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  • @SandmanofTerra
    @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +45

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    • @thedevourer.
      @thedevourer. Год назад +1

      Did they not add 2 more books to his series?

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +2

      @@thedevourer. This is from the final book, mostly

    • @thedevourer.
      @thedevourer. Год назад +1

      ​@@SandmanofTerraI might be thinking of the dawn of fire series, I like watching your vids even though I've read all the books 🤙🏽

    • @garygreen5632
      @garygreen5632 Год назад

      It would have been interesting to see if a clone of the emperor on an iron throne could have reduce the drain of Dark eldar souls. Theoretically this could have reduced the frequency of raids, maintained the imperial iron throne as well as further contained the warp. But probably with some pretty hefty unforeseen issues.

    • @EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE
      @EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE Год назад

      Great story!

  • @michaelbraxton137
    @michaelbraxton137 Год назад +1555

    One tear from sly marbo can revive the the emperor but the problem is sly marbo doesn't cry

    • @usurparemagnus
      @usurparemagnus Год назад +89

      Then sly better start chopping some onions 😂

    • @biscuittaster5720
      @biscuittaster5720 Год назад +84

      They say under sly marbos beard is just another fist

    • @antilivvy7373
      @antilivvy7373 Год назад +16

      ​@@biscuittaster5720what do you think happened to his old hand?

    • @jonathancrowl8091
      @jonathancrowl8091 Год назад

      @michaelbraxton137 your a different breed 😂

    • @CHRF-55457
      @CHRF-55457 Год назад +36

      I think im pretty sure i heard somewhere that Trazyn the Infinite could revive the Emperor and fix the throne or something. Idk. All i mostly remember was just Trazyn speculating that he could probably do a better job of keeping the Emperor alive than the Imperium. He also speculated on kidnapping the Emperor too.

  • @thepunisher3640
    @thepunisher3640 Год назад +209

    Imagine if all that was needed to fix the golden throne was a stick of gum and a can of WD-40 but the mechanicum had no idea how to make either.

    • @corrupt1user
      @corrupt1user 11 месяцев назад +17

      I'm quite sure that the Adeptus Mechanicus's Holy Oils include generous amounts of WD-40.

    • @robrotron2084
      @robrotron2084 10 месяцев назад +11

      Have they tried turning it off and on? That usually works.

    • @2akratos637
      @2akratos637 10 месяцев назад +3

      How about kicking it?

    • @jim4695
      @jim4695 9 месяцев назад +3

      If only the STC for Platyrhynchos striped bonding composite had been rediscovered...

    • @Argumemnon
      @Argumemnon 9 месяцев назад

      Lost technology from the dark age?

  • @christianwarrior3169
    @christianwarrior3169 Год назад +203

    Love how the custodes were immediately cycling up their weapons as soon as they understood the implications of this they were straight up ready to kill no questions

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +19

      It's a cool moment

    • @christianwarrior3169
      @christianwarrior3169 Год назад +31

      @@SandmanofTerra I love it and custodes reaction to any small threat to the emperor is so anyways I started blasting and I'm all for it

  • @ThatOneAudioTeam
    @ThatOneAudioTeam Год назад +459

    Knowing that the capital city of the Dark Elves is literally holding on by a thread from daemonic incursions despite being a near impenetrable fortress fills me with a maniacal joy.

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +62

      You're a good imperial soldier!

    • @larrywilliams3313
      @larrywilliams3313 Год назад +63

      It fills me with maniacal dread. For, if the Drukhari, with all the relentless might of their dark genius and the unrivaled strength of their boundless creative powers, can't hold back the daemonic attacks against their most fortified and protected citadel, then the Imperium has no chance whatsoever. May the Emperor's protective light shine brightly forever upon Terra.

    • @voodooaudio9488
      @voodooaudio9488 Год назад

      Actually they are less competent at it than humans are. Their souls already belong to Slaanesh, and they are deeply corrupted + absolutely terrified of chaos at this point. Fa more than human forces are. Drukhari have a very complicated relationship with chaos, and I guess it affects their ability to fight it efficiently@@larrywilliams3313

    • @BigMikeMcBastard
      @BigMikeMcBastard Год назад

      @@larrywilliams3313 They can't hold back the daemons because Commorragh exists in the Webway and after the Great Rift opened, areas daemons could get through to the city also opened. Fortunately the Imperium doesn't exist in the Webway and what happens to the drukhari is pretty much completely irrelevant to the Imperium.

    • @tristanmitchell1242
      @tristanmitchell1242 Год назад +40

      ​@larrywilliams3313 The worst part is that the Emperor can beat any demonic legion. The Emperor would heal near-instantly if he got off the throne (he is a Perpetual, after all, and his original wound is no longer chaos-tainted...or in existence). However, getting up would turn off the Astronomicon, leaving all of Humanity outside of Terra, or perhaps the whole Sol system, to the predations of Chaos.

  • @davidwilliam9681
    @davidwilliam9681 Год назад +225

    Too bad they didn't plan ahead and trick the Dark Eldar by scrubbing all of the Emperor's DNA. They could have planted someone else's DNA to really mess with the Dark Eldar.

    • @benwilliams3539
      @benwilliams3539 Год назад +44

      That'd be awesome. Replace it with some rat or mould DNA as an insult

    • @antonioj700
      @antonioj700 Год назад +12

      Like a sick baseline person.😂😂😂

    • @kharnthebetrayer1575
      @kharnthebetrayer1575 Год назад +3

      Magnus!!!

    • @DARKthenoble
      @DARKthenoble Год назад +8

      A random felinid, them abnohumans don't get enough love as is.

    • @g.sergiusfidenas6650
      @g.sergiusfidenas6650 Год назад +23

      Wonder if giving the DNA of a Chaos Space Marine could be like some sort of Trojan Horse for Chaos to enter their lovely city, I guess the genetic material of one of the traitor Primarchs (even if collected before they fell) could be used that way but who knows if it would be wise to give those sort of toys to those abominations.

  • @nohrianscum9791
    @nohrianscum9791 Год назад +840

    The Drukhari had ulterior motives in a deal they made? Who could have guessed?!

    • @orangensafttee4598
      @orangensafttee4598 Год назад +44

      sometimes the high lords are just like the tau

    • @BambiBreaker
      @BambiBreaker Год назад +12

      Say whaaaaaaaaat

    • @imapopo2924
      @imapopo2924 Год назад

      ​@@orangensafttee4598To be fair, a potential solution to a cataclysmic problem makes it easy to overlook potential pitfalls.

    • @ale_9891
      @ale_9891 Год назад

      yes they are probably so used to yes-man and convinced of their superiority that they underestimate anyone and believe that everything is due to them

    • @leonelimalevu7302
      @leonelimalevu7302 Год назад +7

      ​@@orangensafttee4598who else could they have turned to?

  • @LutherMahoney
    @LutherMahoney Год назад +141

    First. This is Heresy.

    • @sauron6299
      @sauron6299 Год назад +6

      Agreed

    • @Brorhie_Onome
      @Brorhie_Onome Год назад +12

      Summon the inquisition, summon the black Templars there is a heretic to prosecute.

    • @Randalf.
      @Randalf. Год назад +6

      Purge the heresy!!!!!!!

    • @usermanico
      @usermanico Год назад +3

      Second. France

    • @internetuser320
      @internetuser320 Год назад +5

      Second. Exterminatus

  • @quinngros5651
    @quinngros5651 Год назад +326

    And a Necron walks into the throne room, with a strange box in one hand and a spinning conglomerate of all sorts of tools, as the other hand. As he walks up to throne, no device, he says, "You've seen a tough 10,000 years. Haven't you?", but he wasn't talking to the Emperor Corpse. He was talking to the damn machine. Out of his tool hand comes a wire that links up with the throne. He laughs, and then he jokingly says, "Is that's what all the fuss is about?". He walks around to the back of the throne, gets down on his knees, and bends over. And, just like an ancient plumber looked, he has a split where a human's ass would be, but you can only see the top of the split. The rest is covered up with his clothing. Within minutes, he pops up, starts waving his tool hand, as if as a jester of goodbye, and says, " See you in another 10,000 years...lol!!!". And, all was, well.

    • @henryviiifake8244
      @henryviiifake8244 Год назад +67

      Average field day for Trayzn 😂

    • @thehetz5111
      @thehetz5111 Год назад +98

      Funny how so much detail went into explaining the necrons ass crack lol

    • @KermRiv
      @KermRiv Год назад +23

      @@henryviiifake8244 funny how that's who my mind went to immediately when it said the words necron and throne room in the same sentence.

    • @Blandy8521
      @Blandy8521 Год назад +28

      I honestly wouldn't put it past Trazyn to have a deal with the emperor to preserve humanity's greatest should anything happen to them in return for not stealing the throne but repairing it

    • @jerethgryphon4244
      @jerethgryphon4244 Год назад +5

      They should have talked to necrons

  • @jestinjeffries9430
    @jestinjeffries9430 Год назад +222

    Another really great trilogy by Black Library. I really enjoyed these books, it really gave us a good behind the scenes look at the Golden Throne and how complex it is and the scale of it.

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +13

      I loved it! Thought the insights into life on Terra were also fascinating

    • @jestinjeffries9430
      @jestinjeffries9430 Год назад +9

      @@SandmanofTerra I agree as well it was fascinating to read about the unhealthy grey skin color and overall base level of sickness on Tera, as well as the generalized examples of life on Tera. I eagerly await the next book in the series to see where they are going to go with this next. As well as how it plays out within the rest of the current setting.

    • @Drakon345
      @Drakon345 Год назад +1

      What books can i read for this?

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +2

      @@Drakon345 the Vaults of Terra series by Chris wraight

    • @matan8074
      @matan8074 Год назад

      ​@jestinjeffries9430 I am pretty sure the series is finished.

  • @booga6643
    @booga6643 Год назад +118

    the levels of heresy is unreal

  • @PJOZeus
    @PJOZeus Год назад +335

    Given how that machine works, it wouldn’t just clone the emperor, it would steal him from the imperium, it would take his soul
    Although that being said as well, being sat on the throne alone is not enough to staunch the flow - it is by the emperors will that Terra is protected, and by the emperors will he is under no obligation to defend the xenos

    • @mosessingleton7553
      @mosessingleton7553 Год назад +45

      Exactly, and the emperor is well aware of this treachery, and by his very will, this will not occur for his loyalty lives in Terra and Terra alone. 💯

    • @jc7997aj
      @jc7997aj Год назад +19

      They'd have been smart to let them clone Emps. Then he'd be brand new.

    • @PJOZeus
      @PJOZeus Год назад +45

      @@jc7997aj and Terra would be flooded with Daemons from his toddlers webway, the astronomicon would go dark and countless ships would be lost, many worlds would starve with their supply ships lost, and of course no reinforcing regiments could make it to the frontlines around the imperium allowing the xenos to progress on every front no matter how desperately critical
      Sounds great

    • @jc7997aj
      @jc7997aj Год назад +11

      @@PJOZeus ok ok Debbie downer. Maybe it wasn't such a good idea. 😕.

    • @Tora1337
      @Tora1337 Год назад +10

      @@jc7997aj But just as with Horus, it would not be the same. A shadowy abomination of the same.

  • @2guys1cliplol
    @2guys1cliplol Год назад +102

    Also in regards to the dark eldar. Not only are they fighting the demons in the tear but there is also a genestealer cult growing in the Dark City as well and even tho it is known it hasn't been purged or even fought yet as far as im aware. I also think a few Lectors got lose from the area pits as well. Only a matter if tike before the hivemind gose looking for webway gates 😮

    • @leonhardable
      @leonhardable Год назад

      oh boy finally theyre gonna get their ass whooped instead of the empire doing the same retarded mistakes over and over again 😂
      cant wait for a "well well well how the turntables have turned" moment for a lictor in the dark city

    • @3kojimbles895
      @3kojimbles895 Год назад +7

      they probably keep them there for a new kind of torture ngl

    • @2guys1cliplol
      @2guys1cliplol Год назад +3

      @3kojimbles895 it's actually more hilarious than that actually

  • @kevinknight287
    @kevinknight287 Год назад +30

    "Yes, we've already had one, but what about second Emperor?" -Inquisitor Pippin

  • @abdalazeezaswib3107
    @abdalazeezaswib3107 Год назад +118

    Really loving these longer formatted videos
    Also congrats on getting a sponsorship you really deserve it bud

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +9

      Glad you like them! Thanks man!

    • @GeronimoPlaz
      @GeronimoPlaz Год назад +1

      ​@@SandmanofTerraI love how you preface your ad with it giving you the capability to get away with committing conspiracy lol

  • @ricardowashington4447
    @ricardowashington4447 Год назад +52

    Could the throne be Necron tech with a horrible purpose. Given that it is really good at drawing psycher energy and focusing it, could it have been initially meant to drain Eldari and power a weapon? Could it be meant to consolidate Eldari soul energies to give renewed life to a Necron lord, thereby reversing biotransference?

    • @KonRoge11
      @KonRoge11 Год назад +16

      Huh. Not a bad idea. What with Necrons being space Egyptians, I wouldn’t be surprised if their pre-transference tech looked more glorious than the gloom it currently adopts.

    • @lordgod9958
      @lordgod9958 Год назад +5

      I don't think the psychic drain would make sense as a method of restoring life but the battery theory is quite plausible. Issue is what or who would power it? An eldar god?

    • @crowe6961
      @crowe6961 Год назад +3

      @@lordgod9958 Captured C'Tan shard? They have quite a few.

    • @lordgod9958
      @lordgod9958 Год назад +1

      @@crowe6961 ctan don't use the warp

    • @yorgenibnstrangle3072
      @yorgenibnstrangle3072 Год назад +6

      The authors intentionally make it ambiguous as to what tech it is. Most likely, it is a mix of Eldar and Old ones tech. Because it works with using psychic energy.

  • @Ikxi
    @Ikxi Год назад +68

    15:50 YOU HAVE BEEN DECEIVED
    FOR ANOTHER THRONE WAS MADE

  • @cgavin1
    @cgavin1 Год назад +11

    "What price?"
    "19 billion innocents."
    ".."
    "Sir, 200 billion would perish instantly if the Throne fails. Projections suggest quadrillions if Sol is consumed. From there it gets worse."
    "Woe unto Planet XYZ."
    "Indeed."

  • @bonitabromeliads
    @bonitabromeliads Год назад +45

    Imperium would have to align with the necrons to defeat chaos if the throne fails. Necrons could extract a rather large payment for aiding humanity in their war. It would be a first born child kind of deal, necron minds transferred into human babies to regain their souls and lose their mortality. Necrons would essentially homogenize with humans creating an ultimate power in the galaxy.

    • @dahn57
      @dahn57 Год назад +7

      I could see an alliance between the two anyway, it's happened before

    • @KalashVodka175
      @KalashVodka175 10 месяцев назад +1

      It'd be a cool plot tbh

    • @brain772
      @brain772 8 месяцев назад +1

      ultimately humanity and the necron don't really have any big conflicts between them at least not to the extent the aeldar and necron do

  • @MSpotatoes
    @MSpotatoes Год назад +18

    It's OK because the Age of Not Very Good Stuff will probably be followed by the Age of Some Pretty Cool Stuff. 😎

  • @kccustodes2618
    @kccustodes2618 Год назад +39

    One of the biggest plot points in lore and it's been forgotten. Grest job, love this content.

    • @AmbroReality
      @AmbroReality 10 месяцев назад

      What is this "grim darkness of far future" he spoke of and why/how did drukhari kill all those members of custodes, mechanicus and inquisition? Is this part not explained and just presume all killed "somehow" since no one ever returned?

  • @nobobonobo
    @nobobonobo Год назад +94

    If all the dark eldar need is a sample of the emperor, can't they just use some grey knight blood?

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +51

      Need a purer source I guess

    • @quisqueyancomrade4968
      @quisqueyancomrade4968 Год назад +35

      Using their blood would probably only bring the grey knight himself not big E
      If they could synthesize it and separate the samples thr sure(?)

    • @nobobonobo
      @nobobonobo Год назад

      @@SandmanofTerra what's purer than a grey knight? What was in those sarcophagi? The emperor's biological children o maybe his cumsocks?

    • @muzanjackson8827
      @muzanjackson8827 Год назад +14

      @@quisqueyancomrade4968Ah, but you forget the whole purpose of Gene Seed. Gene Seed is more the genes of the source than the current bearer, and although it would be slightly tainted by inferior genes, the drukhari are desperate. Maybe that tiny amount of taint is too much, and the clone would be too unstable? We'll never know, I guess.

    • @AxolotlInMC
      @AxolotlInMC Год назад +4

      Still don't buy that they really use geneseed from the Emperor Himself.

  • @dachshundsarethebest
    @dachshundsarethebest Год назад +27

    This feels like heresy dawg

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +4

      Yummy

    • @ohamatchhams
      @ohamatchhams Год назад

      I would take """heretical""" plotlines that moves the story forwards into something newer and refreshing with stakes and eventual conclusion (sooner or later) over stagnating storyline that doesn't develops anything to 40K's End Times
      And just like Alfabusa's TTS 40K Emperor to the redeemed Magnus' jokes, there's needs of movements and progressions to achieve goals instead of going around and around and around like a poor dementia patient in dire need of treatment

    • @legion6211
      @legion6211 Год назад

      ​@@ohamatchhamsbut the emperor is

  • @WakingDreamer01
    @WakingDreamer01 Год назад +78

    Do you think this series will come around and touch upon the *_Terminus Decree?_* It is the Grey Knights most guarded and mysterious artefact. A sacred parchment with a rare seal/insignia that cannot be found anywhere else in the Imperium EXCEPT on the Golden Throne!
    If the Golden Throne holds back the warp and an endless tide of Daemons - but is now failing; then maybe the incorruptible Daemon-hunters with the Terminus Decree is the key to saving the day...?!

    • @awaisahmad1602
      @awaisahmad1602 Год назад +2

      Spoilers from Horus Heresy Series:
      According to the Horus Heresy Series, the Terminus Decree concerns the anti-astartes phage developed by the mad scientist Basilio Fo. The information was gathered by Malcador the Sigillite and telepathically passed onto his Chosen, Khalid Hassan. So it's like a kill switch for the astartes.

    • @engine.projects2114
      @engine.projects2114 Год назад

      Spoiler Alert - The terminus decree is nothing more than a biological weapon that destroys gene seed. A last resort, a ultimate weapon to undo the Emperor's work and destroy all Astartes. Traitors and loyalists alike. No idea how that could help against Drukhari.

    • @thecommentguy9380
      @thecommentguy9380 Год назад

      the decree is instructions to release a virus that will kill ALL astartes in the galaxy

    • @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886
      @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 Год назад

      The Terminus Decree has been revealed to actually release a Bio Weapon that liquefy all beings carrying Astartes DNA in the Universe.

    • @lordgod9958
      @lordgod9958 Год назад +10

      My recollection was that it's heavily implied terminus decree was valdor's genetic nuclear bomb from the horus heresy books. They never explicitly connect the two but it would make sense the knights errant as the successors to malcador would inherit that knowledge before later becoming the inquisition and Grey knighta

  • @Thought_Processing_
    @Thought_Processing_ Год назад +63

    I thought they were going to clone the emperor and draw his soul to the new body on commoragh. Honestly if that happens Emps could get a new fully healed body

    • @thecommentguy9380
      @thecommentguy9380 Год назад +28

      it's the drukhari, they wont fully clone the emperor, only just enough to make sure they can make a puppet that siphons the actual emperor's power to seal the rift in their city

    • @legion6211
      @legion6211 Год назад

      ​@@thecommentguy9380Won't work. Big e says no and atomic shits himself

    • @implodingllama2092
      @implodingllama2092 Год назад +7

      Programmatically you’re correct. However the imperium are all zealots, so they will never allow that level of heresy to take place

    • @thecommentguy9380
      @thecommentguy9380 Год назад +7

      @@implodingllama2092 you also need to consider that their contact is the drukhari, since they never follow any deals to the letter

  • @hccdgvvfccdgn993
    @hccdgvvfccdgn993 Год назад +23

    Well the emperors palace was said to be the size of Denmark

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade Год назад +13

      I thought it covered most of central Asia, including the Tibetan mountains.

    • @DeathInTheSnow
      @DeathInTheSnow Год назад +15

      I heard it has just as many bicycles too.

    • @cegesh1459
      @cegesh1459 Год назад

      ​@@inthefadeCorrect.

    • @mosessingleton7553
      @mosessingleton7553 Год назад +1

      ​@@DeathInTheSnow😂

  • @steve43ful
    @steve43ful Год назад +14

    This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!

  • @JeremyVTS
    @JeremyVTS Год назад +34

    The end of the dark city was one of the most grimdark endings I’ve ever read

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +2

      Definitely! My boy Gorgias will make a full return though, I just know it!

    • @JeremyVTS
      @JeremyVTS Год назад +1

      @@SandmanofTerra Gorgias is an icon, I one day hope to have my cranky grandfather imbued into a hovering robot that follows me around saying what I assume is vaguely racist shit.

  • @Archon3960
    @Archon3960 11 месяцев назад +7

    This Emperor clone would fail in my opinion. For them to be perfect, it would need the Emperor's soul.
    The reason Dark Eldar cloning is so great is because the Haemonculi take their client's soul and just put it into a cloned body. Doing this with the Big E. would require extra steps. And let's just say neither the Emperor nor the Custodes are going to be stocked about this. B/

    • @joelestadella1983
      @joelestadella1983 12 дней назад

      They could probably do it from a distance, the inquisitor was losing his soul for even just getting a bit of blood mixed with the haemoncoli, imagine a customcrafted device in comorragh built just to siphon the emperors soul

  • @Gfish17
    @Gfish17 Год назад +8

    Cheap mockery of the golden throne?
    At least the Eldar can repair it.

  • @ohamatchhams
    @ohamatchhams Год назад +29

    This somewhat reminds me of Alfabusa Warhammer 40k TTS much later episodic plots of Asdrubael Vect (the supreme overlord archon of Commorragh) to utilise the Star Child possessing and overriding Fyodor Karamazov to satiate the perpetual thirst of Slaanesh into Dark Eldar's webway system and permanently shields and nourishing the entire Drukhari populations

    • @coot33
      @coot33 11 месяцев назад

      A lot of the new lores books have an Alfabusa themes to them. It is really contrast over the books and lore prior to TTS. I'd say too much ! TTS works as a satire and parody embracing it's non-cannon. That doesn't work as a lore setting for player to build there own stories.

  • @chasenovak122
    @chasenovak122 Год назад +8

    Damn, they really should’ve gone to the craftworlders. The moment I heard, “Drukhari,” at least the Craftworlders would’ve been less likely to fuck you over.

  • @eviljagtech
    @eviljagtech Год назад +19

    I swear they can bring the Emperor back without losing Terra with the "help" of the nids. The Nids are on their way to Terra and with them the bring their inherent "shadow in the warp". This will prevent Daemons from coming through the portal. If the Emperor is killed and reborn through his clone while the Nids are near Terra it would prevent Chaos from invading. This Also would bring the Emperor as the leader of man to counter the Silent King, the 4 major chaos gods, the Hive Mind. I don't GW will do it, but the pieces are there to make it happen and cleanly. Also, Guilliman could maybe win a fight against a major player in the Nids, he loses like Arhiman sometimes with only luck pulling him out, see his fight with Magnus or Mortarian.

    • @kashifahmed3752
      @kashifahmed3752 Год назад

      Szarekh is so chill, why would anyone even counter him xD

    • @spartan8090
      @spartan8090 Год назад

      Honestly I don’t think they will. The books with Lion El’Johnson returning imply the Emperor doesn’t want to be healed cause that would be a long term detriment. Which when you consider how people reacted when they met Guilliman when he returned and how a civil war is starting to brew. Big E’s return could shatter mankind.
      Unless he keeps his return a secret and basically starts to restore Humanity’s technology piece by piece, or somehow drains the Tyranid hivemind while using the shadow in the warp it creates as shield in order to ascend to full godhood on the level of the four then I think the Nids making it to Terra would spell disaster.

    • @eviljagtech
      @eviljagtech Год назад +1

      @@spartan8090 He could also use the shadow to repair the whole to the warp he has been sealing all this time. This would let GW drag out his "healing" and extend the life of the golden throne. I don't think the Imperium is anywhere near a civil war that a lot of people make it out to be, it's always been on a knifes edge also Guilliman and the Lion win get along just fine. The Space Marine's moving back to Legion strength later on will be a far bigger problem as the Codex has be thrown out and the 100 limit lifted and that may start a conflict.
      In the end I just see not using the Shadow in the warp a waste of a good plot device.

    • @dahn57
      @dahn57 Год назад +1

      I don't think the Shadow in the Warp affects the Webway at all, and the daemons attacking the webway gate in the dungeons beneath the throne are coming through the webway, not the warp.
      Also, if the Emperor's soul is drawn to the new body cloned by the Dark Eldar, he will then be in Commoragh and not on Earth, not powering the Astronomicon, holding the webway closed, or anything else he does.
      At which point, goodbye Earth. Even if not, then you would still have a Hive Fleet on the doorstep, so again, goodbye Earth

    • @eviljagtech
      @eviljagtech Год назад

      @@dahn57 The light of the Astronomicon will most likely get blocked the moment the Nids reach the Sol System as the Shadow will cover it. It's also known that the Throne is failing and only has maybe a century or 2 of life left. While I don't think GW will bring the Emperor back with the Nids, Guilliman needs to show up as he pretty much got his butt kicked by Magnus and Mortairan. Guilliman did show the Emperor can work through others while still be on the Golden throne with enough power to set Nurgels garden on fire and bring Guilliman back from the God Blight.

  • @liamm1419
    @liamm1419 Год назад +41

    Perhaps the Dark Eldar intend to use another warp entity to inhabit the clone perhaps the Starchild? I believe some of the Primachs have been confirmed to have blended souls like the dark/light angels in Sanguinius

    • @alatar4188
      @alatar4188 Год назад +2

      not sure a pure warp entity would work, it could be you need a physical body to be bound to the throne, if not for it to work, then to prevent the entity for leaving

    • @Makorze
      @Makorze Год назад +12

      Magnus the Red could probably withstand the Throne. Alot of folk have speculated that is why the Emperor originally told Russ to bring Magnus back to Terra.

    • @cheesy_87
      @cheesy_87 Год назад +2

      ​@@MakorzeMagnus was made by the emperor to sit on the throne. It's said so in Magnus' Horus Heresy novel

    • @GeronimoPlaz
      @GeronimoPlaz Год назад +1

      He's going to come back as 2Pac

  • @commissaryarrick9670
    @commissaryarrick9670 Год назад +23

    Next video will be from the dark cells deep beneath holy terra with a script written by an inquisitor

  • @GinamosWithCherryOnTop
    @GinamosWithCherryOnTop Год назад +9

    Imagine for 10,000 years they have not tried to think of other ways to send signal.

  • @g.sergiusfidenas6650
    @g.sergiusfidenas6650 Год назад +5

    So it's quite possible that the Mechanicus is leaderless at the moment, that could lead to very interesting developments, we could see who is lying now, Cawl or Cawl inferior and finally determine if his ego is bigger than his common sense.

  • @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886
    @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 Год назад +10

    The Drukhari should try to clone Magnus instead as he is the 2nd most powerful human psyker in existence.

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +10

      That's a great shout! Especially with the lore about Magnus being the emperor's replacements

    • @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886
      @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 Год назад +7

      @@SandmanofTerra Finding Magnus dna is probably also easier than getting Big-E dna.

    • @kyuumann500
      @kyuumann500 9 месяцев назад

      Why not clone eldrad?

    • @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886
      @ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 9 месяцев назад

      @@kyuumann500 Hmm, seems like a good idea as well.

    • @AbdulBido
      @AbdulBido 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@SandmanofTerrawasn't magnus pushed into the webway by the eldari when he was fighting gorillaglue.?!
      I always thought that was obvious to everyone what they are planning now..
      Magus will take the chair willingly after a few gags and clamps in the dark city..
      Not to mention that sitting on that throne will bring this demon primarch to mythical levels of power..

  • @corrupt1user
    @corrupt1user 11 месяцев назад +4

    It'd be the "Age of Devouring". It would be, well...
    Chaos would initially devour most of the Human worlds, along with the Eldar, Tau, Ork, etc. However, Chaos is self-limiting; without the raw suffering of Humanity, they starve.
    This leads to a combination of the Tyranids and Necrons. Now, the Necrons are weak to Chaos, and many would find themselves dying a final time as most of their tomb worlds get overrun, but many more are undiscovered. The Necrons will come back, stronger than before. The Tyranids, however, do not find the Necros that tasty, and will basically starve. Especially as they don't actually see the planets, but have to be called by genestealers to find the way. No humans means no genestealers, so maybe they will find a different galaxy.
    Now, the Orks. Without humans being a major threat, they would just ignore humanity for a while. If they survive, the Tau might discover primitive human worlds, and so they might become Humanity's guardians... permanently.

    • @calebmcallister4289
      @calebmcallister4289 11 месяцев назад +1

      See thats where your wrong chaos farms humans and does what they want with them its not self limiting it takes a world and uses it to grow itself

  • @fkaroundhandleit
    @fkaroundhandleit Год назад +25

    I have a feeling they're just trying to keep the emperor from dying, cause he did make a deal with chaos gods, and his soul most likely will go into the wrap, and get used by chaos gods.

    • @leonhardable
      @leonhardable Год назад +27

      considering his soul already is in the warp and fucking shit up in a major way there, i doubt the chaos gods could actually "use" the emperors soul at all. its canon that they almost completely refuse working together, and 1v1, none of them would stand a chance, and only khorne would be stupid/proud enough to even try

    • @Makorze
      @Makorze Год назад +33

      Big's E's soul unleashed into the warp would Kill the 4 gods but humanity would die in the ensuing collapse of Terra and void-travel.
      Thats why Chaos is the way it is, its a fine balancing act. The Emperor is a threat but as long as he is on the throne, he is a "manageable" threat. Thats why they keep throwing endless daemons at the Warpgate on the Throne, to stop the Emperor from dying and using his perpetual ability to heal himself.
      Ofc this is only just kicking the can down the road, Sure Big E can't move against them directly whilst bound to the throne, but he also grows in power for every day he is sat upon it.
      After 10,000 years, Big E has devoured over 3,650,000,000 psykers at this point - that is an obscene amount of power in one being... and thats not even including the faith of the Imperial cult in the warp channeling even more power into him.

    • @jonharrison9222
      @jonharrison9222 Год назад +3

      You only have a daemon’s word for that, so…

    • @leonelimalevu7302
      @leonelimalevu7302 Год назад +8

      ​@@Makorzeso basically, it's either fight him now, and risk kick starting the War in Heaven Part 2: Chaotic Boogaloo, or keep him on his gaming chair for now, and deal with him later (when he's stronger).

    • @Makorze
      @Makorze Год назад +1

      @@leonelimalevu7302 pretty much

  • @Greenielid
    @Greenielid Год назад +7

    The Sandman should be called the postman , cos he always delivers.

  • @squeesmyth9025
    @squeesmyth9025 Год назад +9

    never understood how cypher and the sisters entered the throne unhindered

  • @quintonbottoms5766
    @quintonbottoms5766 Год назад +6

    Scenario: A vast swarm of Tyranids invades the galaxy, covers large amounts of the galaxy in the shadow, they invade the Sol system, covering the golden throne in the shadow. Something kills the Emporor or he lets go and is reincarnated but the shadow blocks the warp from knowing what happening. He leads a second Great Crusade to reunite the remaining humans and Primarchs , takes back Sol, and rules the Empire of Man once more!

  • @Ikxi
    @Ikxi Год назад +4

    The Age of Notverygoodstuff
    Sooo, just all the time in 40k 🙃

  • @dankdaze42069
    @dankdaze42069 Год назад +11

    I love lore channels Warhammer has a ton of it😂

  • @christmasham4312
    @christmasham4312 Год назад +5

    Unfortunately they should let this happen for the clone of the emperor would probably nuke it self once on the dark throne to destroy them all

  • @darthgorthaur258
    @darthgorthaur258 Год назад +7

    It's so good to find a channel with some much Emperor of mankind lore on it, some do it every now and then but you do it sooooo much more often an that's what's needed because there is so much lore about him even if it's just a fee pages in a book it always has way more meaning than initially thought.

  • @Magus_on_Main
    @Magus_on_Main Год назад +5

    But what if the Orks made a GREEN FRONE

    • @leonhardable
      @leonhardable Год назад

      No need make throne when can take human shiny stuff

  • @walterleonardi9184
    @walterleonardi9184 Год назад +11

    Great content, keep it coming!

  • @Marbo12f
    @Marbo12f Год назад +4

    Honestly, creating another of The Emperor's kind is a pretty easy feat for the Emperium. A thousand pskyers is literally a single day's sacrifice to the throne (if not less) and even if that number were to go up by a million, the juice would be well worth the squeeze. While this prince would be nothing compared tot he Warp God the Emperor has become, even the ascended Emperor was mighty enough to bring a legion of 100k space marines to their knees in an unencumbered display of might. Even if the Emperor's origin are a mystery to Emperium, its surprising the inquisition hasn't accomplished the feat by accident.

  • @koren7783
    @koren7783 Год назад +3

    Damn, 200 years before the throne gives out? Some major stuff is bound to happen in couple of years then lore wise then

  • @jamesgordley5000
    @jamesgordley5000 11 месяцев назад +3

    Stopped the DE from making a clone Emperor they didn’t previously know about, but *nevertheless* threw away what may have been the only chance to save the original. This could have used a bit more deliberation.

    • @MrXandervm
      @MrXandervm 10 месяцев назад

      No way dude, you cant trust the dark eldar. You dont trust the rape-torture-loving-evil-jerkbag-dark-eldar with the repair of technology you dont understand to keep your mosr important leader alive. I guarantee you, 100% they would screw over the emperor and mankind, just for fun

  • @danbrown2473
    @danbrown2473 Год назад +2

    HOw daft will people feel when the Tryanids reach Terra and tell people how to fix the Golden throne. (Quite simple really, a fuse is in the wrong socket). Then they bugger off .

  • @cheber817
    @cheber817 Год назад +5

    IS THIS RECENT LORE???? this is one of the best lore drops ive ever heard

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +5

      It's actually been around for a few years now. It's just that it's not a very popular series. And it should be! Definitely recommend

  • @SamNo27
    @SamNo27 Год назад +5

    It would be so cool if a horrifically distorted custodes was rescued from the drukari and gave them more info

  • @DominusNox106
    @DominusNox106 Год назад +6

    Vaults of terra were amazing and I've read them at least twice now. It's a great series that deserves more attention.

  • @daroth7127
    @daroth7127 7 месяцев назад +1

    I find it funny how the Drukhari are basically Anarcho-Capitalists. If you have the souls, they have the tech!

  • @santamuerte4767
    @santamuerte4767 Год назад +4

    Shit just got even more realer than last time! Keep up the good work brother!!

  • @natebartels1444
    @natebartels1444 Год назад +6

    I really like the Old Ones theory.

  • @SeijinSA
    @SeijinSA Год назад +1

    Have a problem with your chair? Why not consult with a furniture craftsman race... Seems reasonable.

  • @therealcutman
    @therealcutman Год назад +2

    Wow! What a voice!!!! I’m Subbin 👐🏾🙌🏾

  • @orlandofua
    @orlandofua Год назад +3

    This video right here, Inquisitor

  • @Tiger74147
    @Tiger74147 11 месяцев назад +1

    The Fabricator General, smoking a cigarette, on the vox with the Chapter Master of the Custodes.
    "So... have you tried turning it off and back on again?"

  • @Mixu.
    @Mixu. Год назад +4

    Great stuff. I can never miss videos from you. There's always something I wouldn't otherwise have found out until way later, if ever. :D

  • @LZRCuteR
    @LZRCuteR 11 месяцев назад +1

    The throne is begging for Gigers interpretation. Cmon GW, you can afford the commission.

  • @Besitzt11
    @Besitzt11 Год назад +2

    I bet the tyranid queen is in the golden throne mechanism and that’s what drew the tyranids in.
    Almost completely not but hey who tf knows.

  • @kf5298
    @kf5298 3 месяца назад +1

    Dude. Such a fascinating video. So grateful you dive into the stuff other people do not.

  • @albdamned577
    @albdamned577 Год назад +2

    Be funny if they clone him and he is stuck to the chair too

  • @mariopena1719
    @mariopena1719 Год назад +3

    Was not expecting this voice to come from this guy 🤣 I've heard so many of ur shorts and always pictured something soooo different 🤣 like for starters older and a huge beard honestly!! Lol

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +2

      😂 well I hope it wasn't too much of a let down?

  • @KrisToCool
    @KrisToCool Год назад +18

    I think the warp emperor and the emperor on the throne are separate entities. The emperor on throne must die and reincarnate before the warp emperor becomes to powerful!

    • @KrisToCool
      @KrisToCool Год назад

      Abadon knows he has to save humanity by slaying the mortal form of the emperor. Big E is the only one that can stop the apotheosis of the warp emperor/slanesh 2.0.

    • @sovietunion7643
      @sovietunion7643 Год назад +8

      that, actually a really interesting idea. what if throne emperor actually did get revived at one point in the future, but his soul had evolved to be something entirely different than just the emperor's might? what if the emperor warp entity, is actually a chaos god of order as belief in the imperial cult has imprinted the warp with the thoughts and worship of humanity?
      this would be the greatest plot twist of all time as if big E is revived and yet an emperor warp god exists at the same time due to the imperial religion supporting it. having two emperors with very different natures would be really interesting to explore. would also explain quite a lot of things

    • @Thought_Processing_
      @Thought_Processing_ Год назад +6

      My theory is that the Emperors soul was shattered like Magnus but he can’t put it back together as the various versions of the Imperial creed have changed the pieces so they can’t be put back together, like a jigsaw where someone changed a few pieces.

    • @cheesy_87
      @cheesy_87 Год назад +2

      ​@@sovietunion7643that would be an amazing plot twist, especially knowing the Emperor sees religion and faith as one of the greatest dangers. He would surely try to destroy the religionized warp emperor

  • @EngineerOfVaul
    @EngineerOfVaul Год назад +4

    That ad segment killed me, I almost choked on my lunch at "Family" asdfghjk
    But I'm guessing these events are taking place after the events of Gathering Storm. When the birth of the Yncarne and Yvraine being chosen as its emissary caused the barrier in the webway to shatter. I knew of these books, but this clarifies when they're taking place better now.

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +1

      So what's fascinating about Chris wraights works, is that the vaults of terra series, the regents shadow series, run at the same time of gathering storm! It's very cool

    • @EngineerOfVaul
      @EngineerOfVaul Год назад

      @@SandmanofTerra ah so it was planned out this way. I love that they made all these different serieses coherent with one another! And it makes sense, cause I expect the drukhari would try and fix a literal hell portal in their home as soon as possible.

  • @zawwin1846
    @zawwin1846 3 месяца назад +1

    You sold your birthright. …. Damn shivers

  • @kharnthebetrayer1575
    @kharnthebetrayer1575 Год назад +1

    There is 1 Being That could fix the the Throne …… problem is Big E would probably become a Pokémon!!!

  • @martinstuvland8620
    @martinstuvland8620 Год назад +4

    Glad to see you took the feedback about the music to heart! This fit excellent. For the rest of the video..... It gave me goosebumps. Well done.

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +1

      Glad you like it! Tbh it's hard to tell sometimes

    • @martinstuvland8620
      @martinstuvland8620 Год назад

      @@SandmanofTerra Understandable! As long as it feels dramatic and sombre, it should fit. Just matching the grim dark theme of 40k. For me, as soon as the soundtrack crosses into action/adventure movie themes, the video loses a bit of it's punch. Though again. You have my full understanding that that's easier said than done!

  • @felixautomaton5314
    @felixautomaton5314 11 месяцев назад +1

    Have you tried unplugging it, and plugging it back in again?

  • @anissyahromi5671
    @anissyahromi5671 Год назад +1

    What ever you do,dealing with them is a no no

  • @dankdaze42069
    @dankdaze42069 Год назад +3

    I like how he said this is a niche story and Earth was getting invaded by cornite superdemon things😅

  • @seekingabsolution1907
    @seekingabsolution1907 Год назад +7

    Kind of fucked up that George planned to eradicate the Eldar and necrons whilst heavily relying on the achievements of the Old ones, Eldar and Necrons, to achieve almost all of his goals. Then again, it is Grimdark.

    • @inteallsviktigt
      @inteallsviktigt Год назад +2

      Who is George?

    • @randomdude6446
      @randomdude6446 Год назад +2

      ​@@inteallsviktigtone of the big e names Saint George is the story of him fighting the void dragon

    • @henryviiifake8244
      @henryviiifake8244 Год назад +3

      If you're referring to the Emperor as "George", you do realise that he's always been a bloodthirsty, xenophobic warlord?

  • @UR-025_STC
    @UR-025_STC 4 месяца назад +1

    That was awesome mate!!!! I love the deep dives you do on this channel!

  • @enigmacrk200
    @enigmacrk200 Год назад +3

    If the emperor uses the golden throne to act as a sort of beacon for space navigation how did people get around before he was placed into the golden throne? There was a time period after chaos but before he was in the throne when they still traveled through space and ships would need to be able to navigate. How was that (space navigation )possible before he (emperor) provided that service with the golden throne?

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад

      We don't entirely know to be honest because so much of that period is a mystery. However, we do know that it's technology far exceeded the imperiums

    • @dahn57
      @dahn57 Год назад

      @@SandmanofTerra In the Early Crusades though, when the Emperor was out and about searching for the Primarchs, how was the Astronomicon powered then? Because it was not until after the Emperor was permanently installed upon the Golden Throne that they discovered that there was the places for the psykers to be drained, so it can't have been that. And the Emperor was out in the galaxy, so it wasn't him...

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад

      @@dahn57 yeah good question. so he could operate it from afar at that point, even from the other side of the galaxy.

  • @Lilgoth89
    @Lilgoth89 11 месяцев назад

    18:52 Howdy folks and welcome back to world of warships with rear admiral Jingles

  • @peterga3658
    @peterga3658 Год назад +4

    i really like your videos man a lot

  • @TheHuangShan
    @TheHuangShan 4 дня назад

    Fabulous Bile got an excellent portfolio when it comes to successful cloning. I would have gone to him before the Drukari.
    Actually, I would go to orks before drukari.
    Or Tyranids.
    Or Necrons.
    The point is - Drukari are the last option, just before straight up begging Chaos tumours for help.

  • @marcostellin3095
    @marcostellin3095 Год назад +3

    How did the dark eldars slain the custodes and mechanicus delegation?

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +3

      It's quite funny actually in the novel. They don't think the drukhari delegation is very large initially.
      But as soon as shit hits the fan, 100s of drukhari basically just appear out of nowhere!
      Worth noting we don't actually see Nevradarans death, so theres always the possibility that he survived somehow

    • @henryviiifake8244
      @henryviiifake8244 Год назад +2

      1) Being sneaky, cheating bastards.
      2) Having a crazy tech advantage.

  • @ghostpcab
    @ghostpcab Год назад +1

    I want the emperor to come back just because i want see what he do when he see the horror of what happen to the imperal that they done every he told them not to do. But i do hope there a part in space where some worlds keep to the word of the emperor and we can see what the ture imperal wha the emperor want

  • @seanturner1197
    @seanturner1197 Год назад +1

    Knowing how grim dark the setting can be, I still hold hope, a picolitre of hope, that the khan was able to rescue the seemingly lost custodes and mechanicus.
    And a picolitre is one millionth of a microlitre (10^-12).
    Those custodes don't come cheap by the way. The lost of one would bankrupt an imperial world, the loss of many would result in a depression that would last 60,000 years.

  • @Kareszkoma
    @Kareszkoma Год назад +1

    They can't clone the Emperor thou, because the soul wouldn't be there. Not even the Drukhari can. There is only a singular soul for an entity, and they would have to steal the Emperors, which is highly uncontainable even for the Choas lords. The Daemon Primarchs are a somewhat exceptions.
    Even if they were to create a being that is very much like the Emperor, there is no chance he wouldn't be communicating with his other part.

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +2

      It's interesting, and you might well be right. However, the Drukhari are confident that it would suit their purposes.
      Ultimately, we are in a realm of lore that is unexplored and new, so I can't say for certainty either way.

    • @Kareszkoma
      @Kareszkoma Год назад

      @@SandmanofTerra That is fair. They give it a try anyway. It was a super desperate project and hurried. Maybe they wanted to steal the Emperor or try some other craziness.

  • @frankacciarito6099
    @frankacciarito6099 Год назад +2

    Epic story so far!!! Can’t wait for next installment

  • @PeachDragon_
    @PeachDragon_ Год назад +1

    Now how in the hell did the drukari kill a large amount of skitarii and tech priests AND a force of custodes?

  • @pyerack
    @pyerack 9 месяцев назад

    Bet the Throne is failing is because it's exhaust ports are clogged up by dust since they haven't been cleaned in 10,000 years

  • @xzenitramx666
    @xzenitramx666 Год назад +1

    I hear about those books, but I havent pirated those yet (or I may say drukaried)

  • @martinrenthlei3303
    @martinrenthlei3303 Год назад +1

    sandman you sound like how an AI would imitate a Brit-man.

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад

      😂 noted. I'll try and sound more natural going forward

    • @martinrenthlei3303
      @martinrenthlei3303 Год назад +1

      @@SandmanofTerra no, its not a critique. its a compliment. You have such clear voice mannn. Dont change it, sorry for the misunderstanding. God bless my friend.

    • @SandmanofTerra
      @SandmanofTerra  Год назад +3

      @@martinrenthlei3303 ahh no worries, appreciate it !

  • @michaelangelosimon4489
    @michaelangelosimon4489 Год назад +2

    The first word I said upon reading the title is "FUCK!" 😂
    Too many things going on! 😂

  • @ShadaOfAllThings
    @ShadaOfAllThings 11 месяцев назад +1

    Listen, all I'm saying is that Robutte, who started the Indomitus Crusade, probably was the catalyst for the Khornate Daemons showing up. After all, he was bringing war in his wake, and Khorne is there in the War.

  • @RaynmanPlays
    @RaynmanPlays 10 месяцев назад

    Hold up. _How_ many Drukhari were there? Vs. how many Custodes?

  • @joelestadella1983
    @joelestadella1983 12 дней назад

    Needs help from the eldar, gets to choose between the scheeming but honorable craftworlds who have worked with the imperium in the past or the irredeemably evil cesspit elves that feed on torture. Difficult choice

  • @alfredandersson875
    @alfredandersson875 Год назад +1

    Thank you Sandman. My large conspiracy against the government was not detected thanks to my vpn.

  • @checkoutmyplaylistsforente8054
    @checkoutmyplaylistsforente8054 Год назад +11

    My personal theory is that if they manage to make a being of sutch Psychic might suffer unimaginable torture that the dark eldar near him will get a massive power boost and possibly even get rid of Slaanesh's claim on their soul.

  • @powerarmordivision
    @powerarmordivision 9 месяцев назад

    It’s something I never understood in the book series the best arises one of the lords said that it was his right to see the golden throne how could he do that is there shielding? And I don’t remember the book exactly

  • @alejandrorp5160
    @alejandrorp5160 8 месяцев назад

    Drukhari motivations seem weird here. It's not just that they've supressed their psychic potential. They've a reason for it. Psykers are one of the very few no-nos in Commoragh. They cannot risk daemonic incursions, especially when they're essentially Slaneesh's gummy bears.
    Cloning Empz could result in more harm than good It they botch the process.
    So, shoddy writing or true desperation on the Drukhari's part?