@@tanisrobinson3629 Sound Awake is for sure a stellar album. However I just can't think of any other album that sounds anything like Asymmetry. It's just got such a unique sound imo
Steve Judd just plays the coolest grooves out there. Him and Jon Stockman together may just be the best rhythm section in the progressive rock/metal world
@@sietsebuijsman8523 the drums for scarabs (and the entirety of themata) were actually entirely recorded by Drew Goddard as their first drummer left right before they went into the studio for themata.
Well thats just your personal opinion, which i'm guessing takes your personal taste in music too much into account. I'm saying this as someone whose favourite album of all time is Sound Awake
I opened for Karnivool at Harpo's, in Detroit, years & years ago. I'd never heard of them back then, and I remember thinking "who the f*ck is THIS?" They rocked the house. Very talented musicians.
@@theuslopes Cheers to you hopefully living your dream someday. Karnivool has only gotten bigger and better since all those years ago, best start emailing their agent/manager sooner than later. That's how we got on the show, our guitarist/manager usually sends over 100 emails and sample tracks per month.
Damn!! I didn’t get into Karnivool until 2013. I’m from Windsor and if I knew you guys were opening for them at Harpos I would have been there 1000000%
I'm gutted you didn't explain why the acoustic triple j version sounds like a different time signature. I really love what you explained here and I want to delve into all the songs and lesson you presented in this video! this song has been a puzzle to me for a long time!!
I suggest you take a look at the last minute of Karnivool's "Change Pt. 2" and the start of "Deadman" The drums will blow your socks off and the syncopation is out of this world.
Hey buddy, I recently finished my note by note transcription of that entire (super awesome) Song. Happy to share it! Just send me message or check my cover'S description. I don't wanna spread links in the comment section of someone elses videos without being asked for it. :) All the best! Hannes
Karnivool is great!!! And I've only learned about them a few months ago, when Rick Beato did a video about one of their songs. They quickly became one of my favorite bands.
I am so happy that you have done this band. Finally, they are criminally underrated one of the best bands to ever exist on this planet. Thank you so much. I can die now. Happy man.
We Are is very cleverly mixed to give the impression that it is in 3, I heard it the same way the first time. If you listen to it live, the triplet feel becomes much more obvious.
Very happy to discover these videos. i have always have a hard time hearing these complex rhytms, your videos does a great job understanding them. Thank you
So glad you covered Vool, they are one of my favorites! Sivan Arbel sounds great so I'll def check her stuff out! Oh and I would love if you analyzed anything by Car Bomb and The Contortionist!
Love it! I've always been perplexed by the changes in this song. I'm grooving along (in 4) for the first minute and a half and then it suddenly after "stare into the light" feels like it shifts to something entirely different. I feel like this whole album is a mindfuck for drummers. I've listened to it hundreds of times and know every song well, but I absolutely cannot play to any of it, haha!
Firstly , Karnivool. What a band ! So many gems they have in their catalog. Would like to see more of their analysis . Secondly, I came accross this channel earlier today, and absolutely enjoying the content and the style of presentation . Kudos !
Same !! I spent weeks or ever months feeling this song in 3/4, before seeing them dance in 12/8 in the music-video, and then stumbling upon a live version without the blurring 8ths-playing hihat/shaker... Anyway, amazing video as usual, and many thanks for explaining this this mind-wrecking fill from one of my favorite albums !!
Finally someone to acknowledge my long-time heroes. Loved their music right from the moment I listened to Themata for the first time. Thanksm Yogev, for this feature and the recommendation to those who didn't know the band yet!
Thank you for shining some light on Karnivool! I've seen them 9 times live, and i'm seeing them twice next month! They are AMAZING! The band that got me into Prog. Much love from Australia. Thank you for such entertaining videos :)
Bro. You're the MAN for this one! So glad I found you through the Meshuggah videos you've done! "We Are" is such a fun song and I've been a fan of Karnivool since Themata! Great work!
A few weeks ago, I had this song playing very faintly in my car when I turned it on. I could barely hear it and couldn't tell what song it was, but I absolutely loved the 4/4 groove. I brought the volume up and realized I'd been listening to it in 3/4 for 9 years. It's such a different feel. At least you didn't take 9 years to hear it haha. (It even took me some relistening/training to get the 1 beat right)
I had the best time learning the song "Change" from Sound Awake. There are some really tricky parts in that song and it is so fulfilling when you nail it. The Caudal Lure took a very long time. Took forever to count that one. I still can't play that one 100% yet lol.
I didn't get into this record quite as much as Sound Awake, but We Are is so SO good. Easily up there with their best songs. I was recommended Karnivool around 2011, it was a slow burn for me getting into their sound but We Are is the song that eventually hooked me when it came out. Thanks for this analysis!
Firstly, I love Karnivool...either my top band, or in the top 3. Secondly...Shwesmo...holy shit, what a project. I'm looking to make a dark prog color bass EP soon, and this is much more in line with what I'm hearing in my head than anything else I've ever heard. Thank you for this!
YES, my request! Or at least one of the people requesting this. Thanks so much for doing this and for responding as well! Don't worry about not picking up on the rhythm immediately. I've played drums for over 20 years and didn't catch the correct rhythm for YEARS until I head the live version. I just always went with the wrong pulse and figured there was some fancy-shmancy rhythmics going on with the pickups and fills. Such a fantastic band, I'm not surprised you'd be into them considering you've already covered Tool, Meshuggah, Porcupine Tree, and Opeth. Plenty of material for you to analyze, I'm sure. Have you considered doing The Dillinger Escape Plan?
@@YogevGabay When I Lost My Bet, Farewell Mona Lisa and Pig Latin are personal favorites that I THINK have some oddities going on, but sometimes it's hard to tell if it's just some phrasing or accenting at a fast tempo or actual time signature tricks. Some of the more popular songs tend to be more straightforward. Another band that sits somewhere between Meshuggah and Dillinger is Car Bomb and they might give you a run for your money as well :)
I always thought that fill in the end is some kind of absurd metric modulation that I'd never get but yeah now it makes sense if, like you said, you pick a subdivision and stick with it. Great work man! Learning so much EDIT: btw Gojira released a new single and it's a time sig pandemonium, you should check it out...and hopefully myth bust it ;)
My favourite song off that record, and one of my favourite Karnivool songs overall. I was mesmerised with the rhythmic manipulation going on in We Are. I feel most of the song in 3, but Judd starts doing 4 to the floor in a later chorus and that's where my mind was blown. That, and that fill you covered. Sick band.
This Album was release at a really poor time in my life. It wasn't what I was wanting to hear from them, especially with Sound Awake still in my brain. I didn't like it at first. It took several years for me to finally appreciate and love it. I'm so glad to see more folks having talked about them
These videos are amazing and I’m learning so much! Seeing a live video of this song finally gave its pocket less ambiguity for me a while back btw it def is a bit tricky
And I like your contemplation on Steve at the end. He is really one of the best drum-part-song-writers I am aware of in the genre. It's fair to say, he fits this band absolutely PERFECTLY. ..hah, am never tired of fanboying on Steve's drumming.
I’m very patient with this whole pandemic situation so I can go to the sound awake 10th anniversary tour... I’m glad you’ve covered them. Hope you do more about this amazing band
The intro to Umbra is probably my favorite intro to a song ever
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Discovered your channel a few weeks ago. We basically have the same tastes in djent/prog polyrythms. And each time I watch one of your analyses, I want to (re-)discover the band's discography. Thanks for that!
I've been waiting for you to break down a Karnivool song for so long, and you didn't let me down (as usual). But I'll like to suggest their song Scarabs for any future Time Consuming. It's been while since I heard that song for the first time, and at that time I had no ideia of what the heck was going on, and has been ten years since and I still have no ideia lol. Thanks, again, for your amazing videos and for the knowledge you give us.
I actually asked Drew Goddard (Karnivool guitarist) on Facebook after learning about the confusion since I initially believed the song was in 3/4 when I first heard it. He confirmed it's 4/4. In my opinion though, the bridge ("let's reset it all") with Steve's stack/china hits is so obviously in 3/4 it throws you off. Drew also gave credit to Jon's bass hitting the backbeat perfectly which further sold the illusion that the song is in 3/4.
I was checking the meshugga vids when this vid appears... Man love your work and how you teach. Thanks for all this musical knowledge and your commitment. This channel is one of the best things i follow.
I disagree! At least in my circles I haven't heard too much about them. Maybe I should reconsider my friends hahahahaha I think we should help spread the Karnivool word as much as we can! I know that for me, they have entered my list of song examples I teach with !
Wow I'm definitely going to check Karnivool out! Didn't know of them much! Anyway I think every non drummer will perceive this as a strong 4 rather than 3. Great drumming btw!
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That whole album is criminally underrated
For me it was a disappointment after Sound Awake, but a very good album in its own right
@@tanisrobinson3629 Sound Awake is for sure a stellar album. However I just can't think of any other album that sounds anything like Asymmetry. It's just got such a unique sound imo
It was a bit trippy for me... I liked the simpler approach to themata and sound awake. Sky machine is fantastic though!
For me themata is all time. The rest are average at best and not come close to themata.
@@dbo4506 You're tripping. Themata is a more straight forward rock album compared to Sound Awake's progressiveness and Asymmetry's experimentation
Caudal Lure by Karnivool is a mindfuck from the beginning
Steve Judd just plays the coolest grooves out there. Him and Jon Stockman together may just be the best rhythm section in the progressive rock/metal world
Not to mention Scarabs! :D
@@sietsebuijsman8523 the drums for scarabs (and the entirety of themata) were actually entirely recorded by Drew Goddard as their first drummer left right before they went into the studio for themata.
Outro of Change
That's my favorite song from that album, doubt it's a common choice
12/8 with that 4:3 polyrhythm feel is what I consider Karnivool's signature groove. Pops up in a number of their songs.
Karnivool "Sound Awake" - one of the greatest popular music albums ever. Any genre.
Well thats just your personal opinion, which i'm guessing takes your personal taste in music too much into account. I'm saying this as someone whose favourite album of all time is Sound Awake
@@P0lkoli Well no fucking shit it's just my personal opinion. Whoopty fucking doo, thank you for clarifying that for me.
@@amjan :D
@@amjan Glad to be of service
@@amjan don't be a peepee head amjan
Most underrated band on the planet. “Sound Awake” was the best album since Tool’s “Lateralus” when it came out.
Karnivool is so underrated. Love those m8s
I opened for Karnivool at Harpo's, in Detroit, years & years ago. I'd never heard of them back then, and I remember thinking "who the f*ck is THIS?" They rocked the house. Very talented musicians.
that would have been a dream coming true for me!
@@theuslopes Cheers to you hopefully living your dream someday. Karnivool has only gotten bigger and better since all those years ago, best start emailing their agent/manager sooner than later. That's how we got on the show, our guitarist/manager usually sends over 100 emails and sample tracks per month.
Damn!! I didn’t get into Karnivool until 2013. I’m from Windsor and if I knew you guys were opening for them at Harpos I would have been there 1000000%
HEY! You're the guy from Distorted Harmony! I love your band! One of my favorites, including Karnivool. Thank you for this video and for your music :)
I am !!
Thanks a lot !!!
This song has my favorite drumming ever. It’s so aggressive, not necessarily in attack but in rhythmic (dis)placement
I'm gutted you didn't explain why the acoustic triple j version sounds like a different time signature. I really love what you explained here and I want to delve into all the songs and lesson you presented in this video! this song has been a puzzle to me for a long time!!
I'm applying what you demonstrated and it's very difficult but its is making sense!!
I suggest you take a look at the last minute of Karnivool's "Change Pt. 2" and the start of "Deadman"
The drums will blow your socks off and the syncopation is out of this world.
Hey buddy, I recently finished my note by note transcription of that entire (super awesome) Song. Happy to share it! Just send me message or check my cover'S description. I don't wanna spread links in the comment section of someone elses videos without being asked for it. :) All the best! Hannes
This! Sound Awake and especially deadman is pure auditory wellbeing with an Aussie accent.
Steve Judd and John Stockman are such an amazing combination. Great analysis and yup they are TOTALLY underrated!
best rock/metal rhythm section in the world imo
Karnivool is great!!! And I've only learned about them a few months ago, when Rick Beato did a video about one of their songs. They quickly became one of my favorite bands.
Karnivool are easily one of the best bands to come out of Australia. Can't recommend them enough! Would love to see you do a few more of their songs!
Man I totally agree!
Karnivool are amazing, and your channe is gold!
Karnivool are easily the loudest gig I've ever been to. The last time I ever went to a gig without earplugs was the first time I saw Karnivool.
I am so happy that you have done this band. Finally, they are criminally underrated one of the best bands to ever exist on this planet. Thank you so much. I can die now. Happy man.
You do Karnivool too?! Easily my favorite music breakdown channel now.
Yesssssssssss
One of my favourites!!
Steve Judd is a rythmic genius
We Are is very cleverly mixed to give the impression that it is in 3, I heard it the same way the first time. If you listen to it live, the triplet feel becomes much more obvious.
I'm new to this chanel, I'm only a guitar player interested into rythms, drums, time feel and I found all this content simply brilliant ! Thanks a lot
Very happy to discover these videos. i have always have a hard time hearing these complex rhytms, your videos does a great job understanding them. Thank you
I feel the same about a song called “Umbra” by them. The drummer in this band is feckin incredible.
The whole band is incredible
So glad you covered Vool, they are one of my favorites! Sivan Arbel sounds great so I'll def check her stuff out! Oh and I would love if you analyzed anything by Car Bomb and The Contortionist!
Car bomb, lol. That'll be a 3 part'r minimum
It was confirmed by Steve Judd that We Are is a straight forward 4/4.
I must confess I picked it up exactly as you did , for the last 10 years!
Love it! I've always been perplexed by the changes in this song. I'm grooving along (in 4) for the first minute and a half and then it suddenly after "stare into the light" feels like it shifts to something entirely different. I feel like this whole album is a mindfuck for drummers. I've listened to it hundreds of times and know every song well, but I absolutely cannot play to any of it, haha!
This channel is quite a discovery for me
I know right. With the quality of his vids he deserves more subs
Very Nice! Thanx for sharing Yogev! 🤘🏻😃
cheers from morocco
Makes me love them more dude.
Firstly , Karnivool. What a band ! So many gems they have in their catalog. Would like to see more of their analysis . Secondly, I came accross this channel earlier today, and absolutely enjoying the content and the style of presentation . Kudos !
THanks!!
Man, you are amazing, explaining how my favorite songs work is super useful! Thank you!
Same !! I spent weeks or ever months feeling this song in 3/4, before seeing them dance in 12/8 in the music-video, and then stumbling upon a live version without the blurring 8ths-playing hihat/shaker... Anyway, amazing video as usual, and many thanks for explaining this this mind-wrecking fill from one of my favorite albums !!
I felt it wrong for years. Maybe time to sell my drums.
Finally someone to acknowledge my long-time heroes. Loved their music right from the moment I listened to Themata for the first time. Thanksm Yogev, for this feature and the recommendation to those who didn't know the band yet!
Best band they're great !!!
damn, that video is awesome, the music is awesome and you're awesome, Yogev
Thank you for shining some light on Karnivool! I've seen them 9 times live, and i'm seeing them twice next month! They are AMAZING! The band that got me into Prog.
Much love from Australia. Thank you for such entertaining videos :)
Thanks !
Bro. You're the MAN for this one! So glad I found you through the Meshuggah videos you've done! "We Are" is such a fun song and I've been a fan of Karnivool since Themata! Great work!
Also, the fill you highlighted was my clue into the 4/4 (and the constant kick drum ;) )
Best fiilllll
You make high quality content! And your accent gives everything a really sympathic note!
hahahahahaa english is hard
A few weeks ago, I had this song playing very faintly in my car when I turned it on. I could barely hear it and couldn't tell what song it was, but I absolutely loved the 4/4 groove. I brought the volume up and realized I'd been listening to it in 3/4 for 9 years. It's such a different feel.
At least you didn't take 9 years to hear it haha. (It even took me some relistening/training to get the 1 beat right)
I had the best time learning the song "Change" from Sound Awake. There are some really tricky parts in that song and it is so fulfilling when you nail it. The Caudal Lure took a very long time. Took forever to count that one. I still can't play that one 100% yet lol.
I didn't get into this record quite as much as Sound Awake, but We Are is so SO good. Easily up there with their best songs. I was recommended Karnivool around 2011, it was a slow burn for me getting into their sound but We Are is the song that eventually hooked me when it came out. Thanks for this analysis!
The more you listen, the more reward. Rare
This is quite enlightening and I also like your style of presenting! Very well done, thank you!
So like
What about new day?
That’s good one
It's pretty straight forward 6:8. What's to break down there?
Amazing band, amazing explanation.
Yesss! I think I posted this in the comments, regardless, so excited to see this here!
So great ! The first part of the video answers well my noob question last week about 3 and 4 grouping in Chaabi grooves :-)
Great video as always! Such a cool groove!
Just wanted to thank you for a video about Karnivool (the best band in the world)
you explain this so well and with a touch of humor, it's really awesome! Subscribed
Firstly, I love Karnivool...either my top band, or in the top 3.
Secondly...Shwesmo...holy shit, what a project. I'm looking to make a dark prog color bass EP soon, and this is much more in line with what I'm hearing in my head than anything else I've ever heard. Thank you for this!
Happy you like it !
YES, my request! Or at least one of the people requesting this. Thanks so much for doing this and for responding as well! Don't worry about not picking up on the rhythm immediately. I've played drums for over 20 years and didn't catch the correct rhythm for YEARS until I head the live version. I just always went with the wrong pulse and figured there was some fancy-shmancy rhythmics going on with the pickups and fills.
Such a fantastic band, I'm not surprised you'd be into them considering you've already covered Tool, Meshuggah, Porcupine Tree, and Opeth. Plenty of material for you to analyze, I'm sure. Have you considered doing The Dillinger Escape Plan?
TBH, I don't know dillinger AS WELL. any specific song?
@@YogevGabay When I Lost My Bet, Farewell Mona Lisa and Pig Latin are personal favorites that I THINK have some oddities going on, but sometimes it's hard to tell if it's just some phrasing or accenting at a fast tempo or actual time signature tricks. Some of the more popular songs tend to be more straightforward.
Another band that sits somewhere between Meshuggah and Dillinger is Car Bomb and they might give you a run for your money as well :)
Thank you
I always thought that fill in the end is some kind of absurd metric modulation that I'd never get but yeah now it makes sense if, like you said, you pick a subdivision and stick with it.
Great work man! Learning so much
EDIT: btw Gojira released a new single and it's a time sig pandemonium, you should check it out...and hopefully myth bust it ;)
Glad you liked it! Will listen to it !
Never thought I’d see the day... thank you for this video
Great video, I'll definitely check out Karnivool :)
My favourite song off that record, and one of my favourite Karnivool songs overall. I was mesmerised with the rhythmic manipulation going on in We Are. I feel most of the song in 3, but Judd starts doing 4 to the floor in a later chorus and that's where my mind was blown. That, and that fill you covered. Sick band.
Dude the additional music you provided was awesome also
What a powerful performance! We really love your musicality!
Yesss, you did it, great video! Love it!
I dare you to try and break down the drum solo at the end of "Change Pt.2" by Karnivool
Such a cool section!
Amazing video as usual!
Your videos is something I was always looking for
This Album was release at a really poor time in my life. It wasn't what I was wanting to hear from them, especially with Sound Awake still in my brain. I didn't like it at first. It took several years for me to finally appreciate and love it. I'm so glad to see more folks having talked about them
These videos are amazing and I’m learning so much! Seeing a live video of this song finally gave its pocket less ambiguity for me a while back btw it def is a bit tricky
Thank for the video man!
You need to breakdown "Scarabs" from Karnivool.
And I like your contemplation on Steve at the end. He is really one of the best drum-part-song-writers I am aware of in the genre. It's fair to say, he fits this band absolutely PERFECTLY. ..hah, am never tired of fanboying on Steve's drumming.
Yeah man I'm slowly tuning in to this band it's awesome !
I’m very patient with this whole pandemic situation so I can go to the sound awake 10th anniversary tour...
I’m glad you’ve covered them. Hope you do more about this amazing band
Another great video!
You're a treasure, and so is the band!
Came here yesterday for Meshuggah, subscribed and binged watched since!
so good!! I love that song and that groove!
The intro to Umbra is probably my favorite intro to a song ever
Discovered your channel a few weeks ago. We basically have the same tastes in djent/prog polyrythms. And each time I watch one of your analyses, I want to (re-)discover the band's discography. Thanks for that!
You're welcome !!
Yep found this band by happenstance and absolutely loved it.
I've been waiting for you to break down a Karnivool song for so long, and you didn't let me down (as usual).
But I'll like to suggest their song Scarabs for any future Time Consuming. It's been while since I heard that song for the first time, and at that time I had no ideia of what the heck was going on, and has been ten years since and I still have no ideia lol.
Thanks, again, for your amazing videos and for the knowledge you give us.
Will check it out!
You can also check Troy Wright for a full Scarabscription of it. Guess it's still up.
Yo are first person who has understood correctly this incredible song.
Greetings from Bogotá, Colombia.
Such a good song !
In Xavi by Snarky Puppy is an 3:4 Polyrythm also and has maroccan rythms
They are a criminally underrated Western Australian band, great people too
Your videos are so good. Top drawer
Rick Beato's break down of Goliath is amazing, and he talks about the insane time signature in that song at great depth.
Nice break down
Your videos are amazing! Karnivool is really good!
Oh man...as a loooooong-time Karnies fan, your "noob" interpretation of the 1 is a really cool new thing for me haha, many thanks!
hahahaha my pleasure!
nice work, appreciate it
I actually asked Drew Goddard (Karnivool guitarist) on Facebook after learning about the confusion since I initially believed the song was in 3/4 when I first heard it. He confirmed it's 4/4.
In my opinion though, the bridge ("let's reset it all") with Steve's stack/china hits is so obviously in 3/4 it throws you off. Drew also gave credit to Jon's bass hitting the backbeat perfectly which further sold the illusion that the song is in 3/4.
I was checking the meshugga vids when this vid appears... Man love your work and how you teach. Thanks for all this musical knowledge and your commitment. This channel is one of the best things i follow.
Awesome! Thank you!
Loving the content, thanks man
found the video excellent keep up the good work man !
Yogev, I love you
Some good stuff here!
As in all good stuff
Glad to hear that you also heard the 3/4 with a 16th note pickup. Everyone I ask gets thrown off by the snare/tom pattern.
Yup!
No man! they aren't underrated. It's a cult kinda thing. ❤️❤️
I disagree! At least in my circles I haven't heard too much about them.
Maybe I should reconsider my friends hahahahaha
I think we should help spread the Karnivool word as much as we can! I know that for me, they have entered my list of song examples I teach with !
Wow I'm definitely going to check Karnivool out! Didn't know of them much! Anyway I think every non drummer will perceive this as a strong 4 rather than 3. Great drumming btw!
Listen to Sound Awake, such an experience!
How did sound awake , treat you? It took me awhile, but I was so conditioned to 4/4 . You can understand why Ian ( singer ) sways.
AWSOME
good job!
Love your content!!!
even with that fill that makes more sense with the 4/4 pulse, it honestly sounds better to me in 3
how come when I miss the one you're not making a video about it?
and god knows I gave you all the opportunities in the world
I'll make a video once you actually get it.
Sos un maestro. Ojala algún día hagas alguno en español. :)
Jeez, even the reggaeton groove comes from a 3:4 standpoint.