! After I calmed down, I actually went over to him and his Wife, and asked them if they wanted to try the AK & AR. He said NO, but his wife really wanted to try them out. She TOTALLY LOVED it!!!😃 Now they have a few AR's & AK's!!!😁😆🤣
Yeah, that's absurd. They're voluntary AFT agents?
I never support boomer Fud ranges.
Braces are back... just got me rattler lt pistol at 4.8lbs and can't be happier... nice backpack gun
The best thing about the Dissent is how flat that it folds with the SB brace just make sure you put it so it folds to the opposite side of the charging handle and get a light you can mount on the top rail
MCX or JAKL for me, BUT I all ways have "different" trains of thought.
Good to have you back.
Thanks for the feedback! I really like the MCX. Yeah I’ve been off RUclips for a while since they were wiping out accounts. Feels good to be back.
I have CMMG Dissent 5.56 in 16", barrel. And i put on the 3x prism scope with a micro 1x side red dot. It's good for the medium range (200-400 yard) and CQB
Nice list. I had a DDM4 PDW (before my boating accident) and it was great, but I also want something without a buffer tube. You can also get the Dissent with a 10" barrel. That and the Spear LT are on my short list.
Foxtrot Mike as of November/2023 is now offering 9” and 13.9” bufferless uppers that can be installed on any mil spec lower
based on the price of all those, I'd say a regular PSA lower and upper would be the best 300blk build for non-backpack use, and you'd only be spending $600
The Dissent looks really sweet to me!! I don't understand the lack of a dust cover either though..
That ambi bolt catch on the spear is 🔥. That, plus the better grip than the rattler and ideal 9" 1:5 barrel for 300blk sold me. Just go with the sig suppressor and dont mess with the QD mount.
Isn’t the grip on the rattler removable like any other AR lower?
Another channel claims Sig told them to soak the barrel in hot water to help getting their flash hider off.
I'd really love it if Ruger could make a 10mm LC charger. 10 inches of barrel, grip fed, no stock or brace but it could be an option down the line, a really good cheek pistol option. I'm not sure which training ammo would be cheaper though. (See Demonstrated Concepts if you're not familiar with cheek pistol concept)
Ruger did make a .45 LC carbine, so a charger could be on the way. I might try that. I prefer 10mm but I'll be flexible for the right price and the most compact form factor possible that's still capable out to 100 meters.
So, the cmmg barrel lenght doesnt get the same performance of a 9 inche but the sig rattler at 5 inche is great gotcha....😅😅😅
Ur range asking 4 form 1s? Hell nah I would not go there ever!
I have a Jakl,Rattler, and maximum defense pdx. I like them all but really love the Maxum Defense. Make sure you check them out.
What is up with the Maxim Defense guns? Their website specifically states your warranty is voided if you put a suppressor on it..... I mean, that is the only reason these PDW's exist in 300blk. To not run it suppressed does not make much sense.
I have never shot one of their models, but it was placed in my "pass-on-it" column when I saw that disclaimer. I figure they must have known issues, or else they would not say it voids your warranty?
I would be curious to hear from anyone that has one, and has ran it a couple thousand rounds suppressed, to see what the issue is.
I would go with the Spear. I like that more than the others.
Thanks, I’m leaning toward that option. Nice to hear from you bro
@@werunguns same here, been a while.
The dissent has a inch longer barrel than the rattler but its an inch shorter overall.... thats interesting....
Cus it’s the better gun! N the best in its class
Of the ones you shown I'd go with the sig. But I always come back to the Q tho
Best bet is the Sig Rattler LT, best of both Sig 300blk models.
Or the PSA Jackel for the price. 👍
I have a milisport 300blackout with a 8"1/2 barrel
1, Rattler, 2, DD PDW, 3, Spear. For me🤙🏾
Thanks for the feedback. The Rattler does have its unique advantages
check out the B&T APC 300, def the best out there. I own a honey badger and various B&T items. B&T is 2nd to none. There is a QD on the right side of the firearm. The Gen 2 300 APC has all that you want. With a Telescoping brace/stock its the most compact on your list
Thanks I’ve heard that they have really good quality. I went to my LGS and checked it out. Looked nice but also felt a bit heavy. I must have missed the QD on the side. Thanks for the feedback
8.4 lbs! Ridiculous B&T.
1. Rattler, 2. GQ Armory Paladin, 3. Dissent
I wasn’t aware of the GQ Armory Paladin and it looks badass! Only thing is it has a buffer tube and ships with a brace according to their website. I wonder if that will change soon…
@@werunguns Your right, I'd go Sig rattler then. I thought B&T would come out with a Sign Rattler variant.
@@werunguns Robinson Arms XCR 300 blackout.
I just got a Stag Arms with a 7in barrel and a hyperfire trigger....
Thank you for the info i am thinking about doing the same
They can only charge you with a felony if they catch you alive
I think the spear is still going through some growing pains if you believe the majority of what you read currently but it’d definitely be my pick if money weren’t a factor.
That said PSA has never been bad to me so I’m shocked to see them get some hate. I know they may also be feeling some growing pains with the JAKL being fairly new. I’m curious if you could throw a 5-6” barrel on that PSA JAKL 🤔
My has a sling and red and green dot sights. U can build your own AR pistol
Fostech tomcat fighter 300 blackout. Seven and a half inch barrel. And I believe up to date is the lightest t pistol made As well as strongest.. But the price tag is too grand
Have you ever tried using a cheek weld instead of a brace or holding it out? The guy on the Demonstrative Concepts channel makes a convincing argument for doing it over having a brace.
you've probably decided, but I would get the spear out of your list. Surprised you didnt include the Sugar Weasel. Love mine. Working pretty well with 300 sps supressor. 1:5 twist would weigh heavy in my decision.
Spear if your life is on the line, JakL if you want a range toy.
I totally agree!
SIG spear or rattler! 👍🏼
Thanks that Spear LT is what I’m leaning towards now
@@werunguns yeah me too I have the 556 rifle on the way. Can't wait!
@@tacticaltray4907That’s awesome! After you shoot it, let me know what you think. What barrel length you get?
@@werunguns I got the 16 inch
@@werunguns I got the spear lt rifle and took it to the range, it shoots very well. Not much recoil and it's reliable.
Sig blackout will fit in. Bag. , .
Maxim defense pdx
B&t is top tier ! Apc 300 is superior. Who to say it’s heavy needs to hit the weights !!!
B&T master race they will outlast their owners and are built like tank/sewing machines.
Seems that spear lt is suffering from terrible barrel shift
Yeah that's keeping me from pulling the trigger on one (no pun intended)
It sounds like you have made up your mind. I think the biggest issue is the proprietary components!
Is you a police officer for Detroit police department? 😂 I think I seen you b4
Dissent is piston driven.
All of the ones shown are piston driven.
Q honey badger or sugar weasel
If you're range asks to view a for one, you need to move to another state.
Q
Your range can not legally ask for you form 1. Tell them you are going to sue if they ask you
Did the Jakl dirty by not talking about it much🥲 Btw the issue with some sub-sonic’s not allowing it to cycle was fixed.
The Jakl is an excellent value and I love PSA. Glad they fixed that issue.
@@werunguns yea it seems PSA is super on top of listening to the issues customers are finding and fixing them asap