Apparently there is a quote from John Carmack (from Quake and Doom fame) "Computer graphics programming is more complex than rocket science"... this comes from a guy who has made both of them.
Entirely believable too. The computer systems in some of these launch platforms are from the 60s. The math is certainly complicated, and the rockets and shuttles themselves are certainly cutting edge, but yeah, the tech required to render realistic, interactive 3D models is certainly more complicated than what is essentially an ignition switch.
@TheBlueStig this is *only* true if you assume 3d models in a vacuum, and literally displays your ignorance of what it takes to make a realistic and non-matte 3d model. If a 3d model has to interact with physics or/and light(yes, they are different), you are objectively wrong. Rocket science is comparatively easier cause the universe has constants, whereas 3d modeling requires way more variables. Like purpose, intention, meaning, light source location, indication of other objects, and even how color changes based on context.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 I've been into 3D modeling for the last 20+ years running every program from Milkshape to Blender to 3DSMax. It's easier to create and animate a 3D model than it is to do animated 2D graphics with tons of frames for each motion.
It was his design that he patented, and then Nasa dug through the patents and copied it off his patent filings without paying him royalties, if I remember right But apparently his patent documents were so screwed up they couldn't sort out what he was trying to do and it kept tearing itself apart, so they had to finally call him in, admit they stole the plans without paying him royalties, and have him sort it out At which point the story goes 'aha! Now Bruce Willis has Nasa over a barrel and can demand anything he wants or else he won't help them!' while glossing over _If you don't help EVERYBODY DIES BRUCE AND YOUR PATENTS AND MONEY ARE MEANINGLESS_
@@pierrelaplant7926 The government must follow all laws on patents that regular private citizens do. The only way for the US government to bypass the patent protections is if they go through the due process to confiscate the patent due to national security. In order to legally confiscate the patent, the original owner must be compensated for their patent being stripped from them. You don't have to sell something to violate a patent. Creating a patented item for your own personal usage without permission is a violation. The government creating unlicensed copies of patented inventions without compensation of any kind is illegal, because that is straight up theft via government agents. The US Constitution was explicitly written to prevent government from just being able to take things from private citizens without due process or compensation.
My little sister saw this before I did and 10 year old me was SO convinced she was full of shit when she told me Bruce Willis dies at the end. I distinctly remember telling her "Bruce Willis can't die?!?" because my logic was that he was too famous as a hero to be killed on screen. I'm so glad I understand story now.
Oh it's funnier than you think. Astronauts have to train to be geologists so they can provide good research data about what they see. They would 100% know about drilling as it's used to obtain core samples in geology.
and yet ben had a point lolz personally at that level I woulda waited a day for something better to come in....i'm sure a script where the hero sits on a cactus the entire movie would be less painful than a bay movie lolz but seriously I woulda done another of those little indie movies he did if i was him lol, even for pretend whatever i do has to make sense or I just get embarrassed lol pretending i'm fighting on a catwalk above an exploding volcano is more doable than a Bay movie plot IMO all you'd have to tell me is why are we fighting? in your mind he stole your girl, in his mind you're evil! okay let's go to the races!!!! [describing SW ep3 there] you're a miner telling a rocket scientist how to make an industrial drill?? wait whut?? how?! just....OMG what a shit show!
also. astronaut is one of the most interdisciplinary careers out there. i would not be surprised in the slightest if nasa already has astronauts w experience in the oil drilling industry.
@2:00 ..... I *literally* love how this was done, despite not having a clip, because this captures the general vibe of the channel FAR better than that clip *ever* fucking could have. 😂♥
I think that drilling is more complicated than 'press a button and go'. That said, drilling is easier when you are just drilling a hole and not drilling to retrieve something like water/gas/crude oil. Drilling to hit a specific point (not depth but point) takes some wild skill and math since they will sometimes drill horizontally to get between plates of stone. There are some cool stories behind the art of modern-day drilling. But digging a hole straight down is not one of them. Now, if they were told they had to drill around plates of iron, which they seemed to constantly run into, that would need the team they had... But they didn't even do that.
It was used. They actually spent their whole budget on somebody frame by frame editing the creases out of the green screen. Then, as that felt unnatural, frame by frame put some in in the right places. This might feel unnecessary, but it's like people being put off by hearing actual hoof sounds in films and expecting coconut shell sound effects. The actual creases would put us way off, so they have to cgi them in. Whoever did it in this video (I think it was Karl's first time to do it himself?) did a great job of getting the exact same green on top of the actual green. As proven by you not noticing. As they say: The best cgi is the one you don't notice is there.
Karl’s “actor quirk” is that he doesn’t know what to with his arms. He’s constantly fidgeting around awkwardly with his arms lol…. But, to be fair, having to stand in 1 place for so long in front of a camera would make anyone feel awkward. Keep up the great content! 👍
I may be Mandela affected here but I'm sure there is a shot in Transporter 3 where a lambo drives through a billboard and the billboard explodes leaving the car unaffected. 😂
In this day and age, I've had to separate action movies into two categories. Realistic, and over-the-top. The best realistic action film is John Wick, and the best over-the-top action film is Shoot 'Em Up. But God, do I love watching The Rock.
Would owning the cars in the movies increase the value of the cars? So he's investing in them multiple times- 1. The brand - good resale 2. The movie prop - better resale 3. Owner - someone just creamed themselves just thinking about owning the car. = Priceless.
I'm a nuclear engineer and i can tell you it's a lot easier to train an experienced mechanic to move safely around radioactive systems than it is to train an experienced nuclear operator to fix a pipe.
I mean, to be fair, Ben Affleck seems to keep forgetting that half of Harry's crew are at genius level intellect. Harry himself did design the drill that NASA stole the plans to, it's addressed in a scene. So Harry is at least a brilliant engineer of several disciplines. All of his best friends are also of genius level intellect. As revealed in the medical clearance montage. Ben Affleck plays the dumbest character in the film.
The oil drillers were astronauts in away that the rich people who took those trips to low orbit were astronauts. Operating the drill by vibration was a intangible skill that isn't taught and may not be a thing in real life but it was in that movie. You drill through the earth the drill vibrates and puts tension on its various component depending on the composition of the strata. You here the components feel the vibration you make a decision to keep from breaking your bit. Not saying thats a real thing but it was in the movie, it is a intangible and those skills aren't taught kind of like floating a manual transmission. You learn it after somone gives you a overview of how its suppose to work. Maybe being a geologist gave tom hanks character some insight into this intangible. Actually easier to teach a suvillain how to manuever in low gravity and to use nasa versions of tools you use everyday then try to teach a intangible to a astronaut or anybody else. Five days time scale doesn't help. This isn't to say Michael bay was thinking of any of this. It was just cool for him to make some sort of spacecowboy reference of a entire movie.
Those americans who go off about how they get sarcasm are liars and jerks. I'm an american and I will freely admit that I don't get sarcasm at all. As a huge homo, I can get camp, but that's pretty much the only form of irony that I have an affinity towards.
I believe the directors episode was back when they were still linked with Disney for some reason. I think it was an agreement for studio space or something.
This channel is so amazing for essentially being 2 or 3 people just talking. The audio quality needs to upgraded to fit with the rest of the content. Well done chaps, cheerios. 🍵
To be fair, in a week, it probably is better to teach the oil riggers than it is the astronauts. The mission critical aspect is drilling to a certain depth, within a certain time, into a material with relatively unknown properties, in a hostile environment. An astronaut, let alone two teams of them, are not going to become expert drillers within a week. Just like you're not going to get an oil rigger to be an expert astronaut within a week. However, you don't need the drillers to be expert astronauts, you just need to teach them how to not die for a few hours in space. An actual astronaut can do the rocket science stuff, which is what happens in the film. To illustrate it further, if they had to do brain surgery on the asteroid, they'd teach the brain surgeon how to not die in space, rather than teach the astronaut how to do brain surgery.
I can't watch Mike bay movies due to how illogical they are...I love action and spectacle when it serves the story, Bay movies only serve the spectacle and cus of that I just can't get on board with em....i require intelligent movies or smart action that goes somewhere like john Wick!
Karl doesn't know the difference between Lambos and Ferraris. The Bad Boys clip was a Ferrari 550. Plus the yellow "Ferrari" in The Rock was actually a kit car based on a Pontiac Fiero, they did NOT destroy a real Ferrari for that movie. You could see the Pontiac chassis when it rolled and the fiberglass door panels came off.
If Ben Affleck hates the premise so much, maybe he should write his own movie about a blue collar worker who winds up being smarter than PhDs. THEN HE’LL SEE IT’S NOT SO EASY
The only way I would rewatch Armageddon if the entire commentary is just Ben Affleck insulting it 🤣
Let's petition commentary featuring Ben and Karl.
yes same
"And here's where Michael lost his shit and just started telling the explosives team to 'just blow up everything'"
Good news then
I'd watch that, live feed of Bay's face would be a bonus
Apparently there is a quote from John Carmack (from Quake and Doom fame) "Computer graphics programming is more complex than rocket science"... this comes from a guy who has made both of them.
Entirely believable too. The computer systems in some of these launch platforms are from the 60s.
The math is certainly complicated, and the rockets and shuttles themselves are certainly cutting edge, but yeah, the tech required to render realistic, interactive 3D models is certainly more complicated than what is essentially an ignition switch.
@@GeebusCrust Rocket science is Algebraic Trigonometry. Displaying 3D models is Geometry. Carmack was only right when discussing 2D graphics, not 3D.
@TheBlueStig this is *only* true if you assume 3d models in a vacuum, and literally displays your ignorance of what it takes to make a realistic and non-matte 3d model.
If a 3d model has to interact with physics or/and light(yes, they are different), you are objectively wrong. Rocket science is comparatively easier cause the universe has constants, whereas 3d modeling requires way more variables. Like purpose, intention, meaning, light source location, indication of other objects, and even how color changes based on context.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 I've been into 3D modeling for the last 20+ years running every program from Milkshape to Blender to 3DSMax. It's easier to create and animate a 3D model than it is to do animated 2D graphics with tons of frames for each motion.
There's more technology in your phone then in the Apollo moon landing shuttle computer
How far we've leaped
Mildy entertaining fact: Bruce Willis's character did indeed build that drill. It was his own design. Lol
It was his design that he patented, and then Nasa dug through the patents and copied it off his patent filings without paying him royalties, if I remember right
But apparently his patent documents were so screwed up they couldn't sort out what he was trying to do and it kept tearing itself apart, so they had to finally call him in, admit they stole the plans without paying him royalties, and have him sort it out
At which point the story goes 'aha! Now Bruce Willis has Nasa over a barrel and can demand anything he wants or else he won't help them!' while glossing over _If you don't help EVERYBODY DIES BRUCE AND YOUR PATENTS AND MONEY ARE MEANINGLESS_
@@NutjobGTO thats not how patents work, they aren't selling the drill, so they don't owe him royalties
@@pierrelaplant7926 The government must follow all laws on patents that regular private citizens do. The only way for the US government to bypass the patent protections is if they go through the due process to confiscate the patent due to national security. In order to legally confiscate the patent, the original owner must be compensated for their patent being stripped from them.
You don't have to sell something to violate a patent. Creating a patented item for your own personal usage without permission is a violation. The government creating unlicensed copies of patented inventions without compensation of any kind is illegal, because that is straight up theft via government agents. The US Constitution was explicitly written to prevent government from just being able to take things from private citizens without due process or compensation.
My little sister saw this before I did and 10 year old me was SO convinced she was full of shit when she told me Bruce Willis dies at the end. I distinctly remember telling her "Bruce Willis can't die?!?" because my logic was that he was too famous as a hero to be killed on screen. I'm so glad I understand story now.
Martin Freeman can't help it. He's got resting puzzled Brit face.
He does always look vaguely confused
Thanks for letting me know I apparently need to watch Afflecks Armageddon commentary. 😂
Oh it's funnier than you think. Astronauts have to train to be geologists so they can provide good research data about what they see. They would 100% know about drilling as it's used to obtain core samples in geology.
I'm now imagining Ben Affleck being like Donny in the big lebowski and Michael bay telling him to shut the fuck in increasingly frustrated tones
You're out of your element, Ben.
and yet ben had a point lolz
personally at that level I woulda waited a day for something better to come in....i'm sure a script where the hero sits on a cactus the entire movie would be less painful than a bay movie lolz
but seriously I woulda done another of those little indie movies he did if i was him lol, even for pretend whatever i do has to make sense or I just get embarrassed lol pretending i'm fighting on a catwalk above an exploding volcano is more doable than a Bay movie plot IMO all you'd have to tell me is why are we fighting? in your mind he stole your girl, in his mind you're evil! okay let's go to the races!!!! [describing SW ep3 there]
you're a miner telling a rocket scientist how to make an industrial drill?? wait whut?? how?! just....OMG what a shit show!
Can’t believe they went through the entire video without mentioning I don’t wanna miss a thing 🎶
My favorite explosion is From Dusk Till Dawn intro Benny's liquor store going up while Seth grills Richie.
also. astronaut is one of the most interdisciplinary careers out there. i would not be surprised in the slightest if nasa already has astronauts w experience in the oil drilling industry.
I am so glad for the Pain and Gain shoutout. I unironically adore that movie. Big dumb Rock is the best.
Best internet coming together for me is the Thanos perfectly balanced clip having equal like to dislike ratio.
25:40 this is the single funniest thing Karl has ever said on Fact Fiend. It is even funnier than the last funny thing he said.
Choosday innit?
@2:00 ..... I *literally* love how this was done, despite not having a clip, because this captures the general vibe of the channel FAR better than that clip *ever* fucking could have. 😂♥
complete out of character "The prestige" is a good "Bay" film with no explosions...
Is Christopher Nolan
In his defense affleck does have a face you’d want to tell shut the hell up
10:30 They actually did say that Bruce Willis's character designed the drill rig
Rewatching the scene, yeah, they raided the patent office for the design but botched putting it together. They couldn't read his plans right XD.
@@SalinaMoonfall Must've been shit plans if even rocket scientists messed it up XD
@@irishdc9523could be damaged documents. Wouldn't surprise me if his character screwed up patenting them, it would take up valuable time drilling
the proper way to watch a michael bay movie is to turn off your brain and just melt into the couch as you let the explosions wash over you
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🎶Doofenschmirtz reference on Fact Friend🎵
Great video brad, nisha and karl keep it up
I think that drilling is more complicated than 'press a button and go'. That said, drilling is easier when you are just drilling a hole and not drilling to retrieve something like water/gas/crude oil.
Drilling to hit a specific point (not depth but point) takes some wild skill and math since they will sometimes drill horizontally to get between plates of stone. There are some cool stories behind the art of modern-day drilling. But digging a hole straight down is not one of them. Now, if they were told they had to drill around plates of iron, which they seemed to constantly run into, that would need the team they had... But they didn't even do that.
Second nomination for factually elastic film: the mummy.....my super guilty pleasure.
One of my fave behind the scenes bits X3
You know what I hate about the Brits is that they generalize too much
Pain and Gain is a f*cked up film, because it is a comedy movie about a real crime. The guy that they kidnapped almost died.
It's weird to see the green screen not being used but great video as usual :>
It was used. They actually spent their whole budget on somebody frame by frame editing the creases out of the green screen. Then, as that felt unnatural, frame by frame put some in in the right places. This might feel unnecessary, but it's like people being put off by hearing actual hoof sounds in films and expecting coconut shell sound effects. The actual creases would put us way off, so they have to cgi them in. Whoever did it in this video (I think it was Karl's first time to do it himself?) did a great job of getting the exact same green on top of the actual green. As proven by you not noticing. As they say: The best cgi is the one you don't notice is there.
Frrr yall need to do that thing where you'd say something and a picture would appear
Armageddon is a great film. This is a hill I will die on. Michael bay from 1994-2007 was a mad genius
Karl’s “actor quirk” is that he doesn’t know what to with his arms. He’s constantly fidgeting around awkwardly with his arms lol…. But, to be fair, having to stand in 1 place for so long in front of a camera would make anyone feel awkward. Keep up the great content! 👍
I miss when the green screen was used
Can you please put all of your videos into one play list so I can bin watch them all.
"Martin Freeman-ing it" 😄😆😂🤣
I'd argue that point, but I remember once answering a yahoo question, that somebody named "Don't answer, just testing features."
The neighbor from Disturbia's kids went to school with me. David Morse is a solid actor
I may be Mandela affected here but I'm sure there is a shot in Transporter 3 where a lambo drives through a billboard and the billboard explodes leaving the car unaffected. 😂
Can you please do a video of how The Rock is "connected" the James Bond Franchise?
There is a sarcasm format for all fonts - it's italics leaning in the opposite direction. But noone knows about it or uses it.
I fking love that video clip commentary LOL
Also obviously we didnt send oil drillers to the asteroid irl. It was OBVIOUSLY forklift certified drivers
Michael Bay make things go boom
Michael Bay makes* things go boom.
@Michael Deal no he make big boom and big big flash
@@capncrunch6209 no he makes* big booms* and big big flashes*, cuz he can't stop at one lol
@Michael Deal lol you're right he's gotta stretch the movie to feature length somehow
dont forget about glass being a huge spoiler for bruce willis
Damn im quick
Carl’s back
The drill was his design in the movie
The strangest thing about Pain and Gain by Michael Bay, true story
Could be worse
Could be "The Core"
Which upon reflection is sort of the same basic plot except their ship goes down whereas it goes up in Armageddon
Except the core knew what it was. It even explains why its plot is bullshit then continues like nothing happens.
Armageddon plays it straight.
The Rock IS in fact. The greatest action movie ever made.
Keep up the good work gentle-brits.
In this day and age, I've had to separate action movies into two categories. Realistic, and over-the-top. The best realistic action film is John Wick, and the best over-the-top action film is Shoot 'Em Up. But God, do I love watching The Rock.
Your acting quirk is when you have a drink in your hand, and take a drink, LOL
Wait... is Speed by Michael Bay?!? ... Turns out no, dang
Yes he designed the drill
Can you please boost the volume on these just a little bit?
Something about a lot of American movies is the theme of "smart people are so stupid."
No. It's not just push button drill go. Just ask BP how difficult it can get.
the drills where supposedly built off of his character's design.
Fun video as always
I wish I was just decent at Mortal Kombat
Would owning the cars in the movies increase the value of the cars? So he's investing in them multiple times-
1. The brand - good resale
2. The movie prop - better resale
3. Owner - someone just creamed themselves just thinking about owning the car.
= Priceless.
Michael Bay and Zack Snyder are probably a good sign we should stop letting ad directors into filmmaking
Armageddon isn't a good movie. But it is entertaining. Steve Bushimie is an oil drilling astronaut.
Steve Buscemi is the only rewatch value in that movie.
I'm a nuclear engineer and i can tell you it's a lot easier to train an experienced mechanic to move safely around radioactive systems than it is to train an experienced nuclear operator to fix a pipe.
Ay, quick thing, don't feel bad for picking on Bruce Willis. Dude is actually just a bad person.
I would enter the MK11 tourney but I haven’t been sponsored to play since season 1. Even Karl would prob beat me at this point lol
I mean, to be fair, Ben Affleck seems to keep forgetting that half of Harry's crew are at genius level intellect. Harry himself did design the drill that NASA stole the plans to, it's addressed in a scene. So Harry is at least a brilliant engineer of several disciplines.
All of his best friends are also of genius level intellect. As revealed in the medical clearance montage.
Ben Affleck plays the dumbest character in the film.
I like the Russian cosmonaut character.
been a minute since i been this early
I've noticed that Carl has that quark about having a big wanger
didn't power ranger also do an episode with the same concept of armageddon?
So did The Simpsons.
The oil drillers were astronauts in away that the rich people who took those trips to low orbit were astronauts.
Operating the drill by vibration was a intangible skill that isn't taught and may not be a thing in real life but it was in that movie.
You drill through the earth the drill vibrates and puts tension on its various component depending on the composition of the strata.
You here the components feel the vibration you make a decision to keep from breaking your bit.
Not saying thats a real thing but it was in the movie, it is a intangible and those skills aren't taught kind of like floating a manual transmission. You learn it after somone gives you a overview of how its suppose to work.
Maybe being a geologist gave tom hanks character some insight into this intangible.
Actually easier to teach a suvillain how to manuever in low gravity and to use nasa versions of tools you use everyday then try to teach a intangible to a astronaut or anybody else.
Five days time scale doesn't help. This isn't to say Michael bay was thinking of any of this.
It was just cool for him to make some sort of spacecowboy reference of a entire movie.
Those americans who go off about how they get sarcasm are liars and jerks. I'm an american and I will freely admit that I don't get sarcasm at all. As a huge homo, I can get camp, but that's pretty much the only form of irony that I have an affinity towards.
ERB copyright struck you wtf?
I was about to say that! I can only hope it's automatic.
I believe the directors episode was back when they were still linked with Disney for some reason. I think it was an agreement for studio space or something.
NASA: uses Michael Bay movie as a introduction to space program.... *ALSO NASA* IMMEDIATELY EXPLODES ALL SPACE SHIPS
The crazy bustard did it. Just hope arenaisfree starts turbo bagging for nostalgia
Is Karl actually Arena Is Free?
This channel is so amazing for essentially being 2 or 3 people just talking. The audio quality needs to upgraded to fit with the rest of the content. Well done chaps, cheerios. 🍵
To be fair, in a week, it probably is better to teach the oil riggers than it is the astronauts. The mission critical aspect is drilling to a certain depth, within a certain time, into a material with relatively unknown properties, in a hostile environment.
An astronaut, let alone two teams of them, are not going to become expert drillers within a week. Just like you're not going to get an oil rigger to be an expert astronaut within a week. However, you don't need the drillers to be expert astronauts, you just need to teach them how to not die for a few hours in space. An actual astronaut can do the rocket science stuff, which is what happens in the film.
To illustrate it further, if they had to do brain surgery on the asteroid, they'd teach the brain surgeon how to not die in space, rather than teach the astronaut how to do brain surgery.
I totally don't get sarcasm.
Nooooo, really? 😂
I can't watch Mike bay movies due to how illogical they are...I love action and spectacle when it serves the story, Bay movies only serve the spectacle and cus of that I just can't get on board with em....i require intelligent movies or smart action that goes somewhere like john Wick!
Karl doesn't know the difference between Lambos and Ferraris. The Bad Boys clip was a Ferrari 550. Plus the yellow "Ferrari" in The Rock was actually a kit car based on a Pontiac Fiero, they did NOT destroy a real Ferrari for that movie. You could see the Pontiac chassis when it rolled and the fiberglass door panels came off.
Armageddon is a brilliantly bad movie and a badly brilliant movie.
Oh im actually early for once
That leftard should have heeded Sensei Bay's sage advise.
If Ben Affleck hates the premise so much, maybe he should write his own movie about a blue collar worker who winds up being smarter than PhDs. THEN HE’LL SEE IT’S NOT SO EASY
First in this bih
First!
I would have smashed this tournament. Played MK since its release and one of the best players in the UK