There are tons of different types of Muay Thai with particular teachers and champions of the style. I figure you probably already know, but if you don’t sylvie von itu does a ton of coverage of different styles, she herself is a Muay Khao fighter meaning she makes the knees in clinch her win condition. The style really dictates the stance and footwork.
@shinobiarg1342 i was not referring to that. Look at his stance, his use of push kicks, round house kicks to the body, + clinch throws. Cutting distance into elbow range, etc. It was pure MT.
Because when karate does full contact, it is basically just muay thai. Kyokushin looks so much like or the same as muay thai for this reason. Muay thai has big influences on many stand up styles today, because its been proven to work. Nothing flashy or fancy that dont work.
the MMA guy at the end was really worn out, you can see he forgot his original stance, he forgot the kicks as already said, and was throwing random haymakers instead of punches with good technique. I'm not mocking him, it must be though I get it, but he really was exhausted and you could see that.
Anyone who says karate doesn’t work in a real fight doesn’t know what they’re talking about…. Not all karate schools are the same equally. It’s all about the right school and instructor... and yes, I know that these two guys don’t necessarily come from karate background. But the point still stands.
Style counts too. Kyokushin karate is legit very recognized cause they fight for real to knock out not points. Kudo is great and complete but that is more to mma.
@@flowrepins6663Kudo Karate reminds Okinawa Karate a lot because Okinawa Karate focus in Grappling too totally different of Modern Karate that are a limited striking sport.
@@flowrepins6663people look at Shotokan Karate Tournaments and think Karate are only a limited point sport but they are soo wrong look Wado-Ryu, Gojo Ryu, Ashihara Kaikan, Kyokushin and Seidokaikan Karate are styles very effetive and strong.
Love seeing the Muay Thai guys fighting in Karate Combat, fantastic to see elbows and knees allowed. When are they going to add Lethwei headbutts?? Just kidding.
The word “Muay” basically means ‘to fight’ in Thai. The concept of Muay can be found throughout the region. People spar as a game and practice Muay regularly, but never associate it with sports. As there’s no sportsmanship when you tryna survive in the battlefield. The term “Muay Thai” was coined later when the concept of westerners’ boxing and modern sports as a whole was introduced in Thailand, and later got integrated into local Muay - by gave it clear sets of rules, introduced boxing gloves, standard ring, outlawed head butting, making the art of 9 limbs, navaavuth, became 8 (Tho it’s still referred to as navaavuth in Thailand; nava-nine avuth-weapon), and many other stuff got changed. So, now there are distinct line between Muay Faraang, Muay Thai, and Muay Boran (boraan-authentic) which still teach various headbutt moves, limb twisting, bone breaker, head stomping, prisoner controlling and stuff, and are often taught in MT classes as a “fun fact” from time to time. You can ask a Muay boran place more about it if you still interested in practicing some headbutting techniques.
This is awesome. I LOVE seeing fights that include knees and elbows. It adds that extra fight spice. It really surprises me to see white pants guy fighting from such a flat footed stance. Great fight from both guys. Thanks jerry. This is really good stuff.
So basically this is low budget muay thai show where they invite no named muay Thai armatures to train karate fighters? wtf?. You will never beat muay thai guy in stand up game with elbows and knees. These guys spend 100% practising elbows and knees, while karate spends 50% or more doing kata and forms. Even kyokushin still does some kata and forms just to be karate, and not be fully muay thai.
Make it almost full karate by allowing throwing and joint locks and pins (no submissions, because that would make it more like Japanese jujitsu). Almost, because you don’t allow finger breaking, eye poking, or other things that unsportsmanlike. Obviously, this is a sport, not a duel for survival.
@@MuaythaikickboxingMMA0 yeah,most only know them from Muay Thai,so not a lot of options. That what is was complaining about. TCMA and FMA have them too, but are not as common or popular to practice enough to influence. Elbows by themselves are pretty much a MT specialty,also because they are the only ones open about using them.
What's the difference between this and a regular muay thai match? Might aswell be shoot boxing rules, which has throws and standing submissions/locks with strikes to a downed opponent. Real karate was that, along with elbows and knees anyway
I find it funny that a practitioner of Shotokan Karate named Chinzo Machida a much job at handling a Muay Thai opponent that the guys from Kyokushin Karate and Karate Combat.
@@DouglasBuenoGomes Yeah, he has Sumo and Jujitsu elements like what their Okinawan predecessors did alongside Quan Fa before the creation and spread of sport Kumite.
There’s levels & Iranian guy was striking levels below. The weight difference looks huge to…..I can see an old school K1 style limit to the amount of Thais that can enter.
Why do mma guys go fight in karate kombat instead of mma? Money? The mma isnt prepared to go full rounds on the feet. Has any mma guy successfully cross over to full standup fighting? Its hard for full stand up guys to do mma as well. Strong wrestlers tend to have an advantage in mma.
IDK. This kinda defeat the point of calling it karate combat when you have guys using Muay Thai in it. I would think they would keep with the arts that were influenced by Okinawa and Japan.
Muy thai clinch stops this guy's attempts to take him down.. mma guy isn't as impressive a fighter since he can't do this..maybe ..haven't seen any if him on the ground..
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It's just a brand name, it's not karate anymore
There are tons of different types of Muay Thai with particular teachers and champions of the style. I figure you probably already know, but if you don’t sylvie von itu does a ton of coverage of different styles, she herself is a Muay Khao fighter meaning she makes the knees in clinch her win condition. The style really dictates the stance and footwork.
@ You have high hopes for westerner. If you want to see styles clashing, I prefer One Championship.
the dude was basically doing muay Thai in karate pants
@@mikitadou
Karate (in both shotokan and kyokushin kumite rules) admits hip throws and punching your oponent in the floor
@shinobiarg1342 i was not referring to that. Look at his stance, his use of push kicks, round house kicks to the body, + clinch throws. Cutting distance into elbow range, etc. It was pure MT.
Because when karate does full contact, it is basically just muay thai. Kyokushin looks so much like or the same as muay thai for this reason. Muay thai has big influences on many stand up styles today, because its been proven to work. Nothing flashy or fancy that dont work.
This is straight up muay thai in a nutshell
Kyokushin is pretty much karate version of muay thai.
Basically shows that Muay Thai is the goated striking style
pinpetch wasn't applying any karate at all
I find cool seeing karatekas doing full contact sparring, it allows us to see all the different techniques that karate has.
@@ZainAhmad-jl4vt It's called karate combat but you'll not see many karatekas really
karate combat had karatekas at first but now Its full of kickboxers
the MMA guy at the end was really worn out, you can see he forgot his original stance, he forgot the kicks as already said, and was throwing random haymakers instead of punches with good technique. I'm not mocking him, it must be though I get it, but he really was exhausted and you could see that.
Got kicked and elbowed by nak muay really drains you a lot. You dont know until you get one by one.
Anyone who says karate doesn’t work in a real fight doesn’t know what they’re talking about…. Not all karate schools are the same equally. It’s all about the right school and instructor... and yes, I know that these two guys don’t necessarily come from karate background. But the point still stands.
Style counts too. Kyokushin karate is legit very recognized cause they fight for real to knock out not points. Kudo is great and complete but that is more to mma.
@@flowrepins6663Kudo Karate reminds Okinawa Karate a lot because Okinawa Karate focus in Grappling too totally different of Modern Karate that are a limited striking sport.
@@flowrepins6663Kyokushin saved me a lot in street in the Past, I train Judo too but used more Kyokushin than Judo in street.
@@flowrepins6663people look at Shotokan Karate Tournaments and think Karate are only a limited point sport but they are soo wrong look Wado-Ryu, Gojo Ryu, Ashihara Kaikan, Kyokushin and Seidokaikan Karate are styles very effetive and strong.
Tae Kwon do is the worst. Basically a financial con job mixed with a mediocre dance class. Zero practical skills.
Love seeing the Muay Thai guys fighting in Karate Combat, fantastic to see elbows and knees allowed. When are they going to add Lethwei headbutts?? Just kidding.
The word “Muay” basically means ‘to fight’ in Thai. The concept of Muay can be found throughout the region. People spar as a game and practice Muay regularly, but never associate it with sports. As there’s no sportsmanship when you tryna survive in the battlefield.
The term “Muay Thai” was coined later when the concept of westerners’ boxing and modern sports as a whole was introduced in Thailand, and later got integrated into local Muay - by gave it clear sets of rules, introduced boxing gloves, standard ring, outlawed head butting, making the art of 9 limbs, navaavuth, became 8 (Tho it’s still referred to as navaavuth in Thailand; nava-nine avuth-weapon), and many other stuff got changed.
So, now there are distinct line between Muay Faraang, Muay Thai, and Muay Boran (boraan-authentic) which still teach various headbutt moves, limb twisting, bone breaker, head stomping, prisoner controlling and stuff, and are often taught in MT classes as a “fun fact” from time to time. You can ask a Muay boran place more about it if you still interested in practicing some headbutting techniques.
This is awesome. I LOVE seeing fights that include knees and elbows. It adds that extra fight spice.
It really surprises me to see white pants guy fighting from such a flat footed stance. Great fight from both guys.
Thanks jerry. This is really good stuff.
love your commentary, my favorite to listen to
I wanna see some JKA fighters in Karate Combat in their PURE style. no mixups with kickboxing. a pure JKA.
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Cool dude,
Didn't know you play chess as well.
Learning the French defense right now
@FightCommentary I'll check that out, just getting back into chess the past few months playing bots mostly.
Dang the guy in white pants did that move from when Jake Mace was in that Master Ken video.
YES! I just remembered that! Great video!
DEWD! You give the best commentaries since Joe Rogan, I can tell you can fight. You should audition for Rokas' self defence championship.
MauyTai guy using some Mauy Boran. Wider stance. There is a neck chop he is not allowed to use, here.
He destroyed his psyche after those elbows
Let's match up some great karatekas with some of these well known Thai fighters! Let's go!!!
So basically this is low budget muay thai show where they invite no named muay Thai armatures to train karate fighters? wtf?. You will never beat muay thai guy in stand up game with elbows and knees. These guys spend 100% practising elbows and knees, while karate spends 50% or more doing kata and forms. Even kyokushin still does some kata and forms just to be karate, and not be fully muay thai.
Interesting, interesting 👏👏👏👏
"MMA guy and Karate Guy, what else am I posed to call em?" Fighters names literally on screen LOL
that was badass
Make it almost full karate by allowing throwing and joint locks and pins (no submissions, because that would make it more like Japanese jujitsu). Almost, because you don’t allow finger breaking, eye poking, or other things that unsportsmanlike. Obviously, this is a sport, not a duel for survival.
According to Jesse Enkamp Karate has everything. Just do UFC 1 rules
Good call Jerry 👉🏆👈 ...
A muay thai guy is called a " Nak Muay" A muay thai woman is a " Muay Yin" pronounced (yeen)
I like to see more focus on elbows,it seems to be the most underdeveloped striking element,mostly because few allow it.
you don't watch Muay thai then
Most can allow it but it just turns into muay thai. Its just that. Not every striking style wants to look too muay thai than it already is.
@@MuaythaikickboxingMMA0 yeah,most only know them from Muay Thai,so not a lot of options. That what is was complaining about. TCMA and FMA have them too, but are not as common or popular to practice enough to influence. Elbows by themselves are pretty much a MT specialty,also because they are the only ones open about using them.
Muay Thai rebranded. I approve
What was the weight difference?
Call them "Thai Fighters" ❤
TIE Fighter.
No.
1:39 umm, their names? it's on the screen at all times.
You should probably transition into doing Chess Boxing….
What's the difference between this and a regular muay thai match? Might aswell be shoot boxing rules, which has throws and standing submissions/locks with strikes to a downed opponent. Real karate was that, along with elbows and knees anyway
I find it funny that a practitioner of Shotokan Karate named Chinzo Machida a much job at handling a Muay Thai opponent that the guys from Kyokushin Karate and Karate Combat.
Machida Karate are Shotokan but a Modern Shotokan with focus in MMA they use skills of other styles too.
@@DouglasBuenoGomes Yeah, he has Sumo and Jujitsu elements like what their Okinawan predecessors did alongside Quan Fa before the creation and spread of sport Kumite.
There were maybe like three actual Karatekas on this card. Don’t expect to see many more at kc in the future lol
That MMA guy was nothing but a punching bag.
muay thai is brutal!
So Muay Thai? 😂
There’s levels & Iranian guy was striking levels below. The weight difference looks huge to…..I can see an old school K1 style limit to the amount of Thais that can enter.
elbows and knees have been a thing for months
😮😮😮😮
What happened to the color of the video at 4:08?
Bloody spreading
RUclips doesn't like blood thus the monochrome color.
it’s cause of the blood
blood censorship
MMA vs MT in KT combat 🤔 interesting
Freee kicks😂😂😂😂
Yeah Muay Thai will always dominate any striking style when all eight limbs areallowed.
Lethwei enters the chat 🤪🤪
@@FightCommentary Lethwei always loses to muay thai lmfao. Any lethwei champs in K1? ONE? Nope lol!
Only if they allow full gi
Muay thai guy looks agile in his feet while the other guy looks like he over eat too often
At first I thought you were wearing a little yellow hat
I do have a Luffy hat. So i’ll wear that again soon!
You a chess guy?
Today no but most days yes.
karate Combat are young sport , muay thai people fight when they are kid ago.
So it’s not karate anymore? Just a regular fighting promotion.
Yeah pretty lame imo
It was initially but most fighters were just doing muay thai and kickboxing. EVe karata doing some clappy kickboxing and muay thai.
1:37 just say white or black or red or blue
@@juupaasto7546 I find that it’s helpful to understand what background the fighter comes from
Too funny a karate tournament, that don’t have karate fighter. One mma guy vs a muay Thai fighter. 😂
Muay Thai guys are called Nak Muay
Why karate have elbow and knee but the rules just start use it
Why do mma guys go fight in karate kombat instead of mma? Money? The mma isnt prepared to go full rounds on the feet. Has any mma guy successfully cross over to full standup fighting? Its hard for full stand up guys to do mma as well. Strong wrestlers tend to have an advantage in mma.
Karate combat is no longer about karate. They will eventually become just another kickboxing organization, if they aren’t already.
That’s a kyokushin guy if I’m correct. Either way, karate got put in a pack
It isnt white pants is from a Thai/MMA background
U CALL THEM THERE NAME U FOOL
the mi tai guy is awsome but both of them are good
First like
I wish there was a Sanda equivalent,but without kicks.
IDK. This kinda defeat the point of calling it karate combat when you have guys using Muay Thai in it. I would think they would keep with the arts that were influenced by Okinawa and Japan.
Muy thai clinch stops this guy's attempts to take him down.. mma guy isn't as impressive a fighter since he can't do this..maybe ..haven't seen any if him on the ground..
FIRST
Don’t like the rules tbh
Terrible kicking
they need shorts - pants too uncomfortable