Gurdjieff in Armenia
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2023
- A film about George Gurdjieff with Armenian sub-titles containing original and rare footage of his movements and music from the 1920's.
This is Part 1 of "The Seekers of Truth" made by Jean-Claude Lubtchansky, a close associate of Madame de Salzmann, with the support of the Gurdjieff Institute in France.
The film covers the basis of his teaching in his own words and is best viewed in full screen on a television or laptop.
George Gurdjieff was born in 1867 in Gyumri (formerly Alexandropol) in Armenia. His father Ivan was Greek and his mother Yeva was Armenian.
Osho described Gurdjieff as one of the most significant spiritual masters of this era and indeed this is a film well worth watching.
Gurdjieff's teaching is fully described in the book called "In Search of the Miraculous" which can be read at www.gurdjieff.am
The French version is at:
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The old film clippings are haunting and powerful beyond belief.
s is one of the most extraordinary documentaries I've ever seen and heard - in keeping with its theme.
Je vous felicite tous d'un oeuvre sans egale, qui touche profondement a l'ame. Vous demontrez ce que
nous avons perdus dans le monde et sur la terre. Mais ces images et les paroles de M Gurdjief demeurent.
Merci de tout coeur.
'You have the worst art collection in Paris.
'I don't see it that way. Each painting I bought was from a struggling artist who put his heart and soul into it.'
Thats humility.
I am a grandfather from Iran and love Armenian people .This is a good Document and I like it .Thank you very much John A !🌹
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I discovered the book "meetings with remarkable men " in my early teens and I was very deeply affected by it . I ran away from home in order to find my own path throwing my school books off the ferry to England, unfortunately my mother with the help of the police found me in London and brought me back to finish school. I wonder how my life would have been had she not found me. Thank you for bringing back these memories.
wow. this motivates me
it's never too late to run wild again.
She offered you a cop out and you took it.
There was no, "path not taken,"or, "what if."
I guess you are an adult now....
Probably not ?
I am 67 though.
It comes to mind: 'where there is a will, there is a way.' This simple man - part explorer, part mystic, part philosopher, lived life on his own terms. While watching the documentary, I kept asking myself how on earth did he finance his endeavours! He certainly had a good head for entrepreneurialism and raising funding. Amazing life.
I was in a Gurjieff group in Warwick, NY, in the 70's. Thank you for this remarkable historical documentary. ❤
And has it helped you a great deal in life ?
Never saw Gurjieff at all. I did go to "Tai Chi Farm" in Warwick N.Y. for many years. What a wonderful adventure.
A world wide yearly event opened the season, (spring) when serious Old World "Masters" from all over the world would fly in, to teach ANYTHING they chose and got very close with students.
VERY OPEN. VERY RUSTIC sleeping on rotting wood floors in old stead’s with no A/C, Heat, Water, plumbing, or electricity people jammed in from all over the country.
One of the GREATEST LEARNING TIMES OF MY LIFE.
@@AL_THOMAS_777 it transformed my life forever...I remain to this day on the spiritual path, mostly as a Buddhist these days but always fascinated by all mystical spiritual teachings from all religious traditions and Gurjieff and my Gurdjieff teacher hold a special place of gratitude in my heart forever....they showed me the path to Work on myself.
Warmest regards to you!
@@6571239 Keep relaxing and allowing yourself the time to work on finding that "needle in a haystack" "dont go clutching at straws" and that external straw that you may grasp maybe "the straw that breaks those with the hump's back"
Love be with you always keep a little bit of love in you
You deserve it
Me too.....Boston group & Warwick for work weekends.....
very important for me in my life.... Living in Lexington MA...
It is still overwhelming, now at 76, seeing that everything of any significance to my life is owed to this Man. The Universe does not have an expression for the thanks I feel.
G was my first spiritual 'trickster' and lead to my first great revelation. Then came Ouspensky and study society in London. I followed Maharishi my second 'trickster' for a decade. All fifty years ago.
Now I wait in this 'conceptual life' with no ambition...day by day. Listen to various voices with no expectations.
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I don't see him as a trickster at all.
Given self revelation demands seemingly Hercullian effort task, most often lethargy is named divine revelation.
@@harmoniabalanza He comes out of this documentary well. Not so well out of his own writings.
I lived in Tflis for 3 years , I was in Gurdjeff Institute in Italy and UK for 8 years. Then abruptly I lost the path. Thank you for sharing this document, it is so real, it makes me cry. I miss the path, that path. The path of remorse.
Thankyou for your story.
Surely it's also a path of peacefulness, quietude and occasional moments of joy?
You should write a book about it.
I am with the commentator below, in that your remembrances would make an extraordinary book. I do not have to know you to know this is true. And, I often remind myself that the great teachings throughout history come from men. A woman has a different relationship to life, even as devotees of great men.
Very, very impressive! Thank you.
Is Tflis not another name for Tbilisi? Howcome Armenia is always in turmoil? Sort of like Afghanistan....
Can’t believe it, brings me to tears how beautiful this is. Thank you for sharing this.
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Ah those wonderful images! Minarets, covered markets, camel trains and desert ruins ,caravan serais and dust storms. Maybe I was there in a previous life? It sure speaks to me.Thanks John A
Անչափ շնորհակալ եմ։ 🙏Ինչպիսի՜՜ ԳԵՐԱԳՈՒՅՆ հաճույք ու հոգեկան վայելք:
The quality of the black n white photography n gurdjieffs voice n the music r spellbinding ❤. His endless travels n enterprises compelling. A life well lived. 😊
that's putting it mildly.
Lovely to see all that contemporary film of the movements and of Gurdjieff himself. And to hear Gurdjieff's teaching in a distilled form. Thank you!
Remarkable footage of the sacred movements. Thankyou .
A sensitive, remarkable rendering of what life can be.
Superbe film. Beau travail. Chaque seconde est une vie.
A fantastic leap in the past with a master guide❤❤❤
Remarkable film for the story, the quotes, the rare photos and film, and for the beauty of the music and movements vignettes.
I spent an evening with a Gurdjieff group in Phoenix many decades ago. What struck me was how the leader corrected a girl who moved her head and blocked his view while he was addressing me. He corrected her rather brusquely. They were very much into awareness to the subjugation of kindness.
Yes, I found the Gurdjieff people a little uptight, and over-worshipful of their ‘master’. Some good advice on mind and body though.
It is a cult. One of many created by men. Pride is the greatest of sins. All of those that create cults believed that they have the absolute truth. That is a very dangerous path to follow.
I am happy to see the biography of Gurjieff we all need to understand it in order to realize it and especially to implemented within ourselves. God blessed You
Thank you for this gem, especially at this moment of time in which humanity has to face so many challenges.
@2222isabella TO PUT it v e r y mildly ..barrymcguirewise ...
Really appreciated.
Thank you !
Greetings Anita from Tilburg the Netherlands
This is a superb, riveting account. Thank you very much. Part one of Seekers of Truth.
Superb. Thank you. Truly sublime.
Amazing documentary : THANKS XX
What a genuine soul, what a powerful mind, what insight, and what a legacy, reading every sentence of what he taught, his writings, is such an eye opening humbling experience, a true legacy, for his stature, his name is not known nearly well enough.
Thank you so much...so beautiful...
I am Iranian and many things in this documentary, music's, dances, pictures, teachings resonate deeply with me and my culture.
Thanks for sharing 🙏
What a beautiful documentary, amazing work!!!Thanks for uploading , this is art.
Absolutely invaluable. Thank you for your work.
All I have done is to upload the film, which was made by Jean-Claude Lubtchansky with the support of the Gurdjieff Institute in France. Its necessary for others who are interested in Gurdjieff's teaching to see it as well.
the music is sublime. I notice that some of the movement exercises were used by my theater and dance teachers in the 1970's esp the STOP exercise.
I was in a Gurdjieff school for many years in Northern Cali. It is wonderful to see the places and peoples I read and studied about. This is wonderful material, and the music
Is extraordinary. Thank you very much
Can you write about that experience?
Did you find yourself?
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@@robertovitale7491 Not likely to have been a legitimate 4th way school . . .
I very much enjoyed the film of his life, well done thank you x
Nice to meet you my new friend of the Friend💨🌹
Many spiritual teachers come to Realisation after a crisis. However one has to first be ready for that crisis with deep preparation. A preparation with the questions, who are we, why are we here, what is our purpose? Only then can the crisis become an opportunity to awake. Gurdjeiff shows this so beautifully so that we can understand that ordinary is truly extra ordinary. Truly blessed to have seen this documentary. Deepest gratitude for all those who put this remarkable video together. 🙏
Osho respected Gurdjieff a lot. Thank you for the documentary!
Agreed. Osho said a lot about Gurdjieff: "George Gurdjieff is one of the most significant masters of this age. He is unique in many ways, nobody has said things in the contemporary world the way Gurdjieff has said them. He is almost like another Bodhidharma or Chuang Tzu, apparently absurd but in reality giving great pointers towards the liberation of human consciousness."
Yes Osho respected Gurdjieff as equal in Nirvikalpa state of consciousness...
Osho was a fraud. As for Gurdjieff, I am afraid that reading Meetings with Remarkable Men left me thinking that this was not a good man.
@@andrewhughes7642 if u meet an enlightened man who knows gurdjieff, isn't it obvious to guess the path he took
@@andrewhughes7642don't talk about our osho like that you ignorant person 😤 only great men understand another great men guess you are not understanding or a great person u jus closed minded man who knows nothing about osho so shutup
Thanks for this production. Came at the right time for me. Great stuff
A remarkably beautiful and sensitive documentary. Rich in its historical and spiritual nature. Thank you John A.
Mister John A, many thanks for sharing this precious documentary. It was very interesting.
Knew about Gurjieff...in relation to Katherine Mansfield. Didn't know he had a Greek father and Armenian mother. Have watched until very late...with sore eyes....A message much needed. Many thanks.
A true gem, thank you so much!
What remarkable photography and film clips and footage. These added to a very compelling story make for an amazing documentary.
good question and nice reply
A very rich intellect, Armenians have an amazing discovery of self, "they are never far removed from the soul"...❤
Thankyou for uploading this first instalment. Hope to see you reach your first milestone of 1000 subs soon!
Wonderful to see the Movements, hear his compositions and get a glimpse into his life. Excellent documentary. Thank you for loading.
WONDERFUL, THANK YOU for SHARING !!! Read a bit Gurdijeff starting my spiritual journey - he definitively influenced my thoughts. LOVE the ENERGY of this, just beautiful :-) Well done, good work - spreading LIGHT & CONSCIOUSNESS ! Blessings, love & light
what a gem!!!
LOVE THIS! TY! Thank you, kindly! So important for my studies, and development! TY! TY! TY!
Thank you for this remarkable and beautiful documentary. It's very much appreciated.
Poetische Dokumentation💖Er war ein Suchender der Göttlichkeit im Innen und Aussen des Menschen - jenseits aller religiösen Doktrin . Hoffe seine tiefe Suche hatte Erfolg.
Beautiful story, and wonderful narration!
Once I travelled to Kars to see that church building where Gurdieff sang as a child.
Did you see it?
Beautifully done! Thank you so much for sharing it.
Thanks very much!!
Thank you so very much for this incredible documentary. It really brings a remarkable man to life for me.
Excellent use of archive film footage & photos with "Gurdjieff" voice over to give a feel of authenticity.
NO SABIA QUE ESTE DOCUMENTAL EXISTIA, GRACIAS A QUIEN TUVO LA DELICADEZA DE COMPARTIR
En español:
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Zeer interessant! Boeiend. Inspirerend. Wijs. Een mooi portret van een wijze dienstbare ziel die de verbinding zocht tussen velel beschavingen, landen, talen, religies, nationaliteiten. Steeds op zoek naar essentie. The unity!!!
As Constancewalsh wrote: hauntingly beautiful and powerful...a stirring of the soul. Watching Gurdjief's era, i feel such a loss for contemporary men. There is a lack of supportive fellowship for men who are seekers. Maybe Robert Bly is right, with no men of true wisdom to converse with, to learn from our men have become spiritually stultified. Where can they go to learn more about being a man? We have defaulted to a society of siblings.
Perhaps we can consider the work of Dr Gabor Mate and Dr Kathleen Speeth. Wise souls each in their way. And Speeth certainly emerges from the Gurdjieff stream in the USA.
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Agreat help for all of us,inspiring and educatif. A BIG thank you, for bringing to us a great soul and teacher .
thank you for sharing this very well made Doc. It was better than the movie in sharing his dynamic and valuable life....what can you say , A Unique Human Being an Esoteric Christian.
Wonderful.Thanks for uploading
Thank you Mr. Lubtchansky
This is an exceptional work. Thank you.
Thank You for the passionate work❤
Thank you
A welcome addition to the Work. Thank you.
Thank you!
Bringing light to a remarkable man. Thank you!
I did that "stop exercise" when I was babysitting my minister's children - while I played piano - I would suddenly stop playing and they had to freeze in whatever position they had been dancing in!
This was useful to me -- props . . .
Beautifull original music.
It is Gurdjieff's and de Hartmann's own music
This documentary brings back happy memories of my departed husband who had Gurdjieff’s Meeting With Remarkable Men as a “livre de chevet” ( bedside book)., which I also read. Thank you for uploading this. I now understand more about this extraordinary seeker and teacher.
props
Dear brother John, this is really mesmerizing and so inspiring for any seeker of deep & ancient truths. Thank you so much for having uploaded this gem which slow pace is itself soothing and rewarding for the soul. Also, it allows one to understand that the dance scenes in the movie ""Meetings With Remarkable Men" are based on reality. Thank you again & namaskar🙏🙏
Increíble, bello, ejemplar...❤
John A, do you know about the other two films of this trilogy "The Seekers of Truth? I liked this video greatly ❤
@robertoponce8077 Hi Roberto - yes I will upload the other parts in due course. There is quite enough information to absorb about Gurdjieff's teaching just in part 1!
Fantastic. Thank you!
This is excellent- thank you
he was a zen therapist. "Don't multitask. It makes you a lunatic."
Kiaora for this gift ❤
Remarkable story. The inevitable question whether in our own view such a person accomplishes anything of value - or anything of lasting worth to society - can induce us to think more rigorously about our own beliefs and priorities.
This is one of the simple laws of octaves,
Whatever you think of your work and your intentions , all of it is meaningless
Because we dont decide, Truth always finds its path
I know of around 10 million people Gurdjeff touched and still touches
He took all of us and showed us what happened to us and boy did we need to know
All of the external search in exotic locales is what can be depicted in this visual medium. Even the spoken and written word does not fully communicate even a single central point of what Gurdjieff is saying to those who will listen -- that we are asleep. Not a metaphor, but something that can with the right kind of aim, help, and considerable effort, be established for oneself, by one's own direct experience.
Naturally, since our own view is "that's crazy", or perhaps because we have "thought rigorously" about the proposition and dismissed it -- the inevitable question you have referred to never can arise. This is also referred to as "The-Terror-of-the-Situation."
@@robertphillips93 There are Sheep Wolves and Shepard's,
Sheep are always asleep and should remain so
Wolves are asleep in a nightmare
Shepard's are wolves that have woken up
Its paramount to make sure your not working on waking up sheep, as that's a waste of time
You need to be able to determine a wolf from a sheep
@@robertphillips93 CONGRATS. The penultimate comm is yours, and the only intelligent, "profound" 1 !!! (just read them all thru..) Says it all about Yt levels these days. However, not sure if I understand it. Could you elaborate a bit, tu ? I postulate, the same said here, and likewise in your comm, could be said about most any occult/mystical thinker/category builder from whatever school of thought : take Krishnamurti, Sankara or Kierkegaard 4 3 ... There is such a vast quantity of semi-useless, language-exerted limitation and intentional obfuscation around in the oversimplified, constantly transmogrified internet era that the perennial virtues of reach7ng the source-knowledge have VIRTUALLY become untenable i.e. written into the wind ..(that,7, btw came up unintentionally, a proof I maybe connected to the real gold standard ...(?).
Suggest concentrate on leaving language behind, enter into cosmic nothingness & everythingness thru nonverbal, verbiage-free approach - such as the latest NDE research results have indicated. (And the Tibetan Book Of Dead much previously ..). The way to the Light is just a matter (or a Mater) of time. It ll take a path of its own. All answers may be much simpler than what we can deduct from within our fleshy fatigues ... All doctrines remain imperfect, all systems succumb. Causality makes way for itself by itself. Wolfgang Pauli was close. Just refrain from killing. Be humble, but be strong. Just wait & SEE 🇫🇮
So beautiful.
Gurdjieff said that most people are not trully conscious during their lifetime. The solution to becoming trully or fully conscious can be found in Zen or Tibetan Dzogchen (Mahamudra), both of which are focused on precisely that. No need to look for some special guru. The solution comes from you working on the quality and intensity of your awareness, the knowing that you know. Just do that.
How is your electro magnetic communication going ?
focus and observe and do not lie to yourself.
as zen says do what you're doing when you're doing it.
Thank you for this
Touching ! Thank you !
Finally, yes.
Gurdjieff master of infinit
Thank you John A
My grandparents were from a Greek village outside Kars Geitsa Yenice and were part of the population exchange in 1922 between Christians and Muslims, and moved to Greece, they had a terribly difficult life especially ww2 when italians invaded then the germans/bulgarians invaded, then the civil/communist war , but they were always resilient people , Pontic Greeks commemorate on May 19 353,000 Pontic Greek victims of the Young Turks genocide alongside the Armenian and Assyrian genocide. It was quite fortunate that Russia was in charge and protected the Christian populations. The Russians liberated Trapezounta for a little but then the bolsheviks made a mess of everything. In Turkey today you still have the imam by day and priest by night as they don’t trust the govt of Turkey, one never knows when this authoritarian govt will turn on its Non sunni population
This very well made film was put here five months ago - so here it is: your Christmas present.
Liebender John A
Freudig sah ich erstmalig eine Lebensdokumentation
von Gurjieff und meine Bitte ist dafür auch eine Übersetzungsmöglichkeit
einzustellen Mein Englisch ist sehr einfach...
Dankesfreude Segen und Herzensmut
Dir Joachim Antweiler
Lieber Joachim, ich werde den Film bald mit einer deutschen Übersetzung veröffentlichen. Grüße
Liebender Bruder @@JohnA-
oh freudigen Herzensdank Dir
This is an incrdible document, thanks so much for posting. Many of these pictures of the great master I have never seen, amazing. I encourage any young people to look into this work. I was focused for many years on it with great effect. It's worth the effort!!!
Beautiful
Piotr Demianowicz Uspieński - Fragmenty Nieznanego Nauczania pdf. Mam tę książkę w realu. Data wydania to lata 90-te ubiegłego wieku. W necie istnieje również wersja anglojęzyczna pdf. Mądra książka, która nadal dla wielu jest niezrozumiała, a my poszliśmy już dalej.
The book In Search of the Miraculous by Ouspensky can be downloaded as a PDF file from www.Gurdjieff.am
@@JohnA- I gdziekolwiek indziej. Wystarczy wpisać nazwę. Gdy uczeń jest gotowy, wtedy mistrz nadchodzi. Pozdrawiam.
Who is this voice of the narrator, he has this quality-presence-beauty, like some amazing children's narrator?
+ Thanku for all this! 💜🌸🍀
Hi the narrator as far as I know is Jean-Claude Lubtchansky
hey, thank you! @@JohnA-
This movie makes me in an objective sense to fall asleep. Otherwise it has priceless photos and camera shots in it.
Gracias por compartir esta joya. Y poder escuchar el relato en la voz del propio Gurdjieff . Pone en contexto en que difícil época (sumando la guerra )el viajo a diversos los lugares sagrados en busca de lo ¨milagroso¨ el conocimiento real e intento enseñarlo. Fue uno de los primeros Maestros en mostrar diversas practicas , Sufismo, Budismo, Cristianismo esotérico y traerlas a occidente. El 4to camino , el trabajo persistente, permite al hombre civilizado(con un centro magnético activo) intentar ¨estar en el mundo y no ser del mundo¨ Intentar Despertar del sueño ... ¨La gota retorno al Océano y eso fue todo ¨
Thanks for sharing this gem. And to be able to hear the story in the voice of Gurdjieff . It puts into context the difficult time (including the war) that he traveled to various sacred places in search of the “miraculous”, real knowledge and tried to teach it. He was one of the first Masters to show various practices, Sufism, Buddhism, esoteric Christianity and bring them to the West. The fourth way , persistent work, allows civilized man (with an active magnetic center) to try “to be in the world and not be of the world” Try to Awaken from the dream … “The drop returned to the Ocean and that was it”
I agree with your appreciation of this video -- it is very accurate in its content. But I trust that you mean the words of Gurdjieff (from published works) rather than the sound of the man himself speaking. I believe most of the recordings still extant of his speech were of very low quality and usually in more social, rather than instructive settings.
Fascinating and extraordinary.
I'd read about him. but this brings him to life in an immediate way and those images are beautiful.
Deep stuff: Saw the movie 50 years ago and still have it on DVD
wonderfull life interesting