You're right. New lever guns are well over $1k and some ARs can be had for $500. My point, which maybe didn't come through well, was that a lever gun you already have could be upgraded for a modest price to give excellent service. Thanks for the review and comment. Dick Fairburn
Yeah or an AR-15!!!! Bear creek arsenal guarantees 1.5 MOA for a $500 gun!!! I don’t know of lever guns anywhere near this price point for the quality??? I don’t think there’s any way to make a lever gun cheap relative to modular designs like the AR?
I like very much, how you put your opinion in survival topics. You don't have to pay a lot of money to survive, you just need a very reliable and durable gun with good sights and reliable ammo. So simple and minimal. I congrats that
Leaver actions are awesome utility tools, .....I purchased a Rossi r92 tripple black in 38/357, ..it is smooth and slick out of the box. This model has an all weather finish.....I have used it for the past two seasons in adverse conditions, rain and snow. It's very manuverable in thick brush, ..... Canadian price was $1299 shelf price. I also added a red dot. .....thanks for the video
Where I live AR rifles are prohibited. I have a few lever guns for ranch home defence including a 1873 ( modern 357 Mag), 1886 in 45/70 and a Marlin 336 in 30-30 Win. Feel pretty well equipped for predators of all types. Lover the lever guns! Thanks for the video.
Many of the more common lever guns available today are a side eject rather than the top eject so setting up different sighting options is made somewhat easier as they can be mounted on the top of the receiver. I have always been a fan of pistol caliber lever actions for self defense/prepper types of use as then you can share a common cartridge between your long gun and side arm. Makes stocking and carrying ammo a lot simpler.
Yes, both Marlins and Henrys allow top mounting. I prefer the 92 action because it has a shorter lever throw and I can work it easily from the shoulder with my short arms.
You can do that with 9mm, too. Most carbines today take Glock mags. Don't get me wrong, 44 magnum is one hell of a cartridge. But the 9mm much more available today.
@@sasquatchycowboy5585 Do not forget the .357 mag which also is capable of firing .38 specials. That is my preferred choice over the .44 although I do have both a .44 and .357 handgun and could have gone either direction.
@billwiley7216 Mine, too, actually. I mentioned 44 because its ballistics are superior. But the .357 has, in my opinion, a better balance of recoil and power. I hope to pick up a set of Rugers in .357 in the next year or two. Maybe and 1894, GP 100, and SP 101. But I've also got Glocks and carbines that take Glock mags.
In Illinois Law enforcement circles, in earlier years where the sight of an AR in the front rack of the squad car sent shivers through politicians concerned that the police were looking too militarized the Police Training Institute had a suggestion. Use a lever action. They reasoned that the lever action was innocuous, hey, western heroes, the good guys like The Rifleman, John Wayne, and other heroes used the Winchester. Since many believe the city father's only firearms knowledge came from TV and western movies, they would somehow believe a 30-30 was an ok rifle and not dangerous like that black rifle. It worked. Many agencies were able to deploy rifles for the first time.
In Jeff Cooper's book "The Art of the Rifle," he discussed and showed images of the .30-30 lever action for general purpose use. I have long recommended a lever gun for patrol and home defense use.
I had that same sight as your 47-70, on my 94 searschester in 30-30. I bought in Alaska at the gun show, I replaced the stocks with black plastic (I think ramline). When I returned to the Seattle area after leaving active duty, winchester just came out with the shadow. All the kids thought I was cool for about five minutes. Now I like my r92 in 357, I have a light mount I fabbed out of a couple chinese mounts, to slip between the tube and barrel, the a tlr1. Light 38 hollow points and the racoons die where I find 'em. And the zombies always come out at night, no matter what shape they take.
I thoroughly enjoyed your video. All the comments about the cost of leverguns to AR are valid. However I have a Marlin m1894 357mag that I got at local pawnshop for $430 5 yrs ago. I have owned & shot levers since i was a kid. Only shot an AR a handful of times. Familiarity of your firearm goes a long way brother. Besides I'm not currently at war with anyone, so a lever & S&W m13 suit me just fine. Great content you have my freind.
I installed a Marble's bullseye sight, and a partridge front sight filed to a point, on my Rossi R92 in .357. I call the combination a "ring and spike" setup. Works well, and is lightning fast.
Thanks for another great video, Dick. Your experience and vast knowledge of firearms is greatly welcomed. Love my Rossi R92 in 357, one of my favorite firearms and my go to for PA Whitetail. P.S. your intro rocks!
@@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb the past three seasons I've been using the same load I carry in my 686 plus, 158gr JHP's. I've been kicking around the idea of using 180gr JHP for the thicker brush areas. What's your favorite load?
I have a Chiappa 1892 short rifle in 357, a Chiappa 1886 rifle in 45/70 and a Uberti 1873 rifle in .44 Magnum. All came with buckhorn sights which persevered with until my eyesight weakened, then fitted Lyman No2 tang sights on each. These bring the front sight into sharp focus and extend the sight radius by about 12 inches for more precision. My pet hates are they're expensive, fragile, in the way and spoil the lines of the rifle. I recently tried a Marbles 'Bullseye' sight and was so impressed with that I bought 3 of them. They fit in the original barrel dovetail (slight filing may be required), give an excellent sight picture, fast target acquisition through the ghost ring, easy to adjust, cheap to buy, very robust an don't spoil the lines of the rifle. I wish I'd known about them before wasting $300 + on Tang sights.
We have a lot in common Dick. I currently have three Rossi R92's - .357 Mag (24" rifle), 44 Mag (16" carbine) and 45 Colt (20" carbine). I use the 45, carbine for CAS - which I've started shooting again. I agree that a lever action is a very viable and formidable combat carbine.
I’m still under 40, but I remember when the AR was $1000 and the AK could be bought for $400. Now a decent AR can be bought for $400 and a good AK is $1000 minimum!
I appreciate your videos. They have a lot of value to me. Many years of experience and knowledge given away for free. So far I have agreed with everything you have said except for the love of .45 auto… LOL I’m just teasing. Thank you and God bless you and your family.
Just ran across your channel. Love your approach and style. With the way things are going in our country now, old school is proving that it still works! And for me, wood is so much nicer looking than the tacticool.
I have a Sears model 54 in 30-30 it's my deer rifle and my defensive rifle. Had to get it out last winter when an armed and dangerous criminal running from the sheriff crashed out behind my house in the middle of the night and they couldn't find him. I was prepared, had all the outside lights on and deputies all around the property. They finally caught him about 30 minutes later bedded down in the snow and sagebrush about to freeze to death. Had a pistol on him too.
I've been using a lever rifle for outdoors and home defense since the TV series the Rifleman starring Chuck Connors was first aired on TV in 1958.I also have several colt AR and M4 to choose from.
My Henry .44 mag agrees with your logic. Pistol caliber cartridges also allow for more compacity..... 10 in the tube. I feel pretty safe at home and mountains.
Canada doesn't have minimum barrel length restrictions on manually operated long guns. I've got a Chiappa 1892 44 Magnum carbine with a 12 inch barrel. Not a Mare's Leg, full length stock, measuring 30 inches overall, and it's rigged with a tang peep. Launches 240 grain flat points fast enough to defeat soft body armor.
A levergun in a pistol caliber is perfectly acceptable for a home defense gun. Over the past 30 years, I’ve had several AR’s but got rid of them because I’m not planning on fighting off the Mongel Hoard or Zombies. I settled on a lever-guns, and hand guns, for several important reasons. First, muzzle blast. Do you really want to fire a high powered rifle round in an inclosed space without hearing protection? How’s that going to work with your situational awareness and being able to stay focused? Second is “optics”, in other words, how would the jury look at the weapon you used. Now I know, many will say they don’t care, for whatever, reason and that’s fine. However, the “stigma” and misinformation is out there on AR’s and will be a factor. It has been my experience that the majority of people think a lever gun is a cowboy or hunting rifle. Just my thoughts. Excellent video btw, thank you.
I keep a Winchester M94 .30-30 next to my back door just in case I spot a Coyote in the neighborhood. Lots of little kids running around this small development. I have another from Rossi (M92) in .357. I’d pair that one with either my S&W M19 or my Ruger Blackhawk in .357 as a truck combo.
I have a Henry big boy in 357 and a Rossi ranch hand 44 mag. I would use both to defend myself no problem the ranch hand is so badass as a lever action for self defense 44mag! Both awesome weapons
I am sighting in my Browning 1886 Carbine .45-70 in an upcoming video. I'm headed to Wyoming in a couple of weeks to film a bear hunt - black bears over bait - and my buddy has trail cam pix of a HUGE grizzly which has visited that bait five years running. I plan to smear my wife with peanut butter and honey while we sit in the ground blind ... I can claim self-defense when I have to put it down with the .45-70! I carry a 10mm sidearm now in bear country when I don't pack a rifle (another upcoming video).
@@michaelnasser8697Many companies offer reduced recoil buckshot and slug loads that kick way less but are still absolutely devastatingly potent at close ranges.
Lever guns cost more than AR-15's now....but luckily my first rifle which I still own is a JM 336 30-30. It has a Leupold Red dot mounted on a PIC rail and a Hill People light mount and a Surefire. I would not use it for home defense at my Apartment, but it is great against feral hogs.
Great Video. Thanks for sharing. Can you recommend which 'type' of 357 loads work best in a lever action? For example, for a 357 pistol the recommendation is often made to use 125gr JHP. Thanks
I use my .357 carbine strictly as home defense and use 125gr Hornady XTP bullets (one of the toughest JHP designs). Their muzzle velocity is about 2100fps from the 20 inch barrel, which blows many 125gr JHP designs to tiny fragments. The XTP gives 12+" of penetration up close, more at longer distances. Many 158gr JHPs will penetrate much deeper from a .357 Carbine, not the best choice for home defense where other people can be in the building. For deer hunting, I would give more consideration to a heavier bullet.
I use a winchester 9422 22lr loaded with CCI 22long specialty round @ 710 fps when im staying at my grandfather house in the suburbs because im so so worried about over penetration! ( theres a bagaillion kids running around at any moment) its just not a option..i have other tools that might work as well,but with that 9422 i can put 1/4 inch groups at 35 or 40 yards all day long! And fast! So i figure itll do the trick. I keep a charter arms undercover 38special down loaded as well. Great video!! Thank you sir!! And thank everyone that reads this and voted for trump last night 2024,thank u! We did it!! Georgia Trump USA 😊👍💯👍
Not to mention they are just so much cooler and better looking sorry but they just are! Plus fun as hell to shoot I could shoot my 30-30 all day and it doesn’t bother me a bit it’s a mild light shooting gun even tho it’s a 30-30 (rifle caliber) plus they’d be great if you had to ever shoot from more of a distance for whatever reason.. and obviously can use them for hunting of course, just an all around awesome multi purpose gun! 👍
These days good quality ARs are less expensive than 90% of centerfire lever actions. In 2023 before the bans I saw a Ruger AR-556 for sale used for $425 out the door.
That covered the shooting part, but what about the loading part? Before you can use a lever-action rifle, you first have to load it with several rounds, so it can't be used quickly in a moment of crisis. It's just a club at that point.
It is gone from their web site and don't find another on a Google search. Strange, I found 3 when I bought mine a few years ago. I emailed Wild West Guns to see if they can still make them. You could buy a short section of picatinny rail from Brownells or other supplier and screw mount it to the forend. Not sure I would want to drill holes in my forend, so maybe Wild West will get back to me.
I'm good with aperture sighted lever guns to at least 100 yards, 125+ in good light. If you like a scope on a lever gun (I don't). You can extend those ranges. Were I ever able to afford an African trip, I'd be tempted to get an Aimpoint Micro mounted mid-barrel on my .45-70 and try a buff with the right load!
No, I don't think a .22WMR is a viable self-defense weapon unless that is all you have ... it beats a stick. Use defense-type loads or, probably better yet, a solid lead projectile and aim for the eyes.
For iron sights, I like a peep the best. Choose a fairly large aperture (or drill out a tiny one) and use it as a "ghost ring" where the back circle is mostly a blur. Using a flat-topped front sight, concentrate on the tip of the front sight and you will be both fast and accurate. If you can't get at least a decent focus on the front sight, a 1x optical sight like an Aimpoint or Eotech will help a lot and can be a bit faster yet. I just can't bring myself to mount on optic on a lever gun. Maybe someday.
I'm a fan of leveraction rifles and have a few. They're capable rifles in the right hands. But as much as I like the my leveraction the AR type carbine is a way better choice for home defense, it's not even close. There's those in locations where the AR isn't legally obtained or ownership is prohibited and that's where the levergun is the obvious choice.
Firing a 5.56 indoor without ear protection? Say goodbye to your hearing! A 9mm carbine would be a better solution. And these longer barrels make the 9mm even quieter.
You wake up hearing some crackhead breaking in. You grab your AR chamber a round and go out to the living room. You see the crackhead 10 feet away, aim and pull the trigger. Click! Misfire! The crackhead rushes up to you and guts you like a fish with his bowie knife! Good thing you went with that bargain Basement $500 AR! A levergun or revolver would have let you fire the next round very quickly
I disagree a lever gun can be every bit as effective as a AR plus more powerful Cartridge also depends on the person and what they practice with/ are more comfortable with I definitely don’t feel underfunded with my 336
Lol have you not see what Marlins , Henrys and Winchesters are going for theses days Hell that Browning 92 is going for $1400!! Even Rossi 92’s are right at $800.
AR is cheaper. 5.56 breaks up due to high velocity. Semi-auto does not suffer from stress induced malfunctions. AR has higher capacity. AR is much more configurable for LOP, sights, ergonomics, and lights. Unless you are in a libwit jurisdiction where you do not have the full rights of a US citizen, the lever gun is a sub-optimal choice for a self defense rifle.
I must disagree with your idea that a lever action rifle is reliable for home defense. First of all 100 yard shots are not defense shots. Secondly, a rifle of that caliber is way too powerful for in home defense. If I have to shoot someone, I’d rather not shoot through them, through the wall, and into a family member. I understand the idea of using what you have, and if that’s all you have, so be it. But to promote a lever gun as reliable in an in home defense situation is pushing it. .357 will go through walls coming out of a revolver. What do you think its gonna do coming out of a rifle?
Caliber choice for home defense depends a lot on your home (construction type) and location. Almost anything larger than a .22LR will pass through multiple walls made from 1/2 inch sheetrock. Living in the country means you may have to legitimately defend yourself at longer distances, depending on the threat. What caliber/action do you recommend for home defense?
@@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb Well sir, I guess the first thing we need to establish is what you consider home defense. I see home defense as defending human life within a dwelling, such as a house, mobile home, or apartment. I don’t see where living in the country has anything to do with it. In a home, I can’t fathom the need to make a 100 yard shot. If you do need to make that shot, you are either outside, or inside shooting from a door or window at something that’s outside. That’s not home defense. If a would be intruder and/or attacker is outside, and has not breached your domicile, you are protecting property, not ones self. As I said in my first comment. If that’s the only gun you have, then so be it. Now if you’re talking about a charging bear, or something like that, then by all means. As far as any caliber or action recommendations, I’ll refrain from giving an answer. All I’ll say, is that there are way more viable guns and calibers for home defense, than a .357 lever action hunting rifle.
Lever action rifles are just as effective not to mention just way cooler and better looking people can give anecdotal and argue with all day long but at the end of the day nobody wants to get shot by any gun including a lever action rifle can absolutely do the job just as much as an AR can point blank period also 556 rounds can obviously over penetrate as well any caliber can. And people saying I can’t fathom ever having to shoot at someone from a farther distance.. you never know what situation you could find yourself in
WOW your 1st sentence was "you think you a thousand dollar AR" you obviously haven't purchased a lever action lately!
You're right. New lever guns are well over $1k and some ARs can be had for $500. My point, which maybe didn't come through well, was that a lever gun you already have could be upgraded for a modest price to give excellent service. Thanks for the review and comment. Dick Fairburn
Yeah or an AR-15!!!! Bear creek arsenal guarantees 1.5 MOA for a $500 gun!!! I don’t know of lever guns anywhere near this price point for the quality??? I don’t think there’s any way to make a lever gun cheap relative to modular designs like the AR?
That was my first thought lol the lever gun I want is over a thousand bucks..
Lever gun in .357 is a good choice in this broad subject range !
The last Marlin 1894 I looked at was $1200.00 so that’s spendy for a fine rifle !
This video is maybe not as usefull for people in the US but for people in countrys with much more restrictiv gun laws.
I dont care what anyone says, i just love a good lever action
I like very much, how you put your opinion in survival topics. You don't have to pay a lot of money to survive, you just need a very reliable and durable gun with good sights and reliable ammo. So simple and minimal. I congrats that
Glad it works for you.
i am so sorry for your loss... I have a Henry Big Boy in 357 mag... coupled with a GP100
Leaver actions are awesome utility tools, .....I purchased a Rossi r92 tripple black in 38/357, ..it is smooth and slick out of the box. This model has an all weather finish.....I have used it for the past two seasons in adverse conditions, rain and snow. It's very manuverable in thick brush, ..... Canadian price was $1299 shelf price. I also added a red dot. .....thanks for the video
Where I live AR rifles are prohibited. I have a few lever guns for ranch home defence including a 1873 ( modern 357 Mag), 1886 in 45/70 and a Marlin 336 in 30-30 Win. Feel pretty well equipped for predators of all types. Lover the lever guns! Thanks for the video.
Massachusetts?
That is unfortunate
I would say you are pretty well set up.
I enjoyed your presentation that being said I have a Rossi Lever in .45 colt.
Many of the more common lever guns available today are a side eject rather than the top eject so setting up different sighting options is made somewhat easier as they can be mounted on the top of the receiver.
I have always been a fan of pistol caliber lever actions for self defense/prepper types of use as then you can share a common cartridge between your long gun and side arm.
Makes stocking and carrying ammo a lot simpler.
Yes, both Marlins and Henrys allow top mounting. I prefer the 92 action because it has a shorter lever throw and I can work it easily from the shoulder with my short arms.
You can do that with 9mm, too. Most carbines today take Glock mags. Don't get me wrong, 44 magnum is one hell of a cartridge. But the 9mm much more available today.
@@sasquatchycowboy5585 Do not forget the .357 mag which also is capable of firing .38 specials.
That is my preferred choice over the .44 although I do have both a .44 and .357 handgun and could have gone either direction.
@billwiley7216 Mine, too, actually. I mentioned 44 because its ballistics are superior. But the .357 has, in my opinion, a better balance of recoil and power. I hope to pick up a set of Rugers in .357 in the next year or two. Maybe and 1894, GP 100, and SP 101. But I've also got Glocks and carbines that take Glock mags.
Mad.
In Illinois Law enforcement circles, in earlier years where the sight of an AR in the front rack of the squad car sent shivers through politicians concerned that the police were looking too militarized the Police Training Institute had a suggestion. Use a lever action. They reasoned that the lever action was innocuous, hey, western heroes, the good guys like The Rifleman, John Wayne, and other heroes used the Winchester.
Since many believe the city father's only firearms knowledge came from TV and western movies, they would somehow believe a 30-30 was an ok rifle and not dangerous like that black rifle.
It worked. Many agencies were able to deploy rifles for the first time.
In Jeff Cooper's book "The Art of the Rifle," he discussed and showed images of the .30-30 lever action for general purpose use. I have long recommended a lever gun for patrol and home defense use.
i like Marlin 336 30-30 for everything-great video
I had that same sight as your 47-70, on my 94 searschester in 30-30. I bought in Alaska at the gun show, I replaced the stocks with black plastic (I think ramline). When I returned to the Seattle area after leaving active duty, winchester just came out with the shadow. All the kids thought I was cool for about five minutes. Now I like my r92 in 357, I have a light mount I fabbed out of a couple chinese mounts, to slip between the tube and barrel, the a tlr1. Light 38 hollow points and the racoons die where I find 'em. And the zombies always come out at night, no matter what shape they take.
I thoroughly enjoyed your video. All the comments about the cost of leverguns to AR are valid. However I have a Marlin m1894 357mag that I got at local pawnshop for $430 5 yrs ago. I have owned & shot levers since i was a kid. Only shot an AR a handful of times. Familiarity of your firearm goes a long way brother. Besides I'm not currently at war with anyone, so a lever & S&W m13 suit me just fine. Great content you have my freind.
My point was, you can use what you might already have, as you pointed out. Glad you like my videos.
I installed a Marble's bullseye sight, and a partridge front sight filed to a point, on my Rossi R92 in .357. I call the combination a "ring and spike" setup. Works well, and is lightning fast.
Thanks for another great video, Dick. Your experience and vast knowledge of firearms is greatly welcomed. Love my Rossi R92 in 357, one of my favorite firearms and my go to for PA Whitetail. P.S. your intro rocks!
Thanks for your kind words. What load do you use in your .357 for deer hunting?
@@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb the past three seasons I've been using the same load I carry in my 686 plus, 158gr JHP's. I've been kicking around the idea of using 180gr JHP for the thicker brush areas. What's your favorite load?
I have a Chiappa 1892 short rifle in 357, a Chiappa 1886 rifle in 45/70 and a Uberti 1873 rifle in .44 Magnum. All came with buckhorn sights which persevered with until my eyesight weakened, then fitted Lyman No2 tang sights on each. These bring the front sight into sharp focus and extend the sight radius by about 12 inches for more precision. My pet hates are they're expensive, fragile, in the way and spoil the lines of the rifle. I recently tried a Marbles 'Bullseye' sight and was so impressed with that I bought 3 of them. They fit in the original barrel dovetail (slight filing may be required), give an excellent sight picture, fast target acquisition through the ghost ring, easy to adjust, cheap to buy, very robust an don't spoil the lines of the rifle. I wish I'd known about them before wasting $300 + on Tang sights.
We have a lot in common Dick. I currently have three Rossi R92's - .357 Mag (24" rifle), 44 Mag (16" carbine) and 45 Colt (20" carbine). I use the 45, carbine for CAS - which I've started shooting again. I agree that a lever action is a very viable and formidable combat carbine.
Hopefully, the liberals will never get us restricted to lever guns only.
My pistol caliber lever guns are Browning B92s in .357 and .44 (plus the big brother B86 in .45-70). John M. Browning was a genius.
Lol.. I can build AR's for $534 all day long, my latest Henry was $1150 a yr ago. Great vid tho. Love my leverguns with " manual transmissions" !
I’m still under 40, but I remember when the AR was $1000 and the AK could be bought for $400. Now a decent AR can be bought for $400 and a good AK is $1000 minimum!
Thank you for this. Broadens one's views and presents good alternative options.
I appreciate your videos. They have a lot of value to me. Many years of experience and knowledge given away for free. So far I have agreed with everything you have said except for the love of .45 auto… LOL I’m just teasing. Thank you and God bless you and your family.
Thank you for the kind words.
Just ran across your channel. Love your approach and style. With the way things are going in our country now, old school is proving that it still works!
And for me, wood is so much nicer looking than the tacticool.
I've gone to stainless/synthetic for my hunting rifles, but LOVE my lever guns.
Hey Mr. Fairburn this was a very well done video. I enjoyed it a lot.
Thank you.
I have a Sears model 54 in 30-30 it's my deer rifle and my defensive rifle. Had to get it out last winter when an armed and dangerous criminal running from the sheriff crashed out behind my house in the middle of the night and they couldn't find him. I was prepared, had all the outside lights on and deputies all around the property. They finally caught him about 30 minutes later bedded down in the snow and sagebrush about to freeze to death. Had a pistol on him too.
Sounds like you were well prepared!
I've been using a lever rifle for outdoors and home defense since the TV series the Rifleman starring Chuck Connors was first aired on TV in 1958.I also have several colt AR and M4 to choose from.
It's a $1000 for most lever action rifles now days
try 2-3000 in CANADA OR MORE!
BIG HORN ARMORY ARE 4-7000 IN CANADA
And like 400 bucks for a basic AR-15
My Henry .44 mag agrees with your logic. Pistol caliber cartridges also allow for more compacity..... 10 in the tube. I feel pretty safe at home and mountains.
Canada doesn't have minimum barrel length restrictions on manually operated long guns. I've got a Chiappa 1892 44 Magnum carbine with a 12 inch barrel. Not a Mare's Leg, full length stock, measuring 30 inches overall, and it's rigged with a tang peep. Launches 240 grain flat points fast enough to defeat soft body armor.
Great video! I'm old-fashioned too!!😊😊
A levergun in a pistol caliber is perfectly acceptable for a home defense gun.
Over the past 30 years, I’ve had several AR’s but got rid of them because I’m not planning on fighting off the Mongel Hoard or Zombies.
I settled on a lever-guns, and hand guns, for several important reasons.
First, muzzle blast. Do you really want to fire a high powered rifle round in an inclosed space without hearing protection? How’s that going to work with your situational awareness and being able to stay focused?
Second is “optics”, in other words, how would the jury look at the weapon you used. Now I know, many will say they don’t care, for whatever, reason and that’s fine. However, the “stigma” and misinformation is out there on AR’s and will be a factor. It has been my experience that the majority of people think a lever gun is a cowboy or hunting rifle.
Just my thoughts.
Excellent video btw, thank you.
Good thoughts from you as well.
I keep a Winchester M94 .30-30 next to my back door just in case I spot a Coyote in the neighborhood. Lots of little kids running around this small development. I have another from Rossi (M92) in .357. I’d pair that one with either my S&W M19 or my Ruger Blackhawk in .357 as a truck combo.
Perfect
Had just put a lil tac light/ laser on my .22LR Goat Barn gun...
Big lever gun fan
I have a Henry big boy in 357 and a Rossi ranch hand 44 mag. I would use both to defend myself no problem the ranch hand is so badass as a lever action for self defense 44mag! Both awesome weapons
Good video thank you. I like to carry a 1911 along with a Marlin in 45/70 or 30/30 here in the mountains. Best regards!
I am sighting in my Browning 1886 Carbine .45-70 in an upcoming video. I'm headed to Wyoming in a couple of weeks to film a bear hunt - black bears over bait - and my buddy has trail cam pix of a HUGE grizzly which has visited that bait five years running. I plan to smear my wife with peanut butter and honey while we sit in the ground blind ... I can claim self-defense when I have to put it down with the .45-70! I carry a 10mm sidearm now in bear country when I don't pack a rifle (another upcoming video).
Any gun for home defense is better than no gun.
If you are comfortable with what you have, there you go.
A home defense gun is a good 12 gauge pump
And can be had for under $300
Yes, if you enjoy recoil, lol
@@michaelnasser8697Many companies offer reduced recoil buckshot and slug loads that kick way less but are still absolutely devastatingly potent at close ranges.
Lever actions can do the job ...Especially if your lever action is a Winchester Model 1887/1901 (or clone) 12 GAUGE SHOTGUN...💥
a 357 magnum lever gun is a great home defense option, but they cost just as much as an AR15. And more if you want an American made lever gun.
You have a very good and interesting channel 👍
Thank you.
Lever guns cost more than AR-15's now....but luckily my first rifle which I still own is a JM 336 30-30. It has a Leupold Red dot mounted on a PIC rail and a Hill People light mount and a Surefire. I would not use it for home defense at my Apartment, but it is great against feral hogs.
Great intro music.
Good info thank you.
Great Video. Thanks for sharing. Can you recommend which 'type' of 357 loads work best in a lever action? For example, for a 357 pistol the recommendation is often made to use 125gr JHP. Thanks
I use my .357 carbine strictly as home defense and use 125gr Hornady XTP bullets (one of the toughest JHP designs). Their muzzle velocity is about 2100fps from the 20 inch barrel, which blows many 125gr JHP designs to tiny fragments. The XTP gives 12+" of penetration up close, more at longer distances. Many 158gr JHPs will penetrate much deeper from a .357 Carbine, not the best choice for home defense where other people can be in the building. For deer hunting, I would give more consideration to a heavier bullet.
Rossi R92 + Aimpoint T2 + Supressor and Hornady Leverevolution .44mag ammo.
I use a winchester 9422 22lr loaded with CCI 22long specialty round @ 710 fps when im staying at my grandfather house in the suburbs because im so so worried about over penetration! ( theres a bagaillion kids running around at any moment) its just not a option..i have other tools that might work as well,but with that 9422 i can put 1/4 inch groups at 35 or 40 yards all day long! And fast! So i figure itll do the trick.
I keep a charter arms undercover 38special down loaded as well.
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Pump action is for me.
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A lever action carbine is quite obviously more than enough for home defense. Quite obviously.
It was plenty good enough for Chuck Connors of the rifle man.
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Not to mention they are just so much cooler and better looking sorry but they just are! Plus fun as hell to shoot I could shoot my 30-30 all day and it doesn’t bother me a bit it’s a mild light shooting gun even tho it’s a 30-30 (rifle caliber) plus they’d be great if you had to ever shoot from more of a distance for whatever reason.. and obviously can use them for hunting of course, just an all around awesome multi purpose gun! 👍
These days good quality ARs are less expensive than 90% of centerfire lever actions.
In 2023 before the bans I saw a Ruger AR-556 for sale used for $425 out the door.
That covered the shooting part, but what about the loading part? Before you can use a lever-action rifle, you first have to load it with several rounds, so it can't be used quickly in a moment of crisis. It's just a club at that point.
I don’t see that WWG still has the light mount. Where have you found others? I’ve been looking for one for a 45 Rossi. Great video!
It is gone from their web site and don't find another on a Google search. Strange, I found 3 when I bought mine a few years ago. I emailed Wild West Guns to see if they can still make them. You could buy a short section of picatinny rail from Brownells or other supplier and screw mount it to the forend. Not sure I would want to drill holes in my forend, so maybe Wild West will get back to me.
@@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb Thanks for the assistance! It looks like a nice mount for when critters come visiting remote camps at night!
I’m looking into a lever gun. What range are you shooting at? I appreciate the info.
I'm good with aperture sighted lever guns to at least 100 yards, 125+ in good light. If you like a scope on a lever gun (I don't). You can extend those ranges. Were I ever able to afford an African trip, I'd be tempted to get an Aimpoint Micro mounted mid-barrel on my .45-70 and try a buff with the right load!
I’ve got a lever action 308 1970 savage 99c 22” barrel. I like it but I’m not much of a lever gun guy, I like 30-06 pump better
In your professional opinion do you think that even a 22magnum lever action can be a viable home defense weapon?
No, I don't think a .22WMR is a viable self-defense weapon unless that is all you have ... it beats a stick. Use defense-type loads or, probably better yet, a solid lead projectile and aim for the eyes.
Do peep sights work ok if you require reading glasses? Stick with a scope?
For iron sights, I like a peep the best. Choose a fairly large aperture (or drill out a tiny one) and use it as a "ghost ring" where the back circle is mostly a blur. Using a flat-topped front sight, concentrate on the tip of the front sight and you will be both fast and accurate. If you can't get at least a decent focus on the front sight, a 1x optical sight like an Aimpoint or Eotech will help a lot and can be a bit faster yet. I just can't bring myself to mount on optic on a lever gun. Maybe someday.
Excellent no frills just common sense
Thank you.
I'm a fan of leveraction rifles and have a few. They're capable rifles in the right hands. But as much as I like the my leveraction the AR type carbine is a way better choice for home defense, it's not even close. There's those in locations where the AR isn't legally obtained or ownership is prohibited and that's where the levergun is the obvious choice.
I agree that an AR carbine is probably the best available home defense rifle, see my M4 Home Defense video ... Dick Fairburn
Firing a 5.56 indoor without ear protection? Say goodbye to your hearing! A 9mm carbine would be a better solution. And these longer barrels make the 9mm even quieter.
You wake up hearing some crackhead breaking in. You grab your AR chamber a round and go out to the living room. You see the crackhead 10 feet away, aim and pull the trigger. Click! Misfire! The crackhead rushes up to you and guts you like a fish with his bowie knife! Good thing you went with that bargain Basement $500 AR! A levergun or revolver would have let you fire the next round very quickly
@@Gieszkanne I did shot a 12gauge indoors in 1995 (3 shots). I can still feel the pain!
I disagree a lever gun can be every bit as effective as a AR plus more powerful Cartridge also depends on the person and what they practice with/ are more comfortable with I definitely don’t feel underfunded with my 336
I love all the lever rifles my Marlin j stamp is 45/70 my Winchester is 348 neither is suitable for home defense
The .348 was just about the pinnacle of Winchester lever guns.
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Lol have you not see what Marlins , Henrys and Winchesters are going for theses days Hell that Browning 92 is going for $1400!! Even Rossi 92’s are right at $800.
Check the price of lever guns. I wish I could afford one.
2,000 FPS for a 125ish grain projectile, I’ll take it.
Hell, lever actions are more than 1000 now
Im less accurate with peep style o ring sights , im much more accurate with standard open-sights
If all you have is a lever action rifle, yup.
mares leg for home defense
AR is cheaper.
5.56 breaks up due to high velocity.
Semi-auto does not suffer from stress induced malfunctions.
AR has higher capacity.
AR is much more configurable for LOP, sights, ergonomics, and lights.
Unless you are in a libwit jurisdiction where you do not have the full rights of a US citizen, the lever gun is a sub-optimal choice for a self defense rifle.
Might want to check your 5.56mm against stud/sheetrock walls. Even a 40gr Blitz load will penetrate a couple of walls.
I just built an AR15 for $400
Whatever you do, don't show us too many close ups...!! 😜
I must disagree with your idea that a lever action rifle is reliable for home defense. First of all 100 yard shots are not defense shots. Secondly, a rifle of that caliber is way too powerful for in home defense. If I have to shoot someone, I’d rather not shoot through them, through the wall, and into a family member. I understand the idea of using what you have, and if that’s all you have, so be it. But to promote a lever gun as reliable in an in home defense situation is pushing it. .357 will go through walls coming out of a revolver. What do you think its gonna do coming out of a rifle?
Caliber choice for home defense depends a lot on your home (construction type) and location. Almost anything larger than a .22LR will pass through multiple walls made from 1/2 inch sheetrock. Living in the country means you may have to legitimately defend yourself at longer distances, depending on the threat. What caliber/action do you recommend for home defense?
@@lockloadwithdickfairburn-cr1jb Well sir, I guess the first thing we need to establish is what you consider home defense. I see home defense as defending human life within a dwelling, such as a house, mobile home, or apartment. I don’t see where living in the country has anything to do with it. In a home, I can’t fathom the need to make a 100 yard shot. If you do need to make that shot, you are either outside, or inside shooting from a door or window at something that’s outside. That’s not home defense. If a would be intruder and/or attacker is outside, and has not breached your domicile, you are protecting property, not ones self. As I said in my first comment. If that’s the only gun you have, then so be it. Now if you’re talking about a charging bear, or something like that, then by all means. As far as any caliber or action recommendations, I’ll refrain from giving an answer. All I’ll say, is that there are way more viable guns and calibers for home defense, than a .357 lever action hunting rifle.
@@davidbillings1863 You are exactly right! Even if you shot some 5 feet from your front door. It’s defending property and if against the law.
Depends on where you live
Lever action rifles are just as effective not to mention just way cooler and better looking people can give anecdotal and argue with all day long but at the end of the day nobody wants to get shot by any gun including a lever action rifle can absolutely do the job just as much as an AR can point blank period also 556 rounds can obviously over penetrate as well any caliber can. And people saying I can’t fathom ever having to shoot at someone from a farther distance.. you never know what situation you could find yourself in
Please less talking and more shooting next time. More tests.