The BEACH BOYS History Part Six |
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Part Six of the Pop Goes the 60s historic overview of the Beach Boys continues with the period starting in 1972 after the relative success of the Surf's Up album. The 1970s show the continued decline of Brian Wilson followed by his redemption.
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I added it up and for 3 hours, 15 minutes and 2 seconds you thoroughly entertained me and left me sorry to see it end and wanting more. Thank you Matt for an amazing piece of work.
Hey Ric, I do have a guest writer scheduled to talk about the Band as kind of a recap and to get another perspective from a bigger Beach Boy fan than I am. Look for that in about 2 weeks. I also plan to review Pet Sounds and Smile in more detail in the future so stay tuned!
Thanks for the heads up, my friend. I'll be looking forward to it.@@popgoesthe60s52
I consider "All This Is That" to be one of the finest Beach Boys songs ever.
That's my favorite Beach Boys song
The vocals are some of the best in their career
There is a fast alternative version of All This is That and it is very good as well.
Matt, I enthusiastically agree with you about the quality of "Sail On, Sailor." Many years ago, I was half-listening to a feed from Pandora and the song came on. I was smitten by it. I thought, "Who the hell is that?" I was stunned to see "Beach Boys" on the display. At first, I thought it might be an error, but as I listened to the backing harmonies, I knew it was them. Thanks for noting the song. It has to be in BB's top 5 as far as I'm concerned.
Thank you for the comment. That song showed a lot of promise but they were incapable of capitalizing on it, unfortunately.
In the end credits of "American Graffitti" movie, we can hear a Beach Boys' song called "All summer long". I always think of it like a special moment in this wonderful George Lucas' work.
This six part series was amazing. If anyone I know wants an in depth look at the Beach Boys I'll send them this way! Congrats and Thank you!!!
I appreciate that, Mike!
Matt, this series was probably the best I've heard on their career. Very well done. Succinct and packed with all the pertinent info, all put together very well considering the complicated subject. Kudo's and thanks.
Thank you, Mr J!
Holy cow! Dennis Wilson's "Only With You" is a sensation ballad on "Holland.'
I only said it was "sappy". 🙂 I appreciate the comment, Gene.
A very cool song
I always loved "Steamboat".
I'm a big defender of 'Sunflower', 'So Tough' & 'Holland'. 'So Tough' is one of my favorite seventies albums ever. The recording technique on these three releases is innovative - a lot of the parts are recorded and mixed binaurally, not mono instruments panned left-or-right, so on a good stereo system the different elements will move forward or backward in 3D space within the whole stereo picture. "Marcella" is terrific on headphones.
Hey Thomas! Thank you for watching. While doing this series, I developed a greater appreciation for So Tough and Holland.
@@popgoesthe60s52 I am a regular watcher of the show - we seem to disagree about 25% of the time, but what fun is there in always agreeing?
@@thomosburn8740 That means we agree about 75% of the time - a passing grade!
I'm with you regarding the three LPs you list, although Holland is my favorite of the bunch. I didn't notice if Matt ever mentions it, he seems more focused on chart-positions this time around, but "The Trader" is my favorite song by Carl, it fits with the California central coast theme that peppers the album. And even though it interferes with the album flow, even the recitation of Robinson Jeffers' 'Beaks of Eagles' works for me sometimes.
When I was in 8th Grade I raced home from school every day to put on 'I Get Around.' I was always into them. Then in the 70s I lived in Hawthorne, on 120th St for a while, and etched in the sidewalk was "Rhonda."
Thanks a lot for this series, man, you did a ripping good job here.
Thank you, Dr.
Wow of all people to claim that “We Got Love” is a good song I didn’t think it’d be you. Everyone that talks about it slags it so I’m glad you highlighted it ❤
I like the live version on the concert album. It took forever to hear the for years unreleased studio version.
340 pound, plus all drugs and cigarettes, and a general suicidal lifestyle. I am surprised that he is still alive.
I think he is 81 years of age now too.
Thanks for the series, Matt. Great job and detail on the music. Having grown up in the era, The Beach Boys just sort of became increasingly uncool. The pop culture kept chasing that next new shiny act. By 1974 I was playing Endless Summer endlessly in my bedroom but telling nobody at HS that I was a fan. Their band name worked against them, too, almost as bad as calling themselves the Smiling Clowns. Inevitably, they went commercial with it all. The bummer about their legacy is that they made a lot of great songs that were overlooked in the latter stage of their recording heyday.
The Beach Boys' cover of "Rock and Roll Music" that appeared on _15 Big Ones_ was excellent; no apologies needed.
I've spent most of this July 4th watching every episode of The Beach Boys. Well done Matt! And thank you! Enjoyable and informative. Bravo, Mr. Williamson! 😎👍🏾
Thank you. That was a very satisfying series to do.
Ricky Fataar a.k.a. “Stig O’Hara of the Rutles.
And also John Halsey aka Barry Wom plays drums on a few tracks on Lou Reeds “Transformer” album , albeit his surname is spelt slightly wrong in the credits.
John was always pleasantly surprised and happy to sign any copies of Transformer at a Rutles show getting recognition in his own right rather than just as Neil’s sidekick …..
I just watched the recent Disney documentary and it was lacking in so much. Thanks for doing this series. It was so informative
Thank you for watching it. I have sympathy for anyone trying to fit their history into 2 hours!
Excellent series. Many things I suspected now verified.
One summer evening in the summer of 76 I was driving around a rural area I was living in at the time in my 68 Camaro convertible. I stopped into a general store and found this 8 track double album of Carl and the Passions and Pet Sounds. I played that 8 track over and over as I had broken up with my girlfriend of 2 years, l love these albums and Surfs up and Holland .These are pretty much my favourite albums by the Beach Boys.
Nicely put together ,,,, continued success.
Enjoyed the series very much. Only one true disagreement, The Beach Boys Love You is a terrific LP. A miracle from the wreckage. Thanks as always for your hard work.
Excellent as ever, Matt. The Beach Boys' story easily deserves 6 episodes, maybe more! One thing to add is that finally we did get to hear 'Smile', first of all Brian's solo version in 2004 and then in 2011 an album compiled from the Beach Boys' original music. Of course we'll never know for sure what form the album would have taken if completed in '67, but given the high quality of these recordings it's perhaps surprising that Brian and the boys couldn't finish it back then. On the other hand, given the shambolic lifestyles that you describe so well, maybe it's not surprising after all!
Hi Tim! Thank you for commenting and for the support. I will have a guest on to basically recap the 6-part series. This will be Beach Boy affectionado and writer Glenn Greenberg who will tie up some loose ends with me. I do plan on a couple more Beach Boys videos pertaining to Pet Sounds and Smile so stay tuned!
I've really enjoyed this fabulous series on the Beach Boys, Matt! It is evident through these six videos that you have devoted a lot of time to this project since your meticulous research, attention to detail and great presentation skills shine through, accompanied by some great images. It is also evident that you are a great fan of the band as I am! Thank you once again.
Hey Nick, yes, this series was a learning experience for me and made me even a bigger fan. I appreciate the feedback and support!
An insight into how dark "Sail On, Sailor" was as originally envisioned can be heard on KGB's version of the song (a mid 70's supergroup featuring Carmine Appice, Mike Bloomfield, Ric Grech and others). Ray Kennedy was lead vocalist--and (presumably) it's his version of the lyrics he sings
Also--kinda surprised you skipped the 1985 album, as it was their last gasp at relevance, and the 2013's That's Why God Made The Radio, which was a nice return to form for Brian and the band
Great stuff as always, Matt!
Thank you! I really didn't want to get into the music post 1980 for the sake of time and relevance but I am having a follow up discussion with a writer on this whole series which will give me the opportunity to go over some things I glossed over.
Thanks so much for completing this series, I've enjoyed every segment. This one had me laughing a few times. They made some real boneheaded decisions. I first heard of Ricky Fataar when he played Stig O'Hara in The Rutles, the Beatles parody band.
I really liked Brian's self-titled first solo album. Still a highlight for me.
Thanks for sticking with me, Frugal!
Just imagining future youth discovering the great music from the 1960's and referencing your well presented videos from today. I was 6 when 'Good Vibrations' played on my pocket transistor radio... it's truly a gift to have a boatload of memories after so many years of awesome music... songs we've heard a million times yet we still love them. Two years? Thanks for a great look back at The Beach Boys, Matt!
I appreciate the kind words. Thank you.
I also saw the 50th Anniversary show, in Montreal on Brian's 70th birthday. The show was indeed great, with a mix of Mike and Bruce's Beach Boys, and Brian's touring musicians. What I really liked was the lengthy set list, David Marks's very cool surf guitar, his vocal on Getcha Back and the quality of Al Jardine's vocals.
I was very fortunate to see that show and I was with my buddy Paul and my parents. Great time!
Amazing stuff- I’ve looked forward to each part and learned new things every time 👍🏻
Thank you for watching, Chad!
Underrated American Icons. They are the 60's. Thanks for an awesome 6 part series Matt. Enjoyed learning more about the Beach Boys. My favorite song by them is "Do You Wanna Dance", sung by my least favorite Beach Boy, Dennis Wilson. It was a cover. Many more great songs though. #1 channel Matt!
Thank you for the continued support St. Rose!
Matt, as with all your overview histories of the great 60s bands, I thoroughly enjoyed your Beach Boys series. Because they were the start of my Beach Boys collection I would like to hear your take on Capitol's Beach Boys Best of albums, what was included, dubious choices like Louie Louie and Long Tall Texan, and what was missed, and what are the best compilations today.
Beach Boys band history was fascinating and well researched. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! Will do!
The 1993 Beach Boys box set Thirty Years of Good Vibrations has Fairy Tale Music which is a medley of the backing tracks for the Mount Vernon story EP without the narration.
Ooo, thank you for that. I will search those tracks out.
This was an amazing video about an amazing band thank you for this great series I will definitely be watching more of your videos
Thank you, plenty more to come!
@@popgoesthe60s52 that's good to hear I'm keen to see what other great videos you release in the future
@@listerineclean9258 I've done about 30 band so far and there are many on my very long list!
@@popgoesthe60s52 awesome I'm slowly making my way through them at the moment
@@popgoesthe60s52 awesome I'm slowly making my way through them at the moment
I recall from Brian Wilson's book "Wouldn't It Be Nice" that he had nothing to do with "Kokomo." He was in Los Angeles working on a solo album while the band recorded the song in Atlanta; he was given a cursory 24-hour notice of the session as required in their agreements. Just another example of how dysfunctional and immature these guys continued to be. It truly is amazing that they've created such memorable music over the years. Elsewhere on RUclips, you can watch their 1980s cover of "California Dreaming" with the often overlooked Al Jardine singing lead. I think it holds up as well as the Mamas & Papas original.
Actually, the real story regarding Kokomo is that Landy didn't forward calls from the band to Wilson. The band wanted Brian's participation but Landy handled all of Wilson's calls (calls from his mother were also not put through). Landy instead responded to the band the Landy get and Executive Producer credit on the record and some publishing with the band refused. Producer of record, Terry Melcher, wanted no part of Landy in the studio. The book you cite, Brian has disavowed as much is untrue and Landy was heavily involved in its writing. So this is not an issue of immaturity or dysfunction on the bands part. Only Landy's.
@@popgoesthe60s52 Thanks for the clarification.
The Beach Boys inner story is so sprawling and exraordinary. Im a big Holland fan. It was the record that made me reconsider their music. Also, Fataar and Chapman were good for switching things up. Fataar was also great in the Rutles… ersatz George.
Great episode Matt, been looking fwd to the final of this series. The BB have a bizarre and tragic history. So many "coulda beens" with this band. Given the clash of personalities, Brian's mental and drug abuse issues, and generally poor decision making, it's inarguable that this band failed to live up to their potential. After 1967 they lost relevance and ended up among the first nostalgia acts.
Thanks Scott!
Matt- excellent work as always! Your band histories are my favorite part of your channel. I have never had the desire to see the Mike Love led Beach Boys, but did see Brian Wilson & Co during the Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary tour. Al had apparently jumped the Mike Love ship and was touring with Brian. Along with the excellent band and the chance to see Brian in a half-decent place, one of the highlights was hearing Blonde Chaplin sing Sail On Sailor. I concur - that is one of the better (and overlooked) songs in the catalog. Thanks again for all your work!!
Hey Greg, thank you for supporting the Band Histories. I am working on some others right now. I wishi they didn't take so long to create! Stay tuned.
This was a very sad period for The Beach Boys but thanks for doing the review.
Probably the best doc on the beach boys
That is very kind of you to say.
Matt. You just did a phenomenal cover of the Beach Boys! You deserve a break....for a little while. LOL! I have always been a fan up to 1967 after that their music is very spotty. The production always sounded cheap. Like comparing their late 70's albums to Boston first album production which was great. I digress. Thank you for a excellent series!
Very much agree with that sentiment.
I appreciate the feedback, Thomas! I would like a break but I have some other things in the cue already so stay tuned!
Long live the memories of Dennis & Carl Wilson. xoxo The Clarences
Well done! Enlightening!
Leave it To Beaver LOL!!! 😂😅😅 I Love it Matt 👍 -What a fenomenal series of The Beach Boys, I really want to commend you for creating this Epic documentary,-if RUclips had an Award show Matt you would be sweeping many categories, This is one best videos Ive ever seen on the Beach Boys 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you, Ernie! I appreciate your long term support.
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I saw the Beach Boys in the late 70s. The seats I had were terrible (off to the side of the stage), however this gave me a great view of a very overweight Brian sitting behind the stage smoking cigarettes the entire show. He came out a couple times to sing a song and then would go backstage and smoke some more.
It was a very sad thing to see - Brian disintegrating for all to see.
Yeah, I actually thought he was a roadie until he went out on stage to sing.@@popgoesthe60s52
Stan Love & his crony also gave Dennis a brutal beating at one point, really hurt him bad.
Yes, a very troubled band dynamic indeed!
'The Trader' is awesome, too.
Matt..."Runaway" by Del Shannon is on the "American Graffiti" soundtrack and it was 60's as well ( I had the soundtrack when I was 10)...Peace and Love, Terry Tutor
Ah, you got me on that one Terry!
Whoa.....Another great episode....believe you how long it's taken you get through so much history. Congratulations on an Epic Story told in a Easy To Follow. Through watching this story, made me purchase a few of their albums. Be hanging on for your next Edition of Pop Goes The 60s. I know it's the 17th of January . Happy New Year to you & Family
Thank you, Graham! More to come.
Great series! I had ignored their work after Smiley Smile, but there are a lot of gems there. Hope you do a band overview on Love soon.
I will most likely be doing Love this year so stay tuned!
Been anxiously waiting for this one!! Thanks Matt!! Absolutely love these!
You are welcome! I'm glad to have completed it. I do have a wrap up discussion coming soon with writer Glenn Greenberg, so stay tuned!
You did a wonderful job.
You should do Grateful Dead next! So much history involved in that organization I believe you could easily make a 10 part series
Well, I do have the Dead on my long list but I will probably keep that one to under 6 episodes!
@@popgoesthe60s52 that’s awesome to hear! Really looking forward to seeing it! I really enjoy the attention to detail you put into your research on these videos.
Well, it was worth the wait. Was never a huge Beach Boys fan at their height, so this was very informative. I did like Marcella, and Sail on Sailor. I saw them on the Mall on July 4 in 1980? '81? It was the one that President Reagan overrode Interior Secretary James Watt, who had forbidden their performance, as according to Watt, they did not represent American values.
No, that was the very last one before James Watt put his foot down. The James Watt one was actually starring Wayne Newton and The Beach Boys ended up playing in Atlantic City for Fourth of July.
That's funny that they were viewed by some as "very counter culture!' Thank you for watching the series, Thomas!
Excellent series, Thank You. The Beach Boys weren't a top group for my generation in HS in the early to mid 70's other than Endless Summer. Even after that, they didn't do much. Rock & Roll Music is the only top 40 song I can think of. I don't remember many of the album covers you showed from the late 70's to early 80's.
Endless Summer was big at parties. I felt Spirit of America was a relative unknown, maybe it was more for the generation that grew up with the surf songs. Your series showed me what they were putting out in my HS years and beyond. Not the stuff we listened to, Wings, Eagles, Skynyrd, Led Zep, etc.
I knew Dennis had a drug problem, he died after I saw them in the early 80's. Shocking how bad Brian was. Overall, a very sad R & R story. Thanks Again
Thanks for watching Joe!
Great video finale and video as always. I'd love an episode on Harry Nilsson.
I really like your content alot. You are very scholary Keep up the good work!
Thank Douse - more to come!
The Beach Boys also appeared in the late '80s as themselves on an episode of "Full House." I think Mike Love appeared in another episode or two. They also were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 1988 in the same ceremony as the Beatles and the Rolling Stones and Mike Love attacked Paul (who didn't show up), albeit, it was probably meant probably playfully.
Thanks for that. The last part was hard to watch, but very rewarding. You played some snippets of their late 70s material, which I found quite interesting. I always liked the track Lady Lynda, and felt they could have moved into a strong commercial phase in those years, but your videos explain how their personal problems made that impossible.
Thank you for watching, Paul!
I don't blame Mike Love for Brian's drug addiction I blame him for resisting every attempt to get the Beach Boys to do anything else but surfing chicks and hot rods Frankly I'm surprised you didn't mention "Summer in Paradise" Then again its probably for the best
You've made a very interesting series about a band whose music I have never found compelling. Well done, sir.
Thank you, Russell! It's a compliment that the story held your interest even though the music may not. 🙂
I love Carl and the Passions. AOR. And the bonus record was my first exposure to Pet Sounds, and is what got me hooked. Sunflower was my next purchase. So it worked having it as a bonus LP. And my brother and I really like the addition of the newcomers when we saw them live for the first time.
What a wonderful video have a wonderful day ❤😊
I haven't heard Sail on in decades!!!! So great, I'm going to get it on iTunes. Thanks for all your homework to make great vids.
My pleasure Andrew.
The band was basically on life support after ~1970 with no real direction. What a mess. It's a miracle that Brian is still alive.
I dispute that summary. "Life support" if you judge strictly by record sales, maybe. The final Capitol LPs were not big sellers, and neither was Sunflower. But all of them were artistic successes, especially Sunflower -- maybe their best LP overall, EVER. Surf's Up and Holland were both artistic and commercial successes. After that, they became an oldies band, essentially.
Brilliant, Matt. Cheers!
Superb climax to what has undoubtedly been your finest band history to date, Matt. The 'Light Album' did produce the wondrous 'Lady Lynda', which was the band's first top 10 hit in the UK since 1970, but overall you left no stone unturned in the turbulent soap opera that is The Beach Boys. I reckon the story of The Kinks could provide you with some similar sibling rivalry if you fancy tackling it.
Thank you, Johnny. I plan to tackle the Kinks in the future so stay tuned.
'Love You' has 'Ding Dang' which Roger McGuinn and he started writing it at Roger's house, Roger went to bed and Brian was still playing it on Roger's piano when he woke up.
Thank you Matt, for doing this series on the Beach Boys! That being said, sort of feel you rushed through the group's past 50 years, especially their past 40, which you summarized with just a few sentences at the end. Agree that the So Tough album sounds disjointed, not running well together. For many years, thought it was their worst album (But no longer think this). Have always enjoyed the quirkiness of the Love You album. In a way, with the heavy use of synthesizers on the tracks, Brian was ahead of the sounds popular in 1977. Thinking of Gary Numan's hit song "Cars" from 1979 (which was almost all synthesizers). It's easy to say this with hindsight, but overall, the band always relied too much on Brian (in terms of songwriting and producing). He should have gotten help much earlier (in the late'60s). The group (Think also a major mistake on their part) always put family above everything else. There were others (People such as Lou Adler, "Bones" Howe, or Terry Melcher) who they could have approached about producing them, taking that weight off Brian's shoulders. The others also became good songwriters, so the burden of writing hit songs shouldn't have been solely on Brian. They could have also approached professional songwriters (But that would have been a big hit to their collective egos). Over the years, think their management/who was managing them, as well as their record labels, share the blame in how the group's career went. But the biggest fault lies with themselves. Technically, the group is still going, with Mike and Bruce and a bunch of younger back up musicians, calling themselves the Beach Boys. Agree with you that many times the group acted like children. To their credit, think they were the only Surf group from the early '60s to have a career past the mid to late '60s. But how successful they were has been and is debatable.
Hey Robert, thanks for watching the series. It is really amazing this group lasted past 1972. I attribute that to being "family". Just about every other 60s band was done by then with the exception of a few, who kept up with times and their music was relevant to a wider audiences (Stones, Who, Dead, Kinks). I think they left quite a legacy of music but is only appreciated by niche audiences today. I plan on a couple more videos that will go into this idea further so stay tuned!
@@popgoesthe60s52 Another person I forgot to mention, as a possible Producer for the Beach Boys records, is Curt Boetcher. Boetcher (Who I always thought was from Los Angeles) formed a folk music group in Minneapolis called the Goldebriars. Have you ever heard of them? They had nice harmony singing. I like their song "He Was A Friend Of Mine", which has been posted on RUclips. Boetcher also lived in Eau Claire, Wisconsin for a little bit, graduating from high school in Eau Claire in 1962.
@@robertzastrow4648 Boettcher would have been a fascinating choice of producer. Too bad that wasn't tried. I do know the Goldebriars but didn't know he spent time in Eau Claire! Thanks for that.
Thanks Matt.. you see what fame and fortune can bring. never knew of this, hilarious circus show.. i'm surprised Bryan is still suckin air after riding the same train Elvis didn't make it through.
Great video series on The Beach Boys! Definitely hard work.
Is that an Old Fashioned by chance?
No that was just straight bourbon. But I do like an Old Fashioned!
Excellent report
Did you mention Rocky Pamplin, who was ALSO working to keep Brian out of trouble, but then slept with his wife during his (brief) time in American Spring? He recorded an album on Mike Love's label.
I did leave out a great deal of drama, including the three-way between Marilyn, Brian, and Tandyn. I just couldn't weave that in with any grace.
Awesome overview of the Beach Boys. I enjoyed every video. Please cover the Pentangle soon.
Great suggestion. I have a few other bands slated for early 2024 but I am undecided how to integrate the solo 60s work of Bert Jansch and John Renborn into the Pentangle story. Working on it!
Probably important to note that Brian actually has schizoaffective disorder and not paranoid schizophrenia. Landy's diagnosis was deemed incorrect later on.
Dept. of Why Can't Any RUclipsrs Ever Proofread Their On-Screen Text: "Old Promised Road".
I couldn't help but notice the Free Design album in the background... man, would I love to see a Pop Goes The 60's history of them!
Hey Steve. I must confess - I am a poor proof reader! I often rush to get videos done which is never good. I appreciate the constructive criticism.
@@popgoesthe60s52 Hi Matt! As I tried to imply, it's not just you, it's a problem that's endemic to RUclips. I've seen worse from channels with much larger budgets and staffs. I love your channel, and I certainly appreciate all the work that goes into it!
@@stevefolta Thank you, Steve.
Fantastic set on The Beach Boys Matt. I have shown numerous people, including my daughter who is using some information for her college rock history class. 😅😅😅
That is very flattering. Best of luck to your daughter!
Fantastic series. I've read a few Beach Boys bios, but still picked up a few new footnotes from this series. They're a bit like a rock group version of Johnny Cash, a walking contradiction. On one hand, individually they're all amicable good dudes capable of being generous and warm hearted. On the other hand, they each have a bit of asshole to them. It's a popular debate, but imo the Beach Boys are Brian Wilson. The other four capable songwriters, especially Dennis, but their output doesn't have that addictive stick to your brain attraction that Brian's writing and production has. Glad they got a final curtain bow with That's Why God Made the Radio and the 50th tour. True to form, even that was embroiled in controversy and problems.
Great series on the Beach Boys! The biggest takeaway I get form this is that if an artist/band doesn't have the mundane nuts-and-bolts of touring all worked out (accommodations, housing, the bullshit paperwork) then it's fucked. By the way, the Leave It To Beaver comparison is spot-on hilarious!
Thanks for watching! I appreciate the comment.
I was going through your videos and was wondering if you did videos on Steppenwolf. If you didn't, I would love to see one. I bought their box set on Christmas '22. What an underrated group.
I like your take on these artists, even though I am not a fan of some of them, I still watch.
That is high praise, James. I have not done Steppenwolf yet but they are definitely on my list. Thank you for the request.
Ricky Fataar? FROM THE RUTLES??? No way!!!!!!!!
The one and only!
Great research Matt. Those guys were very hither and yon. I remember when they dragged him outta bed on SNL. What can you do about these very broken people? I think it's good that Brian has persevered after so many ups and downs tho. Congratulations on a great series.
Thank you, Silas! Brian needed to be 'handled', which finally saved his life, I guess.
1970s beach boys very interesting albums. jim guercio good producer & manager.
This reminds me of The Association. And by that I mean they continued making music way past their prime. They should've ended the band on a high note.
At the the Association stopped making albums in 1972. Not a bad time for the Beach Boys to end as well.
A friend of mine, who was a teenager in the 1970s, thought at that time that Endless Summer was the debut album from a new band. That would be one heck of a debut!
This was a great series. The Beach Boys have a long and complicated history and you did a nice job with it.
Thank you, DW. This was a difficult story to weave, with all the drama and musical turns Thank you for watching!
I think Ricky Fatar was later in the Beatles parady The Rutles with Eric Idle of Monty Python. Rikki played the George Harrison guy( with the real George appearing as well) Is that him?
Instead of shipping the equipment for $250,000; consider flying Dutch fans to the West Coast instead; to watch them record where they were comfortable. You could invite almost 1000 fans and the economy in California would have been boosted by their expenditures for accommodation and food/tourism.
Great job! Your 2 years were well worth it! I've been a lifelong fan (since 1964) and I think the reason Mikey gets so much fan dislike is -- his ATTITUDE. All you have to do is go back and watch his "comment" at the 1988 RnR HOF induction. He is a JERK. He relentlessly hassled Brian over creative directions their whole career, even before Pet Sounds. It seemed at one point, Brian was simultaneously contending against Murry, Capitol AND Mikey for creative direction.
ML was undeniably insanely jealous of Tony Asher and Van Dyke Parks. Plus, he is great at constantly "re-writing" history. (Yes, I bought and read his book.) It's true Brian was weak-willed with drugs, and didn't want to battle Mikey and others over their differences. A huge improvement in his life came when he met Melinda Ledbetter.
You might be tired of delving into the "Beach Boy world," but maybe should think about doing a Part 7: "Brian Wilson's Solo Career." Maybe also a personal review of the movie "Love and Mercy." Maybe a look at the "Smile" album (either version).Thanks for your series!
Hey Bill! I have a couple more reviews I would like to do on the Pet Sounds-Smile era. As for Mike, regardless of what you think of him personally, his contributions are routinely undermined by fans (and some senior writers) who insist on blaming Love for Brian's downfall. That is giving Love way too much credit.
I always challenge fans to rethink their use ad hominems to describe Love like "jerk", "relentlessly hassled", "insanely jealous", "re-writing history" or even referring to him as "Mikey." Having done so much research on the band, I was very surprised and disappointed to see the level of bias that gets in the way of the actual history. I may take some of the writers in question to task, which would demonstrate my points more clearly. I do have a writer (and Beach Boy fan) scheduled as a guest just to talk in general about the band so we may broach that subject.
Mike Love does have a bad reputation and a great deal of that reputation lies with Mike Love. As always, I appreciate the dialog, Bill!
@@popgoesthe60s52 My rhetoric may have gotten a little heated, but seriously, ML's meltdown on one of the biggest stages in his life (1988) was troubling, deeply revealing, and makes a joke of all his "TM" preaching, at least to me.
FACT: Because of ML, Brother Records lost out on a big pile of cash when he forced BW to part ways with producing "Redwood," which shifted gears & became Three Dog Night.
I won't deny that I enjoy hearing ML's voice on many, many classic BB records, but I think his role in the BBs, at least pre-"BBs, Inc.", is HUGELY overrated. Touring band director? OK. But song composition, contributions to the albums post-"Love You" ? Nothing much. You might dig a little deeper into Mike's "bad reputation" -- where did it come from? And why does he have that rep in the first place? And why BW stays away from him.
We Got Love wasn't on the album in most markets, especially not in the USA.
Karen Lamm, ex-wife of Robert Lamm of Chicago. She certainly had a "type".
It's fitting that this final part covers what is now close to 52 years of activity, and yet has such a small musical footprint representing their legacy. It shows that drugs don't exactly promote creativity and growth. Never knew how poor of a decision it was to record in Amsterdam for the Holland album. I always figured they were making a smart move with the strong Sail On Sailor giving them credibility. What a fiasco! I remember reading about Keeping The Summer Alive (I think it was that one) being an all digital recording utilizing the new-at-the-time techniques of sequencing and early Pro Tools. I thought to myself this is not how it should be done when thinking of their classic hits. I would have liked you to have wrapped it up with more attention to their 50th Anniversary and the recording of That's Why God Made The Radio, or even a bit more background on how Kokomo came together. Those were shining moments after so many years of losses, suffering and poor business decisions. I saw them once in D.C. at the Washington Monument in 1980 - I was 17 and had grown up with my older brother's Capitol albums. They were magical for many years. Thank you Matt for your hard work and warm delivery - cheers!
Hey John, thank you for weighing in! I do have a wrap up video of the series planned; a discussion with writer and Beach Boys affectionado Glenn Greenberg, which will cover some of the parts I glossed over. I could have done a 7th installment, but I don't think the music is worthy of a 7th episode and I intended for the omissions to underscore that sentiment.
I do plan more discussion on Pet Sounds and Smile in the future so this topic is far from over. Thanks for hanging in there and watching them all. Much appreciated.
Interesting that you and the channel Elliot Roberts have two different takes, both historical as well as personal opinions about the "love you" album.
I don't rate the Beach Boys music post Endless Summer high at all. I notice that the 'Brian Wilson is a genius' crowd tend to rate Loves You high, which follows similar patterns to rating McCartney's solo work as well. Roberts unfortunately fell into the familiar bias of anti-Mike Love sentiment, which I find sophomoric and pandering to the 'Wilsonittes', of which I am not one.
@@popgoesthe60s52 I see. Well, I'm happily living my life without a horse in that race. Going through the Kinks discography, hoping you might touch on them soon.
@@johnwallace2319 I do have some irons in the fire for the Kinks but that will take some prep. They are certainly on the list!
Surf's up and holland are in the beach boys top 10 albims
L.A. album and you name "Here Comes the Night " and" Baby Blue". What about "Good Timin" one of their best vocal harmonies. Cut one on the album. Also "Lady Lynda" a hit in U.K. I hardly ever played Here Comes the Night or Baby Blue. You also did not mention :Still Cruisin" LP which had two great tracks "Still Cruisin' and In My Car along with "Kokomo", The 1985 self titled album which had "Getcha Back" which was Number 26 on Billboard's top 40 songs. I also really like "Summer in Paradise" a Terry Melcher produced album, "Stars and Stripes" with country stars singing with The Beach Boys". And their final album "That's Why God Made the Radio" from their 50th anniversary album which you saw them perform the title track live in 2012.
Stan Love by the way is the father of Kevin Love the current NBA superstar
17:42 There's no actual evidence that Dennis had anything to do with the writing of "You Are So Beautiful" other than his word.
And the word of Billy Hinsche who witnessed it. You can find his account in print and in interviews on youtube. Whatever his contribution, it probably didn't merit a writing credit or he would have got one.
Great series, Matt. My brother was a big BB fan, although the only albums I remember him owning was the live one and Endless Summer. But based on this excellent video it doesn't sound like there was much else worth having anyways!
Rock & Roll Music needed some reverb.
Loved the series, but That's Why God Made the Radio is certainly good enough for a mention as a coda to their career. And does The Smile Sessions count as Smile finally getting released?
Yes, I had originally planned to end the series in about 1975 but I lengthened it to tie up some loose ends. I do plan to further discuss Smile (the Sessions, plus Brian Presents) and I have a writer to do a recap on the entire series coming soon.
Be sure to mention Summer In Paradise. Todd In The Shadows has a trainwreckords episode on that one. One of the agreements between Brian and Mike is that Brian can be the touring Beach Boys but cannot record under the name (after that fiasco). @@popgoesthe60s52
Another great series
Thank you, Dick! I appreciate you watching them all!
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Excellent series.
Your comments regarding Mike Love always being portrayed as the villain by Beach Boys fans were
spot on.
The unsung hero of the Beach boys from 1982 onward was the late Jeffrey Foskett,
who added much to their live performances and to their "That's Why God Made The Radio" album.
He deserves acknowledgement in any Beach Boys retrospective.
Thank you for mentioning Foskett. I do have a wrap up video planned with writer Glenn Greenberg to touch on some the many things I couldn't cover in the series.
Thanks,
Matt,for your hard work and thorough research.@@popgoesthe60s52
Well . . . . mike Love IS the villain of the Beach Boys. One of the biggest D-bags in the history of rock.
Yes, I get Mike is tough to get along with (and the hats don't fool anyone). But he had to put up with Murray, too. And Murray sold the song rights without any discussion or payment to Mike so he kind of had to watch out for himself and for the BB brand.