People say hearing a grizzly bear is scary or lions is scary which no doubt they are but man that sound is what scares me the most...not the part breaking sound but the wife responding to the part breaking sound lol
This event was a blast! I don’t think I would have had the confidence to even attempt something like Mottino Wash without the benefit of seeing the others go before me and you guys and everyone who came along to spot for us. Thanks so much for running these events and I’d recommend them to anyone.
Aluminum tierods are awesome when they show how they bend under a rock and spring back like nothing ever happened but that same flex when the front is locked and you're trying to steer over an obstacle that put loads against the wheels not only is ugly but can take the rod ends as well. Look in the video in slow motion as Kevin tries to steer driver. The passenger wheel is going driver as Kevin wants BOTH wheels to go driver , but the driver wheel gets cocked towards the inside while the tierod is flexing like a biatch. Not a fan of aluminum tierods. Yes they're big and shinny oh and they flex for sure. Bla bla bla.
The anti-flip on that rod end will make it weaker. But looking at where it broke, you can see some tiny voids, and a really large grain structure. Which suggest a poor forging job. They will definitely want to talk to their manufacturer.
I thought big grain too! Soon as it was shown. Like what the,,,, is that cast!?!?!? Nah no way... Kevin making the rod into a frown then sawing on it might have not helped.
All of the previous beatings.....metal never forgets. I have broke a few sector shafts that were cracked for long periods of time before failure. I have a specific technique I use to inspect after hard rides now.
Definitely overheated in the hardening process if that is supposed to be forged steel. Looks more like cast with that monster grain! This coming from a knife maker who does heat treat all the time.
Pretty sweet you guys do trails with groups like today's video. I can see that you guys boosted some of the peoples confidence and they got to actually see what there rigs are capable of and see there new parts and money working. It would be cool for you guys to take newbies out with stock or very little upgraded vehicles. People just getting into the dirt hobby. Love all the content. Keep rocking!
Pretty easy to see, the rod ends are way too long. They need to be as short as possible and the big beafy ally bar needs to be as long as possible, giving just enough length to the rod ends for adjustment. The way it it there's massive leverage against the thread on the rod end, which is so much narrower and weaker than the rest of it.
My Barnes aluminum steering linkage uses a longer aluminum bar and shorter tierod ends. I do like to see how much flex is in the aluminum bars when compared to the steel bars and not stay deformed. They always bounce back in to stock form.
I broke my aluminum fusion on the Rubicon and I don't think I was doing really that much to it it broke right where the rod end goes in to the aluminum bar. It has a lifetime warranty so they did send me out a new bar and the tie rod ends I got are inch and a half offset and I guess they make a 2 inch offset . I think I'll keep my inch and a half offset. 👌
Your team gets to have some of the most fun. Living in midwest we are flat and muddy. My wife is happy we don't live out west because I would be right there with you! You 2 are living the life of fun and adventure. Be safe
What a great trail for your group, Escape roads to cater for different abilities in driver and/or vehicle. Added to this the briliant communication to the spotters, fantastic stuff. letting the driver what theyre about to feel at each corner. But remember, rock sliders before light bars. Because everyone is going to be tackling 4 foot rocks... As a side notem those Gladiators look amazing, the 9 year old in me wants one.
What’s up at the beginning I saw an XJ! That’s what I have and love it! Yet we didn’t see any video of him crawling!! But there was video and f him saving other people and winch towing them out!! Give some XJ love peeps!!
What a blast! (Or should I say “Pop!). Poor Kevin - that look of a kid getting scolded, by momma Brittney. Fantastic group and rigs! Enjoyed seeing the Dodge Truck! Built it, Wheel it,Break it, fix it! That’s what friends are for. We need the rest of this trip! LiteBriteNationPopRocks!
Happy New Year!!!He said that was a sucky spot , pop 😬 it's great to see Jelly doing her part helping out with trail maintenance , she's amazing!!!!♥️♥️💯🤙
Watching the video, I think when your front end fell off that rock it stressed that tie rod. You fell right onto the tie rod, it bent a good two to three inches, making the weak point that driver-side tie rod end. You came down fairly hard, and that was a lot of weight transferred to the end. So, while that wasn't a particularly harder obstacle than anything else you have ever done... you were at a really weird articulation angle there and your spotter was not making it any easier for you.
Dear Brittany, I get so enthused by your lil videos that I forget Kevins default is to try break everything, but on this occasion he just proved that untested is just that ! Great to see a succesful event with a little jelly love too 😊😉
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A couple of points from an armchair engineer. The rod end with the fracture mode appears to be extremely hard, as in overly hardened during heat treating. Not having the tie rod in hand for inspection, however high stress parts that are threaded don't use a cut thread but a rolled thread. The root of the thread is a stress riser on a cut thread, while a rolled thread reforms the material. The rod end appears very beefy, even larger than rod ends on military off-road 5 or 7 ton trucks.
Love those Gladiators. When Brit says no stupid stuff today, you did it perfect. Wait till she's not looking and go do man stuff. You kids are awesome. It is beautiful to see the fun you have together.
It's 100% the placement of the hydro assist. The video shows exactly what happened. The aluminum tie rod is visibly bowing because of the force applied by the HA. Kevins driver side wheel is towed in because of the bowing tie rod right before the break. The tie rod end sheared.
Kevin listening to maroon 5 while driving back in shame of a broken end link to heal his broken heart Lol perfect timing Also shout out to the mosaic the only xm station that’ll play frickin play hootie and the blowfish
I think you are correct about the placement of the ram, in the slow mo you can see the tie rod bowing out forward of the vehicle. Looks like it was placing pressure both sideways and forward causing it to snap.
That’s definitely something that needs to be diagnosed, if it was faulty, imagine if you hit an unexpected pothole on the highway and that snapped? That would be an unconsolidated nightmare, I’m sure the company/manufacture will figure this problem out, thank goodness you had all that help with you. I wish I could keep a smile on my face like you guys when things break Great video you guys👍
Michael Sullivan that’s correct the weight of the vehicle was on it and thank God it snapped there, the point I was trying to make was it could’ve happened on the way home if it was already stressed and the reason I bring that up is because it happened to my best friend coming back from a trip something similar, the part is heavy duty and it broke at the stress point right where the nut is tightened. Not saying it was a bad part at all, just glad it didn’t happen unexpectedly somewhere else at high speed. Also the reason I stated the manufacturer will examine it is because they sent it back to the manufacture to do test on the metal. Happy 2022 to you✌🏻
Thanks so much for a Fantastic weekend, we pushed our Overlanding rig and earned some trail scars (the real badge of honor). We are ready for the next adventure.
Thanks for the post mortem on the tie rod break. You assessment about the angle on the steering assist ram makes a lot of sense with regards to the vector of force applied to the end of the tie rod. The break does look like a structural flaw in the lattice of the steel though so your suspicion that it could have been multiple factors sees very plausible. I hope you will update us on what the results at the lab are.
That tie-rod was broken when you took it out of the box. It was a bad cast or a bubble or something that weakened it in that spot. That was NOT enough force to have broken a good tie-rod. I agree, Full Hydro with Heim Joints. I also agree with Jon down below, if that had happened on the highway, ???... Full on blessing for it to have happened on the trail. Nobody was injured.
These are my favorite video's, you guys and Jelly out wheeling, I hate when new "beefier" parts break sometimes bigger isn't always better, I used to have issues like that from my days off riding and racing dirt bikes.😳 I love Jelly he's an awesome trail dog!🐕👍
I love Kevin, he is a legit driver, no F's given.... lol, he gets a A+ for using his toys the way they are intended to be used... i love it, you guys rock!!!
Issue was angle he entered those two V Rocks. As he rolled into it the front Right gets forced inwards, then they turn the front Left to the right at top of boulder. You have a quality Hydro Steering - Pop!
So cool to see Kevin find wings and open up as a narrator. I know historically he has been a shy guy, certainly at first. These days sessions of trial and error with Chris and jeep shenanigans really add a new dynamic to otherwise already amazing content. Also so stoked to see that jeep trucks can handle these trails. I am inching closer and closer to trading my tacoma for a gladiator and this just gives me extra confidence to see guys tackling this sort of stuff.
I don’t even have a trail rig ( wish I did ) but I love watching your guys videos. No matter if it’s trails or your house I just enjoy the energy you guys have.
That fracture looks like a Brittle fracture where perpendicular force is applied. So your Ram set up along with the deformation of the aluminum tie rod and the length of the forged end, could have allowed enough side loading to sheer it off.
Awesomeness video....great time on the trail and had had by all.....glad everyone had a blast...unfortunate Stepchild had a boo-boo....but master tech Chris to the rescue....Becks Tj....looks awesome (maybe a walk-around in the future for more content) .....Jelly was having a blast....Brittany calm cool and collected with Kevin's unfortunate decision making that day.....egarly awaiting your next video....Safe travels
Loved the video, like to watch these kind of videos. Sorry the jeep broke that sucks but it's the first time I've seen the stepchild break during a video. It's cool so many gladiators where there, also enjoyed watching the bronco it's funny how a jeep had to pull it out. Have to say that I've never seen a dodge pickup wheeling like that, that was different and cool to see, I never would have tired it in that. Trails definitely bad on tires. Would be cool if jeep would make a gladiator Rubicon recon 392.
I have a toolmaking background using tool steels and heat treating and the grain structure of that tie rod fracture looks all kinds of wrong. It shouldn't look like a brittle casting with course grain structure like that.
The rock the tie rod was on was redirecting the hydro assist force even more towards the front of the Jeep greatly exsaserbating the non paraell pushing energy. Suspect correcting the ram force angle would allow the use of the aluminum setup. Nice trail fix btw.
I love seeing y’all film the bad with the good. Shows everyone that no matter how much money we sink in our rigs, something, somewhere can always break. It’s the nature of the beast. Happy new year 🎆 🎊 and keep keepin on guys!!
3 things…….1. We would have been staying on the Rattlesnake Canyon trail. 2. Definitely skid plates before lightbars. (Got skid plates on my Colorado; however, still working on my light install. 3. Not good when something snaps/pops whether it is on your vehicle or body.
Regardless of the power ram mounting that tie rod shouldn't have busted , you where already past the hard part it just let loose/failed... That looked like a fun trip for everyone !!
If you look at the broken material of the tie rod end, the grains look really large. If you can see different colors with the naked eye, that means the alloy materials are not finely distributed throughout the metal. Instead you get chunks of carbon and whatever else. You guys are kind of right about the angle of the ram, but that angle is no where near as much angle as the tie rod end itself. It’s own angle is what puts the most stress on itself. #straighttierodsforlife.
I love Sunday’s here in the UK cos that’s when Lite Brite upload a video 😁😁. I keep saying it but i love you guys and love to watch ur videos. I’m really into RC Rock Crawling but this is way better to watch than someone hitting the trails with a RC, never ever thought i would say that 👍🏻 You really have me hooked. Happy New Year Lite Brite and cant wait to see what is planned for 2022. 🤙🏻🤙🏻❤️❤️
12:36 is when it cracked. You can see it moving around. Just didn't snap until you were up on the rock again. I thought all Jeep owners carried extra tie rods on the trail?
@@seelafever Lol! I watched this one before I saw the vid of when it arrived. 18mo waiting for it to arrive and it broke on the "shakedown"? Admittedly it was a Kevin shakedown, but dang!
Wow I don’t think I’ve ever seen y’all break anything like that on the trail. That’s bad news for the guys who made it You should just swap the tie rod end links lol cause the actual tie rod it’s self is a beast I got slammed right on a rock and it was bent bad and just popped right back into place
When you installed the new steering components recently, I did not understand why. You did not seem to be having problems with the old setup. The new setup hangs lower. Immediately gets rammed into rocks, then breaks. I’m not impressed.
Yeah, the old tie rod had a small bend in it from us beating the crap out of it for a few years. It was still fine, though. Kevin just liked the shiny new aluminum setup & wanted to give it a shot.
If you look at the video, when you got stuck on a rock all the weight of the front of the stepchild was on the steering tie bar, you could actually see if flex, maybe that it put excessive stress on the tie rod end. Just a thought.
In the group I wheel, we have had several rod end failures, both in the tie rod and drag link, with and without ram and without any collision. All just under load
Hey kids! Another fun filled exciting 2nd., day of the new year! Yeah..., Kevin broke the Step Child's toe, but Chris will make it all better... . Great spotting again Brit...! Maybe...., 1 of these days I'll join your party of fun. You guys rock...!
That's actually pretty cool. Could have one johnny joint and accompanying hardware as a spare tierod end instead of a left and right tierod. Save some space and still get home.
I will make it out there some day. Just got to turn my daily to a project first. Plus! I want to arm wrestle Beck! YT can see me get my but kicked! Love you all and be safe! Have Fun!
Great video !! Rockin ... I learned a long time ago to stop breaking my jeeps (sponge bob and Larry ) .Lol... cost to much to fix , even though I do all my own repairs I guess if you have sponsors to help with cost its ok but daaaam' nice video kept me watching . Thanks..
From 13:30 to 14:00 the whole steering system was bent forward, the tie rod snapped at 14:00 due to too high bending moment around the vertical axis. The shape of the crack at 15:07 suggests this. Awesome trail, awesome group. Keep going :-)
I am out here in Jersey. Last two years my cross country road trip got screwed due to the COVID. Maybe this year things will work out. Hopefully you'll have a rig with Jersey tags on one of your trail adventures.
That lisence plate position was the first Brit's complain to JL and now happened with Bronco. Its because Ford engineers not subscribing Lite Brite Nations from the beginning 🤣 🤣
People say hearing a grizzly bear is scary or lions is scary which no doubt they are but man that sound is what scares me the most...not the part breaking sound but the wife responding to the part breaking sound lol
Hahahaha. Best comment ever!!
@@LiteBrite Truth.
Big shoutout to Kevin for always finding new ways to make Chris keep his job! XD
Gotta do what I can man
@@boughtnotbuiltoffroad7784 ... and you're doin' _GREAT!_ 🤘🏻
Very true!! Haha
This event was a blast! I don’t think I would have had the confidence to even attempt something like Mottino Wash without the benefit of seeing the others go before me and you guys and everyone who came along to spot for us. Thanks so much for running these events and I’d recommend them to anyone.
You did awesome!!
Mottino wash is definitely gnarly. I did it when I was on 31s and it was a struggle. Also got my first body damage on that trail.
Aluminum tierods are awesome when they show how they bend under a rock and spring back like nothing ever happened but that same flex when the front is locked and you're trying to steer over an obstacle that put loads against the wheels not only is ugly but can take the rod ends as well. Look in the video in slow motion as Kevin tries to steer driver. The passenger wheel is going driver as Kevin wants BOTH wheels to go driver , but the driver wheel gets cocked towards the inside while the tierod is flexing like a biatch. Not a fan of aluminum tierods. Yes they're big and shinny oh and they flex for sure. Bla bla bla.
“You were not suppose to do stupid sh!t today” 🤣🤣
Brittany has such a smooth touch finding just the right expression... so eloquent !!
The anti-flip on that rod end will make it weaker. But looking at where it broke, you can see some tiny voids, and a really large grain structure. Which suggest a poor forging job. They will definitely want to talk to their manufacturer.
I thought big grain too! Soon as it was shown. Like what the,,,, is that cast!?!?!? Nah no way... Kevin making the rod into a frown then sawing on it might have not helped.
All of the previous beatings.....metal never forgets. I have broke a few sector shafts that were cracked for long periods of time before failure. I have a specific technique I use to inspect after hard rides now.
Definitely overheated in the hardening process if that is supposed to be forged steel. Looks more like cast with that monster grain! This coming from a knife maker who does heat treat all the time.
@@bobbywalter5320 can you share your inspection procedure?
I think so too. Just a bad part from the beginning. The manufacturer will want to see that.
Pretty sweet you guys do trails with groups like today's video. I can see that you guys boosted some of the peoples confidence and they got to actually see what there rigs are capable of and see there new parts and money working. It would be cool for you guys to take newbies out with stock or very little upgraded vehicles. People just getting into the dirt hobby. Love all the content. Keep rocking!
Brit cracks me up "Kevin you weren't supposed to do dumb things today" I love it.
Pretty easy to see, the rod ends are way too long. They need to be as short as possible and the big beafy ally bar needs to be as long as possible, giving just enough length to the rod ends for adjustment. The way it it there's massive leverage against the thread on the rod end, which is so much narrower and weaker than the rest of it.
My Barnes aluminum steering linkage uses a longer aluminum bar and shorter tierod ends. I do like to see how much flex is in the aluminum bars when compared to the steel bars and not stay deformed. They always bounce back in to stock form.
@@toddhoffmaster6057 Barnes stuff is just good. It’s that simple
I broke my aluminum fusion on the Rubicon and I don't think I was doing really that much to it it broke right where the rod end goes in to the aluminum bar. It has a lifetime warranty so they did send me out a new bar and the tie rod ends I got are inch and a half offset and I guess they make a 2 inch offset . I think I'll keep my inch and a half offset. 👌
Had the best time with all of you. Thanks again so much for all of your help. I learned a ton.
So happy you joined us and had a blast!! You did great!! 😊🤙
Excellent. Good at 12:20, 24:20. Back way to Big Bear. Many pretty stock jeeps did really good. Thanks for sharing.
Watching the video, you can see the toe going in before it breaks. Lots of weight was on that tie rod before it broke
Your team gets to have some of the most fun. Living in midwest we are flat and muddy. My wife is happy we don't live out west because I would be right there with you! You 2 are living the life of fun and adventure. Be safe
I foresee Brit giving Kevin a lot of shit for a while about snapping the brand new tie rod. lol keep on truckin guys
New just means not used, it does not mean it is good. Have a Happy New Year and stay safe and healthy.
Jelly sighting!!!!!
Here at 4wheelparts we carry front and rear bumpers for the Broncos
What a great trail for your group, Escape roads to cater for different abilities in driver and/or vehicle. Added to this the briliant communication to the spotters, fantastic stuff. letting the driver what theyre about to feel at each corner. But remember, rock sliders before light bars. Because everyone is going to be tackling 4 foot rocks... As a side notem those Gladiators look amazing, the 9 year old in me wants one.
Great video. Love the diversity of vehicles. Little trail break,no worries!! Still a great day. Thanks for sharing guys
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What’s up at the beginning I saw an XJ! That’s what I have and love it! Yet we didn’t see any video of him crawling!! But there was video and f him saving other people and winch towing them out!! Give some XJ love peeps!!
What a blast! (Or should I say “Pop!). Poor Kevin - that look of a kid getting scolded, by momma Brittney. Fantastic group and rigs! Enjoyed seeing the Dodge Truck! Built it, Wheel it,Break it, fix it! That’s what friends are for. We need the rest of this trip! LiteBriteNationPopRocks!
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Thankfully there was plenty of competent help to get you back on the trail. Everybody did great and Jelly had a blast too.
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We need a "short" of Jelly biting the stick in ultra slow motion...yeah 😁👍
Happy New Year!!!He said that was a sucky spot , pop 😬 it's great to see Jelly doing her part helping out with trail maintenance , she's amazing!!!!♥️♥️💯🤙
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@@LiteBrite how old is Jelly ?
Bad heat treat is what I'm going with.
Great video!!!!!!!!! Nice to see the ladies out their riding!
One of the few times it’s left you stranded! Crazy to see those gladiators kicking ass out there
Watching the video, I think when your front end fell off that rock it stressed that tie rod. You fell right onto the tie rod, it bent a good two to three inches, making the weak point that driver-side tie rod end. You came down fairly hard, and that was a lot of weight transferred to the end. So, while that wasn't a particularly harder obstacle than anything else you have ever done... you were at a really weird articulation angle there and your spotter was not making it any easier for you.
Dear Brittany, I get so enthused by your lil videos that I forget Kevins default is to try break everything,
but on this occasion he just proved that untested is just that !
Great to see a succesful event with a little jelly love too 😊😉
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The goodyears on the bronco look like they hook up good
A couple of points from an armchair engineer.
The rod end with the fracture mode appears to be extremely hard, as in overly hardened during heat treating.
Not having the tie rod in hand for inspection, however high stress parts that are threaded don't use a cut thread but a rolled thread. The root of the thread is a stress riser on a cut thread, while a rolled thread reforms the material.
The rod end appears very beefy, even larger than rod ends on military off-road 5 or 7 ton trucks.
Love those Gladiators. When Brit says no stupid stuff today, you did it perfect. Wait till she's not looking and go do man stuff. You kids are awesome. It is beautiful to see the fun you have together.
@14:49 - I cracked up so bad I started tearing up a wee bit - "Momma bear laying down the reality!" Good stuff!
It's 100% the placement of the hydro assist. The video shows exactly what happened. The aluminum tie rod is visibly bowing because of the force applied by the HA. Kevins driver side wheel is towed in because of the bowing tie rod right before the break. The tie rod end sheared.
Yep - definitely can see the tie rod flexing forward right before the snap...
Kevin listening to maroon 5 while driving back in shame of a broken end link to heal his broken heart
Lol perfect timing
Also shout out to the mosaic the only xm station that’ll play frickin play hootie and the blowfish
I think you are correct about the placement of the ram, in the slow mo you can see the tie rod bowing out forward of the vehicle. Looks like it was placing pressure both sideways and forward causing it to snap.
18:31 Best line ever. " You're gonna back up, get a Jeep and then come forward"
Awesome showing from all of you.
That’s definitely something that needs to be diagnosed, if it was faulty, imagine if you hit an unexpected pothole on the highway and that snapped? That would be an unconsolidated nightmare, I’m sure the company/manufacture will figure this problem out, thank goodness you had all that help with you. I wish I could keep a smile on my face like you guys when things break Great video you guys👍
The whole weight of the jeep was on it. It wouldn't snap from just a pot hole. You can watch it bend before it breaks
Michael Sullivan that’s correct the weight of the vehicle was on it and thank God it snapped there, the point I was trying to make was it could’ve happened on the way home if it was already stressed and the reason I bring that up is because it happened to my best friend coming back from a trip something similar, the part is heavy duty and it broke at the stress point right where the nut is tightened. Not saying it was a bad part at all, just glad it didn’t happen unexpectedly somewhere else at high speed. Also the reason I stated the manufacturer will examine it is because they sent it back to the manufacture to do test on the metal. Happy 2022 to you✌🏻
Thanks so much for a Fantastic weekend, we pushed our Overlanding rig and earned some trail scars (the real badge of honor). We are ready for the next adventure.
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Kudos to the gal with the manual👍👍
Thanks for the post mortem on the tie rod break. You assessment about the angle on the steering assist ram makes a lot of sense with regards to the vector of force applied to the end of the tie rod. The break does look like a structural flaw in the lattice of the steel though so your suspicion that it could have been multiple factors sees very plausible. I hope you will update us on what the results at the lab are.
If we get an update on the broken pieces, we’ll definitely update!
@@LiteBrite Thanks!
That tie-rod was broken when you took it out of the box. It was a bad cast or a bubble or something that weakened it in that spot. That was NOT enough force to have broken a good tie-rod. I agree, Full Hydro with Heim Joints. I also agree with Jon down below, if that had happened on the highway, ???... Full on blessing for it to have happened on the trail. Nobody was injured.
Full hydro on the street is not a good idea.
It’s supposedly a forged piece, but we sent it back to them so they could have a metallurgist analyze it
It isn't "full hydro" so...
@@jakeweber9787 No, but some people were suggesting a switch to full hydro.
@@jakeweber9787 reread the original comment bro
These are my favorite video's, you guys and Jelly out wheeling, I hate when new "beefier" parts break sometimes bigger isn't always better, I used to have issues like that from my days off riding and racing dirt bikes.😳 I love Jelly he's an awesome trail dog!🐕👍
We use old fire hose to shield hydraulic lines at work. Very abrasive resistant stuff!
I love Kevin, he is a legit driver, no F's given.... lol, he gets a A+ for using his toys the way they are intended to be used... i love it, you guys rock!!!
Issue was angle he entered those two V Rocks. As he rolled into it the front Right gets forced inwards, then they turn the front Left to the right at top of boulder. You have a quality Hydro Steering - Pop!
Perfect execution, "Hey Kevin, you mind moving cuz that's the line I was gonna take..." "Is it? Sorry..." 👌🤣
So cool to see Kevin find wings and open up as a narrator. I know historically he has been a shy guy, certainly at first. These days sessions of trial and error with Chris and jeep shenanigans really add a new dynamic to otherwise already amazing content.
Also so stoked to see that jeep trucks can handle these trails. I am inching closer and closer to trading my tacoma for a gladiator and this just gives me extra confidence to see guys tackling this sort of stuff.
I don’t even have a trail rig ( wish I did ) but I love watching your guys videos. No matter if it’s trails or your house I just enjoy the energy you guys have.
That's so awesome that you are teaching so many people first hand how to correctly hit the trails : )
yes how to correctly break a tierod by dragging it across a rock.. haha
@@leokeffalas3143 LOL!!!
That fracture looks like a Brittle fracture where perpendicular force is applied. So your Ram set up along with the deformation of the aluminum tie rod and the length of the forged end, could have allowed enough side loading to sheer it off.
Nice to see the xj climbing. I'd like to see a mix of newer jeeps and broncos as well as some older Cherokees or Toyotas in your vids.
Awesomeness video....great time on the trail and had had by all.....glad everyone had a blast...unfortunate Stepchild had a boo-boo....but master tech Chris to the rescue....Becks Tj....looks awesome (maybe a walk-around in the future for more content) .....Jelly was having a blast....Brittany calm cool and collected with Kevin's unfortunate decision making that day.....egarly awaiting your next video....Safe travels
You're very old
Loved the video, like to watch these kind of videos. Sorry the jeep broke that sucks but it's the first time I've seen the stepchild break during a video. It's cool so many gladiators where there, also enjoyed watching the bronco it's funny how a jeep had to pull it out. Have to say that I've never seen a dodge pickup wheeling like that, that was different and cool to see, I never would have tired it in that. Trails definitely bad on tires. Would be cool if jeep would make a gladiator Rubicon recon 392.
Haha Kevin “because it’s the harder way”.
I have a toolmaking background using tool steels and heat treating and the grain structure of that tie rod fracture looks all kinds of wrong. It shouldn't look like a brittle casting with course grain structure like that.
You can’t blame the tie rod. How many times did Kevin smack the tie rod on that rock before it broke?
I mean his previous one held up well
Our old tie rod held up to hundreds of hits like this or worse without any issues, though.
Bad ass.
I never would never have guessed that that that tie rod would break like that. It is huge.
I have watched enough forged and fire and I can say the heat treat was not right lol love the video
Aww ☺️
Your Jeeps trying to fit in with your new bronco😂
Crazy cool trail. Bummer broken parts but it happens.
The rock the tie rod was on was redirecting the hydro assist force even more towards the front of the Jeep greatly exsaserbating the non paraell pushing energy. Suspect correcting the ram force angle would allow the use of the aluminum setup. Nice trail fix btw.
I love seeing y’all film the bad with the good. Shows everyone that no matter how much money we sink in our rigs, something, somewhere can always break. It’s the nature of the beast. Happy new year 🎆 🎊 and keep keepin on guys!!
3 things…….1. We would have been staying on the Rattlesnake Canyon trail. 2. Definitely skid plates before lightbars. (Got skid plates on my Colorado; however, still working on my light install. 3. Not good when something snaps/pops whether it is on your vehicle or body.
Way to go Bronco!!!!
Happy New Year y’all!! Exited to see this awesome channel grow in 2022,cheers y’all!!
Happy New Year!
Regardless of the power ram mounting that tie rod shouldn't have busted , you where already past the hard part it just let loose/failed... That looked like a fun trip for everyone !!
The camera cut from their 2in thick tie rod to the Broncos .0005 inch thick one was kinda funny
If you look at the point just before it broke you can see the ram pushing the link away from the knuckle
🤣🤣🤣 Kevin's face when Brit said what did he snap! right after telling him they agree not to do dumm sh17 😅.
If you look at the broken material of the tie rod end, the grains look really large. If you can see different colors with the naked eye, that means the alloy materials are not finely distributed throughout the metal. Instead you get chunks of carbon and whatever else. You guys are kind of right about the angle of the ram, but that angle is no where near as much angle as the tie rod end itself. It’s own angle is what puts the most stress on itself. #straighttierodsforlife.
I love Sunday’s here in the UK cos that’s when Lite Brite upload a video 😁😁. I keep saying it but i love you guys and love to watch ur videos. I’m really into RC Rock Crawling but this is way better to watch than someone hitting the trails with a RC, never ever thought i would say that 👍🏻
You really have me hooked. Happy New Year Lite Brite and cant wait to see what is planned for 2022. 🤙🏻🤙🏻❤️❤️
Well, that looked fun, it's nice to see people using their off-roaders for what they were meant for...
12:36 is when it cracked. You can see it moving around. Just didn't snap until you were up on the rock again. I thought all Jeep owners carried extra tie rods on the trail?
Oh yeah, saw it crack right when he came off of the rock.
Good catch. I thought it probably got weakened when the center of the rod was being irresponsibly banged against the rock :)
@@seelafever Lol! I watched this one before I saw the vid of when it arrived. 18mo waiting for it to arrive and it broke on the "shakedown"? Admittedly it was a Kevin shakedown, but dang!
Bronco tactics getting better.
I seriously can’t wait for my bronco to come in so I can join on the next take over! Major FOMO after seeing this video take place near my hometown!
Just because it’s new it will snap on that kind of angle. Crazy 😜
Wow I don’t think I’ve ever seen y’all break anything like that on the trail. That’s bad news for the guys who made it
You should just swap the tie rod end links lol cause the actual tie rod it’s self is a beast I got slammed right on a rock and it was bent bad and just popped right back into place
When you installed the new steering components recently, I did not understand why. You did not seem to be having problems with the old setup. The new setup hangs lower. Immediately gets rammed into rocks, then breaks. I’m not impressed.
Yeah, the old tie rod had a small bend in it from us beating the crap out of it for a few years. It was still fine, though. Kevin just liked the shiny new aluminum setup & wanted to give it a shot.
If you look at the video, when you got stuck on a rock all the weight of the front of the stepchild was on the steering tie bar, you could actually see if flex, maybe that it put excessive stress on the tie rod end. Just a thought.
The one positive thing I noticed is that that center link has a ton of flex to it. If that was a steel bar, it would have bent.
In the group I wheel, we have had several rod end failures, both in the tie rod and drag link, with and without ram and without any collision. All just under load
Hey kids! Another fun filled exciting 2nd., day of the new year!
Yeah..., Kevin broke the Step Child's toe, but Chris will make it all better... .
Great spotting again Brit...! Maybe...., 1 of these days I'll join your party of fun.
You guys rock...!
Damn, I was hoping to be the Bronco that ran that first with you guys lol. At least he didn't break his steering
Thanks Kevin for the size up at the end of this vid. 👍✌️
I love that Chis repeats himself so calmly lol and that Kev is just like o well all in good fun. You guys are awesome.
Had zero issues with the “LA Dodgers” license plate being ripped off. 🤟🤯
That's why I always set my assist rams to push out near the tie rod end near the knuckle and not in the centre of the tie rod bar just bowing it
Also, good to see the Ram and other long LWB vehicles take the challenge.
That's actually pretty cool. Could have one johnny joint and accompanying hardware as a spare tierod end instead of a left and right tierod. Save some space and still get home.
I will make it out there some day. Just got to turn my daily to a project first. Plus! I want to arm wrestle Beck! YT can see me get my but kicked! Love you all and be safe! Have Fun!
Great video !! Rockin ... I learned a long time ago to stop breaking my jeeps (sponge bob and Larry ) .Lol... cost to much to fix , even though I do all my own repairs I guess if you have sponsors to help with cost its ok but daaaam' nice video kept me watching . Thanks..
From 13:30 to 14:00 the whole steering system was bent forward, the tie rod snapped at 14:00 due to too high bending moment around the vertical axis. The shape of the crack at 15:07 suggests this. Awesome trail, awesome group. Keep going :-)
Geeez Chris not only gets to work with Bec, he gets to wheel with her too, the lucky dog!
Looks like so much fun. Great group of people.👍👍
I am out here in Jersey. Last two years my cross country road trip got screwed due to the COVID. Maybe this year things will work out. Hopefully you'll have a rig with Jersey tags on one of your trail adventures.
It always amazes what the nearly stock Jeeps will go through. Thanks for the vid.
That lisence plate position was the first Brit's complain to JL and now happened with Bronco. Its because Ford engineers not subscribing Lite Brite Nations from the beginning 🤣 🤣
Back to the drawing board for RPM! It wasn't ready for severe off roading yet! That sucks breaking down on the trail. Happy Trails to all of you!
You know nothing about Rpm but ok
@@gustafpeyron Your right, I know nothing about them at all. I've seen all I need to see.
@@richsmith3120 yea because one anecdotal break tells all, doesn't it?
@@gustafpeyron It does when your out in the middle of no where. Happy Trails to you!
@@richsmith3120💀💀💀
i love how calm chris is throughout it
Job security :D