Why Agatha Succeeds Where WandaVision FAILED

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    Why Agatha All Along Succeeds Where WandaVision Failed
    In this deep dive, we explore why Agatha All Along not only succeeds as a Marvel Studios TV show but also manages to outshine WandaVision by truly embracing what it means to be television. WandaVision started off on the right track, paying homage to classic sitcoms and presenting a fresh, episodic format within the MCU. But halfway through its run, WandaVision abandoned its unique format and evolved into something more familiar to Marvel fans - essentially becoming another big-screen superhero movie squeezed into TV episodes. This shift caused WandaVision to lose some of its magic and storytelling potential, leaving many fans feeling like the show didn’t quite stick the landing.
    That's where Agatha All Along comes in and completely flips the script. By leaning into the television medium and crafting episodes that stand alone as engaging, self-contained stories, the series builds on the strengths of WandaVision while sidestepping its pitfalls. Each episode is an experience unto itself, drawing from different genres and styles to tell unique stories that also contribute to the overarching narrative of Agatha Harkness as a character. The result is a show that doesn’t just feel like a chapter in the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe but thrives as a complete, well-crafted TV series in its own right.
    What makes Agatha All Along such a standout is how it bucks the MCU's long-standing struggle with making good television. Historically, Marvel’s foray into TV has often felt like the extended build-up or filler for the next movie - a pitfall that comes from writing stories that fit more neatly into a blockbuster structure rather than episodic TV arcs. However, Agatha breaks away from this trend by leaning into its medium, allowing episodes to shine individually while building toward a cohesive, larger narrative. Jac Schaeffer, the mastermind behind the series, takes what worked best about WandaVision - its playfulness with genres, its willingness to explore character, and its love for television storytelling - and doubles down on those strengths to make Agatha All Along something truly special.
    Whether you loved or hated *WandaVision*, you won’t want to miss this breakdown of Agatha All Along as Griffin (@griffschiller) gives you his Agatha All Along review and explains why Agatha All Along is so good, how Agatha All Along perfects Marvel television, why Agatha All Along is great, why WandaVision is bad, and more. Enjoy this Agatha All Along analysis, WandaVision Analysis, and Agatha All Along explained and WandaVision explained video!
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  • @FilmSpeak
    @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +5

    What do YOU think of Agatha All Along so far?🧙🏼‍♀ Better than WandaVision?💥 Comment below! Thanks again to Factor! 🍽 Use code FILMSPEAK50 to get 50% OFF your first Factor box plus 20% off your next month of orders at bit.ly/3XSHPjR!

    • @N0TAR1A
      @N0TAR1A 2 дня назад +2

      WandaVision episodes 4-9 done killed my wife and took my bloody son
      Agatha has so many easily preventable very embarrassingly stupid problems but at least there's no Monica to unironically say the most stupid things anyone has ever said

    • @Thed538dhsk
      @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад

      Sooo you're saying Wanda killed sparky?​@@N0TAR1A

    • @LuxersMultiverse2090
      @LuxersMultiverse2090 2 дня назад +1

      I agree with you . Agatha is a better writeen show than Wanda vision

    • @Petrichoroma
      @Petrichoroma День назад +1

      I’m loving Agatha. I think you’ve made a good call about Agatha knowing and maintaining its foundational drama.

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  День назад

      @@Petrichoroma Thank you! Yeah, it just feels like they laid a solid foundation and will build off of stronger.

  • @armaanshahzad2939
    @armaanshahzad2939 2 дня назад +68

    Idk if this is a weird compliment but your videos make me better at english essays. You use the same templates of terminolgy, effect and link to context. In this case: terms would be how the show was revealling itself, effect is the same, context is sitcoms and how marvel hasnt been doing many character based shows at that time

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +9

      That's honestly an amazing compliment! Thank you so much 🙏🏻

    • @VTTVpsycho
      @VTTVpsycho 2 дня назад +2

      The production is so well done too. The editing, the music, the incredible thumbnails, and the aspect ratios that change from video to video. There's a lot of effort put in these videos, and it shows.

  • @Underscorezeus
    @Underscorezeus 2 дня назад +51

    Probably would've been better to release this after the fourth episode went out publicly, that way people could judge it on the same grounds that you were able to

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +4

      Well, it'll be here for when they watch the first four episodes. I think regardless, the video still functions as an overall impressions video comparing the two projects and allows me to address the issues I had with WandaVision that I hadn't prior.

    • @sathrielsatanson666
      @sathrielsatanson666 2 дня назад +13

      Probably would be better to wait till the whole thing is released to avoid another egg on his face but what do I know, huh? 😂

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 2 дня назад

      @@sathrielsatanson666Judging on your name you clearly know nothing at all in life.

    • @sathrielsatanson666
      @sathrielsatanson666 2 дня назад

      @@Byronic19134 Can your commwnt be any more stupia? Probably but it would not be easy. Thanks for playing, too bad you had nothing constructive to add.

    • @sazude2
      @sazude2 День назад +2

      ​@@sathrielsatanson666Like... You'd think that would make sense right? And yet he made a whole video already like girl... What? I didn't even finish the video but I definitely heard enough. How are you gonna say Wandavision is good in most episodes until the last episode, but then praise Agatha all Along already before the last episode airs?? Like What?? Lol. And how come you hate the series just because of the last episode?? Like I don't trust this review.

  • @k29king1
    @k29king1 День назад +47

    Wandavision didn’t “fail”, there would be no Agatha without WandaVision and for a spinoff to occur it generally has to come from a successful property that has the general audiences attention.

    • @graphiquejack
      @graphiquejack День назад +1

      I am not a Marvel fan… I maybe saw one or two of the big movies like Iron Man at most. I wanted to watch Agatha because I like Joe Locke and wanted to see him in a different role than the one he plays in Heartstopper. I decided to watch WandaVision in preparation for Sgatha when it came out, but I never really got into it. It felt like it was all style and gimmick, without any stakes or interesting backstory… maybe that’s because I didn’t know anything about Wanda, but as a non-Marvel fan, I was left feeling unimpressed.
      I am enjoying Wanda much better. I agree the first episode was a throwaway, but I suppose it was felt that they had to show Agatha still under the spell and then coming out of it, and it made sense to spoof the WandaVision trope of a show within the show. The second episode was slightly clunky because of the repetitiveness of recruiting each witch for the coven, but I don’t see any other way they could have done it, and all the characters are quite compelling, and the acting is great across the board.
      With episode three, I’m totally in it. We still have a slight spoof of other shows, but it makes sense to what is going to happen within each trial. The action of the trail itself is furthering the plot along and developing the backstories of each character, and we get more riddles and mysteries than answers, which is fun. The speculations I am seeing online prove to me that people are getting really invested in this, and the mysteries are good enough that not all of them are easily understood or solvable. For me, this is the far superior show. Sorry, WandaVision.

    • @beysmentssecuritycamera6013
      @beysmentssecuritycamera6013 День назад

      generally ? who says ? ppl only care about the money let's say it did fail the first round. im sure they'dd wanna 2nd chance to prove themselves

    • @scarletwitchmultiverseofma2093
      @scarletwitchmultiverseofma2093 2 часа назад

      ​​​​​​​​@@graphiquejack some audiences will never realize the significance of WandaVision if they haven't followed the previous movies lol. You will also never appreciate the show if you haven't watched the previous movies. Plain audiences like you will never realize everything in the MCU is connected and will be a prequel or a sequel to each other. Generally speaking WandaVision was a phenomenon due to the fact that it imitate's it's audience during the pandemic or lockdown. Which is why non-marvel fans will never appreciate the significance of it, and will only see Marvel's Movie's or series just a plain television, or movie. Like what you said, the major pin point as to why you think agatha is a "good" show, is because of Joe ngl. WandaVision's sitcoms pay homage to all the original sitcoms like the Dick Van Dyke show. And no, Majority of the people don't find Agatha All Along amusing. Some maybe, but in reality, it's a show nobody expected and wanted. Majority of the people are watching it because of the plothole in Doctor Strange 2, wether Wanda is coming back. Never as Agatha All along reached WandaVision's success. It's a good show, but not better. You're right, you don't know anything about wanda at all. And to be frank and honest, Non Marvel fans should refrain from commenting on marvel shows unless they know about the background of it.It only offends some marvel fans, and make themselves look ignorant and ridiculous.
      To highlight your "No backstory" issue with WandaVision. You're absolutely wrong Lmao. WandaVision's storyline came directly after the events of the Avengers Saga, and after the events of Endgame, where Wanda, one of the majority blipped during infinity war came back. And again, you will never realize the significance of the show if you haven't watched the previous movies. The MCU is a cinematic franchise with everything in it being a prequel or sequel to each other.
      It was an introduction to the MCU's phase 4, therefore starting the Multiverse Saga. It introduced the character "Scarlet Witch" (prior to the previous movies, MCU had no rights to the character.)
      Agatha All Along will never serve a real purpose to the MCU's main storyline, and it's timeline and that's the harsh truth. It will only be a side hustle to the events of marvel and will remain irrelevant until further notice.
      WandaVision has showcased backstories of Wanda herself (via flashbacks with Agatha Harkness.)
      So sorry, but Agatha All along is not superior. It may be to plain audiences.
      WandaVision is a show that potrays grief, and it's side effects. Maladaptive daydreaming presented magically. Hence why so many are drawn to Wanda because of how relatable she is especially that WandaVision was released during lockdown, where people had lost track of reality, isolated in their homes. (Much similar to wanda's situatuon in the hex. )
      The reason why people are watching Agatha All along, is because of Wanda lmao. And Thus show is a magnifier to how succesful WandaVision is, that they had to make a spinoff of this show, which was Agatha all along.

  • @Thed538dhsk
    @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад +25

    No. If Agatha All Along opens with Agatha snapping out if wandas's spell simce wanda died, this changes major aspects of wanda, Wandavision and its plotlines, and even agatha ad a character.
    Agatha being stuck in the spell means that in ep 5 when S.W.O.R.D shoots at wanda, IF they did successfully shoot and kill her, everyone in westview would've stayed stuck in the hex. Agatha being stuck proves what Monica said, we don't know what happens if you shoot Wanda while the hex is still up. Now we know, the spell remains unless another magic user can individually help each resident break free from the spell. Agatha but more likely dr strange would've had to go to each resident and help them break free.
    This effects wanda because we now know she meant in multiverse of madness when she wanted to oeave her universe that she was planning to still keep Agatha trapoed for seemingly forever stuck against her will as the nosy neighbor.
    And lastly Agatha. Aubrey Plaza's character asks Agatha, is this how you really see yourself. It informs Agatha's character. Skipoing it with her just waking up free from the spell takes away the pov we the audience now know how Agatha sees herself. Agatha maybe be a disney villian-esque evil witch. Killing a fog and laughing in how deliciously evil of an act it is, having kids on leashes she yanks, having a witch laugh, a villian theme song, having evil magic and just being a murderous succubus of a witch BUT she sees herself as a detective. Not just any detective but one whose personal life is in shambles and she's all alone. She in Wandavision is motivated by the quest for knowledge of how the hex was formed. She sees herself not solving crimes, she says its never about the crimes but about the individual towns and people and secrets both have. She sees herself as a truth seeker of secrets buried deep in others and in towns. She sees life as a gritty detective story with gruesome acts as just being a mundane part of life. She sees herself as not a murderous witvh though she knows she is one, she sees herself as just a cop that gets to rough with culprits in pursuit of knowledge and the truth. Much how loki sees violence not thriugh purely sadistic pleasure but as a way to compensate for his own insecurities and lack of control. Loki wanted to commit genocide of all frost giants, mass violence just to earn daddy's love. It was a desperate plea to gain control of something he felt insecure about.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 2 дня назад +1

      I would be so down to watch a Dr. Strange show or movie of him trying to break free residents of the Hex.

    • @Thed538dhsk
      @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад

      @@Byronic19134 But at the time Wong was sorcerer supreme because Wandavision took place after endgame and in multiverse of madness strange doesn't know witchcraft so I do wonder how he'd do it?

    • @annev3301
      @annev3301 День назад +6

      Right? Completely agree with what you’re writing. It’s like he’s contradicting himself. As he said, what made Wandavision “bad”, was the over-explaining of action upon action. What he likes about Agatha is that it isn’t necessarily the Pandora’s box, but the emotion of the people involved. Then he goes on to say that episode 1&2 could’ve been 1 episode so that by episode 2 we’d get the coven assembled to take on the Witches’ road. However, the road is a mere road to the Pandora’s box and as such, in his own words, the emotion of the people involved are more important. Given the fact that the episodes themselves are around 30 minutes; No, those episodes couldn’t have been squeezed into 1 episode.
      Imo this show is an Agatha’s coming of age story, facing old friends, “demons” to take on the Witches’ road. The Scarlet Witch is very much alive, she’s trapped in her reality; That is a solid story line for 1 episode for her to break out of, and to set up her coven by episode 2.
      It’s a season premiere, the Road is important but not the main character; Of course they’d take it on in the next week and not the season’s premiere.

    • @Thed538dhsk
      @Thed538dhsk День назад +2

      @@annev3301 EXACTLY! Thank you. As Agatha or Agnis would say, "how is anyone doing this sober". FilmSpeak condemns Wandavision for being too streamlined aka having to explore each detail so the audience is all on the same page bluntly like in ep 4. Which is fair. But then recommends Agatha All Along pretty much do the same thing by having ep 1+2 merged into 1 ep with just streamlining it and having the witches all come to Agatha to face her so that it's bluntly explained why they go on the road instead of exploring the characters the way it's done in ep 1+2. Wat???

  • @daydreaminavenue
    @daydreaminavenue 2 дня назад +50

    Wanda vision is one of my favorite mcu shows so far along with loki. Agatha all along is great so far, i liked episode 3 more than episode 2 ngl

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +11

      I definitely agree on Loki! Agatha had a rough start but really started to come together by the end of 2 and into 3

    • @filosisifo5030
      @filosisifo5030 День назад +1

      Agree. It Is amazing what they did with Wanda Vision. They thought waay outside the box when they made it.

  • @SamAntyx
    @SamAntyx 2 дня назад +14

    I got 5 minutes in and then you used Breaking Bad and Mad Men as examples to compare sitcom tropes and discuss character development. I feel it would've been a more compelling argument if you had chosen actual sitcoms to draw your comparisons.
    In pre-90s sitcoms, there was no character development per se. The shows were literally "wouldn't it be fun and funny to throw these characters into this situation?" on a week-to-week basis with no change in status quo by the end of the episode. These are largely the sitcoms that were being parodied by WandaVision as they move through the television eras of the 50s, 60s, 70s, etc. And as we see in media history, the idea of character development grows over time to become a more anticipated and normal thing to see in the situational comedies of today. This is echoed in WandaVision as Wanda gains more awareness of her situation in Westview, allowing her character to develop full awareness and agency in the shows through-line.
    I'm sorry, but you lost me when you cherry-picked dramatic shows for information for your argument.

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад

      Well the problem was WandaVision wasn't actually a sitcom. It cherry picked elements of a sitcom, but was otherwise a fairly straightforward season of dramatic television, hence the comparisons. The sitcom element was merely window dressing. If it had continued what it was doing in the first 3 eps, then yeah, it'd be a sitcom, but it didn't. It actually fares worse if you view it as a sitcom in comparison to serialized tv.

  • @ProdCritic
    @ProdCritic 2 дня назад +30

    I realized I love Agatha so much because it’s just well written fun with a confident story. Weirdly that’s become rare nowadays. I don’t need/want every show to be about things I already like or just a drama. Unique, well crafted fun is just as hard to accomplish & I’m grateful Agatha seems to be pulling it off 👍

  • @Thed538dhsk
    @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад +23

    I don't understand how Wandavision taking place in the MCU and S.W.O.R.D investigating in ep 4 strips the show of its identity or makes it bad? Isn't part of the joy of Wandavision is that we know it's a simulation of some kind in the MCU? Would the show be as much fun if it were just in some random town that no one investigates and was just Wanda skipping through sitcom eras to explore her grief? Isn't a part of the fun is identifying with and against S.W.O R.D like when they face Wanda in ep 5?

  • @Byronic19134
    @Byronic19134 2 дня назад +14

    I was an outspoken hater and annoyed when Agatha was even announced. I still watched because I refuse to let other people think for me and tell me how to feel about a project like many people do despite going in feeling like I wasn’t going to like it. I resisted its allure, I couldn’t let it suck me in, this show was not made for me after all right? And what would it say about my manhood if it did like it?
    By the end of episode 1 Katherine Hahn had completely won me over, and by the end of episode 3 the entire cast has shown how talented they are. Debra Jo Rupp gave one of the most hilarious performances specifically in episode 3 I have saw in a TV show in awhile.
    So imo Agatha is a shockingly good show that is very well written and just as well acted and produced.

    • @RobbeRooms
      @RobbeRooms 2 дня назад +10

      why are lots of men so afraid of liking something with a female lead?

    • @Petrichoroma
      @Petrichoroma День назад +4

      I really hope real “manhood” and adult maturity return to mainstream culture soon. It’s promising to see guys like you understand that a TV show has nothing to do with your gender identity and it’s nice that people with minority sexualities and gender identities can be centered in stories for everyone.
      Leadership on this “we’re all in this together, for one another” vibe is traditionally, conservatively, what made America a leader in the world, particularly Hollywood entertainment as an export of soft power and creative fun.

  • @Cangeltibon
    @Cangeltibon 2 дня назад +9

    I can’t agree with episode 1, it was good because it was addressing the flaws of WandaVision purposely. The attention to detail was insane and as Agnes fell away and Agatha was revealed. In the 1st scene everything was played straight they were truly acting as if it was a procedure cop show the acting and framing was good and convincing for it’s genre and then its starts slowly deteriorating right around the time Agatha picks up the pendent. By the time she’s chasing and interrogating Teen, she’s comedic fall off a roof, can’t run down a suspect, her acting is so over the top and bad in the interrogation that you’re just missing the laugh track. When the absurdity peaks BOOM pivot, “they are just flowers!” Teen is speaking Latin and Agatha’s acting quality goes back up as she shed’s WandaVision and becomes Agatha All Along.

  • @Thed538dhsk
    @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад +11

    FilmSpeak, Wandavision was inspired By The Vision and Scarlet Witch comics from the 1980's, House of M, AND the Visions. After knowing this you realize why which choices were made

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +2

      Yeah, but it's not a great adaptation of ANY of those comics runs. It actually misunderstands why they work pretty hard.

    • @zenithquasar9623
      @zenithquasar9623 2 дня назад +2

      @@FilmSpeak I don't know but the last 2 episodes of the show destroyed me. So, not sure why it "missed" the mark. Clearly is about Wanda trying to process her grief, and its pretty amazing at that. But I guess people can have differing opinions. And it has a broader appeal than Agatha. Even though, I love Agatha to death so far, I understand it is not for everyone. And that's okay.

    • @nightwish1453
      @nightwish1453 2 дня назад

      @@zenithquasar9623 think people take issue with the hype of certain elements subrverted like the whole Ralph Boner thing and maybe a few lines that might needed a slight re-draft to not get misintrepted at the end

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 2 дня назад +26

    Personally for me I liked Wandavision over Agatha all along but that’s just my opinion.

    • @trason101
      @trason101 2 дня назад +12

      You're comparing an already finished complete season with 3 episodes of a show that just started .... An Opinion it is....

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 2 дня назад +3

      @@trason101 fair enough

    • @hezelia
      @hezelia 2 дня назад +4

      ⁠​⁠@@trason101 yeah and this video is made over a show that is still in running compared to a completed show. The same logic could still be applied.

  • @lkf8799
    @lkf8799 2 дня назад +14

    I'm excited to see what happens next and I'm happy Kathryn Hahn gets to show off.
    I didn't know Aubrey Plaza was going to be in this so that's a huge bonus.
    I love quest stories so I'm having a good time with the Witches' Road storyline.
    Wanda went a bit crazy from grief which is why people are more forgiving than they should be.
    Agatha is more like Loki - charming and selfish and power hungry. She pushed boundaries and now uses the betrayal by her Coven to justify all her evil actions after.

  • @jonathans8892
    @jonathans8892 2 дня назад +13

    “why WANDAVISION is PERFECT | Video Essay “ …… oh ok

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +2

      @@jonathans8892 Haha I address that in the video

  • @MaryTheTankGirl
    @MaryTheTankGirl 2 дня назад +4

    I liked the 2 episode premiere. I don’t care about efficient storytelling. I think it’s great when they have fun and I found the acting in the first episodes amazing especially because it is a lot more focused on Agatha.

  • @rationalwatcher7739
    @rationalwatcher7739 2 дня назад +6

    Hard Disagree. Ep 1 was good, & the presentation of Agatha's punishment spell was well done, & the spell broke where it should have. The whole bit was a fun kick-off for the show. The conceit of the parody was obviously not meant to fool or bamboozle viewers and most people except some youtube critics picking up what going on early and following the plot fine.
    And if you don't remember what impetus for all the stuff happening outside Westview in Wandavision, Wanda went ham on the facility holding Vision's remains and was on the run basically.

  • @aprilarashi7797
    @aprilarashi7797 2 дня назад +11

    On the contrary, I found WandaVision to be a lot better and stronger. I'm enjoying Agatha All Along a lot so far, but it's not as cojsistent in quality as WandaVision. I disagree with your opinions.

  • @DuskyPredator
    @DuskyPredator 2 дня назад +4

    I do think there is at least one thing that might help look back at episode 1. For some reason, Agatha brings up a card accident in Eastview, where the front airbags were deployed, but there was blood in the backseat. It is a little strange this information seems to come out of nowhere, with no clear connection to the "death" of Wanda and the Darkhold.
    As of episode 3, I think it is pointing to the Teen, who we know was raised in Eastview, and had something big happen to him 3 years earlier. He was probably in the backseat of a car accident, which will play some big part.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 2 дня назад +3

      There is a lot in episode 1 and the whole “they could have combined episodes 1 n 2 to get to same point” criticism is super weird because it’s like well yes but this is a TV show not a movie so why would they do that.

  • @donyoung333
    @donyoung333 2 дня назад +12

    Wanda vision rushed the ending because of the pandemic - its well reported they rewrote Agatha’s into the antagonist and cuts scenes from the final

    • @Tuzon15
      @Tuzon15 2 дня назад

      This must be why she felt more like a mentor than a villain

    • @donyoung333
      @donyoung333 День назад

      @@Tuzon15 Agatha was certainly influencing things - but we don't know why as the Orin gal ending was dramatically changed

  • @blerdShinobiX
    @blerdShinobiX День назад +4

    The fact that we got an (Agatha all along) proves how good (Wandavision) was let's be honest there's no debating that..

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  День назад

      Well it proves how popular it was and how popular that character was. That doesn't necessarily equate to quality imo.

    • @blerdShinobiX
      @blerdShinobiX День назад +1

      @@FilmSpeak No proved that Wandavision was an extremely popular show.. wandavision was everything it needed to be it was the fans who overhype conspiracy theories and at the end we're disappointed when they didn't come true.. Wandavision had a unique concept and executed perfectly.. and so far Agatha all along is doing a great job building onto the lore that doctor strange and Wandavision started

  • @QueendomCome621
    @QueendomCome621 2 дня назад +4

    Wandavision was a good show.

  • @parisg155
    @parisg155 День назад +3

    There would be no Agatha if WandaVison failed…

  • @joshfactor1
    @joshfactor1 2 дня назад +1

    i wouldn't say it failed entirely but, yes, there are definitely a lot of contrivances & plot holes

  • @Zack207
    @Zack207 2 дня назад +2

    Great video, Agatha was a nice surprise for me, went in with extremely low expectations and was happy to see it really isnt that bad, not one of my favorites but enjotable. Its always exciting to see whether or not you like every new project that comes out 😂

    • @Petrichoroma
      @Petrichoroma День назад

      This open-minded attitude toward entertainment is so refreshing. Thank you!

  • @pyrojack8230
    @pyrojack8230 5 часов назад

    Reminder that WandaVision's major criticisms came after the first 3 episodes got universal praise. Just keep that in mind since we're only a few episodes into Agatha All Along. They have time to fuck up.

  • @wanderingseth
    @wanderingseth 2 дня назад +2

    WandaVision is my favourite Marvel product ever. I've watched it through ten times. I also love Agatha :)

  • @persia888
    @persia888 10 часов назад

    Wanda vision did not fail in any way. It’s absolutely brilliant.

  • @Thed538dhsk
    @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад +4

    But yes the show was that. Wandavision explores the characters of Wanda and Vision. Their Shadow selves or versions of themselves they could end up becoming is Agatha and S.W.O.R.D vision.
    Wanda if she doesn't stop the hex could end up being a selfish witch like Agatha and Vision could lose his humanity to be nothing more than a weapon with no free will. They gave the ghosts of Christmas future versions of themselves. Vision gives up his humanity to S.W.O.R.D vision by he himself facing his own mortality and giving his sense of freewill to S.W.O.R.D vision.
    Wanda chooses to be selfless and sacrifice her happy false reality because it's hurting others, her happy heaven isn't worth being other people's living hell. Unlike Agatha who was willing to kill her own coven to gain power and even allow people of West view to remain enslaved to again gain knowledge and power-Agatha's paradise

  • @amirmahadeo56
    @amirmahadeo56 2 дня назад +3

    Wait so u think that all the questions won't be answered by the end of Agatha All Along? Like u really think this stand alone show, with no reason to have a second season is going to not tie itself up into a neat little bow with one tiny thread being loose for future mcu connectivity? If so, ur more delusional than Wanda was in the first few episodes of her show. Wandavision's theme was never about sitcoms and it wasn't supposed to be. it was a tool used to further state not just wanda's mental state but the primordial nature of her powers which was reveled to distinctly be her's for her whole life, and not just some subset of an infinity stone. Additionally, the entire character development argument is flawed when u realise that u went into the show expecting that of it rather than considering what the show was truly presenting u with. If u would have prefered a more character focused show, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you, but that's not going to ever be marvel. Yes, character arcs are going to be there but bet ur bottom dollar, all marvel projects will inevitably return to being a continuance of an overarching story about far more than just the characters u saw in that project. WV was meant to kickstart a new saga and did so wonderfully as it genuinely started a new form of world building that most mcu projects would only dream of achieving and it did so in the clutches of covid. To summarize, ur just mistaken about the purpose of both shows: WandaVision is a bridge for 2 eras and Agatha All Along is a staand alone project that has had minimal influence leading up to it within the franchise.

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад

      @@amirmahadeo56 where did I say the questions wouldn't be answered? I'm just saying the won't be answered until the climax which wasn't really the case for WV.

    • @amirmahadeo56
      @amirmahadeo56 День назад

      @@FilmSpeak how was the answers not given in the climax? The climax of the show was the 2 part episodes 8 and 9 consisting of the emotional climax followed by the consequences of the actions made in the series to give a multilayered fight. U were saying that episode 4 was a reveal but in actuality it just raised more questions, just as u had idolised in the shows you referenced. Only the shows u referenced gave contextual questions while wandavision gave more emotional questions. It's clear that u prioritize a genre of a show over the message within the show. Also, how are u so sure that Agatha All Along will answer the questions only in the climax? You've only seen the first 4 out of 9 episodes. Are you not doing the exact same thing here, that u criticized yourself for doing in wandavision? What if episode 5 comes out and teen gets a whole backstory and a new group other than the Salem 7 is introduced to explain how the witchs' road truly works? Will u then take even more time to retract this video? You are more than welcome to make videos to uplift a show but what you've done is use clout about another show to praise this one. Base line, u can criticize wandavision, but if ur doing so, criticize it using facts and not comparisons to a show that u have no idea if it will be better or not. U can also praise Agatha All Along but if ur doing so, praise it for what it's already done rather than what u think it may or may not do. And don't compare it to a completed project because it is not completed.

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  День назад

      @@amirmahadeo56 I think you're misunderstanding, yeah there were revelations in ep 8 or so, but we already knew what was going on prior to that. It was pretty apparent given how it was over explained to death. The other thing I don't think you're getting is I'm comparing the first 4 eps of WV to the first 4 reps of Agatha and I think, as a tv show, Agatha functions better. Despite a rocky beginning, it feels written for tv, the character work and mystery unfold like tv, whereas WV kinda forgot it was tv after a while, especially when it left the hex. It just became another MCU movie more or less. I also fully acknowledged that Agatha may completely crumble by the end, I'm just saying, at least so far (because this is more or less an initial impressions video), Agatha looks to be headed towards a more promising end. I'm planning on making another video once the show's done like I did with X-Men 97, so if it falls apart, I'll acknowledge that.

  • @goldsearcher7606
    @goldsearcher7606 2 дня назад +2

    Interesting.
    I’ve never believed this would be possible.
    But go on…

  • @Byronic19134
    @Byronic19134 2 дня назад +2

    7:13 One of biggest criticisms of Multiverse of Madness was people said it ignored Wanda arc in this show and went different direction when I always felt like no it was a direct continuation of Wandavision since she was never held accountable she was able to keep doing whatever she wanted and the Scarlett Witch was the outcome. Am I wrong?

    • @Petrichoroma
      @Petrichoroma День назад

      I think you are right, but Multiverse of Madness was sloppy.

  • @omgitsazombielo
    @omgitsazombielo День назад +1

    Mmm, the thesis statement that wandavision is degraded by its inability to faithfully follow genre conventions is definitely worth critique, because its really like going to mcdonalds and complaining about the calories. That's exactly what makes it a refreshing addition to the superhero genre in general, you don't know what to expect from it. I'm not saying the show doesn't have faults, but the antagonism between the superhero story that overexplained and the sitcom references was an indispensable narrative tool. The formulaic mcu superhero reality the show is grounded in isnt the man behind the curtain but rather another part of the genre pastiche; because all the superhero/mcu stories we've gotten, over explain everything, and display the harmed casualties in an effort to ground these wild events in realism. The superhero style is the last sitcom for me.

  • @Tuzon15
    @Tuzon15 2 дня назад +1

    I didn't even see Agatha as an evil villain in Wandavision, just a therapist to Wanda. (except she killed Sparky)

  • @Byronic19134
    @Byronic19134 2 дня назад +1

    I loved episode 1 and fell like it flaunted the shows ambition and production value right out the gate. I also disagree completely that it’s superfluous and they could have combined Ep 1 n 2 to get to the same point, I mean for all that you can say why even have a season just combine all the episodes into one to get to the same place. Where do we draw the line?
    But calling it superfluous is objectively incorrect because we saw in ep 2 what things in real life looked like in her delusion. I think this also is why Sharon is saying different words to in Ep 3 to Wanda then we hear in Ep 1 of Wandavision, because it seems like we are finally hearing what Sharon was telling Wanda in real life. This will come back in the show and play a role later on so it is not superfluous but helps build the world and the concepts out to better understand while also adding a little suspense since we were not sure entirely how Agatha was going to break out the spell so in a way it was her first trial.

  • @jaym8988
    @jaym8988 День назад

    Agatha All Along is Moon Knight level with Witches.

  • @scarletwitchmultiverseofma2093
    @scarletwitchmultiverseofma2093 3 часа назад

    I think "failed" is not the right term. Maybe "improvements". You're comparing an already finished project with something that's not even finished yet. Certain flaws in WandaVision doesn't define it and it certainly has not "failed". And the truth is, WandaVision will always be a BETTER show. It has set up several movies (Like the Marvels inolving Monica, The Skrulls for Secret Invasion. And the Show, Vision Quest, together with Agatha all Along.) WandaVision was mainly the BEGINNING of MCU's phase 4 and it's main agenda was to explore the MCU's vastness, through showcasing Wanda's capabilities. WandaVision was a relevant storyline as it was even mentioned in other movies ( The Marvels, by Monica Rambeu and Carol Danvers ). The hex was meant to represent wanda being out of touch in reality, thus why people outside the hex are involved. WandaVision was PHENOMENAL. Many people are attached to Wanda due to how relatable she is. It is Maladaptive Daydreaming represented magically. And the time period as it was released was perfect due to it lockdown was still a thing. WandaVision has explored wanda to the depths of her character, and even answered the plothole on to how she managed to get her powers. Plus, Agatha all along is a magnifier to how successful WandaVision was. Honestly, people only watched Agatha All Along is mainly because of Wanda lmao. And of course it's hype. You're also comparing shows that aren't mcu related and will never be a relevant point in the MCU's timeline proves to point this has been the stupidest argument about this show. And to add, WandaVision was a show that's meant to introduce the "SCARLET WITCH" character which they had done pretty well. (Prior that in the past films, the MCU had no rights to the title "Scarlet Witch")
    The Difference is, Agatha All Along is a show nobody even ever wanted, or expected, and will never be a major point in the MCU timeline and will never be a major pin point to the MCU's storyline.
    Some of your reasonings are valid, you just used the wrong term in your video lol. "FAILED" is an overly dramatic word to describe a show that has high ratings.
    Plus WandaVision's sitcom was meant to imitate the sitcoms of the old times like the Dick Van Dyke show giving honor to these shows.
    And this is the main problem, some audiences are either too plain to even enjoy the significance of these "points" in the show.
    WandaVision certainly has it's identity. It is a show that represents it's audiences during the time of the Pandemic, lockdown. It show's how, like Wanda, we are out of touch with reality at that time. People make conspiracy theories and expect it to be true, when it clearly is just a THEORY. Then get dissapointed when it doesn't happen. Honestly WandaVision's flaws isnt the problem lol, it's the Audiences whose expectations never emerged or either they're just plain.
    WandaVision's finale could've had potential to be different, but it was perfect into leaving it's audience with the thought on "What's next for Wanda." And to be honest, Multiverse of Madness absolutely RUINED Wanda's well written arc in WandaVision, which makes her inconsistent.
    I respect what you think, I just wanted to clarify some facts about WandaVision.
    Lastly, WandaVision was never meant to be a normal "Television" show. It's main agenda is to introduce "The Scarlet Witch" Title. And it's a marvel show of course it adapts to something familiar with Marvel Fans. It pays homage to The Scarlet Witch and Vision in the comics, and the House of M, and IT was a great adaptation if you actually read the comics. Similarly how we saw tetris blocks in WandaVision, Wanda's signature in the comics. WandaVision has done WELL into tricking it's audience that wanda is a victim to this fake reality when all along she was in control. It gives this "mystery" and confusion on who is behind all of this, while showcasing Wanda's capability. Of course, WandaVision is a superhero show, or a movie piled down into different episodes. It's marvel lmao and not a one time show. Marvel is a cinematic franchise with all of it's movies and shows connected to each other and form a significant point to it's main storyline. And again, it's not a plain one time show. And that's what makes marvel peculiar.

  • @CoolHilcieni
    @CoolHilcieni День назад

    i don't really agree with the "mcu" part being bad in wandavision. it's just a part b of the story. This is also something that caused discourse in stranger things but i think it just comes down to is the b / c story fun, are the characters fun etc.

  • @Soulreaper-1129
    @Soulreaper-1129 2 дня назад +3

    Hmmm idk 4 episodes in and saying it’s better then Wandavision 🤷‍♂️ bro reaching much maybe 🤔
    Yet I haven’t even seen one episode of Agatha so who am I to judge

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +2

      @@Soulreaper-1129 well if you compare it to where WandaVision was at after 4 eps, I think it's a much better and more consistent TV show even though the highs of WV might be higher.

    • @Soulreaper-1129
      @Soulreaper-1129 2 дня назад +1

      @@FilmSpeak I think I’ll just wait till Agatha is completed I’ll watch it. That would be the only way to properly make a comparison.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 2 дня назад +1

      @@Soulreaper-1129I was an outspoken hater and annoyed when Agatha was even announced. I still watched because I refuse to let other people think for me and tell me how to feel about a project like many people do despite going in feeling like I wasn’t going to like it. I resisted its allure, I couldn’t let it suck me, what would it say about my manhood if it did? By the end of episode 1 Katherine Hahn had completely won me over, and by the end of episode 3 the entire cast has shown how talented they are.
      So imo Agatha is a shockingly good show that is very well written and just as well acted and produced.

    • @prestonburford
      @prestonburford День назад +1

      I’m cringing at the review saying Agatha succeeds over WandaVision when 3 years ago this same person made a video saying WandaVision was perfect before the show ended and then changed their mind… and now they are doing the exact same thing again… reviewing and claiming a show is succeeding before the show is finished. I personally think WandaVision was one of the best projects the MCU had made, even with some faults. Agatha is great so far, people need to not take everything soooooo seriously.

  • @drag-ha
    @drag-ha День назад +1

    This is peak over analyzation. Did you forget it’s fantasy?

  • @kamsanimb
    @kamsanimb 2 дня назад +2

    Both are good shows

  • @Petrichoroma
    @Petrichoroma День назад +1

    I still love WandaVision, but your critique is on point. I’m still hoping Elizabeth Olsen gets the opportunity to really embody Wanda coming to terms with how wrong she was. Multiverse of Madness dropped that ball.
    I’m loving Agatha All Along. I want it to be well-received because I want a return to this kind of practical, theatrical craftsmanship on filmed projects.
    I think there’s a lot more to the Mare of Easttown episode that’s going to come back. I might be wrong, but I think it’s densely packed with what’s actually going on in the “real” world. I hope I’m right.

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  День назад

      If they return to the detective thing, I'll definitely eat my words! Haha I just think they're done with the TV show pastiches.

  • @shilpashetty7635
    @shilpashetty7635 День назад +1

    Wanda vision was way better than this. I don't say Aghatha is a bad show.... its pretty good. But wanda vision was another level. Who told you that wanda vision wasn't great????

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  День назад

      I did? When I watched it? It's an enjoyable show, it just kinda falls apart imo for the reasons I mentioned in the video.

  • @icedragon9498
    @icedragon9498 2 дня назад +1

    Wandavision didn't fail it was great. And multivers of madness would of been great if the director actually watched it.

    • @nightwish1453
      @nightwish1453 2 дня назад

      more so the writers, they basically rushed wanda's fall to villainy from it's original draft because hype i guess

  • @MarvinMartinez2001
    @MarvinMartinez2001 2 дня назад +1

    Just hoping for Werewolf by Night cameos I need the supernatural side of the mcu to flourish and Jack has ties to the Darkhold so give it to me!

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +1

      Yessss need them to be back!

  • @fergusclarken8437
    @fergusclarken8437 2 дня назад +3

    Are you having a laugh?

  • @lemonscentedzombie9080
    @lemonscentedzombie9080 2 дня назад +1

    If I know something about Marvel it's this. WAIT...UNTIL..THE...LAST...EPISODE. Marvel can create amazing stories. Then always wants to wrap everything quickly. Tripping over themselves.

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +1

      Totally! Look at WandaVision. I'm just comparing the trajectory of both shows after the first 4 eps, and at least Agatha understands how to be a TV show, and an enjoyable one at that.

  • @Anthonycheesman33
    @Anthonycheesman33 2 дня назад +9

    Agatha wishes it was wandavision lol.

    • @armaanshahzad2939
      @armaanshahzad2939 2 дня назад +5

      Silence Cheeseman

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +4

      WandaVision completely fell off in the end imo

    • @ADSNavarro
      @ADSNavarro 2 дня назад +4

      ​@@FilmSpeakyes, but it doesn't detract from the rest of the show which was an amazingly good run from episode 1 to 8 and 9 being not that bad, 8 being one of the greatest things MCU ever produced, and being able not to understand the narrative outside the hex is a take that is incredibly unique in how alone you are in having it. The mystery box has got to pay off, otherwise you have Rise of Skywalker, the development that Wandavision gave wanda and how the events that happened shaped her into the character she eventually becomes, are the narrative that happens outside the hex, it's intertwined. And I don't know how you didn't get that

    • @Soulreaper-1129
      @Soulreaper-1129 2 дня назад

      @@ADSNavarro agree 👍🏽

  • @Thed538dhsk
    @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад +1

    But Wandavision does have an identity, its sci fi horror romance. Thats how to define its genre.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 2 дня назад +1

      Lol is that a real genre?

    • @Thed538dhsk
      @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад

      @@Byronic19134 Yes. The 1990's Casper film is horror romance. Several star trek original series are sci Fi horror romance. The bride of Frankenstein is sci Fi horror romance. Pride and prejudice and zombies is also horror romance. Ep 3 of xmen 97 was also sci Fi horror romance with the goblin queen. The first Terminator film is also horror romance isn't it? Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor, it's basically a save the princess type plot

  • @enzmondo
    @enzmondo День назад

    Some light spoilers for episode 4 btw

  • @DNiero96
    @DNiero96 День назад

    Um they both were and are great shows. These points feel super nitpicky

  • @annev3301
    @annev3301 День назад

    Interesting video, but it does at some point feel like you’re kind of contradicting yourself, so allow me to explain: As you said, what made Wandavision “bad”, was the over-explaining of action upon action. What he likes about Agatha is that it isn’t necessarily the Pandora’s box, but the emotion of the people involved. Then you go on to say that episode 1&2 could’ve been 1 episode so that by episode 2 we’d get the coven assembled to take on the Witches’ road. However, the road is a mere road to the Pandora’s box and as such, in your own words, the emotion of the people involved are more important. Given the fact that the episodes themselves are around 30 minutes; No, those episodes couldn’t have been squeezed into 1 episode.
    Imo this show is an Agatha’s coming of age story, facing old friends, “demons” to take on the Witches’ road. The Scarlet Witch is very much alive, she’s trapped in her reality; That is a solid story line for 1 episode for her to break out of, and to set up her coven by episode 2.
    It’s a season premiere, the Road is important but not the main character; Of course they’d take it on in the next week and not the season’s premiere

  • @Thed538dhsk
    @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад

    In breaking bad, Jesse is let off the hook. He does horrible crimes too but in the end he gets his happy ever after

  • @SocheathSun_
    @SocheathSun_ День назад

    WandaVision was amazing.... I think it mightve been because of the timing

  • @ThorOdinson-wm3ho
    @ThorOdinson-wm3ho День назад

    Who says wandavision didn't work....? It worked for me. I love the show

  • @WildJester-em1he
    @WildJester-em1he День назад

    As soon as I saw a clip of two visions talking about theseus ship ik it would be bad lol

  • @Anonymous-u4y
    @Anonymous-u4y День назад

    Wandavision did not fail it was a great show even the finale was good.

  • @rienailo
    @rienailo День назад

    I was so confused when you started talking about episode 4. How do you have early access to it? Why wasn't there a spoiler warning?

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  15 часов назад

      that's my b for forgetting to give a slight spoiler warning. I was given screeners. Tbf, I don't actually spoil any of the plot points or reveals in the video, I'm just more so theorizing based on the presence of Rio in episode 4 which I'm pretty sure the trailers have already alluded to.

  • @TJUC123
    @TJUC123 День назад

    I think you should be making these videos AFTER the season is over because so far it seems like Agatha’s mind is still stuck in the hex which changes some of the points of this video.

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  День назад

      @@TJUC123 jac schaeffer basically confirmed that's not true. She shed the dead skin of WandaVision to do her own thing. That was the point of ep 1.

  • @sailormakaw
    @sailormakaw День назад

    Love your videos, even when I disagree with your thoughts! Thanks for sharing this alternative view

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  День назад

      Thanks for that! Glad you dug this one.

  • @filosisifo5030
    @filosisifo5030 День назад

    Whatever dude. Wanda Vision was phenomenal. They were on something when they did it.

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  День назад

      I think parts of it are excellent! It just fell apart in the end with cracks that were sorta there by so 4. It's still an enjoyable show, just a bit broken imo. I'm glad you like it though!

  • @rayshaunjackson8478
    @rayshaunjackson8478 2 дня назад +2

    I like Wandavison until the ending tryed implying that Wanda was a more of victim than the town she enslaved. And the go on to gaslight them saying "you dont understand what she had to sacrifice"...WHAT!?lol😅..

    • @nightwish1453
      @nightwish1453 2 дня назад +2

      i feel like the line needed another edit as i felt the meaning was more so "having the power to literally bring your loved ones back in some capacity of your own will and having to let go of it for the better for everyone else" which kinda makes sense but it kind of just ignores the the enslavement

    • @Petrichoroma
      @Petrichoroma День назад +1

      Yeah, I really hope Elizabeth Olsen gets a chance to play this better.

    • @Petrichoroma
      @Petrichoroma День назад

      @@nightwish1453I dunno. I got that from the line as written, but maybe some people wouldn’t.

  • @adrenalinjunkie9682
    @adrenalinjunkie9682 День назад

    I don't think it's true that the detective thing is completely empty. In my opinion, it sets up two chekhov guns, which are the locket of hair symbolising her son, and Rio. While spoilers have made these mysteries seem solved, I don't think they are.
    It's implied from the trailers that Agatha didn't trade her son for the darkhold ("why do you let them say those things about you?" - "because the truth is too terrible to bear") so what did happen?
    And personally the whole fight scene with Rio had a lot left unexplained about it. I don't know what sort of emotions two people would have to have to get into a fight of that nature if they a) couldn't kill each other, b) seemed to have romantic interest in each other and c) the fact that Agatha says she hates Rio but acts in self defense and Rio says she misses Agatha but supposedly turned up only to cause her pain?????

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  День назад

      That's fair! I don't disagree with anything you're saying, but they do sorta ditch the detective thing before moving onto the main story. Yeah those bits are teed up, but I just think all of that would've been better served in one full pilot instead of 2 eps where both leave a bit to be desired individually.

    • @adrenalinjunkie9682
      @adrenalinjunkie9682 День назад

      @@FilmSpeak I'm willing to admit that the dead woman plot could have been done better, especially if there were going to be clues like the crashed car which we now assume were just Agatha's hallucinations.
      I enjoyed the detective thing because of all the repressed lesbian tension, but I'm also aware that it makes the show less watchable to people who don't keep up with the MCU because they miss the gap between detective Agnes and the character we know, which imo is what's interesting about it.

  • @vaulted4677
    @vaulted4677 2 дня назад +1

    How do you have access to episode 4 already?

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад

      Screeners

    • @vaulted4677
      @vaulted4677 2 дня назад

      @FilmSpeak oh okay 👍 I like your theory on Aubrey Plaza's character, it's very clever. Also thank you for not spoiling anything about episode 4

  • @davidshatley5674
    @davidshatley5674 2 дня назад

    Did you see transformers one, or are you not interested in watching it.

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад

      I have seen it! It's great. Working on something for it.

  • @Flyboyflame937
    @Flyboyflame937 2 дня назад

    Literally only been 3 shows bruh

  • @Thed538dhsk
    @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад

    So film speak wants Wandavision but no Agatha Harkness, no S.W.O.R.D, no S.W.O.R.D vision, and no Monica Rambeau? Wouldn't that be boring because by ep 3 it seems Wanda has some control of this world so with no Monica to help empathize with Wanda, no S.W.O.R.D to antagonize her she'd just be viewed as a villain by ep 5. The show would've ended but with no ep 4 to provide context. Especially with no Agatha to be a red herding as a possible villain so again Wanda even seems more like an irredeemable villain. It's only because of these other aspects we the audience can view Wanda as complex, not necessarily a villian but certainly doing a lot of harm.
    Its like saying Yensin, Iron Monger/Obsidian Stane, and Coulson/S.H.I.E.L.D all makes the 1st iron man suck; that it'd only be good if Tony was just an unsympathetic a hole with no mentor character to help motivate him to have a change of heart and no Stane to test his values/challenge his new change of heart, as well as no Coulson and S.H.I.E.L.D to provide Tony and Pepper heroic plausible deniability. Just make Tony an a hole to gets himself free with no help and then he has to spend the rest of the film battling a failing weapons company vs being iron man and in the end he decides to just be a superhero with no government oversight or acknowledgement and CEO of a failing company.

  • @veen-a2092
    @veen-a2092 День назад

    This video is an essay video filled with desperation for views one of the most sloppy arguments I've seen so far on this topic

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  День назад

      Alright haha well thanks for watching anyway!

    • @veen-a2092
      @veen-a2092 День назад

      @@FilmSpeak Sure,you seems like you desparately need the charity view

  • @jovanigoncalves2961
    @jovanigoncalves2961 2 дня назад

    I'm sorry, but you're going to have to do a lot more convincing to make me believe that I Agatha all along is a good show.🤨

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад

      I mean it's not AMAZING, but it's a fun piece of genre TV that explores a character really well so far!

    • @jovanigoncalves2961
      @jovanigoncalves2961 2 дня назад

      @FilmSpeak I mean, I'm glad that you're having a good time, but for me, I don't find any of the characters to be likeable, but again, you are allowed to like what you like.😌

  • @RetroCollects1
    @RetroCollects1 2 дня назад +2

    i havent watched agatha all along and ive only seen a few episodes of wandavision. its hard for me to commit to tv shows. i can watch movies easily even binge franchises but tv shows idk i dont like breaks inside a story. the only shows ive really watched are the breaking bad franchise and mandalorian and andor + small couple others. but im surprised how people are liking agatha i thought people were gonna hate it i might check it out!

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +1

      It's definitely got issues, it's not the greatest show ever, but it's a fun, surprisingly compelling character driven show that makes for a nice spooky season watch!

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 2 дня назад

      Because Agatha is actually really well written with attention to detail, surprisingly high production quality, and the talent on the cast is amazing especially the chemistry between Kathy Hahn, Aubrey Plaza and Joe Locke.
      But also the show is going somewhere so you feel compelled forward by it.

  • @Thed538dhsk
    @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад

    I liked the season finale of Wandavision why do so many other people dislike it?

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 2 дня назад +1

      People don’t like the CGI boss battles.

    • @Thed538dhsk
      @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад

      @@Byronic19134 but the highest grossing MCU films all have cgi boss battles like GOTG vol. 3, Wakanda Forever, Multiverse of Madness, NWH, Endgame, Captain Marvel, Infinity war, Black Panther, and Ragnarok. Homecoming and civil war are more intimate ending fights with the cgi boss battles in the middle instead.

  • @Sus_Bak
    @Sus_Bak 2 дня назад

    Yeah Agatha really truly succeeded to make me cringe where Wanda failed...
    I guess behind MCU's downfall it was Agatha all along 😂

  • @Etoile001
    @Etoile001 2 дня назад +3

    Agatha all along is really bad, the first episode was like they wanted to write a crime drama but didn’t hire an actual crime writer, there’s no actual investigation or questions being asked about anything strange like an actual detective would. Second, the line delivery is just bad, really bad, and I can’t tell if it’s just the writing because I do like Kathryn Hahn and Aubrey Plaza as actors in other projects. Everyone is overtly sarcastic and the jokes are just so one dimensional for me. I saw someone say they’re tired of seeing the B and C list heroes and villains and I can agree. Also idc but Wanda is not dead. And the most magic I’ve really seen is gusts of wind if you’ve seen the first episode. Things just kinda happen in this show and characters are just like "Magic🤗" as an explanation. But just my opinion tho hope this show is genuinely enjoyable for people who like the character of Agatha.

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +2

      @@Etoile001 I couldn't agree more re: the first episode...it starts off super rough, but does improve a lot by Ep 3

    • @Etoile001
      @Etoile001 2 дня назад

      @@FilmSpeak Also did Agatha need to show ass in the first episode? Thought this was a Disney show?😭

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +1

      @@Etoile001 🤷🏼‍♂️ I wasn't bothered by it haha we saw Thor's ass in Love and Thunder!

    • @Etoile001
      @Etoile001 2 дня назад +2

      @@FilmSpeak Felt out of place and forced for me here. I get the reason behind it in the story, but it would have been more fun to see her still dress as like a version of herself from Wandavision and interact with the neighbors. Perhaps the 80s leg warmer version or the version she was when we last saw her in Wanda. Felt like one of those forced jokes like the interrogation scene was. Appreciate you commenting love your analysis videos. It was also thors third movie, and that movie was out of place for a lot of reasons.

    • @goldsearcher7606
      @goldsearcher7606 2 дня назад +1

      @@FilmSpeakAt least we didn’t see Thor’s Woody. 😉

  • @Perceptive-Abyss
    @Perceptive-Abyss 2 дня назад

    I never watched this personally. I’m more of a action choreography guy. Which is why I was really happy to see a new John Wick Ballerina trailer. What were your thoughts on that? I mean heck you could make a video on the trailer. I would watch it. I know you really liked John Wick 4.

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад

      Probably a bit too late to cover the trailer, but I'm all in on the Ballerina.

    • @Perceptive-Abyss
      @Perceptive-Abyss 2 дня назад

      @@FilmSpeak Yeh that’s fair enough. I’m a little sceptical that Chad was forced to add extra action scenes, and I’m hoping Eve does not become a female John Wick like so many other revenge films starring female actors. Still I’m cautiously optimistic.

  • @DonnyRoy91
    @DonnyRoy91 2 дня назад

    The series finale is the best. Loved it. There’s nothing wrong with bombastic action scenes. You’re just pretentious

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад

      I mean...I don't mind action, it just goes against everything the show was prior. Comes out of nowhere.

    • @scarletwitchmultiverseofma2093
      @scarletwitchmultiverseofma2093 3 часа назад

      ​@@FilmSpeak The show was meant to introduce the Scarlet Witch character as to the previous movies, the MCU had no rights to the name.

  • @Lockn3s5
    @Lockn3s5 2 дня назад +2

    Lol. No. Agatha is absolute garbage. And Wandavision is near perfect if not for that finale which isn't terrible. It just has a few moments that don't work but getting to the end point was well worth it. Like the entire finale was more spectacle than anything to close out the narrative but it's the final scenes with her kids and vision that was the point of the finale. Everything else was window dressing. So it succeeded far more than it failed.
    On the other hand, Agatha is a show made for no one

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 2 дня назад

      Maybe watch the show before you speak because nobody who has can deny the talent and production of this show.
      Furthermore stop letting other YTers tell you how to think and be your own person, I can tell you are an NPC by regurgitating the same tired talking points of “Show made for no one.” Obviously the show has an audience and FilmSpeak talks about it in this video.
      It’s not to late for you to break out the NPC spell tho, free yourself.

    • @Lockn3s5
      @Lockn3s5 2 дня назад

      @@Byronic19134 I talked about Wandavision and said one thing about Agatha and your response is that I'm regurgitating.
      First of all. No. I'm done with Disney and the MCU. Second of all, I am a comic book fan. I can absolutely have an opinion on something regardless if I've watched it or not.
      Agatha is less than a D list character in the comics. She's practically inconsequential to the entire universe. I think the most notable thing she's ever done was be Franklin Richards nanny. This is a character literally NO ONE asked for which is one of many reason I say this show is for no one. It's also a show about witches, Marvel witches. Featuring an all female cast because of course it is. Yeah I know there's a teen boy in it. But he's pretty much one of the ladies.
      Since I am a comic fan and I'm not interested in the show and I haven't met a single other person in real life who also gives a shit about this show, again I ask. Who is this show for? I've been literally asking that question for every single piece of content the MCU has been putting out recently.
      Do you find it an unreasonable question when nothing of late has grabbed my attention other than Deadpool and Wolverine which knows EXACTLY who it's audience is and was made FOR comic book fans?
      Maybe don't jump to conclusions and have emotional reactions to opinions that differ from yours. How about you develop higher standards rather than be placated with mediocre shlock?
      Ironic...calling me an NPC as you shill for the megacorporation telling me to watch this dumpster fire I never asked for.

    • @nightwish1453
      @nightwish1453 2 дня назад

      @@Lockn3s5 when wandavision was new lots of people loved agatha as a character and even the song and that could be how and why we got here, it's just it was so long ago when that has happened and people's opinions can change so it can feel a bit of whiplash revisiting a continuation of the show despite the weird hit or miss (mostly miss) quality that came after wandavision. viewership for the show is surprisingly decent though asking people in real life may not always equate online, I've hardly heard anyone say they watched Andor some even say they are disinterested in it because it lacks jedi stuff but online it's the complete opposite and the star wars fandom view it as one of the best pieces of media star wars has received in a long time. I could say the same with x-men 97, a show that rivals the best of marvel media but again never heard anyone from real life has said they watch it and some of that is being picky because it's animation despite it's critical success and already getting a s2 and pitches for s3

  • @Bones08_02
    @Bones08_02 2 дня назад +7

    These shows are really bad. You guys need to up your expectations or else they going to be keep putting crap out

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +2

      That's fair. I get the sentiment, but I don't think it's an absolute.

  • @kevinarpi2230
    @kevinarpi2230 2 дня назад

    Do transformers one

  • @Astartes-6969
    @Astartes-6969 2 дня назад

    I've literally met no one who's watched this show.......

    • @randomgeekcrap
      @randomgeekcrap 2 дня назад +1

      It's almost like not everyone watches the same shows and you'd find people who watch shows online I've never met anyone who've seen braking bad irl

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 2 дня назад

      Well you gotta actually meet people first to be fair.

  • @Thed538dhsk
    @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад

    No. If in a hypothetical pilot of Agatha All Along just having the witches in the coven come to her to get even strips the show of Agatha's character. The whole point of ep 2 is to show how underhanded and cruel agatha is to manipulate all these desperate women into helping her gain power so she can defend herself from the Salem 7. Agatha literally resorts to insults to bait the other witches into striking her so she can take away their power and defend herself once she sees the door doesn't open. She will literally get a witch fired and bring up her grief and loss of her mom just to bait her into basically being Agatha's henchwoman. Agatha sees these witches not as threats to her but pawns. Like in ep 1 she sees them the same way she saw dottie. Just someone to use, coherce, etc. to get the knowledge Agatha seeks. Having the witches come to agatha instead of showing how agatha receuits them strips that all away. Even teen in ep 2 she only becomes interested in once he tells her he was the one to break the Scarlet Witch's spell. And upon finding out he has no power she can take she grows disinterested in. She only gives in due to desperation and most importantly because she realizes he has some value since some witch out a sigil on him. That secret value is what she wants and keeps him sround for in ep 2. All that would be lost

  • @Thed538dhsk
    @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад

    But the mystery in Lost infamously sucks. Its an example of a mystery gone wrong

  • @1sbraina1
    @1sbraina1 17 часов назад

    Click bait and poor reasoning lol

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  17 часов назад

      @@1sbraina1 literally nothing clickbait about it, but you're free to disagree with the opinion, which you clearly do lol

    • @1sbraina1
      @1sbraina1 13 часов назад

      @@FilmSpeak “FAIlED” is very dramatic and certainly pushes the hyperbolic but to each their own.

  • @sathrielsatanson666
    @sathrielsatanson666 2 дня назад

    Guess you did not actually learned anything and you keep making strong statements about shows that you have not seen in entirety 😂

    • @FilmSpeak
      @FilmSpeak  2 дня назад +1

      @@sathrielsatanson666 the whole point of the video is comparing and contrasting the first four episodes of each respective series to give an initial impression of how Agatha is improving on what didn't work about WandaVision. I literally said things might go downhill and very well could, but at least so far, it's functioning well as TV.

    • @sathrielsatanson666
      @sathrielsatanson666 2 дня назад

      @@FilmSpeak I like it well enough but it was the same thing with Wandavision. So unless the series has a fulfilling finale it does not fix anything in Wandavision template. YMMV of course.

  • @Thed538dhsk
    @Thed538dhsk 2 дня назад

    But no Wanda isn't "off the hook" she's in self imposed exile much like Magneto is in X-Men 97 on asteroid m. And later on in multiverse of madness she does face consequences for her continued harm of others to achieve her happiness. Wanda in Wandavision is sympathetic tho. She is both Jesse AND Walter from breaking bad. We are happy she escaped but also wanting her to face consequences which she later does. In breaking bad Walter we are glad faces consequences but also glad Jesse escapes

  • @charlesbranscomb8493
    @charlesbranscomb8493 2 дня назад

    Did if fail and did the other succed when one is a part one the other the sequel i feel like onelce all three shows is done we will ee the whole picture but