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  • @InkAndPoet
    @InkAndPoet 11 месяцев назад +1626

    What sucks overall is that Rob and Fab were blamed, not Frank Farien.

    • @fulanideedee8709
      @fulanideedee8709 11 месяцев назад +78

      I remember this and my mom chose to keep the CD we purchased. Its just within the last few months that I've even heard the full story. So you can imagine the very one-sided story that we received in the 90s. Even listening to this I heard some new revelations. Frank is lucky to be alive. He [icked the right two men to play because the wrong person woulda came after him for playing with their lives in this way.

    • @Krystal_Clearr
      @Krystal_Clearr 11 месяцев назад +19

      YUP!!!

    • @0therun1t21
      @0therun1t21 10 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@fulanideedee8709For real!

    • @KillerCammy85
      @KillerCammy85 10 месяцев назад

      I was thinking the same thing. It was everywhere how basically they were frauds when really is was Frank who decieved everyone.

    • @samuelgalea7679
      @samuelgalea7679 10 месяцев назад +12

      They did sign the contract though ? They were told what’s going to happen and they signed the dotted line ? You don’t get an advance before signing a contract

  • @erindiazmclaughlin
    @erindiazmclaughlin 10 месяцев назад +871

    I am truly disgusted by how these two men were treated. They were chosen strictly for their looks. Not even asked what they had to offer. When in reality, they were both very talented men. Unfortunately, they were used, abused, chewed up, and spit out. Left for dead, so to speak. It's truly heartbreaking when you think about it. The media and news outlets spoke about them terribly. Imagine if this had happened to them this day and age. There would be absolutely no escape. RIP Rob. As to Fabrice, I hope that you are well. Living a happy and healthy life. You deserve to live peacefully.

    • @celina8590
      @celina8590 10 месяцев назад +14

      They knew exactly what they were doing ,so stop feel sorry for them

    • @frobbsy27
      @frobbsy27 9 месяцев назад +52

      ​@celina8590 They were backed into a corner with money held over their heads from the jump and had NDA's put into their contracts. They were exploited and rode the train too far, that they weren't able to get off of until it crashed.

    • @jamangel
      @jamangel 9 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@celina8590oh boo

    • @durbansaladyinaccra2173
      @durbansaladyinaccra2173 8 месяцев назад +24

      Frank Fareon deserved to be sued and should have paid them a lot in damages for what he did and the hardships it caused these men.

    • @mattiemathis9549
      @mattiemathis9549 8 месяцев назад +8

      Well said. I remember this. It ruined them. And wasn’t new kids on the block involved in something like this? Damn. New rabbit hole.

  • @Mugruncher
    @Mugruncher 9 месяцев назад +242

    Watching celebrity RUclips documentaries has made me realise, the media was so so so much meaner in the 90s
    I can’t imagine being targeted by that energy

    • @Honeymoon2024
      @Honeymoon2024 9 месяцев назад +21

      The ‘90’s were strong & heavy

    • @marcy23147
      @marcy23147 9 месяцев назад

      The 90s either built u or broke u…..and the media is still cutthroat, they just do a better job of manipulation

    • @ALargeShoeOfHenny
      @ALargeShoeOfHenny 8 месяцев назад +10

      Yep, it was absolutely relentless -
      I don’t know how some people lived through what they lived through to be honest - and for next to nothing much of the time. RIP Rob 🙏🏼

    • @ms.lalady
      @ms.lalady 8 месяцев назад +1

      It hasn’t changed much. The media sometimes uses a more subtle takedown these days. Making the public think an artist is crazy smdh. I wouldn’t be surprised if it later came out that he didn’t just overdose.

    • @rnbsteenstar
      @rnbsteenstar 7 месяцев назад +14

      It can still be just as mean today.

  • @WordsForNow
    @WordsForNow 11 месяцев назад +963

    Is anyone else shocked by how callous the news report about Rob’s suicide attempt was?

    • @denac5222
      @denac5222 11 месяцев назад +226

      It was really uncomfortable to listen to, they almost seemed excited to be covering it. So gross.

    • @laurabunn2993
      @laurabunn2993 11 месяцев назад +128

      Yeah it was gross and off putting. I feel awful for Rob.

    • @hollieporter9958
      @hollieporter9958 11 месяцев назад +99

      I'm just glad someone else noticed,,,,, I was like umm excuse me whhhaaatttt ....you selfish ass hat 😮😢 idk if people kno this or not but kindness is literally FREE to give and receive ♡♡

    • @cellochel1582
      @cellochel1582 10 месяцев назад +60

      I know. It was completely disrespectful.

    • @DwayneIsK1NG
      @DwayneIsK1NG 10 месяцев назад +57

      ABSOLUTELY disrespectful and ZERO TACT 😒🤦🏿

  • @LiquidShivaz
    @LiquidShivaz 10 месяцев назад +548

    I’ve known the guys personally, met them on ibiza in the summer of 1988. Rob was a sensitive and fun guy and the saddest part is that they could actually sing, just not in those voices

    • @mrkipling2201
      @mrkipling2201 10 месяцев назад +45

      Agreed. There's clips of them singing, after the Grammy fiasco and the end of Milli Vanilli, and they sounded very good. Especially Fabrice Morvan.

    • @jenneacubero1036
      @jenneacubero1036 9 месяцев назад +2

      Is it true that Rib left behind a source? Ikeeohearing contrasting sources.

    • @LiquidShivaz
      @LiquidShivaz 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@jenneacubero1036 what do you mean, at letter after his unaliving?

    • @jenneacubero1036
      @jenneacubero1036 9 месяцев назад +8

      @@LiquidShivaz Sorry, I meant if he had left behind a son or a daughter. I saw some sources say that he was a father. But I'm not sure.

    • @LiquidShivaz
      @LiquidShivaz 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@jenneacubero1036 I'm not sure, but of course it could. Hadn't seen him since the 90ties

  • @TheDawnofVanlife
    @TheDawnofVanlife 10 месяцев назад +334

    Considering hiw young Rob and Fab were, they were essentially screwed over. They were poor kids who wanted to make it in the industry offered a golden ticket and it’s ashamed it’s taken years for the blame to even partially shift to the real villian, Frank Farian.

    • @MJBABYPHAT
      @MJBABYPHAT 10 месяцев назад +11

      Exactly.

    • @violetcarson5532
      @violetcarson5532 8 месяцев назад +6

      Exactly

    • @brandondavies9922
      @brandondavies9922 8 месяцев назад +5

      I 💯 agree....it was awful to see....I loved them

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 5 месяцев назад +3

      How their manager got no heat for his role in this is pathetic

    • @joeysimek7707
      @joeysimek7707 4 месяца назад +1

      @@thepubknight6144 Because he wasn't their manager. It was more or less the american label who screwed the two over in the end. Farian wasn't evil, he didn't plan to damage the two as the video shows, quite contrary. The problem was that his plan went ahead of him, when they hit of in America, but by that time he had praticaly no control over the project. After the grammy, the label even wanted a world tour and that was when Farian intervened.

  • @karinetimetraveler3049
    @karinetimetraveler3049 11 месяцев назад +563

    No matter they sung or not they still brought a lot of joy to people.

    • @Lady_Angela1
      @Lady_Angela1 10 месяцев назад +25

      I know right. Present day we’re used to fakeness with autotune and what not.

    • @Likelyfairy
      @Likelyfairy 10 месяцев назад +20

      And with the way contracts are legal bonding it really upsets me how little compassion people had for them when they were literally immigrants who barley knew the language

    • @peachesj4748
      @peachesj4748 10 месяцев назад +10

      They were part of my childhood, which I miss so much.

    • @captainpawpawchannel
      @captainpawpawchannel 9 месяцев назад +3

      It's not the only band that sang playback, so i'm not sure why it has been a scandal

    • @moonseed209
      @moonseed209 7 месяцев назад +1

      I totally agree!!! It’s so sad they came up way before their time. Actually most entertainers do exactly what they were publicly bashed for and is now excepted

  • @prettyroses4742
    @prettyroses4742 9 месяцев назад +91

    This was sad af to watch, he literally ruined and destroyed their lives. That man literally died for no reason…

  • @ejakaegypt
    @ejakaegypt 10 месяцев назад +151

    It’s crazy that they got so much backlash for lip syncing but you got people who became famous (especially on TikTok) for lip syncing
    Mili was way ahead of their time!!

    • @vaskylark
      @vaskylark 8 месяцев назад +22

      The fact that we tolerate lip synching at all now is what is baffling, not that people were outraged then. It's fakery and fakery sucks!

    • @kiara198923
      @kiara198923 8 месяцев назад +7

      Thank you!

    • @kris78787
      @kris78787 6 месяцев назад

      Just goes to show you how fake society has become now

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 5 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@kiara198923 plus both can actually sing especially Rob

    • @miragexl007
      @miragexl007 2 месяца назад +1

      Lol...BUT thus was back when musuc/actual direct talent was more valued?. Much stuff is just BS today... still entertaining just different.. And we know we're being duped a lot.

  • @clarimm6675
    @clarimm6675 10 месяцев назад +289

    We need a deep dive episode on Frank Farian himself, he is a generally shady person. You probably all know the song "daddy cool" by Boney M. It was also produced by Frank and guess what, this was also a farce since the male singer never actually sang himself but IT WAS FRANK. The fact that this man even has a career is beyond me.

    • @caseyadams1861
      @caseyadams1861 10 месяцев назад +8

      Did he sing the male vocals on all of their songs? They had many disco hits.

    • @clarimm6675
      @clarimm6675 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@caseyadams1861 as far as I know yes

    • @cherishoneal9108
      @cherishoneal9108 10 месяцев назад +10

      How he had that man in the group seemed like a minstrel show.

    • @shizz_93
      @shizz_93 9 месяцев назад +7

      Wow I love that song & had no idea Frank sung it

    • @violetcarson5532
      @violetcarson5532 8 месяцев назад

      Damn 🙄

  • @redwoodrebelgirl3010
    @redwoodrebelgirl3010 9 месяцев назад +96

    I was one who has laughed at these "fakers" & "frauds", until today.
    NO MORE!!!
    _I had no idea what the _*_TRUE REALITY_*_ of the situation is!_
    I repent of every giggle, sniggle, snark, & snide & sarcastic remark.
    _I'm so sorry boys._
    I had no idea.
    Best wishes to Fab. ❤
    Rob, rest in peace, perfection, freedom, & Joy, in Paradise. 💗
    I am so very sorry for the hideous injustices & evil that were perpetrated upon you.💔
    Thank you for making this documentary, so that I, & everyone else, have the opportunity to know & understand the TRUTH.
    In my opinion.

    • @coxwagan
      @coxwagan 7 месяцев назад +2

      I was too because they were ahead of their time with marketing and promoting and creating artists and they set the blueprint where everybody started doing it and now in the year 2023 in the standard practice. And even though there was a scandal back then I did not burn that album because that album is FIRE the BOMB a true masterpiece every song. In my personal opinion altitude is way worse than what Milli vanilli did with lip sign

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 5 месяцев назад +3

      I remember their Gum commercial and noticed how much comedic timing Rob had he could of been a very successful actor as well

    • @miragexl007
      @miragexl007 2 месяца назад

      Lol. Nope still laugh a little. Of course nowadays they played off as they were total victims, poor them, stupid them... ya, right. They knew what they were doing, used yes But they wanted the fame no matter what and they had it for a while.

    • @Kiara-yq9dc
      @Kiara-yq9dc 21 день назад

      Took you decades to not be indoctrinated by the media 😂that’s sad

    • @missmew3499
      @missmew3499 14 дней назад

      ​@@miragexl007did you even watch this? This documentary is quite factual. These boys didn't know what they were getting into, and by the time they realized it, it was too late and they were too far in.
      R.I.P Rob Pilatus ❤️

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 11 месяцев назад +233

    Milli Vanilli were exposed so publicly during a live concert, which ended their promising career. At least Fab still managed to have a bit of a career following the scandal, but Rob died young, at only 33 years old.

    • @InkAndPoet
      @InkAndPoet 11 месяцев назад +10

      And has a decent singing voice

    • @secretlyamazing
      @secretlyamazing 11 месяцев назад +7

      Promising career lol I feel like you never actually heard them sing 😂

    • @RubeeRoja
      @RubeeRoja 11 месяцев назад +20

      Thanks for recapping what the video told us

    • @beautyonabarnbudget
      @beautyonabarnbudget 11 месяцев назад +6

      While yes they were exposed lip syncing live. Thier career actually continued after that for quite some time

    • @AshChiCupcak
      @AshChiCupcak 11 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@beautyonabarnbudgetI don't even see why that mattered. Maria Carrey was caught lip singing at her concert and she carried on just fine. In fact, a lot of singers have been caught doing the same thing, maybe we just expect it more now than back then.

  • @JaquelineGoodspeed
    @JaquelineGoodspeed 10 месяцев назад +202

    Dont play with the devil. Whatever he gives you, he will also use to destroy you. Sad ending for these two guys and horrible Rob died.

    • @NicoleQuinn
      @NicoleQuinn 10 месяцев назад +25

      Everybody who took fame ends up deeply unhappy, or they have coded deaths or they commit suicide.

    • @NicoleQuinn
      @NicoleQuinn 10 месяцев назад +1

      It's the tanning injections and the fake dreads.....they tried to make robert look mixed race....hes probably latino or even a European white man. Something is off and unatural looking about the tan and fake dreads.

    • @JaquelineGoodspeed
      @JaquelineGoodspeed 10 месяцев назад +9

      @NicoleQuinn
      Yes they do. I think that's why they start out as friends, then fight each other. I guess it's true, more money doesn't make one happy. We just think it does.

    • @sarahrean7174
      @sarahrean7174 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@JaquelineGoodspeedor maybe he does but only for the people who are not famous being rich is something who can made your life easier....

    • @sarahrean7174
      @sarahrean7174 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​​@@NicoleQuinnbecause they had mental pb from the begining.... if you choose the fame you can quit it ... and they never want to for them they are force to quit not the same.

  • @aliceblacc7986
    @aliceblacc7986 10 месяцев назад +258

    This is so sad. They deserved so much better. I can’t believe how poorly we can treat other people. Seeing the old late night clips always shocks me. I understand making jokes but I feel like they used to go way too far. These men didn’t deserve this. How cruel.

    • @ElseNoOone
      @ElseNoOone 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@catnapper7509
      NO. 8:37 till 9:38 👂🏻

    • @rnbsteenstar
      @rnbsteenstar 7 месяцев назад +1

      Anything can go too far, even for political correctness.

  • @shanewoods1980
    @shanewoods1980 10 месяцев назад +144

    Say what you will about me, I was born in 1980 and even at 42 I still pull up the videos of “blame it on the rain” and “girl you know it’s true” every now and then because those songs were huge when I was growing up. And they’ll always be milli vanilli to me not “imposters”

    • @minianoiz6492
      @minianoiz6492 10 месяцев назад +25

      Same here, I'm beyond thankful for the 90's.

    • @cammyt9030
      @cammyt9030 10 месяцев назад +18

      I'm the same age and I do the exact same. I still love them to this day and they were exploited. R.i.p Rob

    • @violetcarson5532
      @violetcarson5532 8 месяцев назад +3

      I agree and same here. I still love those songs til today and listen to them. I was just hitting my early twenties when that came out.

    • @kellicat6352
      @kellicat6352 8 месяцев назад +5

      Blame it on the Rain. I love it! They were treated terrible.

    • @Mz.LadyyC
      @Mz.LadyyC 7 месяцев назад +1

      Same🙌🏻 love them❤

  • @alecderek9687
    @alecderek9687 10 месяцев назад +94

    Frank Farian is the one that needs to carry the brunt of responsibility.

    • @edgraphycs
      @edgraphycs 6 месяцев назад +3

      The Bill comes to everybody, sooner or later in this life

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@edgraphycs
      Yup what Mordo told Dr Strange " You think there's no price to pay Strange? The bill comes due, always"

  • @AnAdorableWombat1
    @AnAdorableWombat1 9 месяцев назад +48

    These men shouldn’t have been ridiculed like they were! People have used playback for centuries.

  • @skycptn8819
    @skycptn8819 9 месяцев назад +147

    Imagine being 20, living in a poor/racially divided area, and someone offers you a lot of money to rise up and touch your dreams. Most would do the same thing as those guys. I don't blame them.

  • @micaelasparrow650
    @micaelasparrow650 10 месяцев назад +129

    It’s not necessarily difficult to sing in a language you don’t speak. You’re memorizing sounds to a beat, you don’t actually have to understand what you’re saying to be able to sing it.

    • @AlyssHarte
      @AlyssHarte 10 месяцев назад +6

      yeah and the alphabet - and therefore the sounds - are virtually the same so all they have to do is read a phonetic guide, compared to asian languages that have their own alphabet and sounds which is why they struggle with Ls and the like

    • @staceyanne1368
      @staceyanne1368 10 месяцев назад +16

      Yes, Ozzy can barely form a sentence and has thick accent but he sings very well.

    • @sourgreendolly7685
      @sourgreendolly7685 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@staceyanne1368That's not even just the accent lol

    • @charliefual
      @charliefual 10 месяцев назад +17

      Selena Quintanilla being a prime example of this. She was born in the US and english was her first language, her spanish wasn’t perfect but she learned to sing in spanish and have so much success.

    • @aquariusthompson8212
      @aquariusthompson8212 10 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah like his Justin Bieber forgot the lyrics to his Spanish song when he had to sing it live lol

  • @katiemcelwee6271
    @katiemcelwee6271 10 месяцев назад +67

    Singing in full English without speaking it is absolutely possible. Selena Quintanilla sang all her songs in Spanish and was a popular tejano star, yet she didn’t speak a word of Spanish. So it’s not at all questionable for Fab to be singing in perfect English without being able to speak it.

    • @violetcarson5532
      @violetcarson5532 8 месяцев назад +9

      Exactly so did Wham George Michael, Olivia Newton John that's just a few.

    • @rnbsteenstar
      @rnbsteenstar 7 месяцев назад +9

      She spoke some Spanish, but had to learn phonetically.

    • @cressapellom4205
      @cressapellom4205 4 месяца назад +1

      ⁠@@violetcarson5532George Michael
      Could speak English tho. He was literally from England. He just had a English accent. And not even a thick one.

  • @deniseb.4656
    @deniseb.4656 10 месяцев назад +60

    Boney M was also produced by Frank Farian. Remember "Rasputin", "Daddy Cool" and "Ma Baker"? He was the male voice in the song. Yes, it was Frank Farian singing the male vocal parts. The guy in Boney M was only dancing and pretending to sing. At least the female vocals in Boney M were real though. But Frank Farian also did them dirty and ripped them off financially.

    • @wilmawanker367
      @wilmawanker367 10 месяцев назад +7

      Yes! Came to say the same. I hate Frank but do enjoy the songs.

    • @counthella7986
      @counthella7986 10 месяцев назад +12

      And he also died the same way and same setting as Rob - that’s weird…

    • @ShaniTrahan-fn4hn
      @ShaniTrahan-fn4hn 5 месяцев назад

      He sure did that con artist snake bastard! That’s what frank farian is!!

  • @Amita8505
    @Amita8505 10 месяцев назад +90

    Just because u can't speak a language doesn't mean u can't sing in another language

    • @TsukiNoInu93
      @TsukiNoInu93 10 месяцев назад +3

      Its gonna take a lot of time to learn those lyrics when you cant even understand what youre saying

    • @FukaiKokoro
      @FukaiKokoro 10 месяцев назад +19

      You don't need to understand it. Just have to learn how to say it right

    • @Amita8505
      @Amita8505 10 месяцев назад +9

      @TsukiNoInu93 I know how to sing mad Spanish songs but I don't speak Spanish. It's about mimicking and u eventually learn as u go

    • @MyStylesRReality
      @MyStylesRReality 8 месяцев назад

      Yes I sing in other languages as well its just singing even if we don't understand we can always connect to the lyrics and do it

    • @TsukiNoInu93
      @TsukiNoInu93 8 месяцев назад

      @@Amita8505 before I could speak English I couldn’t really sing a long cause I would mimick the sounds but didn’t know if what I said was correct that’s why I said it is gonna be hard

  • @mariegraves8202
    @mariegraves8202 8 месяцев назад +103

    Yeah, Rob and Fab wasn't the problem. I find it to be odd that Frank Farien wasn't blamed for being a liar, disceiver and a manipulator but it all landed on Rob and Fab.

    • @violetcarson5532
      @violetcarson5532 8 месяцев назад +5

      Yeah that's very disturbing

    • @joeysimek7707
      @joeysimek7707 4 месяца назад

      He was questioned, but since he wasn't no one in America, that only happened in Germany. He was the only one that helped Rob financialy in his depression era, he wasn't the one who forced them on a world tour unlike the label. He wasn't as toxic as the fans. The fault is to be found in many places here.

    • @jeanmichellelaurent
      @jeanmichellelaurent 4 месяца назад +1

      Frank is an evil man, there is blood on his hands for Robs suicide

    • @joeysimek7707
      @joeysimek7707 4 месяца назад

      @@jeanmichellelaurent This man bailed him out of jail and financed his drug rehab.

    • @jeanmichellelaurent
      @jeanmichellelaurent 4 месяца назад +2

      @@joeysimek7707 that doesn't take away what he did, the abusive boyfriend isn't all of a sudden a shining example because he took her to Disneyland that one time

  • @Amita8505
    @Amita8505 10 месяцев назад +87

    Frank is a scumbag smh. Ruined their lives and comes back as the "hero" to revive them. Man gthoh😒😑

  • @94frankiec
    @94frankiec 10 месяцев назад +28

    It’s not that surprising that one of the members could get away with singing English but couldn’t speak English that well. Look at Kpop bands like BTS. Only one member can speak English fluently but they’ve had multiple songs in fully English where every member sings in English

  • @TheJeannag
    @TheJeannag 10 месяцев назад +189

    You guys really lived up to your name, this was a proper DEEP dive! Thankyou for the hard work! Rob and Fab and all the other artists and crew were screwed over.

  • @OlgaWilhelmine
    @OlgaWilhelmine 10 месяцев назад +47

    Everyone else lip-syncs live or has autotune intervene to help with the singing, but these guys got the shaft. This kind of thing goes on today, very common.

    • @kelseystramel5349
      @kelseystramel5349 10 месяцев назад +10

      Including "ghost writers"

    • @JulianMichaelHoldcroft
      @JulianMichaelHoldcroft 10 месяцев назад +6

      Exactly! Look at Jennifer Lopez, she can barely sing a note! 💯🤣

    • @Dcjc25
      @Dcjc25 9 месяцев назад +3

      They not only lip synced, they didn’t sing AT ALL! They were just a face didn’t write, didn’t record nothing! At least most artists that lip sync their own songs

  • @beautyonabarnbudget
    @beautyonabarnbudget 11 месяцев назад +42

    Lots of singers sing in a different languages. They learn the songs phonetically. Also, many English singers (from England) sing without an accent.

  • @jperry8572
    @jperry8572 10 месяцев назад +48

    I still love Milli Vanilli! Their songs were great and so was their concerts. It is so sad & wrong specifically since now so many singers since then & currently actually cannot sing.

  • @francescadulash3511
    @francescadulash3511 10 месяцев назад +61

    Thanks for making me feel so old! I had a thing for Rob as a teenager! You can't begin to imagine how bad the fallout was. Black Box were the same but Martha Wash didn't know they'd used her voice! She went nuts!

    • @amethystdawn9476
      @amethystdawn9476 10 месяцев назад +7

      Yes, there were a few songs from that era that hired models for the videos and no one knew who the singers were.

  • @jessicaburrows2942
    @jessicaburrows2942 5 месяцев назад +11

    That Frank guy has blood in his hands. An absolute disgrace what he did to them. They could’ve recorded those songs with their own voices and still have been superstars.

  • @ejakaegypt
    @ejakaegypt 10 месяцев назад +23

    And both of them were extremely handsome. They didn’t deserve to go down as bad as they did 😢

  • @annepearce3089
    @annepearce3089 10 месяцев назад +13

    Fab morvan sings blame it on the rain at a live concert in the neatherlands. It is the best version i have ever heard.WE LOVE YOU FAB!!!

  • @KillerCammy85
    @KillerCammy85 10 месяцев назад +66

    Omg this is so heartbreaking. I was a kid when the scandal blew up, so I knew of it vaguely, and they got drug so bad. I can't believe the label screwed them over like that. Its awful how the entertainment industry treats their artists, just chew em up and spit em out.

  • @babyalivesandmore1824
    @babyalivesandmore1824 9 месяцев назад +44

    Just shows you how the industry works!!! Pretty sure so many artist have done this… I feel bad for them… smh 🤦🏾‍♀️

  • @stacykeller3812
    @stacykeller3812 10 месяцев назад +57

    I will always love Milli Vanilli! RIP, Rob! 😢

  • @fireflyfox93
    @fireflyfox93 10 месяцев назад +41

    I feel like if they tried this today but we're open about it, it probably wouldn't have been a big deal. They probably would have been successful.

  • @beverlyledbetter4906
    @beverlyledbetter4906 10 месяцев назад +19

    Pilatus signed his death warrant when he trashed Jagger and McCartney: you don't diss rock royalty! By the way, ABBA couldn't sing a word of English and had to learn to sing phonetically --as did many of the foreign actors and actresses in golden age Hollywood --but no one ever mentions them!😒

    • @MarkGelderland
      @MarkGelderland 4 месяца назад +1

      ABBA spoke English perfectly; most interviews at the time were done in English.

  • @annegallagher4005
    @annegallagher4005 10 месяцев назад +46

    Yes this was very tragic, was a young girl in Switzerland and followed their career, danced in discos to their song and was gutted when it came out, we had a hunch that something was not right but lipsincing was the mode to go in those times on a stage! Frank Farian by the way produced another group called Boney M. they had a frontman dancing and singing and it was clear for everyone that he lipsinced aswell and he never sang his part, we were not shocked... those were strange times indeed and made me not liking Farian at all, he had some nastiness in his eyes, he just used people to grow his fortune! Dr Luke type of guy!

  • @ahoggan230
    @ahoggan230 8 месяцев назад +14

    Back when journalism was respectable, a retraction was a big deal. My dad is a retired reporter. He said if he ever tried to write a story that couldn't be verified, he'd lose his job. There are no such things as respectable journalists anymore

  • @DelilahKeller-kx5rq
    @DelilahKeller-kx5rq 11 месяцев назад +59

    It's sad that they got made fun of 😒 I still love them no matter what happen 🖤 rest in peace rob 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

  • @RosieYogi
    @RosieYogi 6 месяцев назад +10

    Frank Farrian has blood on his hands. I just watched a new documentary on Paramount and it opened my eyes to what these men went through. I’ve heard Fab sing Blame It On The Rain live and he has a beautiful voice.

  • @berja3895
    @berja3895 10 месяцев назад +56

    I'd heard of Milli Vanilli, hell had their song on cassette tape recorded from the radio-- but to hear the entire rounded story was refreshing, What they had done to them in front of the world was devastating. All for 1 man to make as much money as possible.

    • @rebeccaspratling2865
      @rebeccaspratling2865 10 месяцев назад +1

      Right?

    • @loriparker76
      @loriparker76 8 месяцев назад

      Omg I was just telling my kids yesterday how I used to make home mistakes from the radio probably back when milli vanilli was big too. I was obsessed with being a mtvj back then 😂

    • @ethovas663
      @ethovas663 7 месяцев назад

      Ah yes. I remember using cassettes to record the radio lol

  • @RebeccaGomezToronto
    @RebeccaGomezToronto 11 месяцев назад +82

    this was the first deep dive that actually had me choking back tears

    • @0therun1t21
      @0therun1t21 10 месяцев назад +11

      You're not alone, and I wasn't even a fan but was in my early 20s when they got famous.

    • @isthisfake.
      @isthisfake. 7 месяцев назад +4

      same. they were literally just kids that had a dream. evil industry

  • @NicoleLilliansemakula-zm2gf
    @NicoleLilliansemakula-zm2gf 9 месяцев назад +16

    This just broke my heart, i didn't know the depth of the story.
    Indeed he died the day they were exposed

  • @Krystal_Clearr
    @Krystal_Clearr 11 месяцев назад +138

    I dont trust Frank and i believe he led Rob to that death.

    • @CCSophia528
      @CCSophia528 10 месяцев назад +25

      Absolutely. On the eve of thier promotional tour? Frank didn’t want to pay… or produce the album …. Or anything else….

    • @Lady_Angela1
      @Lady_Angela1 10 месяцев назад

      Well duh

    • @Krystal_Clearr
      @Krystal_Clearr 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Lady_Angela1 zoinks

    • @N.O.V.E
      @N.O.V.E 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@CCSophia528I mean he was getting severely bullied and harassed and his family pretty much every where he went. He just gotten tired I wish he would’ve kept fighting but I understand why he made that fatal decision . Such a beautiful man and I’m sure his spirit too but sadly he made a permanent choice to a temporary situation

    • @CCSophia528
      @CCSophia528 8 месяцев назад

      @@N.O.V.E I wasn’t speaking about Rob. I was speaking on the producer.

  • @JMac7395
    @JMac7395 10 месяцев назад +16

    I'm honestly shocked they went back to Frank Farien after he blatantly threw them under the bus to save himself smdh

    • @SuZ4242
      @SuZ4242 10 месяцев назад

      IKR? All Frank ever saw was $$... scuzzbucket promoter.

  • @dont-call-me-et-al
    @dont-call-me-et-al 11 месяцев назад +42

    I LIVE for your deep dives! Now i'm sad because I can't wait any longer to watch this one... and then I won't have any new ones to look forward to lmao

  • @Zwoelfeline
    @Zwoelfeline 10 месяцев назад +13

    Frank Farian was the voice of Boney M.'s Frontdacer, he never sang a line, so it was known in Germany that he was the voice of many of his artists. Today nobody would be surprised that people who act on stage aren' t the voices of the presenters on stage. Not a big thing. So we germans weren't very surprised about Milli Vanilli.

  • @reba738
    @reba738 10 месяцев назад +30

    I don't believe he killed himself the night before the release of their album, if fame was all he wanted.
    If he was able to parody himself for money, I'm sure he was extremely excited about finally being able to get to preform.
    I wouldn't be surprised if their manager hadn't even hit record in the studio, otherwise those albums would have surely been released, especially has he'd benefit of Rob's money too and they say artists are worth more dead than alive and they did/do still have a fanbase.
    I don't know, something doesn't add up. It's all extremely sad.

    • @adrienne7642
      @adrienne7642 10 месяцев назад +9

      I was actually thinking the same thing. And the fact that Fabian found him is just super sketch

    • @reba738
      @reba738 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@adrienne7642 yeah, I thought that to but was a bit too afraid to say it, as you know how the internet can be.
      Nothing ads up, at all.
      I've never believed the version of events ever since I heard about it years back.
      It's so sad whatever happened, he definitely didn't deserve all that hate & mocking.

    • @kiara198923
      @kiara198923 8 месяцев назад

      Exactly

  • @ZariyaJ
    @ZariyaJ 8 месяцев назад +8

    It’s just so crazy cause if they would’ve came out today they would’ve not got all that backlash. Cause half of these singers/rappers out here dont even write their own songs. Just sad

  • @BreyenJaimes
    @BreyenJaimes 10 месяцев назад +14

    6:04 not in defense of the scam of it all, but as an example of how this could happen, Selena sung in full Spanish most of her career but had issues speaking in Spanish.

  • @QuittingYoutube24
    @QuittingYoutube24 10 месяцев назад +9

    I was very young when the Milli Vanilli scandal happened so I don't remember the group at all but still I find the whole thing sad.

  • @619G_
    @619G_ 10 месяцев назад +9

    My dad was a fan of them in the 90s. I rem when I was little my dad would play the song a lot, Girl I’m gonna miss you. Now it’s my fav too!

  • @stealthis
    @stealthis 10 месяцев назад +30

    I'm surprised this album never leaked in any format over the years.

    • @counthella7986
      @counthella7986 10 месяцев назад +9

      Indeed. I‘m actually not sure if this album exists. Everything is possible under the power of Farian.

  • @kavi212
    @kavi212 10 месяцев назад +29

    I always thought their treatment was so unfair. So the people on the cover don’t actually sing the song. If you like the song you like song, if you enjoy the performance, so what? They didn’t deserve what happened to them. There are worse things in the world, this shouldn’t have been that big of deal

  • @gengarrules777
    @gengarrules777 10 месяцев назад +34

    i loved Milli Vannilli because of how gorgeous they are. and they didn't fake that!

  • @beautyonabarnbudget
    @beautyonabarnbudget 11 месяцев назад +17

    The late 70's?!?! They were from the late 80's-early 90's

    • @evitagiron
      @evitagiron Месяц назад

      yeah who the hell made this video..

    • @sarahmckinneyrobinson
      @sarahmckinneyrobinson 6 дней назад

      Surely a mistake (that they could’ve corrected)… they had already mentioned Rob in 1984, feeling lost with his creativity until he finally won a break dancing contest, lol.

  • @awestavalentina4454
    @awestavalentina4454 10 месяцев назад +18

    This story is heart breaking

  • @yolliet1724
    @yolliet1724 11 месяцев назад +30

    This is not the first time this happened. There were other artists/groups that did the same thing. This was common place in Europe. There were rumours around a German band Modern Talking as well.

    • @Youokhun
      @Youokhun 10 месяцев назад +5

      Oo interesting!! Please share more details if you have any 🙏

  • @missmeliss4352
    @missmeliss4352 10 месяцев назад +36

    This was such a heartbreaking story. You did a fantastic job on it! I'd love to see an episode of Farians other group boney M Bobby's life was tragic towards the end

  • @exitcheese
    @exitcheese 10 месяцев назад +11

    completely tragic and heartbreaking

  • @barblm21
    @barblm21 8 месяцев назад +9

    I did not care that it was not them who were singing, they were fabulous performers at that time and I remain a fan to this day. RIP Milli Vanilli

  • @miguelmusicajw
    @miguelmusicajw 10 месяцев назад +10

    the "Back and In Attack" album is still a mystery. Fab claims he had nothing to do with this album and he never came back to work with Frank again after the Milli Vanilli scandal. He even claimed in a interview that Farian actually wanted to do it all over again with this album. I believe him when he says that he wasn't involved, however we'll never know what this album is about or who sang on it nor if Rob did sing on it or not. But supposedly he was involved in it somehow, Fab wasn't.

  • @JustSheilz
    @JustSheilz 10 месяцев назад +12

    I loved that album and kept it when radio stations had burn parties.

    • @Oilerpa
      @Oilerpa 10 месяцев назад +1

      same

  • @Sebastianx007
    @Sebastianx007 10 месяцев назад +8

    Some people need to realise we all make mistakes and all of us go through hardships and misgivings in life! But it's no reason to beat yourself up or off yourself it means now try doing things differently and making it out of the mess you're in ... redemption and vindication are worth more than that!

    • @SuZ4242
      @SuZ4242 10 месяцев назад +3

      Easy to say, but he walked that walk. To be duped and turned into a laughingstock of the world at that young age... no real support or guidance... add in substance abuse... and we sit back and judge.
      We, the public at the time who encouraged the destruction of this man with our dollars, must take some responsibility. Unaliving is the easy way out when love coulda, shoulda, woulda, sadly.

  • @ycumbess
    @ycumbess 10 месяцев назад +8

    This is so sad! Thanks for breaking this down. I was young then. They just went into obscurity. Had no idea.

  • @hnic_eli
    @hnic_eli 10 месяцев назад +11

    I just want to say I’ve watched so many videos and have studied these guys since I was a kid and this is by far the BEST video I’ve seen!

  • @secretlyamazing
    @secretlyamazing 11 месяцев назад +19

    Boy they lucked out that this didn't happen when the internet existed lol

    • @hannahs5783
      @hannahs5783 11 месяцев назад +18

      Idk, everything that happened to them seemed pretty bad lol, one of them literally died. If they had the internet they might even have had the opportunity to turn their situation around, back then they were bound to the will of media and the industry. Just look at Rebecca Black

    • @secretlyamazing
      @secretlyamazing 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@hannahs5783 that's why I'm saying they're lucky lol. I think the internet would have absolutely destroyed them. But rob sounds like a selfish narcissist anyway. Especially with how weak minded he was, the internet would have had him on the ledge much sooner. Dude was a monster to everyone around him. Did you miss all the assaults he did?

    • @TheInsaneBEAST1
      @TheInsaneBEAST1 11 месяцев назад +2

      They lipsynced to other peoples voices, not their own.

    • @secretlyamazing
      @secretlyamazing 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheInsaneBEAST1 yup, I'm aware.

  • @chelseascafede9672
    @chelseascafede9672 10 месяцев назад +10

    This kinda stuff still goes on in Hollywood. They say Britney spears lip sync her whole career

    • @rnbsteenstar
      @rnbsteenstar 7 месяцев назад

      But, she didn't.

    • @chelseascafede9672
      @chelseascafede9672 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@rnbsteenstar and, how do I know

    • @rnbsteenstar
      @rnbsteenstar 7 месяцев назад

      @@chelseascafede9672 there are many videos of her singing live as a kid and earlier in her career. There are also candid videos of her singing acapella.

    • @chelseascafede9672
      @chelseascafede9672 7 месяцев назад +1

      how do you know she's really singing though???
      That's s what I meant..

  • @LidiaVlogsherweek
    @LidiaVlogsherweek 10 месяцев назад +7

    It’s where so many groups lip syncing in the late 80s. I am so sad this happened to them.

  • @eatacid1504
    @eatacid1504 6 месяцев назад +4

    I had to go ask my mother who these guys were to fill me in bc I’ve heard my parents mention them before. LIKE GOD DAMN IMAGINE THE HEART DROP THEY FELT AFTER THEY KNEW IT SKIPPED.

  • @shelbicarroll3710
    @shelbicarroll3710 10 месяцев назад +6

    Your videos are actually the best & this is one of my favorite channels!!! You guys always deliver the stories we haven't heard yet and give the best details to back it all up ❤ better than school

  • @Nomoredrama2000
    @Nomoredrama2000 10 месяцев назад +8

    What a terribly sad story. :(

  • @PJAndersson733
    @PJAndersson733 10 месяцев назад +8

    Man, I loved Milli Vanilli. I hated to find out what was really going on. Good looking guys. Would’ve loved to hear their real voices

  • @__.lucky.__
    @__.lucky.__ 6 месяцев назад +4

    People can be so cruel without knowing what’s actually happening. Heartbreaking. My mom had their cd, I loved it too!

  • @rnbsteenstar
    @rnbsteenstar 7 месяцев назад +4

    One thing that would be just would be to release what was meant to be their comeback album. This being a tribute to Rob and his memory.

  • @KeeTv2023
    @KeeTv2023 11 месяцев назад +17

    This is a Great Deep Dive!!! I never knew A LOT of this stuff and I lived thru it in real time. Crazy times. 7/6/23

  • @CCSophia528
    @CCSophia528 10 месяцев назад +8

    I was at that concert in CT. It wasn’t 80,000 people. Lake Compounce didn’t hold 80,000 people… But it was still a lot of people….

  • @joannacianfarani0412
    @joannacianfarani0412 11 месяцев назад +20

    I love them, Just got their greatest hits. Sorry thick accents don't mean that can't sing English. MANY singers sing perfect English who are of other languages. Ozzy Osbourne has a thick accent, sings perfect English without it.
    They got a raw deal, shitty deal and Frank Farrien got money

  • @johnlombardo7816
    @johnlombardo7816 7 месяцев назад +6

    This was one of the most controversial stories of my day, this had everyone up in arms about how they could get away with this etc.. I'll never forget this, but to hear this side of the story makes it very sad. Selling out for 4k, smh.. They should have just came clean from the jump, but the industry grabs a hold and doesn't let go easily..

  • @mariefryzelkova7927
    @mariefryzelkova7927 10 месяцев назад +8

    Throwing my two cents in: You can totally sing in language you don´t speak with. I speak fluently only my own language and english but as a life long choir singer I sang songs in many languages like spanish, french, german and latin. You just learn the lyrics by ear.

  • @gemmaphillips7733
    @gemmaphillips7733 9 месяцев назад +5

    They where truly taken advantage off...
    Such a very sad story...💜🌹🎶

  • @Alysia.in.Wonderland
    @Alysia.in.Wonderland 7 месяцев назад +12

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Rob Pilatus didn’t actually commit suicide but was taken out. The death clause on Rob Pilatus was probably cashed in. At the time of his death he was a liability & worth more dead than alive 😢 He was a handsome man. RIP Rob 🕊️

    • @lovelydoll1477
      @lovelydoll1477 6 месяцев назад +4

      I agree , plus German police said he had head injuries so that’s pretty suspicious to me

    • @mowthpeece1
      @mowthpeece1 4 месяца назад

      For some people, reality is just too painful, and they need some hidden conspiracy. Rob had attempted suicide several times, and was even 5150'd for three days to evaluate him. It's completely plausible that he accidentally overdosed. Looking for more is not necessary. It's bad enough. Go with the evidence you have.

  • @leelee185
    @leelee185 8 месяцев назад +3

    Great content, also for those who don't know there is currently in Milli Vanilli movie in the works.

  • @Banana-lk7tf
    @Banana-lk7tf 6 месяцев назад +4

    I never cared that they were lip syncing then, and I don't care about it now. These guys were my childhood, and I'll always be a forever fan! I'm so sorry for what happened to them. Rest in paradise, Rob.❤
    And, please do a deep dive on Frank Farian.

  • @shirandawilliams
    @shirandawilliams 10 месяцев назад +7

    I love how the other dude was vibing while the song was skipping 😂😂😂

  • @user-em9yg5kf7m
    @user-em9yg5kf7m 10 месяцев назад +2

    Well done!!! Nice Report. Step by step.

  • @SaigonBaby100
    @SaigonBaby100 День назад +1

    u did a fantastic job making this video..
    I find it so very sad and tragic that Rob ended up taking his own life.. I wish he would've put it behind him and maybe simply lived a more simple life out of the spotlight

  • @tinapeanuts6877
    @tinapeanuts6877 10 месяцев назад +11

    So sad what they went through ❤

  • @KiantraHall-sl2ye
    @KiantraHall-sl2ye 6 месяцев назад +4

    I spoke to Rob on the phone in 92 I was nineteen what I remember is that he was a gentleman I wished I could've stayed in touch if I knew he was going through what he was I would've been a better friend RIP KING 👑 ❤👑❤👑❤👑❤

  • @lyndaehrich5809
    @lyndaehrich5809 10 месяцев назад +4

    This was the same system that was used on the plantations. If you were a freed slave, you had to buy your provisions at the plantation store. Except you didn't get paid yet. So you bought on credit. When you got paid, it was never enough to cover the nut. So you started the month in the hole. And you never got out of the hole.

  • @Baba_Wawa
    @Baba_Wawa 11 месяцев назад +8

    Blame it on the rain is still one of my all time favorite songs. Idk what it says about me, but it’s true.

    • @vitaminC7657
      @vitaminC7657 11 месяцев назад +3

      Because it’s a legendary bop😌

    • @wilmawanker367
      @wilmawanker367 10 месяцев назад +1

      It says you are awesome!

  • @SKOLAH
    @SKOLAH 10 месяцев назад +4

    Man, I remember when they appeared! We loved them. They were massive. It's all so sad.

  • @minamoon01
    @minamoon01 5 месяцев назад +2

    It’s heart breaking he was so young .. and honestly the media is brutal .. so what if it wasn’t his voice it isn’t the first and won’t be the last time this happened in show business ..
    I’m sad for him really this was harsh no one deserves to be attacked and shamed this bad .. they’re in the entertainment business, their voices or not they did entertain ..

  • @bricbrac28
    @bricbrac28 8 месяцев назад +3

    that stuck record was the 1st viral video

  • @WorldHiThere
    @WorldHiThere 11 месяцев назад +17

    Is this a re-upload? I could have sworn I saw this video a week ago, or am I just psychic?

    • @angelsunlight
      @angelsunlight 11 месяцев назад +5

      Literally was just thinking about this lol

    • @bbkirbee
      @bbkirbee 10 месяцев назад

      Same!! Are we that so ravening it?

    • @NatlovesJesus1
      @NatlovesJesus1 10 месяцев назад

      Yup

  • @sydneysquad8492
    @sydneysquad8492 10 месяцев назад +1

    great job ,earned a new sub ❤

  • @mustardwhore
    @mustardwhore 10 месяцев назад +3

    sponsors think were not going to just fast forward their unwanted ADs, mate after three times i don’t want to hear about skillshare no more 🥰

  • @paindilla1834
    @paindilla1834 10 месяцев назад +33

    Correction.....Real independent artists dont lip sync, mainstream industry puppets do

    • @alexanderbayarea
      @alexanderbayarea 10 месяцев назад +4

      Not all

    • @ElaAusDemTal
      @ElaAusDemTal 10 месяцев назад +5

      Did you even watch the video?!
      And yes, there are a lot of artists who dubbed their own songs, that was common in the 80s, out of technical reasons (or so they claimed).

    • @maggiemae7539
      @maggiemae7539 10 месяцев назад +4

      They all lip sync! And they all are puppets

    • @oholm09
      @oholm09 9 месяцев назад +2

      It's all corrupt industry

    • @jamangel
      @jamangel 9 месяцев назад

      Lol