The Bren Ten, Luger, Tokarev, Custom 1911s & More! Ken Hackathorn's Favorite Pistols. Gun Guys Ep58
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- While Bill Wilson was visiting Ken Hackathorn in Idaho, Ken shared some of his favorite pistols. Ken tells the history and his personal story with each of these guns. Enjoy this episode of the Gun Guys, we hope you learn something along the way.
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ABOUT BILL WILSON Bill Wilson has always been infatuated with guns. Originally trained as a watchmaker, he has been in the firearms industry since 1974, starting out with a retail store called Sportsman's Headquarters in Berryville, Arkansas. Since that humble beginning, he has built Wilson Combat into the largest and most successful custom firearms company in America. Since 1977 Wilson Combat has been the leading innovator in high-performance, custom 1911 handguns, tactical long guns and accessories. A Wilson Combat product’s unmatched level of exceptional reliability and peerless craftsmanship is only equaled by our legendary customer service. Wilson Combat is proud to service all levels of local and State law enforcement including The Department of Homeland Security, US Border Patrol, HQ SOCOM, US Marshal's Service, US Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, Diplomatic Security Service, Texas Rangers and many more elite law enforcement and military units worldwide. We are also pleased to support the needs of thousands of law-abiding private citizens in the United States and in many other countries abroad.
ABOUT KEN HACKATHORN Ken Hackathorn has served as a US Army Special Forces Small Arms Instructor, Gunsite Instructor, and NRA Police Firearms Instructor. He is currently an FBI Certified Firearms Instructor, and an SRT member and Special Response Team trainer. Ken has trained US Military Special Operations forces, Marine FAST and SOTG units and is a contract small arms trainer to FBI SWAT and HRT. Ken has provided training to Federal, State, and local law enforcement agencies and been active in small arms training for the past 25 years. He has written firearms related material for Guns & Ammo, Combat Handguns, Soldier Of Fortune, and currently American Handgunner and contributed to at least six other gun/shooting journals. Ken was also a founding member of IPSC and IDPA.
0:00 - Ken's Favorite Pistols
1:20 - Original Hackathorn Special
3:30 - 1946 Colt customized by King Gun Sight
6:30 - Wayne Novak - The Answer
10:30 - Ken's Duty Gun
12:25 - Bren Ten
17:40 - Sig P210 M49 customized by Larry Vickers
20:25 - WW2 P08 Luger
25:00 - Walther P38
29:20 - 1935 Browning Hi-power
30:00 - Tokarev TT-33
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What is your favorite pistol?
CZ 75D Compact Steel Frame (Sorta rare-ish) They don't normally make the compact decocker in a steel frame. usually Aluminum. (Also CZ Customs 75 Bull Shadow optic ready & a 509T on top.)
Kimber ultra
Glock 41
SFT9
Between a Ruger SR1911 and Sig Scorpion, both in the Lord’s caliber…. .45ACP 😂
I recently attended a firearms class in Idaho. Ken is friends with the instructors as well as some of the folks in the class. He stopped by to hangout with his buddies and shoot a little. Though I have know of Ken for ages I had never had the opportunity to meet him before this class. We got to talking and realized that we had some common friends and outlooks. I found him to be sharp as a razor, completely approachable and a first class gentleman. I could (and did) listen to him intently for as long as he was willing to talk. He was an absolute please. Folks, he drips experience and authenticity. That doesn’t mean that you have to agree with all of his positions. I listen and watch and then I pick and choose what works for me. That is exactly what Ken would advocate. I feel blessed to have had the chance to spend some quality time with him.
I could listen to these guys for hours. The wisdom, history, insight and wit.
Haha, I was thinking the same thing. Ken could be reading ingredients off a box of Frosted Flakes and I'd still listen intently...
The tokarev
Thanks for the history. I hope you guys live forever. I'm 73 and still absorbing everything I can about firearms.
Rumor has it bill is still trying to end this episode to this day, and Ken is still pulling different handguns out of the bag and handing them to him.
LMAO
Real briefly… begins to disassemble the firearm 😂
They turned off the cameras, brought out the whiskey, and talked until dawn.
When I started watching this I had the thought of what a video like this would be if Elmer Keith, Bill Jordan and Skeeter Skelton could have done such a video. Those were my three favorite writers from my teen years.
Now that would of been beyond Cool !
Yup, to go back in time and learn from people with some serious "trigger time" is indeed of interest to me ... such could be said of those who relied upon single-action revolvers ... and lever guns too .. they adapted their technique to maximize utilty of function ..
@@CapnMic Sir, an additional plus with the old single action Army revolver is the thing can't go off till you cock it. This makes it a good gun to carry at the farm, as you are unlikely to shoot yourself in the leg at 2:00 a.m. I know, proper practice with any sidearm makes this a very unlikely event, but Murphy's Law can be pretty sneaky. --Old Guy
I totally agree
I agree, means you're about my age. had almost forgotten about Skeeter
These two gentlemen are two icons of 20th century handgun use and development. To quote Clint Smith when I was training with him “the .45 ACP kicked the 9mm’s ass in two world wars!” The .45 ACP was designed in 1904 following the 9mm in 1901. Two great pistol cartridges that we have all loved for over century!
A lot of our allies used 9mm anyway. Australia, UK, Canada, Poland, and all of the resistance fighters.
You might not like it, but this is what peak knowledge transfer looks like.
If Matt Pranka (Former Delta Force and USPSA Grand Master) says Bill and Ken aren’t good instruction then that’s good enough for me: ruclips.net/video/Rak_2Iwawg4/видео.html
Meh. 90% good info from Ken. A good 10% is out dated. Amazing group of guys though. They need to bring in someone like Mike Glover into their inner circle. At least for the social media side.
@@wade6523 that dudes a chinese spy
@@wade6523 That's effing hilarious Wade. "Mike Glover"
@@stunod1479 he's likely killed more people than every employee at Wilson Combat combined. What's hilarious about that?
Ken & Bill,
Love when you guys get together and talk guns. Thanks for sharing all the knowledge you have accumulated over the years! I’d love to see a gun guys episode with Ken, Bill, and Larry. I truly hope Larry is doing well.
Stay frosty,
Rick
I was on the NRA BOD with Col. Jeff Cooper. We went to Yakatat, AK after a meeting. He brought his Bren Ten and really wanted to harvest a Brown Bear with it, but did not get one. I was fly fishing on the river. We had an incredible time talking about that pistol and naturally shooting. Great video as always.
More of Ken please. The man is a treasure.
Yeah, he is pretty damn cool.
Bill great program. And Ken, thanks for sharing your magnificent collection!!!
The serial number KEN 1911 was a great idea and a recognizing to you, that’s a amazing gesture.
Ken, thanks for sharing your collection with us. Well done!
Please continue making these videos. They’re like candy to gun guys. I have a CQB on order but that Hackathorn special is calling my name.
Just a suggestion how about a video that talks about conceal carrying in the early 20th century
Like when people were carrying around the colt 1903/08 pocket hammerless for self defense
That is a great idea!.. Love those early 1900s pistols.
@@mikeseier4449
I actually have one on layaway at the moment
It’s an original colt 1903 pocket hammerless in .32 acp made in 1940
@@ADRay1999 A very fine firearm. You will not regret owning one. Very flat and very concealable. Good shooters too, if you know your craft.
@AD Ray the hammerless Pocket Model Colts are great shooters but if you're gonna carry it be sure you invest in a very secure holster, which may require you to go custom of search out a god vintage. The reason I say this is because as good as they are they are NOT drop safe. I can't recall his name at the moment but it wasn't more than 15-20 years ago when one of the popular gun writers (and LEO iirc) was killed when his fell out of his belt while in his garage. Scared the Hell outta me because I was bad to tuck my 1903 inside my waste band and "Mexican carry" it before that.
I could listen to these men for hours. Almost cathartic. Love it.
So many 1911s, so little time😂
Very nice collection 👍
That was a great video! 👍 My favorite part, and I think Bill's favorite part too, was when you field stripped the two different guns & showed the unique internal features! Thanks for taking the time to film this!
Reminds me of my childhood when my father had his friends over to have there weekly show and tells , keep it up love these videos
I’ve never even cycled the action on them! lol
I am SOOOO glad to see someone (Bill) that uses a revolver grip on semi autos!!!! I have been shooting for 60 years, was a LEO for over 34 years, and have never used anything but a revolver grip (I could out shoot most officers on my department). Sticking my fingers up in the air on the side of the slide is so unnatural that I cannot get a feel for the gun. Love your videos, keep up the good work.
Enjoy your conversation hope you rember coming to my indoor range in the late eighties and teaching classes.
I could listen to these gentlemen for hours. Thanks for the education. Take care.
Thanks for listening
Thankful that you guys are sharing your knowledge with us. Watching from the greater Boston area. Carry on!
Our pleasure!
I could listen to Ken talk about guns all day. The guy is a national treasure.
What a awesome video. Love the history! Thank you Ken.
More of this please. Thank you. Let's see in Mas's safe, and Bill's too!. History is awesome! Thanks again!
More to come!
I would love to see you guys do a deep dive into the Bren Ten and the story of Dornhaus & Dixon. Film such things as doing a field strip and showing the lesser known and ahead of its time features and maybe some feedback from y'all's range trip with it.
It's a fascinating pistol and not much is out there on it in video format. Perhaps even share what yall know about Tom Dornhaus and Mike Dixon, as to my recollection they both worked at Pachmayr back in the day when the Combat Special and Signature 1911s were being built.
I could watch this type of content literally forever.
Awesome video! Love seeing old guns, especially 1911s!
At 71 yrs old I still love my 1911's. I always wanted a Wilson Combat but at 4 wives that became to far out of sight. Thanks guys I never miss y'all video's. Take care, Vern H.
Despite immediately recognizing most of those pistols and knowing their basic functions, adding the historical notes and disassembling them was a real treat. Thank you KH!
Swenson, Pachmyer ....deep pull 🤘🥰😎🇺🇲
Thank you Bill for putting me at ease with my grip on a semi-auto. I am a revolver man at heart. And I, like you, use a revolver grip on my semi's! It is the most comfortable and natural way for me.
Really enjoy listening to you two.
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I enjoyed this video very much. Thank you for showing this collection to us. God bless.
Glad you enjoyed it!
How is LAV doing? Miss him.
Wishing the very best to Larry Vickers.
Thank you for sharing your collection with us!
Thank You Mr. Hackathorn With All Your Information On Military Pistols Sir !!!
I have one of the first one hundred Bren Tens built. Still my favorite pistol. 😍 I have 3 magazines too!
I got one off of a retired FBI agent who found it in his car. He offered to send it to me for 20 bucks to cover shipping. I sent him a money order for 150. Still have only one
And I love how the mag almost shoots out the bottom because of the mag spring. Get it clear for sure
S&W 1911 E Series. I absolutely love this gun.
I bought my Tok for the history, took it to the range and fell in love.
I could listen to Mr. Hackathorn talk about guns forever. Please do more like this. Would see an S&W revolver segment. I know Ken has a soft spot for the registered magnums.
More to come! Ken will share some of his revolver collection in a future episode.
@@gowilsoncombat The sooner the better! Thanks for all you do, guys.
I love watching and listening to Wilson’s videos. Like sitting around a table with folks who know what they’re talking about.
Really enjoyed Ken's walk down his favorite handguns and the bit of history shared on a few of them. Always a pleasure - truly hope that Bill & Ken continue to offer up videos, which share their thoughts on a given handgun(s). Actually would listen to you two talk about almost any topic; such a nice, easy chemistry between these guys. Much appreciated, guys!!
I like the way my cz75 compact fits. Unlike glock and its ilk, It aims where I look.
I own a 75 compact W decocker
That was fun as fishin. Thanks much
Thanks for taking the time, as always gentlemen.
Love that Tokarev at the end! I have a Chinese and thought the same as you. From a refitter’s point of view, the gun should last forever. Everything is replaceable, upgradable, interchangeable and easy to get to. Ammo is also a great little caliber.
Very Nice Presentation, Ken!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks. This was fascinating. I am recovering from a stroke, I lived, so I avoid content, too upsetting, yet this held my attention, despite all my guns being gone. (I was fond of white bone grips too)
Wow. That was a good use of 30 minutes. Thanks Ken
Glad you enjoyed it
Absolutely the very best Gun Guys/Wilson video to date!!! Thank you so much, Ken and Bill! I've got 1911s, Hi-Powers, Lugers, P-38s & a Tokarev. I learned a few things from Ken (as usual). I never paid any attention to the P-38s ejecting to the left. I am used to my very early 1911s and Lugers ejecting into my face or on my head. Idaho looks beautiful. Home to Ken Hackathorn and Elmer Keith. God's Country.
That was 33+ minutes well spent, thank you gentlemen 👍
Our pleasure!
Great episode! Always learn something from your channel. Great listening about Ken's favorite pistols but it also was a great lesson on the history of pistol development. Keep them coming!
In the 1980s I had a Sig P220 (.45 ACP) with the heel magazine release for duty carry. Ken mentioned the changing of the magazines and it brought back memories...the magazine was easy to change as he described.
Great video...thanks.
Utterly amazing collection Ken, thank you for the history and smithing lessons as well !
Great video Ken! I'm an old timer like you and have had nearly all of them except a Tokarev and a P-38. I remember back in the
60's how cheap the surplus ones were! A few semi-auto's come to mind when mentioning the removable sear assembly, including the SIG P210. I believe the .30 Tokarev round is very close to the .30 Mauser round and are nearly interchangeable. I been told that the Tokarev round is hotter. Never knew that the P-38 ejected to the left. I could listen to you two talk guns all day! Thanks again! Great!
I'm with you Bill I use the revolver grip on the 1911.
Now I can throw your name around. Bill Wilson does.
I had a Bren Ten on order but never got it- that seems like lifetimes ago. Shooting was one of my hobbies when I lived inthe U.S., and I shot everyday (many times going with friends more than once a day). I also owned a significant amount of property and had my own range. I live outside the U.S. now and I don't even own a firearm anymore- very sad, but that's the way it goes sometimes. I watch these videos because these gentlemen were so much of my past and it's very nostalgic for me to see them. I was trained and worked with John Farnum and shoot "thumbs up." Not many of us anymore.
Great video,,,,,beautiful 1911’s love them. What a walk thru history! Thanks for sharing!
That was enjoyable, entertaining, informative, and educational! The history, influence, and unique features of some of the early pistols was fascinating, and I learned a lot. Fantastic video gents. I absolutely love learning from two of the greatest “Gun Guys” ever! Can’t wait for the next episode. Thanks from Wyoming!
Love listening to the knowledge you gents have on firearms. Thank you for sharing it with us.
Really enjoyed the video.
Thank you.
When you two sit I will be listening and watch this twice. Well enjoyed show here.
You can really tell hes passionate about his guns.
My favorite is a Wilson CQB, thank you Mr. Wilson for them.
Love the Gun Guys videos, thanks Ken for great info!
Favorite, Bren 10. I Saw that Mr. Hackathorn had an older 1911 with a gold bead front site. It was his personal carry weapon when he was in law enforcement. The "Gold bead" front site is a forgotten gun fighter favorite. I have a friend who owns a First generation, Nickel plated, Colt Single Action Army, chambered in 44-40. It has a 4 3/4" barrel, real ivory grips and a brass front site. He has a "Colt factory letter" on the gun. If I remember correctly the gun was made in 1878 and shipped to a General Merchandise store in up state New York. We figured a lawman bought it and had the front sight replaced by a gun smith. Who ever carried it did so on horse back for many years because the ejector rod holder is very worn on the end, from bobbing up and down in the leather holster. Man I wish that old gun could talk!
Some neat guns in your video. Must be something about Idaho. I have two Bren Tens, a Luger, and a byf44 Walther P38, and a Pachmayr .45 ACP. Real interesting story about Bren Ten magazines that I got from Mike Dixon. They had somebody already set up to make magazines for them, and had paid him something like ten thousand dollars. When it came time for him to start sending the magazines, Dixon called him. His number was disconnected, and they couldn't fine any trace of him. Or their ten grand. They started frantically searching for someone else to make magazines for them, and after weeks of searching, the only place that would make magazines for them was Mec-Gar, who, unfortunately, was in Italy. By the time the first shipment of Mec-Gar mags arrived, Dornaus & Dixon was already being sued. There were other problems as well, but the magazines were the big thing. That was pretty much the end of the company. I also have the original box and paperwork. I even have a Bren Ten poster.
I could listen to Ken talk about dirt and be entertained haha. Love these vids.
You’ll never ever find guys like these guys when they pass on that’s the trouble no days ya we have alot of great ones out their but the history and the knowledge these to have along with the experience can’t be match at all period
I could listen to you guys talk about guns all night awesome vid
Glad to see the Tokarev made your list! I’ve always loved the caliber, and the way the FCU can be changed is something I thought was way ahead of it’s time. Sig does a similar thing now, but for a military gun, it was a great idea if you had the replacement FCU available to troops in the field.
Yep, I love Tokarevs too. On this list, the Tok and the Hi Power would be my favorites.
Actually, I’m surprised he hasn’t noticed, but the P210 also has the FCU. An older pistol, so maybe they stole it from SIG.
@@nissanguy16
TT33 - designed in 1929.
P210 - designed in 1947.
People like you should not procreate.
Excellent! Thank you both! Wonderful presentation. So much learned.
I am 83. I used to have a large collection. I am keeping the guns that I plan on shooting. I sold my P38 and my Luger 1918. Today my favorite gun is my CZ PO9. I really like my Tokarev.
I really like the Walther P38!
First time someone let me try one years ago, I was amazed at how smooth and accurate shooting it was!
As I noted above, the P-38 is one of my favorites. You can start a good collection of P-38s and P-1s pretty cheaply; there is a huge variety to choose from. Careful, though, it's a slippery slope! --Old Guy
Very interesting thank you. I am a revolver guy, but I love the hi power.
Great video, it’s so good to hear old time guns guys discuss firearms. A lot of knowledge between those two guys. Thank you
Yes I've watched this video before, and I'll be watching it many more times, very much enjoy these vids. Again, thank you both.
Mr.Wilson if u happen to read this...Thank u for what you've done for firearms enthusiasts in America...I hope the 300HamR gets the attention and mass acceptance it deserves
Grand tour guys…thanks!
I watched for the Bren Ten. Always loved that piece. Ashamed D & D had their problems and had to fold.
Loved getting to see some of your favorites Ken, thank you for sharing. I especially liked the Walther p38 and Tokarev my father has a brace of Cz-52's in the same 7.62x25mm caliber that I have very fond memories of shooting as a young man. I had always heard the 52 compared to the Sig p210 which was also a fantastic addition on your list! Good health & God speed to you gentlemen.
I just fixed up a CZ-52 and really enjoy shooting it. I think that if the Jetsons cartoon featured a firearm, the 52 would fit right in. I’m wondering who (like your father) would still have these as it was very short-lived. I found a guy that makes wood grips for it and waiting on those to pretty it up a bit.
That was great. Loved learning so much about pistols I'm not very familiar with. I suppose my favorite pistols were my old High Standard match pistols. They have been sold and gone several years but they provided many years of enjoyment.
Great historical firearm video. This video will exist 100 years from now. Take. care to.preserve it. Thank you
Always enjoy listening to you both!!! I have learned a lot from what you all bring to the table. Appreciate you all taking the time to spread your knowledge and experience. My son says, "Ken sounds just like you dad!" LOL! One of my favorite guns is my Wilson Ken Hackathorn Special 5" in 45 of course!!! Love it. The more you all spend time talking about the 1911 the more I enjoy it. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. You all have great taste in your guns!
So blessed to have boys that love shooting, hunting, and guns! They are looking forward to getting their hands on the collection when the time comes.
Great stuff fellas. two absolute experts talking pistols. Awesome!
Greatest Episode i ever seen. Greeting from Germany
👍👍👍 "It shoots real bullets." Real guns (like yours) do that!
thank you Ken!!
OMG! When he took out that Bren Ten I nearly died😍
Awesome episode of gun Guys Mr. Hackett's on awesome collection Keep up the good work gentleman👍👍👍👍😁
So glad he pulled out that Hi-Power towards the end.
I learned a lot in this video thank you Mr. Hackathorn.
Ken your killing me with all those 1911s man
What is this scammer
Excellent work men..
Loved the history in this video! Blew my mind!
Great video… love the history behind these guns