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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2023
  • Pop Goes the 60s continues the Beach Boys series with this Part Five installment that picks up after the failed Smile album in the summer of 1967. Each album is given a close look between Smiley Smile and Surf's Up in 1971, including three Albums That Never Were: Lei'd In Hawaii (1967), Reverberation (1970) and Landlocked (1971).
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  • @paxtonmusic9864
    @paxtonmusic9864 8 месяцев назад +81

    Thanks again for another great series of videos! I was Brian Wilson's personal assistant for a couple years starting in the summer of '92 right after the family got rid of Eugene Landy. I learned quite a bit about all the shit that went down. It was a weird gig, to say the least. I will say though, as troubled as Brian was, he really was a good guy. It took a while for me to gain his trust at first as he was, rightfully so, a tad bit suspicious of anyone new in his life. But as he got comfortable, we were able to talk about the past. I left after two and a half years to pursue music, but I am grateful for that time in my life. I have some good stories!

    • @president-electfreddy-krue3866
      @president-electfreddy-krue3866 8 месяцев назад +8

      This was probably the greatest Beach Boys documentary ever. Along with the other 4 parts, I'd say, it was definitely the best. and, I've seen them all.

    • @Gorilla.Guitar
      @Gorilla.Guitar 8 месяцев назад +1

      ive watched several of his *interviews* post- smile. & oft noticed inconsistency in his "condition".. he'd be eloquent, eager to answer, confident in one. the next, he looked horrified, un-intelligible & so uncomfortable i could feel the tension three thousand miles & 40yrs away. did you ever feel like he was "up-playing" his condition & used it to insulate himself when he felt he needed to?.. it just seems too inconsistent to me. but, i'd be lying if i told you i knew anything about human conditions or sensitivity, lol.. im probably singular in my opinions.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад +7

      Thank you for commenting, how interesting that you worked for him. I can't imagine all the crazy that went on!

    • @paxtonmusic9864
      @paxtonmusic9864 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@popgoesthe60s52 It wasn't too crazy during my tenure. Things had settled down a bit because they managed to get rid of all the bad actors. It was mostly his mental state at the time which was up and down. but as I said, he was a good guy underneath it all. He did record a couple things with Don Was producing that never got released. Looking back, it seems those sessions were more therapy than anything else. Anyway, great job as always. I love your work!

    • @paxtonmusic9864
      @paxtonmusic9864 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@Gorilla.Guitar No, he never up-played his condition. All that is real. It's just like you said, he'd be comfortable at times and terrified other times. It must have been hard for him because I'm sure he was troubled that so many pop stars of his era were out there working and he wasn't. Sad in a way because had his career and health been managed better, he could have given the world even more of his wonderful music.

  • @wink853
    @wink853 8 месяцев назад +26

    Dennis really started shining during this period. He was so under rated

  • @genebrenner855
    @genebrenner855 8 месяцев назад +29

    The Beach Boys were way ahead of the ecological curve with "Surf's Up", a great album in my opinion.

    • @marcyfan-tz4wj
      @marcyfan-tz4wj 8 месяцев назад +2

      "friends" is a classic beach boys song in my opinion and i'm happy to hear matt say "regardless of chart position, it wasn't a reflection on their single release's quality".

  • @wasteofspace20
    @wasteofspace20 8 месяцев назад +29

    Insanely generous contribution to the rock history community, so many of us are grateful of your work and love your production values!

  • @terryprill2510
    @terryprill2510 8 месяцев назад +13

    Surf's Up brought me back into giving the band a listen again. I was so impressed the first time I pulled it out of my buddy's albums stack that I went right out and bought the 8-track and wore it out until it was stolen from my car and wasn't available anymore at the time, ironically it got stolen while I was attending a Beach Boys Holland tour show.

    • @jeffreyg4626
      @jeffreyg4626 8 месяцев назад +4

      Surf's up is a great album. I even love the album's art work which I can't say about any other Beach Boys albums.

  • @paulcarpenter999
    @paulcarpenter999 8 месяцев назад +5

    This era after the band "missed the counterculture bus" in 1967 gets often ignored, thanks for shining a light on it.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад

      My pleasure, Paul. Some great music can be found in this era.

  • @rEdHoUsE_1969
    @rEdHoUsE_1969 8 месяцев назад +5

    I'd argue despite a slump commercially & criticism by the rock 'intelligentsia' ... this a really productive musical time for the Beach Boys ...
    I think your analysis Matt ... hopefully gets people to revisit this period in the Beach Boys career and give the music another chance ...

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад +2

      This is my favorite period. Sure there are some clunkers, but the gems are their best!

  • @michaelrochester48
    @michaelrochester48 8 месяцев назад +8

    Beside trying to get Billy Hinsche they also attempted to bring back David Marks… in 1969 when The Beach Boys played Boston, David Marks actually sat in with the band for a few songs, and was given the option to rejoin the band. He declined because he was actually going to Music school. I asked David about this at Chiller comicon and he confirmed this.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад +3

      I did not know that about David Mark being an option. Thank you, Michael!

  • @oldermusiclover
    @oldermusiclover 8 месяцев назад +3

    Brian is still someone I wish I could meet just to say Thank You

  • @JoeyArmstrong2800
    @JoeyArmstrong2800 8 месяцев назад +9

    I recently spoke to my 75 year old dad about The Beach Boys. Strangely, He said they were popular but never really considered "cool". I love this channel because of discovering music I just never knew existed.

    • @jonathanbaggs4275
      @jonathanbaggs4275 8 месяцев назад +5

      That's true. I remember in the latter 1960s if you admitted to listening to the beach boys you were considered "square" and "not with the times."

    • @JoeyArmstrong2800
      @JoeyArmstrong2800 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@jonathanbaggs4275 It's too bad because there's some great stuff in there. So strange the culture changed so quickly. You look at 1964 it's crew cuts and poodle skirts and then 1968 it's long hair and acid. You'd think there was 10 years in between. Must have been a crazy time to come of age.

    • @jldraw
      @jldraw 8 месяцев назад

      @@JoeyArmstrong2800It’s my opinion that Generation X saved The Beach Boys long after the rest of the world no longer had use for them. Your father’s opinion seems to be very much in the norm in regard to how The Beach Boys were perceived in the nineteen sixties. They were very much tied to that staid conformity that typified the type of culture that was embraced on shows like “The Donna Reed Show”, a culture which baby boomers were actively rejecting by the end of the sixties.
      In 1973, the film “American Graffiti” was released ushering in a wave of nostalgia for baby boomers as the social/political climate began stabilizing towards the median. Mike Love in particular was swept up in this wave of nostalgia and the following year when Capitol released a compilation of the band’s early “surf ‘n’ car” hits entitled “Endless Summer” that met with widespread success, Love (along with Al Jardine) decided to capitalize on this wave of nostalgia and exclusively turn The Beach Boys into a nostalgia act.
      The band would still release new music in the ensuing years but would historically come to be regarded as one of the first major catalog artists of their generation. It was only in the nineties with Generation X coming of age that The Beach Boys were discovered and ultimately embraced by a younger generation of music fan that absorbed books, box sets and the legacy of a band that had been abandoned by baby boomers in the late sixties and had given up the ghost themselves in the mid seventies.

    • @Gorilla.Guitar
      @Gorilla.Guitar 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@jonathanbaggs4275 your dad was spot-on.. The big advantage the beatles had, for all their talent, timing & brian epstein was their appearance, lithability, & collective magnetism... say what you will but its true. the beach boys were bloated, all different height, mike love was already going bald & smoking a tobacco pipe in public... people came to SEE the beatles, if they played songs & you heard them, that was a bonus. nobody came to see the bloated wilsons & the bald mike loves wearing barbershop striped shirts & white pants that fit them 2yrs ago, lol. the songs were great, thats why some showed up.

    • @richardosullivan8102
      @richardosullivan8102 8 месяцев назад

      And yet the image to the press and media had changed in the early 70s they had been praised for both live performances and artistically inventive quality recordings, I really couldn't say how the attendance figures were around this time or even sales figures but I do know that the In Concert album was well advertised in record shops with good displays made up of just the cool album cover showing the inside and out.
      Seeing the rise in interest the record companies went into overdrive promoting first the hits packages and then lesser know songs.
      In the UK they were headline news with their Wembley performance along with the Eagles, and the solo Joe Walsh all providing good preformances with the exception of the headliner Elton John but on a hot sunny day coming on after The Beach Boys would have been hard especially as Elton John may have misjudged his material played that day.
      The stage is set for the next great and highly anticipated Beach Boy album 15 Big Ones with it's great well set out collage of photos on the inside on the gatefold LP cover edged with concert ticket stubs very impressive but really that is where the album starts to struggle some very nice covers song but very little powerful original music which on reflection they did have within their grasp but they overlooked.
      They did release a lot of material in the late 70s some of it is very good but they didn't show the best version of the Beach Boys, you never get the universal response even from fans "wow that album was great" yes they have ridden high on the wave of nostalgia ever since which is a bit of a shame and they even couldn't build on the praise given to That's Why God Made the Radio.
      A Beach Boy fan who will always want more because even if some of the music didn't reach expectations most did and is excellent,the good is so good!
      From one who is grateful for the sumptuous meal of music that has been laid out before us .

  • @christopher9152
    @christopher9152 8 месяцев назад +8

    I love this Beach Boys series of yours, Matt. In particular, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Surf's Up, and Sunflower all hold up well today, in my view. Dennis, Mike Love, and Brian all wrote or co-wrote some overlooked gems during this period: Time to Get Alone, Little Bird, Be Still, Aren't You Glad, Country Air, All I Wanna Do, This Whole World, Forever, Til I Die, etc. And then of course there are the excellent Smile era tracks that were released on these albums, like
    Cabinessence and Surf's Up.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад +1

      I appreciate your patience while I've been getting these done!

  • @billleary5779
    @billleary5779 8 месяцев назад +10

    This is possibly my favorite period for the band. Sunflower and Surf’s Up are two of my favorite albums from the group. I also enjoy Wild Honey, Friends and 20/20. Thanks for keeping this series going Matt! Happy Thanksgiving!

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад +3

      Happy Thanksgiving to you too, Bill. I have to go downstairs and start the pies - grandma's crust recipe. 🙂

    • @billleary5779
      @billleary5779 8 месяцев назад

      @@popgoesthe60s52 sounds good…enjoy!

  • @president-electfreddy-krue3866
    @president-electfreddy-krue3866 8 месяцев назад +3

    This was the singular most awaited documentary EVER. I've NEVER been so anxious for anything as The BEACH BOYS History Part Five. I was worried it would never come to be. But, Matt delivered. He covered extensively a chapter in BB History which most documentaries totally overlook.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад

      This is my favorite period musically and having grown up in the generation that followed, I didn't know about them "not being cool."

  • @ChromeDestiny
    @ChromeDestiny 8 месяцев назад +4

    Surf's Up has some excellent outtakes, a longer mix of Til I Die and Fourth of July.

    • @kc0lif
      @kc0lif 8 месяцев назад +1

      till i die my favourite beach boys song.

  • @John_Fugazzi
    @John_Fugazzi 8 месяцев назад +6

    Thanks for covering this rather murky period of the Beach Boys. A number of big pop groups vanished when '68 got heavy. What amazes me is that the Beach Boys stayed together and kept putting out albums even when no one seemed interested. The image thing was very important.

  • @johnyarusso4953
    @johnyarusso4953 8 месяцев назад +3

    I remember Surfs up was heavily promoted on the radio at the time and this is when my friends and I really started to get back in to them again. Great job Matt.

  • @ShelleeGraham
    @ShelleeGraham 2 месяца назад

    GREAT 👍 work on part 5. I’m so pleased to learn a few things I hadn’t heard before! Much appreciated. These albums 20-20, Sunflower 🌻, Surfs 🏄‍♂️ Up are really unique and enjoyable albums. Thank you.

  • @jackybluj
    @jackybluj 8 месяцев назад +5

    I think I need 20/20 in my collection, and I'm not a Beach Boys fan. I'm so glad I watch your videos, Matt! 😊

  • @egojonesband
    @egojonesband 7 месяцев назад +1

    Never heard "Well You Know I knew" before, what an incredibly beautiful little piece of music from Dennis, even though its so simple and really only just a demo track, those harmonies are haunting - reminds me lot of CSN

  • @robertfontaine356
    @robertfontaine356 8 месяцев назад +3

    The Beach Boys had a revival (of sorts) in 1973 thanks to the George Lucas film American Graffiti. Although the scene in which Surfin` Safari is featured has the character of John (Paul LeMat) telling his young passenger "I hate that surf s**t" and declaring "Rock and Roll`` has been going downhill ever since Buddy Holly died". Still, the soundtrack was hugely popular and introduced a new generation of music fans to early sixties rock & roll. Sometimes, if you hang around long enough, you become hip once more.

  • @susanaltman5134
    @susanaltman5134 7 месяцев назад +1

    A standout on stack of tracks is Let Him Run Wild. The backing track is so beautiful - it deserves a hearing on its own.

  • @philipsavell
    @philipsavell 8 месяцев назад +6

    Jerry Garcia listed Smiley Smile as one of his favorite albums.

  • @calvinguile1315
    @calvinguile1315 8 месяцев назад +1

    A couple of the tracks from Friends kind of reminds me of The Kinks a little, also, I never realized that a lot of their material from Pet Sounds on, charted higher in the U.K

  • @THECLARENCES
    @THECLARENCES 7 месяцев назад +2

    Long live the memories of Dennis & Carl Wilson. xoxo The Clarences

  • @ministerofdarkness
    @ministerofdarkness 8 месяцев назад +4

    This is truly my favorite era of the Beach Boys! All the records are sooo good!!! Friends & 20/20 are my favorites but Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Sunflower, & Surf's Up are all fantastic!! Highly recommend the box set Feel Flows!! Excellent video as always Matt! Happy Thanksgiving and PLAY LOUD!

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving to you too!

  • @corkpop8401
    @corkpop8401 8 месяцев назад +1

    Another well documented delivery. Kudos for not punking out on the Manson connection and also for not dwelling on or over blowing it. The BB were becoming more and more irrelevant with each album they released. Two things saved them. Because of their back catalogue they were still fondly remembered and as they persevered so did their dwindling fan base. Surf’s Up brought them back to life and to chart activity. I remember a 1974 show where after an hour of ‘unknown’ tracks they broke out the hits and it was pandemonium. We then realized than even when they were uncool, they were still amazing. Their fans were still there all the time.

  • @jameswatson5370
    @jameswatson5370 8 месяцев назад +1

    Well You Know I Knew that you played here actually has Charles Manson playing the acoustic guitar. Glad you like Time To Get Alone, its my all time favorite Beach Boys song.

  • @syater
    @syater 8 месяцев назад +2

    A great history and assessment of sticky but often musically fruitful era for The Beach Boys. Many things of which I either wasn't aware or only partially aware. Looking forward to the upcoming period when Carl catches the flame !

  • @buzzawuzza3743
    @buzzawuzza3743 8 месяцев назад +3

    Fantastic look at the lean years! I had forgotten some of these tracks but they all came back in the snippets you played. Whenever you finish this series it could become a huge documentary focused on their music instead of some other docs that just want the sensationalism. Next time we get Pacific Ocean Blue! Rock on!!!

  • @nolagospeltracts8264
    @nolagospeltracts8264 8 месяцев назад +3

    Imagine going to a rock concert and having to sit through a TM lecture.

    • @deirdre108
      @deirdre108 8 месяцев назад

      That would keep me away.

    • @Neal_Schier
      @Neal_Schier 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@deirdre108George Harrison was doing something similar wasn't he? Much to the chagrin of many audiences...

    • @deirdre108
      @deirdre108 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@Neal_SchierYes and just as bad.

  • @georgeprice4212
    @georgeprice4212 8 месяцев назад +2

    I don’t know why people were so pissy about Smiley Smile…other than it wasn’t Smile. I first heard Smiley Smile, paired with the Wild Honey album, on the 1990 twofer cd. There was definitely some odd tracks, but that (to me) was part of the beauty of the album: it wasn’t the same Beach Boys material they were known for.

  • @GonzoDuke
    @GonzoDuke 8 месяцев назад +2

    An absolute fantastic retrospective!

  • @kirby_craft
    @kirby_craft 8 месяцев назад +2

    I’m really enjoying this series! I think ‘a day in the life of a tree’ is a beautiful and poignant hidden gem in their catalog, I don’t know if the story about Brian tricking Jack Riley into singing the lead vocal is true or not but he definitely gave an impassioned performance and the pipe organ gives the song a unique intensity

    • @Harriet-Jesamine
      @Harriet-Jesamine 4 месяца назад +1

      Glad I am not the only one who feel the same.👍

  • @kulturkriget
    @kulturkriget 8 месяцев назад +1

    "Psychedelic Barbershop" was a perfect description.

  • @johnnymonroe
    @johnnymonroe 8 месяцев назад

    This series is perhaps the finest of your band histories, Matt, and serves as a reminder of so many great post-'Smile' tracks I'd all-but forgotten about. Your hard work is much appreciated.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, Johnny - I appreciate that.

  • @alanlurie2895
    @alanlurie2895 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for part 5!! You go into such great detail. In 45 minutes I learned so much about the Beach Boys that I never knew. Can't wait for the next part!

  • @charlesbronson4282
    @charlesbronson4282 8 месяцев назад +3

    Sunflower is my favorite album. I think it's their best...

    • @burlingtonbill1
      @burlingtonbill1 8 месяцев назад +1

      I absolutely agree. Shows the great divide between ARTISTIC brilliance and COMMERCIAL success.

    • @edwardmulholland7912
      @edwardmulholland7912 8 месяцев назад +1

      I’m with you on that one, the album is consistently good all the way through. Friends of mine prefer Surfs Up which is also great, though more uneven.
      Dennis really shines on Sunflower and Carl shines on Surf’s Up. Great band.

  • @pierreverweij5559
    @pierreverweij5559 8 месяцев назад +1

    Rock solid episode! Already looking forward to #6 when the Beach Boys come to Holland

  • @redihip
    @redihip 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks Matt, I live in an alternative realm where I remove the counterculture reaction to the Beach Boys failure to still be relevant at certain point in the later sixties.I love all the new music that came about then, but it's amazing how the Beach Boys despite the dysfunctional challenges of family and music biz ,and having to dodge Manson for cripes sake, they created my favorite run of Beach Boys music. I will always defend Smiley Smile. And everything up to Holland.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  7 месяцев назад

      Yes, this was quite a productive time and their work hold up well against their contemporaries, even if it’s not as loud and raucous.

  • @MidosujiSen
    @MidosujiSen 5 месяцев назад

    Great video, this is the third of this series I watched and all have been very enjoyable. I gotta say though, I thoroughly disagree with the notion that the Friends album cover is bad. I think its one of, if not the most fitting cover in their discography, and a perfect representation of the music.

  • @bobburroughs6241
    @bobburroughs6241 8 месяцев назад +1

    Stage outfits aside, listening to the '67-'68 music now (not at the time!) shows how out of touch they had become. Certainly in England we were now heavily into the sounds coming from the great bands in the States and seeing many live. The track 'Surf's Up' is an all-time top ten favourite though, still played regularly and one of those that still sends a shiver down the spine. At last an album that shows that they were made for these times.

    • @burlingtonbill1
      @burlingtonbill1 8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks to you Brits for keeping our Boys viable during the leanest years here at home. I've been a fan since 1964 and will always be grateful for guys!

    • @bobburroughs6241
      @bobburroughs6241 8 месяцев назад +1

      Saw them in London in '66!

  • @hammer44head
    @hammer44head 8 месяцев назад +1

    Wow Matt, i think this part 5 is the best video and history dive you have done!! You have really outdone yourself this time! Though i will have to agree with Neil Young and say The Day in the Life of a Tree is a great song, i have always loved that one. Thanks Matt!!!!

  • @davesparks9503
    @davesparks9503 8 месяцев назад +2

    Great job Matt...you hit the high spots quite well and covered some of the background in this period that I was not fully aware of.. the "Real Beach Boy Dennis Wilson" video is a decent watch for anyone interested in this era of Beach Boys history. Once again a job well done sir and have a good Thanksgiving.

  • @DocDoccus
    @DocDoccus 8 месяцев назад +1

    Another totally engrossing episode. I was unaware that Do It again came from this era as I though The Boys to be past their prime.
    The Dennis meets Manson segment was riveting. "And people thought Yoko was a problem!"

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад

      Always good to hear from you Doc! When I was going over the long list of problems the Beach Boys had during this time, the Yoko-Klein thing seemed pretty mellow by comparison!

    • @burlingtonbill1
      @burlingtonbill1 8 месяцев назад

      Read Tom O'Neill's "Manson, CIA & The 60's" if you want the real, full story. Written over a 20-year timespan! Just freakin' unbelievable what actually went on.

  • @christianstough6337
    @christianstough6337 8 месяцев назад +7

    The band deserves a lot of credit for keeping relevant for as long (up to mid 1967) as they did in the fast changing pop scene. These guys come from the in between period of the Golden age of R&R and the British Invasion. The British Invasion destroyed a ton of bands and all that was left after the Beatles burst onto the scene was Motown and The Beach Boys. So mad props for not only surviving , but progressing and thriving. And let's face it, The Beach Boys weren't the coolest looking band ever. No one's going to say, "Wow, those dudes sure are sexy!" And in pop music, that is an enormous liability. Their stage attire did not help at all in this. There was just not much that was cool about this band visually. And Hendrix''s dig was a fair criticism . They WERE like a barber shop quartet. The Beach Boys were always in danger of falling into nerd town. They just had so many uncool factors working against them. So the fact that they surmounted all of these HUGE obstacles and made great music we are still talking about is really all you need to know about the quality of stuff they produced. They had a great run of excellent work. One could make a very good argument that they were the most critically successful LA band of that Era. The Byrds and The Doors are close if not better, but The Beach Boys are right up there. But they easily critically outproduced a number of other LA bands like Love, Buffalo Springfield and Zappa. Growing up in Newport Beach in the mid and late 70's... sure, we mocked them , but we also dug them. Amongst the Beach community they were considered "of us". Were they goofy? Yeah, but they were also cool as fuck in the right moment. And we held them, as a surf band, in as high esteem as Dick Dale and the Ventures and the Surfaris and Jan and Dean and Wolly Bully and Telstar and I think this feeling was shared from Laguna up through Huntington Beach. I can't speak for farther north or south. None of us were turned onto Pet Sounds in High School in the late 70's early 80's, it wasn't on our radar- no one I knew talked about it. But by college I started to listen lot closer to what they put out in their mid period- and THAT was a revelation. Great band. But as I have said before, for me, after Good Vibrations- they are done. They have some spots, but it's over. Which is a shame. I think everyone was rooting for Wilson to get it together and make something awesome, but maybe that was the problem. he just wanted to live his life and be done with making music in public. And obviously, Wilson was (or went) bonkers-crazy, not as bad as Syd Barret or Gene Clark, but pretty darn close. The guy lost everything- his career, his band, his wife, his family- all of it. It is a miracle he kept what he did keep. As to Mike Love- I'm not a big fan, but he deserves almost all of the credit for keeping that band moving and going. And although I find him obnoxious , I don't begrudge him one bit for fighting for what was left and trying to keep something going after having the rug pulled out from under him. What else was he going to do?

    • @burlingtonbill1
      @burlingtonbill1 8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your comments and while I like what you wrote, simply can't agree about BBs work post-Good Vibes. Sunflower, Surf's Up and Holland is some of their best work ever.

    • @christianstough6337
      @christianstough6337 8 месяцев назад

      Nicely said. I am glad there are fans of those records. Have a good one. @@burlingtonbill1

  • @johnlorinc2081
    @johnlorinc2081 8 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent video once again. The immediate post-Pet Sounds era is filled with plenty of clunkers......but a lot of gems. IMO tracks like Aren't You Glad, Bluebirds Over the Mountain and especially Time to Get Alone are all time greats. As always, looking forward to the next part. Have a great Thanksgiving!

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you, John and a happy Thanksgiving to you too. I am about to start on the home-made pies. Grandma's crust recipe!

  • @Gorilla.Guitar
    @Gorilla.Guitar 8 месяцев назад +1

    great series on these guys. this episode especially. im a legit beach boys/brian wilson fan & ive learned things i never knew in regards to management, reactions, charlie manson & career salvage operations.. as usual, great job!.. i wish you could provide content for all things im interested in!

  • @leem6376
    @leem6376 8 месяцев назад +1

    Right on. I really look forward to and enjoy these retrospectives. Thanks for making them.

  • @randykirby2866
    @randykirby2866 8 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent episode Matt! The Beach Boy’s are a lot of work.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад +1

      Indeed - it's great to get this episode off my plate!

  • @hejla4524
    @hejla4524 8 месяцев назад +1

    All these records have their sublime moments, but the two that are consistently brilliant imho are 'Wild Honey' and 'Surfs Up'.

  • @70PaulK
    @70PaulK 8 месяцев назад

    Very illuminating video. I didn't realise just how prolific they were in the late 60s. Suppose their lack of chart success shows the importantance of image & journalism.

  • @false_binary
    @false_binary 8 месяцев назад

    What a saga...complete failure to adapt when the opportunities struck. Great episode here, looking forward to the next!

  • @pedrorocha9722
    @pedrorocha9722 8 месяцев назад

    The BB are a part of my childhood via my older brother and are a part of my life. I really love the album Friends (including the cover :) ) Diamond Head was mistifying to my when I was a child. The only thing I could say is that it is too short. And maybe it's just perfect as it is. For me, it's definitely their swansong creatively. And great to see that Pop goes.....the 70's !! Another great video.

  • @kc0lif
    @kc0lif 8 месяцев назад

    thank you. i just post comment on beatle video asking about part 5. i appreciate the effort. late 1960s & 1970s beach boys my favourite era. but any beach boy music is wonderful.

  • @Mr.-J-2024
    @Mr.-J-2024 8 месяцев назад +1

    Whew.. this is a great series Matt. Really enjoying this. Thanks. :- )

  • @islandhorizonvideos8230
    @islandhorizonvideos8230 5 месяцев назад

    I really enjoy your history series, I watch every one of them more than once.
    In the early 60's it seemed like The Beach Boys could do no wrong,
    and I know of many who think they never did. wrong.
    The whole idea that there was a time the Beatles were on top,
    then suddenly the Beatles who we now know, because of hind site,
    as the unbeatable juggernaut they are,
    releases one masterpiece after another.
    Before Brians problems were stress from touring, his father...
    Now he has the Beatles to compete with?
    I'd lose my mind too.
    As far as the rest of the band.
    Without Brian writing the songs and they just preform them.
    They had to become songwriters.
    I know a lot of people praise their post-Smile stuff,
    but a huge amount of those albums are pretty mediocre.
    I have grown up with those albums,
    because I had friend who lived in Huntington Beach in the mid-70's.
    I remember him playing those Beach Boys albums.
    I was playing him Elton John,
    come on, Elton's mid 70's stuff makes The Beach Boys music of that time,
    seem not worth the time.
    Part of it is the bands main problem,
    they have always been horribly out of touch.
    There was a time they were in touch,
    probably 1963.
    They seem to do it on purpose.
    Sure the Manson connection was pretty out there,
    but that be a little too far out.
    The huge difference between the Beatles and the Beach Boys,
    there are many, but this is a big one.
    Every time the Beatles released an album or a single,
    hundred would copy that and many will start careers.
    Then the Beatles release another album,
    making the groups that copied their last album out of touch,
    but then you. get another hundred bands with some that make it.
    The Beach Boys never did that.
    I still enjoy the early stuff, Pet Sounds and Smile,
    but onward just seems like you have to force yourself to like it.
    sorry this was suppose to be a short comment.
    and I hope it makes sense.

  • @vinylarchaeologist
    @vinylarchaeologist 8 месяцев назад +1

    Fascinating overview. I’ve learned a lot.

  • @codex3048
    @codex3048 6 месяцев назад

    44:54 Love your fantasy cover creations. The BBs should license these from you and put them out!

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  5 месяцев назад +1

      I agree! I know there would be an audience for them. How about a Record Store Day release? Thanks Andrew.

  • @riverbluevert7814
    @riverbluevert7814 7 месяцев назад

    Another great Beach Boys video!

  • @tunafish2521
    @tunafish2521 8 месяцев назад

    IMHO, and I am probably wrong, but their sound, harmonies, etc…just became so dated when the psychedelic period hit. It seems they tried to move away from that with some of Dennis’ stuff. Also, to me, this includes Mike Love’s vocals, whose vocals are unique and fit the pre-psychedelic period, but became wearisome thereafter. Overall, they were a great band whose hits and popularity exceeded their contemporaries, but their sound did not translate in the ever changing 1960’s music scene. Evolving into a great “oldies” band, providing happiness and great memories for your fans is a very good thing. GREAT WORK MATT!

  • @kpoleary1
    @kpoleary1 8 месяцев назад

    I saw The Beach Boys live twice in 1971. The first time was at the Tyrone Guthrie Theatre in Minneapolis and the second time at my school, Notre Dame. This was the best, most rockin' version of the band I ever saw.

  • @MikeE_Fab4
    @MikeE_Fab4 8 месяцев назад

    Matt! Thank you so much for this excellent 45-minute video. I'm a long-time fan of SUNFLOWER and SURF'S UP, so, thank you for your excellent research and awesome presentation. Part 5 is a grand slam !!!

  • @jeffclement2468
    @jeffclement2468 8 месяцев назад

    Whew! Another great job son. This was particularly special for me because I, like so many others, was not paying attention to "the Boys" during this whole era. Very informative. And what a rough ride for them! Thanks Matt 😻✌

  • @marktrimnell8245
    @marktrimnell8245 8 месяцев назад

    I'm in the UK, so I look forward to viewing this later. I've watched the previous episodes. I've learned a lot regards the Beach Boys from those episodes, much in the way that I've learned info on Lovin' Spoonful and other US acts on your channel. Keep up the good work, Matt!

  • @GilbertNeal
    @GilbertNeal 8 месяцев назад +4

    And it's interesting that both Brian Wilson and John Lennon wrote such profound songs about abandonment, loss, and insecurity. And both had terrible childhoods.

  • @rickstapenhurst4019
    @rickstapenhurst4019 8 месяцев назад

    I love your deep dives into the Beach Boys, the Beatles and other prominent/ interesting singers and groups from the 60s But largely missing is Elvis. He bookended the 60s, making some great music in the early 60s and late 60s, bookending the decade with no.1 singles and two fantastic albums (Elvis is Back and Something for Everyone in 1960/1 and the 68 Comeback and From Elvis in Memphis in 1968/9). There were also some great hidden jams in the mid1960s (e.g. It Hurts Me, Memphis Tennessee, Down in the Alley, Tomorrow is a Long Time, Big Boss Man, Guitar Man).

  • @andrewgeraci8798
    @andrewgeraci8798 8 месяцев назад

    I had never heard about this era of The Beach Boys. Some amazing stuff. Thanks for sharing all this

  • @Thomasgene
    @Thomasgene 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you! I hope to come back to these reviews after I sit down and listen to them again!

  • @edwardgonczy3170
    @edwardgonczy3170 4 месяца назад +1

    "Surf's Up". A masterpiece. And showing up to jam with Grateful Dead at Fillmore East didn't hurt.

    • @julianciahaconsulting8663
      @julianciahaconsulting8663 3 дня назад

      which Beach Boys showed up to jam with the Dead? what songs did they do together?

    • @edwardgonczy3170
      @edwardgonczy3170 3 дня назад

      @@julianciahaconsulting8663 It was the 1971 incarnation because the Fillmore East closed its doors in summer 1971, so probably Carl, Al, Mike, Blondie, Ricky Fataar and Dennis. The rest is shrouded in mystery and history. Legend has it they did two songs. Probably if you google, more accurate information may be available. But I have heard this story from multiple sources. I saw 15 shows at Fillmore East including Grateful Dead 5 times, The Who 3. I saw Ten Years After, Van Morrison, QMS, Country Joe and the Fish, Traffic, Eric Clapton with Delaney & Bonnie and Friends. I left the New York metropolitan area late summer of 1970, so all these shows were prior to that time

    • @julianciahaconsulting8663
      @julianciahaconsulting8663 2 дня назад

      @@edwardgonczy3170 Was the Van Morrison show you saw was when he was with Them or solo van? Astral Weeks period?

    • @edwardgonczy3170
      @edwardgonczy3170 2 дня назад

      @@julianciahaconsulting8663 Solo. Astral Weeks or more Moondance period. Around April 1970. The bill consisted of Brinsley Swartz, Van Morrison and Quicksilver Messenger Service after Gary Duncan had come back to the fold dragging Dino Valente with him. They were actually quite phenomenal having just returned, I believe, from Hawaii where they had recorded "Just for Love". Gary and John could still take off in guitar tandem and with the addition of Nicky Hopkins, the effect could be quite electrifying. Oh, what a time to be alive.

  • @JohnHancotte
    @JohnHancotte 8 месяцев назад

    Do It Again was a high point for sure! Commenting here before I've watched your entire episode, but I'll finish it. Great as always. Miss seeing a real cold one on your desk!

  • @UsualmikeTelevision
    @UsualmikeTelevision 8 месяцев назад

    Amazing video on The Beach Boys once again! Thank you!

  • @scottiwen4745
    @scottiwen4745 8 месяцев назад

    As always, learned a ton from the video. As a big Doors, Jefferson Airplane, The Who, etc. fan in that era, I never gave the Beach Boys much of a chance - in my mind at least, they were never able to shake their "fun in the sun" image. Really appreciated the Dennis Wilson comments - in a family that took "dysfunction" to a new level, everyone was trying to take care of Brian, but Dennis never got the attention he needed (either for his addictions or just recognizing his musical ability). I'm sure this will be covered in the final video - but Dennis's only solo album, "Pacific Ocean Blue" is an under appreciated gem.

  • @erniericardo8140
    @erniericardo8140 8 месяцев назад

    I dont know if you know this story Matt, but in an interview with Mike Love, He recalls Dennis Wilson telling the other Beach Boys for them to become Manson Family members, Love also recalls an evening in the Summer of 68, He went over to Dennis Wilson's home on the Sunset Strip and met Manson and The Family. Love remembers that everyone at the house was naked and LSD being passed around. Love excused himself from Charlie's Happening and describes being a hot summer day and Love decided to take a shower in Wilson's bathroom, as he finished showering and opened the the shower door He was startled to find Manson standing there staring at him.He confronted Love for leaving the Party, Manson said: "You cant lesve the group"!!! -Love responded bewildered:"Oh, I didnt know, Im sorry Charlie" with Manson and a couple of the Manson girls giving Love an intense look, Love decided at that moment to quickly leave Wilson's house.

  • @daddybog7189
    @daddybog7189 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice overall review, continued success.

  • @minevance9461
    @minevance9461 7 месяцев назад

    Love the British copy of Surfs Up. I love the Stateside label

  • @MonsieurC64
    @MonsieurC64 8 месяцев назад +1

    I love the Friends album cover, way better than the Pet Sounds cover picture. I think it could almost be the cover for a psychedelic rock band, except they look like nice guys, and the title and band name makes it unhip for the average rock fan of 1968 anyway. I think the back photo looks more like a generic picture which could be on an easy listening album.

  • @martinsplichal1581
    @martinsplichal1581 8 месяцев назад

    Good show Matt. The band was at its best when they worked together. Friends, Sunflower and Surfs Up are great records. Cheers

  • @walterevans5658
    @walterevans5658 8 месяцев назад

    Surf's Up is my favorite album of theirs. Excellent series!

  • @dadaveda
    @dadaveda 8 месяцев назад

    Great episode Matt

  • @mwheeler138
    @mwheeler138 8 месяцев назад

    I dont often comment but I just want to thank Matt for such high quality videos that are on a FREE platform. This is where it's at when it comes to 60s content.
    And as a side note, I was never a big Rolling Stones reader, but these videos have consistently put a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to that magazine. I don't care for Jann Wenner in particular.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад

      Hey Wheeler - I appreciate the comment and the support. Plenty more to come!

  • @4-dman464
    @4-dman464 8 месяцев назад +1

    33:02 "So if you think The Beatles had it bad, man, Yoko Ono was nothing compared to this!" Haha.
    And I'd have to admit the Charles Manson-Murray Wilson combination does outgun Yoko in her military cap/leather boots phase.

  • @rejectionisprotection4448
    @rejectionisprotection4448 8 месяцев назад

    I haven't really looked into it, but I get the impression that the Beach Boys have had a series of managers over the years, which has probably been to their disadvantage.

  • @reneaceves8820
    @reneaceves8820 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, but I''m surprised to see no mention of the best song on Sunflower "This Whole World", which manages to be musically very intricate and catchy at the same time. Brian gave the song a prominent place in his band's live set in the late nineties.

    • @DocReasonable
      @DocReasonable 8 месяцев назад

      That was mentioned and a snippet was played.

    • @Fool3SufferingFools
      @Fool3SufferingFools 8 месяцев назад

      I think it was supposed to have been excerpted at 35:50 but due to an editing error “It’s About Time” was used in its place.

  • @Super_Synthesis
    @Super_Synthesis 8 месяцев назад

    Sunflower was such an underrated album for so long. It's one of my favorites and one of their best.

  • @sidneyadnopoz3427
    @sidneyadnopoz3427 7 месяцев назад

    I've been starting to get into this era of the beach boys recently.
    I kinda like how raw and low key "Wild Honey" is.

  • @et2petty
    @et2petty 8 месяцев назад

    Thoroughly enjoyed this chapter of the Beach Boys.

  • @paulsurelynotsmith8179
    @paulsurelynotsmith8179 8 месяцев назад

    Another excellent edition to this great band Matt once again great insight very enjoyable sir .

  • @hummingwires9760
    @hummingwires9760 7 месяцев назад

    This is by far the most interesting period for the group and when it comes to the creativity and quality of their releases, but man are The Beach Boys a chaotic and mismanaged group.

  • @joelgoldenberg1100
    @joelgoldenberg1100 8 месяцев назад

    There's a lot I love about the Wild Honey album (particularly Aren't You Glad and the 2017 stereo mix), but what I really love is Brian's piano sound. Very dramatic. Wish he got that sound on his At My Piano album.

  • @rwalker5133
    @rwalker5133 8 месяцев назад

    This shaping up to be a great and very comprehensive series Matt, congratulations!

  • @jeffthewhiff
    @jeffthewhiff 8 месяцев назад

    Matt, you have put together another very interesting Beach Boys video and I am looking forward to watching the next installment of this great series!👍

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, Jeff. The hard ones are now done, thankfully. 🙂

  • @wyliesmith4244
    @wyliesmith4244 8 месяцев назад

    Matt, Once again you kept me rooted to the screen. First let me thank you for posting your version of "Smile." I bought Brian Wilson's recording of "SMiLE" when it came it out late '04 - and was quite disappointed. So much was written about "Smile" that the expectations created would always overwhelm the actual music. I bought "Smiley Smile" when it came out and my expectations inhibited my ability to enjoy the record. As I remember, the critics came close to hating it, but after listening to the "Smile" bootleg, I bet they would have been disappointed by "Smile" itself. It did not take long to start to fall in love with most of"Smiley Smile" and so I became one f the few to but "Wild Honey" (which showed up in the cutout bins pretty quickly). I enjoyed "Wild Honey" a lot, particularly the piano standing out in the songs and the r & b feel (the Beach Boys r & b ?). "I Was Made to Love Her" may be favorite song on the album (low expectations?), but the Capitol albums were so frigging short, sometimes under 25," and only eleven songs.
    While I am a fan of only a few songs on "Friends," I do like "20/200" despite my friends wondering why I had a stack of albums by that uncool band the Beach Boys. While I think 'Forever' is one of the Beach Boys' best tunes, it was the only song that I liked on "Sunflower." But "Surf's Up" is my favorite Beach Boys record. "'Til I Die" surpasses 'Forever' as my favorite track.
    But you (and Brian) are right on the nose about"image." No Beach Boys record sold well in the store that I worked in - until"Endless Summer." It (and to a lesser extent "Spirit of America") just flew out of the store, restoring the Beach Boys to big sales, and placing them in the uneviable position of being a/THE oldies group. 1975 was a little early for that position.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад

      Thank you, Wylie. It's always great to hear reports of how albums moved from someone who worked in retail!

  • @johnjohnson9093
    @johnjohnson9093 8 месяцев назад

    Excellent job of the history of the beach boys.

  • @stefanjonsson699
    @stefanjonsson699 8 месяцев назад

    Knowing very little about this group I am very happy about this series. Amazing storytelling. The music is not for me but I do regonize the quality of their art. Learning so much! Thanks

  • @zachespinoza1794
    @zachespinoza1794 8 месяцев назад

    Matt, you've managed to out-do yourself!!! Thank you for all that you do!!

  • @ConglomerationCat
    @ConglomerationCat 8 месяцев назад +1

    Another home run Matt... It's obvious that a lot of research has gone into this. Unbelievable ups and downs. I also wanted to point out that on the Brothers Records label, Carl produced a band called The Flames (or some call them The Flame) and in 1970, they released a song called "See The Light" that echoed a Beatles-Rutles flavor that should've gotten more attention than it deserved. Even Ricky Fataar, "Barry Wom" Rutles fame played drums on the song and the album. And Blondie Chaplin, the lead singer of The Flame, joined the Beach Boys for a short stint and sang lead vocals on "Sail On Sailor" which I'm certain you'll cover in the next installment of this series. I hope you and your family have a nice Thanksgiving and take good care.

    • @tammyrichard2142
      @tammyrichard2142 8 месяцев назад +1

      Actually, Ricky's role in The Rutles was Stig O'Hara the guitar player, not Barry Wom on the drums.

    • @ConglomerationCat
      @ConglomerationCat 8 месяцев назад

      @@tammyrichard2142 Oh crap, that's right. Thanks for the correction. Appreciate it. Happy Thanksgiving.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving to you too!

  • @juliatutor8099
    @juliatutor8099 8 месяцев назад

    I have said this before, but I am a huge Brian Wilson fan....You did an incredible job on this... Peace and Love, Terry and Julia Tutor

  • @dhpbear2
    @dhpbear2 8 месяцев назад

    10:23 - I had not heard of the "Wild Honey" album until now. They DO tear up "I was Made to Love her"! IMHO, it sounds better than the original!

  • @nickwebb9290
    @nickwebb9290 8 месяцев назад

    Such a wonderful series Matt, roll on Part VI and thanks for all the work you put into this, making it enjoyable and educational.
    As an aside, I got to work with Jack Rieley on his solo album Western Justice but that’s another story 😉

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 месяцев назад

      Thank you, Nick - I appreciate that. Wow, Jack's solo album! I'm sure that is interesting.

    • @nickwebb9290
      @nickwebb9290 8 месяцев назад

      @@popgoesthe60s52
      I believe it died a death Matt, didn’t get much promotion from what I understand, historically such a common problem

  • @dhpbear2
    @dhpbear2 8 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting that "Cabinessence" does not appear on "Smiley Smile", considering the artwork!