Karen really didn't want her baby. She even called the Wong's to tell them about the baby in the hopes they take him away so she can go back to living at home without the baby.
I know like Timmy Wong doesn't look like he's interested, obviously in raising that kid and his mothers just more the visiting type not the raising type since he's probably like most people in the south side in the show or depicted either the types who either steal money or they con people out of money or they just live on welfare like Frank. But I feel like his family might be the only really working families and he's like a high schooler. Doubt he would be in the raising market because his mother would not let him They're going to be the visiting types
Or people in the south side of the show that are a mix of both like Frank live on welfare and disability as well as con people out of money as well as steal it and work for it and maybe at the same time
@@jg2722 lol right 🤣 like why not just watch the next episode or look up the next part of this scene on RUclips instead of speculating about how all Asian people are/how they would be in this situation. Lol first off it’s just a tv show lol.. second, why did they write like two paragraphs explaining how they perceive the characters would react.. like this is the finale or something and ended on a major cliffhanger and we will never know what happened 🤣 I truly wonder if that’s a bot comment
@@benjamincolon5486 they look like totally normal people. 😂 Maybe he looked that way due to shock because he just found out about his baby, so he was likely processing that he was a father.
That is correct but any Chinese herb can kill just the illegal ones so the baby just would eat some licorice and other herbs not gonna kill him just make him stronger.
Timmy didn’t even want Hymie he was just there bc his mom forced him😂 Hymie was better off with Shelia, she’s a mess, but at least she accepted and loved Hymie despite his disability while Timmy’s mom wanted to “fix him”
Honestly, I thought Tommy's mom would have killed him for having a child out of wedlock. Major taboo in the Asian community, especially when the other person is non Asian. And yeah, wanting to 'fix him' sounds bad, but its just from a sense of misplaced care. She obviously fell in love with her grandson, and like Sheila would want what's best for Hymie.
@@emilyk6510 Again, it's from a sense of misplaced care. Something the grandmother would have to come to terms with. But it's sweet she still wants her grandson in her life despite the circumstances.
I have to commend Sheila for doing the right thing morally. However, Timmy Wong's mother is wrong. He may be the biological father but he does not have rights until he goes to court to establish paternity. At least that's how it is in most States because he was not married to Karen at the time of the birth. In fact, I believe that since Jody is married to Karen, at least I think he is here, the law of recognizes him as the legal father.
WRONG! Until otherwise decided by the courts in a majority of states, both parents have equal 50/50 rights to the child. Doesn't matter if Mom put him on the birth certificate, if he signed the birth certificate, doesn't matter if he claimed, signed or established paternity, if he was present during the delivery or any of that stupid shit! Just because Mom shit the baby out doesn't mean they have more rights than the Father! Mom doesn't have to go to court and prove that's her child to see the baby..and neither does Dad! SO! Again! In a vast majority of states unless otherwise specified by the courts ...both Parents have EQUAL joint custody of the child! No Parent is more special than the other!
@juliahorvath4129 don't believe that bullshit! In a vast majority of States..unless the court states otherwise...both Parents have equal joint custody when a child is born! Marriage can sometimes factor ...but many of those outdated laws are going away where Marriage automatically equals paternity!
@ninam.1560 Clearly you never have had children. The husband is the legal father of every child born during a marriage. If this were real Tommy would have to file a paternity suit to establish paternity. You can Google it.
He was kind, but very unfit to be a father. The bizarre sexual activities that he was arranging in the home around a baby, as well as the fact that he wanted to shove the other side of Hymie’s family away, and couldn’t see that the Wongs’ home was a much safer and healthier environment for Hymie to be in, shows that. If he were a good and responsible parent, he would recognize that and put Hymie’s best interests above his own. A nice person, but in no way fit to be a parent.
It's actually a weird way some asian parents show they care. Their 'fix' is basically them saying 'I'm not giving up here'. Even if it sounds wrong in many ways, it shows that they truly care. Now obviously in media it's normally shown in a negative light but most of the time chinese granny giving you her herbal medicine (or a ton of homemade food) is her way of showing how much she cares.
@@Catro1000 It's too true, it's odd but they don't give up. My great grandma immigrated from Japan and made a family in the states. When I was little and I didn't speak by 3 my family assumed I was autistic and while they took me to doctors only to be told I was fine, my great grams said I haven't talked because my mom works too much (she was a single mom) and I needed motherly love and not to give up on me. My mom had me live with her and she got me talking by 6 weeks of staying with her. She's gone now but she was amazing to me
Why did the baby's dad start out with "I think you have my baby?. You have an Asian baby in there. We need it back"? As if Sheila stole the baby from his house. He didn't even know he was the father until well after Karen had the baby, and Sheila stole the baby from the hospital, before he knew he was the dad. And who starts out a conversation like that? Why wouldn't he say "Hi, I'm Timmy. I'm Karen's friend, and I believe I am the father of her baby". Not "uhhh I think you have my baby. There's an Asian baby in there. We need it back" lol. Seems like Timmy may have some sort of mental condition. Maybe that's why Hymie came out with down syndrome.
that's cool. ig. but timothy looks pressured and forced to be there. i bet his character does not even want to be there but is forced to because of his mom. 100% does not want to raise the child. also his showed personality does not exhibit any form of down syndrome so honestly... you're just a little racist there. just a teen who doesn't want to but forced to raise a child
@@exb940yeah I know damn good and well if I had a baby and tried to give it away my Mom would run to that door step so fucking fast. That's probably what happened to Timmy shoot.
@@arielbanks5557 not seeing that Hymie being with his real father was what was best for him, trying to breastfeed him, trying to block him from his paternal grandmother, among other things showed he wasn’t fit. Part of being a good parent is putting the child’s best interests above your own. That’s why Shiela allowed him to go live with his father, she realized with how Jody was acting (especially right before the Wongs came to the door) that it wasn’t a healthy environment for Hymie to grow up in.
@@StealthMode3924 1. He wanted to keep with him and Sheila because they didn't Tommy or his mother that well, HELLO THEY JUST MET THAT VERY SCENE!! 2. He attached that breast milk device to him because, as he mentioned in that scene, it's all about bonding with the child, which I thought was odd but also very sweet. Now here's something to remember, you don't have to be blood to be family.
@@arielbanks5557 1. You don’t even know me, because if you did you’d know I’ve been a stepparent as well as I have children of my own, I *DO* know what I’m talking about. 2. The fact that you’re getting snippy and triggered by a complete stranger who wasn’t even arguing with you says all I need to know about you. Have a nice day.
I watched this when I was younger and I thought Sheila was just a nut case, rewatching it now, I feel so bad for her, she tried so hard for everyone and no one really did love her.
Where I live if you don't put the father on the birth certificate and you're not married then it is very hard for them to establish rights. You can deny he is the father and they can't really force you to take a DNA test
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“Whats wrong? You Break him?”
“We fix him” 😂
“He’s got DOWN SYNDROME!”
"Chinese medicine best we got herbs to fix chromosome"
Karen really didn't want her baby. She even called the Wong's to tell them about the baby in the hopes they take him away so she can go back to living at home without the baby.
I know like Timmy Wong doesn't look like he's interested, obviously in raising that kid and his mothers just more the visiting type not the raising type since he's probably like most people in the south side in the show or depicted either the types who either steal money or they con people out of money or they just live on welfare like Frank. But I feel like his family might be the only really working families and he's like a high schooler. Doubt he would be in the raising market because his mother would not let him They're going to be the visiting types
Or people in the south side of the show that are a mix of both like Frank live on welfare and disability as well as con people out of money as well as steal it and work for it and maybe at the same time
@@benjamincolon5486you made alot of assumptions and stereotypes in your comment lol I’m sure the baby will be fine with the Wongs.
@@jg2722 lol right 🤣 like why not just watch the next episode or look up the next part of this scene on RUclips instead of speculating about how all Asian people are/how they would be in this situation. Lol first off it’s just a tv show lol.. second, why did they write like two paragraphs explaining how they perceive the characters would react.. like this is the finale or something and ended on a major cliffhanger and we will never know what happened 🤣 I truly wonder if that’s a bot comment
@@benjamincolon5486 they look like totally normal people. 😂 Maybe he looked that way due to shock because he just found out about his baby, so he was likely processing that he was a father.
Sheila did the right thing...Sharing her Grandson with the birth father..She tried..
This is so sad. I’m glad the baby is loved but that grandma better not try to “fix” him.
The Chinese do have very good herbal medicine
@Shania-od5pn those homemade ones are actually real life Miracles
@@ghoit Not all of them!
@@Shania-od5pn You can't fix Down syndrome! I know this because I have a cousin with the same condition!
That is correct but any Chinese herb can kill just the illegal ones so the baby just would eat some licorice and other herbs not gonna kill him just make him stronger.
Timmy didn’t even want Hymie he was just there bc his mom forced him😂 Hymie was better off with Shelia, she’s a mess, but at least she accepted and loved Hymie despite his disability while Timmy’s mom wanted to “fix him”
Honestly, I thought Tommy's mom would have killed him for having a child out of wedlock. Major taboo in the Asian community, especially when the other person is non Asian. And yeah, wanting to 'fix him' sounds bad, but its just from a sense of misplaced care. She obviously fell in love with her grandson, and like Sheila would want what's best for Hymie.
wanting to “fix” a child with down syndrome sounds bad because it is bad no matter what the grandmother’s intentions are…
@@emilyk6510 Again, it's from a sense of misplaced care. Something the grandmother would have to come to terms with. But it's sweet she still wants her grandson in her life despite the circumstances.
I have to commend Sheila for doing the right thing morally. However, Timmy Wong's mother is wrong. He may be the biological father but he does not have rights until he goes to court to establish paternity. At least that's how it is in most States because he was not married to Karen at the time of the birth. In fact, I believe that since Jody is married to Karen, at least I think he is here, the law of recognizes him as the legal father.
What? That’s crazy
WRONG! Until otherwise decided by the courts in a majority of states, both parents have equal 50/50 rights to the child. Doesn't matter if Mom put him on the birth certificate, if he signed the birth certificate, doesn't matter if he claimed, signed or established paternity, if he was present during the delivery or any of that stupid shit! Just because Mom shit the baby out doesn't mean they have more rights than the Father! Mom doesn't have to go to court and prove that's her child to see the baby..and neither does Dad! SO! Again! In a vast majority of states unless otherwise specified by the courts ...both Parents have EQUAL joint custody of the child! No Parent is more special than the other!
@juliahorvath4129 don't believe that bullshit! In a vast majority of States..unless the court states otherwise...both Parents have equal joint custody when a child is born! Marriage can sometimes factor ...but many of those outdated laws are going away where Marriage automatically equals paternity!
@@ninam.1560in Florida it’s not like that. I know from experience.
@ninam.1560 Clearly you never have had children. The husband is the legal father of every child born during a marriage. If this were real Tommy would have to file a paternity suit to establish paternity. You can Google it.
Jody was such a good man
He was kind, but very unfit to be a father. The bizarre sexual activities that he was arranging in the home around a baby, as well as the fact that he wanted to shove the other side of Hymie’s family away, and couldn’t see that the Wongs’ home was a much safer and healthier environment for Hymie to be in, shows that. If he were a good and responsible parent, he would recognize that and put Hymie’s best interests above his own.
A nice person, but in no way fit to be a parent.
@@StealthMode3924 damn a whole damn essay all they said was he was a good man 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Joe-ix5hj idc what u would call it im not u and u not me
@@bigbirds130 I know what I’d call you. 🖕🏽
@@bigbirds130 Four sentences an essay does not make. Over and out.
idk why ppl are saying the wong family is better but they literally are talking about curing down’s syndrome like?
classic asian parents
As an asian man myself. I met a lot of people like her during family gatherings.
A lot of people don’t want to admit their child is defective so they cope with magic bullshit but they learn to live and appreciate them
It's actually a weird way some asian parents show they care. Their 'fix' is basically them saying 'I'm not giving up here'. Even if it sounds wrong in many ways, it shows that they truly care. Now obviously in media it's normally shown in a negative light but most of the time chinese granny giving you her herbal medicine (or a ton of homemade food) is her way of showing how much she cares.
@@Catro1000 It's too true, it's odd but they don't give up. My great grandma immigrated from Japan and made a family in the states. When I was little and I didn't speak by 3 my family assumed I was autistic and while they took me to doctors only to be told I was fine, my great grams said I haven't talked because my mom works too much (she was a single mom) and I needed motherly love and not to give up on me. My mom had me live with her and she got me talking by 6 weeks of staying with her. She's gone now but she was amazing to me
"Nothing,...its for the dog....sparky!?"
😂
Why did the baby's dad start out with "I think you have my baby?. You have an Asian baby in there. We need it back"? As if Sheila stole the baby from his house. He didn't even know he was the father until well after Karen had the baby, and Sheila stole the baby from the hospital, before he knew he was the dad. And who starts out a conversation like that? Why wouldn't he say "Hi, I'm Timmy. I'm Karen's friend, and I believe I am the father of her baby". Not "uhhh I think you have my baby. There's an Asian baby in there. We need it back" lol. Seems like Timmy may have some sort of mental condition. Maybe that's why Hymie came out with down syndrome.
that's cool. ig. but timothy looks pressured and forced to be there. i bet his character does not even want to be there but is forced to because of his mom. 100% does not want to raise the child. also his showed personality does not exhibit any form of down syndrome so honestly... you're just a little racist there. just a teen who doesn't want to but forced to raise a child
@@exb940yeah I know damn good and well if I had a baby and tried to give it away my Mom would run to that door step so fucking fast. That's probably what happened to Timmy shoot.
They have a reason why they call this show shameless because no one cares how they act towards others in this show.
Cuz Timmy is a teenager who has to raise a child, if anyone should get shit for the situation it’s karen
That's not what causes down syndrome. It's literally an extra chromosome.
this show man😂😂😂😂
why does both Timmy and Karen refer to the baby as "it" Dx while both grandma's are doting on him.
They didn’t want the baby. That’s why.
Jody was a sweet person, but he was very unfit to be a parent. Or rather, a stepparent.
That idiot was more unfit to marry then Karen. He literally cried after sex
Okay yeah, he relapsed on his sex addiction but he was still becoming a great parent.
@@arielbanks5557 not seeing that Hymie being with his real father was what was best for him, trying to breastfeed him, trying to block him from his paternal grandmother, among other things showed he wasn’t fit. Part of being a good parent is putting the child’s best interests above your own. That’s why Shiela allowed him to go live with his father, she realized with how Jody was acting (especially right before the Wongs came to the door) that it wasn’t a healthy environment for Hymie to grow up in.
@@StealthMode3924 1. He wanted to keep with him and Sheila because they didn't Tommy or his mother that well, HELLO THEY JUST MET THAT VERY SCENE!! 2. He attached that breast milk device to him because, as he mentioned in that scene, it's all about bonding with the child, which I thought was odd but also very sweet. Now here's something to remember, you don't have to be blood to be family.
@@arielbanks5557 1. You don’t even know me, because if you did you’d know I’ve been a stepparent as well as I have children of my own, I *DO* know what I’m talking about. 2. The fact that you’re getting snippy and triggered by a complete stranger who wasn’t even arguing with you says all I need to know about you. Have a nice day.
I watched this when I was younger and I thought Sheila was just a nut case, rewatching it now, I feel so bad for her, she tried so hard for everyone and no one really did love her.
she was loved, it was just complicated.
Where I live if you don't put the father on the birth certificate and you're not married then it is very hard for them to establish rights. You can deny he is the father and they can't really force you to take a DNA test
where do u live?
Lol wtf just happened 😂
Watch the show 😭
Poor normie
01:07 For all the holistic/Dr Sebi/Raw Vegan lifestyle people that is what you sound like.
Sparky 💀
Asian family will take him . How sad
At least they want him. Asians do have a strong sense of family and community.
I've only known one man who beat Downs Syndrome
Theo!!!
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