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- German President Frank-Walter Steinmeieron Tuesday said a proposed trip to Kyiv had been rejected by the Ukrainian leadership.
Steinmeier had been planning to make a joint visit to Ukraine with Polish President Andrzej Duda and their Estonian, Lithuanian and Latvian counterparts "a strong signal of joint European solidarity with Ukraine."
But "that apparently wasn't wanted in Kyiv" Steinmeier said while visiting the Polish capital Warsaw.
Ukraine has previously been highly critical of the German president over his connections with Russia and the leading role he played as former foreign minister in improving relations with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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In the case of Steinmeier it is not so much misunderstanding the situation as an elephant remembering a particular hunter that has tried to shoot it several times in the past. Steinmeier was Schroeder's chief of staff when the now infamous Nord Stream was first devised and constructed. Steinmeier was Merkel's foreign minister when Germany casually dismissed Ukraine and Georgia's European aspirations. Germany might have forgotten. But Ukraine remembers.
Completely agree. Ukraine put principles first and are holding world leaders to account.
@@AidaChoudhury Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
your memory is too good.
Well done Zelensky. Ukraine doesn't need another German gas grabber undermining Ukraine's freedom with another Rippentop-Molotov double dealings. Poland understands perfectly!
@@wasweiich3459 You actually believe Russia would have left Ukraine alone? Maybe Germany shouldn’t have put up such a stink about Ukraine being let into NATO. Guess what wouldn’t be happening if Ukraine was a NATO member? Maybe Germany shouldn’t have set itself up to get blackmailed in the energy sector by a dictatorial country that once owned half of Europe.
Poland warned Germany about Putin for years and heard "you are oversensitive". Yeah, right...It's called "own experience" my german friends. Stop looking down at us and start listening. We know Russia better than you ever will.
all about money, Germany was high on Russian gas and junkies don't think straight
@🇺🇦 #StandWithUkraine I am not a fan of current Polish government. I did not vote for them and they will not rule forever, believe me. But one thing is for sure. Whoever is in power in Poland we never had a trust in Russia and we were right.
@🇺🇦 #StandWithUkraine It's not my real name of course. I hate Orban even more because he chose to be on the bad side of history as Putin's puppet.
@UC5R_MLZbuzcqQgQb50lIO7A And you are lucky. Poland is what it is but we never let our allies down. It's often exactly the opposite but it's a different story. It does not matter right now. Each of us should do their job for Ukraine.
@🇺🇦 #StandWithUkraine I am not conservative and Poland itself is not as conservative as Western Europe tend to think. Polish government sucks but Poles are devided and split. They do not represent a whole country.
What does he expect if his country is still paying for 40% of Russia's war effort on Ukraine every day?
Many EU countries are dependent on Russian gas, Germany has only a 25% share of the total volume. It does not pay for other countries' gas imports.
@@-cirad- Yes but at the same time Germany is the last top deliver any military eqipmet to Ukraine. Even small Slovakia or Poland does 100 times more to support Ukraine. Germany just wants to get back to business with Russia
@@kinwhakklkin7590 Nope, fact is that Germany is the 4. largest supporter of Ukraine including the US.
@@kinwhakklkin7590 yeap...its showing its true colors...business of fascism
Germany is paying to heat themselves and to feed themselves and to get light for themselves but at the same time Germany has chosen to give the Ukraine weapons to defend themselves Germany very well could have said I'll stay out of it.
Germany is participating in the sanctions as well they could have stayed out of that to a continued rolling in the money.
What do Ukraine did with that snuff was very very foolish.
Then of course all of these heads of States falling over themselves in order to kiss the Garment of the Ukrainian president is equally foolish
As far as I know, when the Russia invaded Ukraine and Ukrainian foreign affairs minister wanted to discuss the situation with German politicians, he heard that there is no point talking to him because Ukraine and it's goverment was not going to exist in the next two days. He even cried after hearing that. I'm not surprised with this reaction.
Ukrainian government does not exist since 2014. Russians already told back then that is brings more to talk with USA state dep directly than to bother with pigs and their clowns.
No matter what information and slanderous war the West waged against Russia, but Russia has all the resources to resist for 100 years and need nothing! Is Europe ready to wait 100 years and fight for the collapse of Russia?
Read some of his decisions as the foreign minister not just him trying to get cozy with Russia but also the decisions he took towards Georgia and Ukraine becoming more European this guy is only becoming an ally to Ukraine because he's being forced to all of his prior stances have been anti Ukraine
They made the U.K. fly around their air space while supplying Ukraine .. pretty fooked up really.
Thank you for sharing this.
Scholz why are you holding up the weapons? German companies want to provide the weapons, the Ukrainians want to pay, but Scholz you keep saying no.
The Ukrainians want the Germans to give them the money to pay for the weapons...
Why to create more widows and Orphans in Ukraine?
The US and UK also do not send fighter jets or tanks. The one step up are armored vehicles which aren't tanks. So germany follows current consensus of what constitutes a step to far.
Stand with Ukraine: that is rubbish and you hopefully know it.
@@nebelland8355 - The UkoNazis should be wiped out. Stand with non Ukonazis of Ukraine!
"earlier you work for your reputation, then your reputation works for you"
Kiev should also put out a message saying US's Tucker Carlson, Giulliani, Flynn and the Trump family are not welcome in Ukraine for the same reasons: cozying up to Russia in recent years.
Wow respect 😅
Zelensky have NO reputation, he is a CIA puppet!
@@kevhynaleks2631 bot, idi nahuy
Just after you
Zelenskyy showed, once again, his courage in refusing to give credit to a Putin stooge.
The comedian cannot determine Germany's foreign policy
its a political faux-pas. they want tanks from germany but ban its president from visiting? no matter what you think of Steinmeier, zelensky should recognise that it wasn't just steinmeier, that he snubbed. it was the president of germany and in extension the german people, getting support from germany will be a lot harder from now on. it was a populist move not a politically smart one. ukraine may have gotten that fast track eu membership deal but if germany feels petty enough they can easily stonewall that(they wont of course but they could, so why risk it).
Then he also shouldn’t be asking them for weapons anymore.
Steinmeier admitted he was wrong and whoever advised Zelensky to make this move should be in jail. Now there is no lend-lease from Germany.
@@achugunov Germany shouldn’t send anything to Ukraine until Zelensky publicly apologizes for the disrespect. By asking the president not to come they are saying they are fine without Germany, so be it.
I admire the decision. Why hide the genuine thoughts and feelings towards the one who hurt you so deeply.
Annie tang@ German people are all with Russia even the government officials just they don't want to say it
Because it's not about your personal feelings
Steinmeier did not hurt anybody. Russia did. Hearing you ppl sounds like Steinmeier in person went to war.
Outrageous! Thats it!
Enough is enough!
Not a single weapon for Ukraine anymore. Obviously Ukraine can fight Russia alone.
Good for Nato good for EU.
@@thekaiser4333 Nice try, russian bot
I am german and I feel so much ashamed about our sleeping politicians.
So am i ( about my country ) greetings from you’re neighbor
You shouldn't be.....you are a shining light in an otherwise senseless world
good on you. much appreciated
Would they do what you want them to in your short-sighted childish opinion, Russia would cut gas supply and you would be sitting in a dark cold room by tomorrow and on the street by the day after tomorrow, when the german economy has collapsed and you lost your Job.
you want your country to copy the USA and invest trillions into a military to conduct .. erm .. pre-emptive defensive missions?
Well, duh. Whatever it is Ukraine needs, it certainly isn't insecure foreign politicians' PR tourism. If they want to see more of what's going on, they can ask to see news agencies' unedited footage. There must be hours of it by now.
More like days. Literal days.
Could be even more than that. Modern politics has become so pc & forgetting the possibility of human nature. Zelenskyy is genuinely at risk of assassination & it’s not outside the realm of possibility for a foreign leader or their team to help another. Similarly if Trump was still president- as an American- I would NEVER want Zelenskyy to meet with him, because I absolutely wouldn’t put it past Trump to literally help Putin assassinate him for his own personal gain. I don’t know enough about this president, but I do know Zelenskyy is desperate & doing EVERYTHING he can to get help for his people anywhere he can. For him to do this was not a light decision on his part…
In between billions of dollars in trade and bad decisions poorer nations get the belt
Yeah,i also wonder why it diden't air yet?
@@lolawants2008 "Trump would help Putin assassinate Zelenskyy " What a load of rot. You have been watching CNN to much.
Well, if he wants a warm welcome, just go visit Moscow or Beijing. He will certainly feel at home there.
Staying at home and saying "I tried it, they did not want me." is comfortable enough.
Steimeier already stated that he regrets, that he underestimated russia. A perfect door opener in Berlin. Not very diplomatic from Zelenskyy, but his ambassador in Berlin is in the same way disrespectful.
Well maybe Germany should. Would be interesting whats left of EU without Germany.
@@spba78 well, what Germany would be without Europe and NATO? What Germany would become under Russian and Chinese authoritarian influences?
@@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage Those are pure weasel words from Steinmeier though.
@Ario Amin
Do you have the balls to state in public thst your policy was rubbish and to travel after that to kiev for a fresh start?
As a German I'm deeply ashamed of our spineless "leadership".
Thank you !!!!!
@@tokhongaonii9676 No, it's cowardice. To stand idly by when a friend is getting beat up by a bully is not "neutrality", it's cowardice / selfishness / stupidity ... take your pick.
@UCO30tEudGO8lfXI2LAdYO4Q Neutral??? Germany is in NATO.
@@tokhongaonii9676 because they became friends for protection after they were threaded to get beaten up or got beaten up before- its not rocket science.
@@antred11 I agree I am ashamed of joe Biden for not doing more. We are holding back. We should not be afraid of nuke . USA has nukes too and remind Putin to watch out . He getting away with threatening usa should respond in kind as someone said
That surprised Pikachu face. It's embarassing if they dont know why Mr.Z eventually reacted this way. Not including the hypocritical thing with gazprom and financing RU war machine.
Germany in first weeks: Wants to only send helmets while UKR army needs weapons. Klitschko responded : "What will they send next? Pillows"?
Tries to block other EU countries to send weapons and is still hesitant itself to send weapon in week 6+ into the war. Well deserved rejection.
“They can buy our weapons.” I wonder if Germany wants to stay in NATO? Perhaps they want out.
For German politics, the turn to helping was quite quick when they noticed the reactions. You have to understand that changing 50 years of foreign policy after ww2 wasn't easy. Germany seen delivering weapons always was very tricky considering the history.
Still, I would be happier if politics was a bit faster still...
Slava Ukraini 💛💙
Greetings from Germany
maybe german relate more to russia as they are also former agressor 🤣
@@MT-eb2dx Sure sure.. but that was not a problem at all to sell weapons to Russia for years now with the same policy in place :) Double standards
@@BalticPathfinder Germany never sold a single weapon to Russia.
Why would Kyiv want a Russian friendly politician?
There's this thing called diplomacy, it's how many wars end.
This is just nonsense. Steinmeier as foreign minister was acting according to the government policy back then. Now he holds the office of the president and the Ukrainians should respect that. I think personally that this was a bad move considering that Germany is and was the biggest donor to Ukraine for years.
This type of mindset is one of the many reasons why the war will prolonged.
@@gustavmukki3165 you are absolutely right
@@gustavmukki3165 he is seen as responsible for Ukraines problemand buildingnordstreampipeline.
It's not enough to SAY you've changed. You have to act like it. Germany defending its deals with Russia, at the cost of effective sanctions, isn't showing that in the slightest. Zelensky made the right decision. Germany must start meaningfully ACTING like they support Ukraine, not just saying it, and making token gestures while covering their interests.
I support the current thing! What bs talk
@@rhododendro1212 almost as much bs as your life
Putin is blackmailing Europe to do what he wants. If Zelensky starts the same game he is risking a great deal of his support. "If you are not doing exactly like I want, you are not welcome to Kyiv". I maintain, that is a bad move. We might need to start to reconsider...
@@52Tenor Steinmeier is a Russian stooge. He would also be a security threat to Zelensky.
Germany needs it's Russian business deals. How dare anyone question German decisions.
Thank you DW for bringing these incredibly important facts to light.
UK and US have been pumping weapons into Ukraine for eight years because they wanted this conflict so much. And UKRAINE is getting into deeper debts to pay for these weapons.
US and UK making a lot of money.
Steinmeier offered to implement Minsk PEACE accords.
Now it's clear Ukrainians prefer war to peace. Nobody feels sorry for them 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
This guy: -“We don’t want to be apart of this war.”
Also this guy: -“Why don’t the Ukrainians want our president to meet them?”
Steinmeier has brains and offered his action plan how to implement the Minsk Agreements and give autonomy to Donbass.
Zelensky refused and now he has to give DONBAS full Independence instead of just autonomy
Who was smarter Steinmeier or Zelensky?
@@babblo1389 alright there you Russian bot
@@babblo1389 zombie troll
@@babblo1389 : Wouldn't you feel the same way if your people were dying because of Ukraine. What brains are you talking about? Germany is one of the main reasons why Ukraine was not able to join NATO. Germany still refuses to help Ukraine. Germany is still funding the war. What has Germany done for Ukraine besides enabling Putin?
this let people understand why German is keeping trade no matter how horrible and evil China gov acts
Germany, send Ukraine what they need!!!!
And to Uganda also! Just send what they need
nothings for free
@@marynamalitskaya3534 Was Uganda invaded by Russia like Ukraine?
@@deecee1522 what Ukraine has to do with Germany??? Many countries been invaded just for the past 20 years. One USA has destroyed in 20 years more than Russia in 300 years. Whats your point? Why you care of garbage corrupted greedy Ukraine? Just because it’s against Russia, right?
Why should we?
Steinmeier acted as Putin’s personal lobbyist and agent for years and now suddenly his guilty conscience wants to go to Ukraine to save some face 🤣
If Steinmeier wants to redeem himself maybe he should lobby the German government for an oil embargo on Russia instead.
Steinmeier is NOT showing guilty conscience.
He is showing anger,and blaming Ukraine for lack of diplomacy to him.
oil embargo on russian ? but buy oil from other country ( usa) in higher price ?
Above all, everyone should shrink their oversized ego again. Zelensky made a mistake, yes, but I understand him too. Boris Johnson was in Kyiv, not the Queen.
Well, if Zelensky has nothing better to do than not to lie now, things don't seem so bad for the Ukrainian people.
@🇺🇦 #StandWithUkraine He is the head of the federal state. he don't represent "the german people" not individually that is.
@@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage How is Zelensky "lying"? Ukrainian people are paying the ultimate price, many are still dying everyday. Politicians get too worried about about saving face, ego, about procedures. Has 8 years of procedures worked to prevent genocide? How do you like your home city leveled to ground and meantime unfriendly politicians criticize your leader for not a good host?
Steinmeier: "I supported Russians in building gas-pipe weapon in Baltic sea - I cannot understand Why Ukrainians don't like me?"
Germany is right - Continue to buy oil and gas from Russia - Do not bother with Ukraina
Weapon? You are kidding, ha ha ha ...... are You? Could anybody seriously think that nonsense?
@@manfredschmalbach9023 What would you call it?
@@manfredschmalbach9023 It is a weapon, is that not clear to you now with the events that have unfolded these last two months?
Of course we understand that UK and US have been pumping weapons into Ukraine since for ten years because they wanted this conflict so much. And UKRAINE getting into deeper debts to pay for these weapons.
US and UK making a lot of money.
Steinmeier offered to implement Minsk PEACE accords.
Now it's clear Ukrainians prefer war to peace. Nobody feels sorry for Ukrainian government
Understandable to be honest, there are tens of thousands being killed and if they feel that you have really helped very much then don't expect the red carpet welcome. Just forget the past and help them now any way you can.
Why, so that they can piss on us when they want...
Tahst not how diplomacy works! Hes the representative of the second biggest money donater of Ukraine, he personfies the German people and the 4rd biggest economy on the world, this is not how you treat an ally, who you expect help from.
And as quickly as possible. Quickly goes for the US, too.
Ally?
@@abrahamlincoln5661 Its called " business" . If Ukraine would sell gas, they might get some cash too.
why isn't Germany giving those permissions. it's good that this has been brought out into the open, it seems very odd.
because Russia will not like this
Because they are energy dependent on Russia. If they got too far, half of Germany won’t be able to have heating in their houses.
@@jackparker8602 That would also send the whole EU into a recession. A recession means danger for the EU. When the EU is gone, there will be war again
Germany is the weakest link of NATO. France is right there with them. Of all people, Germany should know that you can never appease a dictator. A lot of European countries tried that in the late 1930s and it gave us WW2
@Ole Ahlers : Did I lie? It's documented. Maybe you don't know the history. Russia is not the only country that has nukes, 'genius'.
You are suffering from your last Prime Ministers bond with the Russian Federation. Germany was warned about this , but she kept up the dialogue with Putin and the new Prime Minister and the German people has to eat it. From German American !
Yikes, Ukrainians really not being appreciative of the help Germany has offered them so far.
German help? What help?
Oh the few helmets they sent ? What a great help!
Woow! The German president was 'ready to show a strong signal'!!
Was that gonna be like sending all those helmets and denying British military cargo aircraft overflight rights so they could deliver essentially defensive type smart weapons to the Ukrainian's. The German state has still got an awful lot of catching up to do.
1. Germany is in fact sending weapons
2. Germany has never denied British planes to fly over Germany. The British just assumed and did not even ask. Then Germany said that this is ridiculous and that they have no reason for such a denying, so the British started to fly over German airspace again.
As a German I really want our government to do much, much more, but please get your facts right! And btw the president has no political power, just like the Queen. He has not much to do with the current government
@@haisheauspforte1632 who cares for facts if you can badmouth Germany
@@nadinefeiler9204 , ever time Germany makes a deal with Russia to get their resources, genocides happen. Must be nice to live in a country where you never had to worry about your security because it was guaranteed by a superior nation.
@@nadinefeiler9204 Sounds like you can't take legitimate criticism. It's nothing to do with badmouthing anyone. It's meant as a wake up call. How bad must German policies have been to find that a leader like Trump, of all people, held the moral high ground over German military spending in Nato.
Well, toiletpaper is also important! I am sure that the Ukranians would appreciate them more than having a Putin's friend sucking up to them and trying to make a fast buck.
Well Poland and UK has more balls than Germany
Do you think that Ukraine is able to win this war? With more weapons?
Or is the only way to win the WW3?
A nuclear war.
Every country have to think about it.
I am Not Sure about it.
But I don't think, it is "having no balls".
It's got nothing to do with balls, UK still buying diesel, USstill buying fertilisers. So they avoid to ban what they need.
UK and Poland two of the closest US allies, even before the war in ukraine.
Poland ex president was Burisma holdings director, working along side Hunter Biden.
Germany meanwhile always trying to find alternative security for EU.
@@Caswas1 i think many germans think this way, like they angry that ukraine is defending that long...they wait till ukraine loose, and things back to "normal" so they can back to biznes as usual with Russia.And that sick
Who can supply German with oil and gas?
@@piotrproszewski3977 The most germans I talked to would like to give weapons to Ukraine. And I do know no person who would trust russia again.
For decades German political and economical system was doing businesses with the Russians.
What exactly do u except from Ukraine? To forget all that?
yes and ths policy allow and encouraged Putin to this aggression so there is a blood on hands of german politicians
For years people had warned Germany of attaching itself at the teat of Russian oil and gas and they refused to listen till it was too late.
Oh, yes. Told you so. After the war Ukraine maybe still exist, but Russia will be on the map for sure. So guess who the ukrainian president will ask for money to rebuild the country.
What's wrong with buying cheap oil and gas from Russia instead of US?
@@xxexcelentdugxx279 It is kinda obvious, isn't it? Unless you are devoid of morals, of course.
Yeah, you can’t do business with Russia because America, the global overlord will punish you.
@@bogdanbaudis4099 Devoid of morals? Every country has it's share of war crimes, yet Russia is the one who got called out, and US did not, that's hypocrisy, and you're talking about morals
why they did it is easy.. this dude has been following some very pro russia stances.. thats it..
Germany is the third largest donor to Ukraine after the European Union as a whole and the US. A little "thank you" would be nice.
@@jankoberle5939 This isn't about donations. this is about the fate of a country. If Germany doesn't militarily support Ukraine with heavy weaponry and impose heavier sanctions on Russia, Ukraine will not care if Germany did humanitarian help. Poland is doing more on that front!
@@jankoberle5939 Since Germany is very likely to pay for the lion's share of what the EU is so generously giving to Ukraine, I'd say it's the second largest donor after the US. The EU has not much income of its own. What they promise to give is paid by its members. And the ones talking the loudest usually pay the least of that bill. The ones talking the very loudest at the moment are the ones taking much more money out of the EU than they put in.
@@jankoberle5939 Is that why the great Germany is helping others? For a thank you? Hypocrites
@@ashvinvaidyanathan7239 And does the Ukraine always bite the hand that feeds them?
Maybe German politicians need to quit blocking the sale of tanks and howitzers to Ukraine, that would at least show solidarity, apart from gas imports.
Its more down to the usa thats blocking some stuff
I think it is an afoul aproch for this goal. I dont Insult you to gaine what I wana this gives youst rome for the Largest Putin fan base in Europe. Sadly this fan base is in Germany.
Already happened.
They snubbed ukraine at the start of the war. They wouldn't even take a phone call while bombs were falling. Honour to ukraine.
We still might commission North stream II to make those pipelines through Ukraine obsolete .....
I believe not just Ukrainians feeling let down by German, who's been close friend of Russia. And China too for that matter.
Imagine finding a war against your neighbors then expecting to go to their country
Think you mean 'funding'.
Imagine Westminster keeping and indolent who can't tell the difference between a party and work ...and pretending he is Winston Churchill....while the people of Britain starve and freeze.....
if we stopped buying gas, our economy would collapse, people would die because they could no longer heat and the number of deaths would be dramatically higher than in ukraine. The money they make from gas is only a small percentage of Russia's GDP.
It doesn't take much to understand Ukrainians decision. But I give credit to the German president for understanding, acepting and moving on.
He has been against Ukraine and friendly to Russia for years. He was trying to use Ukraine now for political points back home. The US and other eastern NATO members, heck even Finland and Sweden have helped more than Germany. Ukraine not going to support a lukewarm political ally. Their better off waiting for a friendly administration.
Could be even more than that. Modern politics has become so pc & forgetting the possibility of human nature. Zelensky is genuinely at risk of assassination & it’s not outside the realm of possibility for a foreign leader or their team to help another. Similarly if Trump was still president- as an American- I would NEVER want Zelensky to meet with him, because I absolutely wouldn’t put it past Trump to literally help Putin assassinate him for his own personal gain. I don’t know enough about this president, but I do know Zelensky is desperate & doing EVERYTHING he can to get help for his people anywhere he can. For him to do this was not a light decision on his part…
And where do you think is the majority of the money the EU is so freely giving to Ukraine coming from? From Finland and Sweden? THINK before you comment.
"So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."
@Lynette Agueda So the majority of the billion Euros that the *EU* has given to Ukraine so far is coming from the *US*?
Political points? Thats nonsense. This is his final stint as a politician - a politician without any real decision making power. He doesnt need to make points because there will be nothing for him after his presidency.
Germany's "too little too late" policy at its finest.
Well would you like to have a meeting on Ukrainian support with a person that is mostly responsible for rebuilding Russian army and paid for the bombs that are now falling on and killing your pepole? And he suposed to show support? i mean that is bad taste on so many levels...
Benedetta’s I support Ukraine, one of the most corrupt countries in Europe campaign at its finest.
This guy is partly a reason why all this nightmare happening. He was the biggest lobbies of "let's trade with Russia and don't care about Ukrainians".
he can come to Mariupol or Bucha and Irpin, to see with his own eyes what his trade partners did.
Oh yes. Scholz is guilty for Mariupol and for Bucha. What's against a reality check?
Sure. Trying to keep Chinese nukes out of Moscow and Russian troops away from Kyiv = being responsible for he war. Chamberlain was wrong. But he had the best possible intentions.
Germany fears soooo much of Russia and small Latvia sending everything they have... God bless America for helping Ukraine
They've been helping for years to start the proxy war, actually they've been "helping" in 80% of the wars around the world since WWII, the peacemakers
Germans heavily rely on Russian oil explains they are more scared Lativa I believe have own reserves unlike Germany
What is war is good for
It is a historical fear
Everyone will receive middle finger 🖕 by Ukraine in the future don’t be surprised 😂
I admire Ukraines 'EYES WIDE OPEN. BRAVO.
no they're not lol, they're just literally being used by west to confront russia.
Steinmeieron going to Ukraine is like sending Ribbentrop on a diplomatic visit to Poland after the second world war to send a strong message about Germany's resolve rebuilding a peaceful Europe after a devastating war.
Well said!
German money is funding Putin's war machine. Between Russia and Germany it's hard to decide which is the biggest curse on Europe.
You lack of politician education is disturbing. How do you expect to vote if you can not even follow basic news?
@@Arcaryon "You lack of politician education is disturbing"
... and your inability to use Google Translate is expected .,. you troll.
We do not need signals, we need tanks, howitzers, armored vehicles. And these messages of "..we need to talk to our NATO members first.." is another embarrassment. Time matters. Otherwise just say “No”.
You are right, but this signal does not stop weapons deliveries. Ukraine at the same time denies Germany yet they beg us for more free stuff.
It's not an embarrassment to discuss stuff with other NATO members lol. It's called co-operation between allies.
Simple answer. Stop funding the enemy and do your duty as the 'leader' of the EU. Set an example already.
Yes agree, German should sacrifice ITS own people for 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
germany likes dragging feet, trying to be friends with everyone and most of all getting good deals
Isn't the gas and oil still flowing through Ukrainian pipelines from Russia financing the war while Zelensky get a nice payout?
@@raygeno7937 I think they actually expect that...
@@pv8249 read he owns mansions in Tuscany Florida Belize. his worth about 1.2 billion. numerous sources..
Germany needs to raise its game as a global and European leader. We have a saying in UK, actions speak louder than words. they have benefitted from other countries payments into Nato and they need to move quickly and not just be thinking of their own nation's comfort when the rest of us have dialled down our use of Russian energy.
Hungary is worse.
Free Julian Assage or say nothing about Freedom, Democrazi, rule of law or any other of your bleatings, in my opoinion your country is as corrupt as Ukraine
@@skny2282 Oh yes Ordoban is almost beyond the pale. But Germany is big country... what Germany does counts. Unfortunately this Putin loving fellow Steinmeier is behaving like a child. Germany should realise that snubbing the nasty man that is Steinmeier is not the same as snubbing the office of President. Steinmeier appears to be too babyish to understand this unfortunately. I don't invite the man ( President of the local golf club) who raped my wife to dinner but that does not mean that I am against the golf club.
Poland is even worse
@Joan Weightman - Isn't UK nearly self sufficient in Oil from the North Sea? Germany is an industrial nation that needs cheap energy. Russia is an energy Superpower. They can easily sell their energy to China more cheaply while Germany's energy bill will rise.
As somebody of German descent I have much to be embarrassed about (fortunately my antecedents s left before both wars), but the way that Germany has been cosying up to autocratic Russia is just another thing to be ashamed off.
As a country that has caused so much harm and misery in the 20th century you'd hope they would lead the field in condemning and destroying the economic base of that tyranny.
Germany's actions (or, more accurate) inactions here are shameful. Equally shameful is the relatively mild reponse from the USA
I have faith Germany is not what it was and that it stands for democratic values, inclusion, etc.
MemoFromEssex - how are you ashamed of something you dont have anything to do with nor obviously know anything about? Not about then nor about now. No offence. But thats rather... not thought through.
If you sit in a boat with someone, no vests and anything, you dont sink it just to see the other one drowning.
🙄
Any pending visit to Kyiv should probably be made by the German Chancellor -- not the president.
If Ukraine has snubbed Germany in this way, there have got to be reasons other than ‘past history’ to explain it. And why snub a country that has been supplying you with some arms against Russia? Two possible answers - Germany blocking any attempt to cut purchases of Russian oil and gas, or Germany blocking the shipment of heavy armaments - maybe both.
That most likely
Nope.....it's simply la k of foresight and past history
Agreed.
Ukraine and other countries begged Germany to stop encouraging Russia by building NS2, they said it will lead to war, but Germany did not listen and Steinmeier was directly responsible for that.
Germany made Putin the 'man' he is today, and they still fund him.
I hope Germany continues to find ways to become more energy independent that way it can pursue policies that align with its best interests.
Germanys dependency on russia is Merkels fault.
Germany made Putin the 'man' he is today, and they still fund him.
Hahaha Kiev showing the middle finger to Germany 🤣🤣🤣 and then begs Germany to accept it in EU. Now it's time for us to show middle finger to Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Germany is not interested in energy independence. They are just a treacherous ally and has been for at least 20 years. Their self imposed energy dependence on Russia is just an excuse. Germany decided the close its perfectly safe and functioning nuclear power plants while signing climate accords that restrict coal mining in Germany. Which allowed the last 3 chancellor to get rich off the nordstream deal. I would gladly trade Ukraine for Germany. The Pols have been called out Germany for their actions. Obama and Trump did so as well.
@@babblo1389 Agreed. Ukraine should be left to fight on their own. We should stay out of it.
German leadership needs to take hold of their figurative balls, and do the right thing. Stop hemming and hawing and wringing your hands, and do your part.
I'm instantly reminded of their initial offer to Ukraine: 5000 helmets.
That was a shameful bowing down to Pootin'.
They had to be humiliated into giving more, into doing more. I can only imagine how angry German citizens are at their overly-cautious leaders.
German leadership?
Germany is part of EU, NATO and UN and will surely communicate with it's partners before they make steps further.
Nobody in europe want a german leadership, not even the people there.
@@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage That's not even close to what I meant, man.
In a nutshell, I meant "German leadership" as in the leaders of that country; not as in Germany leading the way for others. They've made it clear they will not do more than they're forced to.
And now German leaders are STILL trying to balk, and all due to Russian gas. They have alternatives they could use. But I think they're more worried about how much $ they stand to lose over the Nord Stream pipeline being unused than they are the lives of Ukrainian civilians.
Politicians suck. They make life harder and harder for everyday people like us.
@@Quazi-moto the allies made sure germany never gets the courage to have a military
The germans owe nothing to anyone .
The USA is the one who should pay for ukraine's difference
Ya, the helmets, that was insulting.
The helmet think was pathetic. And now we should send heavy weapons, but Im against a gas embargo, because recking our economy, which still has a lot chemical industry and manufacturing is not an option. I wont support any measures which lead us into poverty.
Edit: we need to diversify to get rid of the dependance, but this takes time. I know Ukraine has no time, but thats why I think we need to send heavy weapons.
The Ukrainians are right, they did well in my opinion
Zelensky is a puppet of CIA, and the secondary responsible for the horror what we see there - after Putin!
@@kevhynaleks2631 🤣🤣🤣 you trolls are hilarious
@@kevhynaleks2631 You guys are more of a joke than your war ships 🤣🤣🤣
For Ukrainians, Steinmeier's name has a clear association with the past Minsk agreement with Russia, and "Steinmeier's formula" as a procedure to implement it. Very clever move from Selensky to decline Steinmeier's visit under these circumstances.
Friendly reminder that Russia was a MODERATOR of the Minsk agreement, not a party to it. This should give one an idea of just how much of a farce it was.
Hehehe..german must need to not giving anything to that zelensky
Funny
But not clever than he needs help from Germany, On Twitter, the people who are more pro-Putin take advantage of this and get more support through this insult.
In fact, today news have started to talk negatively about the Ukrainian ambassador, who practically only insults, demands etc.
He did not come to a concert of the Federal President, because Russian musicians played there (who live in Germany for years and have nothing against Ukraine).
The concert was more or less an offer of reconciliation from the president to the ambassador and Ukraine, also because he regrets his Russia course.
But well that and many other things do not go down well in politics, although no one wants to say anything publicly, but he does not make friends.
No, if you have an enemy like Russia you shouldn't send mixed signals to your allies.
I am by all means ashamed by my gov blocking industry deliveries to Ukraine.
A full scale delivery will be considered an act of war by Russia. And then it is likely that Russia will attack Germany by cutting gas - economic collapse and poverty will be the result.
The problem in this, without Russian Gas, there wont be any weapons build to be delivered. Its a dumb argument from the Ukrainians...I hate it too, but its the sad truth. Blocking someone who already apologized is in no way okay and I think the Ukrainians should be somewhat low-key in those issues. The German Nationalists will get their rise out of these issues and thats not at all what we want in Europe.
Steinmeier knows what hos role has been in selling out Germany to Russia and now denied a PR tour makes a big stink because of personal offense taken.
You have to call a spade a spade. The last two decades of cooperation between Germany and Russia are identical to the Ribbentrop-Molotov agreement before World War II. At that time, the victims of this cooperation were Poland and the Baltic States. It was the beginning of the war.
No, they aren't identical at all.
You need psychological help, you delusions are way out there
@@jaikee9477 wonderful rebuttal, backed by plenty of verifiable facts. Your teachers must be proud.
Yer not serious? The current situation does not in any way resemble the Ribbentrop/Molotov Pact. But what it does MOST DEFINITELY show an attitude of "Germany First".
@@reamoinmcdonachadh9519 yeah well we are really at a bind here. Once we lack gas our industry might collabs. Which is basically destroying us ourself. But yeah we failed Ukraine which is why I fully understand their stand. I can only argue that in our perspective we only want peace. And right now the overall populace is fully commited in support Ukraine. We are already mad at our Government because of the lack of actions we have done right now.
Germany seems to be making big mistakes in its lacking real and timely support for Ukraine with its military equipment. I hope Germany will be on the right side of history, this time!
Don't worry, Germany is in the right side of history. They donated 500 helmets to Ukraine afterall. Made a huge impact in the war.
@@pantherowow77 nice one
you ungreatfull apes seem to forget who removed soviets from ukraine 80 years ago. germany was always on the right side.
@@pantherowow77
These were German Bundeswehr helmets. Im sure each one destroyed several tanks.
Well not sending insane and irresponsabile amount of heavy weapons is not being on the wrong side of history.
More weapons means more death in Ucraine, and a lack of real positive prospect for negotiation talks.
Didn't the guest want to have and eat his cake at the same time?
"Bad of Ukraine for not inviting Steinmeieron, because he has really changed"
"I don't know what we are giving Ukraine, everything is a secret, but I don't think it's the help Ukraine needs."
"And I also know we haven't even approved sales even though everything else is in place."
THE GUYN WAS REJECTED FOR BEING PRO RUSSIAN U SANDWICH
I think all his responses can be put together into a cohesive picture. I don't see any real contradictions. He might feel that welcoming Steinmeieron might enhance the ability to get Germany to send more than what they are doing now, and pave the way for permission for private companies to sell heavy equipment. There's no real clash in what he said.
You must teach a child that they can't always get what they want, when they demand it. Ukraine hasn't learned that lesson yet. You go to War with what you have not with what you want...
@@steve-o6413 Except they didn't go to war, but the war came to them.
@@steve-o6413 to be fair, Ukraine did not get a choice to go to war and they have been very open about compromise, meeting with Russia. They didn't even make a big public fuss over the poisoning of negotiators. They are fighting for their very survival and they should be speaking out where they need to, 'fortune favors the bold' as they say.
Frankly, someone whose foreign policy has been shown to be so catastrophically improvident and borderline idiotic, should not be in the politics anymore.
Steinmeier, Schröder, Zeman, Le Pen and other Mitläufer of the Kremlin should be tossed in the proverbial dustbin of history. But then again, with majority of these, there are doubts as to whether they have any loyalty that can be called into question.
One wonders if Ukraine needs anyone's help if they can be choosy about where it comes from.
ya. deutsche uber alles
It is time Germany made it mind up about this conflict. Help the ukrainians not be dragging their feet.
Why should they?
It might be too late at this point. Germany did this to itself. Countries that are only part of the EU shouldn't trust either Germany or France.
This US engineered conflict was to destroy the German economy and make her dependent on the US . Germany is now screwed for life
Stick it where sun don’t shine!
@@TMM-N Because if you don't stop those who bully others, you will be next.
The German government had years to become less dependent on Russian oil. This is the failure of the German government, and as a result Germany is responsible for funding the war against Ukraine with billions of dollars in the last month and a half going to Russia for oil. 😒 I love the German people, I just hope they elect better people to government in the future.
Like trade is a bad thing. Say thanks to Greens who weakened their energy structure including atomic powerplants.
The Russian economy is very reliant on their exports of oil and gas but their buyers are many nations. Germany buying has from them is a lot compared to other European countries but still little compared to the rest of the buyers. Even if Germany stopped buying oil it would do little to stop the war and just slow down weapon production for Ukraine. The main bulk of the Russian army is from the Soviet time so Germany couldn’t have funded it.
We dont have much of a choice here.
We changed between SPD and CDU trough Generations never seeing any change in the Future.
And voting AFD is like voting for Trump.
The Germans are being brainwashed by their politicians for 100 years. It's already so ingrained in their culture, they think it's normal.
Germany made Putin the 'man' he is today, and they still fund him.
If Germany didn't block military shipment through its airspace early on, then Ukraine might be much more friendly. Remember what Kyiv Mayor said to you a couple of months ago?
Access to airspace was never requested. Please stick to the facts.
What a load of rubbish, David. Sorry, but this did never happen.
@@codiersklave i know, and Russians never kill civilians.
did they ever get their german pillows?
you mean the Schwarzenegger Kyiv?
I'm from Poland and I think it's a strange situation🤔. Germany is changing its position, it would be good if the German president go to Kiev. Good for Ukraine.unnecessary show 🤦♂️
Even Zelensky has his priorities, personal revenge was more important than help for the people.
prior to the war germany did stop the baltic states sending weapons to ukraine which in retrospect was a mistake I can understand why the germans did it . I like germans a lot but you were walking a tight rope and I can understand why you concentrated more on diplomacy . you really should allow the export of weapons now as the war has started and neither side look like stopping and it is going to be decided by force on the ground
They also tried to stop the UK from sending weapons by denying them access to Ukraine via German air space. So they had to go the long way around which meant the weapons didn't reach Ukraine as fast as either the UK or Ukraine would have preferred.
@@ABC1701A No, they did not deny access to Germany's air space. That's just another lie invented by the daily mail. You better check your sources.
@@ABC1701A that's not true. The British just assumed they would block it, but after Scholz explicitly said they would not have blocked the airspace.
Send anything useful. Make sure its simple or easily trained to use. Germany had its head cut off after WW2. Obvious the head is still floating.
I can see how Ukraine needs Germany but not vice versa
I do not know everything about this situation between Germany & Ukraine, but seems to me right now That Ukraine can use all the friends & help they can get. I think it was a mistake not to have Germany there with the others.
But Germany is not doing anything, and it's not _planning_ on doing anything either.
I have to agree. I understand their anger, but that won’t win wars.
I think they proved a valid point. Germany has and are still helping Russian gas/financial market in a way that is hard to accept for most EU members. To make your enegy sector dependent on a regime like Russia is so far from okay that it should almost be punishable. Any house in Germany that is gas heated should mandatory be set to 12C. Put on some clothes and take one for the team of freedom!!!!!
@@hashtagunderscore3173
Germany's refusal to actually help Ukraine is what won't win wars.
Germany faces economic difficulties from supporting sanctions against Russia, but Ukraine doesn't like the German President?
What does Zelenskyy want? ..... 🤔
He wants weapon and he is right
@@Blanka1100 Maybe, the means to reach it not. Scholz have every reason not to travel to Ukraine.
If you enable my enemy, amidst past concerns, then you're my enemy too! Simply put 🤷
Many people questioned German sanity as they spent the last 20 years courting Putin. It seemed mercenary or even naïve and I can't say which is the truer of the two. While it was important to try and maintain some kind of relationship with Russia, Germany seemed to pursue it despite Putin's incursions into neighbouring countries. I choose to think the best of Germany and hope that it was done out of a gesture, albeit futile, to keep the dictator in a peaceful posture. It's all water under the bridge now.
Finally, if German policy is to keep the war from escalating one would have to ask for the definition of the word. To a Ukrainian I am sure the war couldn't escalate much more than it already has.
Did you?
What an awful situation. Very good comment & information. I guess he had it coming, imo.
Like most governments, they just saw 140 million customers in Russia
Yeah good points... I think as well that at least some parties in Germany truly aspired for the interlink between the Russian and German economy so that it served as a deterrent against war, so that when the time came, they would be able to hit them hard with sanctions. Of course now that reality catches up to us and turns out that they became so dependent that now it is not an easy decision to make. In between all the mess I don't doubt for a second that the Russian lobby in Germany bought some key actors as well. So it is not completely innocent nor completely intentional, it was a combination of different actors with good and selfish intentions.
Ukraine is always suppose to be a buffer state.
Stand with Ukraine 🇺🇦 💕💕💕
We people of Poland remember German and Russian friendship. This is not a surprise.
Ukrainians have massive respect for Germany, but the German president himself might not have the best reputation in Ukraine because of something called "Steinmeier formula":
"Steinmeier proposed that elections be held in the separatist-held territories of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, which are de facto controlled by Russian-backed separatists and governed as the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and Luhansk People's Republic (LPR)."...
Once in 2019 Zelensky agreed many people protested against this saying that this is treason.
Also, "Separatist militants in the occupied Donbass consequently stated that Ukraine signing these agreements was "a victory for the DPR and the LPR over Ukraine"."
Vice Chancellor Robert Habeck (Greens) commented on the incident. “The Federal President is Germany. And that is why his invitation by President Zelenskyj is an invitation of Germany”. "Unfortunately, I have to say it this way: the Ukrainian side made a diplomatic mistake."
A government of a true democracy does not hide information from its' parliament. German politician need to stop the BS and get the work done quick!
Confidential informations of secret service and security counsil ? Of course are informations of security cousil not available to 500 members of parliament.
It's like Biden discussing things with his minister of defence. It's secret. Not public on TV. Or is america not democratic?
Germany was in 16 years ago one of the best and effective partner for putin .Because of that the Russian money circulate in European union and now is difficult for them to be free from Russia.
Everything is economy for them.
The war in ukraine is the confirmation of their policy
I wish my government were that mercenary! Instead, everything is about self interest! Sheesh! More war-time Zelensky's would be the ideal. My country is falling apart due to greed and incompetence. With all that, it has tied its wagon to Putin. Repaying the anti-apartheid struggle and all!
We'll never know if the appeasement approach would have worked, but yes, in retrospect one part of NATO trying to appease Putin and the other trying to isolate him was doomed to fail.
@@Argosh Buddy, we know appeasement of militaristic dictators absolutely and utterly does not work. We know because it was attempted on Germany and lead to the bloodiest war in history. The third reich could have been easily crushed early if everyone opposed them before they re-armed and annexed many free peoples...
Infuriating that anyone could still think Putin is a man that can be "appeased".
@@Anonymous-ld7je and if you knew the name of the man responsible for appeasing Germany you might have realized I referred to him already. However Germany itself has shown that appeasement sometimes works. That's why there is now one Germany and not West- and East-Germany...
The same can be said about Glasnost & Perestroika. Many of the countries we are talking about now owe their freedom and democracy to the peaceful end of the Soviet Union.
Yeah, you seem to have forgotten about that part. The Soviet Union was successfully defeated. By peace.
That does not mean - and indeed current events prove it - that appeasement can't fail. But also it's not guaranteed to fail.
As I initially wrote: It's sad we will never know if appeasement could've worked. The split strategy of NATO, the EU and Germany ("F*** the EU" - Victoria Garland, ambassador to the EU appointed by Barack Obama) likely is causally linked to Russia's aggressive stance.
It doesn't excuse it, but it failed to stop it.
seems like good business practice...
Germany's policy of Finlandization must come to an end. Also for the future of a peaceful and protected Europe that all democratic Europeans want. Steinmeier stands for this weakness. The German chancellor found right words to send a message to Russia`s elite, but Steinmeier does not.
by the way; Finland seems on the way to apply for NATO membership. Will Germany block this in fear of Russia?
germany constantly blocks everything because of fear, that sucks. Russia is no threat for Nato. And I really hope they let Finland and sweden join Nato because Vladolfer Putler got his eyes on that sweet juicy european land.
@@hztgfghjzug2146 no threat for nato
Ignores nukes
Germany changed there politics completely which we didn't do for any other country so far... And thats under a new green/liberal government..
Second thing is that doing trade is seen in western Europe as a good and valid way to secure peace, because we was quite successful after ww2 with holding peace.. So doing trade with Russia is or was totally fine..
But I understand, it's quite easy to blame a country out of assumption
german military and politics drowns under paper and immobilism. Germany does not want to turn off the oil and gas faucet, and does not want to give any military support. They promised a few old and new tanks..... for 2024.... No comment.
@@chargehanger they offered nothing.. Stop spamming your BS... Rheinmetall Said they could deliver Leopard 1a5 to Ukraine.. And not a German politicians
And they said that, after they got ask what would be possible to send..
I don’t blame them for snubbing him…
Ohh Germany will be now very offended that someone respond to them that way for their hypocrisy politics.
@Ole Ahlers to de-escalate and also make some money by using russian gas to fuel its economy...and resell some too, thanks to NS2.
@Ole Ahlers I as a German can say that we have primitive tactics then
As for ns2, Germany wanted not only to stop paying transit fees to Eastern European states but also to become an oil distributor in western Europe, transiting russian oil througu its territory and getting paid fees itself. As if Germany was not enough of an economic hegemon already.
@@av199 but Germany is not paying transit fee for north streem 1 ! so what you talking about? It’s not only about money but pressure that gas threat would make on countrys that doesn’t wanna fallow German (EU) “instructions”. Besides more money is always more control. Germans know that very well.
@@av199 but as far as I know at this moment German politicians understood that mistake. But Zelenski is right about his position now. A little bit to late this understanding appeared
You are always welcome in Kiev if you have a bunch of rockets in your trunk. Symbolic visits don't stop Russian tanks.
Exactly he just wanted to look good, and that visit was a way to sweep his faults under the rug.
Slava Ukraine
Absolutely correct!
apparently Zelensky is not a target.. with all these announced visits it would be easy for Putin to find him if he wanted to
@@anjamo2307 European leaders are good human shields - but i see your logic.
I can understand more zelinsky's frustrated he's had thousands and thousands of his people die and at the same thing happened in Germany they would feel differently too.
Next complain is, that germany only send old trash. So donate weapons or not, our friends will complain. Scholz is right not to send heavy weapons, ask Uncle Sam for that.
Deliberadly building all economic around Russian energy, despite warnings. Still being against oil-gas embargo and paying billions to Russia every day (even after admitting your mistakes) and Not permitting private armes sales to Ukraine for unclear seasons...
But somehow,, still surprised why the German president isn't welcome in Ukraine...Well I always thought logical reasoning was the strongest part of German officials...so use it, please.
Steinmeier level of pretense is not what I expect of the German people. Most I encounter are just, logical, and brave to call out injustice.
@@CT-uc6jw Agreed. I'm more about German political class, not about German people.
I think German people support more aid to Ukraine and more actions against Russia.
The German logic is strange one. It works perfect in technical field, but horrible in human relations. For geopolitics you need a strong understanding of human nature, in general, and culture specific, and this is where the Germans fail horrible. That is why all their major geopolitical "friendships" in the last 20 years since they started to lead Europe, have fallen apart. They should stick to making cars and the alike, this is what they are good at. Let "good relationships" to leaders and nations that are in touch with human reality.
I don’t think this should cause any hard feelings. It’s understandable given the situation that Ukraine is going through.
Not ideal diplomacy but somewhat understandable. They don't mind the office but the history of the person filling that office right now.
Yes I know he apologized...
It would be very unfortunate if this is now taken as a slight against the office itself...
In what way is idiocy understandable...
Exactly
It put Scholz ( chancellor) in an impossible position. Chancellor and president can’t be seen to undermine each other. Most countries have division of power and responsibilities between different roles. How is making it nearly impossible or at least extremely difficult for Scholz to accept the invitation helping? How is Scholz potentially losing valuable political capital helpful? Steinmeier and Scholz are from the same political party, which is not helping either. I just can’t see how this diplomatic is really that helpful or clever… and I do not even like Steinmeier at all.
Half measures are why Ukraine is in the trouble it's in.
Biden is letting Putin set the terms,and Germany is also.
Half measures are for COWARDS,either your in or your out. Smart move? i don't know yet. Bold & decisive ? Yes.
@@joejohnson5381 BOLD !
A past trainer once told me " you're either a part of the solution or the problem...need to make a choice."
BTW who still continues doing biz on energy inspite of sanctions in the world even though they belong to Nato??
And the visit by Germany's president was once again for the purpose of a strong statement? That benefits who??
As far as I know there are no sanctions or embargoes on Russian gas, Germany needs Russia gas was too much that’s way, it may not be right but Germany can’t get other sources of gas for months if not years if they cut of Russia gas
It’s fun to watch someone try and use critical thinking
Maybe Manuela "Nord Stream 2" Schwesig would like to ask if she can visit Kyiv? It took a lot of courage to tell Steinmeier not to come at a time when they're desperate for all the help they can get. And if the Germans have any decency, the'll just accept it and move on instead of being insulted. Because once again, Germany has shown it still hasn't earned any lessons. They were willing to ignore the occupation of Crimea and eastern Ukraine, assassinations and assassination attempts, shooting down of a civilian airliner, and on and on. All for the sake of money, low cost labor and energy. Well, it only took thousands of deaths for the German government to realize that bowing before Putin was a bad idea. But I'm guessing that the CEOs of Siemans, Deutsche Bank, Allianz and Linde are just hoping this will calm down so they can get back to business as usual.
Thank you for caring about our decency.
I hope Schwesig will visit Ukraine, I assume she won't come back since they would lynch her
If he's really regretted about his past dealings with the madmen and wants to help, than don't take the rejection as a slight & start by further building that trust, lost. Unity isn't impossible.
He got rejected and Ukrainian children are being killed ... yeah it's the same level of hurt. Honestly this german politician needs to swallow his pride, but that will never happen.
The problem is that there are private companies that have heavy weapons that Ukraine wants to buy but the German government have refused permission..the same Germany refused to give Ukraine weapons for weeks ,they continue to buy Russian gas…this same party also blocked ukraines nato ambitions in 2008…
WOW Kiev showing the middle finger to Germany 🤣and then begs Germany to accept it in EU. Now it's time for us to show middle finger to Ukraine 🇺🇦
@@babblo1389 in case it wasn't obvious: "Bab Blo" is brand new Russian troll account used in this case to foment discord among Putin's many enemies
Russian Gas and Weapons go hand in hand. Without the first, the second doesn't exist. This slap in the face was not needed at all...They could have gone a much more sensible way, like asking Germany to put "Gerhard Schröder" on the sanction list. But no they took the big slap and now everyone has to do mending...its just dumb. This thing gives the far Right ammunition in a bigger election year in Germany.
With good reasons. They were the ones with France that nixed their NATO membership. They pushed for MORE Russian deals after 2014, they didn't let their MARDER IFVs be transferred to Ukraine even after the builder was willing to replace them with new ones for the Army. And they are the ones doing the mist stalling and arguing around deliveries. So YEAH. Germans are probably NOT really high on the list of BFFs.
Why should they do that? The US delivering Humvee , no tanks, no jets, no artilery. Scholz looks carefully around Let me tell you a secret,: his first responsibility are german people.
@@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage , no his first priority is the wishes of your biggest customer and security guarantor, the US. Your Germany, not France, you are a dependent of the US, when it comes to military matters know your place, and economic matters, follow the lead of your elders kid. If you want to trade with the Big Boys and live the fantasy of Germany being a leading county you may want to actually become energy, militarily and economically independent, strange concept to a German but give it a try.
@@rgb3201 France and Germany are themselves major arms exporters.
@RHB So, with this knowlegde you should ask Uncle Sam for weapons
@@Kartoffelsuppe_m_Wursteinlage exactly, hence Germany's first public confirmation for arms purchases with the 100 billion was 35 US made F-35s. See, the government gets it.
Ukraine should give German President/Government a chance. Better to connect bridges-not lengthen them-between countries that want to reach out and support Ukraine in any ways.
I think it was not in the Ukraine's best interest given the current situation to reject other leaders' good intentions.
Agreed.
This didn't sit well with many Germans
Germany should not ignore it history from the past, this time Germany has golden opportunity to play positive role to be a mediator to stop the war .
Germans choose to finance genocides if they can't do more on their own becouse of american occupation
The German president did the right thing... Undertood and moved on. Time will tell.
Which history? Dig for the bones of my grandfather and hold him accountable.
Germany paid dearly. Enough already... or are you holding other countries also accountable for their past atrocities? such a one tracked mind
You’ll have to talk to the Americans if you want to stop the war because they started it, Zalensky is a puppet who makes no decisions, is controlled by the US who will decide when it is over. The US has publicly said it wants to wear Russia down economically. You’ve been duped, this was a set up by America for a proxy war using Ukraine bodies….why would Americans use their own people? They don’t care about Ukraine, and even couldn’t find it on a map.
As a Brit, I hope Germany can come away from Russian energy.
It's also nice to see UK and Germany working together on alternative energy.
Putin the mad man is finished.
How about UK provides them with alternative gas? Like fart in plastic bags and ship them accross the north sea.
@@blackpearllucky279 forget about gas, GB has lots of sea around them where lots of tidal wave energy plants could be pushed to not only allow GB energy independance, but maybe also sell to the EU market. Also plastic bags, really? Thats not helping the environment at all -_-
As a German I very much appreciate close connections to UK.... despite Brexit Germans and Brits should stick together... It would be a much better match than with the French.... Especially with the english we are well connected, Anglo-Saxon and Saxons the same tribe... 🏴🇬🇧🇩🇪❤️🤗
@@blackpearllucky279 you made me laugh loud 🤣🤣🤣well said 😂🤔
the alternative energy is in the next supermarket lol just you to look a bit
I feel exactly the same….
32$ billion. That’s how much the EU has paid for Russian oil since the war started in February. That would by why I think this happened, Germany is funding this war in the most literal sense.
Also the whole WW2 genocide thing too, what a mess.
Germany is not EU, if that is the case why kyev receive poland? Other member of EU
@@filiperosa7496 my bad, I won’t both editing it but I meant only Germany (who imports the highest amount in the EU) … they get roughly 35% of their lng/oil says google … in a Quarter that’s over 30B$ 😳
That attitude will lead to a big loss for Germany political influence in Europe as well as german economy. Eastern european countries will see USA and UK as their strategic partners. France and Germany will lose its significance.
you're wrong, stop manipulating yourself.
lets not forget Germany comes from 10 years streak of underperformance and failed projects BEFORE this crisis
Oh so you mean it’s Germany’s attitude causing this ? Germany providing weapons and supplies to Ukraine and all I can see here that is Ukraine having attitude
france will do anything to get rid of the USA from what it alone deems as european affairs that means cutting a deal with russia at the expense of the eastern europeans.
@@conhelios its not about the FACTS its about the timing
Is he not also closely economically tied to Russia, or is that someone else?
It’s him and his SPD party which includes the former German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder who became a Russian energy company board member and lobbyist for Putin in Germany.
@@TheGQBrotha Schroeder, yes. Thank you for the correction.
Germany's handling of Russia and this crisis is shameful. Not since 1945 has Germany acted with so little honour and integrity.
He forgot to bring a bag full of euros with him to pay the fee for the show.
Yeah I mean he did wrong politics and the past and now it seems like Germany still lacks the courage to fully support Ukraine.
Maybe you should do some research before stating something like that. Germany is the biggest supporter of Ukraine since 2014.
Germany must not support Ukraine. In fact it is good Germany is still buying Russian gas
Very dissapointed in Germanys reluctance to anything during this war, they were draging their feet in every aspect and was constantly pushed to do something. So much of the leader, as it is evident allies cannot rely on Germany. This will go bad in history as a failure, dramatic failure.
It is very dangerous to take sides against a nuclear superpower and when your country depends on them for energy. Ever hear of the word diplomacy? Simpleton.
Redas, I agree from Hamburg.
Germany would act like the Russians if they could is why.
@@silveriver9 Every heard the phrase lie with dogs and you get fleas.
Well Ukraine is basically just demanding stuff and Germany isn’t getting really something in return. They build hospitals and infrastructure in Ukraine and send money before the war to stimulate their economy. It’s a very one sided deal that helps Ukraine so they could show some gratitude and set their own opinion aside. On top of that they are also treating their wounded people.
Words have become cheap and carry no value to anyone anymore. Germany must recognize this and speak through actions. Otherwise it loses the chance to define how it will be seen by others in the future. It is painfully plain that German forceful policy led Europe straight back to the atrocities from the WWII. The country needs to own up to this and start rebuilding trust of it's allies with firm actions. The Minister's push for opening German heavy industry for use by Ukrainians is the right move in this direction. At least it can be said then that Germany is fueling Ukraine's defense with Russian gas.
the world is okay still
Smurf !
I think Germany has carried this can long enough ...don't you
Germany has donated more money to Ukraine than any other country, is now exporting weapons directly to Ukraine, has tripled its military budget. What actions do you want? If you're going to criticise Germany for russian gas you should criticise ALL Baltic states and Poland who are also almost 100% dependant on russia fossil fuels. Sounds like you just like crazy right wingers like Duda (who has been undermining the Eu and thus strengthening Russia) to talk big but actually do nothing material
Why is everyone talking about germany not supporting? What did other NATO countries do to help?
I was born and raised in Georgia and i totally understand why. Germany blocked Geo to be member of Nato and started the war (Russia attack Georgia in 2008) and then Germany blocked Ukraine twice... enough to be said Germany paying the price for not outing from Gasprom even though they promised . Now Germany ( unwillingly of corse) paying the price on moral side. Price is hard ( Ukrainians life is taking ) . That should be the lesson for not crossing the moral red lines . Peace to Ukraine! Glory to heros
I just want to understand why Ukraine want every single country to be concern about the Ukrainein interests not the German citizens interestsot the French citizens interests? It's your problems you have to understand that. stop lecturing countries that takes their interest first, to begin with this war is yours Ukraineins not the whole world War.
Dumb move on the part of the Ukrainians. The guy has admitted he was wrong and they need all the friends they can get.
Because steinmeier has been friend of Rusia by seeeeevveeral years despite warnings of Baltic countries and Poland not to do so and also he rejected to welcome Ucrania to be part of EU years ago. That doesn't forget so easily.
A simple apologize is not enough when you see your people being attacked, murdered and invaded by steinmeier's friends.
Actually, it was a brilliant move by ukraine, tactically and strategically. The USA just committed another billion of heavy arms to ukraine. Meanwhile germany still sends 1 billion dollars per day to buy putins oilgas.
Maybe Zelenskyy knows that Germany has been saying one thing publicly but privately have not been doing a darn thing that is helping Ukrainian security.
So you are ignoring everything we've done so far. Not a very smart way to motivate us to help any further.^^
Exactly, Germany is playing safe as they secretly dealing & collaborating with Russia at the same time being a member of European Union & NATO that should be protecting the interest of European Countries that is threatened by this Russia's action.. And if ever Russia totally Occupy Ukraine they will still benefit more from Russia as they don't act more like other European Countries that act more..
@@rudenkoalexander7574 cant wait for zelensky' fakes about germany aswell lul
@@fawkesmorque Germany: "Sure, Russia is beastly, but we like our sausages well-browned over a gas fire, and we like to drive on the highway at 240 km/h. So we will do all we can to help Ukraine, but it has to be extremely easy, extremely safe, and not annoying to Russia. Oh, and Ukraine has to say publicly that we are the grandest people ever."
I agree with his closing statement!
Well if it is a misunderstanding at least now that it has been clarified, they can have a web meeting at least.
Germany voted to keep Ukraine out of NATO. Many Ukrainians feel that Ukraine not being part of nato gave Putin license to invade. Germany has lost face in its initial responses to Ukraine wanting to be part of NATO.
That was the wisest decision. We would have had WW3 sooner