Ever clean a room and while cleaning you make things worse? Things will get cleaned up. We are in alpha still. Things will always get better and worse until game comes out.
my problem with component HP is they are basically creating a "best in slot" scenario. I feel like they need to make trade-offs for higher HP but reduced efficiency of the component, otherwise ships will just rock the highest value component without a second thought. I feel some components shouldnt compatible (maybe make military grade ones non compatible for civilian grade ships) OR if they do, they take a penalty. CIG really need to get this under wraps and start fleshing it out
@@infinitespace239 Well that doesn't seem right to me. Apart from the fact that 324 HP is extremely low, I don't think you should be taken out if only the QD component is disabled...
@@Jarvice to me too, but now I can tank a lot more damage than before. I was thinking to melt the ship and than found out this and completely different ship. I guess nothing in SC makes sense.
Avenger as well… also NPC ships are way too spongy. I was able to take out 4-6 ships before my ammunition ran low. I can barely take out 2-3 now in .23.
I’ve had weapons and QD just not work after a fight. Bed logged and came back after a day. Soooo, Yes, it looks like any components can be disabled/destroyed. Or it’s just an amazing glitch/feature.
I switched from Deadbolts to Tarantulas... Less overall dps but they fire about 4-5 times the shots before overheat whereas the Deadbolts pretty much start overheating after 3-4 shots. After testing I think you get a much higher sustained dps over time than with the Deadbolts which you are constantly waiting for cool downs.
@@Nonsense-hg6mo DPS doesn't matter when your guns are too hot to fire a good bit of time. Tarantulas put out more consistent damage as they are not overheating constantly. Over time this makes for more DPS because you are getting more shots on target and your cool downs are much much less of your overall time on target. Deadbolts do massive damage for about 5 shots then go to shit because that is all you get before overheat. Deadbolts are the garbage here.
@@Brenelael that's bullshit though. Deadbolts take 1.5 seconds to completely cool down. They have the same fire rate the tarantulas do but do triple the damage per shot. You're just wrong guy. Deadbolt sustained DPS is literally double the tarantulas. That's a fact. Whatever testing you did you fucked it up.
@@Nonsense-hg6mo They do not have the same fire rate... That alone tells me you don't have a clue... DPS is raw damage of the weapon over one second. DPS calculations do not take into account cool down times. So during the course of an entire fight while you are having to stop for 1.5 seconds 10-15 times with Deadbolts I'm only down maybe 3-4 times for 1.5 seconds. That's 15-22 seconds you are putting out 0 DPS while I'm only down for maybe 3-6 seconds with Tarantulas. This is why over the course of an entire fight I'm going to out DPS you. I'm talking minutes of continuous damage output where you are talking about 1 freaking second of damage output. Oh and the damage output of Deadbolts is nowhere near triple that of Tarantulas. At size 3 a Tarantula does 506 DPS where a Deadbolt 3 does 843 DPS. Also the fire rate of Tarantulas is 200 and Deadbolts are 100... Maybe you should get a clue before you wade into a discussion.
@@Brenelael "Oh and the damage output of Deadbolts is nowhere near double that of Tarantulas" Its triple. 500 vs 1500 damage per shot What are you talking about? You are fucking hopeless and exaggerating the deadbolt downtime greatly. If you are going through 10-15 rounds of deadbolt shots to kill anything you are doing something incredibly wrong. Like missing 1/3 your shots.
Same with me. Thought my MkII was busted or I suck cause I was shutting down so fast. I saw ded leader melted his because he didn't know about this until too late.
Grade A and Military should always have more health to survive combat. Granted all these health stats are temporary, but they are a mess and all should be higher across the board.
just like all military and governments, they buy from the lowest bidders on all things. so the military components cost more but would not use the best materials to manufacture them, so they have less health. civilian and stealth are optional and you can bet ships with them pay for them when they buy the ship. i am curious like others how you managed to figure out it was the quantum drive causing you death and how they were damaging it instead of the hull health
I noticed that my F7A gets easily soft death. Than someone said in comments that weapons have HP now. So I figured maybe it same with components, Google it and yeah 100 results about it. o7
VK-00 having fewer hp is probably a flaw, because if you look at Siren below, military grad B (almost as fast as the VK-00), has 1150. You also see that the Beacon, grade C military, has 324 hp. That seems like an error to me. They're the only ones with that low hp. It can also make sense that grade A components have fewer hp, as they may be more experimental and prone to malfunctions (in the long run that is, currently they just destroy you, which is not the intent of the final designs I'd wager). But yeah, avoid VKs and Beacons for now, that much is clear.
For some reason its's the stock items on a number of ships like Arrow, Gladius, various Hornets, Scorpius etc. Feels like a bad code merge to me. Edit: found the issue council report, STARC-115266
Lol hp component are herr since a while now. Always has been. On buccaneers i can’t count how many time my shield generator were one shot from a missile proximity hit
Straight asspull. This youtuber is absolutely clueless. Go through their videos, always just dead ass wrong, cant fly to save his life, just all around clueless of the game and its mechanics but wants to be a content creator. Star citizen has the lowest quality content creators of any game i have ever played.
Several months? Try several years. Components and weapons have had HP for years -- i n fact there used to be way more variety in HP. They mostly have same HP now.
Cool video , but for the record , you'r playing the Hornet MK2 F7A , which is the MOST BROKEN fighter in this game .You simply cannot compete with a regular gladius . Even if you upgrade your components in a gladius , you cannot take the ludicrous amount of fire power of the F7A . Spent 180 bucks and you will be a top tier pilots . What a broken pay to win meta ....sadly
its as broken as every other newly released ship. they intentionally make it overpowered to push sales. then when the next ship comes out tada the old one gets nerfed and the new one is overpowered. been this pattern for years.
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All stats from CIG are just a Mess...
i wish we had stats from CIG to BE a mess, but we dont even get that
Ever clean a room and while cleaning you make things worse? Things will get cleaned up. We are in alpha still. Things will always get better and worse until game comes out.
my problem with component HP is they are basically creating a "best in slot" scenario. I feel like they need to make trade-offs for higher HP but reduced efficiency of the component, otherwise ships will just rock the highest value component without a second thought.
I feel some components shouldnt compatible (maybe make military grade ones non compatible for civilian grade ships) OR if they do, they take a penalty. CIG really need to get this under wraps and start fleshing it out
Agree, that will probably come into a place when game is closer to release.
Wow! Thank you my man for sheading light on this!
How come you get destroyed easier if your QD is destroyed? A disabled QD shouldn't really have effect on a fight unless you're trying to run away.
Don't, know, ship would just soft death.
@@infinitespace239 Well that doesn't seem right to me. Apart from the fact that 324 HP is extremely low, I don't think you should be taken out if only the QD component is disabled...
@@Jarvice to me too, but now I can tank a lot more damage than before. I was thinking to melt the ship and than found out this and completely different ship. I guess nothing in SC makes sense.
you dont... or you shouldnt
Inferno is prone to getting its QD shot out, happened to both me and my friend, you dont explode, youre just stuck
Avenger as well… also NPC ships are way too spongy. I was able to take out 4-6 ships before my ammunition ran low. I can barely take out 2-3 now in .23.
ah yes the illusive man ending music. chefs kiss
Yeah love it. o7
what are your gaming PC specs?
Rtx 3090 ryzen 5800x 32 GB RAM
@@infinitespace239 thanks
o7
Looks like Grade C Military items (excluding the Banu Sukaron). I would expect that to all change in the soon coming 3.23.1a update.
I’ve had weapons and QD just not work after a fight. Bed logged and came back after a day. Soooo, Yes, it looks like any components can be disabled/destroyed.
Or it’s just an amazing glitch/feature.
I switched from Deadbolts to Tarantulas... Less overall dps but they fire about 4-5 times the shots before overheat whereas the Deadbolts pretty much start overheating after 3-4 shots. After testing I think you get a much higher sustained dps over time than with the Deadbolts which you are constantly waiting for cool downs.
Tarantulas are pretty garbage. They are also half the sustained DPS of deadbolts, definitely not more. What on earth are you talking about.
@@Nonsense-hg6mo DPS doesn't matter when your guns are too hot to fire a good bit of time. Tarantulas put out more consistent damage as they are not overheating constantly. Over time this makes for more DPS because you are getting more shots on target and your cool downs are much much less of your overall time on target. Deadbolts do massive damage for about 5 shots then go to shit because that is all you get before overheat. Deadbolts are the garbage here.
@@Brenelael that's bullshit though. Deadbolts take 1.5 seconds to completely cool down. They have the same fire rate the tarantulas do but do triple the damage per shot.
You're just wrong guy. Deadbolt sustained DPS is literally double the tarantulas. That's a fact. Whatever testing you did you fucked it up.
@@Nonsense-hg6mo They do not have the same fire rate... That alone tells me you don't have a clue... DPS is raw damage of the weapon over one second. DPS calculations do not take into account cool down times. So during the course of an entire fight while you are having to stop for 1.5 seconds 10-15 times with Deadbolts I'm only down maybe 3-4 times for 1.5 seconds. That's 15-22 seconds you are putting out 0 DPS while I'm only down for maybe 3-6 seconds with Tarantulas. This is why over the course of an entire fight I'm going to out DPS you. I'm talking minutes of continuous damage output where you are talking about 1 freaking second of damage output.
Oh and the damage output of Deadbolts is nowhere near triple that of Tarantulas. At size 3 a Tarantula does 506 DPS where a Deadbolt 3 does 843 DPS. Also the fire rate of Tarantulas is 200 and Deadbolts are 100... Maybe you should get a clue before you wade into a discussion.
@@Brenelael "Oh and the damage output of Deadbolts is nowhere near double that of Tarantulas"
Its triple. 500 vs 1500 damage per shot What are you talking about?
You are fucking hopeless and exaggerating the deadbolt downtime greatly. If you are going through 10-15 rounds of deadbolt shots to kill anything you are doing something incredibly wrong. Like missing 1/3 your shots.
Same with me. Thought my MkII was busted or I suck cause I was shutting down so fast. I saw ded leader melted his because he didn't know about this until too late.
Grade A and Military should always have more health to survive combat.
Granted all these health stats are temporary, but they are a mess and all should be higher across the board.
are the F7A's turrets still made of paper? Last time I checked they were only 100 hp
yes they are still bugged and have 100 hp only
so all components, like coolers, work now?
All components have HP, if it is lower you will soft death earlier. o7
just like all military and governments, they buy from the lowest bidders on all things. so the military components cost more but would not use the best materials to manufacture them, so they have less health. civilian and stealth are optional and you can bet ships with them pay for them when they buy the ship. i am curious like others how you managed to figure out it was the quantum drive causing you death and how they were damaging it instead of the hull health
I noticed that my F7A gets easily soft death. Than someone said in comments that weapons have HP now. So I figured maybe it same with components, Google it and yeah 100 results about it. o7
VK-00 having fewer hp is probably a flaw, because if you look at Siren below, military grad B (almost as fast as the VK-00), has 1150. You also see that the Beacon, grade C military, has 324 hp. That seems like an error to me. They're the only ones with that low hp.
It can also make sense that grade A components have fewer hp, as they may be more experimental and prone to malfunctions (in the long run that is, currently they just destroy you, which is not the intent of the final designs I'd wager). But yeah, avoid VKs and Beacons for now, that much is clear.
The Bracer coolers have the same issue with low HP. They have 324 while ALL the others have 1500. But Bracers are the most common...
For some reason its's the stock items on a number of ships like Arrow, Gladius, various Hornets, Scorpius etc.
Feels like a bad code merge to me.
Edit: found the issue council report, STARC-115266
never use military qt anyway, fast but very short range
seems that F7AMK2 turret is much lower hp than F7A MK1 turret...
Lol hp component are herr since a while now. Always has been. On buccaneers i can’t count how many time my shield generator were one shot from a missile proximity hit
Yes, but they all had same HP since 3.23 they are with different HP. o7
@@infinitespace239 no they did not. Had a look in 3.21 and 3.22 building my pvp fighters and ert trolls, and they hadn’t
@@thomasbouvier3203 Could be I was not aware of that before.
Be nice if AI had the same components. I have had AI that is completely red and still fighting me like they are fresh out of the box.
Yeah, sadly.
my guy with the all ballistics again 😭😭
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where are you getting this from... this sounds like such a big piece of nonsense to me =) why would you blow up if your qd component was killed?!?!
Ask CIG not me sorry, components HP is a thing now sadly.
Straight asspull. This youtuber is absolutely clueless. Go through their videos, always just dead ass wrong, cant fly to save his life, just all around clueless of the game and its mechanics but wants to be a content creator.
Star citizen has the lowest quality content creators of any game i have ever played.
I melt my MK2 with token. I hate dog fight!
I like PVE, not PVP,
I cant even log into the game totally broken
Good so you figured something out that has already been a thing for several months...
Lol 😂 better now then never. Just because you know it, don't mean everyone knows it.
o7
Several months? Try several years. Components and weapons have had HP for years -- i n fact there used to be way more variety in HP. They mostly have same HP now.
What a stupid balancing CIG made.
Cool video , but for the record , you'r playing the Hornet MK2 F7A , which is the MOST BROKEN fighter in this game .You simply cannot compete with a regular gladius .
Even if you upgrade your components in a gladius , you cannot take the ludicrous amount of fire power of the F7A .
Spent 180 bucks and you will be a top tier pilots .
What a broken pay to win meta ....sadly
its as broken as every other newly released ship. they intentionally make it overpowered to push sales. then when the next ship comes out tada the old one gets nerfed and the new one is overpowered. been this pattern for years.
Naaah, I just bought it because I like it. Don't care about meta, not paying PVP. o7