I Thought This Was A Chibson... But It's Complicated | Guitar Hunting w/ Trogly

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  • Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
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  • @Trog
    @Trog  2 года назад +11

    That first guitar certainly has a story behind it...
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    • @jonlennon3348
      @jonlennon3348 2 года назад

      It looks like he either rolled the finish on or dipped in a bucket with varnish and dirt. I think it is a fake.

  • @Trashslayer76
    @Trashslayer76 2 года назад +25

    I saw that on Ebay too. I was thinking "From what I've learned from Trogly, that can't be real"🤣

  • @stereoroid
    @stereoroid 2 года назад +13

    “Select by EMG” is to EMG as Squier is to Fender, basically. Licensed copies, passive as others said.

  • @rondobondo6600
    @rondobondo6600 2 года назад +14

    Wallmart

  • @randyheath8566
    @randyheath8566 2 года назад +10

    Austin is in His House 🏠 of AWESOME Beautiful Guitars 🎸 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸

  • @haywoodjablowme699
    @haywoodjablowme699 2 года назад +11

    The tailpiece is in the wrong spot on that Blood Orange. Gibson tailpiece are above the nearest volume knob when held upright. That's a fake.

    • @silverXnoise
      @silverXnoise 2 года назад +2

      Good spot. It’s clear just from comparing it to the other LPs in this video. I also thought the finish looked like it was done way too thick by someone who doesn’t know how to fill in the grain and sand properly. Pitted, uneven, just awful.

    • @OkFixer
      @OkFixer 2 года назад +1

      yes, huge tell

  • @scootsmctoots8862
    @scootsmctoots8862 2 года назад +8

    I love the lawsuit guitar stuff. You should take a dive into it because its a fun historical look into what was most peoples first guitars.

  • @brianfurry9542
    @brianfurry9542 2 года назад +15

    I loved the EBO, so worn, dirty, over modded but yet very cool. I see potential for that one!! Thank you Trog!!

    • @baorozzo
      @baorozzo 2 года назад

      I can’t find that on ebay, even on the sold one…

  • @sydrose13
    @sydrose13 2 года назад +15

    Looks like the Gibson fit and finish quality us guys who grew up in the 80s know all about

    • @misterghee1
      @misterghee1 2 года назад +1

      Haha same as Dutch Egmond (Martin company) you knew from 100 meters 1every hunderd where great even Jammn it👍😊👍

  • @Greg-vd5om
    @Greg-vd5om 2 года назад +8

    Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!

  • @lexrichardson7820
    @lexrichardson7820 2 года назад +12

    Heck yeah-! Troglodytes

  • @cyrilchi6452
    @cyrilchi6452 2 года назад +6

    Hello

  • @rondobondo6600
    @rondobondo6600 2 года назад +8

    Oah ya

  • @mike02614
    @mike02614 2 года назад +7

    🤔

  • @kirkwahmmett1666
    @kirkwahmmett1666 2 года назад +3

    It's funny I was in the middle of the Gibson Icons Tonny Iommi interview when you uploaded. Time for some Gibson content in the middle of my Gibson content.

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc 2 года назад +3

    There’s an Orville EB-3 from the 1990s on Reverb, it’s got the traditional varitone setup, unlike the “SG Bass” they’ve been selling now, and it’s short scale (Unlike the last Epiphone EB-3 which was full 34” scale and just made the neck dive worse.)

  • @Jester-Riddle
    @Jester-Riddle 2 года назад +1

    Loved the old roadworn EBO ...
    (I have a weakness for it only as my first Bass was a fair EBO copy ... not because of it's tonal characteristics ! Mind you, it would be fascinating to hear the tonal range from the additional pickups ...).

  • @princequestly2218
    @princequestly2218 2 года назад +3

    That Ventura MIJ was awesome for 695 that a sweet guitar and a great player. I’ve got a couple 70s MIJ ibanez Gibson law suit era and they are phenomenal guitars. The craftsmanship on MIJ stuff in that era is some of best.

    • @luminousbrilliance1711
      @luminousbrilliance1711 2 года назад +1

      yeah I was going to say to Trogly-chances are that's a Matsumoku MIJ Ventura-I have one of those-and they are epic. They can be so rare that even Trogly has never heard of them. They shred. Mine's a a 1971 Black Beauty. 🙂

  • @dw7704
    @dw7704 2 года назад +1

    My Les Paul copy has the open book headstock & pancake body
    Different brand
    Would have liked to have seen a picture of the neck plate

  • @mophead7759
    @mophead7759 2 года назад +1

    trogly’s daily uploads bring me much joy and anticipation. thx for the great content!!

  • @hkguitar1984
    @hkguitar1984 2 года назад +9

    #10 Wooo WHooo

    • @sgt.grinch3299
      @sgt.grinch3299 2 года назад +2

      Top 10. Great job brother.

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 2 года назад

      @@sgt.grinch3299 I try!
      I'm gonna lose my mind, 9:49, Trapezoid, NOT Parallelograms.................sigh

  • @ConvexSpade
    @ConvexSpade 2 года назад +2

    9:40 That's trapezoid, not parallelogram.

  • @rondobondo6600
    @rondobondo6600 2 года назад +10

    Walllmart third place

    • @sgt.grinch3299
      @sgt.grinch3299 2 года назад +1

      Congratulations on making the podium today. Enjoy your Bronze Medal for today.

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 2 года назад +1

      Very Close

  • @johndelgadillo2815
    @johndelgadillo2815 2 года назад

    Thise are select by emg which are passive emgs which sound great in my experience

  • @matthewsabin1841
    @matthewsabin1841 2 года назад +1

    it could be an employee in Kalamazoo using up parts before losing his job. being from the Kalamazoo area I've heard stories of guys doing that

  • @caseysmith544
    @caseysmith544 2 года назад

    Ventura still has a model of Guitar of their own under the Kaman or now Ovation in 1983 with a single Ventura model Ovation at least in the 2000's. Just looked that up.

  • @MattSmithMe
    @MattSmithMe 2 года назад

    Gibson does have a database. I own an ‘81 LP Standard, and a ‘77 Flying V, and I have spoken to them more than once about these guitars. They were able to identify them.

  • @mikejackson6751
    @mikejackson6751 2 года назад

    Love your show keep the content coming

  • @nolarocks
    @nolarocks 2 года назад +1

    The volume knobs on that Gibson are the first tell-tale sign, no?

    • @lazvt8469
      @lazvt8469 2 года назад

      yep, the neck volume know is an inch too far north...close to the top of the guitar.

  • @myoptik3x103
    @myoptik3x103 2 года назад +2

    Ngl, if I could know the back story behind that SG Franken-bass I would totally buy it. I think it would be better marketing to just list it at a higher price and claim that the shipping is free though.

  • @dalekoster9955
    @dalekoster9955 2 года назад

    I owned an Ibanez Les Paul Custom in tobacco sunburst with a set neck in 1980. IMO it was 98% as good as my 78 Gibson LP custom with the same finish. Wish I had kept it as set-neck Ibanez’s are hard to find these days. Would love another one 40+ years later. The Super 80 pickups were killer.

  • @RussBMCSGT
    @RussBMCSGT 2 года назад

    Yeah so Triumph Motorcycles & Gibson Custom Shop worked together to make a 1959 Les Paul Standard & it’s pretty cool looking, maybe try & get a hold of one to review & demo?

  • @monmixer
    @monmixer 2 года назад

    Obvious to see where Hamer got the Sunburst and Special design, that Les Paul double cut.

  • @MikeE-
    @MikeE- 2 года назад +5

    Man I really want to buy a dc special one day. That refin was nice. I liked the wine red custom too

    • @misterghee1
      @misterghee1 2 года назад

      The better the wine the better the..

  • @DavidHBurkart
    @DavidHBurkart 2 года назад

    Thanks for the ride!

  • @williamking576
    @williamking576 2 года назад +1

    Austin, the arrangement of the knobs in relation to the stoptail is incorrect. Gotta be a replica.

  • @Dan.Solo.Chicago
    @Dan.Solo.Chicago 2 года назад

    10:22 Using a water bottle as an improvised neck rest is actually pretty clever. Full or empty, as long as the cap is on tight it’s all good. Empty might be the safer option.

    • @honkytonkinson9787
      @honkytonkinson9787 2 года назад

      I use a shoe sometimes, or a pair of pants wrapped around a small book

  • @hannoverfist5628
    @hannoverfist5628 2 года назад +1

    That bastard EBO was up on eBay too…..high bid was like 770……but then it was put up for auction again right away…..missed the reserve I guess?

  • @thecanadianbassgearshow3332
    @thecanadianbassgearshow3332 2 года назад

    Would love to buy the EB0 but the seller does not ship to Canada ..

  • @cryptoesquire3168
    @cryptoesquire3168 2 года назад

    The listing has updated... '57 Classics pickups from 2011....

  • @69goldtop14
    @69goldtop14 2 года назад +1

    Whys the stop so far past the knobs

  • @kc0lif
    @kc0lif 2 года назад

    i like les paul custom and similar. i got a livewires les paul custom.

  • @bluesrockguitaristmikesall2708
    @bluesrockguitaristmikesall2708 2 года назад

    Trogly, get former governor of the State of Minnesota Jessee Ventura,to ride in a Pontiac Ventura driving down Ventura boulevard, listening to America playing "Ventura Highway" while strumming a Ventura Les Paul !

  • @Davidckennedymusic
    @Davidckennedymusic 2 года назад +1

    Heck yah

  • @PikkaBird
    @PikkaBird 2 года назад

    I think what sticks out to me on that "Custom" is that the binding is just way too wide, it looks like it's something like 1.5 times too wide and makes the top look ... "cramped", sort of.

  • @DDE_ADDICT
    @DDE_ADDICT 2 года назад

    the volume knob is to far forward of the tail piece

  • @fairguinevere666
    @fairguinevere666 2 года назад

    "Why did they sink the shaft of the pot through the knob" looks like a Big Boncc, as someone I know would put it. Just a good smack on a hard surface maybe? The chipping looks like blunt force.

  • @9372duffy
    @9372duffy 2 года назад

    Great video!

  • @alpeterson
    @alpeterson 2 года назад +4

    Those were EMG Select pickups, which are passive, and also sound like absolute rotten dog turds. If you don’t like EMG’s you’ll reeeeeeeeeally hate their cheap junky pickups.

    • @saltpeter7429
      @saltpeter7429 2 года назад +1

      I had EMG selects in an 80's Epiphone Spotlight I think it was called. It had a Steinberger trem and it was neck through. Really good guitar, buy yes, absolute Dog doo pickups.

  • @monmixer
    @monmixer 2 года назад

    That B string is almost touching the tuning peg for the high E

  • @zigzagrz
    @zigzagrz 2 года назад +1

    That questionable Gibby, due to the placement of the neck, is it still a 24.75" scale or is it now 25.5"?

  • @acoffeewithsatan
    @acoffeewithsatan 2 года назад +2

    Former Gibson CS employee? Judging by his craftsmanship, I guess someone was rightfully fired off the plant!

    • @misterghee1
      @misterghee1 2 года назад

      Hehehe eh shitty shops first lose good personnel hehehe👍🤣👍

    • @acoffeewithsatan
      @acoffeewithsatan 2 года назад +1

      @@misterghee1 yeah, sure! Judging by the headstock and the gap at the humbucker that could fit a 24 fret neck, they really missed out on the marketing opportunity of having Stevie Wonder as a master luthier!

    • @misterghee1
      @misterghee1 2 года назад

      @@acoffeewithsatan I'm sure his hands make a masterpiece anyway 😁

  • @hectormutton2542
    @hectormutton2542 2 года назад +7

    ✌️

  • @jonathanhudak2059
    @jonathanhudak2059 2 года назад

    What a fun episode to watch, lots of cool Les Paul's and IDK but that 82/83 Les Paul just seems like there's something fishy going on with that one, let the buyer beware!

  • @briansmythe3219
    @briansmythe3219 2 года назад

    wow Good Info There Trogladies Thanks or that , I like learing about these things , Take Kare

  • @haydenramos8629
    @haydenramos8629 Год назад +1

    I have a Jay Turser sg with an ebony finish. It has guitar fetish p90s in it. And it plays amazing. My dad has more guitar knowledge and he says that it almost beats my Jackson in a close game.

  • @Tensen01
    @Tensen01 2 года назад

    Man, I want that Special

  • @ELWOOD..
    @ELWOOD.. 2 года назад

    Jimmy Dean Hens Tooth!
    Mercy, Mercy!!!!

  • @lazvt8469
    @lazvt8469 2 года назад

    The knobs LEPT out...Waaaaay off.....especially the one closest to the stop bar....the neck volume.

  • @rickreynolds7255
    @rickreynolds7255 2 года назад

    Hey man that's funny - I was going to bid on that bass - I tried to get him to come down on the shipping - he says he doesn't ship ground because he's had complaints that it took too long to get there 😉

  • @straight8ight
    @straight8ight 2 года назад

    That's why we let you take the time to investigate these listings.

  • @michaelpacinus242
    @michaelpacinus242 2 года назад

    Trogly! Let me check out that THANG 😩

  • @danbremer7010
    @danbremer7010 2 года назад

    My daily dose of guitars.

  • @eaglewarrior8707
    @eaglewarrior8707 2 года назад +1

    I still don't get why people wanna own a old guitar that is stained in tobacco tar and some guys stinch.

  • @vmann-jd5yw
    @vmann-jd5yw 2 года назад

    Can you please start posting to Rumble as well?

  • @kevinberg84
    @kevinberg84 2 года назад

    I'm surprised you didn't mention Gibson's site has been down for over 24 hours!

  • @Masterfighterx
    @Masterfighterx 2 года назад

    Looks like an Epiphone headstock that got a makeover. Looks better but too cramped together, which is also why i hate Epiphone headstocks.

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 2 года назад +10

    Another first. #14. Wooo hooo! To quote RONDO BONDO

    • @rondobondo6600
      @rondobondo6600 2 года назад +6

      I knew you would win

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 2 года назад +5

      Congrats, Way to GO

    • @rondobondo6600
      @rondobondo6600 2 года назад +2

      You just won the fabulous Wallmart award for the very first comment wooohooo you are absolutely amazing 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪 🍪

    • @sgt.grinch3299
      @sgt.grinch3299 2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the best award on the net RONDO BONDO

    • @rondobondo6600
      @rondobondo6600 2 года назад +1

      Oah yeah wooohooo

  • @clarkbabin9799
    @clarkbabin9799 2 года назад

    You think maybe a Delorean and a reclusive Doctorate physics professor had something to do with that guitar? Oh look apparently the owner was one of those that used doritos chip picks to play. I'm with you on that LP. At $3500 I'd just as soon buy a new or used model that I know can be proven original Authentic. Lol That 78 3 pickup LP is gorgeous even with the little imperfections.

  • @chriswhite9218
    @chriswhite9218 2 года назад

    Watching made me thing of mine I have an 70's les Paul copy I think it had no name on headstock looks like humbuckers in it but are single coil!! I had to sand it because when I got it the paint work was damaged, it's a ply body, with really nice figuring on neck, (bolt on)I have no idea what it is can anyone help me?😁👍

    • @Riverdeepnwide
      @Riverdeepnwide 2 года назад +1

      Hi Chris, I had an El Degas bolt on white ply LP copy, gold plating, humbuckers. Pretty good. The guy I gave it to forty some years ago still plays it!
      If remembering correctly, I think I had heard that a manufacturer shipped the same model in batches to various companies and stores around the world who would then decal their own unique name ID on the guitars.

    • @chriswhite9218
      @chriswhite9218 2 года назад

      @@Riverdeepnwide I can't find any markings on it at all , it supposed to be a custom model, ( first fret inlay, binding on body neck and headstock)

  • @jaredcoderre3062
    @jaredcoderre3062 2 года назад

    Troggin!

  • @hadtodoit4391
    @hadtodoit4391 2 года назад

    Just giving you shit good show bro

  • @mikestevenson6745
    @mikestevenson6745 2 года назад

    It looks like an epiphone with an ebay laminate headstock.

  • @griffinsalerno
    @griffinsalerno 2 года назад

    That’s right folks… January zeroth, 1983

  • @skullstjohn
    @skullstjohn 2 года назад

    I just watched a video on Ed Roman. Are you familiar with him and his reputation and have you (unknowingly) purchased one of his fakes?

  • @bakman2411
    @bakman2411 2 года назад +7

    1

    • @sgt.grinch3299
      @sgt.grinch3299 2 года назад +3

      Well done. I’m pleased to present a Silver Medal for your efforts.

    • @hkguitar1984
      @hkguitar1984 2 года назад +1

      Congrats on the Silver Bakman24

    • @rondobondo6600
      @rondobondo6600 2 года назад +1

      Second place wooohooo 🍍

  • @TheQakman
    @TheQakman 2 года назад

    Looks like the tailpiece is too far back.

  • @joshuataft5541
    @joshuataft5541 2 года назад

    I want a black lp😥

  • @grantcindrich
    @grantcindrich 2 года назад

    If it’s a 50s Gibson you wouldn’t find Inverness green anyways

  • @imannonymous7707
    @imannonymous7707 2 года назад

    So whst are the finssl verdict yes legit or no ?

    • @themac3421
      @themac3421 2 года назад +1

      nope, "custom made"

  • @ammeltman1674
    @ammeltman1674 2 года назад

    yeah so i saw this listing and it bamboozled the crap outta me...

  • @jameshughes6049
    @jameshughes6049 2 года назад

    I wouldn't buy that Les Paul. Uh uh.

  • @Mary.Lou1978
    @Mary.Lou1978 2 года назад +2

    20th

  • @donttalktome4696
    @donttalktome4696 2 года назад

    That gibson logo looks like my 6 year old did it.

  • @larryburwell8550
    @larryburwell8550 2 года назад

    Micky mouse club guitar

  • @holstorrsceadus1990
    @holstorrsceadus1990 2 года назад +1

    So late.

  • @jonmaegdlin4278
    @jonmaegdlin4278 2 года назад +1

    Trapazoids.

  • @Steve.Cutler
    @Steve.Cutler Год назад

    I've seen chibsons that looked better.

  • @waynecribb4922
    @waynecribb4922 2 года назад

    Looks like a bunch of junk IMO. Still enjoyed the video. Keep 'em coming.

  • @earthstrong-43.72
    @earthstrong-43.72 2 года назад

    Worth 500 clams. That Les Paul, if real, has been butchered. The seller is high on crack.

  • @brayanlopes5222
    @brayanlopes5222 2 года назад

    But seriously though, where do people buy Chibsons? Is it safe? Are they minimally descent?

    • @zaccds
      @zaccds 2 года назад +1

      Most likely sites like aliexpress. From what I've heard they range from decent to absolute garbage. If you do buy one and import it make sure the headstock dosen't say Gibson or it might get seized by customs for being a counterfeit.

    • @jameshughes6049
      @jameshughes6049 2 года назад

      Chibsons are garbage. Technically illegal to import them to the U.S. but people do it.

    • @rodrossi9749
      @rodrossi9749 2 года назад +1

      @@zaccds you will find the most of the good ones are starting out at the Epiphone plant in China. I currently have 3 and I know for a fact that 2 of them were built on the side by employees.
      Both have fret nibs and all Epiphone parts. They have Epi stamped on the Pro- Bucker pickups and all the hardware. Full size CTS pots, and very nice wiring.
      Unfortunately the last 2 , I custom ordered were seized by US customs .
      I invested between 2 and 4 hundred in each and have had many experienced players say how great all 3 play.
      Since I never intend to sell them I have no problem owning them. Had I purchased the US versions of these it would easily have cost 10,000 dollars.
      All 3 from China with upgrades are $ 1500.
      I also have 7 US made Les Paul's each costing $ 3000 or more, so Gibson definitely got there money from me.
      PS: the seller I delt with is no longer there.

    • @brayanlopes5222
      @brayanlopes5222 2 года назад

      @@rodrossi9749 Where did you buy them?

    • @rodrossi9749
      @rodrossi9749 2 года назад

      @@brayanlopes5222 ..... all 3 are from AliBaba. The seller is no longer there.

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 2 года назад

    No way it’s legit. Not interested in that wacky bass.

  • @killemall1983
    @killemall1983 2 года назад

    that fake les paul has a horrid finish. do not buy something trash like that.

  • @shovington67
    @shovington67 2 года назад

    Relic... too lazy to put the miles on yourself?

  • @hadtodoit4391
    @hadtodoit4391 2 года назад

    I was # 445 to like your show what did I win ?

  • @IDGAF_PLUS
    @IDGAF_PLUS 2 года назад +1

    Looks like a hunk of shit regardless of what it really is.

  • @markpell8979
    @markpell8979 Год назад

    I bet today's subject guitar is a poor knockoff. The body is not proportioned correctly at all.

  • @Guitar5986
    @Guitar5986 2 года назад +8

    Old does not mean vintage. There are a lot of old guitars that are just that...old. Doesn't mean they are bad or good, but they are not vintage & never will be. Reissues and copies are never going to be vintage. This is why a lot of people don't refer to most Norlin era Gibson's as vintage. I own a '70 Gibson SG. It's not vintage. It's old. It's a great guitar but it's never going to be vintage. I love your videos but you really need to stop throwing around the term vintage for every single guitar that is old.

  • @DDE_ADDICT
    @DDE_ADDICT 2 года назад

    fake

  • @jxw129
    @jxw129 2 года назад +1

    Trash. Better off getting a new LP